fury

[gilded belfry]

Bhr sim less than dht for me

[worldly shard]

cuz no one is applying

[dense elbow]

Noone applying to BRH?

[worldly shard]

23 queue was empty

[dense elbow]

what the, it is a free key

[worldly shard]

had to /w a random dude who was hosting a 22

that ill run my 23

depleted ofc

[dense elbow]

Write "BRH / +23 (free RiO)

[worldly shard]

so now i have a 22 which probably is gonna be the same story as the 23 in lfg

an empty desert

[dense elbow]

Guess it aint primetime today, SoD raids going on or something

[worldly shard]

i got the gorehowl

would be interesting to test it out

in brh

[dense elbow]

gz

[worldly shard]

got mount+gorehowl in the same kill

timereaver

[wanton mirage]

U mf

[dense elbow]

Now you just flaunting your luck

This will hurt your lego drop chance

[past pivot]

Imagine if you had timed it

[worldly shard]

was a depleted 22

30sec overtime

[dense elbow]

Fbm, ppl pulled the drake?

[worldly shard]

ye

[dense elbow]

Gotta love em pugerinos, cant blame em - but ya can be annoyed for sure

[worldly shard]

mounts in M+ are personal loot im guessing?

[dense elbow]

No, you can trade em

[worldly shard]

same drop % as regular mythic

1/100 and etc

[elder vessel]

I didint even know there was a mythic plus mount

[wanton mirage]

You can always get mounts from m+ duns

I got parrot from FH.

[dense elbow]

Some dungs*

[worldly shard]

i got crawg from undr

[elder vessel]

Yes I’m aware of that

[worldly shard]

along with vial

[elder vessel]

I meant in the current set of dungeons

[dense elbow]

You got too much luck man, ya need a ban

Time to call the admins

[past pivot]

Adventure guide

[half cargo]

We had this early in the season

[worldly shard]

lmao

[half cargo]

Such an unreal moment

[worldly shard]

i had 500 attempts on timereaver, got the courser on my 7th clear/m+ dung

and there it came

no need to farm it atleast

anymore

[wanton mirage]

I got one courser and it was midnight. I love that mount.

[elder vessel]

Oh it’s cus the mount is from rise that’s why I didint see it

[worldly shard]

i only wanted invincible / firelands phoenix / timereaver

[elder vessel]

I fucking hate rise

[half cargo]

I miss freehold bird and kings rest raptor

[elder vessel]

I don’t need to go in there anymore tho. 489 mirror 489 gorehowl

[south kayak]

I miss raptor only

Time for KR m+

I got the crawg in m+ last season

Very likely they’re making KR m+ dungeon

Although I don’t really like the dungeon

[modest condor]

speaking of mounts

just looted this one http://puu.sh/JWPPd/1c83d995a9.png

[worldly shard]

need 100 more io for today and itll be +300 since yday

[dense elbow]

That could be impressive, or... not as much

[worldly shard]

2500 -> 2800

small goal

[dense elbow]

Gz

A respectable goal, for sure

[worldly shard]

3k next week

for sure

[dense elbow]

My goal is 2750 to 3k this weekend

[worldly shard]

my trinks are ass

hard to keep up

[naive summit]

bro i feel like parsing is 80% kill time

[dense elbow]

It is 70% the overall package, for sure

[low folio]

just kill it faster then

[worldly shard]

depends

[dense elbow]

And the god-pull, I promise, they will call a wipe

[worldly shard]

if u get trash constantly spawning and boss takes 15min to kill

youll be pumpin

if half the dps are dead

all pad is urs

i got kicked from raid today cuz i accidentally pulled 3sec too early

[dense elbow]

Deserved

fair

[worldly shard]

saw priest typing : OMG, in chat

and then kicked

hopefully next expansions main city will be better than val

[naive summit]

im scared of pulling early

i lose all my rage

since i reck charge

first purple xd https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6vNfRKJkV3XLtwQF#fight=last&view=rankings&playermetric=dps
ofc i got baited by the group leader thinking it was heroic but it was normal instead...

[red dirge]

would a neck craft be any good for us?

[unreal onyx]

yes

or ring

(preferably with flavour pocket)

[warm crag]

neck craft is shite

guaranteed socket in rings is pog frog

[worldly shard]

timed a 22brh wasnt as bad

23 attempt was healing issue it seems lol

[stray breach]

hey dudes, alt fury boy coming in here, i see the macros on icy veins, mostly just using the recklessness one... wondering if anyone has any other dps-based macros like with odyn's fury or avatar.

[worldly shard]

dont macro odyns

avatar u can do spear/trink macro if 1.5min

[stray breach]

yeah i've never had odyn's part of any macro, what about avatar?

[worldly shard]

if ST <5min kill u can also add potion

got 23AD, easy push into 24/25 lol

[stray breach]

messing around with this in game... is there a way to ensure the ground reticle for spear comes up in a macro? when i make that macro it doesn't show the ground circle.

i see icy veins has the @pulsar wing mod but i prefer to directionally cast it myself

[worldly shard]

u mean removing @pulsar wing line?

[stray breach]

yeah removing that line doesn't bring up the ground reticle when i press it in game

[worldly shard]

u can also make it mouseover

[spare otter]

Wait when do we get the spear of bastion change?

[worldly shard]

so u dont need to press

/cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion;

[stray breach]

sigh... i don't want @ anything... i want the reticle on the ground and to press the button.

[worldly shard]

by default /cast Spear of Bastion; will show the reticle

[stray breach]

outside of a macro yes, i'm literally looking at it with avatar macroed and there is no reticle.

it does if i make a macro with only spear of bastion and no avatar in it

looks like i'm gonna have to just not macro with it

yeah it works with macroing trinkets. well thanks for the tip.

now just need to pray to the rng gods for a weapon in this normal raid run 😛

[unreal onyx]

mages definetly need the buffs badly

22 EB

[fading sky]

Tbf frost is gettin more st not aoe🤣

So its going to smoke you on the st fights as well

[mossy nimbus]

Does somebody know, if the superbloom troves reward the legendary quest stuff if u collected them before u got the legendary? In short: can i stockpile them beforehand?

[low folio]

doesnt frost have something that makes glacial spike aoe? i know that got buffed

idk much about frost aside from it didnt need a buff

[indigo quarry]

skill diff

and he got DH debuff

its big

you didnt get monk one

[fading sky]

I mean the dh should be embarresed

[indigo quarry]

every DH that are pulling their weight

are already high rio

[mental hound]

whats the best build if i dont have t30 or t31 for m+? fresh 430 toon

[past pivot]

normal t30 build

[mental hound]

kk ty

[fading sky]

True

Like i felt ppl thought them better than they are.

Then i played with my guildie whos like 3200

And jeeze

[low folio]

isaw a dh complaining about the upcoming nerfs and saying hes always getting outdpsd by classes like fury warrior in 24s. basically called himself out as a reroller

[past pivot]

DHs have a special skill abnout crying

[oblique trail]

because every other spec doesn't

[unreal onyx]

DHs are complaining even when they are fotm

just like hunters

[storm rune]

The sad emo class is good a crying, it's all part of the RP

[unreal onyx]

I don't see too many DKs complaining

or rogues

[low folio]

dks are complaining that blizzard is ignoring frost dk technically

and rogues that complain all exist in pvp

[past pivot]

DHs whine like they think it gives them a buff or something.

[steel shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179738834808881212/1185664502121893898/image.png?ex=65906f1d&is=657dfa1d&hm=2cf31225a4d50d1ea70594755f2b0fc5dfee0af4cb3df2c31a7ddf5ea96abcbf& massive warrior buffs guys

[fading sky]

Haha

[mental hound]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-me-when-looking-stare-are-you-serious-gif-11132620111287096186

[low folio]

you made me think my eyesight was going bad

[indigo quarry]

ahah this screenshot

[steel shard]

all that text for 5% slam buff

dw

[fading sky]

No

Aura 2%

[steel shard]

[fading sky]

Or even bettet

[indigo quarry]

they forgot to buff Fatality

[fading sky]

10% op buff🤣

[indigo quarry]

still hope

[fading sky]

Even less reason to use slam

[past pivot]

Warrior doesn't need a buff. Warrior needs an increased drop chance for the orange leggo

[steel shard]

no?

i have orange logo

its dogshit

[unreal onyx]

then give it to me

[steel shard]

ok come trade

[indigo quarry]

make the on use hasted

[fading sky]

Im waiting for a text saying. We understand, you want a spender

[indigo quarry]

warrior fixed

[past pivot]

Vendor it.

[steel shard]

you cant

[fading sky]

Slamsecute

[steel shard]

ive tried deleting it

games not not let you

does

mby i can jaithys it

[unreal onyx]

feed leggo to jaithys

[left perch]

For science

[mental hound]

is warrior actually bad? im swapping to it for the first time

[steel shard]

in raid no

in m+ yes

[fading sky]

Well fury is fine

Also in m+

Not great but playable and lives just fine

[steel shard]

not great means its not good for m+

where content that scales infinitly it punishes underperforming specs way way harder

than static ones

[fading sky]

I mean compared to arms its great

[unreal onyx]

fury is good for m+ DPS-wise

util is a diff story

[fading sky]

Ye i mean vs dh and rogue its prob a bit harsh... i mean main issue is prob mage next week

Also being cray, and ww gettin big buffs

[runic pine]

I guess?

[zenith brook]

Shout is ok. Health shout too. Has a couple of stuns and Spell Reflect is underrated.

[unreal onyx]

frost glacial spike critted for 4mil on yalnu

my biggest crit was a 1.7mil bb

[zenith brook]

But yeah not great

[unreal onyx]

and I thought the BB crits were big

[steel shard]

you miss the point tho

[runic pine]

You bring a single target stun and an aoe stun on shortish CDs and rally. You could bring fear if needed, and Spell Reflect is bonkers

[steel shard]

m+ punishes mediocre classes WAY WAY harder

than raids

[unreal onyx]

this week in bolstering

[steel shard]

if you wanna do that type of thing

[unreal onyx]

if a mob is bolstered big time and we reflect a spell it casts

is the reflected dmg also amped?

[runic pine]

Well here’s the thing I don’t think warrior is “mediocre” rn

[steel shard]

when its a timed infinite scaling dungeons

you cannot play a mid class

ever

[zenith brook]

Agreed

[steel shard]

if you wanna push

[sinful hawk]

yes

[steel shard]

have you seen

[unreal onyx]

that's huge

[olive wraith]

Spell reflect is so damn good

[steel shard]

havoc DH

[runic pine]

While there’s only like 2 warriors who have pushed top end keys it’s still 2 warriors that have

[olive wraith]

Ever reflect a crushing depths in a key 20 or higher

[steel shard]

season just started dude

[sinful hawk]

feels so goooood

[steel shard]

you will never see a warrior in the highets key in the world

ever

highest

[olive wraith]

That’s fine

We don’t have to be the best

[past pivot]

So by your estimation, only 1-2 classes can be considered "good". All others are "bad".

[runic pine]

Rn on cleared top 100 keys it’s DH, aug, mage and then some balance druids a handful of locks like one hunter and then 2 warriors no other DPS is represented

[zenith brook]

Wrong though there has been Prot 😂

[steel shard]

fair

[zenith brook]

Was easy

[runic pine]

I don’t think you can say warrior is “mediocre” currently

[zenith brook]

Also you never know what future holds

[left perch]

what if we just don’t have this conversation every other day

[steel shard]

for content like m+ it matters ALOT more than raids

[indigo quarry]

even if its the start of the season

[zenith brook]

Havoc is just busted

[left perch]

and yapping time is over

[indigo quarry]

some group are already pushing into the 30-29 range

[unreal onyx]

almost like you can push the highest keys with the best m+ classes

[proud bough]

Yo when yall go into fights like Gnarlroot and Tindral where you have adds up, do you just swap the execute talents for WW talents? DB for TR? Spear for roar? All of the above? I know wowhead's got guides for this, and I've read them -- I'm just wondering if you folks have found that a different option works better for you in those fights, specifically (or if you just rip top builds from wclogs haha)

[runic pine]

Yeah bro it’s the start of the season let’s just ignore the fact that 30s are being done

[steel shard]

defo gonna end at 30s bro

you are right

[runic pine]

I just run the m+ build

[covert blaze]

based

[runic pine]

Errr raid cleave build

[sonic magnet]

if you wanna be a m+ omega push chad go play rogue

[steel shard]

you mean DH

[runic pine]

Nah go play demo lock

[steel shard]

not rogue

[runic pine]

Demo lock is a better DPS than dh

[river reef]

how is arms bad for m+ I thought they are good at padding @eternal sundial

[zenith brook]

Already or next hot fix ?

[runic pine]

Already tbh

No one plays it/can play it well though

[zenith brook]

They pumping for sure

[runic pine]

It’s like a handful of good demo locks

[zenith brook]

Yeah seems like it

I like my warrior

[mental hound]

@babybrainlock

[olive wraith]

How many people realistically push 30+ keys

[runic pine]

A very small amount

[runic pine]

Same fr fr

[left perch]

Based on what

[covert blaze]

dn

[indigo quarry]

should have said DN

[left perch]

quick edit it

[sonic magnet]

the best part is that 99% of people that bitch about warrior not being meta would still be stuck doing 23s instead of 20s even if it did dh damage

[river reef]

#fury message based on that

[left perch]

2.5 and 11 are the same person

this list has bad data

[river reef]

seems kinda biased take but I bite

[indigo quarry]

who is this deleted user ?

he clearly is spreading missinformation

[river reef]

he is telling the truth

[oblique trail]

it's geegee

he's gg now

[river reef]

so many of that list are gg now

[left perch]

how is Gajeel not on this

or Xan or

SILM

this list needs a recount

[oblique trail]

You'll have to get Ronin to come back to life

And remake it then

[river reef]

banezio what are u playing for poe

[oblique trail]

Too bad he has been shot multiple times now on sight

how'd you know I'm playing poe

[river reef]

bc I do

[oblique trail]

also I started toxic rain but it's cringe to map as so I'm going another cringe mapper aka Explosive Arrow

[cosmic flume]

Do you think this is a good dmg breakdown? WM 22 ++

[river reef]

I feel like banezio is a cyclone cast on crit ice nova enjoyer

[oblique trail]

I would be if I was rich

and played for more than 2 weeks and knew how to make currency

[river reef]

toxic rain ballista is an easy to map wdym?

[oblique trail]

Looks about fine

[dense elbow]

Looks about right to me

[oblique trail]

It's cringe when you have half the map monsters go mach 10

and run out of your pods

constantly

[cosmic flume]

Ty bois

[river reef]

kill em with the dot before they can reach u

[oblique trail]

They have to actually be on the pod when it goes off

[river reef]

oh tru

[oblique trail]

I haven't played for 4 days because the game was the most worthless trash that kept crashing every 20 minutes

so now I come back with dookie gear

[river reef]

I swear groundlsam is complete chill to level and early map with

but you gotta go berserker or attack speed Jug

[runic pine]

Can’t wait for next reset

With WW shooting into S tier

[river reef]

[runic pine]

Just you wait

[dense elbow]

2 min of queing, there is hope

[narrow narwhal]

I'll tell the leader to kick you

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

I got accepted to a 22EB just now too

and there are 50 applicants from which like 15 have a higher io than me

[dense elbow]

Ye, but you were 3 hours in que

[unreal onyx]

more like 10min

6 more IO and I am 2.9k

[river reef]

surely you wont get kicked for one of the higher ones

[naive summit]

yo boys so what are the odds we get buffed

[unreal onyx]

I didn't

[naive summit]

lie maybe meatcleaver to 65%?

[unreal onyx]

we timed the key just now

and ++'d it

[river reef]

[unreal onyx]

now I have to find a 21/22/23 rise

[past pivot]

DOubtful. It'll be the axe that gets adjusted first, classes second.

[runic pine]

I need like 12 more io to hit 3k

[unreal onyx]

I might be able to get 3k again with pugs only

[chilly fractal]

If I get 3k IO it means I worked too hard

[runic pine]

I’ve basically only pugged tbh

[unreal onyx]

I didn't care about it at all last season so I just did portals in week 1/2 and chilled

[eternal sundial]

its not shit its just not 2 mil HP

[naive summit]

ima gear up my demo lock just to see how much it shits on warrior in 3 target cleave, 5 target cleave, 8+ cleave

[unreal onyx]

S1 I pugged to 3k aswell

[naive summit]

so awesome having capped aoe

[runic pine]

You say that but like capped aoe isn’t necessarily the problem

[naive summit]

what would u say is

[unreal onyx]

OF and roar is uncapped

[past pivot]

You make it sound like this was just implemented last week

[naive summit]

i started playing war last week haha

[runic pine]

Even with capped aoe I kinda shit on a lot of people….

[naive summit]

so same thing for me

yea but only the bad players

[runic pine]

Fury just has consistently high sustained aoe

[naive summit]

u find a good player on a good class, we get dumpstered

[past pivot]

Oh. You're a newbie. That explains much.

[runic pine]

Yea I definitely get dumpstered doing 270k overall most of the time

[naive summit]

what does that explain?

i mean thats good damage

but dh and bm do like 330 same dungeon

[runic pine]

And even if they do

I beat them on bosses

[naive summit]

bm has huge boss dam for some reason too

class is just broken

[unreal onyx]

that's crazy

aintnoway there are classes that do more dmg than fury

[chilly fractal]

At least we get WF over Havoc in raids

Haha bastards

[naive summit]

i mean im not mad that they are doing more dam than fury

[runic pine]

Although I’ve yet to see one of those classes break 300k in a key that doesn’t have damage amp

[naive summit]

what i think is the biggest prob is the gap is huge

[unreal onyx]

just like there are outliers every season

[naive summit]

yea that sucks

[somber elk]

Next week Theres New godcomb with mage

[naive summit]

and it makes it so that if ur tryina pug keys, good look getting into a 23-24 when ur competing with dh/bm/demo

[unreal onyx]

mage is gonne be busted

[naive summit]

only way i get into a key is if i make the group myself

[unreal onyx]

the warrior experience since SL

[naive summit]

yea its so lame

i think its the capped aoe

but maybe im wrong?

[runic pine]

Let’s test this I’ll log in and start a timer

[chilly fractal]

You act like we’re the only class with capped AoE

[runic pine]

Pretty sure dh is capped

[naive summit]

which other class is hard capped 5 targets

[runic pine]

Outlaw….

[elder vessel]

Which classes

[worldly shard]

2 more portals to go

both doti

[runic pine]

dh/bm

[naive summit]

so then it isnt the target cap because outlaw absolutely pumps

[oblique chasm]

Most other classes have some form of AOE cap that varies.

[naive summit]

most say something like

[elder vessel]

There’s no way you haven’t seen one do more then 300k

[oblique chasm]

Very few abilities aren't some capped.

[past pivot]

And it isn't target cap because we've had it before and pumped on previous seasons

[naive summit]

deals reduced dmg after 5, or 8 targets

[runic pine]

not in my keys without it being a damage amp dungeon

[elder vessel]

Got gapped last night by a dh in brh

350k overall

[runic pine]

brh is a damage amp dungeon

[steel shard]

dh hardcapped?
what ability

[elder vessel]

Oh

I thought you meant aug

As damage amp

[worldly shard]

+20 ToTT

idk if its good

[steel shard]

the only thing that comes to mind for DH is throw glaive

rest is softcapped

[elder vessel]

Speaking of which is there a site that shows all the uncapped aoe abilities

For all specs

[runic pine]

fel barrage is capped at 8

[elder vessel]

Curious how

Now*

[steel shard]

you dont play that

ever

[runic pine]

you did

before the nerf

[steel shard]

not even before

it was a grief talent

[elder vessel]

It was just a padding talent

[runic pine]

eye beam is square root scaled

[unreal onyx]

man

fun fact

I just did the 22 EB with my DF S1 PvP trink

no might for me

[runic pine]

the hunt perhaps

[steel shard]

their cooldown i quess yea

all their main aoe stuff

is just softcapped

blade dance

immo aura

fury main aoe

hardcapped

[runic pine]

and our large CDs aren't

[steel shard]

DH large cd

is immo aura

and death sweep

[runic pine]

time to start this timer and see how long it takes me to pug into a 23/24

[steel shard]

essence break

eye beam

idk all they need to to is make meatcleaver softcapped at 5

[fathom valley]

Me reading patch notes and no fury buffs

[steel shard]

fury is fine

just meatcleaver being hardcapped is what is fucking it

[summer quail]

anyone who was expecting fury buffs is pretty delusional, also delusional if you think fury needs it

[steel shard]

oh not it does not need a damage buff

no

at all

[runic pine]

one might say delulu

[past pivot]

We need moar axes dropped, not a buff.

[fathom valley]

How can you say something so controversial yet so brave

[past pivot]

It's not controversial. Any adjustments likely to go to the axe first then the classes second

[molten relic]

For sure

Hasted on use

Once more data is in

[fathom valley]

Just make recklessness apply to trinkets and weapons again

Since we have to live with bullshit meatcleaver

Or make meatcleaver uncapped ook

[molten relic]

If they softcapped meat cleaver they’d prob have to hard cap cold steel hot blood to 5

[runic pine]

I find it weird that ya'll hate meatcleaver

[steel shard]

yea thats fair

would be abit op

[steel shard]

just do 1 extended big pull

and you will hate it too

[runic pine]

ok but like

what's the difference between meatcleaver and outlaw

[fading sky]

I mean of and roar is uncap

Is not to bad

[molten relic]

Blade flurry 8 softcap yeah?

Or is it 8 hard capped

I don’t play yellow class

[summer quail]

hard capped

[molten relic]

I’m fine w fury tbh

[runic pine]

and I care more about the class being fun to play over not being hard capped

[molten relic]

We not gon be meta bc of the target cap for omega high keys but we ain’t struggling

[unreal onyx]

does aug have a BR

I don't even know

[molten relic]

Tanky as fuck. We lose nothing for our aoe either

Lotta other classes lose a lot for taking aoe

[runic pine]

my biggest complaint is the hardcap on applying to dungeons is ass

[molten relic]

Yup

Why are dungeon ques 5 capped

I just wanna apply to every throne over 20

[runic pine]

it makes no sense considering most leads just afk until they find the one gap in the party they need but you don't know that

[fading sky]

As said i feel like invites are easy to get atm as fury in 20s at least

[fathom valley]

Tbh

I'm complaining

[runic pine]

you tryna get yourself one of these ?

[fathom valley]

But I get into 24 and 25s pretty easy

[molten relic]

Yes

Or a crab

I have a rezans and a gnarlroot branch

[unreal onyx]

not even tertiary

[runic pine]

crab dumb

[molten relic]

Lost every signet brand roll

And lost augury

Roll too

[runic pine]

dis where it's at

[molten relic]

Only one who doesn’t have raid trinkets now

😂

Out of 9 melee dps

[fading sky]

Ah i get fucked on augery every week

Its a rule

[past pivot]

^^

[fading sky]

Is good ill get the axe one day as well

[runic pine]

12 minutes to get into a 23 WCM

not great not terrible

[fading sky]

Ye

[naive summit]

whats ur highest wcm?

[runic pine]

22

[fading sky]

Fury is good. And more important ppl think we are

[naive summit]

yea thats valid

yea perception is everything

[fading sky]

Ye for pug invs

Also we are so tanky dies less. Than most ppl

[naive summit]

yea unbelievably tanky

[runic pine]

I mean do I think it's silly that it takes 10 minutes for an invite to a 23 with this spread? yeah

[fading sky]

Y

[naive summit]

yea its a little disheartening but it thats the game

why im trying so hard to find a guild

[fading sky]

Well

[naive summit]

to run keys with them

[fading sky]

Better than last season

😅

[willow cradle]

Yeah, but thats community perception, nothing to do with how well Warrior actually does

[fathom valley]

I reached 3.2k this season and this early

I might try to aim higher

But I'm afraid

No cheat death or immunity scares me

And we have only one real aoe cc

[naive summit]

nah pre dstance spell reflect

immortal

[fading sky]

Im at likw 2700-2800 my m8s keep pushin me into keys

[naive summit]

victory rush out

chillin

[fading sky]

Ye those things are prob what ends up fackin us

[willow cradle]

I should try for IO but I cant motivate myself, I just do my 8 20s and dont bother past that

[fathom valley]

Spell reflecting a 2M shadowbolt in dht 24 from xavius is chefs kiss

[fading sky]

Though aug gives us a lot as well

[fathom valley]

I mean fury is so tanky

[fading sky]

But at a point

[fathom valley]

But high keys have a lot of one shot situations we simply can't survive reliably

[fading sky]

Esp tyraniccal

We might get facked

[fathom valley]

Like 3rd boss tyr

*fall

In tyr

At a 26 it was pounding me specially in p2

[fading sky]

Well xavious

[fathom valley]

Xavius is luck

You can spell reflect the nightmare bolts

[fading sky]

Most bosses tbh in old dungeons

3rd guy tot

Flame shocl

[fathom valley]

As long as he doesn't focus you twice with the channel it's pretty chill

[fading sky]

We can live but its rough

[fathom valley]

It's spell reflect able but he does not have a cast time so you need to pree cast

[fading sky]

Ye and spell queing

[fathom valley]

Yeah it's pretty garbo

[fading sky]

I hatw that... make it reliable bitch

So its skill based not luck

[molten relic]

We have 9 people that can loot it and we haven’t seen one yet

I seen so many ss of double and quad drops

Thought surely we’d get one

[compact knot]

are people wanting fury buffs still

[fathom valley]

I went to lfr

[compact knot]

lol

[fathom valley]

And 2 monkeys dropped it

Had the gear from the boost

Soooo

Buy boost, get axe

[molten relic]

Ya

Dude was 424 in boost gear

[worldly shard]

a guy listed a +20 doti rise key

[molten relic]

On pally

Got it from lfr kill

When I was on my sham

[worldly shard]

and it was a 21 when i noticed it at the end

cant be mad

extra io

i need to time both doti keys for portal?

[fathom valley]

Rise is so piss easy

[worldly shard]

it was fall

not rise mb

[fathom valley]

Don't know why people think it's hard

[worldly shard]

we wiped on last boss once

wouldve been ++

[modest condor]

huh

[worldly shard]

rise has no trash

[modest condor]

rise is definitely the hardest key of the season

[worldly shard]

10min and ur on last boss

or fall

idk

[modest condor]

im 2chesting 24s but rise i cant even 2chest a 22

[fathom valley]

That's such a bad take. That's like saying "the thinnest whale"

This season is eady

Ryze is not hard

ToT is not hard

[meager gyro]

I have confession to make

[modest condor]

what's your highest key timed?

[fathom valley]

25

[mossy fox]

sounds like troll

[fathom valley]

Yours?

[modest condor]

also 25

[mossy fox]

tot and rise are hard keys to push

[meager gyro]

I've been running intimidating shout

[fathom valley]

Like I get it

Rize and ToT are harder

[molten relic]

Rise has some aids trash

The mortar guy

[fathom valley]

But when considering the whole expansion

They're absolute jokes

[molten relic]

There’s def been worse ones

[fathom valley]

Give me a thousand Rises before another Ruby

Or another Vault

[molten relic]

Yes

Vault and life pools

Aids

[fathom valley]

Last boss is kinda aids granted

[molten relic]

The rise last boss just kinda aids

Someone having to stay back for orb

On second add set

[fathom valley]

Yeah

And the adds in p1

[molten relic]

Then u just kinda have to live till dragons kill it

Bizarro fight

[fathom valley]

In high tyra HURT

[molten relic]

Yup

Mega dungeon trash is usually mega aids tho

[fathom valley]

I loved how the Atal nerf made it even easier

The feeling of spell reflecting the wracking pain

Activates my monkey brain

[molten relic]

Yup

[grand estuary]

https://gyazo.com/7f9deab143934e67ed9c5a6a77494771
https://gyazo.com/7aefd2f8b87dbdf29cb919975c7a55d6
sims telling me to craft this weapon is it a bait? ive had awful luck with weapons from dozens of m+ runs and heroic raid. if i dont get something in vault on tuesday i probably will craft a weapon

[molten relic]

That and throne flame shock guy

Juicy

[thorny bramble]

Is there a good video on fury rotation? My dps felt like poo despite hekili and being 484 ilvl.

[fathom valley]

Always will show greater due to weapon inpactibng so big. But the real sim should be two items vs one weapon

Is two items bigger than one weapon?

[grand estuary]

i messed up and crafted a neck for arms thinking i was gonna main that

so i have 1.5 sparks rn

https://gyazo.com/5adbbf628295c5e024c1d7ce2a95872c

[meager gyro]

Just keep farming m+ 2 hander with other 2 hand users who don't need it and just want vault slot

[dense elbow]

Not if you are bigbrain, and push a 21 instead of 28

Hoy, can you EU lads stop filling Rise keys with yer bodies? I am trying to get some score here Rude!

[fathom valley]

No

[dense elbow]

but my spot...

[unreal onyx]

we waited literally 20min for a boomie bc of the group lead

and this is what we got

[fathom valley]

Do I prefer pushing another key? Yes, but I have the controversial opinion that they're not as hard as the keybrickers we had in previous seasons

[unreal onyx]

22 fall

[dense elbow]

Innervate carried

[worldly shard]

deserved

[elder vessel]

22 is too low for boom

[worldly shard]

druids are all dogshit

[elder vessel]

It’s not there fault really

[worldly shard]

blacklist orange

[fathom valley]

Ofc the moment I time a 26 tot or rise I'm gonna reroll those shit keys always

[unreal onyx]

boomie didn't die in iridikron

and did 27mil dmg

I did 40mil

[worldly shard]

only need a 20 rise key for all 8 portals

[exotic rover]

Is there anybody willing to help me improve dps?

[worldly shard]

7*

[timid brook]

same

[dense elbow]

Depends on what ye need, bebe

[timid brook]

currently fury with 4 piece tier , been using slam / rampage / bloodthirst and odyns fury as often as possible and throwing in WW / execute when it comes up

just havent been able to be top 1 or 2 in anything about mythic +16

[unreal onyx]

in m+ or raid?

[timid brook]

m+

[unreal onyx]

do you follow wowheads rotation guide?

[timid brook]

no i dont

[past pivot]

Start there

[tame gorge]

Leggo is FINISHED AFTER 4 DAYS

[dense elbow]

Gz! Big! Now go and CRUSH the meters!

[tame gorge]

Now, can someone help me incorporate it into my rotation, and maybe help me NOT suck? Having shit parses with this is going to be embarrassing

[unreal onyx]

just use it when you are not in CDs

[young swan]

use it outside of cd's

[runic pine]

pulling 3-4 mobs at a time really kills the overall >.>

oh well, we did it at least

[dense elbow]

200k on 4T pulls, not bad, not bad

[runic pine]

pulling small in WCM kills me inside

[dense elbow]

Bolstering and witches tho

cant blame em

[unreal onyx]

gratz

[runic pine]

yeah I mean it was smooth

[unreal onyx]

I got 2911 just now

[runic pine]

so can't really complain too much

azralon gamers actually hitting kicks too

[exotic rover]

i end around 180K dps overall end dungeon, almost always bottom with about 50k dps difference of my team

[dense elbow]

We will need more info than that, bebe. Ya got logs/vods? Throw em into #449510248579858432 and someone will take a look

As context matters

[young swan]

180k just sounds like massive cd misuse or dying a lot

[dense elbow]

Or just low gear

[young swan]

pretty hard to get s2 numbers in s3

[dense elbow]

Well, we just had a madlad with 3k score do 200k :v

[young swan]

score means nothing

[runic pine]

go from this to 201k

[dense elbow]

[unreal onyx]

it means everything to me

[runic pine]

[dense elbow]

Xan has not been his old self, since arms hit the bucket

bring back arms, save Xan

[young swan]

i dont even like arms

[dense elbow]

Xan bad, you bad. Arms good, you good.

[young swan]

score has never meant anything to me

[runic pine]

lots of 2-3 target pulls ruins the overall 😦

[mossy fox]

what happened to the arms propagandist

[young swan]

he died after week 1

[runic pine]

jugg arms owns in M+

even if it doesn't actually, it owns in my heart

[dense elbow]

💕 all that matters

[mossy fox]

understandable

[runic pine]

is it time to watch Crit do a WCM?

[dense elbow]

29 or?

[mossy fox]

nah already failed a 29 earlier

trying to get out of wcm prison

[runic pine]

Crit's mog is fresh

[timid brook]

im doing what its saying , slam rampage bloodthirst and odyns fury , execute and ww when avaliable and it still low for item level 466

[young swan]

would look better with the orange stick

[grand estuary]

You might be using slam too much

[runic pine]

all of ours would 😦

[unreal onyx]

surlely next week

[runic pine]

surely tomorrow

[gusty cloak]

if i did fryakk lfr, do i get another shot at lego doing heroic?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[young swan]

yes

[unreal onyx]

but the odds won't be better

[white relic]

If i kill boss on hc first i have 0% chance on normal and lfr? But if i first do lfr/normal and then hc i have 3 chances but with lower % overall?

[plush flower]

Anyone get the leggo yet

[meager void]

yeah.

thats where common sense plays the trick of making you think its better to have the three chances

[unreal onyx]

killing the boss on the highest diff is the best thing you can do

[meager void]

mathematically, its the same either way

but doing all three in orders is just more work

[runic pine]

yesn't?

don't we actually not know how BLP and the whole system works?

[unreal onyx]

you are better off hitting a 10% than 10 1%er tho

[white relic]

But the thrill when the boss is at 0.1% ;)

[young swan]

yes

[red yew]

No

Nobody has it

[white relic]

Only our tank got it first week ;)

[plush flower]

:0

[meager void]

it's a common sense trick and rather annoying to figure out tbh.
Here's some math nerds discussing about it: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/49296/does-the-likelihood-of-an-event-increase-with-the-number-of-times-it-does-not-oc

however, even if proper math points towards just doing heroic. I am, nonetheless, going thru LFR, Normal and then HC. At least till my patience allows.

[cloud shale]

lest say im on 20% hp volcoross, have 5 stacks ashen juggernout and recklessness going on. should i go BB->Exec->Rampge->BB or BB->Rampage->BB

[shy void]

i got leg , and I was doing only fyrakk HC , 4 kills only

[restive peak]

Maintain AJ

[left perch]

Seeing how we are the monkeys who have been left in this prison with typewriters, this argument seems dumb. Yes, we already have written and produced all texts. There’s nothing else to do here.

[cloud shale]

do i just mainain or press exec every cd?

[restive peak]

Maintain if in CDs where Ramp>BB is possible, it will be Ramp>BB>Exec>BT>Ramp>BB outside CDs naturally

So during CDs where Ramp>BB is repetitive, you'd just weave an exec in to maintain AJ

[cloud shale]

yes, im thinking about situation where bb-ram-bb-ram is possible

[lusty gust]

Whats a good average overall DPS in m+ currently in one of the dungeons with decent mob density

[dense elbow]

Chose one, and I will tell you my xp

[past pivot]

Can you be more vague?

[dense elbow]

The short answer is: around 240k, around 300+k in m+ with dam amps

As a sort of "avg"

[restive peak]

So maintain AJ during that short window, which is likely only 1-2 execs used for maintenance

[meager void]

somewhere between 0 and ∞

[cloud shale]

what about a situation where the boss will die in recklessness duration

bb-ram-bb is more dmg correct?

[dense elbow]

If boss gonna die soon, just push BB

[red yew]

Are these stats good for warrior fury?

[dense elbow]

huehuehue

[restive peak]

Sure on the off chance, but let's say you misjudge and 3 people die and now the boss lives 10-12s longer; you just lost DPS

[past pivot]

Stats mean nothing on their own. Are you simming? Are you following the recommendations?

[dense elbow]

Well, one look at his stats tells me all I need to know

[young swan]

yeah bis

[dense elbow]

It is very basic stuff

[past pivot]

Also, at that low ilvl. You should care more about getting gear than stats anyway

[cloud shale]

ty for your help, i wanted to find the missing 1 on nymue but couldnt today

[red yew]

Thank you so much for good advice

[worldly shard]

last portal 🙂

[cloud shale]

i assumed bb-ramp-bb is more dmg but still didnt happen

[dense elbow]

Go get em tiger!

[lusty gust]

Lol thanks for a useful answer and pretty much what I was expecting. Sorry to everyone else for not asking for an average of each individual dungeons overall + comp lol

[worldly shard]

22depleto is +19 score?

[unreal onyx]

depends how far over

at some point you get 0

[smoky prawn]

they mega nerfed score after +20 depletes

[worldly shard]

30sec 0overtime

30sec overtime*

[past pivot]

lots depends on key, tye or fort? 10 or 20? Just asking a general question like doesn't really give much of an answer. I mean you can look at raider.io and see that kinda of data

[mossy fox]

ye

[dense elbow]

Critcake confirmed stats good. They are now the golden standard.

Pin it.

also put it into every faq section

[indigo quarry]

new meta stats

[lusty gust]

That's why I said average and I got decent answer all good. Wasn't looking for a thesis of a reply from anyone just a general ball park that is very doable.

[past pivot]

Thesis? lol could just have guessed at a number and been in the ballpark lol

[dense elbow]

Then, why didn't you?

[restive peak]

Don't you think 5% crit, 5%haste, 25% mastery and 100% versa is the play? CMON BOIS LETS TRY IT

[jolly mist]

yes

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/hue-gif-4928285

[red yew]

100% vers = halfway to immortality

[cosmic adder]

look at me. I'm the tank now.

[past pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-phillips-boat-hijack-im-the-captain-now-barkhad-look-at-me-gif-4242563

[unreal onyx]

just did a 22 fall with a boomie and hunter

and they kept dying to random abilities

while I was just straight chilling

but it also felt like they do not even have any defensives

[restive peak]

We ball

[inner zinc]

Im loving all this vers. I got lucky and i got 15% avoidance early. It feels like aoe just tickles me lol

[noble elm]

Every class got defensives

People just like to get hit by things

Every time I tell a boomy to shift bear they’re like “muh dps” then they die. Where’s your dps now clown

[unreal onyx]

DPS was never there anyway

[thorny cove]

pve noob here, why is wafting better than sophic in pve? is strength worse than haste?

[compact knot]

annhilator

i honestly dont know why but id guess having annhilator means more autos means more damage more often

[thorny cove]

ah

makes sense ig

[compact knot]

is this good dps againt proto dragonfly???????? pls help

[vague sand]

Prob because we stack vers/mastery the most. Having wafting and haste from talents just makes everything feel good

[thorny cove]

why use primary stat gem then? why not haste or mastery gem

is there some stat break point or something

[unreal onyx]

MS + secondary stat is more stats than a regular R3 secondary gem

[compact knot]

^

[unreal onyx]

75MS + 66 secondary comapred to 70+33

[compact knot]

75+66 > 70+33

main stat is also the stat that gives you the most dps

[arctic tinsel]

Why do i feel that casting the leggo axe is a dps loss

[compact knot]

and usually would me

be*

[compact knot]

depends on when u cast it

[arctic tinsel]

I use too many globals and the aoe is kinda meh in m+

[unreal onyx]

if you cast it during CDs it's not good

you wanna use it when you have nothing up

[thorny cove]

that's why I was so confused by the lack of sophic devotion but w/e I guess 🤣

[arctic tinsel]

I see so not on the biggest pull on entrance and blood like i did

😂😂

[compact knot]

wafting devotion gives more stats then sophic deo

i think wafting is like 1.2k and sophic is 850 or something

[arctic tinsel]

Anyone knows if the leggo axe gets buffed with smolderon orbs? Planning to kill tonight

[dense elbow]

Check logs to be sure, but quite sure the answer is yes

[compact knot]

it should

which actually gives it aton of value on smolderon

[dense elbow]

Affects trinkys, but could be some weird interaction with the hardcap on the dam

[arctic tinsel]

So i guess should save it on opening then use between phases

One more charge always good xD

[past pivot]

Also why Great Cerulean Sea is better for many than main stat food

[plush ice]

for many people the spread between M/v and main stat is shrinking

and if it shrinks enough, then more stats overall becomes worth more then a little less main stat

[plucky ice]

how does it matter if axe get buffed or not, everything gets buffed so the effect is the same, you lose a lot standing for 3s

[compact knot]

you have down time there

[hasty path]

bolstering wcm 😴

[dense elbow]

Well, if they doubled the CD and doubled the dam, you would use it

[compact knot]

it gains alot of value from the orbs because you have downtime in the first 2 sets with the buffs, so you can cast the onuse with the orb buff then burst for more value

then you dont have to worry about it for 2 more mins

[plucky ice]

yea sure if downtime

[compact knot]

which you will on smolderon

[thorny cove]

what key level should I try to apply for if I have no score and 456 ilvl? like 8-9s?

[past pivot]

If you have friends or guildies, try pushing those to at least 10+

[thorny cove]

I have no pve friends

[worldly shard]

portals done

+294io for today

[past pivot]

grats

[thorny cove]

I got something done today altho not related to mythic+ xd

got all 13 elite sets from pvp

[worldly shard]

elite or gladiator?

[thorny cove]

I mean the 1800 sets

on all 13 classes

[worldly shard]

shit is time consuming

oh u mean not in 1day

lol

[thorny cove]

ya

took me about a month or however long the season has been going on for

[worldly shard]

gonna run 21ToTT now before sleep

maybe blizzard gods will bless me with trink

[past pivot]

both of them

[desert cloud]

are u EU ?

[wooden lagoon]

That's some work bro

[thorny cove]

NA

[desert cloud]

gj

[thorny cove]

@wooden lagoon ty

think I carried my weight in this 9 key? https://i.imgur.com/pHjERlJ.png 🤣

[final birch]

that's 13 more than I ever had

soloq is too long and nobody ever applies to my partner lfg

tried in s1, got to 1.6k and then got bored of 45 min soloq

[thorny cove]

@final birch solo queue is instant for healers but you'll wanna punch your monitor 🤣

[final birch]

fucked my rating badly at the start because that's literally how I learned the spec and then couldn't get shit even after 5-1 scores

yeah

tanks r also pretty fast

like few-ish mins?

[thorny cove]

tank is the same as dps queue

unless you're prot pally which counts as a healer for some reason

and you can only queue into another prot pally

[final birch]

Every tank counts as healer no?

My prot war counted as one

[thorny cove]

nope

every tank except prot pally is counted as dps

I usually try to go for most fomo seasonal rewards but this season is brutal

ksm mount which is not too bad, 20 portals, doti undying transmog, aotc dragon thingy, and even tho I primarily pvp I need to raid to get the stupid orange axe

[unreal onyx]

I still gotta do the doti no-death achiev

[thorny cove]

ya my friend just did it and apparently it gives you all 4 sets for just doing it once

sucks as someone who did chosen 4 times in legion 🤣

[mental hound]

are afenars weakauras updated for 10.2?

[restive peak]

I imagine so, feel like it would’ve been a memorable time in here with people asking for fixes if he didn’t update em

[keen kindle]

same fam

at 480 it's gotta be a joke

[somber moth]

asking the wrong discord, ask them

[runic pine]

I thought you can’t get the mythic set from ToV anymore?

[thorny cove]

@runic pine ya you can't get it anymore hence the "in legion" part

[keen kindle]

It'd be easier to set up tbh

[thorny cove]

@keen kindle ya true I just hate pveing nowadays 🤣

[keen kindle]

lol true opposites

[normal yoke]

We did it

[thorny cove]

grats

[keen kindle]

FUCKING GAMER

LET'S GO MY GY

[thorny cove]

I thought it was ilvl 500? only 496?

[normal yoke]

This is just the initial drop

[thorny cove]

ah

[keen kindle]

No both are 496

It's fuckin weird

[thorny cove]

maybe the datamined version was 500 but they changed it or something

[keen kindle]

It was

[thorny cove]

https://i.imgur.com/wV8al7O.png

[keen kindle]

Real?

[thorny cove]

weird when I copy the wowhead in game link it shows 500

[keen kindle]

Ahhh

Yeah it's weird af

[thorny cove]

even tho on the page itself it says 496

[keen kindle]

Idk why it isn't just 500

496 is such a weird fuckin number

[thorny cove]

I mean as a pvper I wish it was 0 ilvl so I didn't have to farm it to be on an even playing field 🤣

[winged heart]

whats the BiS off hand for SMF? Obviously the Fyrakk 1h for MH

Is it waycrest Servant Splitter?

[buoyant salmon]

any one hander with special effects

assuming equal stats

if none exist just sim

[mild cove]

How much haste should i be sitting at siming myself in current gear is the highest but im sitting at 23% haste. seem low

[glad tangle]

At least 350

[cerulean flint]

our tier set empowers our 3 BTs/BBs after OF
in opening do i have to weave 3 BB after OF before Avatar?
so it'll look like this: reck-charge-ramp-of-roar-bb-ramp-bb-ramp-bb-avatar-ramp-bb-ramp-bb-ramp-bb?

[olive wraith]

The tier stacks to 6

So you don’t have to use it or lose it

[covert blaze]

same as very rare loot from highest ilvl bosses

[cerulean flint]

oh, this explain everything

thanks!

[warm crag]

if sims tell you thats your best result why should you deviate from it

[mild cove]

just seems pretty low on haste

im rocking what it said was better was just wondering

[warm crag]

if you want more haste go for more haste but robot man said that gearset does the most damage

[hard widget]

Check what runes your sim is using

If ur simming with howling runes then that explains a lot, but besides that haste doesnt gain THAT much value anymore since most ur burst is quite isolated. So the robot tells u to boost the dmg of that small window by as much as possible

[sullen dove]

big cryyyyp

[mild cove]

sup bby

[red dirge]

If a pvper gets the leggo before me im punching something

[south thunder]

punch away

[autumn mica]

[autumn mica]

Robot is our savior

[restive peak]

Man pugs been crushin this week, that's like my 4th pugged 27 timed

Who knew bolster/fort makes people play safer and they do better, I'm SHOCKED

Also Mad and Jeventes, I'm joinin yo asses at streamin end of this week >: ) but seriously pls help

xD

[gilded pawn]

yo

27 pug timed

you are kinda nuts

[storm rune]

I just parsed a 50 on H Fyrakk after assuming we were gonna wipe and only casting Bloodthirst until P3, AMA

[olive wraith]

Why wouldn’t you jump off? Or continue the normal rotation until inevitable death

[keen kindle]

are you okay?

[storm rune]

Oh it was like the third time the auggie face pulled the boss, I was so fucking done lmao

But also, how tf did I still parse blue

[restive peak]

Pistachios over here brotherrrrrr

I got title like 90% puggin last season, it just takes...awhile lol

[sullen tendon]

am i supposed to have two best friends at the same time

[cosmic adder]

as long as neither of them find out you're good

[left perch]

[latent hedge]

good morning warriors, does anyone know how to install wago plater mods please ? i'm looking to install the name shortener for plater but can't find where to put the code text from wago

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loot specialization for fury - should it be set to fury or arms? read somewhere arms to get more two-handed?

[chilly fractal]

Arms to get less 1 handers

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