fury

[spare otter]

Delete all classes?

[clever path]

pretty much

[slim coral]

I thought I got banned

Was so scared lmao

Still no warrior tuning

[scarlet swift]

Sick buffs yo, so good it crashed discord

[unreal onyx]

Fury so powerful now discord can’t handle it

[uneven plaza]

Sick warr buffs, sick hunter nerfs

imagine.

[rocky wharf]

monk revolution? /tinfoil

[undone shadow]

Anyone running gholak?

[clever path]

whoa is discord down

[inland flame]

Partial server outages

[modest condor]

discord is dying everybody panic!!!

[shell jackal]

!!!! oh no!

[shell jackal]

do we even need buffing? i feel like we're kinda gigablasting atm

as classes go

[urban tapir]

back to ventrilo pog

[rocky wharf]

nah, we gucci. and then when u get the legendary!?!

[plucky ice]

[modest condor]

fury is fine in raid, we look weak in m+ because the outliers are just that far ahead

[shell jackal]

yeah, still fine though right? poppin off 1.2m aoe burst at peak, consistent 750-800k

and i got might earlier so now i can actually pump

[modest condor]

well

[elder vessel]

Fury is fine

[restive peak]

I think our stock drops from this tbh

[elder vessel]

Arms however is not fine

[restive peak]

Still good, but we drop a tier

[elder vessel]

Are the dh nerfs significant ?

[rocky wharf]

thank goodness this a fury channel hehe

[restive peak]

I don’t think they’re significant enough to make them drop considerably

[hard widget]

1% st 4% aoe apparently

[restive peak]

It’s a nerf though for sure

Frost mage is now S tier required for M+

[slim coral]

I’m referring to m+

[shell jackal]

yeah i think we're gigablasting in m+ too

[slim coral]

I have full 25s timed and other classes are just better so it’s impossible to get accepted into pugs

[clever path]

were in a good spot, just not meta

[slim coral]

And Aug has a perma spot to its already down to 2

[rocky wharf]

ye, we middle pack. m+ and raiding

[frozen berry]

Fury is near bottom in ST i nraid...all the other classes around us got buffed today, meanwhile nada for warriors...odd

[glad plover]

Nothing under warlocks in patch notes is starting to be a meme

[clear palm]

we arent near bottom in ST

we are middle

[shell jackal]

^

[clear palm]

def decent

[inland flame]

We're def mid, not bottom

[shell jackal]

fury warriors in my guild are topping meters most fights

[clear palm]

i am also doing well in raids

i obv wont beat rogues dhs

[slim coral]

Also arms itself is not in the best spot

[clever path]

just means we wont get nerfed, only buffed 😄

[clear palm]

bm but

its fine

[tender sky]

surprised there wasn't m+ targeted tuning

[clear palm]

arms on other hand tho

is garbage

in raid

[rocky wharf]

ohhh wonder what happens after? we been untouched for so long, no homo

[clear palm]

but at least arms is good in m+

[slim coral]

Then the players of your guild aren’t that good

[clear palm]

uncapped aoe but kinda squishy

[slim coral]

Reeves the best warrior couldn’t even be top of the meters

[clear palm]

fury is just better for highest keys

fury is not top in raid

its middle of the pack

[slim coral]

And with every other class getting constant buffs we will fall further behind

[glad plover]

Both arms and fury need to be looked at, Fury out od CD damage is rly bad and that in turn lowers our cleave potential in M+, Arms is just weak now.

[tender sky]

representation of high keys says warrior is trash cannot for dps and tank

[clear palm]

fury tier set is so garbage who ever designed that tier set

needs to be fired

[glad plover]

Tier set is fine, I simply do not understand change to move Reckless Abandon from 2 to 1 charge, such a out of touch change.

[rocky wharf]

we are fine. we dont need to be the best. relax. lol. + we have shockwave, and tbolt

[summer quail]

?? the change is great

[clear palm]

wtf are u saying bro

how is tier set fine

[rocky wharf]

we could use a execute buff though

[clear palm]

u have 2 buttons

[meager gyro]

we look better in raid than we actually are b/c of our kit being so good at handling cleave with ST focus and padding some

[clear palm]

and when u run out of rotation

u have gaps

where u feel like u have no fuel

how is that great

[inland flame]

just throw in a sunder armor to fill your globals

[clear palm]

ahhahaha

[glad plover]

It seriously lowers our cleave potential, something fury was a king of.

[frosty orchid]

😄

[snow edge]

If you run out of globals consistently, you're just not handling the rotation as you should be; should be super infrequent

And the change was good from 2 to 1 charge

[meager gyro]

Larodar heroic iwth pugs is a joke just like council. I should just start tanking heroic pugs, tanks are worse than warrior brain for those two fights, it's maddening

[clear palm]

yes but still feels bad

[inland flame]

New tier and build took some getting used to but I don't hate it.

[clear palm]

even if u do it correctly

u will still run out

feels awful

fury as identity is to perma pump

[glad plover]

In general higher haste, and pressing BT before you hit rampage will help you with gaps, still can happen from time tho

[clear palm]

perma have cds

[snow edge]

It's really not that bad; enjoyment of a spec is subjective, but even so you're overexaggerating

[meager gyro]

yeah no matter how well you play it, there's still a time where you hit BT and have to wait one GCD to hit BT again

[clear palm]

i mean i dont think i am

it feels bad

[glad plover]

Why was it good? Honestly I do not understand?

[meager gyro]

to be fair, SMF feels much better btw Acee, if you have the chance farm some heroic weapons to try it out

[clever path]

have u played 10.0

?

or 9.2

[glad plover]

Yes I did, however annihilator was not build back then

[clever path]

so

pressing crushing blow on 130 rage

was fun?

cause u had 2 you would always overlap

[clear palm]

ye ik i have it but still eh obv preference

[clever path]

not overlap but forgot the word

[snow edge]

overcap

same same

[clever path]

ye that

[clear palm]

def wasnt fun overcapping

[glad plover]

You still have to press BB when you cap your rage because it has higher priority compared to rampage so change from 1 to 2 changed literally nothing but lower the frequency of that happening

[clever path]

yes but imagine

pressing it twice

old RA was so much worse

[leaden spoke]

it was more fun than pressing slam IN FURY

[clever path]

there is nothing wrong with current fury except that we do nothing outside of cds

[clear palm]

well i do agree it was more fun

[clever path]

and in low keys you are frequently out of cds

[clear palm]

than pressing slam

[rocky wharf]

we are a high apm class. a l w a y s b e p r e s s i n g

[clear palm]

this tier set is just not ufn

if u find this fun idk ur just

[snow edge]

You are no where near to overcapping as much as you were back then, not even close now

[meager gyro]

my US alt, still has a veteran main hand ... I'm very tempted to just go craft a spark 1 hander lol can't be bothered to farm for m+ weapons on a h fyrakk leggo chance toon

[glad plover]

Problem with fury is that Rampage, our main ability is seriously undertuned, and it clearly shows when you do not have your CDs up, our cleave damage is tragically bad.

[clever path]

damage to bosses =/= st

if there is any aoe we take ww with roar

that lowers our boss damage

[snow edge]

The playstyle is different this tier, it's not the end of the world; we're in a much better place than some other specs

[clear palm]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/35#

[blissful mountain]

i just found it funny having rampage be top damage then bloodthrist be, barely hit bloodthrist last raid

[clear palm]

@frozen berry

[clever path]

anni is just as fast as last tier

its just that the only impactful button is bb

[snow edge]

At the end of the day you can't satisfy everyone, so whatever build they picked people would complain

[clever path]

last patch there were no impactful buttons

[glad plover]

Still happens and now we have in my opinion even worse problem where from time to time you have nothing to press even if you play good and line your CDs well. Trust me I will pick overcap over pause in rotation anytime. Its fury after all.

[clever path]

you just presses a bunch of them and they did damage

[clear palm]

@frozen berry ur looking at first week

[inland flame]

If you look at mythic Volc damage Fury is actually pretty high

[clever path]

volc is skewed

kill timer is 🤏

[clear palm]

hes looking at first week

xd

https://prnt.sc/wV1hqWrJjHEU

this is over 2weeks

[clever path]

it was boss damage

not damage in general

[clear palm]

well ye

but

[leaden spoke]

he linked dmg to bosses we low af

[blissful mountain]

all i know is that with cd's fury is mega, but without its meh

at least in imo

[clever path]

thats just RA

it was like that in 10.0

and in 9.2

[hard widget]

Fury ST isnt bad in raid, we're just falling a bit behind in m+

[frozen berry]

I linked latest one of Wowhead /shrug

[hard widget]

The reason our ST looks worse, is because there are multiple "cleave" fights bringing our avarage down a lot

[clever path]

see how misleading this is

[clear palm]

well ye but just like jeventes said tho

[clever path]

this indicates fury has weaker st

[rocky wharf]

thats actually a good curve. no?

[clever path]

which it doesnt

whenever there is aoe on a fight fury goes ww with roar which impacts boss damage

arms goes full st on every single fight

since u cant talent into aoe as arms and st

[hard widget]

If people were to not pad like crazy on gnarlroot, igera and larodar our st avg would be way higher. It's just the class design to allow for quick access to AOE leaving our st lower

[clever path]

^

[clear palm]

y

[clear palm]

idk if ur doing heroic raid few mythic bosses ur fine either way

unless ur in top of the 0.1%

ur chillin

in raid

[rocky wharf]

well back in my day. guldan trinket was make it or break it for dps warr...

[clear palm]

are u a fan of new fury tier set

and how build worked out

[glad plover]

Well we are not "mega" other classes still do larger damage, we are indeed very weak without our CDs.

[hard widget]

I'm not

[clear palm]

ye i tought am crazy

but i rly dislike it

[clever path]

you are def not

[hard widget]

I dislike the new tierset, but the design of it damage wise is fine

[clear palm]

ye dmg is fine

but its not fun

[clever path]

i mean

RA just isnt fun to play

[frozen berry]

I like using Odyn's Fury again I will admit.

[clever path]

compared to am

ra is especially annoying in m+

especially cause 4p is rng

[hard widget]

The issue is, i like M+ a lot, and AM just plays very awkwardly in m+ in my opinion since you don't do anything outside of cd's

[clear palm]

fury in m+ is so annoying

because ur capped

arms isj ust more fun

but u lack single target

for high keys

sadly

[hard widget]

No

[clear palm]

and ur not as tanky

[rocky wharf]

all i can say is people who never played warr, still think execute is hard hitting. is it? lol my guild be like EXECUTE during prog lol

[hard widget]

Arms st is fine in keys, its survivability being a bigger issue

[rain heart]

Arms has survivability issues?

[clear palm]

yes

[clever path]

arms has good execute just undertuned

[clear palm]

fury much tankier

[rain heart]

I am up to 22s and haven't had problems yet

[blissful mountain]

yeah i feel that on hearing execute LOL

[scarlet swift]

arms needs to double the stats of the 1 weapon used

[clever path]

hunters live with no externals at that key level

[hard widget]

With all due respect, in 22's you wont notice it. I'm talking towards 27's etc

[clever path]

its more like 26s 27s

[clear palm]

ye

[junior gale]

execute itself is weak but ur also getting good execute dmg with BT talent

[rain heart]

ah okay, that makes sense then

[glad plover]

Execute, Odyns Fury and Bladestrom became nostalgia baits

[clever path]

fury with 1mil hp perma 10% dr enraged regen iv etc

[snow edge]

Yeh BT execute go pewpew

[clever path]

is just a lot tankier

[clear palm]

i was big fan of skull build for arms

[clever path]

too bad

[clear palm]

felt nice

[tropic cobalt]

idk i like odyns fury

[uneven plaza]

Def stance good.

[clever path]

i mean

the sks chagne is just proof

[junior gale]

its a sad day when fury has similiar or better execute phase dmg than arms

[tropic cobalt]

that’s like the only thing i like about this patch

[clever path]

no one plays arms at blizzard

[rain heart]

I had found myself prefering die by the sword as a CD over Enraged.

[glad plover]

I like the ability I do not like that it does damage of one DH Eye Beam.

[hard widget]

How did u come to this?

[clever path]

dbts is just objectively worse in pve

unless you need to taunt for some reason

[summer quail]

the sks change was great QOL, just was an indirect nerf. feels way better after the change. especially in exe

[clever path]

enraged regen is basically 1/2hp heal every 2nd global for 8 seconds

[meager gyro]

came to him in a dream, pulled a scroll of guess work out of ass

[clear palm]

why u think they wont buff arms

or fury

[glad plover]

Because they do not have to

[clever path]

cause they decided arms will be dogshit this patch and fury will be good

[hard widget]

RA is an indirect buff to enraged regen funny enough

[clever path]

it is yeah

its no longer a dps loss

[tropic cobalt]

warrior is just good enough to not be “bad” and a lot of people play fury warrior so it has high representation

[clear palm]

at least monk got buffed

[tropic cobalt]

and we also have a “legendary” as well to make us better

[clear palm]

happy to see maytbe that class is gona be okey

[tropic cobalt]

so warrior isn’t gonna get buffed

[clear palm]

now

[blissful mountain]

two two hand swords are cool

[clever path]

no

[junior gale]

not something ive come too but what Critcake has mentioned and I trust that guy

[hard widget]

Im quite sure u misheared

[uneven plaza]

„Legendary“

[hard widget]

Because fury is not better than arms in execute

[uneven plaza]

Sadge

[junior gale]

oh I didnt say better

I said similar

[clever path]

fury can definitely outperform arms in short executes if cds align

[frozen berry]

They just buffed Ret though...

[clear palm]

ye but if thats true and they are balancing specific classes on a drop of iteam thats just brain dead

[junior gale]

but if it was ever better than arms its sad for arms

[hard widget]

You did: its a sad day when fury has similiar or better execute phase dmg than arms

Thats what u said

"or better"

[clever path]

if exe is long arms just dominates with massive toms

[glad plover]

Warrior started this expansion as one of most popular classes, actually 2nd class in terms of popularity in M+. That initial injection of new players will keep up to next expansion, that is why warriors will not get any changes up to the new expansion. And there are many things that need fixing, mainly our talent system that clearly was done by drunk dev pulling allnigher.

[junior gale]

yeah the 2nd half was more hypothetical right like IF better my bad if my words were wrong

[hard widget]

Yeah but neither is true

They are not equal and fury is nowhere close to being better in execute

Its just about how u read data

If you look at HC sure, fury will outperform

But in execute arms can build massive ToM buffs and completely obliterate fury

[tropic cobalt]

true but ret kinda suffered from the same issue arms does where they can’t do ST in aoe talents

[glad plover]

Fury is only better in execute because it gets bonus damage on BloodBath when enemy is low. Execute is still seriously weak on fury, and it basically becomes a filler in execute phase.

[tropic cobalt]

and arms warriors have counterplay to that: they can respec fury

[snow edge]

He's not specifically talking about execute the ability, it's the execute phase as a whole

[leaden spoke]

respec fury is 🛌🏿 when exe mortals go

[glad plover]

I know, and fury execute is only good because of out tier set. Its more concerning that Arms execute is not a single best execute phase in the game.

[clever path]

ye and then ur ms with 45% tom cs avatar 2 ep stacks 1 op stack

hits for 400k cause it didnt crit

cause ms does no damage it reliies on buffs and steroids

which is why arms st is bad in keys

[hard widget]

fury execute: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1K5mFuAoSChj1ywX9DKZT4

[leaden spoke]

Just inject tren

[rocky wharf]

my class fantasy for fury with execute. i trigger my buff, that i you will die before i die.

[hard widget]

Arms execute: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aHGiYGfTqZYez8xygh6NXh

Its not even close

[clever path]

thats surprisingly close

[clear palm]

but shouldnt it be higher gap

[tropic cobalt]

that’s a lot tighter than i would think yeah

[clever path]

def shouldve been

[tropic cobalt]

man arms really is sad

[clever path]

arms just dogwater

it is

[hard widget]

never said arms isnt shit atm

But the execute gap is still there

Fury is not equal or better in execute

That was what i was trying to get at here

[clear palm]

aaa

i see

[hard widget]

Because @junior gale said they're equal

[clever path]

bring 9.2 prot back with current gear it would outdps both arms and fury in execute

[uneven plaza]

WW 7 additional targets when?

[clear palm]

for me its fine i do low keys so it doesnt matter either way i do like 24s 25s in pug and i retire

and few mythic raid bosses

[snow edge]

To be fair, the gap is relative to the length of the exexcute phase too; differen't content = different type of gap

[clever path]

im 99% sure fury has a better execute in m+

even if u are dropping ashen

arms has no tom

[hard widget]

Depends on your build

[clever path]

or blunt instruments

[junior gale]

alright you got me man im spreading insane misinformation thats toxic to community you can chill out now

[clever path]

I mean even with tom and fob arms st is nowhere near fury

fury with db bc shits on arms all day

[hard widget]

Im not saying ur toxic, i was just trying to show you how the executes compare

[clear palm]

idk my single target on arms is garbage i am just bad i think

[clever path]

yeah it's gonna be tom + either fob or bladestorm

db bc fury shits on both of them on st

loses in aoe

but wins on st

[hard widget]

Oh yeah in m+ arms ST is definitely behind fury

[summer quail]

you can play jugg build in m+, just run warbreaker and imp ss

[clever path]

at that point might as well play fury

[clear palm]

y xD

[clever path]

there is nothing that build is better at than fury

[junior gale]

I just miss my arms man but I cant justify playing it on prog when fury is the way it is right now

[toxic grove]

fury aoe is huge dog poop

[clever path]

jugg arms is dogshit in aoe too

[tropic cobalt]

it’s also just a good tier for fury

[hard widget]

If you go for boss damage you can play arms

[tropic cobalt]

good fury dmg profile on almost every boss

[clever path]

yep

a lot of aoe mixed with boss damage

[clear palm]

y

[clever path]

very bad arms tier

since they refuse to properly design the spec

[summer quail]

2 target cleave. tho that's pretty niche

[clever path]

11.0 warrior rework

[clear palm]

i mean they kinda did alot of reworks

[hard widget]

Council 😄

[clear palm]

already this expansion

[summer quail]

yuh

[glad plover]

12.0

[clever path]

idk a single dungeon with 2t cleave that matters

u skip bears

in dht

[frozen berry]

I really wanan see wth they're doing with the hero talents.

[clear palm]

hero talents look fun

aoe stormbolt

[clever path]

aoe stormbolt

[clear palm]

[junior gale]

its more of the tankyness that fury has right now

[rocky wharf]

have they? i remember we got one round of buff. was that...season 1?

[frozen berry]

Give us back Stormbolt doing bonus dmg to stun immune targets!

[hard widget]

In raid this should not matter at all

That means u gotta chat with ur healers

[ornate torrent]

LOL Bring back Gladiator Spec

[junior gale]

it does when your in an avg Mythic guild whos only 6/9 right now

[glad plover]

Yeah they changed AM to lower CD of Ravager. That was it, for entire dragonflight 😄

[rocky wharf]

lol make spears great again!

[hard widget]

Im 6-9 too, i dont notice much difference swapping between

[glad plover]

In M+ is one of the most important things tho.

[tropic cobalt]

i think they have to reduce the rage generation of both fury and arms as a whole

[clear palm]

i didnt notice any diffrence in raid from playing arms and fury

either

was relatively alive with both

[tropic cobalt]

i don’t like pressing rampage every other gcd as fury just for it to do piss damage

[clear palm]

but in m+ i do feel it

[hard widget]

That is the reason i said fury is better than arms in m+ currently

[clear palm]

fury just kinda unkillable

[tropic cobalt]

nerf the rage gen but buff the damage of rampage to compensate

[hard widget]

This would screw over annihilator big time

[tropic cobalt]

and get rid of annihilator

but that goes without saying

[hard widget]

At that point might aswell rework warrior

[desert musk]

ye when u have full shit stats for fury XD

[clear palm]

Jeventes how u doing in rly high keys dmg wise

compare to other giga specs

[summer quail]

they should

[hard widget]

I have full shit stats?

[tropic cobalt]

i mean i don’t think this was rly a problem before

[clever path]

wow! back to raging blow spam

cause that is definitely fun

[tropic cobalt]

personally i think it is more fun when our spender actually does damage

[hard widget]

Elaborate on why my stats are shit?

[tropic cobalt]

but that’s just my opinion

[desert musk]

10% vers

[glad plover]

I mean, one look at our talents and you can say "Yeah this needs rework" Thunder Clap is still in talent tree when fury will never, and I mean never use it, because it actually costs rage.

[desert musk]

2much haste

[hard widget]

So ur saying raidbots sucks?

[covert blaze]

thunder clap not being prot only is wild to me

[clever path]

banezi fury build

[clear palm]

any leg owners?

[covert blaze]

i have 2

[clear palm]

[slim coral]

Mages are the main character

[clever path]

wow

[clear palm]

[clever path]

who wouldve thought

[slim coral]

Meta is gonna go back to mage, pally, aug for keys

🫡

[clear palm]

inst fire mage already decent

in m+

for high keys

[hard widget]

Could you be so kind to send your sim or stats or something so i can actually compare "how shit my stats are"

[slim coral]

Maybe I should learn mage lmao

They’re always good

[glad plover]

I am fine with thunderclap being for all specs but they have to make it rage generation ability for fury. Whit rampage as our main rage spendor using anything else feels very clunky. I actually think that if they did some changes to thunder clap, they can fix a lot of problems mainly with annihilator build.

[clever path]

i dont want to press

thunderclap as fury

[clear palm]

bro thunderclap as fury

[mental ivy]

so, i'm simming my toon and it has gholak as an offhand instead of the usual 2 hand weap. is that ideal?

[clever path]

i just got rid of pressing it as arms

[clear palm]

would feel so odd

[glad plover]

No it would not if actually gave us rage it feels because it costs rage and does not have ability to enrage you.

[rocky wharf]

hol up, spec into a thunderclap or shockwave? now we cooking. some kind of cc

[hard widget]

Big cook, thunderclap as filler kekw

[rocky wharf]

lol true true

[clever path]

spread rend

as fury

[hard widget]

Well... Legendary.... Kinda like spreading rend?

[glad plover]

What Onslaugt is for RB/Ravager build, Thunderclap can be for Annihilator/OF build, and 2 talents that focus on SMF can be perfect for talents places that would affect thunderclap instead.

[slim coral]

Idk the anni build is kinda stale to me already ngl

[clear palm]

time to swap to mage Kappa

[hard widget]

Just try dh, u'll see how little buttons they have to press kekw

[slim coral]

True

[slim coral]

Yeah but their abitlites are pretty sick I play DH in keys

That shit fucks

[clear palm]

yeah but idk dh is actually fun

[clever path]

same with me last patch played arms for 99% of the patch

fury was like

193 million apm

[clear palm]

u feel strong playing DH

[rocky wharf]

i kinda imagine as rend as a bite in a fight. nah son, we fury we head butt and punch!

[clever path]

for no damage

[clear palm]

eye beam and shiet

feels nice

[hard widget]

I know, i made a dh alt. played 4 days and outdps my fully geared warrior. But i can't even fill my bars

[clear palm]

ye well

[glad plover]

So I do not rly understand why you do not like Thunderclap, is literally kicking ground.... really strong and with angry expresion 😄

[hard widget]

It do be fun to do big dmg tho

[clear palm]

did u like the spec

or ur not gona play it

[hard widget]

minus the really strong dmg part

[glad plover]

You do not play warrior to do damage tho, right?

[true sapphire]

I play warrior for the utility I bring to the group.

[clear palm]

XD

[rocky wharf]

/cast battle shout

[glad plover]

Yes, all that juicy ST stun

[true sapphire]

I literally just play warrior because I have 2 big sord

And I charge into something and shoulder check it.

[mental ivy]

so, i'm simming my toon and it has gholak as an offhand instead of the usual 2 hand weap. is that ideal?

[clever path]

yes thats fine

[glad plover]

Yeah I am sarcastic what I was aiming at is the fact that Fury and Arms compared to other specs started to feel like death by 1000 cuts. Fast hitting specs with weak abilities.

[clever path]

happened to me early in the patch

[clear palm]

bois we getting next week rework

[glad plover]

"We noticed that fury and arms bring too much utility so to compensate that we removed shockwave from their kit"

[clever path]

they shouldve kept shockwave a prot only thing

[clear palm]

https://tenor.com/view/kek-bomb-gif-23013778

[clever path]

its so deep in the tree that you have to give up both cruel strikes for it

which is just not fun

[clear palm]

are prots at least doing well

that would be something

[clever path]

in m+ ye jsut not popular

[summer quail]

yes, prot paladins are doing very well

[clear palm]

ye prot is broken

for survival

[glad plover]

Bro, no take Shockwave and you might as well change name of the class to "dps bot". We need refinment for our Utility, not reduction of it. Making Storm Bolt base can fix issue. They are not going to do it tho because remember if you put anything in patchnotes after warlocks WoW servers will crash.

[clear palm]

in high keys

[clever path]

wow who wouldve thought

[clever path]

shockwave is just a tease

at this point

its useless

if u have aug

and dh

if they can play the game

it drs with everything its on a long ass cd

and the stun is 2s

[glad plover]

I mean everything is uselsess if you have Aug and DH if you do not have this 2 specs however Shockwave is very powerful CC interupt.

[clear palm]

dogmentation

[empty grove]

I feel like AUG is overrated tbh

[true sapphire]

Yeah. Not everyone is running with DH and/or aug. I very rarely run with either of them, let alone both. Certain packs, shockwave is very nice.

[clever path]

it is not

[clear palm]

it rly isnt

its insane

[clever path]

you couldnt time 30s

without one

you couldnt live

[clear palm]

and lower keys for ppl aswell just makes them alot easier

25 feels like 22

[clever path]

their utility makes up for less damage

cause it is a dps loss compared to running 2 havocs + mage or w/e

[rocky wharf]

pugged my way to 25k io. no one interupts. why doesnt stomrbolt spread with the whirlwind buff? whats up with that

[clear palm]

isnt it a must am pretty sure for like 28s 29s

and 27s

to have dogmentation

[clever path]

yes

no one would live except for tanks and fury warriors

and rets

[clear palm]

cringe

imagine ur off spec

class

for funning it

aug takes spot no matter wat

[left perch]

the thing about aug is it feels as to play if your group is ass

but you’re a god if they have more than 3 brain cells between 2 dps

[clever path]

well yeah

you depend on ur dps doing dps

[slim coral]

Isn’t mage easy to play?

That’s what I heard

[young swan]

no

mage is prob the hardest class in the game

dont think its close tbh

[slim coral]

Really? People have been saying arcane is brain dead a lot recently

[clear palm]

no bro mage is pretty difficult specially if u go into top content and u gotta sweat

[slim coral]

I wouldn’t know though cause I haven’t played the class myself

[clear palm]

it has alot of min maxing

[slim coral]

Who remembers Crit mage?

[clever path]

fire was fucky early last patch with optimizing ur damage

[clear palm]

i do gigachad

[clever path]

heard they made it easy in .5

[slim coral]

[clever path]

frost is just

[slim coral]

Critmage was a fun time

[clear palm]

frost is mega boring

arcane is fun

but that spec is cancer

[clever path]

real

[slim coral]

He didn’t even know what he was doing and did 1 mil on a pack

[clear palm]

complicated

[clever path]

pressing wrong abilities outdpsing his warr

[clear palm]

XD

[clever path]

thats 10 ilvls higher

[young swan]

its not about doing damga

[slim coral]

What’s it about then?

[clever path]

insane utility + insane dmg + tankies ranged class

[slim coral]

They have plenty of utility

[clear palm]

wasnt like fire mage tankiest class

in exodia

comp

last season

[clever path]

no

[young swan]

its maximizing the utility

[clever path]

you filled around aug

[young swan]

and playing around it correctly

[clever path]

mage did the most damage

[slim coral]

Mage now has Aug and DH to buff them

[young swan]

see firedup

[clever path]

out of any class

[clear palm]

ye but i remember

ppl saying

fire mage was mega tanky

last season

[clever path]

yes it is megatanky

mages are generally very tanky

not tanky as fury or ret

but tanky

[clear palm]

well ye tanky for

caster

i mean

[clever path]

ye they are

arcane used to be the tankiest ranged idk anymore

prob still is

idk maybe they gave arcane defensives to all mages

no clue really

[clear palm]

idk this season u have so many things that impact overall aswell its kinda messed up

like last boss in everbloom

etc

[summer quail]

the difference is mage is tanky when pressing defensives. you have to premitigate. can't heal themselves up

[clever path]

yep

need to pop defensives preemptively

fury just heals back

with 1mil hp

[clear palm]

[clever path]

people seriously downplay furys hp pool

2 2hs

endurance training + disc priest

thats almost 1.1mil

[summer quail]

also mage has one of the most broken spells in the game. why is alter time like a 40 sec cd

[clever path]

thats true

its very busted

[red yew]

Because 99% mages don't know how to use it

[summer quail]

real

[left perch]

Rev knows

that’s why we call him the Mage Killer ™

[young swan]

our hp pool is like

[summer quail]

@eternal sundial do you know how to use alter time?

[young swan]

pretty average

we have the least hp of the other 3 plate guys

(arms isnt real)

[hallow sphinx]

[clever path]

ye but our defensives our superior -ret but even ret has to spam wog so they lose damage

we pop er and just play our rotation

[snow edge]

Haven't seen Gajeel put Xan in his place and it's been over 10sec, wild

[clever path]

[slim coral]

Gajeel has gotten soft

[snow edge]

@hallow sphinx plz lift

[young swan]

.

[covert blaze]

[hallow sphinx]

1 moment

[hallow sphinx]

youre pretty average

gottem

[snow edge]

gottemmm

[hallow sphinx]

xan practices stolen valor

[snow edge]

[hallow sphinx]

on CD

[young swan]

???????

[meager gyro]

who's got a SMF m+ build?

[hallow sphinx]

the real questions!

[past pivot]

Take your regular M+ build, subtract 10% dps from it. Done

[meager gyro]

[fluid cedar]

wheres syi

smf deddi wya

[meager gyro]

guess I'm going like this

[unreal kelp]

[snow edge]

Yeh probably, for M+ if you want to give it a bash in lower keys for something different

Although if you want a change-up just play Arms in M+ imo

[spare otter]

Slayer gonna be SMF focused???

[inland flame]

Big class tuning announced, nothing for us

[glossy pebble]

What's new?

[north edge]

Fury’s kinda okay

Arms getting buttfucked

[olive wraith]

How did arms get buttfucked

[fleet parrot]

Because there’s no buffs

[north edge]

Everyone else near the bottom with arms got buffed

[olive wraith]

Arms still has council

[naive summit]

why cant meatcleaver just hit all targets but reduced effectiveness after 5?

[past pivot]

Because Blizz won't allow it

[glossy pebble]

Remove meat cleaver and just have WW act like blade flurry

[naive summit]

or if they are going to keep it at 5 targets at least make it so that i can do more dmg than a rogue that presses blade flurry which hits 8 targets

[warm crag]

you can just go play outlaw if you want

[naive summit]

i would never play something as limp dick as a rogue

[glossy pebble]

That's my alt, lots of fun

[warm crag]

the limp dick class that is carrying you through the raid

[naive summit]

they would be nothing without my 5% attack power buff 😛

[warm crag]

yeah about that

[glossy pebble]

How would they even fix Fury AoE without it being way over tuned

[past pivot]

Exactly

[naive summit]

i swear what i said earlier would be balanced

[past pivot]

No. That's why they changed it

[glossy pebble]

This?

[naive summit]

it would be no more broken than dh hunter outlaw demo

[glossy pebble]

There is no way that would be balanced

Everything bleeding with CSHB would do way too much damage

And you'd be unkillable

[naive summit]

if thats the problem then just remove it

a fine sacrifice to make for salvation

[true sapphire]

Honestly I think just increasing our melee range to be more in line with rog/paladin would probably be a pretty big bump to us. And making my interrupt ranged...

[glossy pebble]

"Interrupting Throw"

I would get behind that

[past pivot]

Give us back piercing howl as baseline. Or do something with hamstring. Make it trip mobs up at least.

[true sapphire]

Biggest annoyance coming from Unholy to Fury was not having ranged interrupt.

[glossy pebble]

Piercing Howl being a knockdown would be cool

[true sapphire]

Yeah give every mob an animation where they fall flat on their face and scramble back up when I cleave hamstring.

[glossy pebble]

Like a 45s CD knockdown

[naive summit]

and then make it so that when u do that, they deal 30% less dmg for 8 seconds

do rogues take that talent btw?

the blind one

[glossy pebble]

Yeah

The AoE blind

Super useful

[past pivot]

Piercing Howl could be our AoE disorient.

[glossy pebble]

I would have it be a knockdown or else it wouldn't be any different than incap roar

[meager gyro]

why didn't anyone tell me my makeshift SMF m+ talents had TR 🤦

I did a key like that confused AF

[past pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-bus-struggling-the-is-gif-27633934

It's SMF. people expect the short bus.

[meager gyro]

do you think the game will let me make a guild named that

I need a guild to house my warrior alts

[past pivot]

lol

[meager gyro]

I just haven't bothered farming hero 2 handers yet on this toon. I will though but having fun until then.

[cosmic flax]

do we hold avatar until dancing blades falls off or just until OF avatar buff falls off in ST?

[true sapphire]

Until OF avatar buff falls off I believe.

[crystal summit]

Until OF dot falls off

Yeah, same timing

[pale trout]

technically, OF dot damage can be reapplied 1s before it fades, it is pandemic on its very last second

just some very extreme min/maxing

basically when you press Reck + OF, you can count to three to press Avatar, because the Odyn dot will stack up on the last second of the previous Odyn's

[true sapphire]

Nice, I made a WA to track Avatar and just pop Ava when the WA disappears after OF but I might have to get a li'l wild with it. Maybe make it flash after 3 sec

[glad dawn]

Please help the victims of the Korean server.

The production of Fyr'alath was completed last week with the Korean server catching the difficulty of Mystic Fyrakk.

Originally, Fyr'alath's embers should come out at the start of this week, but they didn't.

For this reason, I contacted the infomation center,

The answer is, we've been informed of the problem, and we're going to fix it. We've got the answer, "So what? Just play the game."

Blizzard Korea doesn't have any announcements, apologies, and corrective measures
They are deceiving the victims without posting them.

I wonder if this would have gone by even if it had happened on the US server or the European server.

The Korean server is a server where a relatively small number of users play Wow.

Is it correct to ignore it as a server with a small number of people?

Please help the victims of the Korean server!

Blizzard is not taking any action or apologizing to the victims.

[calm mantle]

I guess someone that wasn't a fury warrior applied lol.

[meager gyro]

an easier way, other than watching buff on plater etc, is just just watch your Avatar buff, it lasts same amount of time as OF dot

[vague sand]

i just do burst opener, ramp>bb>ramp>bb then send avatar

[empty grove]

So on pull for ST do we use the leggo active

[modest condor]

no, use it after your cooldowns are over

[empty grove]

but the quick sim says use it on pull then send cds >_>

its wrong?

[modest condor]

yes

apl hasnt been optimized yet

[acoustic furnace]

It only took me 5 weeks but i have my heroic gorehowl.

[covert blaze]

grats!

[subtle lagoon]

We're just not going to be in any patch notes are we

[calm mantle]

Still hunting mine, I either get no loot from rise or the healer specced pally pulls gorehowl and it soulbinds.

[acoustic furnace]

I know the feeling. Had one drop for a DK friend that wanted to give it to me. But unfortunately couldn't be traded bc it was in ilvl upgrade.

Made me so mad haha

[celest sierra]

Dumb question probably but question - is the legendary weps dot applied via aoe like whirlwind or do we have to melee each add or whatever individually

[calm mantle]

I was crying inside when the healer went to trade it to me but couldn't.

[acoustic furnace]

You'll get it. I had given up on it and then it dropped today and I almost shit my pants. All I need now is Resan Trinket for ST and Augury for AoE and then I've beaten this season lol

[full viper]

Switching to Fury after Havox nerfs. Worth crafting a 2H at this stage ?

[calm mantle]

Still hunting a second trinket as well, still got my 447 anvil xD

[acoustic furnace]

BiS two handers aren't too bad to farm so I'd say get embellishments first. You'll replace crafted weapons eventually but Allied Wristguards and Shadowflame cloak are BiS.

Craft weapon next week if you still need it.

[full viper]

Blue silken lining ? The mastery buff good for Fury right ?

[acoustic furnace]

No. Almost impossible to upkeep. Shadowflame Embellishment on cloak and then Allied Wristguards are BiS.

[covert blaze]

get shadowflame x2 or shadowflame + allied wrists

[calm mantle]

First pull of black rook, they still weren't all dead. Quickest I've left a key. It was my key tho so it's okay.

[acoustic furnace]

I was doing rise the other day and died two times back to back to snake boy sand grab ability. No interrupts from anyone. I decided to just brick my key.

[calm mantle]

Sometimes you just know it's not going to end well so it's better to brick then waste 40 minutes.

I will admit we only had like 4 interrupts on the first pack but we also had like no dps to murder it.

[empty grove]

my homies who are running 24s and above what build you running

[hallow sphinx]

@young swan MOTO 📈

[oblique trail]

[covert blaze]

🫃

[tame yarrow]

Oh look guys: huge class changes 😄

[hallow sphinx]

:3

[oblique trail]

Omg no warrior changes!!! Grrr!!!

[covert blaze]

:ragey:

[tame yarrow]

Best class doesnt need changes

[subtle lagoon]

Even monk, a class ignored by blizzard the most, received changes.

Give us anything at this point, even a cooldown reduction to battle cry ffs

[oblique trail]

God no

What a horrid change for current Fury

[young swan]

yeah cdr on our raid buff

[dapper goblet]

if you think warrior needs buffs

you are a tardis

[young swan]

i would be more upset if they did that instead of just ignoring us

[covert blaze]

xeos that's a little too based

[hallow sphinx]

@dapper goblet hello wonka

[sullen dove]

doctor who

[dapper goblet]

👩‍🦯

[modest condor]

that first pull is spicy this week

[subtle lagoon]

I think it needs tuning

[modest condor]

got hit by an 850k dot application

instantly died

[oblique trail]

Just spell reflect the melee

😎

[sudden tusk]

👨‍🦼

[acoustic furnace]

Just have more health easy fix

[hallow sphinx]

blue man

[dapper goblet]

blue man avoiding nerfs again

[oblique trail]

I need a Xeos in my life rn

giving me WF

[modest condor]

damn true thanks for the tip

[dapper goblet]

what was bad in this that was automodded

[tame yarrow]

Meta will change from warrior not picked in Keys to warrior not picked in keys 😄 Fury doesnt really need changes though. I agree

[modest condor]

the word starting with an a apparently

[dapper goblet]

c word or the a word

[oblique trail]

Xeos automod evading again

[calm mantle]

That dot really fucks you up.

[oblique trail]

The melee guys' dot you can spell reflect if you're paying attention at least

[modest condor]

wasnt even the dot itself, it was the application

it did more damage than the bolts

[modest condor]

yeah the first one

[oblique trail]

well

SB the next one

👴

[acoustic furnace]

Wait. Can it actually be reflected? I thought y'all were trolling.

[modest condor]

yes it can

[vivid peak]

How does everyone feel about Branch from gnarl? I know my current gear sims says its better than what I have over coiled

[oblique trail]

It's a damage trinket

From what I've seen doesn't do super impressive damage

But it's better than Serpent for M+ that's for sure

[young swan]

it is one of the trinkets of all time

[acoustic furnace]

Serpent is a hot and spicy deep fried shit in M+

[vivid peak]

Im assuming in a bad way lol I only have sandglass, Branch, coild and signet

too lazy to farm anything yet

[oblique trail]

When you aren't lazy, farm out a Might of the Ocean

It's arguably your best on-use choice for M+, combined with Augury/any other mainstat passive trinket

Signet can be good but is very dependent on the group you're running with and the dungeon

[acoustic furnace]

Macro it to Avatar and profit

[oblique trail]

You can do that if you have it separate to use it before OF

[vivid peak]

I do run both pretty equally so I am just trying to get variety soonish

[acoustic furnace]

I do

[oblique trail]

If you don't, it's just a waste to macro it to Avatar and nowhere else

[subtle lagoon]

sandglass sims higher for me than crab, I'm a bigger fan of the mastery and avoidance though

[vague sand]

wouldn't u just macro might to reck?

since you get, in theory, 23 sec of avatar where the last like 5 are meh

[oblique trail]

You can if you want to be lazy about it

I just personally never recommend macro'ing stuff to begin with, at the very least if you don't have it separately as well and are actively using your macro's properly

[acoustic furnace]

I have it on my bar I just keep it on a macro bc I have monke brain and forget to press things sometimes

[vague sand]

I have 3 buttons, all macros.. I just smash keyboard and see big numbers

[oblique trail]

You do you

[vague sand]

in that regard, whats a good overall for m+ usually?

[oblique trail]

yes

Idk time the key, beat the tank and be happy or something

It depends a whole lot on the dungeon and your group

I've done between 200k to 300k in the same dungeon, all mostly varied by what group I ran with

[covert blaze]

hard to say

depends on key level, your gear, how the tank pulls/how fast you go

and some keys have inflated numbers due to damage amps

[oblique trail]

Ozumat my beloved

No 400k dream yet

[covert blaze]

a friend hit ozumat for 31 million with belor

[jovial coral]

"be happy" yeah you're just asking too much agian benzai

[oblique trail]

you're a chimp

[jovial coral]

This chimp needs that axe

[oblique trail]

If only I had Mirror before Details gutted the Ozumat damage from overall

[calm mantle]

Is black rook hold cursed this week? Second key, second brick after first pull...

[oblique trail]

My peak was 370k in Throne

And I'm too bad at the game to reach 400k in BRH like Loboz does

I also just haven't tried

[oblique trail]

Just loot it

Like I haven't looted Brand, Augury or the Lego yet

[covert blaze]

400k with the cooked build?

[vague sand]

Not really, just tanks doing a double pull that looks like a single one with many interrupts. Ive timed a couple, have bricked a couple more

[jovial coral]

Uuh just take your own advice maybe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972618743991635978.webp?size=48&name=Clueless&quality=lossless

[celest sierra]

How’s your burst lookin

Like first pull of the dungeon with lust what’s ya numbers at

[olive wraith]

At the end of the fight?

[vague sand]

idk, im always dead

[oblique trail]

Yeah

I'd do it

[vague sand]

pop cds, die due to aggro

[oblique trail]

But dungeons snooze

[olive wraith]

Or highest peak that I’ve seen

[vague sand]

literally all 5 BRH ive done, same shit has happened

[celest sierra]

Yeh

[covert blaze]

pinned in paladin discord

[oblique trail]

My peak burst was around 1.4 something mill during a double dragon pull in Galakronds where the 2 other DPS were sleeping

[olive wraith]

I noticed 900k during first throne pull

[oblique trail]

so real

[olive wraith]

Might’ve been higher I’m not sure

[oblique trail]

After the first 2 weeks of M+ grind for gear, M+ turns into a chore and becomes boring

it is what it is

[covert blaze]

play alts

[cedar shuttle]

why no warrior changes by the blue post 😢

[oblique trail]

heck no

[jovial coral]

Well let's have an epic battle (doing rise 20 times) and see who can get the highest overall 😎

Spoiler it will be me

[oblique trail]

It will be because I wont be entering that hellhole

[calm mantle]

I've hit like 750k in a throne pull, was also the one time I matched the demo warlocks dps.

Attempt 3 at BRH thsi time it's a 20 lets go boys

[jovial coral]

Yes bro cmon

It will be... fun

yeah fun

[elder vessel]

I hit a fat 1.37m

In brh

[modest condor]

i've peaked at 1.7mil on the double dragon pull in fall

[elder vessel]

And then shortly dusted by a bm

[modest condor]

without might/pot too

[wild seal]

How bad is hekili? 😅 I just started playing fury and thought it would give me a hand learning the class, came across a log of mine and am extremely disappointed haha

[modest condor]

it's fine for starting out but don't use it for too long

[pulsar prawn]

long term a weakaura would be way better ^^

[wild seal]

Can I post a log here or should I use the proper channel? Looking for some guidance after this disappointment haha

[wild seal]

Which ones would you recommend I just got a pack from quazii

[calm mantle]

There is a log review channel.

[pulsar prawn]

the #449510248579858432 is rather for player that play the class for a certain time. for basics just use the wowhead guide

[wild seal]

Wow head or is icy veins one better?

[pulsar prawn]

just try some out and look what looks most appealing to you. and some do more some less. some have useless stuff in there.. some to little..
Just try n error 😉
https://wago.io/dragonflight-weakauras/classes/warrior

[wild seal]

But to better my rotation there might be things I should most likely be tracking

[pulsar prawn]

both are written by the same. just the sides have different structures

[wild seal]

To replace hekili

[pulsar prawn]

yeah learning a class is kinda understand whats best at every timing. also what is best combined. thats why guide into weakaura is great.
a addon like hekili just suggests: press that.... and not why and its not even knows the circumstances

[past pivot]

Wowhead seems to be updated sooner. But always check the pins here first.
Hekili is good for learning the basics but drop it soon as you can. The best way is to learn the rotation is to play.
Be that on a target dummy or low keys. Just play and get comfortable.
You don’t need to track everything in a weak aura or in a macro. Some people over do it.

[wild seal]

I see, thanks for your help everyone

[sinful spoke]

Guys can tuesday come faster so i can get my lego

[storm rune]

I timed a 20 with 40 deaths a couple days ago, if I can do it so can you

[gilded pawn]

alternatively you can just play hekili very well

and hit CE with it

[paper ivy]

i suggest the affenar

works verly well and tracks ur avatar up time

[wild seal]

Thanks!

[pulsar prawn]

i will never understand why blizzard made service chat baseline enabled

you like that seeing every day?

[paper ivy]

i dont really pay attetion to it

[pulsar prawn]

i mean i dont mind.. i get gold from buyers.. but... uuuh

[paper ivy]

a question for the pvp players, how do i earn this achievments

Stormbreath: This entire tier is devoted to PvP achievements. The Prestige, Crest of Heroism, Crest of Carnage, Crest of Devastation'

[calm mantle]

we 2 key'd it was good

[paper ivy]

like what kind of pvp do i have to do

[past pivot]

#pvp

[rotund steppe]

got nitro again

[half cargo]

[rocky wharf]

want to say o, rib nih dobnjgiojiojn\

[wanton thorn]

TW server also had no legendary and BLP drops on last Thursday(New CD) . BZ fixed it on last Friday without any announcements and no compensation to players who cleared Fyrakk before hotfix lol.

[oblique trail]

If it helps, EU was also bugged early on the first day of reset

I killed Fyrakk a few hours after reset with no BLP item dropping

At least one week of BLP shouldn't matter much in the long run, even if it sucks

[naive swallow]

damn

finally

[elder vessel]

The dragon pull does go pretty crazy

[rotund steppe]

this is why i say that thing is a placebo

they didnt even bother to replace em

[sullen dove]

why you got all the peak shit

kaney

[lavish crypt]

Am hi could I ask you guys for advice i am looking for a alt and I am debating between fury or ret pala i plan to do 24s on it for fun so idk what’s better as a alt to perform

[sullen dove]

idk go fury no balls

[stuck bison]

Fury good tanky better prio and st damage. You can get both aoe stops with ease if you want. Shockwave is usually enough tho

[cerulean bronze]

If you have 3k4 Rio you will be accepted on +24 has fury, otherwise you will have to do your own key. I think ret is more viable on pug (because at this level of key, getting a Rez battle is mandatory) + you have a far better burst on aoe has ret (if tank pull very big)

[timid notch]

@ ret is better

[lavish crypt]

Hahaha simple and easy 😂

[somber elk]

Fury is more fun, for me atleast

[lavish crypt]

lol idk yet i want to see how fury’s look on that it looks so fun to play compared to pala but I still want to like get keys 😂

[lavish crypt]

Same that’s my point like I don’t play warrior that much so idk what’s the situation on geting in to pugs and shit

[timid notch]

you will rarely get invited , if you think you will get into +24 with random people just forget it . if you have at least a good tank / healer friend then i would consider it

[lavish crypt]

I scam my healer friend 😂

[lavish crypt]

So you think probably pala the for ez of entry ?

[timid notch]

yes I'd say your chances are 20% more

[heavy galleon]

Why we are NEVER on class tuning post ?

[final birch]

rets are getting invited?

[lavish crypt]

Oh well thanks I’ll still do maybe a gamble since ret looks soo boring 😂

[cerulean bronze]

Because we are mid

[timid notch]

Not really , Ret blasts harder in big pulls . also being boring is better than left alone

[oblique trail]

Is a different artist

I follow a few that have this very distinct way of drawing the eyes

[lavish crypt]

Depends what you like as a dh and bm player I lost my mind of how boring it is

[mental hound]

whats better in keys fury or arms

[oblique trail]

Both are good, but generally Fury

[mental hound]

fury hurts my hands i am 33

[timid notch]

arms for chads , fury for stereotype

[oblique trail]

Arms has better damage on larger pulls compared to Fury, but Fury is overall tankier

And rn it's not so much a damage issue that'll cause you to deplete keys

It's just about if you can live or not

[floral summit]

this

[gritty sigil]

Hey guys, I'm looking for someone who could maybe sit down and coach me some time within the next 4 days on fury Warrior (can pay). I know parses aren't everything, but I've never struggled to get 99s in normal before this season, and i cant get past 90s in heroic. I can screen record or livestream, log, etc. IGN: RoidRageRyan.

[tardy solar]

Is there a way to sim this easily to find out what the best enchants for me are?

[oblique trail]

Yes by not picking every single enchant

Just pick Wafting, Sophic and Earthen

[tardy solar]

Earthen? Wouldnt frozen be better because of vers?

[oblique trail]

You might also have a scenario where Frozen Writ will be better

It depends on your stats

For me rn I have Earthen be better than Frozen

[tardy solar]

Still too many lol

[spice sage]

get premium

[oblique trail]

Remove Sophic then

Majority of Fury players atm have Wafting, Earthen or Frozen sim the best

[tardy solar]

Fair

[oblique trail]

Sophic is technically the best enchant for M+, but it's not so far ahead of the better ST enchants that it's a big cause for worry

Unless you just have an endless amount of gold

[tardy solar]

I feel like i definitely M+ more often

[oblique trail]

It's up to you really. I'd still sim to see what the results look like for ST at least

And your weapon enchants wont make or break your throughput in M+, compared to just playing well

[tardy solar]

Fair enough

[heavy galleon]

I don't think we are mid again if every bottom will be buff :x

[near gust]

well we are last in alphabetical order of classes so they probably just forget about us

[final birch]

fury is mid without legendary

very strong mid

[trail bane]

Can they nerf warriors already

[dense elbow]

We are represented in 25+ keys, last time I checked 11 were in, 16 were not. Of the ones in we were 7. Of the melee we are top 3, tied with rogue.

Now I am sure data have changed, but we are for sure high-mid at worst.

We are fine

[molten spear]

Do the lesser ember drop if for example you killed fyrakk on hc and then go back to do all the other hc bosses?

or normal?

[trail bane]

I just want to feel something, going patch after patch after patch with no changes makes me dead inside

At this point i want them to remove Spell Reflect. I would hate it, but at least i would feel something.

[dense elbow]

You just fishing now huh

[molten spear]

i don't know what you are talking about being mid but in m+ dhs are doing on average 25% more damage than war btw, don't care that only 3 other classes are doing that damage but the difference between a war and a good spec is insane

[oblique trail]

Every spec/class looks shit by comparison

[dense elbow]

Warrior and monk

[molten spear]

100k more every single key with same gar and skill level

[dense elbow]

Warrior or sp

[molten spear]

@oblique trail hunter/locks/dhs/rogues those specs do damage, other are all mid

i guess aug too but we don't know, logs are bugged

[oblique trail]

I know, and I'm saying every other class and spec looks shit by comparison to them, but that doesn't mean that the specs actually are necessarily bad

[molten spear]

sadly it does mean that in this game

cause why someone would invite you insted of them?

[oblique trail]

I mean by this logic if you aren't in the god comp then you're just playing a shit class

Which just isn't true

[dense elbow]

Depends on definition no

[molten spear]

anyway who cares,so someones know about leggo bad luck protection? if i did normal or heroic fyrakk, do i need to go back and do the other bosses for the lesser embers?

[dense elbow]

Yep, gotta do em all for minmax

[molten spear]

i mean if it actually drops is not min max is needed

but idk if it drops

[dense elbow]

What

[oblique trail]

Auto modded gg

And yes the lesser embers drop even after you've killed Fyrakk for the week