fury

[warm crag]

rogues should still be getting gear

[ember apex]

lmao

[delicate flume]

I feel like I’ve wasted my time leveling this warrior lol but I am now level 69 boysssss uWu

[warm crag]

tbf i have 4/5 mythic but 2 of those are from vault

[ember apex]

well congrats on being prob like the top 0.1% geared warriors on the entire planet

[restive peak]

We've had a decent chunk of zenith drop + reclearing at least 6 since week 1

[ember apex]

minus leggo of course

[restive peak]

Plus 1 is catalyzed nymue gloves, 1 is vault

[ember apex]

my guild always gets a mega fuck ton of pally priest shaman

[terse ether]

Should we use the leggo ?

i mean the active

charge

[spare otter]

yea when u got nothing to use

[ember apex]

u guys know the trading post

u can defer 1 item for next month

until u can afford

they should do that for the great vault

[warm crag]

call it ritual league

ive got an exalt deferred

[spare otter]

so how many people do you want in a raid group for your best chances of looting an item?

[warm crag]

doesnt matter?

[spare otter]

ok thought there might be some secret tech

[ember apex]

are u playing this league

[warm crag]

all you care about is if those people share the same loot interests as you

[warm crag]

yes i solved a childrens puzzle in the uber lab and dropped some jewel worth 6 divines and then proceeded to die to a trap because im an idiot

[spare otter]

😦

[barren stone]

at 30 i think you get 3 tier tokens if you wanna give you the best chance of looting a tier token or sth like this dont invite many ppl that share the token so not many ppl can roll on it

[spare otter]

nah its just for augury

[ember apex]

not in HC tho?

[chrome plover]

huge

[warm crag]

no fuck hc lmao

[flat sapphire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fZRbczrAp1oGBxWmSTZ6v5

[barren stone]

got mine in week 2 YEP even a HC one

[flat sapphire]

I think my sim is prety good

[ember apex]

i need to finish up my M+ this week and see if i can finish the last 50 points to 3k io

[dark lynx]

Playing HC is cringe. I paid for my portal skins and I'm going to use all 6 damnit

[spare otter]

yep lucky fuck

[ember apex]

before i can play this league

im still jonesing for a Myth track weapon

we been mega giga unlucky w/ gnarlroot loot

we still need 3x maybe 4x myth track 2h STR weps

[warm crag]

noob

[ember apex]

lol ok

[warm crag]

invoke your phd in dps

[ember apex]

to do what force items onto the bosses corpse

[deep zinc]

Do y’all think I should craft shadowflame cloak or a shadowflame chest piece? My current chest is a champion tier piece 8/8 and I have 4 set without it so it’s my lowest ilvl potential piece while my current cloak is 483

[ember apex]

wait how do u know about this

[warm crag]

its your discord name you muppet

[deep zinc]

Cloak is haste mast

[ember apex]

oh right

i forgot about that ty

[warm crag]

keep it it suits you

[ember apex]

ty

[restive peak]

Cloak, crafted is lower ilvl therefore less stats, you don't want it as a main piece

[ember apex]

i dont think ive done a M+ or raid w/ an ele sham this entire season

[delicate flume]

Crafted pieces should have vers mast for m+ yea?

[radiant plank]

spear can get parried?

[rapid nest]

Guys, mythic raid is cross realm ?

[deep niche]

No

[vague sand]

augury worst than rezan on st?

pairing it w/ signet b

[tacit crag]

I think signet/rezans is highest pure st 4+ mins but if there's any adds or shorter fights augury goes higher in my experience

[vague sand]

makes sense

[dark lynx]

Must be nice having a rezans

[winter shoal]

Mirror fuk gud on short fights

[winter shoal]

Get your ass in AD homie

[dark lynx]

I think I ran it about 30 times

[tacit crag]

I think on something like hc volcoross a mirror would do good if it's sub 3 mins

[dark lynx]

Been taking a break to play other games so I don't break my monitor

[winter shoal]

Most hc fights are under 3 mins at this point

[modest condor]

augury vs rezan just depends on your secondaries

[winter shoal]

I ran DHT 30 times in one weekend for the ring and that was pure despair

[modest condor]

since augury gives crit, if your crit is high it loses value

[dark lynx]

Yeah I did the same for gorehowl 😢

rise is such a fucking miserable dungeon too

[winter shoal]

Just get gorehowl from vault

[tacit crag]

Some people got them giga casual guilds so I was just stating for clarity.

[dark lynx]

My first vault was a little cursed cause my best option was 483 shifting sandglass thingy

which is lowkey kinda ass

[glad coyote]

so do we know how much these loss prevention items give us?

ive had like 5 greater's

[tulip swallow]

My second vault was a socket angle

[chilly fractal]

That was in my vault this week… socket for my crafted bracers wasn’t bad tho

[dark lynx]

In hindsight I probably should have taken socket

but honestly, I have looted basically fuck all for trinkets so it's still better than nothing I guess

[clever belfry]

@warm crag u comings raid or??

[short gust]

hey hey which talent build is good to play this week ?

[dark lynx]

I think like 2 of my first 3 vaults last season wound up being sockets last season so I was glad to get anything 😢

[clever belfry]

same as always

[warm crag]

probably

depends how many mains in on fyrakk

need augury

[dark lynx]

For this weeks affixes I think you actually want to run a secret talent build. What you need to do is go ahead and close your client and play a different game because bolstering fort is dogwater

[twin glacier]

First vault was a socket. Had 1 mythic raid 2 heroic. Rest was 8x20s

[restive peak]

Rezans 489 is a .5% DPS increase over 483 augury

[chilly fractal]

I’m sitting extra Mythic bosses each week now so I can have more Heroic Vault slots until we kill Mythic Smolderon

[clever belfry]

kang

[ember apex]

fuck thats some high IQ shit

[restive peak]

Which, to me, says just run augury on basically everything except direct ST (Volo/Smolder/Nymue)

[ember apex]

i still need my mythic nymue kill so i can be 6/9M llike my guild

[restive peak]

The second an additional target comes in you'll prefer augury

[spare otter]

isnt there some tech with augury on smolderon tho

[clever belfry]

the tech is

get lucky

[restive peak]

That's probably true due to amp tbh

But still RNG

So is rezans I suppose, esp as a dot

[plucky ice]

ez game

[ember apex]

yo trade me those items

[plucky ice]

ok

[coarse nest]

483 life

[tulip swallow]

Legendary next week for sure

[modest condor]

[unreal onyx]

surely leggo today

[dire badge]

this week or next week

[unreal onyx]

todaay

hc clear for helm enchant and leggo drop

maybe I get augury as a lil bonus too

[indigo quarry]

just go kill 2 boss in normal

[noble elm]

I got lesser embers off of like every boss this week

[indigo quarry]

they drop like candies the thingy for the quest

[noble elm]

Feeling lucky

[unreal onyx]

but I have guild raid today

last myth reclear aswell

until then it's prison time

[upbeat plume]

I've been sitting for so many encounters in mythic cause like more then half our bis gear is m+ this season and I've gotten 3/4 mythic tier from vault lol

[warm crag]

are you gearing for bis or to prog bosses what

[modest condor]

this is why i hate bis lists

[fading bane]

bis lists batchest

[modest condor]

people skip out on obvious upgrades, or roll on obvious downgrades, just because it is or isn't bis

[unreal onyx]

my dmg is shit bc I am not full bis

[fading bane]

why get a gnarlroot mythic wep when i can farm rise for a lower ilvl gorehowl + legendary combo

[modest condor]

the amount of time we waste in my guild because of all this bis bullshit

just roll on an item when it's an upgrade and don't roll when it isn't

who cares that 5 months from now when we have killed fyrakk 10 times the item won't be bis anymore

[dry talon]

pips trinket good in m+?

[modest condor]

yes

pretty much the 2nd best passive trinket

after augury

[warm lark]

Took about 500k gold and 8 hours

[modest condor]

grats

[ember apex]

massive congrats

[warm crag]

not avoidance

vendor it

[narrow narwhal]

I could do it in 1

[plucky ice]

no socket trash

[modest condor]

damn imagine if the lego could roll avoidance

[plucky ice]

[warm crag]

remember when every item could have sockets

i still have a socketed getikku

[modest condor]

remember when we could reforge secondaries

[dire badge]

👴

[warm crag]

no

[narrow narwhal]

I remember

The good ole days

[modest condor]

but it was "too complicated" and "required external addons"

[plucky ice]

lol

literal copypaste , go to reforge guy

[narrow narwhal]

We didn't have raid bots back then

[plucky ice]

mrrobot was lit

[narrow narwhal]

We used... Stat weight sims

[modest condor]

with the lack of better tools stat weights were a decent enough approximation

or rather stat priorities

[narrow narwhal]

Dark days

[modest condor]

like even now you can get pretty far by just following mastery > vers > haste > crit

pretty funny that mastery and vers are our best 2 stats

don't see that often

usually it's mastery/haste or vers/crit

[gilded pawn]

We hate 100% crit

[flat sapphire]

that was not

even

close

[restive peak]

Atal free AF this week, just 2 chesterd w our mage only droppin 200k overall LOL

Wish me luck in 26 DHT, we cry

[plucky ice]

simc actually told to use frozen writ, my wallet thanks

[restive peak]

If it's like 200dps don't bother lol

[plucky ice]

like 300 and 5k gold cheaper

[restive peak]

Lol true

[plucky ice]

big versa

[restive peak]

We ball

[clever path]

imagine if it had 3 sockets

like shadowmourne

[restive peak]

I run versa/mast gems

So IDGAF

xD

[clever path]

zen neltharite my beloved

[restive peak]

I hate swapping wep enchants

[rotund ginkgo]

some things need to be memorialized

fun fact: the death count was too big to show all the deaths properly on the pic

[modest condor]

it's not a deplete unless you have more deaths than the keylevel

[clever path]

real

how do you sim phials

[clever path]

and weapon enchants

[rotund ginkgo]

we did

[modest condor]

we did a 25 brh, had a bit of a struggle on the first pull because we werent expecting it to do that many casts, but after that it went very clean

just played it 1 pack at a time and still easy in time

[clever path]

yeah the timer is forgiving

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah it is

but its not if ur aug dies EVERY PULL

[clever path]

fall is too forgiving

[rotund ginkgo]

and releases EVERY PULL

[modest condor]

getting hit by an 850k initial hit on that bleed in the first pull because of bolstering lol

[clever path]

freehold bolstering

[rotund ginkgo]

i did a 25 brh yesterday without even having sound on

[clever path]

pulling 3 enforcers

[rotund ginkgo]

it was a classic dh key "FAST KEY" title

[modest condor]

the change they made to the enforcers was dumb

shattering bellow used to be an interruptible cast on some mobs near the 2nd boss

[clever path]

silm you are a sim mastermind how do i sim different phials and weapon runes

[rotund ginkgo]

quicksim ST 5min

[modest condor]

same place you change all the other settings

[rotund ginkgo]

then just run multiple quicksims with different variations

so long as the remainder of ur gear is the same

fastest/most smooth brain way to do it

[clever path]

is there a way to do an advanced sim cba running it over and over

[terse ether]

Is there a guide on where to use legendary?

[clever path]

like profilesets or osmething

[rotund ginkgo]

probably idk

[clever path]

cause my concern is that running corrupting phial might change a ring or something

same with vers phial

prob overthinking it

[rotund ginkgo]

u are

even if it does change, itll be a minor change

[clever path]

true

brain rot tbh

[rotund ginkgo]

i think sil showed in s1 that he changed literally ALL his gear to wrong stats (crit/vers) and he only simmed like

4k less

[clever path]

19 billion sims

ye

warrior stats

[rotund ginkgo]

its not like aug where u literally DO NOT want vers

its just prio

FAKEN SEND IT BRUV

[clever path]

corrupting sims 300 more at 80% uptime

vers phial it is

[rotund ginkgo]

for me its a 1k diff

so

[clever path]

holy fuck

tepid vers

132 gold

imma grab 1k

of them

they were 1k

[modest condor]

running corrupting rage is troll imo

like there is genuinely no difficult content in the game right now where i think corrupting rage is the right choice

[clever path]

i ran it in keys

[coarse nest]

I tend to agree

[clever path]

never had issues with surviving

[modest condor]

what keylevel?

[coarse nest]

No reason to make healers job harder

[clever path]

24s ish

[coarse nest]

You don’t gain enough to justify it

[balmy shore]

tepid vers gang

[clever path]

25 rise is when i felt like vers would help a lot

[modest condor]

because in high end keys people are literally doing the opposite

they are dropping dps trinkets just to be able to survive

and while in a 24 most things dont 1shot yet, if it happens to overlap with your corrupting rage doing damage, you're just dead completely unnecessarily because if you had run tepid vers you would have 2chested

[clever path]

i have the alchemy thing so its not that much dmg

its still damage

but yeah i agree

tepid is always better and more useful

unless youre doing content that doesnt hurt

like heroic or lower keys

[meager void]

Yeah, tepid is the way in any prog, be it m+ or mythic raid.
On an unrelated note: WTS 200x Corrupting Rage phials

[wanton mirage]

I need extra dmg in pug to stay close to DH and Hunters in dps though.

[modest condor]

reroll dh

[wanton mirage]

[clever path]

stop interrupting

so they die

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry axe surely will catch us up

[wanton mirage]

5head moment

[clever path]

they should let fury dual wield leggo

imagine 2 leggos

2 496 + the effect stacks

still behind dh in m+

[spare otter]

oh what i sim better with vers/mastery food buff

over main stat

[coarse nest]

You mean you don’t see who the spell is being casted on and if it’s not you or the healer you let it go?

[bold osprey]

Mythic First boss go Might instead of rezan?

[winter shoal]

Doesn't matter it's a dumb fight either way

But yeah probs

[floral frigate]

i wouldnt worry about it unless you want to pad

or if killing adds is actually an issue for your group

[fading bane]

Id say its better than Rezan

since you can time it with dmg amp and lust

[winter shoal]

Top logs more commonly use Rezan but r1 uses might, so it probably doesn't matter much

Might for sure better for padding if your group isn't stacked with rogues and dhs who steal all the add dam

[coarse nest]

Yeah definitely run Might on the damage amp bosses

Assuming you align it properly

[jovial rover]

Pad city > wasting time st boss

[bold osprey]

:p

Might time it with first adds then

[winter shoal]

There's so much padding/cheesing bosses this tier zzz

[fading bane]

huh

[clever path]

should prob try simming it as well

[winter shoal]

I'm just salty my boss dam parses are consistently much better than my overall parses

[fading bane]

the only boss you can even pad on is like Gnarlroot

(on mythic)

[winter shoal]

Igira spears, Larry depending on your group comp, TSwift in general, Fyrakk intermission

Tbf my guild is progging Nymue so haven't gotten to some of those on mythic

But it's also cringe on hc

[fading bane]

your cds line up like percetly for Igira

Same on Larodar

you want all the dmg u can on roots for tswift

none of that is padding

[modest condor]

cds dont line up on larodar tbh

[coarse nest]

Smold prog starts tonight for me

[fading bane]

they do if u delay ur 2nd set for like 15 sec

[modest condor]

that's not lining up

[clever path]

i mean

adds have to die

[winter shoal]

Spears are 100% padding, mythic TSwift root damage is actually relevant but hc no shot

[clever path]

and fury is really good at it

moving to vers mastery food

[restive peak]

Root dmg in tswift only matters a few times, you're dispelling them sometimes and the dive bomb smacks them post nerf

[fading bane]

holding ur OF for a long time to use on spears is pad, when it lines up perfectly it isnt

[winter shoal]

92 boss dam parse on Igira but 83 overall bc of spears, thanks blizzard

[fading bane]

if you dispell them, there are treeants to whom the dmg is more relevant to

[restive peak]

I know man, I'm proggin it too, but it's not worth running might and losing a ton of boss dmg

They die extremely fast

[winter shoal]

On hc TSwift I had like an 81 overall with a 96 boss dam parse bc roots die too fast

[fading bane]

ye hc

[fading bane]

ofc not, but u still have cds for each set

[restive peak]

Yeah I was mostly commenting on the might comment

I'm runnin brand/aug for Tswift

[fading bane]

same

[restive peak]

Seems to be the consensus

[ember apex]

spears and roots are 'pad damage' until someone dies in them and RL calls for damage on them which is gonna be every guild eventually b/c there isnt that much passive cleave in the game to deal w/ roots it has to be a thing u deal with

[winter shoal]

Augury is still good multi-target right?

[clever path]

"Your BigWigs is 2 releases out of date!" 🤓

[restive peak]

Augury is baller

On basically everything

[clever path]

• turbo high ilvl

496 is crazy

[jovial rover]

I mean ... Yeah if you have brand / augury why discuss other trinks lol

[clever path]

489 on hc as well

[winter shoal]

This is true but if your roots are up long enough to be a problem on hc your group is trolling, same with spears on mythic

[ember apex]

no im basically talking mythic tindral

[restive peak]

I have 489 rezans too

[ember apex]

u know some ST andy in our guilds is gonna be like oh roots are pad

[restive peak]

And someone was asking about might, if you're at mythic tind and root is all you have....you need to run some stuff

[clever path]

just reply with

🤓 ☝️

[winter shoal]

Yeah I agree it's not really padding on mythic tindral bc root damage is actually important, on hc it's just a cheese fest though. And the problem is the more people who try to pad on roots, the worse it is for everyone lol

[clever path]

or the other hand emote idk

👆

[shadow flame]

hey guys, any ideas on how to use the legendary active around our CDs?

[clever path]

nah its the other one

[restive peak]

The roots die as long as you use CDs, there's no need to run AOE trinkets for roots even on mythic lol

[winter shoal]

I think silm said after ava ends but I could be wrong

[ember apex]

we have https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/941593109316395078.webp?size=48&name=Actually&quality=lossless in my guild discord

[restive peak]

And augury is not what I'd consider an AOE trinket, btw

Shit pumps everywhere

[clever path]

augury is just

ye

[restive peak]

Shit is #5/6 on details in my high keys, it's fucking busted

I want a 496 1 lol

[clever path]

i want one

idc what ilvl

rezans might jail

[winter shoal]

Guild gave hc augury to a warrior who blue parses every fight

[dry talon]

is it possible to sim all runes(hissing,howling,etc) in one time ?

[ember apex]

leggo is 496 ilvl right not augury ilvl?

[restive peak]

I have 489 rezans and tbh regret is

Augury is 496 mythic

[clever path]

both are 496

[ember apex]

ok i actually need that item

[restive peak]

Surely we kill Fyrakk next week

[clever path]

ofc you do

[restive peak]

We really might lol

If Tindral dies Sunday and we extend

[frosty karma]

anyone have t hat tindral flight time WA

[clever path]

496 augury inbound

[fading bane]

https://wago.io/5ogTmoUbk @frosty karma

[raw scarab]

for weapon craft, any difference between axe, mace or sword or just looks?

[ember apex]

recraft what u already have

no diff unless theres an embellish

[frosty karma]

ty

i need this shit fgor that braindead boss

[spare otter]

hmmmm

might or rezans for council?

[clever path]

duck

[coarse nest]

I run rezans since I don’t have augury

[ember apex]

apparently i have literal zug-zug genes

pog

[terse ether]

Should we use the lego during enrage r doesnt matter?

[ember apex]

any other zug-zug dna havers

[meager void]

who plays wow and is a "morning person"?

i cant math it

its unmatheable

[olive wraith]

Enrage doesn’t effect leggo

[wild mural]

This is what I've been waiting for

[terse ether]

I hav enoticed if you charge and then use leggo it stops channeling

perhaps a bug

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure it's because charge is 2 "attacks" in 1

The first being when you actually charge and root, the 2nd being when you get to the target

[ember apex]

me. im a hardcore morning person. 430AM is when i wake up usually

but it only changed b/c i have a german shepherd and thats when he gets up

but it works for me idk

[terse ether]

so perhaps do charge, bt or ww im MT and then use

I am still confused where to use it though 😛

it feels weird 😄

[oblique trail]

As long as it's before or after CDs really you should be fine

But according to Silm on ST at least, it's a very very slight gain to use it after CDs

Instead of doing charge -> use wep -> cds

[ember apex]

every time we talk about leggo usage/optimization i feel denied AF. idk what else i can do to get it besides full clear the raid on all difficulties

[oblique trail]

What you can do is

Play the game, clear the raid, stop thinking about it

[ember apex]

its like leggo havers know some secret tech

and they not sharing it

nah nah nah they know something

[past pivot]

They have luck. It’s RNG

[modest condor]

but benzai he has killed like 100 bosses already

[ember apex]

they have their secrets and they're not gonna share

[oblique trail]

true something must be wrong in that case

[ember apex]

yeah bonzai

[oblique trail]

guess it's just skill issue

your problem

I got it from my first kill

so if you can't get it from 100 then just stop playing at that point maybe?

[ember apex]

nah if i dont get it this tier ill get it for transmog

[jovial coral]

Oh man

[ember apex]

idc what anyone says

[jovial coral]

stop thinking I think you're asking too much benzi

[raw scarab]

If you were going to macro in a 2min trinket, would you put it on reck, but would lose uses, or something like odyns?

[urban coral]

Hey guys, what sim option do you use for M+? Patchwerk, Dungeon Slice, etc?

[ember apex]

id have it on a seperate button

i use patchwerk +4 targets 5 total and go off that

[oblique trail]

thinking has caused my brain to overheat on an hourly basis

[oblique trail]

For Fury, Patchwerk 5 min 1 target generally because of how Fury's cleave works, and whatever sims best for ST will generally speaking almost always be equally as good in AoE

[floral bough]

yo guys, how do you sim stuff for m+ ?

[oblique trail]

For Arms, Dungeon Slice should work fine since Deswind put work into it

[floral bough]

fuck im blind, i got the answer above

sorry

[oblique trail]

Only exception would be crit having more value in AoE compared to ST, but don't think to the point of it being something you'd change multiple items around for

[sudden tusk]

no orange tuesdays

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898695696482305/1161170594130317455/gun-to-head-nodding.gif?ex=65375363&is=6524de63&hm=801d77b654668a14cb515e4ab99d11021c1821ff68b70887485fe3490066cf57&

[atomic yarrow]

what are some stats we want to reach haste wise?

[oblique trail]

There are no specific stat %'s or ratings you have to or want to reach for Fury

Simply simming yourself in top gear on raidbots will give you your answers

[clever path]

maybe crit and i are matching now

[jovial coral]

Don't listen to this Bnazi heretic

60% haste is all you need

[oblique trail]

I will make your online and real life presence disappear immediately

[frigid zealot]

your pfp makes me happy, kakacarrot cake.

[atomic yarrow]

MOAR HASTEEEE

[merry rivet]

hey guys to make our crafted clock were using shadowflame-tempered armor patch right?

[urban creek]

hey guys, should i always sim for patchwerk? even if its add week and im playing m+ mostly?

[atomic yarrow]

I ALWAYS get this answer but not precisely know how or whether im doing it right. wouldnt sm weight be stronger? or droptimiser?

[oblique trail]

Weights are very easy to misunderstand, and top gear gives you the best stats to work with, with what you got on you

[astral path]

Is there a guide on how to sim properly? I kind just wing it and hope for the best

[oblique trail]

Droptimiser works however to get a good look at items that'd be better compared to what you have now

But baseline, any gear with mastery will be fine

As for how to sim yourself, there are guides on icy veins or wowhead for it, but on the phone rn so can't really type out a long instruction on how to do and read the results of sims properly

[teal sable]

Do you prio Execute over Rampage even if you're not running the Ashen Jugg talent like in Raid Cleave or M+ ?

[oblique trail]

The gist of it is basically, pick items you think will make sense to compare, and the gems/enchants that make sense, like mastery + x stat gems

[modest condor]

there's a link to a guide on icyveins in #268491842637660160

[teal sable]

Yes?

[coarse nest]

Yes?

[quaint stag]

Critcake made a good guide on his YouTube channel the other day

[teal sable]

Do you prio Execute over Rampage even without Ashen Jugg?

[coarse nest]

You don’t prio execute over rampage

You execute when you can’t bloodbath or rampage

[terse ether]

haha, thaks 😛

[unreal onyx]

no leggo

who would've guessed

[split coyote]

We just started progging on m Nymue and convinced rl I go on first mythic add. Do you just leap in or gate? Or is there some cool tech to get there?

[meager void]

you shouldnt rush there without your assigned group, specially the healer.

leap or gate count as "fast movement" with mechs in Mewmew

like left and right add, follow the grass with your group

[split coyote]

All right I'll do that. Thanks

[restive peak]

You're just waiting for we can get it together next week

[vague sand]

unless ashen jugg and massacre

[restive peak]

You still weave it in around those

[vague sand]

then exe > rampage > bb dont you?

[wary fjord]

Nah, still same prio

[restive peak]

Pretty sure exe is only prio > those if you may drop stacks

[wary fjord]

But still do execute to keep the buff up

Ye

[restive peak]

But your rotation becomes Ramp>BB>Exec>Rampage>BB

Anyway

[vague sand]

^

[restive peak]

Exec phase feels amazing this tier

[vague sand]

it is pretty good

[wary fjord]

Yeah, feels good

[coarse nest]

execute phase you have room to execute after every blood bath right?

[vague sand]

Arms feels better tho, going dead last to mid of the pack with one ability is nuts

[delicate idol]

With the Massacre CDR, yes

[tacit crag]

In execute fyrakk with blood lust do you ignore execute to spam rampage > bb?

[unreal onyx]

2 lesser embers in 6 hc kills

pretty good rate

[restive peak]

😦

[split coyote]

I would assume so since you don't have AJ stacks because you're running ww

[vague sand]

if u arent running ashen jugg and massacre I'd say yeah

[tacit crag]

That's what I believe as well

[vague sand]

0 lessers in 2 full HC weeks, feeling extra unlucky

[clever path]

nah but the head enchant is insane

on st

[tacit crag]

I don't own a rezans but I feel like from all the parses I've seen with it, it caps at like 4% where as signet and augury I see consistently above 4%. Is rezans just not as good as those two in any fight? Is it there's a time length based encounter where I plays better?

[crystal summit]

signet+augury are better but rezan's is farmable, while the other 2 are a once/week chance at dropping (or in vault). my group has only seen 1 heroic signet so far

[old dust]

Is there a build for M+ if I just leveled my warrior and still dont have tier?

[chrome summit]

is it possible see / track the luck shit for legendary?

[coarse nest]

Their is a chat script out there but I don’t have it off hand currently

[indigo quarry]

its just to count how many token you got right ?

[coarse nest]

Yes how many youve used so far

[indigo quarry]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/embers-of-fyralath-bad-luck-protection-items-dropping-in-amirdrassil-336417?webhook @chrome summit

in this news

[rotund steppe]

i still believe the token are placebo

[indigo quarry]

/dump C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(2784)

its showing me i got 6 of them

[tepid scroll]

Anyone else have other melee dps they enjoy. Obv fury is my favorite but thinking of an alt. I enjoy the press your buttons and there is the damage vs ramp specs like sin rogue. Was thinking a ret paladin?

[sullen tendon]

where can i get an extra 7k dps

[tepid scroll]

Augury over pips probably

[indigo quarry]

why are you simming 1min30 ?

[sullen tendon]

dungeon pack

[indigo quarry]

pretty much pointless

[sullen tendon]

let me hear it

[errant vessel]

idk why people say that

[left perch]

st 1t5m, mt 5t1.5m

ez

[errant vessel]

it's only 5t 5min that's useless

[sullen tendon]

saying simming a dungeon pack is pointless when its easier to line up with a perfect sim in a shorter period of time

imagien trying to match a perfect sim on a 5 min cleave fight

[eternal sundial]

week 3 no lego

[indigo quarry]

if your tank pull 5 adds by 5

and each 1min30

wtf is he doing ?

[sullen tendon]

its in a key higher than 22

[finite salmon]

branch trinket any good?

[sullen tendon]

for st

it does a goodchunk everynow and then

[grand condor]

Just need to confirm something, if both Bloodbath and Rampage are higher priority than execute, that means I realistically never touch execute during cooldowns because at that point my bloodbath generates rampages anyway, any I only hit execute outside of recklessness when I need the rage?

[sullen tendon]

i just hit execute if i need rage

[grand condor]

Feels bad sitting on those sudden death procs

[sullen tendon]

execute doesnt feelgood on fury

it didnt feel goodin 10.0 and it doesnt feel good now

[covert coyote]

Yeah I lose SD procs regularly. Just not worth pressing unless you’re about to drop AJ 5 stack

[tight igloo]

I don't even track aj because more bloodbath is more better

[unreal onyx]

surely you take 1.5min per pack in a dungeon and have every buff + bl

[rigid stirrup]

god if we took 1.5min a pack i'd just leave

[sullen tendon]

with that logiic weshould just not sim

fuck sims right

[rigid stirrup]

honestly

yeah fuck sims tbh

[sullen tendon]

tell everyone to sim it and then say fuck the sims

[rigid stirrup]

just play good

[jade onyx]

Jsut went to a +20 group and the fury warior had done more dps than anyone at an overall of 220k dps. How fury can do that much damage? The guy left before I could ask .

[unreal onyx]

the sim is just straight no accurate by that logic

since basically all our dmg is just ST abilities being cleaved to more targets it would be more accurate to sim 1T and go from there

except trinkets

[covert coyote]

Gear+class knowledge

[rigid stirrup]

At some point sims wont matter for M+ because at some point you get all the routes/pulls down and you'll have all your CD timings memorized for key moments

so just play game and dont sweat the sims

[gilded pawn]

Dungeon route sims

Pog

[sullen tendon]

im simming based on using all big cooldowns at once and just blowingup a pack

[unreal onyx]

then the pack shouldn't take 1.5min

[sullen tendon]

its not that complicated

[gilded pawn]

Haste is your worst stat

Pog

[sullen tendon]

it should take that long if its fortified bolstering

on a high key

[rigid stirrup]

maybe just play the game more and stop simming idk

shits dumb after a certain point imo

[quartz viper]

1.5m w/ all CDs and BL? How the hell are you doing the rest of the dungeon then? Lol.

[sullen tendon]

i think its not that simming is dumb i think its that people like being critics and offer no input

[unreal onyx]

I literally voiced my opinion

[rigid stirrup]

what input is there to give?

you seem to know it all

[sullen tendon]

how aboput the simple response to "how would you sim it?"

[unreal onyx]

I never said my opinion was correct

I said that

[glad tangle]

I usually get around this number but I feel like a big part of it is I have augury. And I don’t die.

[unreal onyx]

I even explained why I would sim that way

[rigid stirrup]

selective hearing is crazy

[sullen tendon]

its not just you dude

post anything thats not elite min maxed and people go nuts

[quartz viper]

It's not about min-max.

[rigid stirrup]

I dont even click the sims people put out

if you play the game more you'll be better

sims don't do anything besides give you a baseline of gear to go for

[sullen tendon]

its not about being better its about what gear i can get to get bigger numbers

[quartz viper]

Just don't see the value of simming for one 1.5m trash pack when you have the rest of the dungeon lol.

[frosty karma]

@fading bane do you have SEEDS DONE weakaura too by any chance, saw in a couple streams with loud tts voice

[ember coyote]

got my furry war to 463 now and its startign to pump, also got a 4 set. but... ive got soem bad weapons, cant seem to get any weapon drops, are crafted weapons a good shout?

[rigid stirrup]

crafted weapons

are never the play

thiss eason

[pliant berry]

Ur making me lose brain cells plz stop harming me

[sullen tendon]

im going to be doing less damage anyways inbetween packs

i should only sim for hte packs i know im gonna have all ym cooldowns

[ember coyote]

so i guess i keep hopign a weapon drops?

[quartz viper]

Well, yeah of course you'll do less with your CDs on CD. The way you're wording makes it sounds like you should just use your CDs then go afk till they are back up lol.

[clever path]

same

[fading bane]

got one that says remaining ones

it just goes away when all are soaked

[clever path]

well its bad if you have access to myth track weapons

sa they can go up to 489

and dont cost 2 sparks

[rigid stirrup]

NEVER

[sullen tendon]

thats basically waht fury warriors do

we just spam meat claeaver until avatar and reck is back

[ember coyote]

atm im bustign out i level 440 and 430 2 hands while i got 470/480 gear lol

[clever path]

i mean

do you need the damage now

[quartz viper]

Ok. You do you then.

[clever path]

if you dont just farm them out

if you are raiding you can get a myth one from gnarlroot

and he is easier than last 2 hc bosses

[tidal kindle]

Dm me d2

[clever path]

maybe even easier than smolderon hc

[tidal kindle]

[hasty path]

He is absolutely not lmao what

[velvet basalt]

Does it make sense to macro OF and Avatar together?

[fading bane]

mid pupll

[clever path]

no

[quartz viper]

No

[clever path]

you want to spread them out

[hasty path]

Heroic tindral is a free boss

[tidal kindle]

I can see m gnarl easier than fyrakk H

[fickle bluff]

no thaats actually one of the worst things you can do

[clever path]

so is gnarlroot

i went a bit too much

i take it back

[tidal kindle]

Maybe not tindy

[clever path]

but its def easier tha nfyrakk

[velvet basalt]

What is a logical macro to use after popping OF?

[clever path]

i mean its a really cool first boss ngl

[hasty path]

I would agree that volc is easier than the last 2 H

But gnarlroot and igira are both harder imo

[tidal kindle]

M volc should be first boss

Gnarl 2nd

Igi 3rd

Imo

[hasty path]

Agreed

[clever path]

wasnt volc overtuned as fuck on the ptr

[hasty path]

Igira is a very good early boss imo

[clever path]

and there were giga hard hps dps checks

[tidal kindle]

Volc is like

Patchwerk for melee

Sadlife for ranged

[cosmic adder]

good

[hasty path]

As it should be

[clever path]

i stg volc was hard on ptr

due to checks

[hasty path]

Well ptr is irrelevant so

[velvet basalt]

OF > As Avatar about to expire pop >Avatar + Recklessness + Trinket macro?

[clever path]

so on 460 you had to play perfect

[hasty path]

🤷‍♂️

[clever path]

i mean imo they shouldve kept him that way

he deals 0 damage

now

[frosty karma]

i have one like that already, but thanks anyway

[clever path]

compared to ptr

[unreal onyx]

484.44 ilvl equipped now

[hasty path]

He’s a 3rd boss

And leads into one of the first semi difficult bosses of the tier

Although maybe it was due to gear but imo Larodar was much easier than Nymue

Despite people saying otherwise

[unreal onyx]

we hit volcoross enrage on our first kill

[clever path]

smolderon is tough but i like sitting in rings with enraged regen

in spear

[old dust]

Is there a build for M+ if I just leveled my warrior and still dont have tier?

[clever path]

t30 build

[hasty path]

Inshallah we reclear fast and kill Smolderon tonight

Then Tswift jail begins

[unreal onyx]

is that safe

[clever path]

[unreal onyx]

or edging

[old dust]

t30 buiild works without any tier?

[clever path]

yes

[clever path]

somewhat

i spread my drs

enraged regen while in ring

[hasty path]

We gettin there

[clever path]

then after it ends

[hasty path]

Just need to build consistency

[clever path]

i sr dstance or just sr

depends if im getting healed or not

usually just SR + iv

[velvet basalt]

What should I be using after the opening OF?

[clever path]

you are underestimating our hps in defensives

[unreal onyx]

I am

[clever path]

you are basically healing for half of your hp bar every other global for 8 seconds

with a 40% dr on top

[hasty path]

The ring kinda hurts tho

Even on brew

[clever path]

critcake did it as well

i mean if you need that ER somewhere

then dont do it

cause u are giving up a big personal

for more damage

[eternal sundial]

@oblique trail i beat ur smolderon ty for tech

good timers

[plucky ice]

what timer

[indigo quarry]

its to pop the orbs further and get better timing for burst

[unreal onyx]

the odd tech of getting knocked far to have spear back up when soaking orbs

[indigo quarry]

on first KB you can only get so much

like 10-12 depending on luck

[clever path]

your opener is turbo scuffed as well

u jsut send everything instantly

[plucky ice]

gotta go fast

bro i need lege on sunday and augur, over 230k sim

[unreal onyx]

I need lego next week

surely I will get it

got a greater + 2 lesser embers this week

[wispy thistle]

how much blp do you have total @unreal onyx

[clever path]

nah blizz is edging me

i wont get heroic augury ever

[tidal kindle]

Bro ive gotten greater every week and 7 lessers

[chilly fractal]

Same

[unreal onyx]

idk, I think 2 greater now and like 8 lesser

[clever path]

im literally

[tidal kindle]

Watch me still be last to get lego

[clever path]

highest prio on it

[tidal kindle]

[clever path]

but it jsut doesnt drop

[flat sapphire]

So for augiury I simmed the gear compare and it is only a 0.5 or 1.7% upgrade for me is that really correct cause i have a 476 rezan and 483 might just seems a bit low

[clever path]

0 drops on both nm and heroic?????

[clever path]

at 489 its much better

[eternal sundial]

i was unaware of spear on pull tech so i will credit him

[chilly fractal]

Last week before looting the legendary I had 6 lessers and a greater from the prior week. I had looted 4 lessers just last week

[clever path]

placebo

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uWfVU3eTX6puBKJ55eQ8d7

even without leggo my sims are pretty good

[oblique chasm]

You got lucky imo then with just one greater.

That is rng tho

[eternal sundial]

i sim 2k more than u

[frosty karma]

my dk lootet it 13 days ago with 1 lesser consumed, its just rng nothing elses to itr

[flat sapphire]

yea thats what im simming

[eternal sundial]

and 10 below lego havers

[unreal onyx]

variance

[flat sapphire]

ill show you sime

[plucky ice]

220k without augur atm

[clever path]

weird tbf 1.7% is a lot

[flat sapphire]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s7nCZNJPC8YEBQGbRqrwkA

[clever path]

i mean 3.4k is a lot

[eternal sundial]

I didnt get augury from hc but i got 489 eye so idk

[clever path]

what eye

[unreal onyx]

rezan

[weak oxide]

maybe a silly question or a question were the answer doesnt matter 😄 but what is the range of the whirlwind cleave to other targets?

[clever path]

oh

[flat sapphire]

3k dps is a lot for that trinket?

[unreal onyx]

augury fuck good

[eternal sundial]

[oblique chasm]

dogshit lmao. I think it is 8yrds

[unreal onyx]

I will only have 1 myth but 2 hc raid slots in vault next week

[clever path]

i mean you are comparing a 483 to a 489 and its 3.4k better

and unlike signet

[unreal onyx]

surely hc augury angle

[clever path]

doesnt need 19 million years

to stack

and

on top of that

it doesnt lose value in aoe

[flat sapphire]

fair fair

I will just need to convince my loot council

when other people in my guild barely done m+

[clever path]

iirc only dh wants it more maybe thats changed after the changes

[plucky ice]

its bis you should get it

[oblique chasm]

Signet overrated unless you're doing long Prog fights.

[flat sapphire]

its bis for a lot of people

no?

[clever path]

ye but its more than bis for us

convince ur officers

bribe them

[eternal sundial]

mine goes off of sims so i wont get augury since it sims dps loss

[oblique chasm]

What happens when you have two fury warriors? and dh's lmao

[velvet basalt]

Is reck supposed to be used before OF?

[hasty path]

Augury is giga rng

[clever path]

rig them

sim 5 targets

[eternal sundial]

i will need a written note that its good

[hasty path]

You find a guild without a stupid comp

[eternal sundial]

[oblique chasm]

You reck then charge, so you can rampage and get enraged before using OF

[eternal sundial]

RA = 50 rage on reck

[clever path]

you gap them and u get augury hopefully

[hasty path]

Give me their address I’ll make sure you get it

🙂

[clever path]

• 40 from charge

• autoattack

[velvet basalt]

Then I wait til Ava bout to expire and pop that with trinket and pot?

[clever path]

no

[chilly fractal]

Augury I think sims most for me in my guild aside from our other Fury but his 2nd trinket is a non upgraded snake trinket and I’m using a 483 Rezan

[clever path]

might and pot before first of

reck charge ramp onuse+pot+of

[oblique chasm]

prepot on pull, reck+ charge, rampage, trinket+OF, then yes recast avatar when other small avatar buff drops

[velvet basalt]

Can on use, pot and of be macroed together?

[clever path]

keep in mind it pots on pull cause its a sim

you want to pot right before of

to maximize it

[oblique chasm]

It can be, but that might screw you on a couple of fights that last longe nough for 2nd pot

[clever path]

why

we have like 6 buttons

anyway

just bind it somewhere

[oblique chasm]

Just bind pot to like Shift something ez to hit.

My pot is shift +1

[hasty path]

My might of the ocean is bound to avatar

[clever path]

Been stuck with these trinkets forever

ran atal 30 times

[clever path]

i wouldnt do that

you want to use might earlier

since the last 5 or so seconds of avatar are useless

[hasty path]

I want to die but we don’t get what we want always

[plucky ice]

might is on reck ez

[clever path]

i have it on T

[oblique chasm]

My might is on a normal bind

e

z

[clever path]

as it should

[chilly fractal]

I don’t have a might

[oblique chasm]

Do you have an OF?

[chilly fractal]

Odyn’s Fans

[oblique chasm]

I have an OH. An Only Hoove's

[weak vapor]

what enchant head ?:P

[clever path]

1.9%

[weak vapor]

i mean name enchant head?

is that emblished?

[ember coyote]

is fury stronger than arms atm?

[clever path]

incandescet essence no

you get it from the raid quest

[clever path]

depends

st i think they are pretty close

even with fury favored gear arms isnt far behind

for me

raid is just fury favored

apart from council

fury can talent into both st and aoe

arms cant

well arms can just not fury level

even if arms did for most of these fights it would do 0 damage

u need burst

[coarse nest]

Wo you can do this on mobile!? Nice

[clever path]

arms has none

[rugged hornet]

quick question, can you Cancelaura macro the on use part of the leggo axe?

[fast crest]

i dont raid in mythic but seems they didnt design any encounters with a solid execute phase? or consistent 2 target cleave outside council (which is iffy as it is)

[inner sonnet]

does legendary get buffed by something like enrage? or CDs?

[chilly fractal]

Fyrakk P3 on Mythic looks like it’ll be a lot of fun

[rugged hornet]

i know haste and crit

[chilly fractal]

Only use it when you have nothing to use pretty much

[inner sonnet]

thought so, but was wondering if I need to track something for it at all

[chilly fractal]

Nope

[inner sonnet]

enrage or whatever

cool

[chilly fractal]

I send it when the wind is fair my CDs aren’t up, and I’m about to hit Slam or Whirlwind for rage

The wind being fair is when a mechanic or something isn’t going to fuck me

[north edge]

is the fyrakk tank trinket a good trinekt for fury?

have seen some people wearing it, although idk if thats just to survive one shots

[shut summit]

Hi guys!
Can someone solve this misery for me? We have a warri dude who taunted the boss (as dps). The issue is that my dude has literally no macros and taunt is not on actionbar, not even on hidden action bars. How could this happen?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bGJkwzvLZN17mFCc#type=casts&boss=2824&difficulty=4&wipes=1&ability=355&source=5
Here is the log

[ember apex]

if u want to survive 1shots wear the prophetic scales trinket

[silent burrow]

by having it on a bar and pressing it lol

[ember apex]

manually typed /cast
Pressed P pressed taunt from spell book
Deleted macro after pressing it the third time

[compact knot]

i think that means he pressed it

[ember apex]

he didnt "press" it for sure

he could have typed /cast taunt

and taunted

[shut summit]

I checked him on stream

[ember apex]

requiring 0 presses

[silent burrow]

lol

[shut summit]

so i have 0 clue what could he mess up

[ember apex]

his macro book is completely empty ur saying?

[compact knot]

its impossible to use taunt without typing, clicking or pressing

[silent burrow]

This isn't some mystery ghost issue

he pressed taunt lol

[shut summit]

indeed

[ember apex]

he didnt neccessarily press it

[silent burrow]

Maybe unintentionally, but he pressed it lol

[shut summit]

he

has NO taunt button on the action bar

[silent burrow]

I mean clearly, it exists somewhere

[shut summit]

not even on action bars that are turned off

yes that's what i thought and spent time to check all this possibilites

[compact knot]

its physically impossible to taunt a mob without pressing the button

[shut summit]

so there is no

talent or shit for it right?

[silent burrow]

no

[shut summit]

I am not warrior just can't figure out

[compact knot]

no talent

[shut summit]

okay

[compact knot]

can you send me the stream perchance

[dim spindle]

Nope, draught of souls was fun as hell but also the death knell of procs/trinkets stacking with damage % bonuses

[left perch]

he has it on a bar somewhere

[dim spindle]

Fun while it lasted though

[shut summit]

"You are stupid you 100% pressed it" was my first idea too

[left perch]

you can bind keys and hide the action bar and forget about it

[shut summit]

he streamed on discord sadly

[compact knot]

ah

[silent burrow]

If there is a damage amp phase of the boss, it will take more damage from all sources. including trinkets and weapons

[fading bane]

inshallah

[shut summit]

yes I thought but we turned ALL his action bars active and nothing

[left perch]

Sounds like he’s trolling ngl

[silent burrow]

It exists somewhere lol

Or did

[left perch]

that’s just not a bug that only 1 player has

[silent burrow]

and now doesn't lol

[dim spindle]

gratz

[left perch]

gz d2

[ebon junco]

gz

did you beat me

or

did u slack

[dim spindle]

did he drop anything sexy

[left perch]

doubt

Tmy king of brown

[ebon junco]

[compact knot]

is the tindral pad build viable on mythic

[shell jackal]

it's not quite Tindral

[compact knot]

💀

[fading bane]

[shell jackal]

but it's something

[ebon junco]

what was it?

[left perch]

oh shit new king

[ebon junco]

Our was 07:02

[fading bane]

07:00

[dim spindle]

What's the rush, the fun is in the journey!

toxic elite 1% all about rush rush rush

[ebon junco]

Not even 330k on meters 🥱

@fading bane

[dim spindle]

nerf rouges

[shell jackal]

how many pulls did ya'll have on Nymue?

guilds about to do our first pull

[heavy folio]

is it possible that I simm 214 fury ST and only 205 with ww nodes?

9k diff

[dim spindle]

219k vs 309k... that's kinda wild. almost 40%

30%, whatever

[glad valve]

Is double on-use a play for M+ ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w9mq6FokT68JLihJBJ8J3V

[ebon junco]

that p3

[dim spindle]

nvm it is almost 40%. Goodness

[fading bane]

ye

boss dmg overall

i forgor pot on cds p3

so i sent with a OF

[ebon junco]

slackin p3 dmg

[dim spindle]

Poor gormy

[compact knot]

yeah??

i mean id hope so lmao

dropping single target talents for aoe talents in a single target environment shouldnt be a dps increase id hope

or are you talking about dungeon slice

because that also makes sense too

[silver mantle]

Guys, when does this patch end?

[fading bane]

when blizzard says it does

we dont know

[heavy folio]

nah, the diffrence should be less, just had some scuffed tanlets

[unreal onyx]

not the best but at least I got rid of 2 shit logs

[astral path]

End of xpac right?

[covert blaze]

no

[silver mantle]

Couse we have fated season 4

[covert blaze]

we're getting fated again

[silver mantle]

Since I didn't get leggo this week either, and probably not next week either, Im wondering when I get it will I even have enough time to actually play it before patch ends

[astral path]

Wdym

Isn’t it last raid of xpac?

[covert blaze]

well yes but actually no

[unreal onyx]

surely we can buy leggo with dinars in s4

[past pivot]

You have a long time.

[true sapphire]

If they don't give us a fourth season and just extend S3 for a year and a half they're gonna lose a lot of players lol

[covert blaze]

you have months to go

[silver mantle]

Ok and if I don't have the legendary yet, do I save my superbloom bags or is that not how it works?

[astral path]

Nice

I hope legendary stays competitive in s4

🙏

[unreal onyx]

we'll most likely get a upgraded version

[past pivot]

I hope it stays competitive in s3 by the time I can get it and craft it

[unreal onyx]

I assume

with just ilvl bump

didn't the sylvanas bow also got that treatment?