are these the only three trinkets I need in my life
#fury
whole marsh
oblique trail
Basically yeah
whole marsh
throne might took like 30 runs
midnight cairn
Ngl I like throne.
whole marsh
it grew on me
but my eyes were crossing after 2 straight days of running it for might
midnight cairn
This week has been... Interesting
pliant berry
This week has been... Interesting
💀
midnight cairn
The worst part was missing out on the spell reflect.
pliant berry
The worst part was missing out on the spell reflect.
yea kinda like WM 4th boss lol
ember apex
the worst part about missing a hard cast spell reflect is u see something like this water bolt cast at u. then u get excited that u can reflect the cast back for an ez 1M dmg. then u press spell reflect, it gets triggered u look at the cast u realize that there's 0.25sec left on the cast and it triggered to some other minor RNG mechanic and then u die
the totem boss in throne of tides rewards spamming spell reflect b/c flame shock dot reflect is rng
errant pond
if you do Fyrakk LFR you still have a chance for leggo in normal and hero right
fading bane
TL;DR: If you kill HC Fyrakk, there is 0 gain for doing Normal or LFR
covert void
When you slap in a pug and no ones logging it 
solar forum
https://i.imgur.com/rAVLUR0.png I kinda expected it to be a bigger upgrade.. :/
ember apex
sim ur upgrades at max upgrades
thats what ur gonna do anyways
whats thsi 470 nonsense
pliant berry
whats thsi 470 nonsense
might be out of crests and have low rings
solar forum
yeah
oblique trail
The DHT ring generally speaking is one of the best rings Fury can get this season
ember apex
dht stands for darkheart thicket in this context
oblique trail
So if it sims low for you, it's likely because you already got a ton of mastery from other pieces
oblique trail
Yes
spare otter
too much crit :/
oblique trail
But
ember apex
why are u equipping that much crit
oblique trail
They're only the best 2 rings assuming full bis
midnight cairn
Last season I never got myth track rings so I eventually went double crafted.
ember apex
stop bis rolling on crit gear lmao
spare otter
bruh
pliant berry
They're only the best 2 rings assuming full bis
ye ik
oblique trail
The best 2 rings can differ quite a bit, and even then they should all be quite close to each other
barren vapor
The DHT ring generally speaking is one of the best rings Fury can get this seaso...
it's so good that the sim made me take it over 470 ring
spare otter
idk how its that high tbh
midnight cairn
Wait, y'all don't aim for 30% Crit after buffs?
barren vapor
i mean champion track
ember apex
lulw
oblique trail
Ilvl on rings aren't as important as it is on mainstat pieces
Because of the secondaries being much higher on jewelry
barren vapor
i can see
pliant berry
Wait, y'all don't aim for 30% Crit after buffs?
vers too good lol but yeah 30% aint bad
ember apex
i wish fury was just vers/haste so i could just stand in mechanics more
oblique trail
You're already going mast/vers
crystal summit
why would haste allow you to stand in mechs more
ember apex
vers because of the DR
midnight cairn
Every sim I did said that getting Crit up to 30% was ideal, and then go other stuff
crystal summit
but we already want vers
pliant berry
why would haste allow you to stand in mechs more
more hps
naive summit
when's the best time to look for a raiding guild
ember apex
i want to be like 40% vers so i can run a cheat death trinket and just enjoy life
pre-expansion or after a raid tier
oblique trail
when's the best time to look for a raiding guild
Early season typically
But now's basically as good as any as well
dire vigil
I’ve been enjoying the pivot from haste to vers. Big damage on hits, less spammy, however my casts/minute in Heroic Fyrakk still dwarfed every other class last night
solar forum
so signet of titatnic onslaught +dht arent the best? is it worth crafting the ring still? i double that ill be able to kill igira mythic as i am not in a guild
ember apex
i started playing in shadowlands
and i hit up a bunch of guilds after i saw the trailer
and i got into a CE guild
randomly
thru that
oblique trail
so signet of titatnic onslaught +dht arent the best? is it worth crafting the ri...
Crafted ring + DHT will carry you for a long long time
solar forum
Crafted ring + DHT will carry you for a long long time
gotcha
fading sky
Crafted ring is almost bis though😅
ember apex
sweat smile lmao
dire vigil
I have the AD ring alongside Mast Vers crafted ring. So much verse, and countered well with the heroic Tindral neck with a shit ton of mastery and a little haste
oblique trail
The Igira ring might be slightly better than a crafted ring if you got both Augury and Signet brand however
clever path
the dmg difference is very small but vers is a much more useful stat
dire vigil
Crafted ring is a built in socket though. Socketed 486 > 489
rain heart
I have been running a bunch of sims. Guides recomend Sophic/Wafting but sims are saying Earthen Writ is the best weapon enchant. Would that be because I am overly high on haste vs whomever wrote the guide?
zenith brook
Yes
ember apex
but link it anyways
deep zinc
That’s crazy wtf
oblique trail
I have been running a bunch of sims. Guides recomend Sophic/Wafting but sims are...
Likely due to the amount of haste you have yeah
solar forum
breached the 230k mark
is it dungeon slice?
spare otter
link ur sim
oblique trail
I'm sitting at 30% natural haste and I've had Earthen writ sim the best for a while
spare otter
im not linking
meager gyro
LINK the SIM you cooked ham
ember apex
yeah sick
spare otter
i aint exposing myself to you degens
zenith brook
😂
rain heart
Likely due to the amount of haste you have yeah
That makes sense, thank you
pliant berry
i aint exposing myself to you degens
💀
spare otter
bro how do you cheese a sim 💀
rotund ginkgo
UwU
arctic stone
~~throne~~ might took like 30 runs
fyrakk might took like 30 runs also, didnt see any augur in loot
clever path
lets go an another greater ember
meager gyro
double wafting, this is a 3min sim
ember apex
set to 4 mins, give stuff 100% uptime, crank ilvl on pieces. theres lots of ways
what do u mean
clever path
leggo next week 
spare otter
idk man i just default 5 min 1 target
clever path
230k should be easily doable
dusky pulsar
patchwerk 10 targets 30 second sim with a 3-5 min on use trinket
clever path
head enchant is like 6k
ember apex
then link ur sim
ember apex
oh wow i wonder what that is
rain heart
Another question if anyone knows. I have seen a bunch of people take Bloodcraze over Slaughtering Strikes for mythic +. Does the sim change based on gear or is this a playstyle choice as Slaughtering sims better
oblique trail
It wont change your sim too much, but BC is basically more ST damage, while Slaughtering is more AoE
south kayak
Some idiot boomie decided to roll need on an augury i would have won just so he can sell it to someone paying gold
rotund ginkgo
ok Zemasu
clever path
cringe
south kayak
fucking moron
clever path
find him irl
mellow crow
ya lmao 230 is easily doable, im at 223 w/ 2 483 weapons still and a ton of non myth track sh it
meager gyro
Some idiot boomie decided to roll need on an augury i would have won just so he ...
I guess buy it then
rotund ginkgo
? are u seriously asking that?
spare otter
yea im baffled
rotund ginkgo
??
dusky pulsar
head enchant is like 6k
it simmed 9k for me
rain heart
It wont change your sim too much, but BC is basically more ST damage, while Slau...
thank you
rotund ginkgo
u literally are in like 15 boosting servers
spare otter
awh fuck i got the same thing wtf
gz bro
rotund ginkgo
use ur brain
devout totem
shit vault today, got a gems on a ring
clever path
it simmed 9k for me
whats ur helm ilvl?
apparently it scales with helm ilvl and mine is 489 so idk
south kayak
why are people such fucking dipships
clever path
simmed 6k for a lot of people here
oblique trail
At best it simmed 6k for me
mellow crow
483 helm it was 6k for me
dusky pulsar
whats ur helm ilvl?
483
ember apex
i need legendary helm
spare otter
i've got a fan
south kayak
I HATE BALANCE DRUIDS
mellow crow
no way man went through all the boosting servers looking for my name
it takes 4 seconds to look at shared servers and your nickname in all of th em
clever path
I HATE BALANCE DRUIDS
gromnak clip
dusty aspen
should I be running TR or spear? the rotation page has TR under the season3 talents, but the season3 talent build still has spear in it?
south kayak
oxli azfygduhQUZGKFH
dusky pulsar
simmed 6k for a lot of people here
I lied it was an AOE sim
oblique trail
should I be running TR or spear? the rotation page has TR under the season3 tal...
You'd run Spear on Volcoross, Nymue and Smolderon
Every other scenario you'd run Roar
And even then, if you absolutely despise Spear, you can run Roar at a very minor loss (1.2%~)
clever path
roar isnt much behind
meager gyro
no way man went through all the boosting servers looking for my name
you call yourself hamy b/c you been cooking sims for decades admit it
clever path
And even then, if you absolutely despise Spear, you can run Roar at a very minor...
and thats assuming 100% EM uptime
dusty aspen
i have tanks who like to dance so I usually run TR 😛
spare otter
you call yourself hamy b/c you been cooking sims for decades admit it
take the link man
TAKE IT
oblique trail
Although if anything I'd recommend using Spear still for Smolderon, because a lot of your damage is condensed in the small window every intermission
solar forum
no way man went through all the boosting servers looking for my name
is his sim legit?
meager gyro
4 mins 
narrow narwhal
Fury fuck good.
ember apex
fuck dude
spare otter
you guys are obsessed 💀
south kayak
why does this happen to me
clever path
meager gyro
you guys are obsessed 💀
have my ass babies
solar forum
@spare otter Hm did u sim without the axe?
south kayak
why did i lose a roll to a degenerate boomie who just wanted to sell it
spare otter
<@199547708116041730> Hm did u sim without the axe?
lemme check 1 sec
oblique trail
that's just how pugs are
oblique trail
It's cringe but not much you can do about it
solar forum
why did i lose a roll to a degenerate boomie who just wanted to sell it
Hm he sell it for?
pliant berry
kek
solar forum
If i got it id prolly sell it too lol 1m would be way more than enough to never be poor in wwo again
spare otter
<@199547708116041730> Hm did u sim without the axe?
218k lol
oblique trail
Why are you tagging me in this
spare otter
5% yea
oblique trail
The past 3 resets now I've lost multiple Brand rolls and an Augury roll to Billybobs doing 5k dps
Eventually you get used to it
solar forum
Hamy what are your sim settings?
spare otter
they just default
urban tapir
his sim is prob legit if he has lego relax lol
ember apex
i dont even care about losing items like signet to low dps andys. what pisses me off the most is losing the hearthstone roll
spare otter
1 target 5 min
ember apex
on larodar
solar forum
Gotcha
mellow crow
we had 2 myth track weps drop in reclear this week, but I was banned until 20mins after reclear for the name azzbreath KEK
solar forum
leggo is wasted on me
no lol wear it with pride
spare otter
yea i will with my floor pov
rotund ginkgo
i dont even care about losing items like signet to low dps andys. what pisses me...
YESSIRRRRRRRRR
pliant berry
It'D be a waste on me
same here 😦
dire vigil
Is the weapon not a big upgrade for us simply because we don’t stack haste and crit anymore?
urban tapir
I NEED MY TOY
I won the roll last night 🥹
spare otter
LOL
rotund ginkgo
based and real
pliant berry
real
solar forum
LMFAO
rotund ginkgo
how fyralath should sim imo
mellow crow
don't worry that'll be our sims next xpac
sage depot
no thats just the cost of supplies to make it
spare otter
fake
rotund ginkgo
and no signet
based
i got another 2 ilvl waiting in my bag
for aspect crests
spare otter
augury enjoyer...
eternal raptor
Is augury just that big?
urban tapir
all u need to get invited to keys
spare otter
imagine getting that lucky to get augury
rotund ginkgo
yeti fuck u
spare otter
crazy
rotund ginkgo
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
wym lucky?
it dropped
and my guild gave it to me
??
it was biggest increase for me
u have signet
thats bigger then augury for ST
u troll
and u have leggo
???
spare otter
fair
rotund ginkgo
but i gave that 1 to chawie
urban tapir
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME
sry 😢
spare otter
i roll for it on boost runs lmao
what even happens if you win?
subtle lagoon
don't think I ever pumped that hard
spare otter
like its not a big deal right lol
rotund ginkgo
what even happens if you win?
i was told multiple times i can roll for it
so nothing
i just say
subtle lagoon
rotund ginkgo
but if some RL decides to be a meanie and say give it to a boostee
i juts say that another RL approved of it
urban tapir
how lucky did you get on Yazma SR 😛
rotund ginkgo
its fort 24 so it probs didnt do that much
subtle lagoon
spell reflected 2
urban tapir
its fort 24 so it probs didnt do that much
I was just teasing lol
urban tapir
bro reflected for 200mil
I would be rock hard if we could do this lol
rotund ginkgo
i can literally reflect for like 50k
toxic grove
how you guys simming 220k+
remote tulip
what a good trinks for m+ besides branch
toxic grove
Im hard stuck at 213k
rotund ginkgo
might
urban tapir
<:keks:936231610850897992>
rotund ginkgo
branch isnt a good m+ trinket
spare otter
branch funny af tho
rotund ginkgo
@urban tapir
remote tulip
it does so much dmg tho lol
rotund ginkgo
it isnt hearthstone of the flame
spare otter
that 2min 30 sec cd is cringe
rotund ginkgo
it does so much dmg tho lol
it rly doesnt
its not BAD
its jut not good
might of the ocean is giga bis
urban tapir
<@319788350892408843>
oh shit nice
rotund ginkgo
+augury is 2nd bis
i have a hero track helm with speed
its fuckin hero track
REEEE
remote tulip
ok whats another 1 then
rotund ginkgo
augury
mellow crow
and if you don't have augury, get some gold and get ready to offer it next time it drops ina pug lmaooo
spare otter
spiked counterweight is super bis
mellow crow
snagged mine for 200k w/ avoidance from some guy that had no clue what it was
rotund ginkgo
rotund ginkgo
496?
spare otter
lmao
dusky pulsar
I edited
rotund ginkgo
ah okay u scared me
scuffed
yeah i got it week 1 or start week 2 not sure
dropped on hc
guildies were a bunch of qt pies
mellow crow
mines scuffed normie instead of heroic but it is what it is
rotund ginkgo
483 is still fine
spare otter
i got brand week 1 pretty sure
mellow crow
ya it still blasts compared to other trinks lmao
ember apex
i did too but it was normal mode
spare otter
was very nice
wary fjord
My guild just keeps getting the tank trinket from him, is big sad
Seen it drop once
remote tulip
if i dont have augury then gore crushed?
mellow crow
we've only seen 1 augury in our guild, and it was an alt raid lol
dusky pulsar
signet sucks on m+ and it's probably showing the best case scenario there
rotund ginkgo
i have gore crushed but it sims lower than mirror
yeah ik signet sucks on m+
thats just a patchwerk 5
remote tulip
do you guys macro might of ocean with avatar or reckless
rotund ginkgo
just do what i did
mellow crow
ya thats where we're at, think we needed 4 or 5 and progging smold
rotund ginkgo
ember apex
gnarlroot hasnt dropped a single one and vaults havent been giving us 2h
yeah that's pog AF
mellow crow
2 dropped last night tho
rotund ginkgo
our loot week1-2 was literally insane
wild mural
we did it bois
wild mural
we're benched on council
ember apex
that's crazy
rotund ginkgo
yeah
wild mural
me too
rotund ginkgo
its god awful if tanks arent cleaving
wild mural
Im never playing it again
urban tapir
yup its dogshit
rotund ginkgo
CAN I GET SOME FUCKING CLEAVE MAYHAPS
urban tapir
could not care if my parse is 0 on council
wary fjord
Council annoying ye
ember apex
tanks cant setup claeve if stupid ass bear is at 30% hp and both others are at 70%
rotund ginkgo
imagine ur log being directly tied to how smart a tank is
if bear is at 30% and others are a 70%
wary fjord
I love hitting my CDs and then becoming a duck
rotund ginkgo
id look at literally ur entire raid
ember apex
yeah it didnt happen but it may be a reason why ur guys' tanks isnt settingup cleave
ember apex
so ur tank just being stingy or what
wild mural
also, angy fell off
wild mural
W or L?
ember apex
i purple parsed on council but gray parsed on volocross?
wtf im done
omg im regressing again
ember apex
fugg
ember apex
did i die
wild mural
omg im regressing again
you got CE in vault but got lower overall rank than me?
wild mural
what is this vs the top one
healing
oblique trail
Also like 2 people played Fury on Council
ember apex
you got CE in vault but got lower overall rank than me?
we perma extended after dathea kill
wild mural
wild mural
we perma extended after dathea kill
oof
oblique trail
ok nvm
ember apex
is that mythic?
marble schooner
Man this is like the worst tier i coulda picked to skip Mythic prog
oblique trail
there are actually more Fury parses for Council than Arms
wild mural
killed brood 5 times no rasz
oblique trail
That's kinda crazy to me
marble schooner
plucky ice
healing logs bis
ember apex
Man this is like the worst tier i coulda picked to skip Mythic prog
how could u skip leggo tier?
wild mural
is that mythic?
yessir
restive peak
The arms fury diff is minimal, and surviving is king, feels easier as fury
marble schooner
how could u skip leggo tier?
guild decided to sleep the tier and i just didnt go to another guild
im kinda thinking on trying to get one but idk
ember apex
how did ur guild kill mythic dathea 8 times and broodkeeper 5 times but no raszageth kills?
did u private log or what
that's weird AF
wild mural
how did ur guild kill mythic dathea 8 times and broodkeeper 5 times but no rasza...
constant reclear
wild mural
Also, they killed Rasz the raid after I quit
mellow crow
https://i.imgur.com/liRj1Vu.png this is what I get for startin tier as DK & tankin gnarl
plucky ice
imagine doing reclears when u dont even need the gear
ember apex
yeah
plucky ice
mellow crow
didnt touch my warr till like late week2 and then not in on random bosses lmao
wild mural
true dat
ember apex
extendo prison sucks but like u dont need 8 mythic dathea kills
restive peak
God I hope if we kill Tindral this week we extend
Fuck this fuckin boss
and fuck Larodar
wild mural
extendo prison sucks but like u dont need 8 mythic dathea kills
telling me
restive peak
He aint hard I just hate him
wild mural
smolderon boutta catch these hands tonight
restive peak
It's just not a fun fight, it's annoying and frustrating
restive peak
Oh same lmao
Tindral goes to P3 tn for sure, dead Sunday
Then it's off to the drakeboi
oblique trail
would make the fight even more miserable
oblique trail
Tindral goes to P3 tn for sure, dead Sunday
I believe in you soldier 🫡
restive peak
Thanks bae
We prayg
Bro our smoldy like 3% wipe
255k DPS
Our kill? 230
FUCK THIS
solemn widget
for M nymue do we use cds every intermission phase?
restive peak
3 kills on him now and I just suck at parsing on it
oblique trail
Ngl I'm just hoping I at least purple parse Smolderon on prog
but
I'll definitely feel differently about it when we reach the inevitable 80-100 pull range
ember apex
do u know about the 1min8sec positioning tech on smoldy
urban tapir
Its getting harder as people get Legendarys and they make it into logs 😢
ember apex
if u dont have legendary and u have multiple hFyrakk kills and mythic boss kills
ur being denied ur birthright
change my mind
psyche cant change my mind
urban tapir
its w/e i dont care too much but i'll get gapped by it in logs if i dont have it, no way around it
oblique trail
just play better than those with the lego
royal trench
Killing that boss since release on both HC and normal every week and I cannot get my hands on an Augury, let alone a leggo
oblique trail
it's that simple
naive summit
483 mirror or 476 might for keystones?
edgy widget
its w/e i dont care too much but i'll get gapped by it in logs if i dont have it...
the lego ain't that big
urban tapir
might
royal trench
Might
dusty aspen
I went from 10% by ilvl parses to 120% after getting the legendary and changing nothing.
gilded pawn
120%
dusky pulsar
guess who swapped specs for mythic sark for a little bit more st and execute
gilded pawn
Pog
edgy widget
kind of the best thing about it is that it's a smaller increase than most have been in the past - it being a 10-20% gain would feel pretty bad when people overperform solely due to getting lucky
A more muted 4-5% increase is big enough to prioritize, but not so big that it causes a noticeable balancing issue between players
errant vessel
the lego ain't that big
isn't the passive effect in itself like 3k dps increase?
fading bane
wish i could parse 120%
ember apex
its not luck to get it. its unlucky to not have it
dusty aspen
wish i could parse 120%
if it helps I am a panda so could be the difference.
edgy widget
isn't the passive effect in itself like 3k dps increase?
raw numbers aren't a good point of comparison - the entire legendary is ~4-5% ahead of an otherwise max ilevel epic
gilded pawn
Take notes
edgy widget
which is a nice gain, but not a massive gap
urban tapir
I just dont know where to make up the 5.2% extra dps on volo for example @edgy widget
gilded pawn
If you have panda you can parse 120%
dusty aspen
real and true
oblique trail
Still don't know how to feel about the fact that the on-use is only like a 1%~ difference between using it or not
errant vessel
that's like the difference between being specced ST talents and specced WW
oblique trail
When I tried a sim with it
edgy widget
I just dont know where to make up the 5.2% extra dps on volo for example <@61282...
play better, gear better, raid optimization for faster kills
I mean that's how parsing works
that's how it's always worked lol
spare otter
Basically skill issue?
ember apex
unironically have u messed w/ spell queue
marble schooner
Still don't know how to feel about the fact that the on-use is only like a 1%~ d...
at least you have something to press when everything is on cd + ragestarved
edgy widget
also it did 5% of his damage, which doesn't mean its 5% more damage than you're doing - in fact, it dealing 5% damage there makes me think it was probably negatively interrupting his rotation
ember apex
high apm classes need to tinker w/ spell queue window
edgy widget
cause that's kind of an abnormally high number
urban tapir
also it did 5% of his damage, which doesn't mean its 5% **more** damage than you...
def possible
shell jackal
how do ya'll start HC Gnarlroot off?
reck > charge > rampage/OF > save avatar/DR for treants?
chrome plover
Bro our smoldy like 3% wipe
HAHAH bro this is exactly what happened to me
oblique trail
at least you have something to press when everything is on cd + ragestarved
Sure, but you'd still hope that the on-use effect of a legendary weapon would be more meaningful than that
ember apex
dps into boss until adds spawn then cleave off boss into adds
chrome plover
i was rank 4 or smth on a 3% wipe and i just turbo griefed the kill
marble schooner
high apm classes need to tinker w/ spell queue window
i think i have to lower mine, when im very high haste sometimes I Ramp twice without meaning it
that kinda sucks balls
edgy widget
how do ya'll start HC Gnarlroot off?
depends on how fast those adds die in your group, but the first set especially tends to get obliterated, so I just full send ST and use whatever CDs are up each time adds come out
chrome plover
it's fine it just happens but sad
ember apex
i do also FREQUENTLY ramp twice
sullen dove
for M nymue do we use cds every intermission phase?
Depends if u need add dam or not
sullen dove
Like my add dies super fast so I don’t bother
edgy widget
if they die really slow in your group, you can try explicitly holding CDs for them, but it's like a minute to the first group
spare otter
at least you have something to press when everything is on cd + ragestarved
That depends if there's no mechs going on tho
marble schooner
Sure, but you'd still hope that the on-use effect of a legendary weapon would be...
for sure, i think with a few tweaks it can feel like that, at least during M+
sullen dove
But I might cooldown the middle add if I feel the groups lacking a little
edgy oasis
45 seconds but yes. They die too quickly.
marble schooner
I think having it haste + move while casting will make it very satisfying on-use
edgy widget
at least you have something to press when everything is on cd + ragestarved
tbh if you play correctly that basically never happens; it's like twice per fight where I might have to BT twice in a row
marble schooner
even if it isnt that big of a dps gain
edgy widget
and that's usually as a result of having gamed Bloodbath after OF instead of sending stacks on BT
marble schooner
tbh if you play correctly that basically never happens; it's like twice per figh...
it happens rarely to me, tho I aggree I feel like I goofed somewhere when i starve
marble schooner
and that's usually as a result of having gamed Bloodbath after OF instead of sen...
about that, its always better to hold OF a little bit till we Ramp>OF>BB right?
deft thicket
how is it possible new tier set pieces drop my dmg by 4k in comparison with the tier set from season 2?
edgy widget
about that, its always better to hold OF a little bit till we Ramp>OF>BB right?
I don't know about always but it does feel smoother to me to OF after Ramp
edgy widget
I generally go off fight timings, if I know there's something happening soon or that I'm going to need CDR, I'll send OF
If I know it's chill for a little bit or I'm not concerned about CDR for a specific mechanic, I can wait for Rampage first (it just helps generate enough rage to get two quick Bloodbaths during the short Avatar proc)
spiral oasis
Sorry that was me
edgy widget
and then the third Bloodbath often requires spending both Slam and WW to get enough rage to Rampage again, unless you got lucky with a Reck proc, charge, whatever
edgy widget
i had 3 95 parses turn to 94
parses don't lock in until the next day, to prevent the first person to clear each week getting automatic 100th percentiles
marble schooner
and then the third Bloodbath often requires spending both Slam and WW to get eno...
exactly, I do it so i can be sure both BB will fall inside Ava window and then after the third BB ill just slam>BT>WW>BT>Ramp or something like that
edgy widget
ig with the head enchant makessense
and EU time difference after a patch, they basically just don't want day raiding to become parse chasing
edgy widget
exactly, I do it so i can be sure both BB will fall inside Ava window and then a...
after the third Bloodbath you go back to the normal rotation, yes
wispy thistle
@deft thicket do you have the right talents? There shouldnt be a drop
edgy widget
the point is to ensure that third stack gets consumed by Bloodbath and not Bloodthirst though, which often requries using Slam and WW early to generate rage, which means that your following Bloodthirst will often not have a filler
naive summit
are yall holding of and avatar a little to get it under 35%
marble schooner
True true
edgy widget
So you'll do something like
Rampage -> OF -> BB -> Ramp -> BB -> Slam -> WW -> Rampage -> BB -> dead time -> BT
edgy widget
are yall holding of and avatar a little to get it under 35%
depends purely on the situation
- if it's a few seconds delay, sure
- if it's longer than that, generally send OF and just hold Ava/Reck for the next time it's up
marble schooner
So you'll do something like
```Rampage -> OF -> BB -> Ramp -> BB -> Slam -> WW -...
yes, and you could use the leggo in that deatime, provided you have no Ava for the next like 5 seconds right?
edgy widget
if you have the legendary, and nothing else is going on during the encounter at that time, sure
marble schooner
I will, next kill it drops for sure 
edgy widget
basically you want to use the legendary when
- Cooldowns aren't rolling (though the main emphasis is on Furious Bloodthirst, losing a few seconds of Ava when you're just casting BT isn't a major deal)
- Nothing mechanically important is happening during the fight
with the second point being more important than the first
losing 3s of Avatar is ok, boo hoo
dying to a lava wave cause you're tryin to be cheeky on Smolderon is 👀
fresh creek
the leggo sux tho not even sure iwant it 😄
edgy widget
I gotta test the positioning, but the real pro move for smoldy is using the jump activation of the legendary right as the lava waves are changing, so it lands you in a safe spot to give you time to swing
marble schooner
Leggo will go so hard on 2nd add waves in P2 Fyrakk
late escarp
Is there anywhere I can find useful macros for this seasons fury build? M+ focused
marble schooner
I usually am just short on cds there
edgy widget
Is there anywhere I can find useful macros for this seasons fury build? M+ focus...
You don't really need any
late escarp
You don't really need any
Ok cool nvm then! thank you boss! 🫡
meager gyro
you could do a mouseover pummel and a mouseover bloodthirst macro this season. The only other thing I use is extra action button macro for fyrakk seeds
edgy widget
I mean yeah there are macros you can use, just none specific to this season
glass thicket
Hi everyone, I'm trying to optimize myself as much as possible but I still have doubts about the stats, can someone tell me what the % to have per stat in raid and mm+ ?
olive wraith
I will change that then
edgy widget
could also macro it to OF, but it'll create issues if you ever go into situations of wanting to use OF but delay Reck/Ava for a burst period, <35%, etc
past pivot
Hi everyone, I'm trying to optimize myself as much as possible but I still have ...
Stats change depending on gear. Best you can do is sim your toon and optimize that way. Don’t worry about specific numbers or %
fresh creek
what do u mean with might?
glass thicket
okay thx
marble schooner
what do u mean with might?
trinket from ToTT
fresh creek
ow
marble schooner
Ocean Might
fresh creek
not been luckly getting it
deft thicket
<@431536442947141663> do you have the right talents? There shouldnt be a drop
Yeah i compared the new talents with the old talents in case of i miss something and it advices me to put 3 tier 31 and 2 tier 30 and it is. Abit odd to men and not only that, it reduces my dmg by 4k.. anyway i will run the sims again to see
dawn pivot
#Weapon Stone/Rune
profileset."Buzzing_Rune_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3"
profileset."Howling_Rune_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3"
profileset."Hissing_Rune_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3"
profileset."Howling+Buzzing"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3"
profileset."Hissing+Buzzing"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3"
profileset."Hissing+Howling"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3"
profileset."Hissing+Whetstone"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3"
profileset."Whetstone_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3"
profileset."Whetstone+howling"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:howling_whetstone_3"
profileset."Whetstone+buzzing"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:buzzing_whetstone_3"
when I run this, whats the default rune set used here for comparison?
dusky pulsar
You're trying to compare all consumable combinations?
When I run sims on raidbots with the default rune, it seems to be using Hissing Runes
unreal echo
wafting or sophic devotion for weps?
mellow crow
sim it
shell jackal
wafting or sophic devotion for weps?
unreal echo
for M+ i meant
meager gyro
wafting or sophic devotion for weps?
try earthen writ too, I currently need earthen
dusky pulsar
I assume sophic or earthen are best for m+ since haste is not that important on big pulls
fallow oracle
wowza
dusky pulsar
I need to leave this discord
shell jackal
^
dusky pulsar
all the leggos dropping is making me sad
fallow oracle
just in time to kill tindral this week
wanton mirage
What do u think is best combi for M+? Dont have a Might yet.
Heroic signet, Mythic Branch, Heroic Mirror, Heroic Crab.
indigo quarry
random legendary bad
blizzard didnt learn anything from lego acquisition from Legion
past pivot
Yeah i compared the new talents with the old talents in case of i miss something...
That can’t be right. Run 4p t31 if you have it.
sage depot
its not random its 50/50 just get it
past pivot
What do u think is best combi for M+? Dont have a Might yet.
Heroic signet, Myt...
Crab and mirror or branch
azure mesa
Just starting Tindral prog. Is OF CDR as tight as AM cdr could be on p1 Sarkareth?
fading bane
its not tight
tightest one is the first roots, but you also dont need to break it, so it being delayed dont matter
wispy thistle
@deft thicket post them and i can check
fading bane
took fucking ages, but it dropped
coarse nest
Grats! Still stuck with heroic version here.. have yet to drop mythic version in 5 kills
plucky ice
getting mine tomorrow for sure
shell jackal
getting mine tonight for sure
coarse nest
I sim full raid buffs for raid
shell jackal
tired jungle
I sim full raid buffs for raid
oh okay, even when u know u dont get full raid buff during raid?
coarse nest
Yes
tired jungle
okay thanks for the information
coarse nest
If I’m playing around with multi target sims then I would turn off all buffs that I cannot provide myself
red yew
sick narwhal
leggo question .. if i killed heroic Fyrakk do i still get a chance on normal as well?
sick narwhal
roger thanks
dawn pivot
When I run sims on raidbots with the default rune, it seems to be using Hissing ...
hissing is also on the list
but on sim its below the value
left perch
helm enchant quest is weird this week. Did 2 LFR bosses and got 5 each for my remaining 10.
such a dumb quest design
left perch
you get 10 a week, but it’s 1 per boss or whatever
errant vessel
how many lesser embers do you guys have?
clever path
seems to be pretty consistent as well from my experience
left perch
then on week 5 you get 5 per boss
errant vessel
so far
clever path
you get 10 a week, but it’s 1 per boss or whatever
its not 1 per boss
never was 1 per boss
left perch
it wasn’t 5 per boss either
clever path
same this week as its always been
azure mesa
Is this a good example of our rotation in execute? BB>Ramp with Tier stacks - BB>RAMP>EXE without Tier procs?
indigo quarry
i need someone that can confirm if the on use is offgcd for the disappointing lego
clever path
i got 5 + 4 + 1
indigo quarry
its important
fading bane
My shaman got that for mog yesterday
fuck that bitch
left perch
Never happened for me that way
dapper goblet
👩🦯
naive summit
if i have 95% avg parse on heroic can i get into a cutting edge guild?
warm crag
helm enchant quest is weird this week. Did 2 LFR bosses and got 5 each for my re...
hotfixed this week to give 4-5 per first kill of the week
last weeks it was 2-3
first week didnt give the full 10 for most thats why you got the rest mailed
clever belfry
warm crag
i do love how they picked the numbers specifically so a new alt cant complete the quest in one week
left perch
I mean I’m glad I got helm enchant that doesn’t work for my class apparently but
it’s just arbitrary design
and weirdge
clever path
i agree they fucked it u pbut its not that bad
warm crag
i mean it legit doesnt matter
you were supposed to get a damage amp in week 5 and you got the damage amp in week 5
silent burrow
I never touched council on mythic
rotund ginkgo
reclear pain
silent burrow
and now we extendo
dapper goblet
and now we extendo
what boss you extendo on
late ivy
my mirror is simming higher than might of the ocean. is this a sim trap?
naive summit
should we do 4 min sims or 5 mins sims
jovial heart
my mirror is simming higher than might of the ocean. is this a sim trap?
Yes and no, very annoying to 100% lineup on bursts without missing usage.
warm crag
Yes and no, very annoying to 100% lineup on bursts without missing usage.
wdym
3 minute trinket and you play 90s cds
late ivy
so might is better than mirror when paired with rezan then?
wild mural
I cant
strange drift
i had such a pepega moment
i was wondering how does a 483 axe sim better than 489 mace
an i forgot about enchant
strong oar
Is there a ST opener or is it the rotation I see on wowhead etc?
strange drift
xD
fading bane
Reck Charge Ramp OF Spear/Roar BB Ramp BB Ramp Ava BB Ramp etc
you ava when the OF dot falls off
strange drift
Reck Charge Ramp OF Spear/Roar BB Ramp BB Ramp Ava BB Ramp etc
of means odyns fury right?
not onlyfans
fading bane
yes
wild mural
I fell off hard
strange drift
Reck Charge Ramp OF Spear/Roar BB Ramp BB Ramp Ava BB Ramp etc
btw why not ava+reck on start
dawn pivot
what does it do
strange drift
chrage ava reck ramp
fading bane
You waste CDR on OF
fading bane
what does it do
gives dmg proc
fading bane
chrage ava reck ramp
thats a vile opener
dawn pivot
gives dmg proc
but I should use it on a bis helmet right?
sage depot
its unlimited use
sage depot
you cant ask people on the warrior discord to read zugzug
rotund ginkgo
pumping
noble elm
What is everyone mostly simming st patchwerk? I’m st 215k but have seen a lot of other classes closer to 240
dapper goblet
sims are fake anyway
cobalt jacinth
What is everyone mostly simming st patchwerk? I’m st 215k but have seen a lot o...
like 227.5
noble elm
Is signet brand really worth that much?
cobalt jacinth
siggy b is good
noble elm
I’m 482 with a 489 mh and I don’t see many upgrades taking me much higher than 220
chilly fractal
I’m simming 225
cobalt jacinth
I’m 482 with a 489 mh and I don’t see many upgrades taking me much higher than 2...
do you have the helm enchant?
and how many sockets
cobalt jacinth
then that seems kinda weird unless all youre ilvl is in weird spots
idk ill also be like 485.low after i spend the rest of mythic crests this week
3 character ilvl is quite a bit
vague sand
thats a vile opener
that's like 10.0 opener
cobalt jacinth
i have very few upgrades left even from mythic
noble elm
I’ve got some wonky pieces due to lack of drops but nothing lower than 470 and will be at 483 after upgrades
fading bane
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m5adqXyxPtnWEGAD4Va9Gd 
but no legendary
rotund ginkgo
chrage ava reck ramp
diabolical opener
sullen dove
I fell off hard
same
rotund ginkgo
GYAT THAT MYHTHIC SIGNET
sullen dove
why are there bosses with no pad
terse idol
Pink shirt has some pretty good itemization
sullen dove
every boss should be igira
cobalt jacinth
X
chilly fractal
Every time I see Brand and Augury on someone I cry
cobalt jacinth
igira has shit pad when u have 2 hunters an unh dk and 2 dhs
no it doesnt
cobalt jacinth
u should be doing the most damage to those spears pretty much no matter what
rotund ginkgo
this igira we dont talk about cuz i was eating grilled cheese and mayhaps have died
i do the most damage to the spears they still die hella fast
cobalt jacinth
yeah they just dont have that much health
rotund ginkgo
i pop an OF and MAYBE get a rampage/bb rotation in there before they die
cobalt jacinth
the OF on use by itself is more than pretty much anyone else in the raid in gonna get on every set
sullen dove
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gMJ1Bo5osS6L3L82CXgk2q
ma boy you should be well past the point of saving wyrms
i dont think its even possible to run out
why is every piece of gear not 476
wild mural
sullen dove
get yo ring cloak and neck up
rain heart
If you have the tier set buff active is it bad to use an unempowered bloodthirst or should I always be waiting till I have the rampage buff?
wild mural
ma boy you should be well past the point of saving wyrms
im not saving wyrms
im just not bothering to get em
cba
sullen dove
fading bane
yikes
sullen dove
respek tbh
cobalt jacinth
If you have the tier set buff active is it bad to use an unempowered bloodthirst...
the sim wants you to press everything except ww before using an tier buffed bt
cobalt jacinth
ill still even ww if it means i can rampage the next global
wild mural
I don't wanna do smt that makes me mistabele
heady lichen
how much haste do you guys usually go for? Keep siming and everytime its telling me to take crit/vers/mastery items over haste. Im at 25% now
clever path
trust the robot
sullen dove
just sim things and if it says more haste more haste
heady lichen
i should try them in content for sure, but do you guys follow up raidbot strictly?
clever path
i should try them in content for sure, but do you guys follow up raidbot strictl...
follow
heady lichen
sullen dove
unless its like an 80 dps upgrade for swapping out all of my gems
in which case fuck that
chilly fractal
I got like 22% I think
sullen dove
but like what pieces to wear yeah
fading bane
I don't wanna do smt that makes me mistabele
you get weekly cap of wyrms from hc clear
you can also trade up drakes
if u got any
wild mural
ugh clearing hc
rain heart
the sim wants you to press everything except ww before using an tier buffed bt
So it is only worth it to blow a charge if I have nothing else to press? (Or if the buff is going to time out)
noble elm
then that seems kinda weird unless all youre ilvl is in weird spots
finishing off upgrades this week puts me at 221 without signet so you right - those lower pieces are impactful
wild mural
wild mural
489 augury
literally wont get it
snow edge
Just loot it, and you will
chilly fractal
I’m literally sitting extra bosses on mythic so I get 2 Heroic Vault options for a chance at one (or heroic brand)
sullen dove
leggo blp
strange drift
crit phial or vers phial for raiding
young swan
after i looted lego i sat for every mythic boss so i get 3 heroic slots AND got to grind my lego
strange drift
coz i heard mixed opinions on that lol
vague sand
just get it on vault, easy
fading bane
after i looted lego i sat for every mythic boss so i get 3 heroic slots AND got ...
shut
young swan
crit phial or vers phial for raiding
crit is slightly more damage, vers is cheaper and more survivable
indigo quarry
after i looted lego i sat for every mythic boss so i get 3 heroic slots AND got ...
you can turboblast the roots even more now !
fading bane
if i get my hands
chilly fractal
just get it on vault, easy
I’m fucking trying!
fading bane
on the guy that made this legendary system
dapper goblet
rhinoplasty
clever path
literally wont get it
you will
wild mural
you will <:copium:839076283467431956>
nah
clever path
get leggo tho
wild mural
I will get neither all tier
cobalt jacinth
So it is only worth it to blow a charge if I have nothing else to press? (Or if ...
if im like <60 rage ill send it before ww
vague sand
I got leggo indiana jones
cobalt jacinth
but this should happen very rarely if youre playing right
rain heart
I don't raid so Augury and Brand were a pipe dream. Then I got Brand in my mythic + quest. Sometimes dreams do come true
vague sand
only leggo I can get
rain heart
if im like <60 rage ill send it before ww
Thank you
late ivy
are my stats good or do i need more haste?
vague sand
Only thing I can tell you is that you need more avoidance
spring geyser
speed > avoidance
chilly fractal
speed > avoidance
This is the way
late ivy
i just noticed that i havent placed my cape enchant kekw
elfin oriole
Is lariat ever worth an embellish slot on warr or no?
spring geyser
fully socketed, and for aoe, yes
wild mural
does this just do 0 damage
spring geyser
does this just do 0 damage
its free dmg i suppose
olive wraith
does this just do 0 damage
That looks like almost 2% to me
rotund ginkgo
does this just do 0 damage
gets 1.8% dmg for free
olive wraith
And for absolutely no down side
rotund ginkgo
UHHHH
chilly fractal
Honestly I’m just surprised they killed enough bosses to get the enchant
rotund ginkgo
they?
indigo quarry
it gives like 5 per boss now
rotund ginkgo
every1 shoudl have it if they cleared all the bosses each week
olive wraith
It wasn’t hard to get lol
silent burrow
You can literally get it this week in lfr lol
rotund ginkgo
eah
chilly fractal
No shit detectives
olive wraith
Honestly I’m just surprised they killed enough bosses to get the enchant
Maybe rephrase your statement then
chilly fractal
Was talking about Syi who has been complaining about doing content
restive peak
Normal bosses literally do not have a mechanic
past pivot
Is lariat ever worth an embellish slot on warr or no?
Maybe sometime in the future. Maybe.
verbal breach
any further info/testing on the legendary since the hasted/crit dot hotfix?
past pivot
are my stats good or do i need more haste?
Sim. Can’t tell a thing from looking at them.
late ivy
simmed my char a couple times looks like it is 😄
rotund ginkgo
any further info/testing on the legendary since the hasted/crit dot hotfix?
conclusion: get the legendary
those are my testing results
chilly fractal
any further info/testing on the legendary since the hasted/crit dot hotfix?
I mean… the on use feels bad
verbal breach
conclusion: get the legendary
I think thats a solid result
chilly fractal
The dot does more damage than it did before the hotfix
verbal breach
I mean… the on use feels bad
is there an optimal time to use it? or just send after our bloodbath procs have been consumed
lament oxide
Anyone know the value of Might of the Ocean vs Rezans in the raid, do the damage amps make us lean toward Might?
Other trink is maxed signet brand
chilly fractal
is there an optimal time to use it? or just send after our bloodbath procs have ...
Sims say to use on pull after charging in… but if you ever lust on pull that just feels extremely terrible. I’ve been using it when I got no Rampage or Bloodbath
rotund ginkgo
probably depends on kill timers/damage amp intermissions like smoldy
vague sand
anytime you are at your lowest haste point, thats the time you press it
spring geyser
things can feel bad, but that doesn't change whether or not it's a dps gain to use on pull
lament oxide
Ye - Rezan sims 2k ahead for me, but im not sure how to account for things like the smoldy damage amp, or just the value of having 2.5k more str with cds
vague sand
if BL on pull, its a dps loss
verbal breach
does it benefit from avatar/recklesness?
or is it just [x] damage amplified by however many dots are out
vague sand
Now, if its like my guild who takes about 3 sec to BL then its a dps gain lol
its amp by vers and crit
dots are hasted as well
olive wraith
does it benefit from avatar/recklesness?
It does not
I think archi said use outside of cds
verbal breach
yeah, seems like thats best
vague sand
cast time is fixed tho. That combined with the dots being hasted means that the higher the haste, the less dmg the dots do while channeling but youre still channeling for 3 sec so you lose GCDs
in general its just best to use outside everything, literally on you lowest amped point
verbal breach
so do you send at the end of the dot? or does that not matter since the dot is 100p application rate
chilly fractal
Your dot will be up
verbal breach
also does ww/rampage cleave apply the dot
verbal breach
you mean cleave the dot? idk the answer to that
i guess does whirlwind apply the dot to only prio target or everyone hit
and does your meatcleaver talent apply it to the 4 cleaved targets or nah
rotund ginkgo
giving it until tomorrow to be a fuckin 70 log lmao
vague sand
Im sure it does apply it to everyone hit
rotund ginkgo
i literally casted odyns fury on opener unenraged
vague sand
rotund ginkgo
i wanna kms
chilly fractal
I’ll double check but I’m 99% certain it’s whatever you hit
elfin oriole
is it normal to get several of the bonus % drop tokens for the lego in a single run?
chilly fractal
I got 4 last week before looting the leggo
elfin oriole
i think i got 4ish this week when i ran heroic
warm crag
is it normal to get several of the bonus % drop tokens for the lego in a single ...
you shouldnt get any in nm
or do u
am i silly
elfin oriole
does it work like last seasons where you only need to run your highest difficulty? or do normal hero mythic all have their own chance?
flat sapphire
Whats the better spec for all the different bosses in the raid
chilly fractal
and does your meatcleaver talent apply it to the 4 cleaved targets or nah
WW will apply to what’s hit
warm crag
does it work like last seasons where you only need to run your highest difficult...
highest difficulty should roll for all the lower difficulties aswell
elfin oriole
cool just wanted to make sure
warm crag
normal bosses shouldn't drop any lesser blp at all
elfin oriole
got lucky on my Trinket drops so i didnt want to waste time running norm if not needed xd
grave wind
why on earth i got a greater essence on lfr, normal and hc then ?
warm crag
because you cleared in that order
rotund ginkgo
why on earth i got a greater essence on lfr, normal and hc then ?
fyrrak drops it
but if u do fyrrak lfr>normal>hc they dont stack
lets say arbitrarily,
lfr greater is 1%
normal greater is 1.5%
and hc greater is 2%
then by getting hc you'll get 2% whereas by doing lfr+normal you'll get 1.5
olive wraith
If you’re clearing heroic weekly just do that
charred gate
But the mount drop tho
frosty heron
hey guys
vague sand
no need to do them all separately
grave wind
I think this mechanic should be more transparent, on the item tooltip at least…
whole marsh
doing the highest rolls for each one individually
just to expand on that - does getting a greater ember matter either?
sterile shore
Guys, I have on char the trinkets : Rezan and Catalcysmic on HC 6/6 -> 483 ilvl, I won on raidfinder Augury trinket from Fyrakk ilvl 476
It is better than what I have equiped or I sell it ?
wild mural
gottem
frosty heron
how long it took you ?
olive wraith
Guys, I have on char the trinkets : Rezan and Catalcysmic on HC 6/6 -> 483 ilvl,...
Sim, but if I would guess, augury will probably be better than Rezans for aoe
warm crag
It is better than what I have equiped or I sell it ?
equip it and ideally you look up whether its better before you roll lmao
sterile shore
I thought Rezan is for single..