it was close enough
#fury
oblique trail
mossy fox
i think it's a bug....
proud vessel
is it real?
narrow narwhal
We can be ring twins, crit
mossy fox
also i thought i had full mythic vault but forgor i was out on igira
I might take the ring for use with future socket
or just take a socket now, not sure
warm crag
also i thought i had full mythic vault but forgor i was out on igira
lol noob
you couldve had a 10k nature shield every minute !!
mossy fox
wow
chilly fractal
100k
warm crag
damn you really got me there with that order of magnitude difference (it makes none)
stuck bison
I would take the ring. It will be hard to get that thing in the vault again
chilly fractal
Put a ticket in to Blizzard and say it had a socket on it when you took it from the vault
oblique trail
so happy for you
Your vault was infinitely better than mine at the very least
very dookie!
kindred notch
my fellow warriors, does it make sense to do lfr, nm fyrakk to increase drop chance for hc?
eternal sundial
Your vault was infinitely better than mine at the very least
Surely socket on WM ring
unreal onyx
huge
unreal onyx
im kinda feeling a sockie in mine today sadly
wild mural
why even bother with keys when you just get loot in the first slot
unreal onyx
im about to open mine
unreal onyx
surely
warm crag
im about to open mine
can you link the fyralath vault screenshot please
unreal onyx
don't have it saved unfortunately
warm crag
sucks to suck
unreal onyx
but that doesn't matter as I will get it now
wild mural
yooo guys can ytou get the axe from thwe avult?
drifting coral
guys where can i find opener for furry ?
wild mural
I made a cup of tea and it went cold this is the worst
unreal onyx
yooo guys can ytou get the axe from thwe avult?
naive swallow
why even bother with keys when you just get loot in the first slot
recently it's been clear to me , "why even farm gear if im not even pushing at the end " ngl these days im just chilling harrrd
warm crag
furry opener..
wild mural
recently it's been clear to me , "why even farm gear if im not even pushing at t...
true dat
naive swallow
after my ocean farm , all there left was void
unreal onyx
I want big number
wild mural
furry opener..
my speciality
unreal onyx
so I farm mindlessly
naive swallow
55 ish times , dont wanna remember tbh LUL
warm crag
post your vault or i will eviscerate you @unreal onyx
unreal onyx
I got might after like 4 runs
warm crag
wait werent you the guy with the german wow
unreal onyx
post your vault or i will eviscerate you <@257603600962945024>
loading in
unreal onyx
wait werent you the guy with the german wow
yes
mossy fox
Your vault was infinitely better than mine at the very least
we can trade vaults ill take those shoulders
warm crag
sick i want to see some Schlüsselsteinbelohnungen
mossy fox
i cant
warm crag
crit best try on tindral
oblique trail
if there's a will there's a way
mossy fox
need to break out of tindral prison
wild mural
crit extendo gamer?
mossy fox
crit best try on tindral
idk we got to p2 like 3-4 times
oblique trail
Knorrenwurzels Knochenbrecher
warm crag
@clever belfry
left perch
give neck pls
warm crag
hahahah why is flight translated as Schwarm
oblique trail
knogleødelægger @tardy lark
unreal onyx
not even any tertiaries
warm crag
bis helmet is nice
mossy fox
gnarlroot's bonecrusher lmao
naive swallow
u know what
wild mural
yoooooooooo Knorrenwurzels Knochenbrecher
naive swallow
guess it's time for max out my 2nd and 3rd wayor
warm crag
not the Ringelschlange man
eternal sundial
the ring sucks
Oh noes no hole
naive swallow
i'd rather play MULTIPLE warriors than any other classes
oblique trail
Oh noes no hole
I have the AD ring with a hole in it
And it's way worse than what I got
so gg
unreal onyx
bis helmet is nice
I got myth council helmet
eternal sundial
Seelengespo..
wild mural
Ringelschlang
eternal sundial
I have the AD ring with a hole in it
I got the crit mast one from dht with sockie and avoid last week
oblique trail
some people just deserve better loot than I
left perch
toxic grove
why a 467 dh come so close to me (482) in overall?
clever path
@oblique trail GG 😄
oblique trail
because dh
toxic grove
are we just a battle shout for our masters dhs?
unreal onyx
damn
tardy lark
knogleødelægger <@198808002629730304>
hej
unreal onyx
neck really good?
warm crag
some one sent me this boys
can you keep posting this please i want to see it for the 60th time today
left perch
Neck good
clever belfry
hahahah why is flight translated as Schwarm
cause thats how u call a flight of birds
in german
toxic grove
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2FUN4bzArgEpZUyKmBr2a2
why are you simming so low?
warm crag
surely they could find a cooler word than Schwarm for dragons
unreal onyx
why are you simming so low?
m+ build
eternal sundial
Fucked up one tho
left perch
not sure why you’re simming so low as your gear is better than mine, also your m+ logs - were you boosting or did you play
eternal sundial
No swave
unreal onyx
that's the 
m+ build
eternal sundial
I sim like 207 in m+ cuz DB bc
desert cloud
can i sim all crafted gear at once cuz when i try on top gear it's like a gazillion iterations
unreal onyx
nah
warm crag
your opinion has been voided and your free will has been taken
dire badge
toxic grove
titanic rage is dog
unreal onyx
just do dam
warm crag
you are merely a mindless drone, doomed to spam ww to maximize seismic damage
oblique trail
I'll have you know I do this "x" overall in keys
eternal sundial
Bonegrinder pog
oblique trail
I bet you can't compete
arctic stone
helm enchant doesnt crit?
unreal onyx
I might have to refer you to my +16 nelth run to show that I clearly know what I am talking about
toxic grove
not with titainc rage
left perch
I might have to refer you to my +16 nelth run to show that I clearly know what I...
No shot uve timed
arctic stone
The ST bleed doesn't
its bugged right?
oblique trail
I don't think it's bugged
wild mural
why are you simming so low?
not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?
oblique trail
But it's also just made available yesterday/today
So we'll probably see a fix sometime soon if it's bugged
oblique trail
It still does a lot of damage regardless of it being able to crit or not
arctic stone
I don't think it's bugged
i just compare with fire mage that does 5x more dmg enchant with 70% crit hits..
oblique trail
Considering it's a purely passive enchant
unreal onyx
is that on a single target?
yes
oblique trail
I don't know anything about other enchants or how well they perform/what they do
I don't even remember the last time I saw a fire mage
unreal onyx
I sim like 213k in ST build
charred gate
xD
tardy lark
ødelæggelse
for tidligt på dagen mate
oblique trail
for tidligt på dagen mate
15:09
charred gate
I sim like 213k in ST build
with your gear i dont expect anything less
unreal onyx
question is
wild mural
for tidligt på dagen mate
good morning aagardw of stormscale did you get a good vauilt
unreal onyx
take dht neck and call it a season
eternal sundial
good morning aagardw of stormscale did you get a good vauilt
You mean aagaardnikes
unreal onyx
or take gnarl weap for offhand finishing the season
eternal sundial
W is fake char
eternal sundial
or take gnarl weap for offhand finishing the season
Rekill first
unreal onyx
that's what I'm thinking too
wild mural
W is fake char
HUH
unreal onyx
I am next in line for the weap
restive peak
Bro we're what, 5 gnarl kills deep? No 2h or legs
unreal onyx
just have it
sorry I have the whitefin axe with speed 489, that one actually requires skill to aquire
wild mural
sorry I have the whitefin axe with speed 489, that one actually requires skill t...
AYO
bitch
charred gate
sorry I have the whitefin axe with speed 489, that one actually requires skill t...
hes a gamer watch out
wild mural
thx im crying
oblique trail
Bro we're what, 5 gnarl kills deep? No 2h or legs
it's fine you get giga loot from every other boss to make up for it
also 
(when I upgrade ring)
errant pond
Should I use Signet and Augury trink in M+ or Augury and mirror?
urban tapir
also <:wicked:937093876857045012>
gamer
severe fern
Should I use Signet and Augury trink in M+ or Augury and mirror?
augury + mirror*
restive peak
485.75 over hurrrr @oblique trail we ball friend
wild mural
oblique trail
Gamer
restive peak
Honestly reclear was ez as fuck w helm enchant man
tame yarrow
Running normal first then heroic has no affect on your chance for leggo right guys?
oblique trail
Still using 2x 483 trinkets and 2x 480 pieces
errant pond
augury + mirror*
ty
restive peak
I have 476 bracers and 483 OH/Helm/Neck/Ring
oblique trail
No augury to boost ilvl is gg
oblique trail
I have
unreal onyx
I think relcear hc full took us like 1.5h last week
oblique trail
no augury
unreal onyx
loot issue
oblique trail
augury and brandless
restive peak
I finally got it yday, thank god
pallid cipher
do we need to kill fyrakk on all difficulties now? or is it just enough with hc, like the evoker leggo?
unreal onyx
I got signet on our first hc kill
unreal onyx
do we need to kill fyrakk on all difficulties now? or is it just enough with hc,...
if you can kill hc, only do that
urban tapir
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n5kq6wqtJRGHHsxKNBzhBU
217k st gimme lego
unreal onyx
the rest doesnt matter
oblique trail
do we need to kill fyrakk on all difficulties now? or is it just enough with hc,...
Killing on HC gives you the cumulative chance of killing LFR, Norm and HC all together
severe fern
but killing it in lfr and normal gives you + 2 greater essence
meager void
Killing on HC gives you the cumulative chance of killing LFR, Norm and HC all to...
we are 99,99% sure this is how it works.
restive peak
That isn't how it works Arck
unreal onyx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n5kq6wqtJRGHHsxKNBzhBU
217k st gimme le...
what's that
oblique trail
we are 99,99% sure this is how it works.
There's not really any reason not to think this is how it works when they've said that's how it is
oblique trail
Just go kill Fyrakk
On the highest poss difficulty
Either you loot it or you dont
then go next reset
lavish pond
hey did they changed something ? My fury had like 193k damage and now 180k without changing anything
meager void
There's not really any reason not to think this is how it works when they've sai...
its kinda Schrodinger's Leggo
severe fern
That isn't how it works Arck
you re dropping greater essence from lfr and normal and you can track them, since no one knows how bl protection work it's still worth to do it
toxic grove
the build up from lfr to heroic is kinda nice ngl
tardy lark
good morning aagardw of stormscale did you get a good vauilt
sockie on my trash geared warrior but tindral loot on rogue
unreal onyx
didn't blizz state that you only need to kill fyrakk on the highest difficulty possible for you
oblique trail
They did but people want to tinfoil hat theorycraft
restive peak
you re dropping greater essence from lfr and normal and you can track them, sinc...
No, we know how it works; the exact same as the evoker 1, which was highest difficulty is equal to doing all prior+highest
They have explicitely stated many times they won't force you to do all difficulties weekly
severe fern
No, we know how it works; the exact same as the evoker 1, which was highest diff...
so using 3 greater essence is the same as using one each week?
restive peak
The greater essence is just a feel good item, the BLP gets applied on kill
And the "cap" is mythic, the cap lower is heroic
LFR+normal+heroic = same amount of BLP as just heroic
severe fern
The greater essence is just a feel good item, the BLP gets applied on kill
feels like i got scammed doing fyrak lfr this morning 🤮
lavish breach
whats the reason to swap out bloodcraze for slaugthering strikes?
wild mural
sockie on my trash geared warrior but tindral loot on rogue
Yoooo
severe fern
actualy nothing can kill raid so ... just wasting 5min
lavish breach
or vice versa
upper sentinel
Hey question can we go above 50 percent Mastery ?
oblique trail
whats the reason to swap out bloodcraze for slaugthering strikes?
BC more ST damage, Slaughtering more AoE
lavish breach
ok thanks!
lavish pond
Hey question can we go above 50 percent Mastery ?
yes u can
restive peak
Even normal is hilarious this tier, heroic is fairly faceroll too
Maybe it's recency bias, feels like this tiers heroic>mythic mechanic jump is bigger than normal
Thank god cuz heroic is boring as fuckin hell
copper lily
silent burrow
Legit week 1, heroic felt like normal difficulty
restive peak
Yeah
tardy lark
Legit week 1, heroic felt like normal difficulty
the buffs they did during the week were pretty well done honestly
restive peak
Normally, this early into a season, I still semi enjoy heroic...yesterday was so boring.
dry talon
anyone can tell me pls how to sim vault ?
unreal onyx
open vault type /simc
tardy lark
anyone can tell me pls how to sim vault ?
open vault, open chat and type in /simc and you vault is generated in the text dump
silent burrow
the buffs they did during the week were pretty well done honestly
Yeah honestly it was so easy that the buffs were after we had already gotten aotc so we didn't even see them until the next week, and since we had so much more gear by week 2 it didn't even matter
wild mural
wat
lofty apex
that's insane
unreal onyx
real
fallow leaf
y
dry talon
open vault, open chat and type in /simc and you vault is generated in the text d...
and top gear yes ?
restive peak
Bro
fallow leaf
restive peak
I want that
tardy lark
and top gear yes ?
yes
toxic grove
how?
fallow leaf
idk
unreal onyx
ashkandur mh
toxic grove
crab/augury would bis for M+ ?
toxic grove
but thats too much crit no?
unreal onyx
there is no "too much" of any stat
they just become less valuable
might on-use fuck good for burst
river bane
Hey all. I am doing around 80-85k dps at ivl445. Is that decent enough? Am fairly new to spec, so my rotation probably still need alot of work
restive peak
1400? Wut lol
Augury is broken
For ST+MT
If you have augury and aren't using it for M+ you're legit trolling
toxic grove
I wish i have it
wild mural
I have nothing
restive peak
Finally got mine yday, clearing norm/HC since week 1
toxic grove
I would make it my family heirloom
wild mural
I would make it my family heirloom
this is my family heirloom
unreal onyx
still using it?
wild mural
yes
toxic grove
chrome plover
errant pond
the leggo drops from LFR does it
oblique trail
it can
wild mural
also keeping this
wild mural
<a:huh:1072539415261499412>
errant vessel
Anyone seen the legendary drop in their group?
wild mural
I dont think we're doing HC reclear tonight 
chrome plover
we arent either
warm basin
Guys ive just respecced to Fury
How much mastery/Vers/haste/Crit do you guys have? Also ilvl?
warm basin
Why?
wild mural
cause you'll get better results simming gear as you get it
rather than going for a specific amount of stats
restive peak
Sim brotherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
distant patio
true
wild mural
another uwu
errant vessel
Guys ive just respecced to Fury
How much mastery/Vers/haste/Crit do you guys hav...
Check murlok.io if you want some idea what other people’s stat spreads are
proud vessel
Is this real?
distant patio
UwU
errant vessel
But yeah, always sim
lyric panther
Is this just fantasy? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1184503374926848170/image.png?ex=658c35bb&is=6579c0bb&hm=80901048922015d84651098e5afaead16b37383ee9daf675eff1db4c59bf3732&
oblique trail
so what we have doesnt matter to you
warm basin
Yeah but i want 2 know kinda how much i need of everything
wild mural
stuck in a landslide
marble schooner
no escape from reality
heavy ruin
Is this the new meme?
distant patio
i love it
coral sparrow
uhm dis doesnt look normally
wanton flower
Open your eyes
crude ridge
Look up to the skies and seeeeeee
oblique trail
Yeah but i want 2 know kinda how much i need of everything
There isn't any % you need
Just sim top gear
silent burrow
What % of top gear do I follow
wild mural
What % of top gear do I follow
the highest negative
warm crag
spring geyser
What % of top gear do I follow
Whatever your heart desires. I do top gear sim, pick the top 5 or 10 gear combinations and then run it in gear compare about 3 times and see which one is the most consistent.
rotund ginkgo
any1 need some?
rotund ginkgo
myth track baddies
yikers
i got a gore-crusted wiht speed
not sure if iw anna grab it from vault
dense elbow
Did BB dam go down, or is my brain doing trick on me? Cause I used to do 410k+ crits, now I do 380k '-'
open arrow
I've gotten a 3rd might of the ocean from the vault and every time it was a new track. This week its myth track last week was hero, week before champion
oblique trail
It didn't
dense elbow
Stupid sexy brain
wild mural
Stupid sexy brain <:sadge:820202363359854633>
Nothing at all
indigo quarry
wild mural
just get augury, brand, might
Im only missing one of those
wild mural
chrome plover
u do not need mirror for literally anything
oblique trail
mirror dookie
wild mural
Counterweight <3
smf counterweight
wanton flower
u do not need mirror for literally anything
trinkets are like pokemon
coral sparrow
uhm dis doesnt look normally
relog made a difference is this like anvil bug
stiff barn
How good is counterweight after the changes?
oblique trail
Still not good
wild mural
look at that trinky go
stiff barn
Shame , but fair
oblique trail
There are just way better ST trinkets this season
That it's just obsolete and only really clogs up the loot pool
jaunty solar
Kinda on the fence on whether I should craft myself a cloak/wrists when I have solid ones or go for upgrading my season 2 boots that already have shadowflame patch
shell jackal
you can get the axe with lootspec prot too right
wild mural
oof counterweight is bad
oblique trail
It is
chrome plover
rotund ginkgo
i mean i got a boe @chrome plover
sold it for 700k
so im good
wasnt it nearly 1mil for merees to make? lmao
or like 600k
robust widget
sold it for 700k
hey its me your long lost brother, how about some moneyzz?
rotund ginkgo
hey josh! no
chrome plover
copium you get it not copium it's a lot of gold lmfao
wild mural
i mean i got a boe <@173228061074915329>
I got a boe
flat sapphire
just in case ill get it
You mean when you get it
rotund ginkgo
then it went to 1.8
dense elbow
The market is crashing! Sell, sell!
flat sapphire
Cause im surely getting it next raid
plucky ice
bro in guild bought all mats day 1 and paid like 700k now theyre under 300, no leggo drop either
flat sapphire
plucky ice
lol lmao
rotund ginkgo
@plucky ice yeah i figured i should wait a few weeks let blp build up
itll probably stabilize around what i paid
maybe go down another 50k
ish
plucky ice
yep
solemn widget
do we hold cds on M nymue for each intermission?
wild mural
maybe go down another 50k
yeah im not gonna buy mats till I get it
proud vessel
how is branch for us in m+?
warm crag
shite
patent sinew
👀 can the axe actaully drop in LFR?
stuck cedar
👀 can the axe actaully drop in LFR?
I believe so! With a very low drop chance, but yes, it's available in all raid difficulties. I ran LFR yesterday and receive the axe bad luck protection item from Fyrakk.
rotund ginkgo
yeah im not gonna buy mats till I get it
its today im telling u
rotund ginkgo
👀 can the axe actaully drop in LFR?
yes
pointless to do lfr though you might as well run it on hc for higher chance
errant vessel
Kinda on the fence on whether I should craft myself a cloak/wrists when I have s...
I personally crafted shadowflame cloak/boots because then I can get engi wrists for keys
acoustic furnace
pointless to do lfr though you might as well run it on hc for higher chance
How is it pointless? Literally just another shot at it dropping.
chrome plover
because if you do heroic you get your chance of all difficulties combined
acoustic furnace
I thought that was just for the bad luck protection
chrome plover
if you do lfr > normal > heroic you have the same chance as doing just heroic
no, it's both
likewise if you do normal after doing heroic it wont drop
nocturne dragon
but I think doing 3 difficulties will at least give us some item we need no? Like ring/trinket whatsoever if we ever need any
chrome plover
that's an entirely different point
acoustic furnace
Flightstones if nothing else
rustic obsidian
but if u do all difficulties u get more of the blp items right 😄
chrome plover
no
rustic obsidian
from each kill u get 1
chrome plover
the only point there is the lessers from heroic and mythic bosses that arent fyrakk
rotund ginkgo
and those arent guaranteed
chrome plover
killing lfr > normal > heroic fyrakk vs just heroic fyrakk
rotund ginkgo
i did a full unsaved normal boost and didnt see a single drop
rustic obsidian
weird...i got 3 items from 3 kills today so 😄
chrome plover
is the exact same
rotund ginkgo
not guaranteed doesnt mean u cant get 3 in a row lmao
coarse nest
You do get one from each kill if you start at the lowest difficulty and work your way up. However if you do just heroic the one item you get will include the same blp you would otherwise get from doing 3 kills on each difficulty
chrome plover
weird...i got 3 items from 3 kills today so 😄
yes, but they add up to 1 heroic kill
robust widget
weird...i got 3 items from 3 kills today so 😄
if you do lfr > normal > heroic you get 3 greater ones, but if you do heroic first you get 1 token with all the lower difficulties in it
chrome plover
if you just did 1 heroic kill it effectively gives you the normal and lfr blp for free
they literally said it in the blue post
rotund ginkgo
same as evo pointless to do lfr/normal for chances
for gear, diff story
for leggo, pointless
coarse nest
they literally said it in the blue post
It’s at the point where we just let people waist their time if it helps them sleep at night
meager void
its contrary to common sense to understand that getting 3 drop events at x, y, and z % chance is the same as having 1 drop event at x+y+z % chance
rotund ginkgo
155 prima+41 vers>armor/sta
meager void
its contrary to common sense to understand that getting 3 drop events at x, y, a...
but getting this makes you undestand why just doing higher difficulty is fine.
rotund ginkgo
thats between armor and vers
chrome plover
maybe vers is a reasonable consideration
storm meadow
Hello there !
I wonder what's better between keeping T31 Boosts for Bloodbath or spamming BT/BB as much as possible
rotund ginkgo
im running stam rn anyway
just curious
i also run speed instead of watchers loam
chrome plover
technically vers would make you tankier than the armour but yeah it makes 0 meaningful difference
rotund ginkgo
idk the last time i survived on 2k hp
chrome plover
gotta die to like a 12 overkill to notice that one
meager void
a 489 weapon w/o avoidance replacing 483 w/avoidance hurt me deeply.
rotund ginkgo
ilvl always beats tertiary stats
coarse nest
a 489 weapon w/o avoidance replacing 483 w/avoidance hurt me deeply.
Uhhhh
Nah bro you go 6 ilvl on weapon all day
rotund ginkgo
i mean i took 489 shoes over 489 trinket w leech
storm meadow
the best avoidance is when you actually avoid the AOEs 😉
robust widget
the best avoidance is when you actually avoid the AOEs 😉
what if you cant avoid AOEs like BRH last boss
craggy moss
vers or crit flash for raid?
meager void
the best avoidance is when you actually avoid the AOEs 😉
I don't spec into avoiding AoEs sorry
oblique trail
vers or crit flash for raid?
Vers
Crit is technically a bit more DPS, but it's not by a lot and you can run the risk of it killing you
Where Vers is very consistent otherwise
craggy moss
so crit on easy bosses
coarse nest
Same here ban
stuck bison
Yeah also check the uptime if it s not %85 ish doesnt worth taking crit flask i think
oblique trail
I'd just go Vers flask regardless of the boss because it's just always going to be active
lapis yoke
Crit flask is only a 300 dps boost for me now that vers is a more desirable stat so for me it’s never worth it unless I play arms
rustic obsidian
if you do lfr > normal > heroic you get 3 greater ones, but if you do heroic fir...
fck
rotund ginkgo
80% uptime crit sims 1k higher than vers for me so i just run crit
let the healers get better logs
rotund ginkgo
i either parse 80%+ or i die 
rotund ginkgo
Cba pay more
based
oblique trail
You parse by literally just using your CDs on CD
verbal garden
Is Ouroboreal Necklet any good?
eternal sundial
How do you parse on smold hc
Send, go far grab late send
fathom valley
Is it good to use avatar and recklessness at the same time
oblique trail
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TpNwvZrXV2QjGmMY#fight=31&type=damage-done&source=19 if you want a replay of my Smolderon kill
See where I go in the intermission
and just follow it
fathom valley
Or better to do reck rampage of BB rampage avatar?
eternal sundial
Ideal is reck + of into ava after of ava falls
coarse nest
How do you parse on smold hc
-Send all cooldowns sub optimally on pull so they are on cd asap
-delay orbs by dropping them as far away from mid as possible
-once you collect orbs you have the damage buff for your 2nd set of cooldowns
-repeat dropping orbs far from mid each damage phase, cds should continue to align with this
fathom valley
Didn't they fix the bug where we lost second from ava?
oblique trail
Or better to do reck rampage of BB rampage avatar?
Reck + Charge -> Ramp -> OF -> Spear/Roar -> BB -> Ramp -> Avatar -> BB -> Ramp etc is how the opener/CD rotation looks like
oblique trail
Didn't they fix the bug where we lost second from ava?
This was only if you used Berserkers Torment which we dont use anymore
fathom valley
Ahhh true
south kayak
-Send all cooldowns sub optimally on pull so they are on cd asap
-delay orbs by ...
Thanks
turbid barn
is there any use besides the magic reduction for spell reflect in raid?
oblique trail
not really no
storm meadow
is there any use besides the magic reduction for spell reflect in raid?
if you're a tank yes ? IIRC some spells are reflectable
turbid barn
figured there would be for prot, wasnt sure if there was anything to reflect as a dps though.
south kayak
The fact that there isn’t an equivalent for axe is an insult
rotund ginkgo
is good*
god knows id pull hairs out of my head every time id see a fucker like that 420 dk with it
ofc they deserve it the most
gilded pawn
What even is that
delicate flume
So I’m about to ding 70 soon I craft cloak and wrists ? And put vers mast on it?
nocturne dragon
haste I think? with some mastery?
oblique trail
mastery anything works
short term it can change, long term it'll gravitate towards mastery vers
south kayak
There was a ret with axe in my pug grp
restive peak
Versa/mast seems to be the consensus
dawn moon
Is signet good on m+ or better stay on Might + Augury ?
oblique trail
Might + Augury is way more consistent
charred panther
Might + Augury is way more consistent
My opinion as well
oblique trail
Can't think of a scenario where you'd want to use Signet over either one
oblique trail
sucks to suck
left perch
Can't think of a scenario where you'd want to use Signet over either one
just do the OWS trick and chain pull
oblique trail
Only used it because highest ilvl and too lazy to swap gear around
eternal sundial
OWS critter assassination POV
modest condor
torment in a jar?
merry vessel
i have myth track rezan, hero signet and have a choice to take myth track might, what do i take for m+, i do play with a tank where we chainpull a lot tho
eternal sundial
Getting might cant hurt
Especially for those cringe ass Volcoross like bosses that die insta
merry vessel
true thats what i was thinking too
oblique trail
You'd realistically use that Myth track Might the rest of the season in M+
spare otter
spiked counterweight > brand
urban tapir
Might is good on some raid encounters too
merry vessel
is signet a simbait or
minor void
is it just me or do that head enchant so little dmg ? i ran some m+ for crest and it was 0.6 % of the overall dmg??
chrome plover
is signet a simbait or
no
oblique trail
So far it's roughly 2-2.5%~ of my overall in keys
olive wraith
It’s a free enchant lol
oblique trail
You need to look at both Flaying and Scorching torment
Scorching is the AoE proc, Flaying is the ST proc
minor void
It’s a free enchant lol
did you try it on the ptr? there it was really fun to get, now its just a fart in a bag
urban tapir
Head enchant sims 2.7% overall (489 Helm), Rezan trinket @483 is 3.6% overall for comparison (On my ST sim)
oblique trail
It's a passive enchant
You don't have to think about it at all and it's just free damage
chrome plover
always someone complaining about free damage
olive wraith
But it’s still a. Post
oblique trail
Whatever damage it did on the PTR was just obscene
urban tapir
You don't have to think about it at all and it's just free damage
Exactly, i'll take 1-2% free any day lol
dawn sky
Will an item that is 13 ilvls lower with a socket always better?
oblique trail
Not always no
You can sim it for your case
But sockets aren't really that massive compared to better secondaries/more strength
dawn sky
I did. Its shows either a 0,1% upgrade or a 0,1% decrease lol
minor void
still, was more fun when it did some dmg, also a tank, the shield could save your ass, well, its just me then
oblique trail
That's within variance
Which means on average it wont really make a difference if you have the socketed item or whatever you compare it to
The tank enchant from what I saw is still strong
heady wedge
Guys can we get the helm enchant from all difficulty?
oblique trail
Yes
chrome plover
I think so
oblique trail
Both the quest items and ephemera drop from LFR
chrome plover
can i get in, finish this week, and get out of lfr within 20 mins
how long is tank/dps queue
heady wedge
I think i just completed It but i left by mistake xd is the npc only inside ?
chrome plover
and can i do the quest in 1 lfr wing
oblique trail
It took me like 10 min to queue for first wing this morning
dawn sky
So a 69 (nice) strength increase is just whatever? Had other times where a socketed item simed as better
oblique trail
And yes, if you do the Gnarlroot wing then you get enough from killing those 3 bosses
chrome plover
ok might be able to squeeze that in before raid
oblique trail
Where there is a will there's a way
chrome plover
tbh I'll get it from gnarl>volcoross in raid anyway
and then have it for the later bosses
so doesnt really matter
oblique trail
It's 2-3%~ damage so it wont really matter for early bosses
glossy maple
is signet a simbait or
Yeah might is pretty good, also low droprate it seems from my own experience
oblique trail
You can't really go by droprate
chrome plover
but my early boss parses
oblique trail
Every item has an equal chance to drop in keys
Only thing that would change the chance to get an item is how many items there are in that dungeons loot pool
oblique trail
but my early boss parses <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Full cleared HC this morning with the enchant
and banged out multiple top 10-20 parses
heavy sparrow
Honestly, i expected the tier 2 build to be WAY worse for this tier set, but it's honestly kinda close, only 7 k dps behind in pure st
oblique trail
now I can flex with them
chrome plover
🐐
olive wraith
Yeah might is pretty good, also low droprate it seems from my own experience
Doesn’t throne have 9 lootable items
heavy sparrow
I don't really like annihilator, and for me around a 5% dps loss is whithin what i find acceptable
flat sapphire
I got 2 crab and the weapon before the might
heavy sparrow
So i'm just gonna stick with this build
chrome plover
just how fast can you press all your cds before roots die
oblique trail
Happy for you, but the S2 build is still not suited for the S3 tier
heavy sparrow
Yea, but it's "good enough"
heavy sparrow
I'm willing to take the haircut
olive wraith
Did you just drop os?
sullen tendon
ive gotten like 4 might of the oceans and 0 rings out of the 20 fucking tides of done
clever path
PvE moment
olive wraith
I’ve gotten crab and I think every armor piece. No wep
chrome plover
what is the tide ring :s
sullen tendon
what is the tide ring :s
crit>mastery
sims say tide + darkheart is bis for me
cause no mastery vers rings exist this patch
deft thicket
the maximium level of champion items has always been 476? or was it increased?
chrome plover
sims say crafted for me lol
heavy sparrow
Also, burst aoe is kinda out of this world with both rav and odyn
chrome plover
since they are whatever stats you want
sullen tendon
not counting craftedbecause i cant make it right now
chrome plover
mm i made a ring with 3rd spark since it simmed far better than anything else
and will be bis excluding vault
maybe even including vault
oblique trail
I'm willing to take the haircut
I'm definitely not willing to take this haircut
olive wraith
lol
sullen tendon
i used my first spark on neck becaue that was the only piece holdingme back on first week then the next week i got 489 raven filigree from vault
heavy sparrow
I did not lose that much, not even close
crystal summit
I'm definitely not willing to take this haircut
i think he's running OF and ravager
oblique trail
Whichever way the APL rn isn't optimised for using the S2 talent setup with T31
crystal summit
not actually s2 build
chrome plover
yeesh but 2 embellys and farming neck wouldve been way better no?
silent burrow
Yea, but it's "good enough"
lol
sullen tendon
yeesh but 2 embellys and farming neck wouldve been way better no?
that just means i would have to farm 1 dungeon 500 times instead of 2 dungeons 250 times each
oblique trail
That's still a lot
I replaced Onslaught with OF
Like there's just no reason to use the S2 talent setup
If you have T31
sullen tendon
i guess im lucky tide and dht are some of hte shorter dungeons
atleast i dont have to farm rise like agi classes
chrome plover
feeling blessed that I only did atal and brh tbh
oblique trail
Any DHT'ers?
olive wraith
That was me in throne and brh last week
oblique trail
I don't even need anything from any dungeons
ember apex
what time is eu resets
oblique trail
But none of the dungeons are fun
ember apex
i wanna see dem vaults
oblique trail
It's been reset for 12 hours
chrome plover
ur late
sullen tendon
rings holding me back!
i cant spend any crests until i get those rings
stuck at 479
olive wraith
Brh is pretty fun for me
chrome plover
I didnt mind the brh farm
olive wraith
As long as there’s no bm in the group
chrome plover
it's quite a fun dungeon
sullen tendon
or paladin
olive wraith
Paladin is fine
oblique trail
Idk after doing 110 dungeons or so already
sullen tendon
unless they fixed the paladin bug
olive wraith
I gap them in st
oblique trail
They are already boring to me
oblique trail
And I can barely cba with weeklys
sullen tendon
paladins were throwing hammers through cielings pulling the entinre dungeon
olive wraith
Nah bm just explodes that dungeon
sullen tendon
bm is stupid
chrome plover
And I can barely cba with weeklys
i lose points for slytherin if i dont do my weeklies
sullen tendon
bitch the entire expansion about doing 10% less damage than otehr classes then everytime the last patch of the expac they get giga buffed and do 50% more than anyone else
oblique trail
i lose points for slytherin if i dont do my weeklies
I do my weeklies indirectly by farming crests on reset
When I don't need crests, you wont catch me in a dungeon unless forced
torpid slate
Hello fury warriors, iam in big dilema, i have not a single good neck atm so i was thinking to craft lariat, but i could also craft the cloak with shadowflame embelishment, they sim similar, whats likely to be better the lariat as 2nd choice or a shadowflame patch?
sullen tendon
Hello fury warriors, iam in big dilema, i have not a single good neck atm so i w...
do you do m+ or raid more?
torpid slate
I never raid, its mainly m+
olive wraith
Hello fury warriors, iam in big dilema, i have not a single good neck atm so i w...
Are you simming st or aoe
torpid slate
just raiding hc for leggo
sullen tendon
pants
torpid slate
ST, they were similar, simmin on aoe the lariat is 1% more
olive wraith
Lariat will be better once you get sockets
dawn sky
When does Haste start losing value? Wowhead says 25%, im at 41% (according to armory) but sims arent telling me to change my haste sockets. Arent i losing value because of it being so high?
still swift
is banezi un-exposed again by now?
olive wraith
When does Haste start losing value? Wowhead says 25%, im at 41% (according to ar...
Listen to sims
chrome plover
When does Haste start losing value? Wowhead says 25%, im at 41% (according to ar...
link sim
maybe u didnt tick replace existing gems
olive wraith
Also I think armory displays a higher haste
chrome plover
oh yeah armory does tbf
oblique trail
is banezi un-exposed again by now?
I will be on a permanent watchlist from now on
because of my single macro
it's gg
chrome plover
my armory says 35 but in game it's like 21 i think
olive wraith
That much of a difference?
dawn sky
maybe u didnt tick replace existing gems
oh you can do that? Let me go test
olive wraith
I thought it was only like 5%
torpid slate
I feel like haste is super valuable , so much smoother with higher haste than what wowhead says
chrome plover
oh you can do that? Let me go test
im definitely below 25 in game
and armory says 35
so
olive wraith
Don’t trust the feelycraft
dawn sky
im definitely below 25 in game
ingame says im +35,95% or 5226 [+30.67%]
dawn sky
was always so shocked that the sims basically did the kylo ren MORE meme
chrome plover
if you have gems in your gear and dont tick "replace existing" when selecting different gems
past pivot
I feel like haste is super valuable , so much smoother with higher haste than wh...
Lariat is only good when you have all sockets and then it’s still only ok. And haste isn’t great of a stat. Especially if m+ is your main focus.
chrome plover
it will only put the new gems in empty socket items
and keep old gems in already socketed items
urban tapir
it only took 51 runs
gz you're free
past pivot
it only took 51 runs
Now to get it on myth track. Grats tho
mild scarab
What to do here? I mainly play M+, but also raid a bit 😄
spare otter
no more signet+rezans in m+
mild scarab
Is it just might of the ocean angle?
spare otter
feels good
clever path
not a bad vault
oblique trail
Might of the Ocean
past pivot
What to do here? I mainly play M+, but also raid a bit 😄
You know Might is the best trinket for M+, right? You do know that. I’m sure you know that.
clever path
What to do here? I mainly play M+, but also raid a bit 😄
might for sure
mild scarab
You know Might is the best trinket for M+, right? You do know that. I’m sure you...
I do not know that, thank you for pointing it out 😄 - Just recently started playing warrior after years of absence
clever path
bis m+ trinket
mild scarab
Thanks alot guys 😄
dawn sky
Did the replace sockets and nothing changed lol
viscid drift
How close to my sim dps should I be on a target dummy? Feel I have the priority down, but I suppose not as I only reach about 113k of the 155k that I sim.
meager void
Did the replace sockets and nothing changed lol
it happens, there's a check in the results to see the diff gem combos tested in the sim.
oblique trail
How close to my sim dps should I be on a target dummy? Feel I have the priority ...
If you simmed with the target dummy option and that's the comparison, there's a definite issue in your rotation
If the 155k however is with all buffs, then do a target dummy sim and check
dusty aspen
so one of the dps in my raid group implied my damage is only bussin cuz I play arms a while back and I've been malding since. So I decided I wanted to work on a SMF set and go ham on it. Gonna add my disclaimer and say yes I know it won't be as good as TG fury, thank you. Now onto my questions, I assume I can still sim right? Its not like raidbots needs a special profile set up to calculate chad minded fury shit? And simming aside for m+ I assume the best stuff talents to drop for SMF would be the two Vicious contempt nodes? Then from ST I was gonna probably drop bloodcraze and 1 point from vicious contempt, thoughts?
meager void
How close to my sim dps should I be on a target dummy? Feel I have the priority ...
pretty close, I can do more than sim depending on RNG
oblique trail
so one of the dps in my raid group implied my damage is only bussin cuz I play a...
Yes you can still sim it
meager void
if selecting "target dummy" and not patchwerk tho.
atomic pewter
Got Mirror today in vault. Sims 3 k more than my augur when both are 483. What do you think about it? It was a 5 min sim ST.
Have basically not seen anyone play with Mirror in logs.
meager void
even without buffs, patchwerk includes Execute phase
oblique trail
There are no APL differences between SMF and TG
dusty aspen
gotcha ok that was a much simpler way to put the question then the way I asked it lol
meager void
Got Mirror today in vault. Sims 3 k more than my augur when both are 483. What d...
it desyncs really eazy and when it does, all that dmg goes bye bye
dawn sky
it happens, there's a check in the results to see the diff gem combos tested in ...
Where is that? I can't see it. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8DnVDRJ5dEohcTndnh5CGJ
urban tapir
might signet simmed better for me
rotund ginkgo
my next few vaults are likely sockets if no augury <:sadge:820202363359854633>
u want the spare one that dropped in my vault since i already had it on week 2?
urban tapir
but i've been running might + butcher block in mythic+
atomic pewter
it desyncs really eazy and when it does, all that dmg goes bye bye
So you would say stay with Augur and Cataclysmic?
viscid drift
If you simmed with the target dummy option and that's the comparison, there's a ...
Thank you, my bad. I sim about 109k with the target dummy option,
chrome plover
u want the spare one that dropped in my vault since i already had it on week 2?
yes ty
meager void
Where is that? I can't see it. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8DnVDRJ5dE...
its already expanded in your link. Nonetheless, at your gear level I wouldnt worry much about gems, just get more ilvl.
chrome plover
Where is that? I can't see it. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8DnVDRJ5dE...
your problem is right here
!!
meager void
So you would say stay with Augur and Cataclysmic?
its what I run now and yes, I would.
atomic pewter
its what I run now and yes, I would.
Thank you for the fast answer 🙂
chrome plover
past pivot
what do i run now
Do you have anything else? Both Rezan and Signet are more ST-centric and can be very good or very bad in keys.
spare otter
nah got nothing else
atomic pewter
Thought the sims seemed off
chrome plover
rezan usually performs better than brand in keys though
dawn sky
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mZ4tQu2ZgC6qCwxkafaBnf <@2040660520475033...
oh shiiid thanks! This siming always confuses me
past pivot
Signet if your tank chain pulls. Rezan otherwise I guess. Go get a crab.
chrome plover
keep spamming tott for crab then
clever path
they both suck tbh
at least they give main stat 
spare otter
nah im out of tott
urban tapir
Butcher block + Might sims better than crab...at least ill chest my sims sec
rotund ginkgo
yum
past pivot
You’re far from free with those two trinkets for keys
clever path
ok so im running might of the ocean non macroed would it be better to cast it before ava to empower the odyns fury bloodbaths or press it with avatar
oblique trail
Use it before you OF
clever path
assuming u roar before ava as well
ty
the last 10 seconds of ava are useless anyway
you got nothing
clever path
Use it before you OF
so i would reck charge ww ramp might+of roar bb ramp bb ava
oblique chasm
it only took 51 runs
Please dont wish this hell upon me. I'm like 30+ atm
past pivot
@spare otter gore block is another option if ToT’ed out.
clever path
in 2 runs
ashen tundra
Okay so I’m not gonna be able to collect my vault rewards at all next week anyone know if they’ll be waiting for me when I come back or do they go to the void?
oblique trail
Okay so I’m not gonna be able to collect my vault rewards at all next week anyon...
They stay around until you collect it
ashen tundra
Sweet
oblique trail
So you could in theory have 5 vaults lined up at once
past pivot
Okay so I’m not gonna be able to collect my vault rewards at all next week anyon...
They’ll stay until you open. You can even do another raid and they’ll stack.
ember apex
is that what u want to do Cockroach? do another raid and stack ur vault(s)?
silent burrow
^ this is why u have kids btw
Fuck no
ember apex
yeah ok sick
silent burrow
🤷
meager void
I have kids so they can parse better than my friends.
silent burrow
I would have to travel back in time
pulsar steeple
Hey guys, pretty new fury here. I see a lot of furys using 2 x wafting on weapon & also using hising runes instead of what the guides advice? Any clarification on this somewhere ?
ember apex
btw 4 fully loaded vaults 3x gnarlroot kills and still no myth track weapons
ember apex
Hey guys, pretty new fury here. I see a lot of furys using 2 x wafting on weapon...
sim ur character. its different for everyone there's no 'right' answer
i use 1 sophic and 1 wafting
but at some point last season 2x sophic simmed better
pulsar steeple
Can we sim runes also ?
ember apex
yeah but barring some strange interaction usually hissing rune is bis
oblique trail
There are sim strings where you can sim them all, but generally Hissing is just the best
chrome summit
whats best m+ trinkets ppl use?
ember apex
most fury warriors get to ~28-34% haste and then go for other stats if u haven't hit that threshold yet the sim may be trying to get it and then after that ur gonna be going for all other secondaries w/ it leaning towards large mastery little vers and throw in crit randomly b/c that sims higher on occasion.
oblique trail
whats best m+ trinkets ppl use?
Might + Augury typically
ember apex
is this b/c pulls are bigger this season?
chrome summit
ahead of rezan?
neon nacelle
Does sandglass 489 works?
ember apex
yeah rezan is a ST trink
modest condor
or you can get the cheat death trinket because dps is rarely the cause of a deplete
neon nacelle
or should i take 489 tier
rotund ginkgo
or you can get the cheat death trinket because dps is rarely the cause of a depl...
big
chrome summit
what about mirror?
chrome summit
yeah been feeling same
gilded pawn
But main stat though
ember apex
u told me u love FOTM rerollers
thin dew
if you do fyrak lfr first then heroic u still have a chance for lego drop or any kill calculates the maximym possible chance per week?
ember apex
whats ur mastery at b/c i also have 1 ring that sims higher as vers enchant and other w/ mastery enchant
wild mural
mine?
sullen basin
does wf remove any weapon rune/stone
wild mural
pliant berry
that haste kek
wild mural
with double hissing
ember apex
ok that makes sense
wild mural
that haste kek
high or low?
pliant berry
high
wild mural
it feels kinda bad
ember apex
its a tad high
wild mural
like I need more
pliant berry
nope
lavish pond
is it so hard to get a ring with socket?? Jesus
ember apex
"it feels bad"
you cant say nope to this its feels
wild mural
wild mural
"it feels bad"
you cant say nope to this its feels
I feelycraft this game
even if it's lower dps
quick arrow
anyone else get lego yet?
ember apex
i'd upgrade that neck anyways just for crest discount
ember apex
same but in like 2 months
gaunt sonnet
wild mural
prolly get 6/9m tonight
pliant berry
"it feels bad"
you cant say nope to this its feels
ik, just sayin for higher dps dropping a lil haste for mast would be beneficial
wild mural
you know what feels really good tho, no joke - smf feels really good with flurry
this genuinelly feels nutty
ember apex
no joke i just had a full body twitch looking at that tree
pliant berry
same xd
thick prawn
75% of top smolderon parses are wrists of companionship, is that becoming the play? or still 2x shadowflame?
ember apex
ppl doing it early b/c vers is strong for prog
ember apex
im also running cheat death trinket b/c we're like <20 pulls into prog or something
quick arrow
no one else has lego yet?
oblique trail
75% of top smolderon parses are wrists of companionship, is that becoming the pl...
It has been the play for general play since the start of the season
subtle lagoon
everyone but you has lego
oblique trail
2x Shadowflame is only better for pure ST
ember apex
and i'll prob be running cheat death trinket until we're close to tindral kill or need more dps on shields or somthing
silent burrow
cheat death trinket on smolderon 
urban tapir
juicy
glacial tartan
oblique chasm
75% of top smolderon parses are wrists of companionship, is that becoming the pl...
Shadow x2 is the greed play. Wrist is the team player play. If you're talking about just purely your ST damage, shadow x2 pulls ahead by a very small margin.
sullen basin
do i send OF BTs or do i wait for ramp to turn it into BB
oblique trail
If you can't get rage for Rampage, just send the buffed BTs