fury

[hardy remnant]

helm has leech, I have the same with socket tho

[urban tapir]

Neck might be good

[molten relic]

Neck might be good

[hardy remnant]

Ye I think that's what I'm grabbing

[molten relic]

Shitton of verse

[wanton mirage]

should I just take the leg tier piece?

[molten relic]

Myth gloves or pants

[hidden sinew]

ew fuck entangling and bolstering

[molten relic]

Both decent choices

[hidden sinew]

thats not fun for fury

[wild mural]

Look at all these people doing keys

[molten relic]

Can always wait till after ur raid

[wanton mirage]

already got glove

[wild mural]

Free week wtf

Not even affixed

[sullen dove]

entangling is a joke

[molten relic]

OF removes entangling

[sullen dove]

bolster a little more sus

but mostly tank issue

[molten relic]

And so does avatar

[hidden sinew]

nah man if youve had the tanks ive had brother

[molten relic]

And walking out is a non issue u just charge back in

[olive wraith]

Entangling is free

[hidden sinew]

bolstering is not tho. bolster the wrong shit and ur folded.

granted it shouldnt be that hard

[molten relic]

Bolstering is tank issue

[wanton mirage]

would take bolster over incorp or afflicted anyway

[hidden sinew]

but i always seem to have issues tanks on bolstering week.

[wet cloak]

Are servers up?

[molten relic]

Two affixes we can completely ignore

Free week

[hardy remnant]

this is my top gear, F

[molten relic]

Entangle can be shit in waycrest

[olive wraith]

Not free week if you don’t get invites

[molten relic]

Whwre are ur crafts

[hidden sinew]

i got a 483 belt guys it was a meh upg dont feel bad

[hardy remnant]

Im a lazy fck and only have one

[molten relic]

Ring and bracers or ring and belt two fat upgrades

Even 476 ring would be good

And u get free 476 aspect thing from the fyrak wuest

Quest

[unreal onyx]

where's your crafts?

[hardy remnant]

Used it to craft a 1hander

I need to tank to get invited lol

[tepid scroll]

Hmm what would you take. Myth track weapon, hero track signet brand, or 3rd myth track tier piece xD

[hidden sinew]

pretty sure my biggest upgrades right now are crafting the allied bracers and shadowflame cloak

[proper peak]

I haven't tanked anything in like 16 years and I get into keys fine

[hidden sinew]

i had the shadowflame belt from last szn

[wild mural]

Where’s your crafts

[chrome plover]

d you have signet brand already?

and what is your weapon

[tepid scroll]

No @chrome plover have augury tho

[unreal onyx]

ring/bracers/cloak

[molten relic]

Signet farmable

489 wep if ur not doing mythic

[tepid scroll]

Hero Track Smolderon weapon and hero track Gorehowl

[molten relic]

Tho gnarlroot is omega free

[signal shuttle]

Should I bloodthrist w/ ttier bonus if i have no rage do rampage before?

[hollow quiver]

should I use Reck with 1st Odyn's fury of with Avatar when tha Avatar buff from fury fades? I've seen both

[chrome plover]

neither of them are "farmable" they are on a weekly lockout lol

[molten relic]

Yes

[chrome plover]

a farmer doesnt go and work on his fields once a week

[molten relic]

Avatar once ur OF avatar is falling

[tepid scroll]

Best answer is to probably sim it yeah?

[chrome plover]

always

[hollow quiver]

that's not my question

[molten relic]

Reck first

Otherwise u can’t rampage bb rampage bb

[chrome plover]

#fury message

[wanton mirage]

what should i do? tier mythic leg (after catalyst) or socket? Socket is better simwise (more stat gains)

[molten relic]

Won’t have enough rage from the bb to rampage again

[molten relic]

Is the socket for a piece you’re never gonna replace

[unreal onyx]

do you raid myth?

gnarl drops some catalyzable pantaloons

[molten relic]

And do you raid mythic

[wanton mirage]

3/9 mythic should reaach at least 7/9 at the end of season ;D

gonna socket the allies wrist guard if i take

[molten relic]

Not a bad play

Myth pants u could see any week

[urban tapir]

Aspect cap is fucking me on my crafting upgrades

[molten relic]

Gnarl drops some so

[molten relic]

I feel this

Used all my possible upgrades this past week

[urban tapir]

Upgrade myth track or finish crafts...lol

[wanton mirage]

am taking socket then ty

[molten relic]

I have my 3 crafts at 486 now

[urban tapir]

especially 60 aspects for 1 enchanted crest

[molten relic]

Will have 60 aspects to work with this week

Hopefully I get an augury from vault

[urban tapir]

I need to upgrade hero track might + myth track gear so I don't think ill be able to do any 476 -> 486 this week

[urban tapir]

🙏

[modest condor]

yeah that's kind of the point, after last tier where you had everything maxed out by the 2nd week

[urban tapir]

i just wanna be juiced

[molten relic]

Ring can stay 476 ngl

[molten relic]

482 still manageable without mythic raiding

Which is wild this early into the tier

[eternal sundial]

Idk man i cant use my wyrm ones anymore that's cringe as hell

[chrome plover]

wyrms are dead 🦀

[molten relic]

U can upgrade them

[proper peak]

I decided to do my 3rd craft with aspects cause I did a ring as that should last for a bit

[molten relic]

To other

[restive peak]

About to go get legendary bois wish me luck

[chrome plover]

yeah to get to cap faster

but if you arent in a rush to cap aspects

it's useless

[molten relic]

I did 476ring on week one with the free fyrak token thing

Then did 486 cloak and bracers

[chrome plover]

i went all three 476

more damage to send aspects on other upgrades

[unreal onyx]

I am 2x 486 1x 476

[chrome plover]

for me

had 2x free 476 though, from fyrakk and 20 renown

[molten relic]

All my myth gear 489

Which is only two pieces

[lavish pond]

guys did they added any nerfs on fury warriors? cause my overall damage stats are lower now without changing anything..

[proper peak]

I used the 2 free wyrms for embellished cloak and bracers

[molten relic]

Gorehowl and shoulders

[unreal onyx]

I need aspects to upgrade on my stuff

[eternal sundial]

I made 476 wrist and ring 486 cloak

Idk doesnt matter man

[hidden sinew]

best way to get splitered sparks?? this season

[eternal sundial]

Next week i up wrists + x

Do the rep

[molten relic]

476 crafts are fine

[hidden sinew]

i need like 3

[unreal onyx]

rep?

[eternal sundial]

Yes the weekly

Guaranteed spark half

[hidden sinew]

yeah does it drop from world content pretty easy too?

[unreal onyx]

ahh yea

[proper peak]

this week is a catalyst charge right

[unreal onyx]

yes

[eternal sundial]

Ye

[proper peak]

I've been lucky and havent had to use a charge yet

[restive peak]

Gonna upgrade my ring to 486 to let all rings be freely blasted up today bois, big brain

[covert blaze]

the ones that you are catching up to yeah, the weekly drops the current week's one

[unreal onyx]

im also still on all my charges

[molten relic]

M+ will give spark fragments

And raid bosses can too

[olive wraith]

Why can’t I get a damn weapon

[unreal onyx]

I feel you

[molten relic]

Same

[unreal onyx]

I got lucky twice last week

[molten relic]

The one in after is orange text

496

I have 100 boss kills and no leggo

[proper peak]

at the rate my vault keeps going I'll have all 5 pieces of myth track tier from it and can use my catalyst charges for mog

[molten relic]

[olive wraith]

I wanna replace my 463 oh

Please blizz

[molten relic]

Just get leggo

Then ur main hand becomes offhand

[unreal onyx]

I am 3/4 myth track tier so far

[molten relic]

Ez

[unreal onyx]

shoulders are still hero

my chest has leech

[molten relic]

I have none. But 489 shoulders rn

[rigid stirrup]

mythic pips in vault

[molten relic]

Speed shoulders that are crit hasye

Haste

No need to catalyst rn

[proper peak]

I got hero helm and champ shoulders for tier still other 3 pieces are myth track thanks to my last 3 vaults

[molten relic]

My char is zoomin rn tho I have two 489 pieces with speed

[unreal onyx]

isn't crit/haste the objectively worst stats for most?

[pliant berry]

Who’s ready for the weekly facepalm

Vault*

[molten relic]

Eh

Kinda mid

[proper peak]

running 5/5 feels bad I should try and get an off piece for helm or shoulders

[molten relic]

Tier shoulders have it

Tho they’re high crit low haste

[fading bane]

not really any great offpiece shoulders

easier to get pants from gnarlroot or helm from council

[proper peak]

what about m+

[fading bane]

cant remember at the top of my head

[fading bane]

but they only go to 483 unless from vault

[ebon shore]

the helm from atal is good

forgot the name

[fading bane]

there are some good pants aswell

[proper peak]

I have no mythic raiding plans so my myth track is all vault anyway

[fading bane]

high mastery, think its BRH

[pliant berry]

Ring is good stats decent vault

[ebon shore]

the ring is pretty insane

gz

[narrow narwhal]

pog

[pliant berry]

Gorehowl inc copium

[narrow narwhal]

there can't be 2 perry's

[glad tangle]

think i'm going with the ring too

[acoustic furnace]

Ring is BiS for Fury

[pliant berry]

Yea

[glad tangle]

i already have mythic track of those pants too

[wraith wharf]

..i got another mythic raven filligree pandant in my vault, and a spore trinket

[tame pilot]

Chest sims higher but I feel its easier to get another than to get a myth track raven. We feeling raven going to be BIS for a long while?

[plush flower]

[silent burrow]

We're ring gamers this week

[pliant berry]

Ouch

[acoustic furnace]

Twisted bark isn't bad if you need a ring

[glad tangle]

oooh nice socket @silent burrow

[gentle lily]

sup guys whats the best combo for single? fyrakk and smold trinket? or ocean with one of these

[eternal sundial]

No avoidance socket vault ring wtf

[silent burrow]

Robbed

[eternal sundial]

I got a bark with sockie and avoid

[silent burrow]

Jesus

you're cracked

[acoustic furnace]

I'd sim it. Crit/Mas may very well be better than the haste verse ring.

[mossy fox]

give those trinkets please ty

just email them

[acoustic furnace]

I meant haste verse lol

[plush flower]

got some more for you to choose from

[mossy fox]

augury would be nice

anything farmable i already have

raid or vault only is trickier

[plush flower]

everything dps downgrade on sims unless i take for a socket in upcoming weeks

[pliant berry]

Anyone get mythic augury?

[plush flower]

took atal ring last week to socket later

[acoustic furnace]

I'd just take a socket then to prep for Lariat

[fading bane]

lariat isnt even good with full sockets

[sage smelt]

489 crab trinket, better than nothing i guess

[mossy fox]

anyone remember sporecloak

[wild mural]

I’m pretty sure I’m gonna be taking a socket

[eternal sundial]

Considering 180 ppl killed it

Prolly someone

[wild mural]

Mines 447

[fading bane]

running a 476 cloak still, wouldve been nice to have sporecloak ngl

[acoustic furnace]

Sporecloak didn't deserve the nerf 😦

[pliant berry]

Fr

[fading bane]

weve had like 3-4 smolderon cloaks drop, but still nada

[past pivot]

Crab is very good

[fading bane]

every spec in the game and it didnt deserve nerf susge

but the nerf was insane

[acoustic furnace]

I understand that they wanted to make us use the new embellishments but sheesh man

Everything even remotely good caught the nerf weenie

[modest condor]

i mean yeah sporecloak ended up being a little bit too strong with the vers above 70% or whatever it is

[blissful mountain]

i got a tank trinket looting arms as a fury spec 😦

[modest condor]

but they didnt have to nerf it by 75%

the shield is now smaller than the one from the ring from broodkeeper i think

[molten relic]

I wouldn’t even be mad about that trinket

[past pivot]

Loot Arms spec. No reason to loot fury spec

[fading bane]

its better than most dps trinkets

[blissful mountain]

i do loot arms! Thats why im confused

[acoustic furnace]

Isn't it technically bad to loot as fury since you can get 1Hs from vault?

[molten relic]

Primary stat and verse is sick

[molten relic]

Yes

Always arms spec

[vague sand]

Only way arms is good

[acoustic furnace]

Arms is good against council but outside of that yeah Fury is simply better

[fading bane]

good for the boss where dps matters the least

[acoustic furnace]

Yeeaaahhh

[noble elm]

I have a 483 offhand and the only possible arms vault upgrade for me is a 489 throne weapon. Do I vault prot for fyrakk trinket?

[acoustic furnace]

Wait is Augury prot loot?

[pliant berry]

Tainted heart

[olive wraith]

You got the good trinks already

?

[split coyote]

https://gyazo.com/9f582b1e48ef7ad51d171bf36f31ae7e
Taking weapon I'm pretty sure since Gnarlroot never drops it.

[ember apex]

theres no way theres more items as arms lootspec

[olive wraith]

Run your raid before looting vault

[ember apex]

prot can roll all Str 1h types + shields

[olive wraith]

?

[ember apex]

im saying i think prot has a bigger loot table

vs arms

b/c theres more items in it

[noble elm]

Yes I have Aug might and rezan

[olive wraith]

Then ya I guess prot loot make sense

What about brand

[noble elm]

No but I think it’s on prot table?

[olive wraith]

Is it?

Thought it was dps

[noble elm]

Have to check

[abstract grail]

augury? no

[noble elm]

Signet brand

[abstract grail]

oh

also no, according to journal

[noble elm]

Sad

[olive wraith]

Do you offspec prot at all

Getting a shield wouldn’t be awful

[noble elm]

Yeah I have to tank for my guildies

20-23 usually

[rose current]

where can i find best talent builds for fury with 4set bonus

[olive wraith]

Wowhead

[noble elm]

Pins

[ember apex]

wowhead has it

[daring brook]

hi, how should I sim targets and time for mythic plus

[olive wraith]

Dungeon slice is decent

[noble elm]

I’m sending it arms

[olive wraith]

Good luck out there warrior

https://tenor.com/view/iamproudofyou-my-hero-gif-18489622

[daring brook]

oh im dumb I never clicked on that tab lmao ty

[noble elm]

Sad, socket week

[patent cove]

Won’t you lose your vault if u raid before looting?

[olive wraith]

F

No

Your vault stays until you loot it

[trim canyon]

Well I was hoping for another tier piece in the vault...

[olive wraith]

Logged on to my pally and it had a s2 vault

[rigid stirrup]

i'm surprised these LFR ques are taking so long

[noble elm]

Yes kind of but I only casual raid so I don’t plan on getting upgrades

[rigid stirrup]

i just wanna speedrun the enchant

[robust widget]

bro has the entire 5p in the vault

[noble elm]

2 capes, a pips, and a 483 eggshell

[olive wraith]

Rip

[ember apex]

werent u saying earlier how much u **LOVED ** eggshell

"i love that item" i remember u saying it

[noble elm]

No - I wasn’t saying anything earlier about eggshell but if I was it would be about how shit it is

[ember apex]

its ur favorite item

embrace the eggshell

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/800812796647833632.gif?size=48&name=huggies&quality=lossless

[craggy moss]

guys i only have 37/50 echos. have ccleared n hc and hc.No Mail

[pliant berry]

Do lfr @ punisher

[olive wraith]

Go solo nelth

[fading bane]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-believes-that-helm-enchant-will-be-available-to-all-players-next-week-336673?webhook

[ember apex]

poggers

so we're all getting it except punisherRIP

[ember apex]

lul

might as well delete mine

man i cant wait until i get my helm enchant im gonna do so much cool sstuff

[rigid stirrup]

what are they cookin

[ember apex]

what u gonna do w/ ur helmet enchant @craggy moss

oh wait

nvm

thats fine

after they hotfixed anvil in S2

i learned to roll need on all trinkets

and keep them all season long

incase they get buffed

[olive wraith]

Wonder if it’ll be any good

[eternal sundial]

I got a speed one hope it's usable

[vocal igloo]

got augury and brand i vault lol...

[olive wraith]

Aug

100%

[serene moat]

Is Spiked Counterweight now any good?

[vocal igloo]

oh counterweight buffed too? i got that also; not even joking

[ember apex]

it's prob a wait and see angle until they update sim'

[olive wraith]

It just got buffed lol

Give it a min

[ember apex]

if u have one and u have Flightstones i'd just max upgrade it and see whats up w/ it

[odd whale]

of course my alt dh gets signet and my warrior's vault is meh

[meager void]

its a very big buff on that trinket

from 15% to 40% extra damage man

[normal yoke]

Gonna wait to see what sims look like.

[ebon shore]

it's also very shit so will see how much that actually means

[pliant berry]

Nutty vault

[rigid stirrup]

This is the god vault

[ebon shore]

that belt

[chilly fractal]

Yea like wtf

[frosty scroll]

spiked counterweight will be getting buffed, is it worthwhile with that?

[vocal igloo]

wait 24-48 hours for sims to update and find out

[normal yoke]

Ye, is good. But if trinket ain't the pick, shoulders will be.
Actually, shoulders will probably still be the pick for the raw main stat alone.

[fading bane]

Spiked Counterweight got a 20% buff

its not nearly enough to be considered good

[clever path]

10% initial and 40% extra

[fading bane]

20% overall

i did math

[clever path]

still bad?

[fading bane]

at 411 cus its what tooltip is at

[quiet oak]

was going to ask if its now worth it, cause i have one sitting in my bag lol

[ebon shore]

oh yh for sure shoulders

so u can replace helm aswell

[clever belfry]

why not just plug them into a fraction rofl

[fading bane]

bro

i dont do maths

[chilly fractal]

Fuck math

[clever path]

200948/166763 = 1.2049915149

[pliant berry]

Fr

[clever belfry]

this is like

middle school

[vocal igloo]

so brand actually simming higher for me than augury

[clever belfry]

on st fully expected yes

[fading bane]

think uhh

[clever path]

extremely fight dependant

[fading bane]

smarter

not

harder

[normal yoke]

Brand is bis in ST

[clever path]

i wouldnt run it over augury on st until smolderon mythic

[odd whale]

augury is so good and much harder to get

[clever path]

nothing lives long enough

[clever belfry]

u didnt think at all there kign

[errant vessel]

so is augury tbf

[normal yoke]

Well, yeah. True

[fading bane]

yes i did, i was like "i could spend 1 min to remember the correct way to calculate this"

[pliant berry]

Proceeds to spell 4 letter word wrong

[fading bane]

but i just got on the percentage increase calculator page instead

[clever belfry]

kang

[fading bane]

damn

[normal yoke]

And Augury has more benefit in MT/M+

[fading bane]

you just got got

[clever belfry]

yeah got rolled

faaark

[proper peak]

are you really expecting perfect spelling in a warrior chat

[pliant berry]

Gotchu bro

[ebon shore]

aren't u supposed to be running both

[clever path]

i would run rezans augury

i would replace rezans with signet

on smolderon>

[wild mural]

Yes, please also sign off your messages. Thank you

[ebon shore]

why tho?

[fading bane]

huh

[clever path]

i mean it depends on ur kill timer

[fading bane]

hc maybe

[wild mural]

I would replace deez with nutz

[chilly fractal]

Got em

[fading bane]

signet vs rezan

[clever path]

what fight

[pliant berry]

Isn’t signet the best st trinket

[clever path]

and whats the kill timer

[proper peak]

what you do is just hack blizzard and run double augury

[urban tapir]

[ebon shore]

yea idk signet just seems infinitely better

[fading bane]

smolderon ofc

[clever path]

it is

[fading bane]

with normal kill timer

[clever path]

ye no shit on smolderon

try running it on igira

[clever belfry]

rezans furry 😔

[clever path]

and see the damage

[olive wraith]

Signet is better the longer the fight is

[clever path]

or volcoross

with a 4 minute kill timer

[wild mural]

Furries

[fading bane]

but u specified u wouldnt on smold tho huh

[wild mural]

I am summoned

[clever path]

no i said

[modest condor]

smolderon also depends on where you get procs

[clever path]

smolderon>

so smolderon tindral fyrakk

[fading bane]

fair

[clever path]

also real

[modest condor]

also augury bis on smolderon

[spare otter]

why?

[modest condor]

it double dips from damage increases

[ember apex]

i love double dipping

[modest condor]

because it takes a percentage of your hit, if you do more damage then the damage of the trinket is also higher

and then the proc itself also gets increased by the damage bonus

[spare otter]

ooooohhh

[wild mural]

I only found out about double dipping yesterday

[ember apex]

its like dipping once but then double

[fading bane]

wasnt a kill tho

[spare otter]

thats cool actually

[fading bane]

ive had pulls with 10%

[silent burrow]

I've seen logs where augury was top damage on kills

[cedar egret]

Hello! First message here, just got my fury warrior to 70.

[silent burrow]

diff class tho

[fading bane]

on havoc prob

[silent burrow]

yep

[clever belfry]

havoc has a lot more stuff that does dmg tho

[cedar egret]

Question: what build should I go if I don't have ANY set? No t30 nor T31

[modest condor]

highest i've had on a kill was 13% i think

[clever belfry]

its not all bloodbath

[rigid stirrup]

Augury is my fav because it's consistent af

[modest condor]

T30

[cedar egret]

ty

[ember apex]

no. thank YOU

[spare otter]

we all getting augury tomorrow boys

[modest condor]

well i guess technically highest i've had on a kill was 35%

on ozumat

[silent burrow]

I got a ring...

[modest condor]

12mil augury proc

[clever belfry]

ozumat 😴

[ember apex]

the last boss in fall when ur in the bubl

is how warrior dps should feel

ALL THE TIME

[modest condor]

wish they just divided the damage by 20 rather than completely removing it from details

[clever belfry]

yeah its a dogshit solution

[fading bane]

just remember how much dmg u did

and add it with maths (im good at maths)

[silent burrow]

But it fun to see big numbr

[ember apex]

dude next expansion gonna be poggers

no stat squish

i cant wait zone into castle nathria and 1phase WW mythic sire denathrius

gonna be sick

[clever path]

i hate how

now on ozumat

[frail prism]

483 signet brand vs 489 rezan's eye in vault.... any advice?

[patent dust]

Spiked counterweight good now? 40% seems big.

[modest condor]

[clever path]

ur damage slowly gets reduced

[ember apex]

sim it

[clever path]

when u kill ink and fight ozumat

cause u are not dealing any damage it counts as phase 2

[fading bane]

its a 20% increase to its proc dmg

[white holly]

Might compete but chances are still worse then rezans

[ebon shore]

highly doubt it'll compete

[modest condor]

i dont see it getting anywhere close

[patent dust]

But it increases damage the target takes from you, could make a wild smolderon parse if it procced right.

[fading bane]

483 signet beats 489 rezan any day

[vague sand]

I have faith in counterweight so just took a mythic track counterweight

[ebon shore]

oh no

[compact knot]

Bro 😭

[fading bane]

aintnoway

[compact knot]

You could have atleast waited a little bit before sending that shit

[modest condor]

bait

[spare otter]

i respect it

man has a plan

[ember apex]

u accuse everyone of bait

[fading bane]

well, there is a lot of bait

[ember apex]

hey guys what do u think about my transmog.
"bait"

hey guys how come this is showing up as so high on my logs?
"bait"

[vague sand]

let me cook guys

[modest condor]

no i just accuse the people that are baiting of bait

[ember apex]

he's allowed to bait

[modest condor]

like when someone comes in and says they have killed 100 bosses and still havent looted the legendary and they're scared that they are falling behind

that's clearly bait

so i call it bait

[fading bane]

that do sound like bait

[naive swallow]

ButwAIT

[ember apex]

no one has ever said that in the history of the world

[naive swallow]

wtf we talkin bout

[spare otter]

guys ive killed heroic fyrakk twice now and havent got leggo

am i falling behind?

[vague sand]

gimme a 100 weeks and ill cook for ya

[compact knot]

I killed 200 frank no legendary drop sad face

[naive swallow]

ur not falling behind

ur getting baited

[vague sand]

isnt the bait to actually get the leggo tho?

[naive swallow]

tru

1 million bait

[ember apex]

the president of dragonflight fyrakk obama says that my legendary will be coming w/ my 2024 tax return to orgriammar revenue service

[modest condor]

no the bait is the thing you use when you're fishing

[sonic magnet]

i can kill lfr fyrakk without fucking my heroic aye?

[ebon shore]

wait can u actually spam fyrakk for legendary drop even after lockout?

[compact knot]

Bait

[lavish pond]

does lfr gives u the item that helps u get the legendary?

[vague sand]

in the enxt episode of fact or cap

[fading bane]

there were reports of lessers dropping on rekills weeks ago lol

[white holly]

I don't believe so, but it still can drop (On an extreamly low chance) the legendary

[lavish pond]

ok i see, thanks

[cunning moth]

counterweight buff meaning anything ?

[vague sand]

I think u have a very low chance on lfr fyrakk to get a greater

[ember apex]

statistically there's gotta be 1 person who only does LFR who is gonna get the leggo on their first LFR fyrakk kill

[vague sand]

means we taking it now, vendor rezan

[white holly]

Best way to figure it out is to go and kill it 😛

[clever path]

[cunning moth]

real or troll ? i have on hero track 😄

[vague sand]

actually, vendor all trinkets and equip two counterweights

one on each leg

[spiral idol]

oh hell yeah we doing DBZ weight training now

[vague sand]

nah im capping, we gotta wait for sims to be updated I guess

[red peak]

Tfw counterweight hero track was actually an upgrade

[modest condor]

if d2's high level maths are correct then spiked counterweight gets buffed from 3% behind signet brand to 2% behind signet brand

[red peak]

Is... That good?

[vague sand]

not good enough

[modest condor]

if you wanna do 2% less damage rather than 3% less it is good

[red peak]

Lol

I also lack signet

[vague sand]

rezan still better then? sadge

[restive peak]

We got a normy augury

We take that

[modest condor]

yes rezan most likely still better

[past pivot]

Why is that?

[vague sand]

who knows, the math just works out that way

maybe more ppm than counterweight?

[restive peak]

So is augury simming properly, or whats the play? I now have 483 aug, 483 brand, 489 rezan, 483 ocean

[past pivot]

I mean what's wrong with Razan's? You seem to think something is wrong with it

[restive peak]

Obvi gonna augury+ocean for M+

[vague sand]

Oh no, im sadge cuz I dont have it

lol

[past pivot]

lol

[clever path]

Counterweight hupe

Got a 483, doubt its better than 489 rezan and 489 moto

[raw scarab]

is it best to open vault in arms loot spec?

to avoid 1h?

[restive peak]

Yes

Always be arms loot spec bro

[past pivot]

Always. No reason for fury spec

for loot

[sudden sun]

Should we do LFR - Normal - Heroic fyrakk? our just doing heroic its the same?

[past pivot]

Either way. Chances are same

[sudden sun]

But what about the adittional greater tokens we get when killing fyraak and dont looting the leggo

[vague sand]

I got two greaters before reset, one on normal and one on heroic

[past pivot]

Doesn't matter, you get the same blp

[ebon shore]

higher drop chance on heroic tho so I guess technically lfr > normal > heroic is better

[vague sand]

not sure if I was lucky or if ti was because I didnt get any greater the week the leggo opened up

[fading bane]

you dont need to touch normal

it just rolls the normal and hc chance at same time

so if its 1% from normal 2% from hc

it rolls 2 seperate rolls

[ebon shore]

what about the greater tho

[fading bane]

they dont add up to 3% for 1 roll

[frozen lake]

The chance to drop+ the blp you get include all the lower difficulties

[vague sand]

but u dont get 2 greaters, do u

[fading bane]

yes

[sudden sun]

So the greaters are just a lie

[fading bane]

but the one greater just has the normal blp included

[vague sand]

dang

[fading bane]

the tokens are just there for u to see that u gained blp

[vague sand]

So its a less greater than a greater greater

[fading bane]

you dont even need to use the tokens

[hardy fog]

Blizzard sugar pills.

[vague sand]

lazy ass indie companu

[ebon shore]

do we have any info on how much they actually increase the drop chance

[vague sand]

having me burning myself for nothing? fr

[past pivot]

no

[fading bane]

well u see more screenshots of ppl getting them each week

[fading bane]

u still get the blp

[robust widget]

so not considering the time factor, im not really losing any chance by doing normal first then heroic?

[fading bane]

it just happens when u kill, not when u consume token

[fading bane]

yes

[ebon shore]

shroud said 5% for greater but pretty sure that's just a random number he thought of

[subtle rock]

I wonder if the new spiked counterweight buffs are gonna make it a top trink

[frozen lake]

Your aren't losing anything but you aren't gaining either

[modest condor]

if blp numbers were known they would be all over wowhead

[fading bane]

we dont know if you do have higher chance if you clear 8/9 hc and mythic first for lessers tho

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[robust widget]

ye i know, was just wondering

[vague sand]

any1 has actually seen lesser ones drop?

[hardy fog]

I've seen 4

[fading bane]

plenty

[patent dust]

Several times

[night dune]

Ayo how the hell does Nomral Tindral neck have more mastery on it than a 476 Chain of the Green Flight

[ebon shore]

I haven't

[subtle rock]

I had 4 drop in one full heroic clear

[vague sand]

wtf

[night dune]

Get the itemization designer off that nut shit bro

[past pivot]

If anything, don't expect BLP to give like 10% chance to loot it each week. More like less than 1.0%. Probably a lot less. Evoker BLP was guesstimated at like 0.03% per week

[fading bane]

cus its got different stat distribution?

[supple fractal]

spiked counter weight changes make it any good?

[fading bane]

nope

[supple fractal]

didn't think so lol

[hardy fog]

There's no way it was that low was it? We were seeing someone globally get it like every 5 seconds.

[frozen lake]

.03 is too nuts low, every evoker I know had it at the end of the patch

[past pivot]

Hardly

[frozen lake]

1% probably more likely

[vague sand]

I thought evoker BLP guaranteed it after like a certain amount of kills

[fading bane]

it gained 20% dmg

[clever belfry]

no.

[patent dust]

At what mastery break do you move to verse for better gains?

[past pivot]

Nope

[fading bane]

and if u look on bloodmallet, add like 1% to it

[past pivot]

When sims tell you to

[hardy fog]

My guild had 4 separate evoker legendaries and none of them waited past 10 kills. The very last one was the 10th heroic kill

[vague sand]

thats what im saying

[past pivot]

And that means nothing. Some just getting it. Some still don't have it after weekly heroic or mythic kills.

[vague sand]

every evoker I know had it at some point

[hardy fog]

So you're telling me that we got 4 drops on a 3% estimated drop chance.

[pearl shale]

Legendary is always a 50% drop chance

[past pivot]

And you know every evoker in the game? NA, OCE and EU?

[vague sand]

Im the evoker incarnate itself

[arctic salmon]

man this tier + the 30-40 second cd of rav/rec/avatar from last season would be so much fun

[vague sand]

I feel my evoker bros

[fading bane]

what is even the point in argueing on drops, where we have legit 0 knowledge of how the blp or droprates work lmao

[gaunt delta]

You either get it or you don’t. I see what you did

[dire badge]

everyone knows you get it when you deserve it

[elfin oriole]

What stats do you craft?

[hardy fog]

Sim it. Fluctuates based on your stat pool.

[summer bobcat]

what emblisih should we craft for raiding?

[modest condor]

2x shadowflame or 1x shadowflame 1x vers wrist

[hardy fog]

Most are using shadowflame on bracers and cloak, but a few have vers bracers.

[summer bobcat]

great thanks

[fallen ginkgo]

same for m+?

[naive summit]

whats the fastest way to get flight stones

need lik 600 rn

[past pivot]

Plumber addon

[fading bane]

the haste pants and vers wrists are good

or you can just run BSL

[naive summit]

i see how can u use this addon for flightstones?

[night dune]

Fair but still what the hell am I looking at

[hollow elk]

Seed farming

[past pivot]

Grind plants in the ED. Tracks it for you. Throw on a movie and just flyy around.

[night dune]

Also of note: 480 gloves at ~200ish mastery but still being an upgrade if I convert my pants to tier for a mastery netloss

When I'm alr sub-50%

[fading bane]

higher ilvl means more total stat, but the distribution of the stats depends on the item

[naive summit]

ah so open world is the fastest way

bet

[hollow elk]

Find a nice YouTube video or w.e and start planting seeds on a route and pick em up on a route

[fading bane]

stop thinking about stats like this

its not how it works

[naive summit]

flightstones alone will give me like 5 ilvl i swear

[white pollen]

should i go with eye of the rising flame or raven filigree pendant for the neck slot?

[past pivot]

What do your sims say?

[hollow elk]

Sim

[calm mantle]

Fury chat is the new sim

[uneven plaza]

dh and hunt were dead most of the time but shhh

[meager void]

Britney doesn make those Dancing Blades work

[haughty token]

How bad is new spiked counterweight

[uneven plaza]

giga ass

[haughty token]

Thought so

It might be good if it ever procd

[late ivy]

new socket now on its 2nd week 😎

[clever path]

counterweight sim updated?

[fading bane]

20% dmg increase

add 1% to it if u look on bloodmallet

its nothing special

its like Serpent Idol lvl

[gaunt zephyr]

Hey there, quick question: Does someone know where i can find the animation of the use effect of the legendary axe? 🤔 (none on wowhead or i'm blind)
I'm curious as what it does/how the use work

[eternal sundial]

u kinda just jump

looks hella goofy

[molten relic]

Meeres has clips on twitch

It’s a charge then 3 second channel

[gaunt zephyr]

Oh, need to find it then, thanks for telling ^_^

[molten relic]

Just google “meeres legendary axe” prob comes up

[silent gazelle]

Blue silken gaming

[past pivot]

lol that's funny.

[gaunt zephyr]

Found it, thanks a lot ^_^

[errant vessel]

you guys know if you can use abilities in legendary wep channel (like aegis in HoV) or if it's interruptable by other actions?

[spiral orbit]

Any thoughts on 489 Rezan or 489 Gorehowl in vault? Gorehowl sims higher but i have a path to a 489 weapon with mythic gnarlroot and future vaults as well as the leggo. i might not ever see rezan again.

[eternal sundial]

you can set the other wep to 489 in topgear

[spiral orbit]

i have the rezan alrdy at 483

[calm mantle]

Vault kinda disappointing me

[ebon shore]

belt is nice

[fading bane]

its the best belt in the game

[ebon shore]

isn't the one from tindral better

[fading bane]

not at max ilvl

[calm mantle]

Which belt? Sim said rivet belt for me

[fading bane]

but like its all dependent, if the rest of ur gear has no haste then the tindral one could pull ahead

[fading bane]

vers mast one

[calm mantle]

Ah so my sim is just being stinky based on my other stats

Keep simming rivet hiigher for some reason

[ebon shore]

rivet is good aswell

[fading bane]

in ur current gear the other is maybe better, but the vers mast belt is a better belt in general

[ebon shore]

but aren't u lacking haste

with bis gear

[calm mantle]

I'll take the vers mastery since myth track and I have a socket ready

[ebon shore]

so rivet becomes better

[fading bane]

if u somehow lack haste, then ur sim wil just shift sockets and enchants

or you remake a crafted piece

[calm mantle]

Rivet doesn't give haste anyways.

Once again I shall spend another week with a 447 trinket :c

[atomic nymph]

Can't use anything else, cannot cancel. Full 3s self-stun basically

[vivid moth]

Vault spawn bis belt, I got nothing this vault - lmao

[vivid moth]

Grab another socket in a week

[subtle lagoon]

Is ember of nullification a troll trinket?

[fading bane]

no

its just a stat stick

[subtle lagoon]

str and versa, yeah

[mellow bobcat]

Are you guys full clearing raids or hopping right into fyrakk kill

[naive summit]

how much should i contribute to seeds for max flightstone farm?

and do i need to stay to loot it?

[hard bolt]

Hey guys, new to warrior so this might be a dumb question, but is there a reason crafted weapons are not in any of the bis lists? (I understand simming is best, but am just curious what you guys think)

[fading bane]

you get flightstones from the seed, so yes u have to loot

[past pivot]

read plumber directions

[naive summit]

is it on the options or on curseforge?

[compact knot]

Dropped mythic gear is 3 ilvl higher than crafted gear

[past pivot]

Curseforge at least.

[compact knot]

At max

[dire vigil]

Ruby Whelp Shell still BIS?

[compact knot]

Ye

[past pivot]

Crafted weapons not recommended. Too easy to get others from vault, raid and dungeons

[naive summit]

yea doesnt say anything about how much to contribute. how do the seeds work... like whats the best amount of dewdrop to flightstone ratio

[past pivot]

Like 1 seed per to maximize what you get back

[naive summit]

ah bet

ty

[hard bolt]

So it’s just because we will have chances for mythic 2H’s from vault and it’s just the ilvl difference? Interesting, thanks

[past pivot]

In this case, the idea is to get flight stones, not to maximize the rewards so spend as little as possible.

[ebon shore]

could prob justify making one if u already got the cloak and bracers and u got a shit weapon but that's about it

[past pivot]

Otherwise, you'd normally spend the most to get the most back per

[clever path]

it's because myth track gear is higher ilvl than crafted gear and its pretty easy to get a myth track weap this season

gnarlroot drops one on mythic and its an easy boss

[plucky otter]

does LFR count towards legandary? since the wing is now out this week

[fading bane]

there is no point in doing lfr

if you kill fyrakk on normal or hc

[clever path]

thats why you craft gear on low impact slots

cloak/wrists

feet

[plucky otter]

oh okay

[rotund steppe]

man

week 4

still no trinkets

[blissful mountain]

anyone else feel fury gets shafted for weapon crafting?

[inland flame]

Time to craft a 486 alch stone /s

[rotund steppe]

tbh im thinking on it

[inland flame]

Man that's tough lol what do you even have?

[rotund steppe]

lol i got a pip barge from vault

but b4 that

i was running anvil

[inland flame]

Struggle bus

Haven't gotten Rezan yet somehow, and no raid trinks, but I have myth Crab and hero Might Block and Mirror.

[dark ice]

whats the lowest key to get the best vault ?

can be through upgrades

so mythic track ?

[paper ivy]

18

[dark ice]

thx

[inland flame]

16 is aspects 17 is hero drops 18 is myth vault.

[dark ice]

and when do I stop suck at this game ?

[inland flame]

Someone less lazy put the Invincible meme here.

[subtle rock]

I wonder how much a dps increase the new helm enchant is gonna give

[frail trout]

You can sim it right now in raidbots

Been there since day 1 basically

[subtle rock]

oh, well then, brb

[compact knot]

It does, but they aren't even bis so why do it.

[frail trout]

In the enchant options at the bottom

[fading bane]

its like 5-6k for me

[frail trout]

Wait really

[snow flower]

I'm about ilvl 475 with not ideal stat distributuon and it was about 2.6% of my DPS on a few bosses - about 5k DPS

[frail trout]

I haven't simmed it since I was like 460 ilvl

It was around 2k at that time

[subtle rock]

im 480, so shouldnt be that much difference

[clever path]

it was pretty big on ptr

[compact knot]

Wasn't it doing like 20k dps on ptr

I cant remember

[clever path]

no clue but it was crazy

[compact knot]

It was alot

[sturdy wagon]

Got a Greater Ember of Fyr'alath from LFR Fyrakk, def worth running berfore your main raids.

[fading bane]

the dmg of enchant scales with the ilvl of ur helm

[dark ice]

Are you getting tour ebmelishments asap ?

[clever path]

489 gaming

never gonna catalyst it

[frail trout]

Wait really, fuck

[clever path]

vers mast

[frail trout]

My helm is 476 we lost

Maybe vault today

[inland flame]

Had to take a myth tier hat outta box even though I have a hero AD hat w a socket sadge

[fading bane]

catalyst charge on reset

[frail trout]

Need a helm to actually use it on first

[silver mantle]

I thought doing 1 heroic Fyrakk caps you for the bad luck protection

[frail trout]

Your talking to a two-time socket taker

[clever path]

6k for me

[past pivot]

It does. Any drops should just be visuals

[frail trout]

In less than a month of vaults

[inland flame]

Ya 2 sockets a month in is rough

[frail trout]

Today could be the 3rd

When I get home

[clever path]

how do we use the enchant

[inland flame]

Ya always terrified to open the box

Get off work in 3hrs

[clever path]

you need someone with a profession to do it or

[subtle rock]

just use it on helm like any other enchant, doesnt go away on use for when u get another helm

after quest itll be an item in your bag

[clever path]

finally

[naive swallow]

is this not the extremely rare version of it https://gyazo.com/05d0f4c35be7de9ce9ff80e7dcbacc85

first time i saw it it was glowing red , this is more dim than glowly

[blissful mountain]

upgrade before raid -- so i don't need to spam 500+ dungeons i get declined too anyway

[subtle rock]

@naive swallow thats the version for killing heroic fyrakk

[naive swallow]

so mythic version is glowing red

[subtle rock]

guaranteed drop

no mythic is the fire owl

[naive swallow]

that guy musta bought it huh

oh

[covert blaze]

no leggo again, next week for sure

[clever path]

real

[subtle rock]

@covert blaze 100%

[spiral ridge]

dw ill get it for you this week

[wispy thistle]

with the buff to spiked counterwieght do we know if its worth?

[subtle rock]

its not

still hot garbo

[wispy thistle]

thats what i figured

[clever path]

not hot garbo but far from good

iirc its coiled serpent lvl now

[subtle rock]

room temperature garbo?

[clever path]

basically

[slim coral]

just got the helm enchant

does it work across all content?

[glad tangle]

Yes

[rotund steppe]

i mean

what other head enchant u have

[clever path]

thats not the question

he asked if it worked in all content

[rotund steppe]

oh

[shell jackal]

for m+ simming it's patchwerk 5 bosses, correct?

[unreal onyx]

first real day of smoldy prog

can't wait

[shell jackal]

p sure i read that in here at some point

[compact knot]

Dslice

Just do dslice

[shell jackal]

i assumed that but i was sure multiple people in here, more prominent figures, said to do patchwerk 5 bosses

🤷‍♂️

[unreal onyx]

dslice heavily favors haste iirc

[shell jackal]

i'll take whatever works tho x

ahh okay that might be why

[unreal onyx]

just sim 1T 5min and adjust trinkets by best for m+

[compact knot]

Crit and haste go up in multitarget

[slim coral]

it's fun

[past pivot]

You can do that. Turn off buffs you don't see in keys. You can do dslice to a desgree. You can do top gear and extrapolate burst. M+ is a guess in many ways so a lot is figuring out what gives the biggest burst. Warrior dps profile is very similar for ST and MT soit's basically talents and trinkets for the most part

[unreal onyx]

debatable

[glad storm]

How much value does the helm enchant give?

[shell jackal]

would you still recommend rezans/signet brand for high keys? 24s and above? or should i use sandglass

for the haste proc

[past pivot]

Rezan is an ST trinket.

[clever path]

exactly 3% for me on st

[past pivot]

And so is Signet for trhe most part

[shell jackal]

it's tyrann week so ye

i figured those would work

[compact knot]

Signet is hot ass in some dungeons too

[past pivot]

Fort week

[hardy shuttle]

i run signet+aug in tyranical. but go might of the ocean on fort keys

[clever path]

signet depends if u can keep it up

[compact knot]

Depends on tank

[shell jackal]

fort week is tomorrow, you time-travelling son of a bitch

[compact knot]

Signet is bad in both dawn parts

[unreal onyx]

if you can't keep up signet buff you wanna throw that in the gutter for m+

[compact knot]

Too many portals

[unreal onyx]

I'd say just use might + augury

[past pivot]

I'd still run Might and something else in keys on any week. Augury if you have it

Crab or Signet if you don't

[unreal onyx]

if you don't have it, maybe crab

[shell jackal]

if i had augury i'd never switch it out. i kinda need to farm out might

ye ill farm out might, cheers fellas

[unreal onyx]

might fuck good

I almost vendored mine bc I didn't think it was that good

[past pivot]

Signet is great on Spiteful weeks and Everbloom minus last boss

[clever path]

i mean

its good by design

might

1:30

big strength

gives us crit so we can have more mastery vers gear

especially since we are a 1:30 spec now

[past pivot]

I like Crab and Might. Passive and On-use.

[proud crown]

and crab avoidance

[clever path]

400 avoidance is pretty big

its more like 500 at 489 i think

[urban tapir]

butcher block and might

[clever path]

its 407 i think on 441

[shell jackal]

i have block

[clever path]

but yeah for example my stats rn

witohut might

my crit gets fucked

[shell jackal]

ive been watching critcake's m+ videos and he runs rezans/signet, but they're, like, 27s & 28s. i feel like you need the ST damage at that key level, esp. on tyr

so ye i gotta farm out might

[clever path]

does he even have augury

[past pivot]

Are you doing 27s and 28s?

[unreal onyx]

im 27% crit, 26% haste, 57% mast and 23% vers unbuffed

[flat river]

Meanwhile me playing classic season of discovery and playing with heroic strike 🥹

[stable cove]

myth track gorehowl in my vault boys its a good day

[shell jackal]

not even slightly, hence my comment after my long sentence

i'll farm out might. 😅

[clever path]

ye with buffs im like 56-57% mast 30% vers cause vers flask simming fuck good

[clever path]

i dont think he has augury yet

[unreal onyx]

then don't overtink it as hard

would be my advice

[devout pawn]

yo fastest way to farm flightstones?}

[clever path]

generally you want on use + passive

2 on use is bad 2 passive is bad imo

[plucky ice]

signet does pretty decent dmg in m+ if you keep in combat

[clever path]

it does insane damage

if u keep it up

[plucky ice]

yea

[clever path]

which is the hard part

its like anvil

and ows

[past pivot]

FYI: Theorycrafters have discovered that Incandescent Essence scales with Item Level. Upgrade your helm to higher item level and your Helm Enchant effect will do more damage!
Something to think about for Vault

[plucky ice]

just dont die or wipe and it should stay up XD

[clever path]

489

[clever path]

ye and then the dungeon design forces u to drop it

[plucky ice]

[ember apex]

what criteria should in-guild DPS power rankings be based off of?
raw dps
parse %
ilvl parse %
overall damage
dmg to bosses
overall performance (shimmering super far to make a distant soak, making giga-plays etc...)

what do u guys do

[vague sand]

friendliness

[unreal onyx]

killing boss or not

[wild mural]

me > some other numbnuts

[ember apex]

yeah ok but u have ~14 dps and boss is dead now they all have same ranking w/ that criteria

[clever path]

i mean no one cares if you parse well if you are dead every other pull

[ember apex]

how do u do DPS power rankings properly w/in guild

[unreal onyx]

boss dead = good

[vague sand]

logs

[clever path]

^

[unreal onyx]

wdym dps power rankings

[ember apex]

ok so ur saying like surviability and stuff like that

so bad damage doesnt really factor in

[unreal onyx]

look up wcl weekly 95th percentile dmg

[ember apex]

if a dps is surviving

[unreal onyx]

and sort by that

[clever path]

you dont need to orange/pink parse

[vague sand]

Im guessing u want to allocate items properly to the right ppl first?

[ember apex]

this is for in guild DPS power rankings

no

i just need to make a DPS power rankings list

but im confused as the criteria that most ppl use

[unreal onyx]

wdym

[wild mural]

mechanics > parses > what utility they bring

[ember apex]

like we have 14dps approximately

[wild mural]

change my mind

[vague sand]

put your friends first and the people u dont like last and watch the guild burn

[unreal onyx]

do you want DPS or Player rankings?

bc wcl is literally the dps ranking

[ember apex]

ok so if u do mechanics but have low damage u can top DPS power rankings?

[wild mural]

Yes

[ember apex]

i just want to rank DPS players

[clever path]

depends on the mechanic

[unreal onyx]

that's not DPS power ranking then

that's player ranking

[clever path]

if the mechanic prevents the dps from dpsing then yes

[unreal onyx]

imo

[ember apex]

so what criteria do u guys yse

[vague sand]

you cant rank them on everything on a single rank

[past pivot]

Transmog > all

[unreal onyx]

you can't compare all classes with the same criteria

[vague sand]

dps are suppose to bring dps, despite mechanics

[wild mural]

so you'd rather than some suckerwho ignores every mechanics and gets 99 parses, or some guy who does mechanics and gets like 60s-70s

[unreal onyx]

I don't think you can compare augvoker with rogue 1:1 for example