Was the evoker one 1mil?
#fury
scarlet swift
fading bane
fuck killing that soul tho
silent burrow
I agree but shit
past pivot
If they're dooming, it's because they have unrealistic expectations tbh
silent burrow
200 more ilvl and it does same damage as gavel lol
dense elbow
The DoT at least does a bit more dam, so that is good
We take what we get
And we eat it with a smile
scarlet swift
What if we don’t get it
primal bane
Leggo has been about 7% overall in keys with the dot and on use
mossy fox
fuck killing that soul tho
rather kill soul than channel 3 second non hasted cast
dense elbow
When I get Lego, it will be next expansion already, so effect is grey
fading bane
just dont use the onuse 🤓
plucky ice
seriously who's idea was 3s use
gentle terrace
I want the lego so I can just wear it tmogged in valdrakken on my shaman.
silent burrow
Yeah that's another thing is that by the time most of us are able to get gavel, raiding is already over lol
primal bane
The sims say to use it 😒
dense elbow
Let's be honest, if the 3 sec channel was crazy dam, we would hf with it
Problem is it is just... ok... dam
silent burrow
Yeah that's true
left perch
didn’t it get buffed this week too
dense elbow
DoT did, ye
forest ginkgo
I mean if they are smort they'll fix the cast to be hasted as well
plucky ice
should be castable while moving and like 1.5s
primal bane
I’d take the 3 sec root if the dmg wasn’t split and capped at 50%
scarlet swift
What if cast generated rage for warriors so we could pre-cast in raid?
past pivot
Shiould have been evoker deep breath that stunned mobs. Extra utility, a dot and damage and mobility
forest ginkgo
Or imagine if they lessened the damage a bit and spawned some image of fyrakk that does the rage of fyr'alath for you leaving you free to do ur rotation
primal bane
The cast doesn’t generate rage
scarlet swift
If it did though, so you can do openers
primal bane
So you drop you enrage when using it
scarlet swift
Reck/cast/rampage->opener
plucky ice
maybe they will change it when enough actually get it and cry on forums how bad the use is
primal bane
Wasting 3 sec of reck no thanks
scarlet swift
Swap it then
dense elbow
You use it before or after CDs
forest ginkgo
yeah nah i would imagine the on use is during the time we have no reck or avatar up
primal bane
I do the on use after all my cds are done with
forest ginkgo
So that we dont waste those precious seconds
primal bane
Which is usually after my 2nd OF
fading bane
your cds are done when avatar runs out
dense elbow
Just do weapon, then opener. Or opener and then weap
fading bane
do you even AA with legendary on use
forest ginkgo
U do more dmg with more stacks i believe
dense elbow
Legendary is a weird filler
primal bane
Yea and if the tank moves bye bye dmg
forest ginkgo
Well thats an F
plucky ice
need a macro for tank, don't move I'm casting axe LOL
forest ginkgo
TRUE
plucky ice
dense elbow
"plz don't move, I beg, plz" as you die to ground aoe
past pivot
need a macro for tank, don't move I'm casting axe LOL
No tank would ever follow that
primal bane
Not to mention all the bullshit that you can be caught standing in within that 3 sec window
forest ginkgo
Imagine all the griefing that will happen
plucky ice
yeah, it's just badly designed
silent burrow
No tank would ever follow that
idk, just like boon innit
primal bane
One thing I found out it ignores push backs
forest ginkgo
Tbh tho, i have faith still that fyr'alath will perform better than we think atm
And that we will blast
primal bane
I would use it on the winds from mythic council and it wouldn’t push me
forest ginkgo
If not well then i'll just unbind the on use and have it as a nice weapon damage ilvl increase
and dot*
dense elbow
And that we will blast
It will blast, effect wise, and it is a very good statstick
forest ginkgo
Yeah i mean we'll see tbh
tacit crag
Tbh tho, i have faith still that fyr'alath will perform better than we think atm
I mean it's a 7 ilvl upgrade in addition to the on use and marks being like 7% DPS in crease. We're talking like a 10% damage increase legendary.
past pivot
Yeah i mean we'll see tbh
Wellm we are seeing. People like toosick have it
primal bane
Yea I’ll have to do a key without the on use and compare the dmg but something tells me it’s going to be less dmg overall
dense elbow
It is +5% on gorehowl, no?
forest ginkgo
Well lets see what it looks like with fyr'alath once everybody has it
tacit crag
Gorehowl Sims worse than my current offhand because stats.
past pivot
lol not everyone will have it
primal bane
Yes I think they buff it a little more once more people have it to complain lol
dense elbow
Depends on how the pity system works
tacit crag
Idk why they would buff it honestly.
plucky ice
doesn't need a buff but change to on use
tacit crag
It gives 7% DPS just from effects alone. How is that not good enough.
dense elbow
To make the on use feel good to preas
primal bane
I mean the ilv and 7% is really good honestly
forest ginkgo
Yeah for sure
that alone makes it a good wep to get
but u know, its a legendary. Gotta be legendarily good
and do legendary damage
Imo atleast
dense elbow
We are not complaining about dam, we are worried about feel/complications
past pivot
The problem is if they make it TOO GOOD for DPS, it skews too hard for BDK tanks. They need to separate DPS and tanks somehow
forest ginkgo
It seems to do the leggo damage, just not feeel leggo good
primal bane
Yea I can compete with DHs now
forest ginkgo
I mean waht was the evoker legendary in % increase if anybody knows?
tacit crag
I mean waht was the evoker legendary in % increase if anybody knows?
Less pretty sure
past pivot
The evoker leggo was +30 ilvl last patch
dense elbow
BDK competitive on DPS, can't have that. Especially as they can't Deathstrike during the on use
forest ginkgo
Yeah so damage wise, its pretty good then % wise
dire badge
do you even AA with legendary on use
bet u don’t 💀
fading bane
classic
forest ginkgo
But gameplay feels meh, its cool, but its a wholeass 3 second downtime from our rotation
primal bane
bet u don’t 💀
You def don’t
dire badge
gavel >
lyric thistle
Is it better to loot spec arms for the Lego or doesn’t matter?
past pivot
Doens't matter
forest ginkgo
Is it even cancellable? or are u just stuck in the animation
tacit crag
Is it better to loot spec arms for the Lego or doesn’t matter?
Loot spec arms always
primal bane
Is it even cancellable? or are u just stuck in the animation
Can’t cancel
past pivot
But arms specs avoids 1handers so there
dense elbow
But gameplay feels meh, its cool, but its a wholeass 3 second downtime from our ...
Ppl disliked bladestorm, they gonna hate the legendary
forest ginkgo
Loot spec doesnt matter btw for leggo i think, our paladin healer got the leggo in our heroic run yesterday
hes specced holy and loots holy
tacit crag
But arms specs avoids 1handers so there
True can't count smf out yet
past pivot
True can't count smf out yet
lol yes you can
primal bane
SMF will never be good and should be removed or baseline
dense elbow
I need to get the new OP 1h, see if I can do competitive dam with sword and board arms again
forest ginkgo
I hope they dont force a build that needs SMF
dire badge
every class should use 2 handers and they delete all 1 handed items
forest ginkgo
With some whacky tier set or whatnot next expansion
dire badge
that’s the real solution
past pivot
I hope they dont force a build that needs SMF
They never will
dense elbow
You say that to the company where never means 'not just yet'.
tacit crag
lol yes you can
Was being sarcastic.
forest ginkgo
I think there is always a chance
lavish grove
Smf isnt a build tho
past pivot
Not SMF over TG
lavish grove
You just replace 2h with 1h
past pivot
It's a meme
lavish grove
dire badge
it’s a mentul ilnes
plucky ice
smf enjoyers should just stick to classic lmao
forest ginkgo
Smf is a talent and therefore it is part of a build that would be a smf build, which i hope to avoid
plucky ice
forest ginkgo
GOing down that part of the talent tree, NOT OKAY
I like my titans grip, 2 big weps
dense elbow
A tierset buffing the SMF talents would be hilarious
fast mural
GOing down that part of the talent tree, NOT OKAY
we kinda do tho
lavish grove
Smf is a talent and therefore it is part of a build that would be a smf build, w...
Don't even have to pick that talent to play 1h 
fast mural
A tierset buffing the SMF talents would be hilarious
good thing we have arms
forest ginkgo
Well its the only talent that would make 1h work slightly KEKW
primal bane
Yea a tier set that give SMF to 2handers
lavish grove
Yea a tier set that give SMF to 2handers
Good
dense elbow
(2) Twohanders now look like 1h for mog purposes
forest ginkgo
and starts barfing out a bunch of azerite powers on the enemies in a big aoe
dense elbow
(2) Twohanders now look like 1h for mog purposes
SMF tierset
primal bane
So next season is the fated BS season does that mean we have to refarm leggo?
past pivot
More like SMF tears set. 100% you'll cry because it's always inferior to the 2hander tier set
primal bane
Or do you think it will be in the dinar system
forest ginkgo
I mean we use 2 hands to play warrior, i wanna use 2 hands to carry big weapons.
primal bane
There wasn’t a leggo in SL
warm crag
you had to refarm the hunter bow (technically a token) to get it at new ilvl so probably have to refarm it ye
plucky ice
hunters had lego
warm crag
ye there was what are you on about
past pivot
Or do you think it will be in the dinar system
Either it'll stay as is and still be competitive, or a quest to upgrade it.
primal bane
Having to refarm and do the quest again would be super troll especially if you already have it
I’m hoping they do something to upgrade ilv if you already have it
Either that or make it so you can use a dinar to buy it if you already have it
runic pine
edge of night was lit, was more legendary than axe
Gavel was more legendary than the axe
The axe is pretty piss poor in terms of actual DPS gain
past pivot
Maybe they make it so it's an extra quest added depending when you get the leggo. The earlier you get it, the more quests you need to upgrade it
primal bane
How much dps gain was gavel?
runic pine
Gavel was massive
primal bane
Over 10%?
left perch
Like 8% ya?
pearl lagoon
Gavel was so good bears used it
plucky ice
like 15% for me if I remember
left perch
More in aoe with the right proc
primal bane
Yea but the avg
past pivot
From all I hear, Axe seems closer to Jaithys as far as power goes, maybe even weaker. And far less powerful than Gavel.
left perch
yea they for got to put “wait for it” in between
unreal onyx
and they are not even rare
dense elbow
Don't want ppl without Lego to feel left out
plucky ice
rebranded epic to lege, make it super rare too
left perch
Equip: Apply a corrupted seed to enemies struck by your auto attacks, up to 5.
Use: Charge toward your enemies swinging wildly to bathe them in flame. Any enemies hit by any damage by you at all, who are carrying corrupted seeds, will die instantly.
Fixed leggo
runic pine
Yea but the avg
Idk what the average was, what I do know is there are fury logs on Anduin with it being like 20%+ of their damage
left perch
lore ✅ ridiculous ✅
silent burrow
gavel was like 10k+ in ST, 200 ilvl lower lol
runic pine
Gavel was stupid strong
glad plover
I mean no matter how you put it one handers will never compete with 2 handers just do tu primary stat difference. Even less if you have to spend 2 talent points to have some kind of benfit from using one handers. SMF should be base and Frenzied flurry should affect both Two handers and One handers, think how cool that talent would be right now if it worked with two handers.
glad plover
Well given that Blizzard plans to "expand" on current design, I do not think basic philosophy of stat tuning and distribution will change much.
runic pine
Honestly they should just scrap SMF entirely
Just give fury the ability to transmog 1hs
glad plover
Just make it base, who cares, if you want to use it use but do not put it in talent system. This 2 talents just feel like a waste
runic pine
Scrap it
gilded pawn
as archi said
glad plover
Or that too
runic pine
There’s literally no reason for it to exist
gilded pawn
maybe it's there for RP reasons
the thing is, SMF actually doesnt need to be there for RP reasons
runic pine
It exists because people want to RP 1h weapons
gilded pawn
you can equip 2 1hs baseline
runic pine
Which could be fixed with transmog
gilded pawn
without a talent
so if you wanna cope
you can just cope without the 5% damage increase
if they are rp they dont care about 5% damage
acoustic furnace
Y'all mfs who send 18 small messages instead of one big message are the reason I mute discord servers
glad plover
Nah I actually think if you approach it right SMF and that idea on Fury warrior can work well main issue is that in many cases cool items that come as onehanders and are STR based often are made for tanks. On the other hand items that are cool onehanders with DPS in mind almost always are AGI based
clever path
Gavel was more legendary than the axe
gavel was insane tbh
plucky ice
boomers playing 1h fury with rose tinted glasses, remembering how they were topdps in 2005
wild walrus
Any info on the 3rd crafted items after Wrist (poly) and cloak (shadowflamed) ?
silent burrow
As long as you could find your soul quick enough lol
clever path
ring
past pivot
SMF should be a glyph like weaponmaster or moved to silly servers like season of discovery.
wild walrus
Mastery/poly ?
stuck bison
Is that make sense i craft ring only 476 so i use my remaining aspects to upgrade tier pieces ?
clever path
what is poly
wild walrus
versa *
clever path
well for me vers mast was massive
left perch
Y'all mfs who send 18 small messages instead of one big message are the reason I...
who tf leaves discord notifications on for anything besides direct mentions and then complains about it
plucky ice
clever path
legiterally
runic pine
Actually imagine having notifications for every single message
clever path
i cba doin all that so i just sit on dnd
past pivot
I just had my ring with a flavor pocket from last season upgraded and stats changed on it. Saved a ton of gold.
clever path
I just had my ring with a flavor pocket from last season upgraded and stats chan...
same
wdym ton of gold
signet is like
2k in mats
runic pine
I just had my ring with a flavor pocket from last season upgraded and stats chan...
I just get gold back from gambling in raid
clever path
runic pine
signet is like
Yeah but flavor pocket is like 30k
clever path
legit 2k gold
clever path
Yeah but flavor pocket is like 30k
i had flavor pocket on legs
runic pine
Was 70k earlier this season
past pivot
Like 50-72k on my server
runic pine
I spent 70k on my flavor pocket
glad plover
What is average price of mats needed for legendary now ?
runic pine
past pivot
What is average price of mats needed for legendary now ?
Depends on your server but probably a token at least
glad plover
Most expensive 10k dps increase in history it seems 😄
clever path
Depends on your server but probably a token at least
only a token?
wasnt it like 1mil
i mean its not only but i thought it was more
mighty hull
so is the prio on execute a filler before execute phase (SD procs) and on cd during execute phase with Ashen Juggernaut?
past pivot
It dropped a lot. But not sure how much
final birch
Its 400k
naive swallow
is pip essentially useless if nobody else wears it in M+?
runic pine
so is the prio on execute a filler before execute phase (SD procs) and on cd dur...
I thought it was basically BB>Ramp>Execute>BT in execute phase with Ashen
But I could be wrong
Probably am
final birch
300k including post quest
The only expensive part is the one with crystal and awakened stuff
clever path
is pip essentially useless if nobody else wears it in M+?
idk from my experience it still rpcos cause im sure im the only one in keys with it
tidal heron
300k still overpriced for a minor dps upgrade, but, we all know anyone that gets it will actually make it, cause, legendary
marble schooner
300k still overpriced for a minor dps upgrade, but, we all know anyone that gets...
isnt it a big dps increase now that it hastes and crits?
crystal summit
minor
marble schooner
(havent checked any numbers)
oh, it was a 3-6% increase in ST before, thought it would be like a 6-10% increase after buffs
crystal summit
not at all
it's a bit better in aoe with the hotfix, but still doesn't make it obscene
marble schooner
they still need to buff not being able to move during cast
crystal summit
draught 2.0
glad plover
they still need to buff not being able to move during cast
True it is a weird choice,
spare otter
leggo was 320k for me for mats
but it went up to 400k
for awakened mats needed for 2nd part of quest
final birch
Awakened part is the only expensive thing
crystals alone cost more than 2 other parts combined
glad plover
What I would love more is for on use to leave copy of you that does the animation and damage in front of it, just like Fyrak copies itself in the mythic fight. That would be very cool both as spectacle and actually be useful.
spare otter
yea i dont like it either
nova lintel
is it worth doing normal fyrakk first to get the BLP then heroic clear each week?
wraith wharf
Polly not
primal bane
I did that this week and got it
I did normal got a greater then did heroic and got axe
sage ridge
On Smolderon do you guys hold cds or just pop them all right away to have them back at a decent time?
primal bane
Right away
So it will line up with dmg phase
You will need to push your orbs back also
tidal heron
Do you mean, not pop your orbs instantly? (I only do hc, if mythic has something else going on with orbs, I guess the questions irrelevant)
primal bane
Right don’t pick up orbs insta
When you get pushed back try to get to the edge
Then let the orbs roll into you
That way your cds are up for the whole 20 sec
tidal heron
I guess you can pop all but one orb and extend last one so it alligns with cd's (unless the timer on the orbs doesn't reset on every "orb")
primal bane
They don’t extend
tidal heron
k
tidal heron
good tip then, for whenever I would ever do mythic, where it matters 🤣
primal bane
I find it better to lust on pull
tidal heron
I pug everything too, and you already have to be lucky if people even know about the orbs haha
sage ridge
It's usually just less damage in my groups tho
clever belfry
Y'all mfs who send 18 small messages instead of one big message are the reason I...
ok
but
who
asked
wild mica
who the hell doesnt mute every discord anyway
primal bane
I mean if anyone is dead going into that phase if anyone fucks up their orbs then it could be less dmg tbh
primal bane
Yea I pugged it first week plenty would die before first orbs
Now prob not our ilv to high
runic pine
who the hell doesnt mute every discord anyway
Imagine not utilizing this fr
golden hare
just block almost everyone
runic pine
Omg Erga is alive
sage ridge
I just instantly mute every discord server I join
runic pine
golden hare
:woo:
wild mica
I just instantly mute every discord server I join
you and every other sane person
drowsy sage
Do we macro everything together in m+? trinket+avat+reck?
drowsy sage
I dont either but watching biz now and its seems he has a button that uses them all even thunderous roar or maybe im seeing it wrong
wild mica
i macro reck and OF if i run titanic rage instead of dancing blades, otherwise no macro.
primal bane
dont copy me but i macro reck+ avatar +thunderous raor/spear into one macro lol
sage ridge
I don't ever use Titanic Rage
runic pine
I macro hamstring into every ability
sage ridge
I just run single target all the time since the gain from titanic rage is meh
runic pine
primal bane
dance blade is king
runic pine
I don't ever use Titanic Rage
Titanic rage is great in keys
primal bane
yea but boss dmg suffers
sage ridge
I still prefer the single target
runic pine
Dancing blades not so much
runic pine
yea but boss dmg suffers
Bro I’m still blasting on bosses
wild mica
Dancing blades not so much
dancing blades is better even in keys
primal bane
and you could be blasting more with DB
wild mica
especially on tyra
sage ridge
I can just get enraged before I use abilities
It takes like 2-3 seconds longer
Thats it
wild mica
titanic rage is so comfy but dancing blades is just better
runic pine
dancing blades is better even in keys
Is it though? Most of your damage is going to be cleaved BB in keys not your autos
primal bane
lol okay do you boo boo
runic pine
I will 🙂
narrow narwhal
I like slapping faster
sage ridge
You're the guy who doesn't change talents for tyran lol
wild mica
you are undervaluing single target damage in keys
narrow narwhal
I wish there was a 2 handed fish mog
sullen basin
Is there a way to check which stance you used on wclogs
sullen basin
Is there a way to check which stance you used on wclogs
I may have been stupid
modest condor
stances dont show up unless you changed during the fight
sullen basin
My defensive stance was suspiciously active today when I logged in, and I don't remember toggling it
Maybe that's why I was mysteriously losing to the Arms players
tidal heron
get a WA that screams at you for having it active
runic pine
Brother arms isn’t like insanely worse than fury
wild mica
i just made a weakaura that tells me im in d stance so that cant happen
sullen basin
I've never had this happen so never had to think about it but yeah, gonna need to get one
runic pine
Arms and fury are relatively close in damage
sullen basin
Brother arms isn’t like insanely worse than fury
yeah but fury owns
runic pine
Warrior owns
modest condor
you own
runic pine
Play all specs like a true king
sullen basin
Play all specs like a true king
Why would I play arms when I haven't touched it since early shadowlands (when I started) and only played fury the whole time
It'd be like rerolling (bad idea)
runic pine
Why would I play arms when I haven't touched it since early shadowlands (when I ...
Cuz arms owns (some fights) and it’s not hard to play
sullen basin
Does mythic have more ads than heroic
past pivot
No but the ads last 45 seconds longer on average
lavish pond
guys, whats a good amount of dps for 20+ mythic dungeons?
past pivot
guys, whats a good amount of dps for 20+ mythic dungeons?
100%
fading sky
What fights are arms good on??
fading sky
Non meme fight
On mythic i presume ofc
Ive only done up to a fer laro and nim puløs
fading bane
ye ofc
fading sky
Ye was arms on council with fob felt gucci
fading bane
but its a fight where dmg dont matter really
oak swallow
fuck yeah
sullen basin
Gz
fading sky
But any other? Like ive always played arms but atm i feel fury kit is just way better to what fury does
At 476 my 3rd vault... socket
With 6 slots🤣
But tbh raid slots were 1 myth 2 hc all i need hc is aug and all 3 mythic + were 2 pair of legs(got legs last week) and bracers😅
barren dagger
what are you guys crafting with your third spark?
inb4 just sim and craft what's best
past pivot
You mean what did we craft? QoL and a flavor packet return my friend
past pivot
Mastery vers works
barren dagger
i had a belt sim higher as crit mastery than mastery vers that's why i'm not sure
past pivot
Just use last seasons and recraft
runic pine
and Larodor, but now u lust pull
Isn’t it better on lava worm?
barren dagger
i never had a flavor pocket.... am noob
frosty scroll
hearty panther
guys
i am in need of massive guidance
i just watched an hour worth of macro's and generel warrior knowledge
and realized i still dont understand shit
wise knoll
Is rise a 200-230k dung for Fury? Or am I just a shitter
those are great numbers mate, dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
wait till you get 4set and 460ilvl and it will be even more
dense elbow
you hurt me in the best way
eternal sundial
hasty path
havent touched rise on tyran this week<:keks:936231610850897992>
I still havent even done a tyrannical rise
plucky junco
Have 3 sparks, hesitating on crafting 2 items with embelishment and one extra or a weapon + one embelishment
Current weapons is a champion one and a 441
eternal sundial
I still havent even done a tyrannical rise
i did week 2 but havent touched since
but offhand gorehowl grind will send me there
glad storm
Is rise a 200-230k dung for Fury? Or am I just a shitter
Sounds good for rise, what level?
dense elbow
18-20
tidal heron
is it me, or are there no vers/mast rings this season? I must've overlooked something?
oblique trail
there aren't
past pivot
meh, guess it's haste/mast or crit/mast then
Just use droptimizer
tidal heron
Yeah, doing that, but gotta go dungeon by dungeon cause "free" version
past pivot
Pay the $5 lol
sullen tendon
warm rain
has anybody tried Ashes of the Embersoul and Prophetic Stonescales on smoldy and die on purpose?
would you get both effects?
pop ashes and get a stacking effect
covert blaze
🧑🍳
urban tapir
-Endurance Training
-Shockwave
+Seismic reverb
+Uproar
Feels really good in m+ if u have the stamina for it, and I guess u might need the stuns..but meh
urban tapir
it doesnt at all lol
young swan
it literally does
urban tapir
its a 1min cd and i can send it with odyns fury almost every time
young swan
wee vanilla roar
coarse nest
If you pretend that math doesn’t exist the cds line up perfectly with uproar talented
covert blaze
If you pretend that math doesn’t exist the cds line up perfectly with uproar tal...
lmao
clever path
young swan
hits for like
wee vanilla roar
clever path
vanilla roar!!!
spare otter
Idk if we even need shockwave tho
young swan
dont need stormbolt either
spare otter
Feel like adds are just exploding when it's not fortified
covert blaze
utility bad
young swan
spare otter
It is when you never need it
paper ivy
hey
a question regarding the legendry
if u full clear HC and kill fyrakk and dont drop it
paper ivy
do u have any chance of looting it on normal?
young swan
no
young swan
norm -> heroic is possible
humble bramble
hello, for fear of pissing ppl off. Is there any kind of sim data thats shows how big a loss it is to go single minded fury ?
warm rain
is how i'm doing it
paper ivy
ok thanks
warm rain
fyrakk drops a greater on normal
past pivot
hello, for fear of pissing ppl off. Is there any kind of sim data thats shows ho...
Yes. It's a big loss. 5-10% at equal ilvl last I heard. You can check yourself
warm rain
pretty sure the numbers end up evening out
humble bramble
thank you
past pivot
Evening or morning
young swan
the only reason to do normal before heroic is for 2 chances instead of 1
spare otter
True
young swan
roll 2 d20's or 1 d10 type deal
warm rain
that's why i'm doing it that way
past pivot
LFR then into> Normal then into> Heroic then into> Mythic ... or Mythic . Same chances.
urban tapir
when i get might i'll remove uproar 
young swan
its just not a good talent without AM
urban tapir
i mean pack to pack in random pugs it just feels good
spare otter
You think you know it feels good but it doesn't
urban tapir
i mean it does i've run a bunch with it lol
covert blaze
if it's fun™ for you to run a suboptimal talent, no one's stopping you
lofty forge
is there a specific order you use your cds for some reason?
analog marlin
Hello ppl
Does no one still have the legendary axe? I still don't know the first one. Anyone here?
young swan
a lot of people have gotten it
lofty forge
Does no one still have the legendary axe? I still don't know the first one. Anyo...
many have it
past pivot
Lots have asked. Lots have have it.
analog marlin
young swan
is there a specific order you use your cds for some reason?
reck before OF, OF before spear and avatar
lofty forge
reck before OF, OF before spear and avatar
Ty alot sir
young swan
dont think I need to explain why u reck first, OF before avatar because you want to give the OF dot time to tick out before proccing another one
and OF before spear because its not a GCD u want to use inside spear and also u want spear buffed by avatar
lofty forge
dont think I need to explain why u reck first, OF before avatar because you want...
yepp thats what i thought
young swan
the opener should be something like reck-charge-ramp-OF-spear-BB-ramp-ava-bb-ramp
young swan
theres a number of reasons for it
clever path
is it possible to macro ava and spear
like in 9.2
so ava buffs spear and spear buffs odyns
analog marlin
the opener should be something like reck-charge-ramp-OF-spear-BB-ramp-ava-bb-ram...
Why? Spear>BB>Ava>BB?
clever path
in order to press bloodbath you need to press rampage
bb is enhanced bt from reckless abandon
and you want to use ur 2p on bbs
analog marlin
And using spear and avatar at the same time, is there any drawback?
covert blaze
Why? Spear>BB>Ava>BB?
OF gives you avatar
for 4 seconds
if you use natty avatar some seconds after OF, you get more uptime on the dot and dancing blades
analog marlin
Yes, I explained myself wrong, I wanted to say, why use spear and then a couple of skills and then use avatar?
covert blaze
what buff
young swan
Why? Spear>BB>Ava>BB?
u want your BB's to be buffed by spear and you want to maximize dancing blades uptime while not letting the avatar buff drop
analog marlin
For dancing lblades, from what you tell me, I assume it doesn't stack
young swan
it does not
covert blaze
no need to track it tbh
I personally track the OF dot
I can look at that or the 4 seconds on my avatar WA
analog marlin
Then it would be to use avatar as I finish the 4 seconds of OF avatar
narrow narwhal
Open deez
worldly shard
Damn went from 446ilvl 136k dps ST sim to 180k dps at 468ilvl
ember apex
open deez?
worldly shard
Thats quite a big jump when it comes to tier dps
pliant berry
ember apex
what's open deez mean
worldly shard
Time for +20s i guess
ember apex
GL on getting invites
im 2.9k 481 and its inconsistent as a MF to get into keys
or should i say keez
worldly shard
I played 3days in total on both affixes ran my own keys 17-19s hit 2.4k and pissed off
Got 4pc 1hr ago and went from 455 to 468ilvl
ember apex
pog
past pivot
That's more than most people
ember apex
yeah i got my portals but im just gonna keep pushing io to maybe 3k or 3.1k just to make getting invites easier
i hate applying to keys and getting denied non-stop for 10mins
i like to spam out my 20s super fast to minmax vault slots and thats it basically im on cruise mod outside of raid
ill prob slam IO on an alt once they uncap crests
acoustic furnace
Honestly I'd say to find a healer to queue with. I know that's easier said than done but once my bro swapped to resto sham it became ultra easy to get into anything. 2600 io.
ember apex
yeah that woiuld make my life easier
most ppl in my guild already hard cruisin' tbh
half of the mythic raid team is playing the new poe season that just launched
only reason im not is i didnt think league start would be at 11AM PST and not 1PM PST like normal
narrow narwhal
what's open deez mean
Open deez nuts
ember apex
Open deez nuts
narrow narwhal
Gottem
grim star
are yall seeing any major differences between Dancing Blades and Titanic Rage?
grim star
okay cool thats what ive been seeing in my numbers but couldnt understand why youd want titanic rage
ember apex
blizz should just merge dancing blades and titanic rage into the same thing
titanic blades
ember apex
yeah or that
worldly shard
Idk ill probably go from 2.4k to 2650ish in the next 2days
I was still cranking out 200-230k overalls but for 20s didnt seem like enough to "carry" keys
clever path
Baseline the enrage
ye
worldly shard
So now with the new 4pc and extra 40k ST dam i should pump
Didnt rlly run any 20s, just depleted into 17s 18s
Maybe ill get lucky and replace the mirror trink from HC raid
clever path
undead based
clever path
void elf customization is goated cant argue with that
i love the way they look plus the racial seems really good on some bosses
clever path
on raz u could skip rings iirc
spare otter
but its blizz
clever path
idk i play zoomed out so i dont see shit anyway
clever path
its impossible to see shit in keys unless u use delights or some shit
the aoe stun is nice tho
spare otter
i would just go human tbh
clever path
entropic embrace is nice too iirc
spare otter
but everyone is horde these days
clever path
i mean it doesnt matter anymore apart from leveling and hc dungeons
spare otter
nah just looks
im the type of guy to play a fantasy game with magic and shit
to just go human warrior
with a 2 handed wep
clever path
i will race change soon prob into void elf or something
- tauren animations are straight garbage
mortal strike is an overhead swing
looks so bad
have to play female tauren
which is even worse
hollow elk
im the type of guy to play a fantasy game with magic and shit
I do that. All my friends are casters summoning nukes and inter dimencional beings. I'm the guy that can hit 3 times in a row and roll one last time for a last hit.
Tried playing a bard and I hated every minute of it
sterile stratus
After playing fury every other spec just feels 
So slow
runic pine
Tried playing a bard and I hated every minute of it
Yo college of swords bard in BG3 owns
opal monolith
anyone ever felt like their key presses are sluggish to register? and im at 20 ms rn
never had this before
like the slightest, yet annoying delay
on everything im pressing
gilded pawn
Change spell queue window
opal monolith
cant find it in serarch where is it
unreal onyx
am I insane or did we only get 8 echoes of ephemera this week?
cosmic adder
got my 10
pulsar prawn
am I insane or did we only get 8 echoes of ephemera this week?
40 is max
sterile stratus
Check mail?
unreal onyx
nothing in mail
rotund steppe
thats weird
i also have 40
theres a guy that got the head enchant already cuz a bug
opal monolith
Change spell queue window
what should it be set to
hasty path
how we feelin
i'm sick in the head
turbid needle
real
gilded pawn
hasty path
this is the first I've heard of this im curious
it doesnt matter
turbid needle
p sure i got pneumonia
noway man
hasty path
spell queue window andies 
turbid needle
stop smoking
sterile stratus
Basically how a button press registers.
So if you press 1 while your gcd is active it'll "load" that press
The window is how long before your gcd is up the load happens I think.
In also don't mess with it but that's my dumbass explaining
opal monolith
ye idk never had any issues but im on 20 ms and everything i press feels slightly delayed
glad sable
@turbid needle hi bby
random raptor
Ah so I shouldnt even play with it if my rotations seem really good
sterile stratus
Prevents you from needing to spam press buttons to make sure things happen as soon as gcd finishes
errant vessel
Ah so I shouldnt even play with it if my rotations seem really good
No you should def have it still
As you won’t be able to queue spells if you set it to 0
unreal onyx
I made a ticket to blizz for my missing echo
unreal onyx
let's see if I get it
opal monolith
it just tells u what ur on it doesnt change anything
turbid needle
What did you do?
i got flagged for rename for funny name and i named it basically same thing so got banned
covert blaze
No you should def have it still
i think he means changing it
glad sable
one more day till im unbanned
from what
sterile stratus
Are you supposed to get all of them from one raid run?
errant vessel
Meaning your avg delay between spells is gonna be 1/(button presses per second) ms
dire badge
i got flagged for rename for funny name and i named it basically same thing so g...
cluelessting
unreal onyx
Are you supposed to get all of them from one raid run?
afaik yes, I also killed 3 myth bosses after
turbid needle
i been playing for so long saying the dumbest shit ever never been banned until now bro
runic pine
i got flagged for rename for funny name and i named it basically same thing so g...
But was it within terms of service?
sterile stratus
What was the funny name though lol
turbid needle
caught me offguard
turbid needle
But was it within terms of service?
idk if c u m was in tos ofc i meant the latin meaning of the word
sterile stratus
Lmfao
runic pine
Slightly annoying because pretty sure that doesn’t break ToS
sterile stratus
He's just too good a player, the server couldn't handle it
turbid needle
blizz dont like funny name man
turbid needle
He's just too good a player, the server couldn't handle it
TRUE
spark tree
should i wait a certain ilvl gear to use my catalysts? If i use it now max I can get is 463
slow haven
would frostfire legguards of prep be good for us?
ruby meteor
I’ve checked the FAQ and done some google searching but the best I’ve come up with for the question “is the Dungeon Slice sim worth using” is: it depends on your spec. So, does anyone know how Dungeon Slice sims are for Fury Warriors?
sterile stratus
should i wait a certain ilvl gear to use my catalysts? If i use it now max I can...
If you think you'll be getting higher ilvl stuff relatively soon I'd wait
unreal onyx
our 2nd raid's pally tank/heal just aquired the leggo and finished the questline
the man needs it the most
spare otter
leggo sucks anyway
unreal onyx
still better just bc of ilvl
unreal onyx
remove that illusion right nyow
quick arrow
good call didnt realize it was still on there ;p
unreal onyx
also, gratz
fallen ginkgo
vagrant spruce
should i wait a certain ilvl gear to use my catalysts? If i use it now max I can...
I like to save my charges for hero and myth track gear.
vagrant spruce
look at what i got today
Congrats. Normal? heroic? How many bad luck prevention items did you gather?
spark tree
I like to save my charges for hero and myth track gear.
I was thinking that. But can take a while heehe
but give that with my DK i kept getting gloves and pants from 17+ Galkaron instead of the axe this might be the way
vagrant spruce
I was thinking that. But can take a while heehe
17s are very doable in like 450-460 gear with a decent group.
elder vessel
whats the opener with spear on st
reck charge ava spear?
and then press everything else in spear?
spark tree
i can always be that guy that everyone complain about low dps but dont kick too =p
vagrant spruce
reck charge ava spear?
I like to reck mid charge myself but seems right. You want spear to do max damage with reck and Ava up.
vagrant spruce
i can always be that guy that everyone complain about low dps but dont kick too ...
Just run your own key up. XD
What I do.
And try to invite someone to pass me gear.
spark tree
I think this will be the biggest diff for me. On the tank dk i just get group after group. So good to be a tank ehe
clever path
wouldn't you want to use OF for the avatar on spear opener instead of plain avatar first?
vagrant spruce
I think this will be the biggest diff for me. On the tank dk i just get group af...
DPS ques take forever. Probably a third of my key time is spent attempting to get into a 20-21 last week.
vagrant spruce
wouldn't you want to use OF for the avatar on spear opener instead of plain avat...
Yes
Charge reck of spear 3 seconds later Ava.
quick arrow
Congrats. Normal? heroic? How many bad luck prevention items did you gather?
2nd heroic kill and 1 or 2 bad luck items
vagrant spruce
2nd heroic kill and 1 or 2 bad luck items
Nice. I have 2 greatest and 2 lessers. Hoping to get it soon.
quick arrow
gl!
clever path
Has anyone figured out the approximate drop rate for the lego as a start?
compact knot
impossible to figure it out prolly
quick arrow
the follow up quest are a bitch tho
compact knot
not like it matters really, drops or doesnt
clever path
i'd assume player to player it would be the same rate as the evoker lego, right? or maybe lower with BLP?
spare otter
it's a 50/50 chance
dark ice
Reloe not doing m+ WA pack ? 😦
Any replacement ?
silent burrow
0% drop chance in my experience
cedar monolith
sry guys for the milion time asked this. being away from a year. what spec is currently overall better. arms or fury?
clever path
sry guys for the milion time asked this. being away from a year. what spec is cu...
it honestly pretty damn close overall
random raptor
Is it worth recrafting gear missives, gems and weapon enchants for a +5826 dps increase in AOE but a -2200 DPS loss in ST?
Since we have like 6/9 raid bosses aoe anyway?
I can send sims
clever path
In massive aoe? Arms with Bladestorm, In this raid? with the amount of small cleave, fury performs really well, but i don't think either one completely outperforms the other
random raptor
I did patchwerk, 5 bosses 1:30 as suggested by one of the bros yesterday to sim aoe
cedar monolith
it honestly pretty damn close overall
in that case i choose the fun spec...fury 🙂
clever path
i will say, this iteration of fury really emphasizes the "arthritis spec"
unreal onyx
S2 felt worse imo
restive peak
It's less of an arthritic spec than last tier now bro; more of a rotation, lower haste
cedar monolith
so i guess for keys depends on week arms might be better for aoe
clever path
Maybe it's the fact that for me double wafting is simming better, meaning more sudden bursts
clever path
so i guess for keys depends on week arms might be better for aoe
In a massive a pack? def arms. but if it's single pack or maybe even double packs, fury is very close if not better
unreal onyx
also boss-dmg should be in favour of fury in keys I think
unless you play an arms build that does significantly less aoe iirc
clever path
That too, especially on a boss where big burst is key, the absolutely nukes I can send on lust with damage amps as fury feels wild
random raptor
This sims a lot higher for aoe for me, but i lose 2200 dps in ST
So since I want to push IO and a lot of the bosses in raid include aoe.. I'm not sure if I should change it
lime hound
my neck sucks and i dont have a 2 emblemishments yet should i make lariat or torc?
random raptor
yeah howling runes sim higher than hissing for me
what do you mean by referring to
fading bane
my neck sucks and i dont have a 2 emblemishments yet should i make lariat or tor...
dont make lariat
fading bane
what do you mean by referring to
what items are u chacning
im not gonna deep dive for 5 min to find outmyself
random raptor
cape and ring, ring enchants, weapon enchants and gems
lime hound
ffs u cant put shadowflame on neck
still ibex
my neck sucks and i dont have a 2 emblemishments yet should i make lariat or tor...
If you do not have 2 embelish then do not make neck
fading bane
random raptor
pulsar prawn
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vZXMS5pyZpVA7st9hmUUW4
normally m+ sims are 45-60sec 5 target no BL and 3min BL 1 boss .... but yeah also weird ure using haste runes
fading bane
those sims are just not accurate for real m+ tho
whatever sims highest on ST is best for 99% of situations for m+
trinkets are an exception
but like u know which ones perform better in m+
random raptor
Ok I'm new to this so I'll just run the best changes to my gear for ST and it should be fine
thanks for your help everyone appreciate it a lot
dark ice
Do you always use the empowered BT from 2set with bloodbath ?
fading bane
Pretty much, u also dont want to gimp ur ST to do 3% more AoE
fading bane
Do you always use the empowered BT from 2set with bloodbath ?
Yes
Earthen is also just better than Wafting for m+
and very close on ST
enchants and gems dont really matter
vers and mast really good on ST and AoE
lime hound
no guide even mentions earthen
fading bane
for some it sims higher than wafting on ST
on maybe 1 wep
but its better than a haste proc on AoE
glad tangle
but like u know which ones perform better in m+
Is it might + augury?
fading bane
those are ideal yes
vapid belfry
is double gorehowl the best for fury currently if both are maxxed? at 483?
glad tangle
ST is rezan and brand? (Depending on sims of course)
glad tangle
Cool ty!
fading bane
but cant account for that
fading bane
489 augury sims higher thna 483 Rezan for me
its also better on every fight
the only fight where Rezan can beat Augury is Volcoross
ig Nymue aswell
median hound
Does buffed Bloodthirst get prio over rampage?
median hound
ok
olive wraith
Ye, you wanna avoid casting tier buffed bt if you can help it
lime hound
@fading bane how much do u sim ST
fading bane
222k
trail summit
Spear over Roar?
trail summit
With might and verdict?
olive wraith
What is verdict
trail summit
Verdict Spear 50% extra damage and rage generation increased 100%
molten relic
elysian might 25% more crit damage
clever path
i just died trying to reflect foul bolt
molten relic
and we have guaranteed crits
clever path
did they fix it
trail summit
yeah
olive wraith
Elysian might is indeed the one people use
And this is strictly for ST btw
Roar is better aoe
trail summit
gotcha
dark ice
Can you track the bad luck protection ?
clever path
Is verdict the other capstone?
yeah conduit from sl
dark ice
Since I just used the item. Feels like it should be added somewhere
clever path
instant damage increase and rage gen
clever path
Spear over Roar?
one thing to note is that even in pure st
roar is very close
and thats assuming 100% uptime of elysian might
olive wraith
Since I just used the item. Feels like it should be added somewhere
I don’t think they’ve said you can track it
Just gotta believe
clever path
and on bosses where its cringe to sit in spear such as volcoross a lot of warrs go roar
worldly shard
if i have 467hero cloak and 447 s2 waist, should i just craft waist and slap shadowflame on it?
olive wraith
I mean I’d rather just craft the cloak personally
worldly shard
i have allied wrist
trail summit
I was just messing around with class tree. I mainly do m plus going to keep, but going to drop stormbolt/rally for bitter/seismic
olive wraith
You can farm belt
clever path
if i have 467hero cloak and 447 s2 waist, should i just craft waist and slap sha...
id just craft the cloak
olive wraith
I was just messing around with class tree. I mainly do m plus going to keep, but...
For raid? I don’t think I’d go bitter immunity
clever path
the reason why you craft cloak/wrists is because they are low impact slots
trail summit
Only do m plus and pug some normal/heroic.
olive wraith
But also I’d need to see your build to give actual advice
trail summit
Its the 16 to 20 bracket randoms. Don't even think it matters
olive wraith
Personally I think it matters even more in pugs
trail summit
16
olive wraith
Aspect is 16
trail summit
I'll mess around with a run or two. See how it goes.
I feel like bitter a good choice for pugs. Keep you alive a bit longer if the healer is poor.
barren ore
16 = aspect crests, 17 = heroic items end of dungeon, 18 = mythic items in the vault
olive wraith
Fury is already incredibly durable
tacit crag
If bitter immunity saves your run then storm bolt would have saved it far more times.
olive wraith
Butter immunity seems like a waste
tacit crag
Bitter immunity ain't gonna save a bad healer from bricking a key. Storm bolt at least can save bad DPS from failing to interrupt casts and save healer from healing 300k hits
trail summit
I wish I had butter immunity. I'd be eat ingcookies all day.
modest condor
bitter immunity is so niche that even in the dungeons where the dispell is useful i feel like you're better off taking something else
tacit crag
I wish I had butter immunity. I'd be eat ingcookies all day.
Sugar is the more dangerous culprit for me than the butter.
trail summit
You make a good point on bitter and cookies.
olive wraith
Isn’t the cooldown like 3mins
hollow elk
We got so many defensives I don't even think we would ever need 1 more. Rather get berserker rage than bitter immunity. If I could pick one of the two
trail summit
Yeah it's long 3min
hollow elk
Miss berserker rage on rezan so much
trail summit
I take berserk rage for atal and throne
worn rain
bitter was made for one and only thing - to safely pad on tott gauntlet
trail summit
As arms you could berserk rage the first fear and second fear bladestorm. Pretty neat
dark ice
hc fyrakk drops mount ?
hollow elk
Arms in bfa? Sacrilege
Wait I don't even remember bfa anymore
Did we or arms have blade storm
hollow elk
I miss the charge blade storm release button meme from sl
trail summit
I kinda like bladestorm as fury.
hollow elk
Only thing I miss from sl really
edgy widget
Huge PTR changes!
edgy widget
**Huge** PTR changes!
mossy fox
Champion!
modest condor
batchesting
edgy widget
people bitched about Bastion and SL connection, so they listened
sudden timber
🥲
median quarry
- raging blow renamed to champion's blow
- bloodthirst renamed to champion's thirst
- rampage renamed to champion's age
north edge
Went into mythic last night, my guild getting deleted by Igira 😭 16 pulls and lowest we got is 40% lol
It definitely felt harder than H Fyrakk which only took us 5 pulls
modern void
sudden timber
gzzzz
worn rain
unreal onyx
just looted my 4th might of the ocean
modern void
2 lessers 3 greaters was all the blp i had
unreal onyx
just gimme shoulders to catalyze
north edge
How in the fuck does 2 drop same run
unreal onyx
luck
unreal onyx
no luck