#fury

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lusty canopy
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it's a flex that you're richer too

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that's hard to beat

young swan
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the best lego this xpac is a purple bow from a blue bird

slim coral
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the lego could of just applied a fire dot

spare otter
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honestly buff the dot and remove the active

young swan
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i dont understand why the on use is literally just worse than any split damage trinket lmfao

lusty canopy
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but it's like having an extra split damage trinket in another slot

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  • ilvl diff
young swan
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it also has orange text

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  • 3 globals of opportunity cost
lusty canopy
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it is crazy that putting a 483 gorehowl in the off-hand and equipping fyralath MH is only a 5.5% dps increase in MT

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and 4.9% in st

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esp since my current OH is a normal smolder sword upgraded

unborn canyon
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only 400k ? dude on my server i had to spend 630 k for lego

clever path
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Anyone have a WA for how many targets are near to you for cleaving?

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I see deswind has a nice one for it

unborn canyon
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i wasnt complaing until i realised you cant auto during the cast

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now im meh about it

slim coral
lusty canopy
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holy shit

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it's just grieftorch in the weapon slot

spare otter
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leggo is mid just like warrior

slim coral
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it's def not lego worthy of a weapon though

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maybe a purple drop

uneven plaza
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Should we press BT in between Rampages / BB(when not rage-capped and enraged) or should we just send Rampage + BB everytime (disregarding 2p)?

muted star
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its still a bis weapon though, you could never cast the on-use and it would still be a better weapon than anything else.

lusty canopy
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yea but if it's gonna be bis it should go crazy

muted star
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that would be just asking to get nerfed though

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if its too much of an outlier

slim coral
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well ofc it's bis

slim coral
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it has the highest item level

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being bis means nothing

muted star
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it means everything, if it was orange text but wasnt bis you wouldnt use it

indigo quarry
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I can only agree with Xan

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Shit lego

young swan
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its literally just a regular cantrip weapon with orange text instead of purple

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and u are shilling for blizzard

indigo quarry
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I was expected 20k from it not 10

lusty canopy
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they literally never give STR users cool leggos though

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at least not in the last 10 years

spare otter
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i mean at least we get 496 ilvl...

unborn canyon
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i was super hyped to get it but using it was a little underwheelming not going to lie

lusty canopy
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yeah i think anyone would be hyped to get it

spare otter
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it's super underwhelming

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just feels like im using any regular wep

zealous dagger
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hello, which would be better to get crafted? the Vibrant wildercloth shawl or recraft my 3 slot gem elemental lariat? or the bracers for my bis?

spare otter
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because using active is dogshit anywa

slim coral
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are you high on cope or what

indigo quarry
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Active need to be hasted too

slim coral
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The gavel on use was 100 times better

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and it was bis with no orange text

lusty canopy
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gavel was pretty fire

indigo quarry
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Its swinging the weapon like an old man

uneven plaza
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Gavel / Jaithys xan

lusty canopy
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i forgot about gavel

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actually

unborn canyon
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i mean yea if you compare it to a gavel use it shits on it

indigo quarry
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Gavel was too stronk

spare otter
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does the active even have sound?

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i swear its silent while it's doing the 3 sec channel

unborn canyon
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yea he screams

spare otter
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swings the wep for 3 secs and no sound

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lmfao

young swan
lusty canopy
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should have made Fyr'alath a random raid drop

oblique trail
lusty canopy
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then make gorehowl the legendary

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now that would have been sick

oblique trail
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I might've scuffed the sim a bit but pretty sure I removed the right line

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so

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xd

young swan
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lol

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good item !

unborn canyon
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might even be a dps loss in execute if you would prefer the rage lmao

spare otter
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it must be

olive wraith
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Imagine

young swan
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i have a hard time believing you get more value out of the 3s lockout than 3 gcds of buttons

olive wraith
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Thatโ€™s 2 potential bb

young swan
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well its like an execute, ramp and a bb

spare otter
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exe - ramp - bb > fyralath

willow cradle
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Holy shit yeah thats a lot worse than I thought

olive wraith
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It really should be uncapped

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I mean bm pulling 2m with entire room pulls in brh

spare otter
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but we have thunderous roar and odyns fury!

young swan
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!

stoic valve
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Good morning... let me introduce my self.... i am 54 years old, loving this game... but really confusing sometimes when it comes to get appropiate gear, correct stas and rotations....
I have red some guides, but some of them is like reading chinesse to me.
Like... on season 3, the best stats are mastery and versality?... so i need to have my gear on theese 2?...
Would someone be so kind, and pacient to personally explain it to me?

Thanks

slim coral
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just ask questions and people will gladly answer

stoic valve
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Well... basically i will like to do more dps.... i am 455 item level, but i see People with less level doing a lot more dps than me

icy topaz
subtle lagoon
heavy ruin
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For sure the leggo is underwhelming, especially for warrior as using it to charge is probably a dps loss (no rage gen), it feels pretty bad for the cost of it etc

subtle lagoon
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But you're basically looking to get 4 set first and foremost, I think

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Is lego used on pull or during a pull?

lusty canopy
barren dagger
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My m+ enrage uptime in combat is usually close to 85%. Definitely fucking up right?

lusty canopy
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bro has gotten 2 signet brands

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straight up want to end it

subtle lagoon
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End the cash flow going into blizzard's pockets instead gladge

lusty canopy
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i can't really be mad i took a 6 month break

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because i got nothing but Zaqali Chaos Grapnels in aberrus

subtle lagoon
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I got oce late

lusty canopy
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came back last weekend, went from 442 to 474 in 1 reset and have a lot of pretty dece gear

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but i want that augury so bad

subtle lagoon
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Still have to do normal and hc, might get it copium

heavy ruin
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Augury or leggo? hopium

subtle lagoon
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Also vault copium

heavy ruin
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"Both"

mystic fractal
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My guild gave augury to our feral, that was a tilter.

sonic magnet
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first mistake was being in a guild with a feral

mystic fractal
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They told me they were referencing our sims to see who it was best for. The ones we submitted the night before the raid dropped. Without new tier or anything lmao.

icy topaz
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Kekw

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We sim every raid or no items

naive swallow
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where to exchange this ?

lavish verge
dry ruin
naive swallow
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got it , thanks

lavish verge
fallow oracle
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and odyns fury before avatar

stone rock
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Hello, warriors.. What do people craft this week?

severe fern
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ring

stone rock
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@severe fern - People not makin frostfire pants?

final delta
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what ever simbot tells me

severe fern
stone rock
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@severe fern - yeah im mostly gonna M+ ๐Ÿ™‚ And i have them in 447 by farf the lowest item i have ๐Ÿ™‚

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sim bot says 10k more dps makign them in 486 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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and im 477 ilvl ๐Ÿ™‚

tall turret
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Sounds like a good uppy then, I did ring this week.

celest sierra
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So this tier set absolutely gutted warrior specifically Fury. Bloodthirst is a very weak spell in general. Blizzard had to utilize our entire tier set to buff it and it still feels weak.

Secondly , the tier set forces us into Annihlator . Look at what we gave up for that . We gained Odyns fury, but we gave up Onslaught , we gave up Ravenger , and we lost Anger management , which kept our uptime almost 100% .

Now imagine if blizzard instead gave the buff to Raging blow. We would only trade Onslaught for Odyns Fury and warrior would actually be pretty meta and overall still get to keep its uptime . Yes with the set we would switch to reckless abandon still.

The raging blow build is so much more fun and efficient compared to this forced bloodthirsty/Bloodbath.

ALSO HTF DO WARRIORS GET INTO KEYS ON INCORPERAL WEAK. With raging blow we brought crazy damage , but with Bloodthirst we literally bring nothing anymore .

Also what is our offhand weapon doing if weโ€™re pressing bloodthirsty and not raging blow

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Thatโ€™s just my opinion tho

tidal heron
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I'm not gonna say anything about high push keys, but I have no issues getting into 20-22 key pugs as fury tbf.
Not that I don't agree with your tier set opinions, I also think it's a bit lackluster, but, it do be what it do be ๐Ÿ˜„

upbeat plume
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Oh man I thought we were done with the hate posts about tier lol guess not

arctic portal
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fury really wants 2 st trinkets in m+ ? ^^

mossy fox
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augury is very good in aoe too

upbeat plume
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I mean most people don't use signet unless you have a good tank for constant pulling

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But if you do it's probably baller too

arctic portal
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what are alternatives for m+ from m+ ? ๐Ÿ˜„

upbeat plume
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Might of the ocean is strong

tidal heron
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Might (Throne)

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Hourglass (Falls)

mossy fox
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signet brand is very good st if you can keep the stacks high throughout the key yeah

tidal heron
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Crab (Throne)

mossy fox
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st is very underrated in keys

upbeat plume
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Yeah I noticed a big difference this week on tyrannical bosses switching between might and signet

brittle phoenix
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Yeah itโ€™s been popping off for me on tyran so far

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Worn doll tech helps also

heavy ruin
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Worn doll tech?

tidal heron
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I'm running Signet+Rezan this week, little less in the aoe pump numbers, but I can make up for it on bosses

mossy fox
brittle phoenix
heavy ruin
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

mossy fox
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20m cd

tidal heron
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wait, is there still a toy that can be used like that in keys?

upbeat plume
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Well it saves one transition at least

tidal heron
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cause my training dummy doesn't work

mellow bobcat
celest sierra
tidal heron
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I've not seen might drop once so far ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

heavy ruin
mellow bobcat
arctic portal
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most aoe damage combo would be? hourglass + might?

heavy ruin
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Augury + might probably

celest sierra
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Iโ€™ve been swapping between MoTO , Rezan, Crab and now Iโ€™ve stuck with Might and Pips

arctic portal
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i dont have augury or pips atm :> i need to farm a second trinket next to might^^

heavy ruin
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I'm running Signet+Rezan, not the best for AoE, but with Tyra it's fine I guess.

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(Not like I have other options tho)

arctic portal
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i think im gonna farm hourglass then as passive trinket

heavy ruin
mellow bobcat
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do you guys macro might with recklessness?

patent dust
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you macro it with /yell Test your MIGHT

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no mortal kombat peoples in here? now I feel old

arctic portal
heavy ruin
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He plays it on his fury I guess he does

arctic portal
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He plays might + butcher if im not mistaken ๐Ÿ˜„

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ah that might be as arms

river yoke
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Hello i have a question, i looted ctaclystic 476, but i tryed it for 2-3 run and this IS ont very OP, i have to Switch target to apply dot mutly target ?

tidal heron
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the stacks are on you

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well, "on the trinket"

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you just gotta try and keep high stacks and not let them drop in between pulls

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it'll be great in certain dungeons, lackluster in other

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depends heavily on the dungeon and the tank

river yoke
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Okkk, the tank has to chain pack for good value for this trinket ?

tidal heron
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yeah

celest sierra
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On Tyran week itโ€™s great cause tanks should be chain pulling and big pulls. On fort . It might get difficult

tidal heron
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or you fat finger heroic throw sometimes ๐Ÿ˜‰

river yoke
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Si I really I don't need to siwch target ?

upbeat plume
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Heroic throw blame the hunter

celest sierra
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๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

upbeat plume
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Ones not in your group? Dosent matter still the hunters fault

tidal heron
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^

river yoke
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Thanks a lot for you're answer ๐Ÿ˜‰

thin steeple
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finnaly got the neck from BHR went from 44 mastery and 9 vers to 49 mastery and 14 vers

icy topaz
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My mirror trinket sims super high is it a sim trap?

dapper jacinth
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1h weps build is fine? @mossy fox

ionic mortar
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do the leggo epic items drop from normal?

timid nova
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How do you guys sim for m+, like the settings u use

mossy fox
dapper jacinth
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Wdym I don't have 2nd 2h

unreal onyx
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Buy one ratge

mossy fox
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ok then its fine

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get a 2nd 2h though

unreal onyx
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Or just loot one

dapper jacinth
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Real

mossy fox
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or just play arms, you can play arms

dapper jacinth
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I wanna try smth new Despairge

unreal onyx
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I tried arms on council yesterday again

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And we took like 20 tries to rekill it

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Such a shitshow boss for cleave/uptime for us

indigo quarry
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Tank skill too low

unreal onyx
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Or people eating greens when they are not supposed to

indigo quarry
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They need to stop chasing the bear

mossy fox
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i played fob arms yesterday on mythic council, forgot to spec crushing force critcake

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but still got r1

dapper jacinth
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Gamer

unreal onyx
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Also how have they not fixed the bear killing everyone around it when charging

dapper jacinth
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Raidin tday crit?

mossy fox
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i havent got clapped by charge after my first kill

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forever scarred

unreal onyx
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If thatโ€™s intentional it truly is despairge

mossy fox
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i raid thu sun mon anyway

dapper jacinth
unreal onyx
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Im going out of melee to never get hit again

main thicket
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Hello, my itlvl is almost 481. any suggestions about secondary stats cap ?
Mine is, 25 haste, 24 critical, 56 mastery (61 with weapons buffs), 14 versatility (19 with phial) are good?
Also Iโ€™m using trinkets rezan and mirror but I have branch and sandglass at my bag

clever belfry
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i cant soak how i used to anymore ff

spice sage
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I'm confused on the prio for execute, should I be doing bb > execute > rampage below 35%? or only pressing it when I can't rampage

main thicket
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Execute when ever is available

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Or pros

timid nova
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for me bloodbath does way more dmg than execute

main thicket
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Proc

spice sage
timid nova
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I am doing bloodbath and rampage whenever possible and only execute if i need rage

main thicket
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I know, so you have to check warcraftlogs from top warriors fury rotation and etc

main thicket
spice sage
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ye logs are weird when checking rampage casts cos it counts individual hits as casts for some reason.

main thicket
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Because it hits 4 times, at least thatโ€™s it what I understand

wet acorn
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Isn't every other global just always BT/BB and then rampage or exe/slam/ww if you can't rampage?

main thicket
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Rampage always to spend rage, specially if you have max rage
Y donโ€™t want spamming other skills which generate rage, so y will avoid to waste it

unreal onyx
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You want to get as many bt/bb off for OF cdr, if you can ramp then ramp into bt, then exe if you canโ€™t ramp again

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From what I understand

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Bc more OF = more big BBs

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= more dmg ratge

main thicket
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What means OF

unreal onyx
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Odyns fury

main thicket
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oh

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Yes

heavy ruin
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Only Fans

main thicket
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I think bloodcraze it helps more to reduce ondys cd

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Instead of slaughtering strikes

main thicket
main thicket
heavy ruin
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I think you just sim yourself and see what it says, that aren't real caps afaik

main thicket
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Yeah I sim but I think itโ€™s shows stupid results ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

heavy ruin
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Fury is more Mastery/Versatility heavy this patch

hollow elk
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for the most part you wanna stay away from crit and haste and go heavy on mastery/vers

main thicket
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Yeah but it need a minimum haste and grit

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You canโ€™t got to low ๐Ÿ˜‚

hollow elk
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sure so sim for it. once you see dps loss

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pretty much you wanna go vers mastery until diminishing returns push you to go haste then crit

main thicket
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Iโ€™m focusing at mastery and versatility but still I need those fucking neck from BLackrock, belt from tindral, ring from igira
At least I got to heroic axes from fall and tott

heavy ruin
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You get what you can, important slots are jewellery, for secondary stats

main thicket
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Now all my gems are versatility and mastery

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But still it need a lot of time until I start spending my vault for sockets

hollow elk
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I mean if the vaults are shit. Gemslot

main thicket
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Indeed

hollow elk
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Alot of people are already collecting gemslot cuz you got 483 gear and are just waiting for bus 489s

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Probably crafting a necklace next week cuz I just realized that we got like 4 necklaces this season and only tswift one is kinda okay

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Well in two weeks

heavy ruin
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With enough gems you could even craft a Lariat

clever belfry
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collect hole

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powerful technique

hollow elk
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Lariat will be there for m+ probly later

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I'm already running 18s and I don't care about mplus beyond vault rewards so meh

heavy ruin
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Even for ST it might be pretty good with enough gems

hollow elk
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Still need rezan trinket.

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I swear fyrak won't drop his trink ...or axe

heavy ruin
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Augury is pretty hard to get

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and let's not talk about the leggo...

hollow elk
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I mean it's only been week 3

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Week four? Shrug

heavy ruin
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Week 4 for the raid, week 2 since the leggo has been unlocked

hollow elk
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No they killed it before reset I think

heavy ruin
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It wasn't unlocked before reset

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Afaik

hollow elk
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Either way it will come whenever. Probly a week before season 4

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Heh

heavy ruin
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Or never

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I don't mind saving half a million ngl

hollow elk
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Can just dinar it next season

main thicket
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What means Leggo? Legendary

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?

heavy ruin
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Legendary yes

midnight mesa
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Guys I have a couple questions. I just got my 4p and starting to get used to the rotation. After OF, we do BT - Rampage - BT -Rampage - BT, right? And what about the rotation outside of OF? I've noticed that every ability used inbetween BT kinda resets it and allows you to do BT - ability - BT - ability - BT - ability, etc. Is that the right way to do it? Are we trying to use as many BT as possible (since it can lower the cd of OF)?

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Oh and one more question, sorry, is better to go for Roar or Spear? Thanks again

main thicket
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Rampage makes bt to be bloodbath

south kayak
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Nice

main thicket
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Use bt if not have rampage proc

wooden lance
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Spear is ~1% better in this season

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So you really can use whatever you like more

midnight mesa
midnight mesa
main thicket
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Ok

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I use sob at st bosses raid

midnight mesa
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I really want to know if outside of OF, the right thing to do is to throw a BT/BB every two abilities

shy knot
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Is fury or arms better for m+ around 20 ? The tier list shits on arms but that seems outdated

main thicket
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And thunderous when need aoe raid bosses and m+

midnight mesa
shy knot
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Critcake plays arms but it seems shitter to me, is it just the fury target cap ?

fallow oracle
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for 20s i definitely think arms is better cuz u can pull so big

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target cap feels like cheeks still

shy knot
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The fervor dmg is very unlimited

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But fury pumps bosses hard

fallow oracle
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pushing keys is far from settled at all tho, ppl that arent mythic raiding arent geared

hollow elk
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Mate it's been 3 weeks. Anyone that keys and raids is already 486 at least if not higher specially if you're already mythic raidin

wooden lance
hollow elk
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I'm 482 and I'm just being semi casual about it

mossy fox
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uh i dont think people are 486

fallow oracle
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ICANT

mossy fox
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might be a few out there but itd be very uncommon

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i'm 483, maybe i just dont play the game enough?

hollow elk
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Hue

wooden lance
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Well my highest key was 20 (but i started like 2 weeks ago) and i didnt seen any 480+ilvl in my groups :v

shy knot
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482 is anything but semi casual lmao

fallow oracle
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only ppl at 486 are legendary enjoyers

gentle rose
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im 495 jsut started playing

hollow elk
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8 keys a week normal and heroic isn't semi casual?

silver hare
shy knot
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I do that and have 470 ilvl so I smell cap

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Unless youre extremely 1% lucky

hollow elk
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Maybe your guild dont like you or something iuno

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I mean if running two keys a day and doing some raiding on weekend isn't casual then what is. Well probably start mythic next week

arctic portal
hollow elk
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How many are 495? And 494?

mossy fox
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nobody

hollow elk
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Eep phone

arctic portal
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these are the 6 highest ilevel players atm

hollow elk
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484 485 heh

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I'm trying to get dressed to go to work here : ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

arctic portal
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just stop pumping out fake things to make others feel bad

hollow elk
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Bruh

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How many are 484 and 485

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Who's making anyone feel bad

mossy fox
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my alt warrior has been doing 8 keys and heroic clear and is 476 i think

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doubt itd be 482 with good luck

shy knot
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Imo if youre above 480 youre either lucky or a sweat

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It is what it is

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The upgrade amounts are crazy

arctic portal
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main is 479.94, alters sitting at around 470

hollow elk
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I mean you can look me up it's not hard lol obv not hiding my acct name but okay. Might have a few more than 8 because I'm not looking to cling from every word someone says. I'm just having a simple conversating and I don't get " hurt" by some passinf comment

lavish grove
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482 peepoBlush

hollow elk
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Anyways have your fun now o7

sullen wagon
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Can confirm, with hard work you can do that, to go past that you need consistent mythic raiding loot

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Like 3-4 pieces

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So you maximize upgrades

shy knot
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The upgrades are just so tiresome

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1k stones for a damn weapon

mystic fractal
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Yeah, the flightstone farming is... alot

shy knot
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The prices should be cut by half honestly

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The crests are fine

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But the damn stones

lavish grove
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Just do more keys clueless

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I do like 50 every week across 2 characters critcake

shy knot
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10 for 100 each kek

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So bad

arctic portal
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you either sit on cap flightstones for 3 month, or you totally run out of them in the blink of an eye, but sure there are worldquests that gives 20 when i need 1k for a weapon

lavish grove
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Seeds give plenty too

fading sky
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Haha

lavish grove
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But is boring

fading sky
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So true

quaint stag
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flightstones have been a pain since the initial week where you had a lot still. Iโ€™m sitting on 6 upgrades from crests but need like 1k flighstones

modest condor
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im out of wyrm crests :(

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needs 30 more for my last item to 476

arctic portal
modest condor
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damn big brain

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maybe if i looted something from mythic i wouldnt have had to spend all of them

fading sky
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True

quaint stag
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If only we had any tier shoulders or gloves drop in heroic. Not even wasting crests on upgrading 463 tier that would get replaced potentially next raid

arctic portal
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upgrades are free after you upgraded your former item to that ilevel

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so if you upgrade champion gear to 476 your hero loot is free from 470 to 476

quaint stag
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True but I used crests last week for 483 chest then best item vault was 489 chest. I have enough crests to do 6 upgrades this week between aspects and wyrm so waiting until heroic raid to see which one I upgrade because I havenโ€™t had time to farm more flightstones

south kayak
modest condor
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probably with .5

south kayak
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Holy shit this looks bad

south kayak
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What have they done to discord mobile

unreal onyx
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light mode???

south kayak
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I just wanted to see what it looks like

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Never mind

arctic portal
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light mode is for vegans

south kayak
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You have to get nitro for a cooler appearance

tardy lark
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there are 2 kinds of people in this world: dark mode users and psychopaths

south kayak
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Ok dark looks way better

arctic portal
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what other things we need to know about you since you are using light mode? trump supporter? baby killer? napalm user?

unreal onyx
#

warlock main propably

south kayak
#

Im a rogue main

#

Or warrior in my heart

unreal onyx
brittle phoenix
lavish grove
south kayak
#

Tag me again and Iโ€™ll flash you

#

Again

plucky ice
#

agen

warm crag
modest condor
#

wtf

warm crag
#

sorry..

modest condor
#

why you gotta be so rude

warm crag
#

sorry.. sorry..

south kayak
#

I hate farming wyrm crests

unreal onyx
#

how do you guys run out of wyrm crests

warm crag
#

not assigned enough hc/mythic loot

south kayak
#

Are you upgrading gear

modest condor
#

mythic not dropping any plate gear

unreal onyx
sullen wagon
unreal onyx
#

Im good on wyrm, I need aspect

plucky ice
#

signet hc acquired btw xan ez game bros

sullen wagon
#

I don't need any more wyrms personally

south kayak
#

Do 17s

sullen wagon
#

Life is good

plucky ice
unreal onyx
#

I don't need wyrms anymore either for my current gear

#

but if I get 1-2 more hc/m+ upgrades I need a few

#

wait, not even, upgrades to same ilvl are only flightstones, right?

warm crag
#

inclding a hc craft?

unreal onyx
#

hc craft?

warm crag
#

wyrm craft

unreal onyx
#

I got a wyrm crest spare from renown

#

im bing chilling

south kayak
#

I hate you

unreal onyx
#

just loot gear smh

arctic portal
unreal onyx
#

I made +7 ilvl overall this week alone

smoky wraith
#

Imagine getting a weapon

arctic portal
unreal onyx
#

I came up from 476/450 to 489/483 for my weapons this week

warm crag
#

ah you crafted w/ aspect

unreal onyx
#

2 aspect 1 wyrm craft

mossy fox
#

this week my aspect crafted upgrade was a bigger dps increase than 4x item upgrades

unreal onyx
#

might have been the same for me

#

I upgraded my 447 ring to 486

mossy fox
#

but the only aspect upgrades i could do were ring neck belt wrists anyway iirc

#

low budget slots, other than belt i guess

unreal onyx
#

next thing I'll craft might be boots or a belt

#

but crafting is also a bit critcake since you don't get 489

naive swallow
plucky ice
#

bro I need the fire owl

#

these are poop

naive swallow
#

jesus it looks hot

warm crag
#

go kill mythic quick !!

plucky ice
#

yes

#

easy

naive swallow
#

this lock got it on hc

#

is the drop rate known ?

#

by far the first legitimate mount since dragonriding imo

final delta
arctic portal
warm crag
#

why would you want hero track weeklies

terse ether
#

Since I am still confused where to press execute a question;

I am at ~70rage , reckless buff is on , I have sudden death proc ( free execute ) and an available Bloodbath.

IF I do BB or Execute I will have enough rage for Rampage .

Do I press BB > Rampage and avoid execute proc while Reckl is on ?

Or I overcap rage to hit the sweet execute and the rampage ? ๐Ÿ˜›

narrow narwhal
#

Overcap I guess. Though I keep reading that you only hit execute when you have ashen juggernaut

terse ether
#

It's not very detailed on what to do tbh

#

because on rota says, do execvute when available

marble schooner
#

if its an SD proc you can delay Exec some seconds if you are overcapping too much

#

but on Exec phase just do BB>Exec>Ramp constantly

#

this build is much more forgiving of overcapping than builds before

tardy lark
#

Not playing AM does that

#

I miss AM

warm crag
#

die am die

tardy lark
#

AM cool

#

RA not cool

warm crag
#

i get assigned a mechanic bye bye synced cds

tall surge
#

It's funny how ppl hated on RA and now most of them seems to enjoy it

modest condor
#

die RA die

gentle terrace
#

I miss anger management

acoustic furnace
mossy fox
#

fury isnt the same without AM sadga

#

this OF cdr aint doing it for me

unreal onyx
#

AM concept good

#

relying on 100% uptime bad

lavish pond
prime plover
#

Hey guys. I seem to be doing low damage in M+ compared to sims. What might I be doing wrong? I have 4 pcs tier 31. Also, I don't really know the priority for bloodthirst/bloodbath I use it whenever I cant Rampage or Execute. But if I have the 3 available in which order should I use them?

slim pollen
#

I don't mind what version we play, i just wish they would "fix" the problem of 2 different buttons doing the same spells, but not merge/add to buffs.
Overwriting and ruining your damage for pressing your cds too quickly just feels bad imo

unreal onyx
#

I catch myself holding CDs more than in S2 where I just sent whenever up

#

idk why

#

but I should propably just send whenever

unreal onyx
#

real

dapper jacinth
#

@clever belfry

clever belfry
dapper jacinth
clever belfry
#

i just came home king

dapper jacinth
#

Ok

#

Today keys ander

#

Lately

clever belfry
#

unsure

oblique trail
#

@clever belfry

#

uwu

clever belfry
#

owo

wispy dock
#

Thereโ€™s gotta be an AM build in there somewhat

mellow cradle
#

Did a nm fyrakk yesterday and to my suprise I did well smashing BB

red sky
#

yo i heard some ppl saying that dslice is now optimized for warrior? do i trust dslice over mdt?

dapper jacinth
clever path
#

Does it matter wich loot spec or spec you are in when you kill fyrak for lego?

#

or its drops by class and not spec

hollow elk
#

Drops to class

clever belfry
dapper jacinth
rich marlin
young ether
#

if you killed a boss on mythic, can u still get bad luck protection from hc bosses?

spiral ermine
#

yo, how i sim with other runes?

heavy ruin
flat river
#

YOOOO

warm crag
#

if you wanna sim them all at once you can nab that string that gets reposted like daily and throw it after your simc string in advanced sim

flat river
#

wassap guys

warm crag
#

i responded to the wrong message

#

.

spiral ermine
#

ok, ty !

lavish pond
#

guys, maybe will sound stupod

#

but

#

do main hands and offhands give different stats in terms of damage?

#

should i put spesific weapons on specific hands?

unreal onyx
#

highest ilvl in main hand

#

always

#

no matter stats, ilvl is king

lavish pond
#

oh so its just for ilevel , nothing more

unreal onyx
#

well secondaries ofc influence the dmg overall, but for weapons ilvl is king in 90% of cases

lavish pond
#

ok, got it thanks

sullen dove
naive swallow
#

guess who's tanking

heavy ruin
#

I would say monk, but it could be the DH ๐Ÿค”

red sky
#

its the dh

#

a good dh

#

and a bad monk

naive swallow
#

good god

#

this game is just F.I.N.E.

red sky
#

i never understood ppl complainign about tank damage, dungeon goes by faster its a win win for everyone

heavy ruin
#

I don't mind tank damage ngl

#

The more they do the better

red sky
#

agreed

heavy ruin
#

If they beat some dps specs with the same gear and the same skill level, maybe not tho

red sky
#

thats true, but thats not the case here

#

either the monk is low geared

#

or just not that good. I know monk is not high up right now, but yeah

heavy ruin
#

WW is bad rn but still haha

red sky
#

and yeah dont have to talk about the hunter do i?

heavy ruin
#

BM is so strong in Throne

#

low geared or shit or not BM

red sky
# naive swallow

Also i think you might wanna update your details? it shouldnt count ozumat damage

heavy ruin
#

Yeah it was fixed like a week ago

#

It does count the damage but it's tuned to normal numbers

#

iirc

mossy fox
#

meters didnt move at all last time i got to ozumat last phase

red sky
#

yup stops counting

heavy ruin
#

Ok mb!

red sky
#

did like 20 throne keys in the last 4 days

#

dw ๐Ÿ˜„

heavy ruin
#

I wonder why you did so many ๐Ÿ‘€

#

You MIGHT have a problem

red sky
#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

yeah i cant get shit

modest condor
#

imagine not just getting it from the vault

lime hound
#

hey everyone, im new to warrior class and melee in general for this patch. from my years playing this game never mained a warrior

red sky
#

guys you simming mdt or dslice? my mdt doesnt even want me to go for might, dslice does

lime hound
#

loving life when i pop all my cds

meager void
#

I had understood that chaging prio for Execute outside of Execute phase was unnecessary.

#

that using the SD proc or trying to keep up Ashen Jugg was a dps loss

#

not saying to not use Execute. I mean not changing its prio due to SD proc or Ashen Jugg stacks.

#

I know I'm beating a largely dead horse but the msg I quoted seems to be contrary to the logic I had understood.

rustic obsidian
#

Just smash ramp > BB duo if u have the possibility...then its exe > bt > slam > ww

terse ether
#

How much increase does the greater gives for leggo?

#

0.5% or 0.05%

fleet parrot
#

Truth is no one knows, no one knows the actual drop chance or the BLP chance

terse ether
#

Minus? ๐Ÿ˜†

fleet parrot
#

Blizzard havenโ€™t released it, and the sample size isnโ€™t big enough yet

hollow elk
#

Only seen a single minor spark thing.

terse ether
#

Fury or arms for mythic council?

gentle terrace
#

play what you're more comfortable with. if your tanks are consistnetly having two bosses next to each other, then arms may pull ahead slightly.

#

that fight honestly isn't a dps race its making sure you do mechanics

gilded nova
#

What enchants do I run on weapons? 2 x Wafting Devotion?=

lavish grove
#

Sim

urban tapir
hollow elk
stark apex
#

worst fight in the raid

exotic parrot
#

is mirror trinket yay or nay?

naive swallow
#

FUCK YEAH 65th run

#

finally , jesus

heavy ruin
#

congrats!

slim pollen
#

Gz ๐Ÿ˜„

warm crag
#

no avoidance go again

naive swallow
#

thankyou kind souls

#

omg , im rekt

#

seems like waycrest might be my next jail

graceful dock
#

forgot to change talents before my +21 and had no way of getting whirlwind stacks

#

zero cleave O.o

pulsar mason
past pivot
#

Check talents before starting. Same with gear

pulsar mason
#

Yes

graceful dock
#

im fucking stupid

#

i noticed like first pull

#

couldve easily just done that

south kayak
past pivot
#

+10

urban tapir
#

(parses)

south kayak
terse ether
#

+*/+/9+9687

shell jackal
#

i don't want to farm DHT

past pivot
#

Then don't

shell jackal
#

but that neck and ring are a 0.5% upgrade that's like 600-700 dps man

#

its gotta be done keks

narrow narwhal
#

You'll get them in vault eventually

gentle terrace
#

I didn't get a myth track vial from Underrot until the 2nd to last week of s2, which was the 3rd time I saw that trinket all season. It took 58 runs for me to even get my first, which I didn't even loot and had to ask a nice holy pally to roll ret for me

#

so fuck that

past pivot
#

Time is money friend. Should be a bigger upgrade than that to spend more than a run or two on, imo

still swift
gentle terrace
#

lol

#

ok

#

always one mf

grand gazelle
#

Anybody get a legendary yet?

#

Or is the bad luck protection exponential so we are all going to get it like 3 months in

covert blaze
#

a bunch of people got it these past few days

native wadi
#

next week i will have it

#

already spoke w blizz

eternal sundial
#

Guess how many atals i did before i saw an eye drop

#

Actually ye i ran 0 atals, got it on myth and havent seen it drip since keks

hardy shuttle
#

Execute is lower damage than bloodbath. I usually try to pay attention to the sudden death proc vs the time left in recklessness. I ignore execute if SD ends before recklessness. And I save it if recklessness ends before SD.... probably not worth it though

#

Just execute feels better to press than slam when you need a filler

past pivot
shell jackal
#

i ran 32 atals and got my eye traded to me last night

#

now time to farm out might critcake

narrow narwhal
#

I got 470 mushroom from everbloom

eternal sundial
#

Might is not an uppie for me till i fix 2 other items Deadge

eternal nebula
#

is there a way to sim all gem combos with a wizard script or something or am i doomed and just put whatever

restive peak
#

Gem diffs are typically fixable w gear, and are like .002% diff between them, I really wouldn't waste a ton of time on gem simming

past pivot
#

Premium accounts can sim gem differences.

eternal nebula
#

so just sim what stat gem give smost dps and slam all?

restive peak
#

If gems are a massive diff for you, you're missing gear for sure.

#

I just run keen nelths+1 prim stat/haste 1, and sim gear swaps instead of gem swaps.

eternal nebula
#

idk, think I have everything sorted. every droptimizer is giving me 0.1's

restive peak
#

And I see a lot of other topend warrs who've basically picked a gem and sticking to it

eternal nebula
#

guess gems give fk all now

restive peak
#

It's an extremely, extremely minor optimization at this level of gear/stat bloat

fading bane
#

i had full high vers low mast sim highest one sim, then the next it was flipped

#

but same dps

restive peak
#

^

#

That's normal, hence why I recommend most people stop overthinking the gem sims lol

#

Maybe you pick 2 types to always check, if you wanna spend gold for 50-100dps every single new gear piece you get, but again...considering margin of error, it's likely pointless as fuck

fading bane
#

just sim mast/vers mast/haste and vers/mast

eternal nebula
#

guess i'll take vers for dr

past pivot
#

Zen Malygite come out best for me for ST so I just stick with that

eternal nebula
#

can we send noob gems on public?

stuck bison
#

Mast/vers untill you settle down with gearing

eternal nebula
#

or do they come back 2 stars and shit

past pivot
chrome plover
stuck bison
#

Yeah then you sim it and keep those gems untill the next tier

eternal nebula
#

2 star yeah

#

smh

finite ravine
#

Does the 4 set trigger off critical strikes in AoE?

unreal onyx
#

yes

finite ravine
#

Sweet baby Jesus

unreal onyx
#

but it doesn't matter how many crits

#

you only get max 1 proc per bb/bt use

finite ravine
#

Oh that's lame

narrow narwhal
#

It's still fun

#

Better than spamming RB doing wet noodle damage

unreal onyx
#

for m+ I liked the S2 build/rotation more

#

but for raid T31 is better

dense elbow
#

I just wish we could get OF doing actual dam on a 45 sec CD, and have Rav/AM. Best of both worlds purpleface

modest condor
#

you can by playing 2p2p

dense elbow
#

Sadly ilvl pushed it too far behind, but I could

modest condor
#

but 45sec OF still doesnt line up with AM

dense elbow
#

I don't want OF to line up with anything but Avatar wicked let rav/am/reck, be one thing. Ava/OF another

#

One fast and furious, other set but heavy

urban tapir
#

I think if the empowered bt was used on all 4 targets during WW it would feel a lot better

dense elbow
#

It would, would also be really really strong

urban tapir
#

For sure

modest condor
#

i mean yeah it would probably make our tierset like twice as strong as the 2nd strongest one on aoe percentagewise

#

but we would still get gapped by dh on overall

urban tapir
#

Make it 125% instead of 150% then or something

#

lol yeah dh gap is real

dense elbow
#

I rather not have ST nerfed

urban tapir
#

You get the idea tho :p

dense elbow
#

Still, if we somehow become obsolete in m+, they could activate the set in AoE

#

Give us a bump

#

Or buff OF by 51% baseline, ofc

fading bane
#

why are we dooming about fury when its in a good spot?

meager void
#

because Skyhold

dense elbow
#

We are not dooming, we in a decent spot

urban tapir
#

who is doomin lol

left perch
#

me, fury isnโ€™t that good

#

Itโ€™s alt material

dense elbow
#

Isn't best, better doom

left perch
#

itโ€™s just that other classes bring more of everything

#

not 1, like many

#

not about being best

dense elbow
#

So you think we are so far behind it is a problem? Be it m+ or raid

obsidian talon
#

Has any fury war gotten the Lego yet ?

dense elbow
#

Yep

coarse nest
#

Lindwar

#

Ye

urban tapir
dense elbow
#

Damage too far behind on ST or overall in m+ grinding your gears?

left perch
#

What exactly are you looking for

dense elbow
#

Your reasoning

left perch
#

do you know what else a dh brings to a key besides gapping

dense elbow
#

Tell me

pallid barn
#

Thereโ€™s no way you can sit here and say we are that far behind the rest man, we are in a good spot

obsidian talon
#

So I have a kinda noob question

dense elbow
#

Shoot

modest condor
delicate flume
#

Do yโ€™all have a hard time getting in keys?

loud basin
#

If your not top, your last kind of logic?

left perch
loud basin
#

Aug prison has jaded him

obsidian talon
#

At what percentage should I start avoiding haste on my gear ?

narrow narwhal
#

When the robot tells you to stop

modest condor
#

when your top gear sim stops telling you to equip pieces that increase your haste

dense elbow
left perch
#

yea after 2 tiers of โ€œjust run ur own keysโ€ and โ€œidk i got invitesโ€ I donโ€™t have that problem. jade city

dense elbow
#

It is solid points tho

stuck eagle
#

Warriors only bring bshout. Their utility is laughable. They need a good looking at. They are only there for damage while other dps are there for damage and more

dense elbow
#

If you got a problem, others don't it is just as valid as your xp.

delicate flume
#

Iโ€™m only 2760 on my dh cAnt get into anything over a 21

#

I could imagine if I started using the warrior

sterile stratus
#

You just push your own key

mossy fox
stuck eagle
#

While push your own key is valid it ignores that warrior does have a utility issue.

fading bane
mossy fox
#

dont think we're bad tho, just not as good on overall dmg as last season

#

true d2

modest condor
#

i mean getting beaten on overall is one thing, if it's within a couple % then it's whatever

dense elbow
#

Washed up, start reactionvid play instead

stuck eagle
modest condor
#

but i still havent seen a fury warrior beat 400k overall in any key meanwhile i've seen dh do over 550k

fading bane
#

i think my highset is like 370k

clever belfry
mossy fox
#

yeah it's a bit like mage early 10.1.5

warm crag
fading bane
#

how much does CF do in M+

modest condor
#

less than 1%

fading bane
#

Cruel Strikes does like nothing

clever belfry
#

not enough to pick it

mossy fox
#

very little

fading bane
#

like i dont pick that shit

#

but i only do weeklies

mossy fox
#

drop CF, drop cruel

left perch
fading bane
#

look how much utility this is

mossy fox
#

it's good

fading bane
#

Shockwave is a 40 sec aoe stun

#

its fucking nothing

left perch
#

Oh I thought it was more

clever belfry
#

dont really like dropping roar cdr

fading bane
#

"no utility" is hella cope cus u want ur 2% more overall dmg

#

same

loud basin
#

Still the only class to have a end tree talent be their AOE stun sadge

clever belfry
#

its not great but bleh

modest condor
#

eh

stuck eagle
#

Yeah even when. You spec into it, it's like "wow, I still offer shit compared to others"

mossy fox
#

cruel isnt even 2% overall i think d2

modest condor
#

with t31 it's pretty good to just keep the 1.5min roar

fading bane
#

short roar + cruel tho

clever belfry
#

yeah its less downgrade compared to what it was in s2 sil

#

that is correct

stuck eagle
#

It's not some sin to float the idea that maybe warrior needs a looking at.

delicate flume
#

I was really looking forward to picking my war back up but now Iโ€™m discouraged reading this chat lol

left perch
#

Maybe the anti doomers would prefer I say โ€œfury is fine, but there are a lot of other specs that are over performingโ€

fading bane
#

avg "we have no utility" players talents

stuck eagle
#

The reaction here to "maybe warrior is lacking utility" is weird. It's not an insult

clever belfry
#

luv me

stark apex
#

this is what i do for a mix of both

clever belfry
#

CF for shout and bolt

ornate gust
#

What is our priority? BB -> Rampage -> Bloodthrist -> Execute -> Slam

fading bane
pallid barn
#

Above middle of the pack, is fine? Not anti doomer

dense elbow
#

Could be neat to give rallycry a nodechoice tailered for 5man content. Those kind of things

clever belfry
#

or just play loboz chad build

fading bane
warm crag
#

what if you had a choice node instead of second wind that increased rally potency by 10% and increases the duration by like 3 seconds

mossy fox
#

seismic is literally 10% increased ww damage (on 3+ targets only)

warm crag
#

idk how often that'd get picked though

fading bane
#

Seismic + Endurance training

#

without shockwave

mossy fox
#

wasted point

clever belfry
#

go this build pussies

warm crag
modest condor
#

seismic is only good for padding parses in raid

fading bane
#

is it even good for that?

pallid barn
warm crag
clever belfry
#

with standard build

plucky ice
modest condor
fading bane
#

not wrong

mossy fox
#

may as well play banezi thunderclap build

clever belfry
#

i mean the banezi build is just bad right

#

but this

#

works

warm crag
#

@oblique trail

clever belfry
#

suprisingly

warm crag
#

ye if u pull like a maniac around the exact timings of that build it'll actually do dh damage

dense elbow
#

TC build does ok dam, it is 1h and shield arms tier

clever belfry
#

but u literally only do dmg every 90s

#

it does fucking nawt outside xdd

warm crag
#

ye but if ur travelling for 80s between ur cds ur chilling

#

chicking

modest condor
#

dont forget to use that on use trinket that lowers your stats afterwards

left perch
#

I want to be chicking

clever belfry
#

embersoul?

mossy fox
#

2 min trinket aintnoway

modest condor
#

whatever it's called it's bad for fury so i never looked at it

warm crag
#

vial omega lol!

clever belfry
#

447 vial = equipped

warm crag
#

puzzlebox lore for smolderon?

clever belfry
#

puzzling

warm crag
#

puzzling indeed

modest condor
#

puzzling

#

just run might augury

scarlet swift
#

Whatโ€™s the best way to find a guild that raids during specific times?

stark apex
#

do you think might is better than rezans?

modest condor
#

ofcourse

past pivot
mossy fox
#

might might be better than rezans on smoldy yes

modest condor
#

getting a big str boost during a 50% damage increase?

fading bane
#

Signet + Augury on Smoldyman tho

clever belfry
warm crag
#

i think you can specifiy times on rio but idk if humanoid guilds use that to recruit

clever belfry
#

thought of that

dense elbow
scarlet swift
#

Ty

dense elbow
#

Nps

modest condor
#

augury double dips from damage increases, might gives big mainstat during burn phase

mossy fox
clever belfry
#

ama

modest condor
#

why do you still play

stark apex
#

lol

pallid barn
#

Sadge augury is going prio to dhs and possibly tanks in my guild

fading bane
#

im in love with augury

mossy fox
#

siggy brand is fully stacked for last intermission right

unreal onyx
#

ya'll don't have them all yet?

fading bane
#

we havnt had it drop since like week 2 either

stark apex
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i have augury but no signet yet

dense elbow
modest condor
clever belfry
mossy fox
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augury was given to dk tank yesterday

stark apex
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my raid hasnt seen a single signet brand drop

mossy fox
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im not upset

plucky ice
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tanks

clever belfry
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but not all jelly

bitter fable
stark apex
pliant berry
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Yo guys, as a fury war is 190k dps on smold good? Or is there some tech?

fading bane
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signet stacked at 3:30

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and smoldyman is like almost 7 min

warm crag
clever belfry
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aug can use augury

mossy fox
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o nice maybe you have 2 fully stacked intermissions then

clever belfry
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for the vers crit m+ build

mossy fox
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aug with aug holy

fading bane
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you should ye

clever belfry
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AUGury

pallid barn
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Bets on when crit gets leggo drop?

scarlet swift
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Would you not use signet on fights less than 3:30 minutes? No ramp time?

warm crag
fading bane
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this log was a 15% wipe aswell

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didnt have last intermisison in there

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augury is good for dh, but its better for warriors

pallid barn
dense elbow
clever path
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Hero Aug went to a mage yesterday

fading bane
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cus DH uses Branch + Signet Brand

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and drop it eventually

warm crag
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ic

plucky ice
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our normal augur went to a dumpster mage

chilly rivet
plucky ice
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not even mad , ill get mine from vault

sterile stratus
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Bring back crit banner

chilly rivet
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I use aug + branch in aoe situations obviously too

mossy fox
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ill never get augury man

pallid barn
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Leggo before augury for sure

unreal onyx
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just do nm/hc/myth every week clueless

warm crag
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augury banned from my vault

mossy fox
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actually we prolly stop doing hc very soon, maybe we skip from next week even

unreal onyx
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we will only do skip from next week on

dense elbow
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You can easily pug fyrakk tho? Do viewer trade run

unreal onyx
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I ain't trading anything

dense elbow
mossy fox
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when i dont need to do hc with guild i can pug it

modest condor
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imagine doing a viewer raid for gear funnel and then the viewers being like "nah im keeping this"

dense elbow
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Content

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Make some drama about it

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Win win

pallid barn
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Is it not worth to still run heroic weekly for lesser fyrakk legendary thingies?

scarlet swift
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Iโ€™m in, letโ€™s do some scripted drama

covert blaze
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Critcake Asmongold arc

mossy fox
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lmao

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i dont rly think i'd do a viewer lootfunnel raid anyway

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feels stinky

dense elbow
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Crit, mount comp when?

vivid moth
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Asmoncake or critmangold?

scarlet swift
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CritcakeReacts

plucky ice
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can I get that xan

dense elbow
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"I was #1 in DF!"

mossy fox
fading bane
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who even needs hc loot smh

mossy fox
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maybe i need to just unequip rezan to pad my augury sim

warm crag
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those sims are cooked for sure

clever belfry
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sim cookers

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sim cookers

stark apex
# mossy fox

start throwing you sims make it look insane and say apl for war was updated

clever belfry
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sim cookers

plucky ice
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don't upgrade items, ez sim pad

warm crag
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wtf is that rogue wearing to gain 3.3k

dense elbow
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Get more crit versa, the ln swap trinky

warm crag
stark apex
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๐Ÿค”

modest condor
mossy fox
vivid moth
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My guild is giving augury to all mages the 1 in raid and the 2 bench ones before anyone else lmfao

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Kill

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Jkjk

warm crag
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why

fading bane
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whats the point of giving it to someone that has a bigger upg, but will replace it

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u never unequip augury as fury

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its just too good in every situation

mossy fox
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ye idk i guess its fine to give to bdk if its the same for them

stark apex
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they are saving the mythic one for you crit

mossy fox
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flat dps trinket good for tank if you want raid dps i guess

dense elbow
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Big for DH too, no?

mossy fox
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dh already has it

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he got first one

dense elbow
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Happy DH peepoBlush

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I just hope crit gets legendary soon, so we can get some morale boosting content

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A lot of warriors dooming

fading bane
silent burrow
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it seems so underwhelming for what it costs in time and gold

fading bane
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i get 11k dps, gimme that shiet