fury

[ancient canopy]

is downtime still there with T31 and good stats? I feel like I have pretty much downtime with no SET and 410 ilvl for a fresh alt

was just wondering

if its get better with stats/set or no

[sage nimbus]

every so often i hit a dry spell of like half a GCD, i might be playing it a bit wrong though

[random raptor]

I feel like with my gear/stats being high, I don't get any down time at all as long as I'm rotating properly

[strange drift]

is this a good tyra build for high keys ? i see people running it but idk would rather get others opinions

[south kayak]

What happened to discord on my phone

[patent dust]

Is it worth to use a on use trinket for fights like smolderon?

My head says yes

[random raptor]

What trinket? Usually you would always use it?

[south kayak]

On use buff

Or attack

Like branch

Also, trinkets like branch do more damage when you have the buff from the orbs

[turbid needle]

moments before disaster

[strange drift]

lmao

[gilded pawn]

this is me

[turbid needle]

[noble elm]

Can’t we just mass report someone and get them suspended?

[misty helm]

So how is the legendary is it even worth spending the fortune on or nah

for fury ofc

[strange drift]

depends

[gilded pawn]

yes

thats what happened to me

[noble elm]

We could use the power of zug for good or evil

[gilded pawn]

even thouhg my name is literally true

[turbid needle]

i got autobanned cause someone reported me 5 mins after i got flagged for namechanged from iluvcum to cummaster

[random raptor]

I think I sim'd 8k higher with it, but I don't have the copy string that I used from this discord yesterday

[misty helm]

the factors being what?

[strange drift]

do you have enough disposable income

[misty helm]

lmfao

[random raptor]

I spent 450k on mats its not too bad

[noble elm]

Does branch respect orbs?

[random raptor]

now it just needs to drop

[noble elm]

I assumed it wouldn’t

[strange drift]

i mean

[south kayak]

What happened to this game, people used to find this funny

Now it’s report worthy

[misty helm]

is it even considered "Bis" for fury in a perfect world

[strange drift]

payin half a mil for a weapon u will use for like 10 months and then replace it with a blue from new dungeon is gonna be funny xD

[noble elm]

Just go play path of exile you can name your char literally anything

[turbid needle]

ye idk how you can be so butthurt over a name bro, i even made sure i wasnt toxic to anyone on this guy so report literally only coulda been the name

[noble elm]

For most people half a mil is nothing though

[misty helm]

can say I am not one of those people

lmfao

[noble elm]

That’s like 2 wow tokens

[strange drift]

farming gold is fucking boring too

[turbid needle]

small loss after a night gambling during raid break

[south kayak]

I said the word come and it deleted my message

[noble elm]

Farm RL dollars and turn it into gold via token it’s far more efficient

[south kayak]

[turbid needle]

people these days think just because they have authority they should use it

[ocean cape]

i cant decide on my vault still lmfao

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sixvJ194o9LvtTf4nfVi7J

[south kayak]

You’re a schmuck

[turbid needle]

pick the trinket champ

[ocean cape]

but its hero T.T

[strange drift]

brand

[south kayak]

So

[strange drift]

no brainer

[turbid needle]

clear raid before you choose tho

[fading bane]

u pick brand

[turbid needle]

you might loot it

[south kayak]

Did you even kill mythic smolderon

[ocean cape]

done

[turbid needle]

ye pick the trinket man

[ocean cape]

alright alright

[south kayak]

How much better is axe now that it crits and scales with haste

[upbeat whale]

why is fury better than arms

[south kayak]

Because it is

[upbeat whale]

but why

[south kayak]

[upbeat whale]

what about it makes it better

[south kayak]

Tuning

As usual

[noble elm]

It has two weapons

Which makes it twice as good

[south kayak]

Fury is just tuned better

[ocean cape]

sustained aoe, single target, survival, utility

[south kayak]

The tier set favors st big time

[upbeat whale]

but i feel like im doing significantly more damage as arms than i am in fury, maybe its a stat issue, but i dont feel like my stats are too far off

[south kayak]

Interesting

[ocean cape]

you cant pull huge packs in high keys to maximize arms target cap

[urban tapir]

so play arms

[noble elm]

With no tier and lower ilvl this is usually the case

[urban tapir]

ez

[upbeat whale]

im 473 with 4 set

[upbeat whale]

thats what im thinkin

[south kayak]

Fury just does more for me

[urban tapir]

[brittle crow]

blizz confirms bad luck protection is working as intended?

that means the system sucks and is smelly because ive killed fyrakk TWICE and dont have it yet

[unreal onyx]

real

[upbeat whale]

facts

[unreal onyx]

just deposit leggo in my bags

and it works as intended

[ocean cape]

i gave up arms this week because you either do no mob damage just to do mediocre boss or no boss damage just to do mob damage

[noble elm]

“It’s working, promise”

guys it’s totally not working what do we tell them

[brittle crow]

if it was working, id have it already

someone needs to be fired

[south kayak]

[brittle crow]

well with any luck i get aotc tonight 🙏 so ill get it then

right?

[ocean cape]

120k st with aug just to do 300k avg aoe

or sit at 250k for entire keys

[south kayak]

I’ve seen some biz arms videos

[ocean cape]

we're not biz tho

[upbeat whale]

are you saying thats arms vs fury?

[south kayak]

He owns on aoe but on st it’s like

[ocean cape]

biz is a god

crit is a god

[brittle crow]

i could beat crit in a fight

irl i mean

[ocean cape]

irl?

[south kayak]

I know I didn’t finish my sentence

[ocean cape]

haha fair

[sullen wagon]

Seems like arms credo

[urban tapir]

we only care about in-game WoW here sir

[ocean cape]

fury for me has had higher overall and st

and considering its tyrannical week...

[sullen wagon]

Fury is just better rn, it's ok to say it

[upbeat whale]

interesting. I just havent had that same experience and i dunno why

[ocean cape]

what keys are you running

[brittle crow]

@ silm
i think ive been convinced to play dancing blades on tyran weeks

its fun, u were right

[upbeat whale]

20s

[ocean cape]

i mean fort week with bladefury on 22+ was fun

[south kayak]

How is he gonna find this post if you didn’t even tag him

[brittle crow]

im scared to ping the stormforged 🙏

[ocean cape]

also fury is trinket dependent i think, moreso than arms

idk if im true or not

[south kayak]

What trinket

S

[upbeat whale]

in fury?

[south kayak]

Might?

[brittle crow]

brand and branch ez

[ocean cape]

the s tier trinkets in fury elevate you

[south kayak]

I have those 2 lmao

[ocean cape]

theres no major trinket for arms thats like game changing

[upbeat whale]

sandglass, signet, and mirror atm

all 476+

[stable frost]

coming here because I just simmed this myself and ran across the hideously cursed result of SMF simming higher for me atm than TG, then I found your comment

[south kayak]

Wrong tag, I have those 3

[latent vapor]

fellow warriors, is there a difference if you fly with 1. feathers or with 2. feathers in mythic tindral P1 and P2 to do more boss dmg?

[south kayak]

2*

[brittle crow]

SMF WILL NEVER BE GOOD

😭

idk what the convo was about

[south kayak]

I need better trinkets

Help

[stable frost]

like Im just assuming the API wigs out when you try it and it's spitting out bad results because Im having a hard time coming to terms with the idea of it being viable for me at any point in time

[patent dust]

Do +18 of AD until your eyes bleed.

[upbeat whale]

is rezans really that good?

like i know its good, but is it THAT good?

[ember apex]

it's pretty pog....

[patent dust]

I don’t have the top 2, but rezans and branch both do a good amount of dam

[south kayak]

It’s the best in st

Branch is first boss?

[patent dust]

Yea

[south kayak]

I have that

[noble elm]

It’s pretty good in st

[south kayak]

It’s actually pretty big

[patent dust]

I got lucky and got a mythic rezans

[south kayak]

Sheesh

[patent dust]

But I also have no lifed AD

[upbeat whale]

ill definitely try to get it, but i dont think its the difference that im seeing making arms c tier and fury A tier

[noble elm]

I have a myth rez and a heroic Aug and Aug beats it but rezans generally comes out on top of most other stuff for st

Maybe signet might be better

[maiden ingot]

I wanna try something, is there still a way to customize your iteration amount / switch off of Smart Sim in Raidbots (can't find it anymore atm) or do I have to go Advanced?

[south kayak]

Remember when rezans was a haste proc

[upbeat whale]

good times

wonder why they changed it

[south kayak]

There’s already a haste proc trinket

[ocean cape]

i did it

we're branded

[hasty path]

[south kayak]

Why isn’t your mastery 60%

[patent dust]

Wat? Why u have a mace?

Maces are dogwater

[south kayak]

Wdym

[ocean cape]

im just moving over from arms

[hasty path]

[south kayak]

Understandable

[patent dust]

Just compare weapon damage

[noble elm]

Water is water when yer thirsty

[ocean cape]

oh shit switched

[patent dust]

Crafted axe my bro

486

[south kayak]

I have to craft axe

[hasty path]

[south kayak]

No hero track weapo

[urban tapir]

Myth Gnarlroot is good wym

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/stupid-town-bikini-bottom-spongebob-squarepants-sipping-patrick-the-starfish-gif-15590204

[warm crag]

what are you on about

[urban tapir]

fr dont listen to him lol

[turbid needle]

being banned such a snoozefest bro like wtf do i do now

[south kayak]

Fr fr ong, no cap

[south kayak]

Skill issue

Can you appeal @turbid needle

[warm crag]

what did you get banned for noob

[south kayak]

Name

[patent dust]

Compare weapon damage maces vs sword vs axe vs pole arm. How is this not considered? Weapon speed was normalized not the dog though.

Dmg *

[warm crag]

comparing

damn they're the same

[hasty path]

DPS is literally all that matters

lmao

are you for real

[turbid needle]

probably could but i forgot password to my email

[ember apex]

hard agree

[turbid needle]

and its only 2 day ban anyway

[south kayak]

Weapon damage isn’t real, it can’t hurt you

Weapon damage =

[warm crag]

actually you're right i think the tooltip dps of one of the weapon types is like 0.02 lower than other weapon types

[south kayak]

Only

[hasty path]

average #fury chatter man

[urban tapir]

[turbid needle]

2 day already feels like an eternity

[south kayak]

Now you can touch grass

How does it feel

Btw I was in a normal pug as a bm hunter

447

Was outdosing or doing similar damage to 3 bm hunters who were 470

Outdpsing

[hasty path]

average bm hunter main

[south kayak]

[hasty path]

i mean

if ur a fury main

ur not much better but like

yeah bm hunters man

[south kayak]

Fotm rerollers

[hasty path]

yeah but its literally a 3 button spec

the easiest spec in the game by a mile

idk how you can possibly be bad at bm

[south kayak]

I actually have no idea how they can’t do anything properly

Like you have to be doing it all wrong

[warm crag]

me when i out de other side 3 bm hunters

[hasty path]

they're probably just literally auto shotting

[hasty path]

except "it all" is like

kill command repeatedly

and combra shot or w/e its called

barbed shot

keeping stacks up

and then press your CDs when they come up

[south kayak]

2, not 3, typo

[hasty path]

like... there's no "all" to it

[south kayak]

Doesn’t matter lol

Maybe they think it’s so simple rhey don’t need to read up a bit on rotation that they just don’t know it

It can happen

[hasty path]

except it is that simple

lmao

[south kayak]

Imagine if they played outlaw

God have mercy

[hasty path]

literally just "Press Barbed Shot>Kill Command, slam your CDs, cobra shot if u have to"

[latent vapor]

does somebody know if there is a difference if you fly with 1. team feathers or with 2. team feathers in mythic tindral P1,P2 and P3 to do more boss dmg?

[south kayak]

I got 4 today too

Tried survival

Fun at

Af

4p

[hasty path]

i only played surv in year of the spear

slam bombas and win

[south kayak]

More like year of the bomba

[hasty path]

yeah except year of the spear has insane flow

[south kayak]

You actually drop more bombs rn

There is no rng like the KC spam

I charge thinking it’s over

[turbid needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991408922894270595/1181700972213452810/WoWScrnShot_120523_215541.jpg?ex=658203ca&is=656f8eca&hm=81f679ea2100b15949759e26e024da0f2a4492364ba8b97422f0c570cc93f0d4&

[south kayak]

He’s doing it wrong

Where’s kill command

[turbid needle]

true where is

bloodthirst

rampage

bloodthirst

rampage

[south kayak]

It’s bloodbath now

[turbid needle]

[trail bane]

you forget the rampage - slam - bloodthirst - rampage - whirlwind - bloodthirst - wait for slam - slam - rampage

:d

[wraith wharf]

👏

[weak ether]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-orc-angry-gif-12083808

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/classic-back-to-the-future-bttf-marty-mcfly-ive-seen-this-one-gif-19802188

[strange drift]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kLtNeYBu2uMxze7rwvj7fk still not breaking 200k on st sim

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/925857821759766550.webp?size=48&name=Sadge&quality=lossless

[charred panther]

I just got 201

[brittle crow]

wtf is newcomer chat

[charred panther]

Had me gemming some crit too

Even a crit enchant

[strange drift]

newcomer chat is the new barrens chat

its the best chat

[brittle crow]

how do i get in

[strange drift]

become a guide

[brittle crow]

a WHAT

[strange drift]

a guide

[brittle crow]

what is this, ffxiv?

[strange drift]

yeah

[brittle crow]

im supposed to kick new players out of parties not "guide" them fuck u mean guide

[turbid needle]

its where you talk to new players as guide

[patent dust]

Does axe benefit from enrage?

[turbid needle]

no you dont get the memo

90% being a ´guide´ is making fun of people in newcomer chat

[brittle crow]

i see i see

where do i sign up

[turbid needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/991408922894270595/1181699554857455737/WoWScrnShot_120523_215102.jpg?ex=65820278&is=656f8d78&hm=5c78f3ae7a4a98a124eca647344369853e04751ccf91dfa848906f5fffe8d017&

[wraith wharf]

/wave

[strange drift]

I actually help people to be a good person to roleplay a bit

[turbid needle]

[olive wraith]

Class buffs/mechanics almost never interact with on use things

[turbid needle]

ye sometimes i help too

when i feel like it

[strange drift]

yeaaaaaaaaaaah

[hallow hull]

Hey all.

[wraith wharf]

no its not "/wave" its /wave while targetting the NPC

[strange drift]

but trinks do

dont they

[olive wraith]

No

[strange drift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1055477589852049499.webp?size=48&name=susge&quality=lossless

[dire badge]

he do be

[turbid needle]

he really be

[dawn pivot]

why does raidbots force me to put my best gem into neck and not finger?

all time

[wraith wharf]

i think it just puts it into a slot, doesnt matter what slot

[tacit crag]

Why you want it on finger

[olive wraith]

Maybe because neck is a higher numerical slot

So it’s the first available socket

[tacit crag]

I'm pretty sure it's the slot furthest up the list

If your helm had socket it would put it there I think

[olive wraith]

That’s my guess

[dawn pivot]

I got crafted finger and wont move it anywhere

[tacit crag]

But crafted ring isn't bis

So you might move it

[hallow hull]

Question. Is Mirror simming high for Fury for some reason? I got 476 Signet Brand and 476 Razan. Yet Mirror is simming 1.2% upgrade for me. But I see it on other lists as not that high.

[tacit crag]

Mirror in Sims is overinflated is what I've been told. It's not as good as Sims show

[dawn pivot]

my neci isnt bis either

[olive wraith]

Imo crafted ring is bis

Cause flavor pocket

[tacit crag]

It desyncs easily. You can use all CDs on CD and then randomly mirror is available like 20s after CDs are hit

[hallow hull]

Ah I see

Might of the Ocean should still be a solid option for a on use.

[olive wraith]

Mirror syncs with every other avatar wdym

[tacit crag]

Food is cheap. Parses are eternal.

[wraith wharf]

the problem with that is

im cheap too

[olive wraith]

I’m not wasting 30 seconds eating mid dungeon

[tacit crag]

It desyncs. Use it in your own games if you want. It doesn't line up perfectly.

[olive wraith]

How

[tacit crag]

Don't die in m+?

[olive wraith]

Mirror is 3min no?

[past pivot]

flavor pocket

[tacit crag]

Yes but something about it causes the CD to desync

[olive wraith]

That’s literally why I said crafted ring lmao

[olive wraith]

You sometimes die out of your control

[tacit crag]

Gg rip key go next

[olive wraith]

That’s literally so dumb

You’re dropping what? Less than 1% dps by crafting a ring?

Qol>that minor dmg loss imo

[wraith wharf]

its a personal choice, unless to are dying to enrage / not timing due to DPS do what you want

[tacit crag]

1% is the difference between 99 parsing and 100 parsing baby

[olive wraith]

So is rng

Are you the world’s best warrior?

[tacit crag]

Also I'm just messing. I personally have flavor packet

Vers/mastery crafted. Trying to farm arch druid ring is hell

[wispy dock]

am i super duper trolling myself if i have reck/OF macro'd and avatar/roar macro'd?

[calm barn]

My raid team got two legos to drop this week but one went to an hpal. Tell me how to feel.

[olive wraith]

I mean you shouldn’t macro rek And of together

But you do you

Or roar/av for that matter

[wraith wharf]

nothing, its a personal drop and them getting it doesn't affect your chance at getting it at all

[astral path]

Shouldn’t be a problem as long as you can use separately if needed

[wispy dock]

even tho u insta enrage?

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[calm barn]

I’m kidding. It’s just funny we had 6 people eligible and it went to the one healer.

[wispy dock]

ya i have OF on a seperate button if need.. wasn't sure if i was hurting myself

[wraith wharf]

avatar / roar are fine to macro together IMO, just don't macro avatar and spear together

[olive wraith]

It’s optimal to roar slightly before you cast av

[astral path]

Is mirror even worth using?

[olive wraith]

But if you’re fine with a minor dps loss I’m sure you could

[astral path]

Might is just better cause lower cds right

[olive wraith]

As for rek/of

You typically want to use rek before charge

[tacit crag]

Mirror desyncs while might does not

[past pivot]

Mirror is fine if it's the best you have ATM

[warm crag]

no it doesnt

[astral path]

I see

[tacit crag]

Mine does. Its macrod and desyncs

[warm crag]

press it with every second avatar ??

[astral path]

I mean I’m Alr at 60% mast so I should be fine

Strength prob worth more for me

[warm crag]

you should probably not macro stuff to avatar considering you optimally press it halfway through your opener

[somber parcel]

anyone have a decent build for 1h fury warr? ive got a 424 warrior but the weekly m+ quest gave me a 476 1h axe from fyrakk and it seems goofy to not use it

[olive wraith]

But this dude parses 100%

[warm crag]

go arms loot spec to avoid this in the future

[patent dust]

Set arms loot, you have a bud tank weapon now

BIS

[olive wraith]

Sim a comparison with your weps equipped firdt

[grave matrix]

Yo guys, how do I sim what stats should I get on my crafted items?

[olive wraith]

But for smf I think you take out 1 vc and ss

[olive wraith]

Gear compare

[grave matrix]

thanks G

[astral path]

Worth simming my crafted gear for stat recrafts?

They’re on haste mast

[mossy fox]

Oh nononononnoon wtf is this shit

[astral path]

New discord update is wacky on mobile

I must adapt

Just like we had adapt to gushing wound meta again 😔

[grave matrix]

Wdym, I like it

[astral path]

At least bring back BFA gushing wound damage man

[clever belfry]

Fast reply

all i need

[astral path]

The only bad thing about is not being able to see online gamers easily

Also

How do I know when I’ve made it as a fury warrior

[olive wraith]

Just never leave the channel

And you won’t notice

[astral path]

True

[forest rose]

what spec who can use the leggo ended up getting the most of it after all?

[warm crag]

probably bdk

[forest rose]

ok...of the dps 😄

❤️

[mild kraken]

ight someone update wowhead to show leggo axe is bis plzzzzzz

[wraith wharf]

why

[past pivot]

You really need to be shown that? Do you need to be shown that water is wet in its natural state?

[wraith wharf]

water isnt wet, it makes things wet

[mild kraken]

Yo Axe...ur below me for sure little one

[tacit crag]

On paper, yes. But in reality it does not line up. I don't know why, but it doesn't.

During keys and stuff, mirror desyncs

[wraith wharf]

its all

https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-davidtennant-peterdavison-audio-bbc-gif-3526040

[mortal mango]

Does the second wind talent work or is worth taking on mythic smolderon? I have seen a few log running it.

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/11jjiqR.png @hearty surge +113 +0

[wooden lagoon]

for the opener.. would u not wait till u used ur third 100% crit BT before redoing avatar? raid bots has u sending it as avatar falls which is just before ur 3rd bt

[fading bane]

why does that matter?

[silk wharf]

its in the same exact moment. i assume it is sending it to not waste the proc.

[wooden lagoon]

the 100% crit blod thirs is 2.5 seconds off cd for odyns

[silk wharf]

its just listed in that order arbitrarily

[fading bane]

if u got 1 stack left

and press ava

[silk wharf]

perhaps alphabetical

[fading bane]

u get 4

[wooden lagoon]

u do ?

[covert blaze]

tier set stacks to six

[fading bane]

yes

[covert blaze]

you dont waste stacks

[wooden lagoon]

ahhh

kk

[north edge]

zzz my fucking alt

gets signet band off 4 dungeon box

when i alredy have a +leach one from heroic

meanwhile my main hasnt seen it drop

[silk wharf]

new main

[wanton mirage]

Imagine playing alt dk and pally and got the lego on 1st normal or heroic run

[modest condor]

@frosty karma

[past pivot]

It happened to someone here

[frosty karma]

lol

yep that happened to me

[balmy shore]

im scared for my alts

[prime summit]

about to cook with an ashes on tindral prog

[wraith wharf]

wait till someone gets it on LFR

[keen kindle]

fucking christ LFR tindral

can't wait for max stacks det

[remote pilot]

anyone care to help me out a bit? have a few questions about dps/stats in general and i just cant wrap my head around why my dps lacks so much.

[wraith wharf]

someon gets axe on LFR, imagine all the "you need?" whispers

[keen kindle]

LMA

[wraith wharf]

*even though you canno trade it

[past pivot]

Ask. That's what the channel is for. Assuming you read pins and guides and simemd your toon

[inner zinc]

Quick question. I have Might of the Ocean 483, Rezan 483 and Signet 463(raid finder). Which would be the better single target trinkets? Im assuming Rezan + the Signet but I just wanna be sure

[past pivot]

What do Sims say?

[wraith wharf]

what does the fox sims say

[remote pilot]

ive simmed and read up on guides, currently rocking these stats: i know my vers is a bit low, but simmed i should pull at least 144k dmg. im fluctuating between 110-120 on a good day, i feel the drop is too much and im fearing im doing something awfully wrong, i feel that im following the baseline rotations but somehow its still lacking. raiderio link: https://raider.io/characters/eu/tarren-mill/Kramil

any suggestions as to what i might be doing wrong?

[past pivot]

Stats mean nothing on their own. If you have logs, post in the log channel. Or a top gear sim

[remote pilot]

ok ill find some.

[stone stirrup]

anyone knows which part of our opener do we use the new leggo ability?

[past pivot]

466 is kinda low. Just keep getting better gear

[modest condor]

once your cooldowns run out

[remote pilot]

@past pivot still. have a mate landing on 125k steady in single target fights with 461, where i last checked and landed on 105k somehow. its a 20k dps diff with less ilvl. i must be doing it wrong? 😒

[past pivot]

You have a lot of haste, your mastery is kinda low. Not sure about those gems. Rings looks weak. Need a better OH. Need 4P t31 ASAP. Need ilvl upgrades.

[modest condor]

you mean a lot of crit

[past pivot]

I just saw a lot of haste gear. But maybe crit too. Was a quick glance

[remote pilot]

yeah im trying to get rid of the crit as its my highest stat atm, and also the least useful this season, but according to this: https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/fury/secondary_distributions/castingpatchwerk i should aim for higher vers which is why i have that on my rings

[inner zinc]

Rezan + Signet > Rezan + Might > Signet + Might is what the sims has given me

[warm crag]

please dont follow that

[past pivot]

You need better gear and T31. Your stat prio will change based on the gear but mastery/vers isn' t a bad way to go

[remote pilot]

isnt it a good guide to see ish where one should be?

[warm crag]

i doubt you're able to accurately parse the information that website is trying to tell you

[past pivot]

Only for trinkets afaik

[warm crag]

just stick to top gear and droptimizers

[remote pilot]

alright, ill keep bumping my mastery/vers, but yeah, im just a little annoyed that the gap is so big, but hopefully with better gear as you're saying the flow will manifest itself in the shape of better numbers

[remote pilot]

im not aiming for the dmg, im aiming for the marks for stats.

[past pivot]

You're missing the boat, again. Gear and T31 first. Stats to follow

[warm crag]

stat optimizations are a thing you start doing when you reach about the max ilvl you're gonna get or you wanna decide what to farm but you just use droptimizers for that lol

[modest condor]

yeah you're doing it the wrong way around

simming top gear will give you the most damage, that will automatically push you towards the "correct" stats

just because the guides and the charts say mastery vers is the best doesnt mean an item with vers necessarily beats an item with crit

[remote pilot]

alright^^ thanks for all the help

[weak ether]

is there a rotation guide for lego weapon into cd rotation?

do you use weapon before using rek or after?

[modest condor]

.

[weak ether]

thank you

[wraith wharf]

they didnt want another daught situation

[warm rain]

hey random question because i totally forgot, is cross realm mythic raiding available? If not, what did they change this season

or was it for war within stuff

?

[winter shoal]

Once HoF is full they open cross realm mythic

In war within it should be open from the start

[warm rain]

oh okay thanks

[sudden tusk]

@young swan honolulu is also kill?

[dull sierra]

Maybe

They had like 5/6 people quit

[young swan]

ye

[modest condor]

they were raiding today

[dull sierra]

They’re not dead

[young swan]

i had heard that the gm was being a donkey and they were gonna reform without him

maybe it was just bait

[sudden tusk]

tendril about to be more hated then zskarn lmao

[modest condor]

yeah and like 5 people left and they just brought in some new people and continued prog

[dull sierra]

Yea purke is a donkey

[wraith wharf]

i bet he didnt even make waffles

[warm rain]

is there clips of drama to be entertained?

lol

[dire vigil]

#fury message

Happy I didn’t take might of the ocean because I just got it anyway

So thanks for the advice everyone

[merry star]

What are the parameters of simulation for droptimizer? Is Patchwerk 5 bosses 1m30s good for m+?

[warm rain]

dungeon slice for m+

[plush flower]

we got it boys

[modest condor]

grats

[dire vigil]

Nice!!

[plush flower]

now tindral prison

[fast crest]

besides cloak and wrist, what would be the next best slot to go embellishment on

boots ?

[chrome relic]

belt

[snow edge]

To be fair that will also now be dependent on your current gear

[patent dust]

Why can't people dodge nados?

melee has to dodge all of em

[balmy shore]

tbf i have to count to three sometimes and that's too hard

[summer carbon]

would like to ask if anybody knows wats the WA tat announces you can reflect tis spell

[wraith wharf]

https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg

[summer carbon]

thanks

[mellow crow]

for smolderon yall just send everything on pull so you got it during intermission?

[warm crag]

ye

then be p far back when the knockback comes so you get orbs late w/ cds

[balmy shore]

i stand on the ring with the rune lookin thingies and let myself get pushed back then charge

[mellow crow]

perfect then just slam melee and grab em as they come in?

[left perch]

jackie secret tech

[balmy shore]

ya i just let em come in

i copied someone else idr who

share the wealth

[small osprey]

u will be grabbing them as ur playing ring3 and moving out

depends a bit on how they spawn when u land

[slim coral]

I just copied Revvez

He took them all the way out to the lava

[balmy shore]

that's so based

[slim coral]

Then just stood in melee the whole time

[small osprey]

start running when he starts the knockback animation and jump

u should land on the edge

im my experience

[slim coral]

Yeah my raid lead was upset until I explained the tech

[balmy shore]

lmao

yea i think some ppl don't know the tech for 1:30cds

[mellow crow]

i jsut need to do it tad faster lmao, was gettin spear up on first set when walkin out on last fire shit

[dry dragon]

Is brand sim bait for us or nah?

[small osprey]

spear first global tech fixes this

im pretty sure its still troll

but it feels better

[mellow crow]

ya i was doin it like 3rd there so just gonna push it and be sad

[small osprey]

spear starts feeling rly good in i3

when u have 100% uptime

[slim coral]

“Blaze why are you standing in lava wtf are you doing” me: links reeves clip

[mellow crow]

ya ima need to find me that clip

and ill be set

[balmy shore]

fan of this charge

[brittle crow]

should i spec into shockwave for fyrakk

just to be able to interrupt more

[silent burrow]

You’re a wizard

[balmy shore]

we love charge she's so quirky

[left perch]

feels like it would be more difficult to make that charge happen

than just programming a regular charge

they must’ve put their most talented dev on that one

[balmy shore]

i think the game puts smolderon already in the middle during that lolol

[small osprey]

trinket is insane and not bait

[balmy shore]

depends on ur raid but you don't need it imo

[left perch]

yea he probably “ports” there and the animation to walk back starts from his current position

but frost bolts still hit his model not the center

mage devs confirmed smarter than warrior devs

[random raptor]

ayo guys, best way to sim m+? dungeon slice ?

[small osprey]

st

[unreal cape]

dungeon slice or patchwork 5 targets for 1.5/3mins

[random raptor]

Which do you use

x)

[unreal cape]

both

[random raptor]

ok thanks bro, I'll try both

[unreal cape]

gl

[random raptor]

do you turn raid buffs off?

except battle shout I assume

[left perch]

you should pick the buffs you think you will have for what you’re simming

[random raptor]

my dungeon slice sims the same, both 247k (howling vs hissing runes)
my patchwerk is different though, howling 509k vs hissing 463k lol

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/saarMzPFaMipoQh8QsMTGS

[slim coral]

Nah

[wraith wharf]

im guessing you'd probably gain more time via piercing howl than shockwave

if you were going to take something

[random raptor]

its only a big difference because I didnt turn off buffs, ignore I am a noob

[left perch]

What does 5T 1.5 min sim

[random raptor]

with battleshout, bloodlust only
484k

486.1k with howling runes ^^

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r2z51gRjJwaxCFJmGgigwE

[left perch]

that sounds a lot more correct in terms of difference between the two runes

[random raptor]

it would depend on stats right?

ok howling runes are better for me I guess, I sim higher in ST and M+ with them

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sNVrue1osAuk7UtPbDUUSd

[winter shoal]

Maybe dumb question but if I crafted my vers bracers with the free wyrm crest, it doesn't take another spark to recraft with an aspect crest, right?

[random raptor]

no you just recraft it with an enchanted aspect when you get it

same way you can change embelishment/stats on it with missives

[winter shoal]

Okay that's what I thought but it shows a spark on the UI so I wasn't sure

[random raptor]

yeah its already on the item when you craft it, won't have to put in another!

[winter shoal]

Okay cool, thanks

[brittle crow]

bruh we just had a wipe to fyrakk and he had 800k health left

I THINK ME FORGETTING TO POT WIPED US

i bring shame to family

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[brittle crow]

can i sim which rune to use or do i just use hissing

[sudden tusk]

just use hissing

[left perch]

Lmao just 5 messages up this other guy simmed them and now you know how to

800k wipe and you forget pots, but could get 2k more dps using the right rune too

[small osprey]

i strongly doubt runes are 2k dps

if u should change ur stats gem sims will tell you that

[brittle crow]

gems and enchants always tell me mastery

iirc

[left perch]

#fury message

¯_(ツ)_/¯ probably not in every case sure

[small osprey]

2k on a 500k sim

so like 700dps in a realistic sim

[left perch]

mans just wiped an 8 minute fight by 800k

[wraith wharf]

thats like a good BB in a half

[left perch]

press more buttons or use optimal consumes

[small osprey]

700 dps over that fight length is still only 350k or smth

mountain out of a molehill etc

[brittle crow]

damn i shot up 3 spots on the dps meters just by using pots

its almost like i should be doing this every fight

[spare otter]

why does my ring not have the buff?

[modest condor]

what buff?

[spare otter]

oh im an idiot

alchemical flavor pocket

[small osprey]

you need to add the embellishment when ur crafting the ring

base ring doesnt do anything special

[spare otter]

yea im dumb

[olive wraith]

It has a socket!

[spare otter]

anyway

is it worth it tho

51k for flavor pocket

kinda crazy

[vast surge]

It is if you’re not immortal

[olive wraith]

I mean you could try farming it

Get a bunch of max level alts and park them at the feast

[chilly fractal]

looted the legendary

just thought I'd tell you all

[spare otter]

idk i just don't think i'd spend 50k gold worth on food for the rest of the season

[wanton saddle]

If you want to farm it just buy the lures and kill the Otter

[olive wraith]

??

What is this

[vast surge]

Otter tech

[olive wraith]

Here I thought it only dropped from feast

[vast surge]

Yeah me too

[olive wraith]

Give me the deets kind soul

[wanton saddle]

Sparkling Spice Pouch from the AH and you activate the fire on Forbidden Reach

[olive wraith]

What fire wth

[wanton saddle]

Mob name is Luttrok

[olive wraith]

I have no idea what these things are

Is it weekly drip

Drop

[wanton saddle]

You can chain summon the nerd every like 5 minutes

At least from that patch if you summoned it you got better loot, chance at the pocket

[olive wraith]

And it’s lootable more than once?

[wanton saddle]

Yeah, at the time it was decent money

but there was usually one or two other nerds trying to summon the mob

Was a solid thing to afk while doing other bullshit like coaching keys or whatever

For reference the pouch at least on my server are like 700g a piece

[brittle crow]

its happening

https://i.imgur.com/wiEQt2C.png the dual wield gnarlroot

we're gnarled up

[olive wraith]

I hate you

[sage shadow]

Comparing myself to a lot of other warriors, our gear seems quite different for keys, it seems my sim is going super high crit chance due to the augury trinket from Fyrakk, should I be gearing around this trinket? Or should I try some different type of sims?

[olive wraith]

What kind of sims are you doing

[sage shadow]

A mix of 1 and 5 target

[spare otter]

bro im so confused

how do you recraft sometihng to 486

[olive wraith]

I think aoe favors crit more (afaik)

[olive wraith]

Need the aspect crest

[spare otter]

yea but like what do i do?

[olive wraith]

The dream version whatever it’s called

[sudden tusk]

the crafter has to rank 5 it

[olive wraith]

Ya that too

[sage shadow]

The trinket is doing like 10-14% of my damage to be fair

[spare otter]

do i send another order in and buy all mats again or something?

[olive wraith]

Recrafting is less mats

Go to work order >recraft equipment> then supply all the mats the recraft needs

[olive wraith]

Trust the robot

[sage shadow]

I have trust issues 😉

[spare otter]

ahhh thank you sir

[sage shadow]

But yeah I should

[olive wraith]

Show me the sim then. And I’ll just say the same thing

[sage shadow]

If the sim is saying to reroll to all crit/mastery gems for a slight gain of +126 on ST but like 1.2k on aoe should I do so?

Again, due to Fyrakk trinket

[hallow sphinx]

domo arigato mr roboto

[young swan]

so true

[sudden tusk]

what kind of shoes would he wear

[hallow sphinx]

croc enjoyer

[balmy shore]

look at his lil peetsie

strong little feet for a guy with that many fire abs

[hallow sphinx]

💅

[spare otter]

yo where do you get artisan mettle?

[small osprey]

turn in any dragon shards of knowledge uve stacked up

[misty helm]

SHEEESH

[small osprey]

would be the fastest way

[spare otter]

tf is that

bro like im just trying to recraft something

why do i gotta do some bs like that

[misty helm]

what prof's do you have

[spare otter]

0

[narrow narwhal]

...

[misty helm]

really easy to get mettle on gathering profs

lmfao

thats why

most of the time the person ur askinga recraft from will use their mettle or make you pay for using their mettle

[spare otter]

yea crafters in this game

are the biggest rats i've ever encountered

[misty helm]

90% are I agree lmfao

youll find some good ones tho fs

who will ask for tips no stupid 10k+ price

[spare otter]

yea i keep getting charged like 20k

it's crazy lmfao

[misty helm]

what server are you

and what are you trying to get crafted

I can probably link you with some people tmr if you still need it

I add the good crafters

[left perch]

did yall hear about the s1 crafter cartel

apparently they had some secret discord and mass reported people undercutting them

[sullen dove]

[spare otter]

draenor but it's all cool man found someone

ty

[misty helm]

Nice man yeah im A52 anyways

lmfao

[spare otter]

yea i probably didnt pick the best time to get something crafted lol

[slow rapids]

I'm fury offspec and I only have two one handers. Should I get single-minded fury and, if yes, which talents can I drop?

[slim coral]

Tindral prog is so fun the first 200 pulls 🙂

[plush ice]

ngl, just started smoldern tongiht, and i just go into defensive stance every fire geyser thingy

i'm so bad at dodging

[wanton saddle]

Doesn't help when your flame tornado nerds try to stack on the tank debuff and fuckin die

I want to try the lava tech for orbs but my healers let me die anyway

[slim coral]

just make sure you let your RL know about it

so they don't think you are trolling

you can link a reevez pov

[wanton saddle]

My RL is a BM hunter

[mellow bloom]

[gray nexus]

yeah we just got to smoldy tonight i am so excited

[plush ice]

so do we stand at the edge and leap back in on each intermission, to try to get things to line up?

[slim coral]

It’s a fun fight tbh now that you don’t have to do the terrible macro shit

[gray nexus]

I'm surprised that the parses are using spear of bastion and not thunderous roar since it lines up with intermission while spear does not at all

[cobalt jacinth]

yes it does?

[gray nexus]

spear does not line up with smold intermission

smold int is like 130 while spear is 2 min, it's up after intermission is over

assuming you use on pull

[plush ice]

so, it does if you bait at the edge

[cobalt jacinth]

spear is 130

[gray nexus]

oh my brain might not be functioning

[cobalt jacinth]

what are you talking about lmoa

you have to do some cringe shit

[gray nexus]

long night, but it's not up during intermission

[cobalt jacinth]

it is

[plush ice]

so, you dont care about intermission you care about when youg et the buff

[hallow sphinx]

📈

[cobalt jacinth]

you walk out of melee and get knocked to the edge of the room

[plush ice]

you're going to still have teh buff as intermission ends

[cobalt jacinth]

so the orbs spawn far away

and take a long time to get to you by the boss when you pick them up

[gray nexus]

makes sense

[cobalt jacinth]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1981500600?t=0h49m18s

this is the echo 1st kill

u can see

but yeah

you get your 1.5 minutes on pull and during every damage amp

[plush ice]

so, another question, does spell reflect do anything against the tank soak

[gray nexus]

yeah I see. I just need to be hitting my buttons faster on pull, the few seconds of wait I'm doing for positioning cuts into orb dmg amp

thx for the link

It should assuming it's magic damage for the 20 dr

[slow rapids]

I'm fury offspec and I only have two one handers. Should I get single-minded fury and, if yes, which talents can I drop?

[cobalt jacinth]

ye do what revez does

reck cahrge ramp OF spear+ava bb

[gray nexus]

I usually do that, I've just been using my ramp/thirst stacks before spearing but looks like he just full sends

[cobalt jacinth]

yes its fire damage

u should refeect right before the tank soak or right before your tornado circle explodes

every time

if u want to be extra safe you can track the tank explode and IV right after it every time

and it will basically be impossible to die on that fight

even if u get hit by waves

[plush ice]

yeah, it seems spell reflect isn't quite up between the two

[gray nexus]

i personally think if you have to choose, it's better to use on tank slam but I haven't worked out any timings yet or anything

if you pair it with d stance that's pretty chunky

[cobalt jacinth]

it definitely is up every time

theyre 30s apart

[true sapphire]

I got two greater embers now I get next time for sure right

[gray nexus]

i believe

[plush ice]

yeah i'm def going into defensive stance for a few globals when the fire tornados hit

just to be super safe, since damn, thats like some real dodging

[gray nexus]

yeah i didn't get any real practice down we killed nym and went to smold with basically none of us being ready just so we could see WA for balls and such

[cobalt jacinth]

u shouldnt even be in danger of dying even if u get hit by a nado except in like the last phase

[gray nexus]

do the balls do personal damage as well as explode or is it just a raid wide thing

[cobalt jacinth]

maybe the second to last phase too

the balls just do damage to the raid

you get a small dot if u walk through them though

so try to avoid that

but its not the end of the world

especially for us

[gray nexus]

ya warr feels real tanky this tier it's nice

[fading bane]

It always is

[slim coral]

We’re Tanky but at what cost

[gray nexus]

idk i didn't feel very tanky last tier, but i was also just stepping foot into warr so maybe i just sucked

[fading bane]

You are more tanky this tier

Cus u press bt more

[sage ridge]

Enraged Regen is also better to use

[fading bane]

But u still had IV Warpaint

[slim coral]

We were Tanky last tier too

[fading bane]

Higher hp pool SR etc

[sage ridge]

It was kinda awkward last season since you wanted to hold bloodthirst

[slim coral]

With def stance alone fury is just goated

So much self healing

[gray nexus]

true, I need to use it more in pinches but i always forget to d stance up

[slim coral]

who's harder tindral or Kamen

[silent gazelle]

kamen rider for sure

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kuuga-kamen-rider-kuuga-ocean-gif-13386268

[slim coral]

have you done the kamen raid on la?

looks hard

[light jetty]

is our melee range lower than our abilites as warrior?

[cobalt jacinth]

no?

we dont have anything that modifies our range

[olive wraith]

Ww has a slight extra reach

[light jetty]

I look at my logs

and most things are pretty similar but my melee attacks

are WAY lower than others

idk how thats possible lol

[somber elk]

No dancing blades?

[light jetty]

im using dancing

[slim coral]

dancing blades is the onyl way

Titanic rage enjoyers are

[naive swallow]

wait we got helm enchants now ?https://gyazo.com/cc18c2e57a61cf101d765d439b0f5784

didnt recall prior 10.2

[slim coral]

next week

we get it

[naive swallow]

u mean the recipe itself ?

[slim coral]

Yes

and we can wear it

[clear light]

what does it do

[naive swallow]

ye same

[slim coral]

I cannot remember

[young swan]

its like 1% dam

last i checked

[dense elbow]

Quest item, no? Does sone proc dam and stuff

[clear light]

chain quest reward?

[slim coral]

it scales too doesn tit

throughout the tier

[young swan]

no idea

just does dam

[slim coral]

oh I was told it scales

[sturdy slate]

whatre people putting flavor pockets on if bis crafted is back and wrists? (back has shadowflame and wrists are allied)

[slim coral]

wasn't sure if it was true

[young swan]

i do not know

[dense elbow]

Dam is dam

[young swan]

it might

i just know its a damage proc

[slim coral]

nothing

[sturdy slate]

😢

[patent dust]

Got a heroic brand

[slim coral]

just buy food

it's really cheap

[dense elbow]

What if I die mid combat, or die in a key, value for sure then
I just gotten used to the QoL in truth

[slim coral]

well sometimes you gotta suffer

food aint gonna time you the key anywas

[subtle lagoon]

Ring

[somber elk]

how can it be thathi only got 7 this week? do i also have to clear on normal?

[slim coral]

you should be getting 10 every week

just full clear up to smolderon as far as I understand

[somber elk]

i started the week with 30, then I fullcleared hc and now im at 37-.-

[slim coral]

Must of missed a boss then not sure

the only time people got 7 was the first week

and they fixed that by mailling people the 3 missing ones

[somber elk]

well not possible, I killed every boss^^

[slim coral]

🤷‍♂️

[scarlet kraken]

i've been hearing it scales with helm ilvl, so maybe that's what you were thinking of

but idk for sure

[slim coral]

yeah we will see tuesday!

Tindral prog is so boring for melee

it's pretty much ECho all over again

[naive swallow]

any lego getter huh

[summer quail]

I had the same problem last week. Only got 7

[livid tangle]

Hey, new here sorry if this has been answered elsewhere but I can't find it, if I've OF'd outside of Reck and I don't have rage regeneration, am I delaying bloodthirst until I can rampage for a bloodbath for the 2set buff, or am I sending bloodthirsts?

[oblique trail]

If you can't get rage to rampage you just send a buffed BT

[eternal sundial]

Not pressing buttons is worse

[livid tangle]

Well I press buttons but like ww and slam, but just sending the buffed bt is better?

[livid tangle]

tyty

[somber elk]

sucks

[maiden sinew]

is fury close to arms for m+? not sure which i should be playing right now. just came back to the game.

[eternal sundial]

Both good

Play what you prefer

[upbeat blade]

unfortunately they kinda want completely opposite stats

[high hemlock]

If you kill hm fyrakk first the greater enblem include the nm one ? Didn’t have any great this week in nm after killed hm first

[subtle lagoon]

It isn't very clear, but last week I killed fyrakk on normal then heroic, and got a greater both times. But then it's best to do heroic only for the week?

[high hemlock]

Y also had both greater last week by doing nm then hm

[subtle lagoon]

I think the play will be to do normal then heroic fyrakk, for the blp tokens and loot.

[unborn canyon]

anyone else have the lego ? do you need to apply the dots before you use the active , or is that not a min max and just send on pull

[spare otter]

i only use active when i have nothing to press lol

[fading sky]

Talkin bout leggo is taunting

[spare otter]

active suuuccks

[unborn canyon]

were else can i talk about it sir lol

[spare otter]

insane damage

[fading sky]

U no speak until i have it

🤣🤣

[unborn canyon]

sadge

[fading sky]

Nah man idno

[fading sky]

St?

[spare otter]

thats in overall m+

[fading sky]

1.5% + ilvl is not terrible

Lol what

[fading sky]

Then push it more?

[spare otter]

dot is nice tho

no

its a dps loss to use active on aoe

and im not using active when i have buttons to press

seems really bad tbh

[unborn canyon]

this is from a 16 , packs didnt live long enough but ill do a few big keys tonight and see

[fading sky]

Seems nice ye

But in raid do we start with the charge into opener

[unborn canyon]

yea noticed you dont auto during the cast so you dont generate rage , so might be a use after burst window play ?

[young swan]

everytime i hear more about this lego the more i think its bad

[spare otter]

it is pretty bad tbh

[snow edge]

Dw Xan they will surely tune it

[spare otter]

just a ilvl stick

ngl

[snow edge]

[young swan]

no aa's during the channel

lmfao

[snow edge]

It's not bad, it's just that it's not great

[young swan]

not bad enough that u cant move or cast

[snow edge]

That isn't inherently bad; everyone was fine with Draught

If the power level was a bit higher

[young swan]

theres a number of things they can do to make it better

and they have done none

[snow edge]

Sure man, but there's a number of class tuning changes they should have rolled out too

Welcome to the world of warcrafts

[spare otter]

i spent 400k on this

i want a refund

[snow edge]

I'd spend 400k on the mog

It's just 400k

[spare otter]

tbf the axe

looks really good on my back

with both axes

[snow edge]

Yeh exactly, money well spent my man

[slim coral]

I've been preaching that it is bad

[spare otter]

like that is beautiful

[slim coral]

for the cost and what it should be

it's terrible

[young swan]

ive been saying its bad

for a while

[lusty canopy]

500k is temporary

drip is forever

[snow edge]

^

Big mog

Lives on

[slim coral]

for years we've had great wepaons that were better than this

imo

I would take getiku over this

[lusty canopy]

it's not only a flex that you're just luckier than them