no brand or augury
#fury
oblique trail
spare otter
imagine having augury
warm crag
no brand or augury
noob
fallow oracle
got mythic brand after my guildies got all the HC ones
warm crag
you won't believe the new turtles warrior that joined yday
atomic nymph
The box of despair, legendary but no signet brands on any runs / vaults
slender perch
FU
oblique trail
I think
fallow oracle
oblique trail
you're fine
proud crown
fallow oracle
did your sim crack 220k with lego
atomic nymph
Dw you don't know the best part
slender perch
-0.2% on trinket
slender perch
Dw you don't know the best part
Let’s see your logs
warm crag
ye your mythic vaulted rezans is beating a hc augury w/o optimized gems and shite
shocker
most people on smolderon do not have a mythic vaulted rezans lol
slender perch
Yeah I guess
spare otter
i mean would mythic vaulted rezans beat a 489 augury anyway?
narrow narwhal
The 4pc doesn't give CDR on cleaved BT crits, right?
warm crag
according to the sim he linked like 5 messages up, ye
oblique trail
The 4pc doesn't give CDR on cleaved BT crits, right?
It does if your main target doesn't get crit
But only once per cast
atomic nymph
Let’s see your logs
85.5 best perf avg in mythic, 68 med - Most kills pre-leggo but yeah, I'm not great. Pre-buff lego wasn't enough to carry me either
oblique trail
Regardless of how many crits
fallow oracle
85.5 best perf avg in mythic, 68 med - Most kills pre-leggo but yeah, I'm not gr...
did your sim crack 220k
slender perch
85.5 best perf avg in mythic, 68 med - Most kills pre-leggo but yeah, I'm not gr...
Will be good to see how it affects kills now. Hoping the buffs are chonky!!!
atomic nymph
Will be good to see how it affects kills now. Hoping the buffs are chonky!!!
Mid on ST, went from 2.2% overall to 4% overall in m+ situations (Dots)
spare otter
Can't wait to get flamed for having leggo
atomic nymph
did your sim crack 220k
atomic nymph
I mean i can send you the simc input to give you axe
"# Fyr'alath the Dreamrender (496)
main_hand=,id=206448,enchant_id=6643,bonus_id=10351/9495/1468"
spare otter
you can just do it through gear compare
slender perch
Nice!
unreal onyx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2hi41G78ZSDEy1NcJrZsSZ
Is this with the leggo hotfix already?
spare otter
wait
chrome plover
Is this with the leggo hotfix already?
yea
spare otter
can you use crafted ring with embellsih pieces?
fallow oracle
not shadowflame
unreal onyx
Flavour pocket is no embellishment
chrome plover
can have blue silken lining too
spare otter
ooooh ok im dumb
i'll make flavour pocket
my rings suck
does it always come with a socket?
chrome plover
yes
slender perch
I did it as I cannot be bothered with eating every time we die
spare otter
thats biiiiig
unreal onyx
Just revive and chill
fallow oracle
I did it as I cannot be bothered with eating every time we die
fantastic for tindral gaming
fallow oracle
waiting for ranged to play dispels correctly simulator
plain marsh
Hey guys, i am new here and also starting out with fury. Got the onehand axe from Fyrakk (Gholak, the Final Conglagration) from my Weekly-Q. I am wondering is this somehow even good as this is only 1h?
unreal onyx
Set lootspec to arms
unreal onyx
To not get 1H anymore
plain marsh
Why didnt i think about that....
chrome plover
if you have a really bad off hand, it can be a good replacement
unreal onyx
If you have cursed 2H, it might be better with smf
fallow oracle
i think it can be better than a shit 2h offhand without SMF
unreal onyx
But if your 2 2H are roughly same ilvl those are better
chrome plover
i think it can be better than a shit 2h offhand without SMF
yeah it definitely can be
ive seen the sims 🤓
thin steeple
I sim at 196k and i dont even come clost to that ever
modest condor
i finally got an enhance shaman in my raid this week so i can start competing on sims too 
because simdps is the real epeen contest
spare otter
damn you got so many 489 slots
restive peak
Ye I was mad patient with my aspects lol
Can catalyze a myth track helm and upgrade tues, + probably ring since I have a 486 in bag so then I can free upgrade all rings
modest condor
the secret to saving up aspect crests is not looting any mythic gear
my only mythic track items are a heroic augury and 2 vault m+ items
restive peak
Hahaha
oblique trail
I ripped a 486 item first week, but only have 2 upgrades I can do atm with Aspects
it's kinda silly
how fast gearing is
restive peak
Leggo is still 9500, can almost hit 230?! Let's go blizz gimme that shit?!
indigo quarry
3 weeks instead of 2
modest condor
fury rising on the sim rankings thanks to the lego buff
oblique trail
Fury meta moment??
modest condor
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
thorn venture
World 6th inc??
modest condor
pog
peak rune
Let’s go Oce boys
modest condor
feels like everybody just gave up after the first 3 finished or something
silent burrow
thorn venture
feels like everybody just gave up after the first 3 finished or something
Unironically everyone is being brick walled by Tindral on reclears
we just extended
modest condor
ah fair lol
thorn venture
There's been like 1 rekill this week
modest condor
i heard that the changes to feathers actually made it worse
lost bison
yea we also decided to extend yesterday
fuck reclearing that boss
saw FSY stuck on it for 4h or so last night 
warm crag
i think the hexagon change made it better but its still giga cringer
lost bison
its also just
very few guilds have had a decent experience progressing that boss
going back there when u were 500+ pulls deep on ur first kill is gonna suck ass even with the nerfs/changes (which were pretty minor)
warm crag
seed nerf for p2 was p nice tbf
thorn venture
Like we killed that in 300~ pulls and there was zero chance we were going to risk reclearing unless that boss got nerfed by like 80%
it's so easy to just throw a night or 2 on it
lost bison
yeah same
dont see the point in getting slightly more gear anyway
either we kill this week or we get turbocarried by head enchant on wednesday
silent burrow
I wonder how much raid dps the helm enchant gonna be
thorn venture
dont see the point in getting slightly more gear anyway
Yeah it's beyond minor at this point
silent burrow
I have a hard time thinking that they'll nerf and get helm enchant at same time
thorn venture
helm is like 5-6k dps for melee
little less for ranged
so it's a decent little bit across the raid
lost bison
way more than enough to give that extra push to kill the boss if u wiped on low hp% this reset
lavish pond
guys , quick quenstion, should i add a 2nd embellishment on a ring or wrists? ( I have already 1 on the vibrant wintercloth shawl )
spiral ermine
thorn venture
either we kill this week or we get turbocarried by head enchant on wednesday
You boys should be fine for a kill this week, it feels like a 200-250 pull boss now
Went went like 24% on our first P3 and got that 14% after 4~
the blaze nerf made that phase so much easier
lavish pond
i mean, sim the theoritically item that im thinking to get? i dont know how to do that cD
lost bison
yeah it felt pretty chill with vantus and everything
silent burrow
i mean, sim the theoritically item that im thinking to get? i dont know how to d...
gear compare
lost bison
we saw p3 twice last night but seeds died to first blazes 
didnt prepare p3 whatsoever so it was fine
thorn venture
Love that
we somehow got to 3rd corrupted seed spawns first go
Def felt very yolo
lost bison
yea definitely felt like very little happens in p3
at least early on
any pull like that could easily be 10-20% instead of 40smth%
thorn venture
Legit it's just put your best players on early seeds and pray it dies asap
plucky junco
is it worth crafting a weapon with 3 sparks ?
chrome plover
didnt prepare p3 whatsoever so it was fine
first night tonight and we've been told to only look at the first minute of the fight
it's gonna be a long one
lost bison
unfortunately not raiding extra this friday or saturday though, PoE and irl work enjoyers
so hopefully killing near end of reset
thorn venture
I'm a little worried about us killing it tomorrow tbh, we only have a 3 hour raid night
People need to leave early so not a ton of time to try wrap it up
lost bison
oof
yeah last few % might be a bit rough without moving stuff around to optimize or having that one banger pull
lost bison
yup
also most guilds on fyrakk atm seem to have a billion pulls or stuck on tindral reclear
so world rank-wise you'll be fine killing on sunday or whenever ur next raid is after that
thorn venture
We'll kill Saturday for sure I think but we might drop a few ranks
Skyline, Mate or FSY could just get it if they can finish Tindral quick
lost bison
yeah 100%
don't know if they've struggled with anything specific on fyrakk so far but with extra craft/ilvl and blaze nerf it should be easy for them (once they get there )
primal bane
I know some people have gotten the leggo already
Have yall noticed the on use is a dps loss in keys
spare otter
im baffled where you're supposed to fit in the on use tbh
primal bane
The 3 sec while that proc is going off does so little damage that it’s not worth even using
Not only does it clear all your dots but you can do more dmg and get CDR for OF instead of channeling
I took the on use off my bars
primal bane
Even then
chrome plover
it definitely seems worth using outside of/before cds
primal bane
I rather chance a BT crit for CDR
chrome plover
especially now that it's hasted/crits
spare otter
but the damage stacks
primal bane
The risk reward isn’t good
spare otter
so you may as well use it outside of cds
tidal frost
ive got the leggo myself and i need to do more testing but the on use does feel like a dps loss
primal bane
I try to use it when I start getting Into those rare dead globals
But even then 3 sec is too long and that root sucks
chrome plover
it is
primal bane
Is it?
I’ll have to test that
At the end of the day on use especially in aoe just doesn’t seem worth
Max increased in dmg is 50%
I rather keep the dot on all targets and do my cleave
chrome plover
yes it got hotfixed last night
modest condor
it isnt
spare otter
thats just the dot
tidal frost
yeah still goes for the full 3 secs
chrome plover
wait the dot
spare otter
not the on use
spare otter
i wouldnt be surprised if the play is to not use the on use tbh
primal bane
Remember the on use clears the dots you have out
silent gazelle
Most mid legendary of all time
chrome plover
why wouldnt they make the on use hasted wtf
spare otter
Remember the on use clears the dots you have out
ig use it as an execute when the boss is low?
idek anymore lol
this seems dogshit
primal bane
Yea once more people get it maybe the buff it again
But right now Lego feels like a ilv weapon
silent burrow
What's the name of the weakaura that says the order of the rings on smolderon?
oblique trail
Northern Sky tells you
silent gazelle
If it was just a boring stat proc it'd be better lol
oblique trail
Idk of any other
silent burrow
Isn't the northern sky one the one that has the diagram you gotta look at?
primal bane
Now if they were to remove the split dmg and make it work as the tool too said it would be something
warm crag
What's the name of the weakaura that says the order of the rings on smolderon?
do u need it as melee or
oblique trail
Yeah that's Northern Sky
silent burrow
I mean, I been doing it without, but it would be nice to just have it tell me I think
oblique trail
Is how it looks
Left column is the current one, red being where it's not safe
Right column is next cycle
warm crag
i mean theres 2 unique patterns for melee where its just alternating 1st and 2nd ring and in one of the patterns you gotta gate out lol
silent burrow
The one I'm talking about just has the numbers on there and says what ring is safe aloud
chrome plover
im ngl both weakauras just confused me and i memorised the movement within 10 pulls
but i think the big pack that came out on launch has the numbers
silent burrow
I'm ngl we haven't seen them all so idk what to expect in the last one
chrome plover
the causese one
warm crag
I'm ngl we haven't seen them all so idk what to expect in the last one
its literally the first intermission again
eternal sundial
when will my item drop 
oblique trail
Feels like a dps loss to use
Now this is incredibly jank and there are probably better ways to do it, but I tried to see what it'd be like with and without using the weapon, and it seems to be a roughly 1.3%~ (at my ilvl) drop to just ignore the on-use https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/58fChD2YDefhc9rWcpFBg8
I'm such a brainlet when it comes to advanced sims half the time so
xd
oblique trail
Normally it does it before CDs on pull and otherwise on CD
primal bane
so you would hold your cds for the on use at pull
could be okay on vol but not smold
tardy lark
youd charge, use the axe, then pop cds
primal bane
shit will not line up for the dmg phase
tardy lark
you just use on pull and then on second dmg amp
low folio
so in the pinned comments about the leggo axe. was those percentages in damage increase based on a crit and hasted effect or before it was hotfix
primal bane
but dmg amp is on the orbs which you want to get late anyways
fallow oracle
i forget which damage amp is the in out in out in melee but u could use there
fallow oracle
but dmg amp is on the orbs which you want to get late anyways
theres time between orbs and cds still even if u get at like 1:18
oblique trail
if you are silly
you have time to use it as a ring explodes, let it channel, then move before the ring you're in explodes
primal bane
the risk reward is a bit 1 sided i feel
naive swallow
does the lesser ember still drops from the first few bosses if i kill the last boss on hc ?
oblique trail
yes
primal bane
i just need better gamers witht he weap my small brain cant handle this
naive swallow
i guess if i do it that way the %chances from the lesser would just be delayed for the next week right
oblique trail
I assume so
naive swallow
god i been doing it this way for the 3rd reset , feels dumb now but couldnt help
anyways wish me lucc
pale sable
Yo I have mirror and gore-crusted trinkets (crit procc) both mythic track in my vault. I wear signet brand (lfr) and rezans (normal). Any advise what to pick? I’ve simed and it says the crit procc trinket is best choice but iirc mirror is also good?
primal bane
mirror sucks to use but sims great for me
for M+ i would get butcher block
prob butchers block over mirror
opal tinsel
Tried researching but I couldn't find answers. Can the legendary channel be cancelled by the player? And despite the changes, is it true that the channel is not sped up by haste? Like bladestorm was for Fury in Shadowlands.
plush ice
good ole' drought of souls. I keep a smattering of trinkets in my bank for nostalga purposes, and I still have Convergence of Fate/Drought of Souls in thhere
can't wait to channel and die again like I did in legion hehe
opal tinsel
As someone who pushes R1 m+ every season on my war, I can state that the channel is not playable without the Fyrakk tank trinket then... Standing still in melee for 3 seconds... get outa here.
spare otter
apparently its a dps loss to channel in aoe anyway
restive peak
Good leggo is good smile
modest condor
im sure there's a point in aoe where you could use it, but just "send it off cooldown outside of reck/ava" is a dps loss, probably better to save it for prio mobs in m+
weak forge
target capped charge even though it doesn’t say in tooltip 
proper veldt
can someone explain to me what do i do with SD procs if i am already rage capped?
spare otter
im sure there's a point in aoe where you could use it, but just "send it off coo...
i mean when do we use it on st? Just outside of reck/ava?
modest condor
yeah
weak forge
is it affected by enrage? no right
spare otter
does the channel generate rage?
glad plover
I mean we can use OF, and before avatar we can use Ability of legendary? Not sure probably still dps loss tho.
opal tinsel
is it affected by enrage? no right
no. nothing is ever affected by enrage, avatar or any other dmg amps that warrior has. thanks to draught of souls
spare otter
trying to use it on opener just seems so scuffed
glad plover
trying to use it on opener just seems so scuffed
Would not be a first time this expansion we have scuffed opener, remember season 1 😄
spare otter
didnt play war in s1
opal tinsel
Would not be a first time this expansion we have scuffed opener, remember season...
dont need to go back. mythic tindral is charge, bloodthirst (hopefully enrage proc), charge, odyns fury (regardless of enrage proc).
feels dirty every time
faint temple
hi guys, is the legendary 496 or 500?
tidal heron
Any knowledge of second boss in Thrones (Ulthok) being bugged for Cataclysmic Signet trinket?
Or, is this just totally bad luck for stacks?
mossy fox
probably started boss with 0 stacks, unforch
mossy fox
brand needs time to ramp
chrome plover
rezans went hard though 
fallen terrace
can i overcap mastery with my fury ? or can someone tell me what should i do better with my char ? cause my stats are a bit fucked i guess
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b2HiA27iifrGSTe3sgYvZA
inner zinc
Throne is prob the worst instance for signet ngl
mossy fox
its why it can do like 7-10% of your dmg if you have 15 stacks at the start
tidal heron
It's a boss I can't ... pull-snipe cause the door needs to open and the boss needs to start 😛
steel shard
signet is super bis on spiteful week
inner zinc
In throne anytime you use the elevator you drop stack, and you almost always drop stacks between boss 3 and 4
tidal heron
it's not ideal in thrones no, but, it did a respectable 6k dps overall, and I'm missing alternative trinkets sadly (which is why I'm in thrones haha)
noble hawk
Does anyone know if the 0 Vers is a visual bug or what on sims?
inner zinc
But it is fitting that a fire trinket is dampened in the water dungeon
noble hawk
I assumed so, but figured I'd ask. Thanks
fallen terrace
can someone help me a bit with the stats ? i have
30% crit
32% Haste
58% mastery
10% vers
i think i have a bit less vers, but everything i sim to increase vers, will overall decrease my dmg
primal bane
on another note
if the on use charge kills the mob you dont get the slashes and the cd is used
real bay
what build is the best for this week in m+?
primal bane
DB
low folio
its really disappointing if the legendary on use effect is actually just a dps loss in dungeons until you reach a single target mob/boss
sterile stratus
Well they just hot fixed the dot to have crit and haste scaling so it's likely much better now.
steel copper
How does the bleed increase from troar work? Do you put bleeds up first then roar or it doesn't matter, if the debuff is on there and you pop OF the bleed gets the bonus DMG? I can't find anything mentioning how the interaction works
modest condor
the bleed damage increase is always active
low folio
silm was your statement on the on use effect applying for the hotfix to the legendary?
steel copper
Even without the debuff on the mob, it's a passive increase? Do I understand this correctly?
modest condor
Even without the debuff on the mob, it's a passive increase? Do I understand thi...
yes
zenith jackal
🍰
inner zinc
Btw is lfr fyrakk out yet?
sinful spoke
no
guys do we know if the head enchant unlock is account wide or just per character i dont wanna do this shit on my alts every week ngl
plush flower
for the DB build you just switch from TR to DB and that's it?
tidal frost
Well they just hot fixed the dot to have crit and haste scaling so it's likely m...
thats was just for the dot not the on use
primal bane
for the DB build you just switch from TR to DB and that's it?
yes
plush flower
gotcha
modest condor
i dont
robust widget
even in fort
do you just go in with fullsend CDs like for ST fights? as in reck charge rampage ww OF?
primal bane
do you just go in with fullsend CDs like for ST fights? as in reck charge rampag...
yea since you want the enrage before cds
where is with TR you got enraged from OF
robust widget
ye im a TR baby that changed to DB this week and my muslce memory is like full on pepega
modest condor
i remember trying db for a bit back in s1 when we still played it and i just couldnt
uneven plaza
TR Enjoyers rise up.
modest condor
but now im used to it
stuck bison
DB is better option. I dont think %10 OF will do more impact on keys then DB
robust widget
DB feels giga nice on bosses
tropic dove
is it even possible to get the legendary twice?
balmy shore
buT it'S nOt UniQUE equipped!!!!!!!
tropic dove
thats the point
sinful spoke
so technically
what if the increase the ilvl for fated season
legendary + asskandy :stonk
blissful parcel
Highly doubtful it’s planned in game that you can multiple when the only class who would benefit from that is warrior
warm crag
crazy prediction
chrome plover
it doesnt say unique equipped because you can only ever get one so it doesnt need to
uneven plaza
Highly doubtful it’s planned in game that you can multiple when the only class w...
imagine bro
Warrior BiS
tropic dove
well there is no point in the game that says you can get it only once+
chrome plover
heavily implied by every other legendary/quest reward
warm crag
alright get back to us when you have two then
tidal heron
I mean, majority in the game will get it ... never 😄
modest condor
just get the personal loot one and then win the group loot one from mythic
tropic dove
lel
sinful spoke
anyone hbave a Weakaura to track the amount of stacks i have left of the tier set? i know its not needed i just like seeing how many stacks i have left and looking top right and finding it inbetween 500 other buffs is kinda annoying]
uneven plaza
anyone hbave a Weakaura to track the amount of stacks i have left of the tier se...
By Macro you mean WA?
sinful spoke
yeah WA sorry
warm crag
this seems fine no
chrome plover
sinful spoke
i am a warrior bold of u to assume i can count
chrome plover
we are warriors after all
silent burrow
Bold of you to assume I can count
golden hare
just count to one three times
warm crag
hi ergaw
golden hare
hiii
chrome plover
erga with the top tier strats as always
silent burrow
Oh that's math
sinful spoke
this seems fine no
ty this is nice since i have ultrawide monnitor everything is super tiny and scaling up tthe ui kinda fucks with it
jovial coral
just count to one three times
Your intellect is just frightening
golden hare
please don't say that if santa sees i am scaring people i might be put on the naughty list and i don't want that
jovial coral
Uuuh you called me an idiot once so you're already on the naughty list
warm crag
i have already clipped and shipped this
golden hare
yippee!!
tidal heron
Maybe a dumb question, but, why would you even want to track the three stacks?
We're almost alwayse doing Ramp > BB > Ramp > BB
And if we can't do that, prio says we do BT anyway before other stuff (Slam)
Or, am I missing something, and is tracking the three stacks a must 🤔
noble frost
Hey there
Trying to kill tindral but my dps seems to be rather dogshit due to uptime and all
What should i do as a rotation to deal more damage during root timing
warm crag
is this hc or mythic
elfin vortex
is this dps on a 22 wm any good?
spare otter
Maybe a dumb question, but, why would you even want to track the three stacks?
W...
qol
sometimes don't have enough rage for rampage and maybe you lost count and used BT to get rage in turn consuming tier piece affect
warm crag
Keep both Avatar and OF for root on pull?
unsure what ppl do to optimize heroic, you can maybe look at top logs on lorrgs io but ppl might be playing a ridiculous paddy build that no real humanoid would play if you're prog oriented
warm crag
is this dps on a 22 wm any good?
if you timed it then yeah its fine
elfin vortex
if you timed it then yeah its fine
we +2 it
warm crag
ye idk if you want your ego stroked you did fine you're not a dh so you won't beat him
elfin vortex
ye idk if you want your ego stroked you did fine you're not a dh so you won't be...
no i want to know if the dmg is good because DH did so much more
noble frost
Causewhenever i pub
There is some fury doing 250k dps
They seem to be keeping OF on root (2 roots 8m from purely OF) and still seem to be doing good single target damage
noble frost
Im wondering what their rotations are
elfin vortex
i know they are crazy but i dont know how good we are compare to them
warm crag
if you timed the key you did fine, you will never do as much damage as dhs rn
tidal heron
and if you do, that DH needs to reroll
oblique trail
If they're semi competent they'll always beat you
elfin vortex
if you timed the key you did fine, you will never do as much damage as dhs rn
yea i know , i was like if he did 260 should i be doing 220?
warm crag
you're asking questions no one can answer
elfin vortex
you're asking questions no one can answer
okey my bad
warm crag
if you played your cc and util well and did good boss damage you did perfectly fine
elfin vortex
👍
tidal heron
and since it's WM, if you didn't spell reflect the poison back onto the boss and give all melee camp the shit, you did well 🤣
warm crag
real men reflect the tank cast
tidal heron
I'm a mouse, I don't have taunt on my bar
but... I should, if only for that boss padding
warm crag
please bind taunt
tidal heron
I will! I'll try to be less mouse, and more man!
meager void
real men reflect the tank cast
you taunt during cast or right before with the timer?
warm crag
i think it needs to be before but ive done that twice and never bothered again
meager void
Ive got a friend to scare tonight
warm crag
theres also some leap out taunt tech so you don't get meleed since he cant melee during the cast but idc enough to learn that for my weekly 20s
meager void
yeah, it wont make or break WM but an unsuspecting tank will squirm
warm crag
i dont think they'll care
chrome plover
they will probably let you die to melee's if they are "unsuspecting"
then naturally get aggro back when you die and have no idea why you died
warm crag
if you time it right they'll just taunt back during the cast and you won't take any damage
glad plover
As somebody who plays mostly PUGs, you cant really do that with tank 😄
silent burrow
We already know what's going to happen
you will taunt it and they won't know that they don't have it anymore
and then they never taunt back
and you go goodnight
halcyon vale
is this dps on a 22 wm any good?
Interrupt more
eternal sundial
tank threat seems fucked
meager void
I trust my neighborhood tank to taunt back (but will do it with leap tech jic kek)
eternal sundial
been pugging a bunch of brhs and more often than not i will bt the protector during his cast
get threat -> tank taunts
i bb and get threat back
💀
oblique trail
been pugging a bunch of brhs and more often than not i will bt the protector dur...
I've carefully studied a lot of tanks in pugs
And I've come to the conclusion that a lot of tanks are fucking horrible at pulling mobs
Like they wait 5 seconds to start doing damage
chrome plover
the worst is when they los that one pack that jumps down in brh
eternal sundial
thats where no fm helps
chrome plover
and the mobs run round the pillar, tank doesnt press anything, and healer gets clapped
eternal sundial
the worst is when they los that one pack that jumps down in brh
yea i breathe and all nameplates are red
spare otter
i had a 3k dh tank not attack anything in first pull of throne for like 10 secs
we all wiped lol
chrome plover
also tanks doing the fire so much in waycrest
i tanked my first key of the season last week
and just didnt take him in the fire
and it was fine?
eternal sundial
tanking ur own keys is okay if u know ur dps arent apes
meager void
I mean, I'm surprised at the ammount of tanks that dont seem to have aggro coloring on their nameplates
one enraged OF and I'll probably get a 1-2 little mobs on me regularly
silent burrow
I mean, I'm surprised at the ammount of tanks that dont seem to have aggro color...
This is my only experience with taunt reflecting with pugs
chrome plover
tanking ur own keys is okay if u know ur dps arent apes
yeah was premade with 2 dps + healer and cba waiting for a tank
silent burrow
They literally never take it back, even after I've told them I'm going to do it
OR
they immediately taunt in 1ms
eternal sundial
i should prot more
silent burrow
and miss the reflect lol
eternal sundial
yeah was premade with 2 dps + healer and cba waiting for a tank
without guildies cba 
mossy fox
and just didnt take him in the fire
until higher keys you can usually just never reset stacks or maybe reset 1 time
subtle lagoon
Still no god damn weapon
warm crag
noob just loot it
silent burrow
Yeah i would just loot it personally
eternal sundial
im at 30 brh for chest 
gleaming siren
If you dont loot weapon in your first run do you even play
eternal sundial
i will complain so i get fyrakk omnitoken so im free
subtle lagoon
Think I'm 30 tott
warm crag
schmidi (powerful brown man)
eternal sundial
If you dont loot weapon in your first run do you even play
FR
spare otter
bro what profession is a scribe?
eternal sundial
insta weapon looted
spare otter
im so baffled
gleaming siren
schmidi (powerful brown man)
so powerful I became purple
warm crag
or pink
gleaming siren
But you should see how powerful I was when I was brown in Legion
still swift
omg schmidi big fan
gleaming siren
omg Nina
silent burrow
pink man fun even if not strongest man
gleaming siren
bigger fan
still swift
biggest fan
warm crag
biggerest fan !!
warm crag
omg spongie
dps or tank my key immediately
elfin vortex
Interrupt more
stun
warm crag
NOW!
warm crag
you will dps this +28 freehold
oblique trail
but push week was last week!!!!
astral path
I thought might was good
warm crag
ye it is
chrome plover
bro what profession is a scribe?
inscription
oblique trail
It sims worse than Mirror
astral path
But mirror keeps parsing over it
oblique trail
But in practice it's usually better
astral path
Hmmm
oblique trail
It's better since it's 100% consistent, always gives the right stats and is always active when you have cooldowns
Compared to Mirror which can fluctuate depending on your enchant procs, and can desync
naive swallow
wait i thought they changed how it looks https://gyazo.com/2dc4f302c66ec17dd3eaccb3ffec89d6
meager void
had 98.44% cata signet uptime in EB21 yesterday. My tank was :chefkiss:
oblique trail
wait i thought they changed how it looks https://gyazo.com/2dc4f302c66ec17dd3eac...
in 10.2.5
still swift
if you have 2 stats that r close and u got a proc for anything (like wafting for haste or similar) then it can change
velvet crypt
The hotfix to legendary shouldn't make a big difference right?
silent burrow
no
meager void
btw, in M Volocross do any of you have troubles with dropping spear just as he drops red puddles?
silent burrow
I roar it tbh
modest condor
no because i dont play spear /dab
silent burrow
it ain't a dps check anymore so cba
meager void
dropping my 1.5min on CD always got me in that situation and holding CDs gave me piss parse.
I was about to do that and held myself because it did take 4ish mins getting it down
whereas some high end teams are doing it in 3ish
eternal sundial
btw, in M Volocross do any of you have troubles with dropping spear just as he d...
ye he does slam a sec after u spear so u gotta hold if ur killtime allows
if u know ur gonna go below 5 mins roar and send IMO
meager void
if u know ur gonna go below 5 mins roar and send IMO
thx, will try next week ❤️
eternal sundial
like we first killed at 4:40 but if u delay for full spear - which i did
u lose avatar cast
so i felt very dumb
meager void
exactly, yeah
grim ingot
Someone mentioned earlier that on Smold u send all ur cd at once rather than stagger them so they come back for intermission, that makes sense and is great but ive been sending all cds at once all the time on most bosses, is that wrong? As in reck, ava+roar with OF after
meager void
its not min-max, no
eternal sundial
Someone mentioned earlier that on Smold u send all ur cd at once rather than sta...
reck charge ramp ava spear of ye
grim ingot
so when people say stagger they just mean not all in 2 gcds?
meager void
Reck, Charge, Ramp (for enrage), OF --> do prio and wait till Ava from OF drops <--, Ava/Spear, continue
grim ingot
ohhh ok, that is more of a stagger i see
meager void
ohhh ok, that is more of a stagger i see
I track Avatar in my UI and drop Ava/Spear when Ava from OF is about to expire. I think the Ava from OF is 3 or maybe 4 secs.
grim ingot
I track Avatar in my UI and drop Ava/Spear when Ava from OF is about to expire. ...
Thanks for the info, now i just need to remember that next time i raid log 
errant pond
what are the 3 things people crafted
meager gyro
should I even try it on my lil warrior
warm crag
ye probs doable
meager gyro
well maybe for you, but I have done maybe 12 m+ runs so far this season b/c I was focusing on raid
chrome plover
what are the 3 things people crafted
vers wrists, shadowflame cloak, ring
warm crag
well maybe for you, but I have done maybe 12 m+ runs so far this season b/c I wa...
ok but waycrest is piss and your gear is fine
unreal onyx
should I even try it on my lil warrior <:keks:936231610850897992>
elite gamer mog
not chaning anything
chrome plover
reck+of > ramp > spear > bb > ramp > bb+ava
no u wanna be enraged for of
errant pond
vers wrists, shadowflame cloak, ring
What stats on the ring?
unreal onyx
im especially liking the non-socketed ring
naive swallow
ok
chrome plover
What stats on the ring?
i crafted vers/mast on ring and cloak
meager gyro
elite gamer mog
donate to my EU account plox
naive swallow
oh forgot coz 2used to enrage of
forest owl
is there some strategy on gnarlroot normal that creates logs like this?
weak tartan
Which reageant make cr craft guranteed?
stuck bison
Does ring wort to 60 aspect tho ? I could max 1 extra heroic track item
Isnt it upgrading tier items head piec etc. > ring craft
fading bane
if you never use aspects on crafted gear you will eventually run out of items to upgrade with aspects
noble elm
is there some strategy on gnarlroot normal that creates logs like this?
Have a raid full of s tier dps so the boss dies in 90 seconds
fading bane
so you can have a week where you spend 60/90 to upgrade crafted
and the last 30 u cant use
forest owl
Have a raid full of s tier dps so the boss dies in 90 seconds
nah fight lasted 2:25
fading bane
its a normal log who gives a fuck tho
chrome plover
they also did 1.25b damage to gnarlroot when he has WAY less hp than that
noble elm
nah fight lasted 2:25
Ok my point still stands
chrome plover
some kind of abuse going on
forest owl
i was just asking a question jesus
meager gyro
Smashenater-twistingnether
EU players feel free to donate some spare gold
(shit hope I don't get banned for panhandling
chrome plover
Ok my point still stands
no it doesnt
fading bane
its also old ig cus it has 450 ppl going rank 1
chrome plover
it's everyone doing 700k dps it's just bugged as hell
stuck bison
so you can have a week where you spend 60/90 to upgrade crafted
Ahh i see. Thanks for answer
fading bane
u dont even show the dps
quick hull
What kind of ST sims are people seeing in the 480+ ilvl range? I’m missing the fancy trinks like augury signet but I’m topping out about 200k without wf in raidbots
noble elm
no it doesnt
You don’t think high parses are generally achieved in a setting where everyone is outputting a high level of dps which reduces the fight time substantially?
forest owl
its there on wclogs to see if u want to see
noble elm
I mean yea that is prob a janky report
forest owl
cant ask a simple question without someone getting all uppity jesuis
subtle lagoon
get used to it kek
fading bane
you didnt even link a proper reference
quick hull
Anything in the 98-100 parse range depending on how many logs are usually done in a way to get that ridiculous parse
fading bane
had to speculate
forest owl
you're automatic response was 'who cares' i asked a simple question
chrome plover
You don’t think high parses are generally achieved in a setting where everyone i...
no, I think that in this case in particular "Have a raid full of s tier dps so the boss dies in 90 seconds" is not true
forest owl
forget it just warrior discord being usual
chrome plover
which is the case that was being asked about
fading bane
ask dumb questions, get dumb answers
noble elm
Technically correct is the best correct
fading bane
true
fading bane
just move the servers
left perch
wait is stats guy EU logger but not EU liver?
fading bane
hahaha what is this log actually
forest owl
who cares, its only normal.
forest owl
im only giving what i get from people from now on.
left perch
someone who cares’d you so you waited to throw it back at them
your therapist says that’s real mature
forest owl
what the fuck is with this discord today jesus christ
fading bane
you link a screenshot that looks like ppl cheesing a normal first boss for parses. so ofc no one cares about why or how, cus no one cares about cheesing normal bosses fo parse
forest owl
so i get sarcastic bullshit replies to a question...i do the same and im the one that gets it? logic
fading bane
its like beating a 10 year old in an arm wrestle
forest owl
but yet here you are linking the same normal logs
fading bane
you also didnt link a proper image whatsoever, so we couldnt tell what was happening, its obvisouly a bugged log cus you cant do 700k
yes, its funny
cus those guys killed the boss like 20 times to parse on it
which is cringe and funny
gilded pawn
Honestly
How do the Chinese have time for this
Get good at some other game that gets you bitches
gilded pawn
Wow gets you the least bitches of any game
fading bane
left perch
valium
fading bane
whats ur hidden tech?
lofty osprey
No fans please
left perch
I will be your only fan
dire badge
excuse me
lofty osprey
Thanksu
ember apex
family guy?
fading bane
isnt that the guy from fortnite?
chrome plover
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aWL2JC3k9fRF8m6h#fight=229&type=summary
why does it only say 3 kills on their profile
but on this log it has like 30
also this is the same kill logged 3 times
summer plover
Are people already dropping some leggos or is the chance this week still ass?
chrome plover
can u just edit a log file or what
chrome plover
Are people already dropping some leggos or is the chance this week still ass?
seen more this week than last week
left perch
can u just edit a log file or what
I have yea
fading bane
ye u can edit/alter logs
left perch
I recorded logs and it said I didn’t have advanced turned on
left perch
so I changed that 0 to a 1 and it uploaded fine
tardy lark
idk how they get past the checksum when altering logs, but ya know 🤷♀️
modest condor
i remember playing hardcore in a game on steam once and dying so i went into my character file and changed deaths from 1 to 0 and i could play again
chrome plover
gnarlroot simply doesnt have 1.25 billion health on normal
tardy lark
i remember playing hardcore in a game on steam once and dying so i went into my ...
soft hardcore is pretty based
chrome plover
so idk how their log says he took that much damage without some editing
tardy lark
like hardocre in classic wow before it was enforced on a game level
modest condor
soft hardcore is pretty based
i hate hardcore but it had an achievement
tardy lark
same, im not gonna spend 20 hours playing a d4 char for it to rip in a lagspike
chrome plover
same, im not gonna spend 20 hours playing a d4 char for it to rip in a lagspike
that's just part of the hardcore mindset bro, you wouldnt get it
left perch
wtf cheater cheater
yea felt amazing hacking the system until it showed as gray parse again.
chrome plover
losing 500 hours because of a server issue is not for the faint hearted
chrome plover
(yeah me neither i was joking)
fading bane
you wouldnt get it
fading bane
tall surge
Is anyone running a higher crit buile instead of vers ?
molten relic
gnarlroot simply doesnt have 1.25 billion health on normal
U seen the volocross one where the mage has 500k dps
And half of it is to critters or some shit
chrome plover
hmmm
fading sky
warm crag
but they had like 500k hp
they still do
plush flower
Do you guys like using ST trinkets on tyrannical weeks or no?
left perch
Almost at the best scene
👁🗨 im only on like 4 or 5 iirc
mossy fox
𒉏
left perch
now i am curios
oblique trail
𒉏
heavy sparrow
What the hell is this?
tepid vine
who let this man cook
heavy sparrow
It's a "off meta" build because i won't allow myself to be dictated by a bunch of ELITIST!
shell jackal
fading bane
heavy sparrow
I honestly don't think i ever saw something quite as bad, it's almost like this build was made specifically to be the worst
modest condor
but they had like 500k hp
they also slap the healer
we were setting up the first pull and our tank pulled one of the critters with his prepot and it aggrod on the healer
healer was like wtf am i dying to
near gust
guys anyone here had issue with mount? i looted decently rare one, flew it but now its gone
restive peak
@mossy fox hows tindral goin?
mossy fox
uhh dunno we get to the part where i can send cds most of the time
warm crag
𒉏
mossy fox
this was before the nerfs
restive peak
xD same
heavy sparrow
60k dps
chilly fractal
guys anyone here had issue with mount? i looted decently rare one, flew it but n...
Which mount? Sometimes mounts disappear from the UI but you can still /cast name to mount it… I think /cast works
heavy sparrow
470 ilvl
chilly fractal
Huh
ember apex
did u learn it from ur bags?
near gust
yep
near gust
flew it in valdrakken
ember apex
if u search sly - it's there but greyed out?
craggy moss
vers mastery ring craft good to play arms and fury`?
ember apex
you can sim both
but its going to be hard to find something that sims the best for both
vers/mast gonna be really good for fury
craggy moss
maybe haste mast for both?
ember apex
you need to sim
the ring is gonna be better for one or the other
it depends on what u want to do personally
craggy moss
wanna play both specs mainly m+ but more prefer to arms
clever path
What the hell is this?
LOBOZ TURBO PAD
ember apex
so u need to sim ur character for both specs and the various rings u want to craft w/ specific secondaries and see how it helps ur dps in each spec
and then decide for urself if u want more balanced for each or more arms or more fury dps
clever path
LOBOZ TURBO PAD
nvm that's prob not it but he played ravager odyns to pad
gnarlroot mythic
roar spear rava odyns
looks so cursed its crazy
you do like
80k st
warm crag
loboz incredibly powerful warrior
fading bane
wtf is this
wicked shuttle
Newb question on icy viens I see str > haste > mast > crit > ver
My question is at what percentage do I go to the next stat
wicked shuttle
ember apex
link me ur character or if u want ill use mine as an example
clever path
wtf is this
gnarlroot
fading bane
👀
clever path
idk he just refuses to play anni
true sapphire
Do people really not rock stormbolt in keys this season? Or is that for raid? Should I drop stormbolt for something more DPS oriented?
fading bane
that screenshot if for nothing
ember apex
i run shockwave/stormbolt
wicked shuttle
Bruh I just got the quest rewards lol
clever path
depends on your comp but you should run storm bolt always
wicked shuttle
And some ED stff
fading bane
wiat nvm i meant the one higher up
clever path
if you have something like veng dh havoc dh aug
you dont need shockwave
always take stormbolt
true sapphire
Okay was gonna say. I love stormbolt. But I'm starting to wonder if I should interrupt less so people leave my reflects alone.
past pivot
If you pug, you pretty much should take both.
ember apex
so my logic is this
if im #1 dps
i want to work at #1 at stuns too
if im not #1 in dps ill never take stops
true sapphire
We're typically Blood/Holy/Fury then whoever's online. Typically a Demonology, Outlaw, or WW.
ember apex
doing ur job (DPS) is more important than getting the most stuns on details
but if ur already the #1 dps
go for #1 in stuns too
clever path
if im not #1 in dps ill never take stops
by that logic you should always take all util since its not possible to beat human havocs
true sapphire
I care less about being top DPS than making sure we time, our blood DK usually finishes over 100k DPS in the 18's-22's we're running and the DPS is usually all between 150-200k.
clever path
i mean run keys and if you find shockwave to be useless dont take it next time
if you are a tauren you have budget shockwave
thats off the gcd
true sapphire
No I'm a huge shockwave enjoyer, I was just wondering why that screen cap said only 6% were spec'd into stormbolt.
ember apex
by that logic you should always take all util since its not possible to beat hum...
no. if ur losing in overall in a +20 to anyone u take 0 utility and focus on ur DPS which is what matters. once ur back on top then u can start worrying about topping stuns/stops chart etc...
clever path
No I'm a huge shockwave enjoyer, I was just wondering why that screen cap said o...
cause thats raid
true sapphire
Having Roar line up with Ava and Reck + shockwave feels way better than having an oddly placed roar for me.
clever path
people take storm bolt in raid cause they forget to switch it
ember apex
that was gnarlroot yeah
runic pine
no. if ur losing in overall in a +20 to anyone u take 0 utility and focus on ur ...
You gotta be trolling
ember apex
hows that trolling? ur job is to dps
true sapphire
cause thats raid
Ah, that was part of the original question lol.
narrow narwhal
It's pretty obvious he is
ember apex
if ur losing at dps
clever path
he has to be
ember apex
u focus on minmaxing* dps
runic pine
Def trolling
narrow narwhal
Don't feed
clever path
ye
ember apex
if ur top dps then u can do other stuff too like stuns/stops and top that chart too
ember apex
but u shouldnt focus on frivolous shit if ur not even topping meters
how is this spicy in anyway
im not trolling
btw
runic pine
Zzzzz
ember apex
ur job as a warrior is to be top overall dps
olive wraith
If you’re not the smartest in the world don’t learn anything there’s no point
rare dust
Guys
ember apex
once u achieve ur main goal
rare dust
I got a question
runic pine
Bro is trying so hard rn
ember apex
u can focus on other stuff too
olive wraith
Wait this is the dude that was complaining our tier bonus doesn’t cleave
rare dust
Which combo of trinkets are good for mythic gnarloot and igira
runic pine
Wait this is the dude that was complaining our tier bonus doesn’t cleave
He’s a troll who’s trying way too hard
ember apex
Which combo of trinkets are good for mythic gnarloot and igira
check log stats page to see what fury warriors are running
rare dust
Cataclysmic + rezan or cataclysmic + augury
ember apex
Wait this is the dude that was complaining our tier bonus doesn’t cleave
that was 100% not me
wait
nvm
runic pine
If you have augury why would you use rezan
ember apex
i did say that actually
rare dust
I watched logs on boss and more ppl use rezan than augury
olive wraith
And your rebuttal was “but locks get a trink that does 1mil dmg”
clever path
Cataclysmic + rezan or cataclysmic + augury
if the kill timer is long signet is better than rezans
olive wraith
Or something
clever path
id run augury in both
clever path
I watched logs on boss and more ppl use rezan than augury
not everyone has all trinkets
oblique chasm
but u shouldnt focus on frivolous shit if ur not even topping meters
You are either trolling or dumb, focusing on a mechanic that would kill someone or cause a wipe, it is better to stun than keep auto mashing dps... hoping someone else does ir
ember apex
You are either trolling or dumb, focusing on a mechanic that would kill someone...
i would agree w/ u but talents are locked in BEFORE u start a key
true sapphire
I watched logs on boss and more ppl use rezan than augury
I'd sim, it's early season and people haven't had that many chances at Augury. Versus a trinket you can no life for 3 days.
runic pine
I watched logs on boss and more ppl use rezan than augury
Probably because augury is ultra rare????
rare dust
I used sim
oblique chasm
i would agree w/ u but talents are locked in BEFORE u start a key
which is why you take shockwave when pugging. When you are a 5 man premade, sure you can drop it as long as your team doesn't need it.
rare dust
Let me give u my sim real quick
runic pine
which is why you take shockwave when pugging. When you are a 5 man premade, sure...
Why are you feeding the troll
SMH
ember apex
which is why you take shockwave when pugging. When you are a 5 man premade, sure...
i take shockwave everytime even when in guild groups
b/c im usually top damage
so i can focus on getting stuns too
and being top stuns
olive wraith
Man you’re in some bad groups
ember apex
hold on
oblique chasm
I just blocked him tbh
true sapphire
He just doesn't take it when there's a question as to whether or not his utility is needed. It makes perfect sense.
ember apex
ppl log the keys im in
rare dust
ember apex
Man you’re in some bad groups <:keks:936231610850897992>
also top stuns btw
(usually)
rare dust
Patchwork 1 boss 5 min
ember apex
so i do take shockwave in all M+ groups. BUT if i wasnt top damage i wouldnt take it
b/c i wouldnt be fulfilling my primary job/role which is to deal damage
runic pine
Patchwork 1 boss 5 min
Augury just does giga damage
rare dust
Augury just does giga damage
ember apex
flat damage trinkets are giga BiS on tanks. im like 3rd in line to heroic signet b/c both tanks get like 3x the dps from it
rare dust
Just wanted to be sure, if i use the right combination bcs i was confused for a second
olive wraith
Man I want Aug
red yew
Augury just does giga damage
Cursed group wtf
runic pine
Cursed group wtf
Was helping alts get an 18
runic pine
I needed the crests anyways
red yew
clever path
Augury just does giga damage
got myth track shield
olive wraith
Filling vault ain’t bad either
runic pine
Filling vault ain’t bad either
My vault is already filled with 20+ lol
olive wraith
Well nvm haha
runic pine
Been busy trying to get io
olive wraith
Ya I’m still struggling for invites for 20s
unreal cape
so how do we go about crafting a ring this week ? i wouldnt know what stats to choose
olive wraith
Pug group depleted my 20 rise (shocker)
runic pine
flat damage trinkets are giga BiS on tanks. im like 3rd in line to heroic signet...
I got heroic signet LC’d to me as a dps
Augury was vault
olive wraith
so how do we go about crafting a ring this week ? i wouldnt know what stats to c...
You sim
runic pine
unreal cape
how is that gonna be relevant, if im gonna swap a few pieces of gear in the coming week / next week ?
sim is only for my current gear
olive wraith
Your sim in the future will adjust to your current stats
unreal cape
i thought there was a combination of stats people generally went with, with the crafted ring
runic pine
Ya I’m still struggling for invites for 20s
I’m over 2900 and somehow don’t get invites to 18s that I’m targeting for specific items
ember apex
I got heroic signet LC’d to me as a dps
yeah its simming like 10k dps over both our tanks dps trinkets (they run 1 cheat 1 dps trinket) and flat damage is always crazy on tanks idk why
true sapphire
so how do we go about crafting a ring this week ? i wouldnt know what stats to c...
Use gear compare to compare different stat combinations. Just remember to "create new gear set" and make sure it's on the same finger each time. It won't remain relevant, but it will give you your best for now.
olive wraith
Gear compare* but yes
runic pine
yeah its simming like 10k dps over both our tanks dps trinkets (they run 1 cheat...
Well no wonder it sims 10k over their trinkets
They’re running a cheat trinket
ember apex
over their current dps trinkets
runic pine
That’s fucking cheating lol
runic pine
There’s no shot it sims 10k over their dps trinket
ember apex
and i get like 3.5k dps vs rezans at 483
ember apex
There’s no shot it sims 10k over their dps trinket
yeah its in their wowaudits i checked
runic pine
It does about 10k itself
ember apex
vDH and protPala
runic pine
Not counting the main stat
ember apex
yeah but tanks scall diff