fury

[spare otter]

Legit does less dps than brand in m+

[neon stream]

zug zug brother

[thorn oriole]

How does SIMC works ? he is compring the item as it is and not taking in account the possible upgrades riight ?

[neon stream]

gloves for sure

[meager void]

you need to input the upgrade choices

[ember apex]

it will take ur great vault options. it knows u can only take one

it will assume u pick only one and then sim the impact each choice has on ur dps independently

[thorn oriole]

ok but at their ilvl or their max upgradable

[ember apex]

depends on how u configure it

[eternal sundial]

Current

By default

[thorn oriole]

alriiiiiiiight

[ember apex]

if u leave it at default its current

but u should max all ur upgrades out and sim that b/c thats what ur gonna do anyway

[meager void]

check the plus icon in each gear slot

[rotund ginkgo]

simming topgear

😮

[split coyote]

Ret in my guild got leggo last night. Pretending afk when asked to help with superbloom

[ember apex]

he let the leggo go to his head

[restive peak]

I need togo kill HC fyrakk today

For my leggo

[chrome plover]

between 0 and everyone

[split coyote]

Good luck bro

[ember apex]

wait 0 ppl can get lego on mythic fyrak kill?

[chrome plover]

yes?

[ember apex]

even with max BLP

[wanton flower]

told my guild if they get leggo before me, ill help them with superbloom only once i also get the leggo. force them to wait with me

[ember apex]

thats crazy

[chrome plover]

Same as evoker lego

[ember apex]

i didnt know that

[chrome plover]

wdym “max blp”

[meager void]

over 9000 blp

[lunar cape]

You don't have to have any 2 hand str users in a group

[restive peak]

❤️ ty homie

[ember apex]

full clear heroic since week 1 + mythic boss kills to me = max BLP

[meager void]

and yeah, gluck man

[ember apex]

like ur doing everything u are able to

basically

[restive peak]

I got a lesser from all 6 bosses on mythic last night

[ember apex]

not sitting on ur hands waiting for it

[meager void]

one thing that I kinda appreciate is that you get to know if leggo dropped right away as boss dies

blp token shows up right as fyrakk dies

[shell jackal]

can't wait to see the bdk in my group get it

[astral path]

It’s sadge 😔

No trinkets no axe this week

[ember apex]

ive had 3x +20 vault slots every week + max raid slots at minimum heroic and my biggest vault item gave me +680 dps

3x bricked vaults in a row

in fact socket simmed higher this week but i couldnt take it because it was more valuable to remove the crest limit on an item slot vs the socket

so i couldnt even take that

[shell jackal]

yeah my vault today was the brh neck but 489, as so like, 6 ilvls on it i guess?

but otherwise ive had kinda poo ones too

[past pivot]

You realize “max blp” is probably 1% at the very most at the point, don’t you. Probably far far less.

[shell jackal]

surely i'll get augury and the axe tonight

[eternal sundial]

[mossy fox]

give pls

[narrow verge]

golly

[spiral oasis]

Avoidance and a sockey

Goodness gracious

[ember apex]

so if u clear heroic every single week for 16 weeks in a row + have a couple dozen mythic boss kills. u have a 1% chance to get leggo?

there's no way that's the formula fam

[restive peak]

I think he means 1% per week

[ember apex]

no he said max BLP

[silent burrow]

Jesus

[ember apex]

not per week

[past pivot]

If it’s like the evoker, probably.

[ember apex]

re-read what he said

[mellow crow]

yknow how you get leggo carl?

[eternal sundial]

im psure thisll just never get replaced

[mellow crow]

play the game, it'll drop, or it won't lmao

dont worry about chances

youll get it or you wont

doesnt matter till you do lmao

[ember apex]

?? ur trolling if ur not putting max effort in to get it

[narrow verge]

im glad im not getting it early so the mats can get cheaper

[mellow crow]

clearing everything is max effort

[restive peak]

Think he meant max weekly

[ember apex]

im in ~rank 1000 world guild

we get CE but late

[rotund ginkgo]

ait 489 weapon is 1k dps increaser

[mellow crow]

ya just continue clearing everything you can

[ember apex]

yeah i plan on full clearing heroic every week

and trying to get in on as many mythic boss kills as i can

[compact knot]

good loot

[restive peak]

Lewl

[robust widget]

all the haste

[silent gazelle]

Maybe a band of burning thorns could drop

[compact knot]

too bad its lfr

farming the BLP

[surreal blaze]

We had a leggo drop for one of our Pally's last night in heroic

[eternal sundial]

it doesnt wanna sim an upgrade elp

[barren vapor]

how on this forsaken earth is the 441 Anvil still better than 470 pip

[restive peak]

Anvil OP

[last coral]

yo guys

[barren vapor]

I'm so tired of using it

[last coral]

is the legendary axe not bis for fury?

it doesnt show up on any bis lists i look at

[ember apex]

ur not going to find headhunter on BiS lists for any poe build, yet its bis for most builds

some things dont need mentioning

[gloomy sequoia]

Our healer hold pally got the legendary last night

[ember apex]

also it's assumed that if u have the legendary item ur going to use it, u dont need to look at a list that says equip the best item

[heady prism]

Hello - I am new to this Discord, so pardon me if I write something wrongly.

I have a gear-related fury question regarding usage of the Fyrakk 1H as OH with a 2H instead of 2x 2H with same ilvl as the 1H.

Raidbots is simming my 1H in higher than same ilvl 2H.

Have a been sleeping in class and missed when 2x 2H isnt best anymore?

Thoughts?

[winter shoal]

HH is so 2018, if you don't fuck with MB I don't fuck with you

[ember apex]

MB is boring and theres more power creep inherent to HH

[weak grail]

Does Fyr'alath benefits from Avatar?

[winter shoal]

2x 2h is generally better still, but if your offhand weapon sucks then fyrakk 1h might be viable to use TEMPORARILY

Sim yourself to see exact numbers

[ember apex]

link this sim

[heady prism]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tSqfVedxfqos8NursQTovF

[winter shoal]

IIRC @balmy shore simmed it yesterday and 489 gholak was very close to a 2h offhand for single target, but was like 15k behind on multitarget

[ember apex]

108k dps is super low but ill 👀

[thorny peak]

Teach me how to get a MB please

[low folio]

after learning how the axe is currently, i am a little less excited about it. its still cool but man is that channel risky

[ember apex]

farm div cards

[heady prism]

True Carlo, but hey its what I got

[winter shoal]

Play game a lot 👍

[oblique trail]

@fading bane holy fk I keep ramping

[fading bane]

Inshallah

[oblique trail]

1 augury and signet then it's gg

[restive peak]

damn bro I'm geared AF and you're an ilvl ahead lol

[oblique trail]

I went up almost 3 ilvl just today

[oblique trail]

but you'll get smoldie and lego wep today

[ember apex]

im simming a 463 crafted 2h axe in ur offhand instead of normal fyrakk 1h to see how that affects ur sim. im doing 463 b/c it requires 0 crests not even whelplings

[oblique trail]

🙏

[chrome plover]

HMM

[ember apex]

also ur loot spec should always be arms just as a side note

[oblique trail]

chest or catalyst angle

[restive peak]

486 leggies?

Chest*

[heady prism]

It is now 😛

[ember apex]

ok im running that sim, im just comparing crafted 2h in offhand w/ no crests vs 1h fyrakk in offhand. no other changes

[oblique trail]

Is what I'm at atm

got shoulders to catalyse next reset as well for 489 that slot too

[ember apex]

normal mode signet is > than 483 might of ocean FYI

[restive peak]

Wep and helm diff, that explains lol

[oblique trail]

yeah

[restive peak]

Mind you I have a 486 ring in bags, it just sucks

xD

[oblique trail]

Think if I upgrade shoulders I'm 484.5

roughly

[restive peak]

Gamin

[oblique trail]

give catalyst now ty

[visual orbit]

should i go w rezan ?

[oblique trail]

the one that'll be gaming is you next raid time

when you get wep + lego

[unreal onyx]

I still have 2 catalyst charges

[last coral]

why does the legendary axe not show up on any bis lists btw? anyone knows?

[oblique trail]

because it hasn't been put there

however people already said that it's bis and it's very common knowledge that it would be

It's bis by simply being higher ilvl, and having the effect + on-use

[ember apex]

u dont need to put the best item in the entire game on a BiS list

[last coral]

yeah its obviously bis, but its on bis lists for ret pala and dks

thats why i find it so odd

[ember apex]

like i said no one has headhunter / mageblood belt in a bis list for poe builds despite them being the best items in the entire game

[oblique trail]

It just hasn't been updated to include it

But it's an obvious given that it'll be bis

[fading sky]

Ilvl above all

[ember apex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eWQ5nDn61mVTrKpNTu7LAf

there u go

that is just the random 2h crafted sword 0 crests

[heady prism]

hmm

Thanks - Ill take a look at it!

[ember apex]

also just checked ur armory u have a heroic incandescent soulcleaver

u should def be using that

[meager lantern]

can someone link me a build for this week

[clever path]

its the same

[oblique trail]

It's the same as every week

[clever path]

as last week

[hardy monolith]

Lol

[clever path]

can prolly switch bc and slaughter

[oblique trail]

Here if you need it

[meager lantern]

i didn;t play since season 1

xD

[clever path]

welcome back

[chrome plover]

realised i cant craft before raid because i dont have any crests

gg

[oblique trail]

gg you know why

actually

[chrome plover]

job innit

[oblique trail]

you can probably just use all of your whelps/drakes you have sitting

And get 45 wyrms to buy the crest

[chrome plover]

I did

[oblique trail]

oh

[hardy monolith]

Use the two heroic ones for free 476

[oblique trail]

yeah then it's actually gg

[hardy monolith]

If u haven’t

[chrome plover]

i used those for first 2

[hardy monolith]

RIP

[chrome plover]

i had enough drakes for 15 wyrms...

[hardy monolith]

A scam

[chrome plover]

i need 20 drakes for another 15

[oblique trail]

that is very unfortunate

[chrome plover]

but the last 15 is doomed

[oblique trail]

what about whelps

[chrome plover]

raid in 10

90 whelps turns into 15 drakes

[oblique trail]

or are you out of those too

[chrome plover]

i used 90 and i have 70 left

[oblique trail]

gg

[chrome plover]

actually gg

[river reef]

unfortge

[chrome plover]

and we do mythic first

wyrms gone

[restive peak]

Bro so are wyrms just dead at this point? Lol

[oblique trail]

depending on your gear yeah

for me I lost any use for them today

[chrome plover]

if you geared well ur done today

[restive peak]

Ye I have 102 and theyre dead to me, sadness

[chrome plover]

potentially last week if u geared really well

[spare otter]

the aspect limit is getting rough now

[restive peak]

Ye I got the achieve last week, how sad

Wish I could send to other chars

[clever path]

this is why i dont rush the content tbh, nothing to do after week 3 lol

[misty helm]

Flavor Pocket doesnt count towards the 2 right

[oblique trail]

Cranking gear means less worry about falling behind and more time to just do other things

[clever path]

besides hoping for something in vault or mythic raid

[oblique trail]

IT doesn't

[clever path]

true

[oblique trail]

New PoE league on friday

[misty helm]

71k gyattt ur boy def buyin a token to save a mans life

[restive peak]

We pushin for HOF/top 50 US so had no choice but to mad gear it lol

[oblique trail]

not having to worry about farming gear at the same time is very chill

[river reef]

poe league looking good?

[oblique trail]

Err

It looks very interesting

power creep potentially some of the strongest in a while

[river reef]

[latent ledge]

I'm playing SSF for first time

This league

[oblique trail]

playing group ssf with 4 friends

can't wait to literally make zero progress

[latent ledge]

Private league?

[oblique trail]

yea

[latent ledge]

Me too

We did a guild private, we are 15

[clever path]

TACOOO!

[chrome plover]

that sounds fun tbh

should do that one league

but 2 of my friends are giga trade heads

and would not like it

[oblique trail]

we've always been very trade oriented

but

have all said we'd want to give it a try

Just to see what it'd be like

[chrome plover]

i am very trade oriented too but group ssf sounds fun

[oblique trail]

I think the most interesting part is not looking at a divine and think "can't wait to buy X item with this"

and instead think "now I can metamod this item and finish crafting it"

[river reef]

*and brick it

[oblique trail]

well yeah

as per usual

My crafting game is

lacking

to say the least

[river reef]

late game gamba is the best time in POE

bricking all the gear bcs nobody got time to play standard

[oblique trail]

my friend got a foil mageblood this league that we wanted to double corrupt

nothing happened though..

[warm rain]

hey question for you guys, after bracers/cloak, what is the next piece you're crafting? I was thinking belt or ring for flavor pocket, any suggestions?

[winter shoal]

I always think ssf will be fun until I play it and it's despair

I have too much zoomer brain

[oblique trail]

Ring for flavour is what I did

[chrome plover]

yeah group ssf takes a lot of that pain away though

[grave matrix]

under 50% is normal BT better than Execute?

[oblique trail]

There aren't too many great rings this season

[chrome plover]

if youve got like 4-10 people

[river reef]

new league no level uniques is the most despair time ever playing POE

[oblique trail]

And flavour pocket + socket just goes hard

[chrome plover]

i love league start

it's so poggers

[clever path]

ring with flavor packet is a dps increase - Banezi

[river reef]

nah I gotta zoom

[oblique trail]

you save downtime eating food so it's an increase in uptime

[clever path]

im just joshing you

😄

[warm rain]

yeah i was thinking ring too, I just wasn't sure haha

[oblique trail]

And tbf

There is a great belt from DHT

(and ring)

so yeah

[chrome plover]

so crafting wyrms ring and using extra aspects is 300 more dps than aspects ring would be

hmmm

[winter shoal]

Nah, I believe these are the relevant lines in the APL

[warm rain]

thanks guys

[clever path]

so, random question. is arms just as good as fury in M+? but fury is better in raid?

[restive peak]

Fury is better overall, fury has slightly better ST/prio dmg for M+ and is far tankier

[tidal path]

we swap build as soon as we get the 2p?

[restive peak]

They're fairly close though, play what you prefer, I would say for tyrann week arms is susceptible to dying currently at higher 1s and fury survives better

[clever path]

watching crits last video makes me just want to play with it here and there

i like both

[winter shoal]

If you're going to play fury with 2p2p, yes you swap to anni. Whether you want to do that vs playing arms (or 4p t30 fury) until you have t31 4pc is up to you, your sims, and god

[summer quail]

arms prob has more overall damage but fury is just so tanky

for m+

[tidal path]

ty

[clever path]

yeah i did see crit die like 4 times in the video, not sure if it was a accident or arms just isnt able to take a hit

[restive peak]

Arms does not have more overall dmg

[summer quail]

you don't think? it has less st but more uncapped aoe

[winter shoal]

Fort week with big pulls it probs does, tyran week maybe not

[restive peak]

The only reason you'd play arms > fury, at this point, is preference.

Prio dmg still matters for M+

And arms prio dmg in AOE build is fairly mediocre compared to fury ST in AOE build

[winter shoal]

I mean I'm a +20 weekly for vault enjoyer so FoB arms is super comfy

Brain off, WW on

[restive peak]

It will be another season where the only high key arms people are just people who won't play fury and their friends are cool w it

Ye, 110% for that arms pumps then

If you're going up to 25-27s rn though, I'd struggle to see where you'd choose arms

[clever path]

yeah but you can take slaughter over blood craze for fury and do more st

[oblique trail]

Arms is pretty sick for Sanguine weeks

😎

insane mortal wounds value

[summer quail]

i don't think it's comparable to last season tbh, fury was just ahead in general last season for m+. fury was so goddamn strong

[low folio]

i want to try arms at some point for fun because the tier set seems kinda cool if nothing else, thunderclapping every sudden death feels cool

[oblique trail]

not sure if I feel the TC

apart from it just making rend application very smooth

[low folio]

its more the visual i like

[oblique trail]

ngl

I barely notice it

Even on ST with nothing going on

[restive peak]

It is comparable to last season for different reasons; this season, timers are quiet forgiving, but surviving is the hard part..fury excels at this

quite*

English is hard

[gilded pawn]

Fury is bette

[summer quail]

i feel the sound for sure, nice lil tclap sound everytime sd

[gilded pawn]

But it’s not that much better at survival

[oblique trail]

Not playing with sound

[low folio]

fury is noticeably tankier than arms

[oblique trail]

gotta make sure nothing disturbs the music

[restive peak]

Yeah that's just not true; fury is much more durable than arms currently. 5% additional stam compounded with a second 2her, BT being a main part of our rotation etc

[clever path]

we need one of these for arms

[winter shoal]

Just claim it's not your first language

[restive peak]

XD

[oblique trail]

Arms is certainly not squishy, just that Fury is kinda just too tanky by comparison

[restive peak]

Sadly it is, I just have had too much caffeine and not enough sleep xD

^

[summer quail]

ye, but the damage difference between arms and fury is pretty small this season. last season fury was just too good

[restive peak]

Never said arms wasn't tanky, fury is tankier.

[oblique trail]

Like on Larodar I'm casually sitting in fire pools to avoid spreading more and healing it all up

[modest condor]

fury also stacks vers this season

[restive peak]

Surviving matters more than dmg this season

[summer quail]

true

[restive peak]

So you're correct; last season fury was preferred due to damage profile, this season fury is better due to better survivability

and slightly better prio/ST dmg

[oblique trail]

Also Fury rot sustain

Extremely busted

[clever path]

so next season arms will prob be better

[restive peak]

Arms hasnt been better for an M+ season in ages

[low folio]

doesnt fury scale with stats better than arms though

[summer quail]

scaling xD

[restive peak]

But no, probably not, because we'll have dinars and guaranteed 2 BIS weps next tier

So likely fury, barring big reworks/tuning changes

[modest condor]

oh no someone said the s word

[restive peak]

xD

[winter shoal]

"ages" meaning since s1?

[low folio]

does that word upset people

[clever path]

[winter shoal]

Go read #arms from like 30 mins ago

[manic kettle]

On wowhead, is the storm of sword build better than the Anger management build now?

[winter shoal]

If you have t31 yes

[clever path]

is archi playing arms? or fury?

[winter shoal]

I think he's a fury 1 trick

[restive peak]

Was arms better for high end keys S1? I quit S1, ras was dog water

[manic kettle]

I got 2sets, so should i wait?

[winter shoal]

You played fury in TOJS and SBG but arms everything else

[summer quail]

for some dungeons it was, the biig pull dungeons

[winter shoal]

You can swap with 2pc

[restive peak]

Makes sense

[olive wraith]

AA

[manic kettle]

okay cool thanks

[olive wraith]

Arms wet dream

[low folio]

eh i was just saying something i heard a long time ago, oh well not that important anyways. id play fury as main regardless

[winter shoal]

AA 1m dps first pull felt so fuckign goood

[modest condor]

scaling is a meme that shows someone doesnt understand how the game works, it hasnt been relevant in over a decade

[summer quail]

ye algethar academy and to a certain point nokhud

[olive wraith]

NO was good too

[summer quail]

tbf arms s1 tier set was also really really strong and fury set was pretty bad

[low folio]

ya i dont really pay attention that closely, i hear things and remember them but dont usually bother learning how certain things work since i play mostly the same thing every season every expansion

[modest condor]

almost everything is normalized these days and who is best is more bound by tuning and how good someone's tierset is (or in the past couple of expansions how good they interacted with the borrowed powers)

[eternal sundial]

Fury scales with aura buff castle nathria Edition

[modest condor]

real

[restive peak]

Surely fury is just scaling...right Silm? RIGHT?!

[low folio]

ya i never bothered learning about that stuff, knowing it doesnt really change how ill go about the game anyways

[restive peak]

I kid I kid, we solid this tier

About to loot my leggo

[modest condor]

there are ofcourse specs that scale better with secondaries than others, usually an indication of a badly scaling spec is one that wants a lot of vers, but in the grand scheme of things it's negligible

[uneven plaza]

How much haste do we actually want? cuz im on 23% haste and 60% mast, and sims still tell me to go mastery

monkaW

[low folio]

100% haste is bis

[modest condor]

as much as your sim makes you equip

[winter shoal]

However much the robot tells you

I will say playing with 25% haste after being arms all season felt super weird in raid last night

(was my first full raid as fury)

[modest condor]

playing with 25% haste after playing with 36% for a whole tier feels slow

[uneven plaza]

^

feels like you aged 50 years ngl

[restive peak]

Ye the haste drop feels weird AF

I feel like I'm lagging on the non lust on pull fights LOL

[winter shoal]

And then you have to target swap and you lose frenzy stacks

[summer quail]

when wafting procs i feel fast af tho

[grave matrix]

weak fury stats?

42% haste

:d

[oblique trail]

yes so incredibly insanely weak it's unplayable

[summer quail]

you should just uninstall now

[gilded pawn]

40 40 30

wtf

Hacking

[grave matrix]

xaxa

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/extemporize-warlock-gif-21898214

[grave matrix]

imma

get the ring from Thicket

and craft 1 ring

that will fix the stats

[near gust]

ok was there some kind of rollback?

mount dropped for me and now it isnt there

[quiet geyser]

CaUtEx

[thorny peak]

No lie doing mog runs in legion and having to wait 2 weeks made me sad

[midnight scaffold]

aint no fucking way

[thorny peak]

Gz

[midnight scaffold]

tyty

[quiet geyser]

FU.

[clever path]

Gz

[quiet geyser]

Kidding, grats

[clever path]

Me rn

[midnight scaffold]

holy shit

[low folio]

now go spend some gold

[thorny peak]

Is that like aberuss if 1 drops everyone eligible gets it or is it just one item per raid period

[midnight scaffold]

how much is it actualy

[clever path]

expensive

[low folio]

a lot is all i know

[clever path]

1.3-1.5 mil

[sterile stratus]

Did you get that from the heroic cache quest lol

[midnight scaffold]

BRUH

[quartz lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/another-thor-chrishemsworth-gif-4736083

[chrome plover]

nah no way it's that much

[clever path]

it is

[sterile stratus]

P2win

[wary fjord]

Lel, it was 350k on my server

[thorny peak]

459k ish

[midnight scaffold]

oof

[chrome plover]

i think it's around 500k

[low folio]

thats how much the first guy spent but it can and will be lower. specially as time goes on

[clever path]

Too expensive for you just hand it over my guy

[thorny peak]

True it should be lower

[clever path]

i would assume it would be higher as time goes on

people can charge whatever they want

[chrome plover]

no they cant they are mostly mats that are used for a lot of crafts

and the auction house is region wide

individuals or even groups cannot control that

[low folio]

it would be more at the start since less people saturating the market at the beginning

[chrome plover]

people rush to buy it all asap and then there's a slow trickle of people getting the legendary

it might stay stable but it wont go up

[edgy widget]

overly high

[chrome plover]

aside from probably a small spike around reset

[thorny peak]

At least next week I can cata my mythic chest

[wary fjord]

They should just let us buy it with 48 vault coins

[grave matrix]

actually, I was thinking that, if i will be crafting a ring right now, if i sim it it may actually show me Mastery/versa stats, right?

[wary fjord]

Have to skip 8 weeks of vault for guaranteed lego

[patent dust]

I have to much crit, but it’s hard to get jewelry

[clever path]

just let us buy it from the store

[wary fjord]

True

[edgy widget]

could, I've been using vers/mastery for 2 tiers now

actually crit is about tied with mastery for me right now, though it won't stay that way for very long

[patent dust]

I am 22 crit 37 haste, 62 mas 8 vers

[quiet geyser]

Why you ppl have so much haste

My god

[olive wraith]

I’m starting to drop haste a bit

[clever path]

yeah give up some haste for vers

[patent dust]

Because they keep going bing the Lock Pi over me 🙂

[clever path]

Archi do you think crit and vers will be a lot bigger once you get lego?

[patent dust]

Giving *

[quiet geyser]

This tier haste falls off hard around 25%ish

[quiet geyser]

According to the wowhead article, the dot from lego cant crit

[clever path]

What about the on uae

[patent dust]

The dead spot in rage gen is so rough though

[clever path]

Rage gen problem as fury is unheard of

prolly the same on arms too

[patent dust]

It’s not a “problem “. There is just a dead spot after the second OF cycle

[clever path]

Eh

In aoe or st?

[patent dust]

St

[clever path]

Nah I’ve never had that issue

[patent dust]

Where both slam and ww are both on cd

[low folio]

i mean there are still buttons to press but rampage uses do slow down

[clever path]

Bt slam and ww all on cd??

[patent dust]

Not by

Bt

[low folio]

oh i know what your talking about

[patent dust]

But bb not up

[upbeat blade]

Make sure bloodthirst is every other gcd, even if you have rage to use rampage during slow points

[low folio]

there can be dead spots on getting rampage up for the next empowered bt. atleast i dont know how to prevent that from happening

[patent dust]

More haste no?

[low folio]

it would probably happen more often if you have low haste

[restive peak]

No leggo fam 😦

[winter shoal]

slam and ww cds are hasted so it'd be the same

[quiet geyser]

No. Your "dead spots" are cuz you're not bt weaving enough

[winter shoal]

this is generally true but they're talking about after OF to not use set procs on non-RA bts

You can try chargeweaving on some bosses to remedy that

[prime summit]

anyone get the lego this reset?

[sterile stratus]

Someone just posted they did

Should see it if you scroll up

[prime summit]

lets gooo

grats

it exists

[restive peak]

Another great and 6 lessers this week, surely tuesday it's mine

D:

[patent dust]

I need it #mustbetopdeeps

Rogue is hard to beat

[woeful mantle]

Dont think it puts us to the top lol

[patent dust]

We have 5 in our group who will be top deeps. Just a matter of who plays better.

Who cheeses the most mechanics, etc.

[ember apex]

i had 2 pulls on mythic larodar prog last night where i was top dps

when we killed it i had 2 bombs and lived to the end

but was bottom dps

and gray parsed

[winter shoal]

are your dhs trolling?

[ember apex]

DHs plural lul

our demo was usually top

[patent dust]

Soak a add pool on nymue, don’t get it.

We have 1 dh. They could put in some more effort.

[quiet geyser]

Dhs and rogues get ViP service this tier

Didnt you know

[restive peak]

DHs not topping on AOE fights are troll as fuck bro

[ember apex]

is larodar even an aoe fight theres like what 4 sets of adds

and they die in 10sec

[winter shoal]

Plus cleave on brambles ye

But it's not like DH single target is bad either

[patent dust]

We have a hunter, rogue, enhance, dev, and me. Any chance be of us are a threat for top of the board

[ember apex]

brambles dead before boss can be stacked, if u get 4ww stacks cleaved ur lucky

[icy pendant]

Can you drop the legendary weapon in normal after killing Fyrakk on Hero mode ?

[restive peak]

You should not be threatening the hunters and rogues for #1, they're not playing right

[patent dust]

I never said they were

[oblique trail]

(my parse was still shit despite this)

[ember apex]

35k dps ?

[patent dust]

Ballin

[ember apex]

oh

[oblique trail]

Idk if our DHs/or w/e played bad or good, but I was consistently way ahead of anyone else on Larodar adds

[ember apex]

on the adds

[winter shoal]

Were you holding cds for them?

Aside from the first set ig

[ember apex]

yes he was for sure

[oblique trail]

I mean Fury CDs line up for them basically

[quiet geyser]

Legendary warrior Banezi

[ember apex]

yeah

[quiet geyser]

Wait, can we even call you that any more

You dont have lego

[oblique trail]

I indeed dont have it

I leave it for everyone else

[ember apex]

the downside if u hold on lardoar is that the first 10sec of lust u dont have CDs

but thats it basically

[wanton mirage]

Its always like that. My guild play out of their fking mind whenever I died early

[ember apex]

i mean im having a shit tier tbh

i have 3 gray parses

never played this bad ever

[winter shoal]

Stop dying

[ember apex]

im not

i lived to the end of larodar

prased a 4 i think

[winter shoal]

Unironically though, record your gameplay and rewatch the vod, in slow motion if you can

[ember apex]

i did

i shadowplay reviewed my footage last night

on our kill pull i fumbled my CDs

and thats it basically i fucked up

[winter shoal]

If you're identifying errors then you can fix them on reclear and you're good to go

But I feel like fumbling your cds isn't a grey parse in and of itself

[ember apex]

here

[winter shoal]

I was dead for most of execute on hc fyrakk last week and still green parsed

[oblique trail]

wtf

is that prog path

[ember apex]

last tier

[gilded pawn]

Fumbling cds can be

[ember apex]

im being sat on prog

[oblique trail]

oh

I was about to say

that is a cursed route

[ember apex]

im only in on reclears

[oblique trail]

going full flame wing before council

[ember apex]

i still dont have 489 wep but im also playing bad

[modest condor]

it's the route liquid and echo took

[oblique trail]

Fair

Personally think that Volc -> Council -> Nymue makes more sense

[ember apex]

idk what to do about fumbling CDs. ive sat on dummies practicing

[oblique trail]

Since Larodar drops dick all loot compared to Council and Nymue

[ember apex]

but in raid i just screw up

normally

previously we always have CDs up

so a few mistakes is no big deal = blue parse on mythic

now

gray

[oblique trail]

Ofc for WF, the loot wasn't as big of a factor

[modest condor]

max thinks larodar is easier than nymue, but honestly after 1 night of prog on nymue it doesnt seem that difficult of a boss

[oblique trail]

Yeah Nymue is frankly quite easy

[stark depot]

Hearthstone BiS tho

[modest condor]

we made it all the way to the last add phase with everybody alive within 10 pulls and then wiped because the middle group forgot they had to go to the middle

[oblique trail]

It is bis and that's why you get it 2nd week of season

[oblique trail]

happens to the best of us

[clever path]

mythic raid is just waiting for your lesser skilled guildies to get it together

[winter shoal]

What's goin on with your volcoross

[ember apex]

let me check log. idk its all a blur b/c im mad about it

here's the link in case u want to look but ill find out rn

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/illidan/carlo

[elder epoch]

augury is shit for me now pog

[winter shoal]

My brother in christ what is this opener

[elder epoch]

guess i keep rezans

[ember apex]

ok red pill me on my opener please

wtf am i doing wrong

[modest condor]

where is your OF

[stark depot]

Where OF

[winter shoal]

reck > charge > ramp > of > spear/roar > rotation until OF bleed expires > ava

[rotund steppe]

wheres the OF

[ember apex]

i hold it until after avatar is over to not clip

[olive wraith]

Where of

[rotund steppe]

.-.

[winter shoal]

Just OF first?

[modest condor]

clip what?

[oblique trail]

You don't clip Avatar

[olive wraith]

Brain cells

Clipclip

[oblique trail]

They add ontop of each other

[modest condor]

the OF proc from avatar lasts 4 seconds so at most you would have to wait that long

[hardy monolith]

if you 5 heal it, it is a joke

[gilded pawn]

Holy fk

First of 20 seconds into the fight?

[modest condor]

yeah we're 5 healing

[winter shoal]

Here's my opener from volcoross btw for reference

I fucked it, shouldn't have BBd there

But you get the idea

[ember apex]

hold up

let me get my timeline real quick for larodar

[hardy monolith]

we 4th heal it on prog and it was honestly a mistake, on reclear 5th healing it took us 2 pulls i think

or 3

[ember apex]

b/c thats what i was doing for larodar

[grave matrix]

my fellow Fury pumpers, I've played Arms till today, I need a lil guidance on the prio, cuz I'm not sure if I press my buttons right
is it BB => Ramp => Exe => BT => Slam => WW

?

[modest condor]

pretty much yeah

[ember apex]

thats my larodar opener

still wrong yes?

was*

[modest condor]

exe has prio over ramp if you have ashen juggernaut

[winter shoal]

Kind of, it's less of a straight priority system than arms though. Also execute is above ramp with AJ

[olive wraith]

Where is rek

[bitter wind]

What's the census on what's better for single target - Spear, or Roar? I prefer roar as I don't have to worry about standing in the spear circle.

[grave matrix]

Oh, okay, didn't play it in raid yet, but thanks

[ember apex]

sry wrong vie

[winter shoal]

Reck > charge will give you enough rage to ramp for enrage immediately, then you can OF

[gilded pawn]

Use casts

Not damage

[ember apex]

yeah

[olive wraith]

Spear is ahead by a little

[silent burrow]

I just die on larodar kills and it makes me so happy (it doesn't)

[winter shoal]

So true bestie

[olive wraith]

But roar is honestly fine for laziness

[winter shoal]

Always roar 👍

[olive wraith]

Why is your av/reck delayed so much

[oblique trail]

Spear is better with Roar being easier, but Spear on the fights you use it on it's quite easy to stay in it whenever you'd cast, only exception being some Smolderon overlaps

[ember apex]

waiting for add grouping

we had a cast go off during first add set

[silent burrow]

Smolderon not perfectly lining up with spear makes my soul die

[ember apex]

so i was waiting to nuke them

[winter shoal]

You don't need to delay reck

Just ava/roar

[modest condor]

i would delay reck there

[ember apex]

dont i want those 2 CDs synced since im not AM?

[modest condor]

keep your cds lined up

[ember apex]

yeah

[oblique trail]

On Larodar I just sent Reck + Charge -> Ramp -> OF

[ember apex]

especially for p3 burn

during lust

[oblique trail]

Then held Ava + Roar till adds

[silent burrow]

Yeah I do same

[oblique trail]

By the time you want them again, you can hold it for 2nd adds after the roots are healed

It'll only be like 10~ sec or so iirc you hold them

Ofc if the adds just fall over regardless of what you do then use on CD

With me holding for adds though it just meant that other people could focus more on doing ST

[ember apex]

i mean im not worried about optimizing CD timings now that prog is over for that boss just trying to generally learn CD usage philosophy for this tier b/c its so diff than what im used to

i started playing in shadowlands

larodar was the only boss i progged this tier, used to be in for all prog <_<

[winter shoal]

I mean even just for volcoross which is the closest fight to "in a vacuum" gameplay this tier, you're peaking around 300k on opener vs me peaking at like 600k (and I goofed slightly)

[ember apex]

why is my shit half ur dmg

goofed opener?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[ember apex]

im just gonna practice that tonight on dummies then

hyper optimize it and make it muscle memory

[winter shoal]

There's probably more that you're goofing but I'm in a meeting rn so can't dive too much into logs

[silent burrow]

Using mirror...

[winter shoal]

I'm also dog shit at the game

[ember apex]

the problem is i've been playing AM so long im jsut used to that conceptual gameplay style

[winter shoal]

I'm a signet brand enjoyer now 👍

[oblique trail]

Tbf Mirror wont suddenly crank your opener DPS by twice the amount of someone not using it

[silent burrow]

I'm just saying, you're using the biggest stat on use available, of course your opener is big lol

[ember apex]

the critique is correct

[silent burrow]

No, but it's absolutely the way to get the biggest opener possible

[ember apex]

though

my opener is scuffed i should practice my opener

[red jackal]

does anyone know what the "simc default" for weapon rune is on raidbot? I'm trying to figure out if I should be using hissing or buzzing...

[elder epoch]

am i the only one who is losing dps from augury?

[ember apex]

hissing rune is default

mastery

[red jackal]

word

[winter shoal]

Gajeel peaked 500k with signet brand/rezan's so it's not TOO far off

[red jackal]

idk why i've been running buzzing all this time

[oblique trail]

Yeah I don't disagree that Mirror is the best for the biggest possible opener

[tall goblet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8VD9pCWwLG23ZFxb#fight=10&type=damage-done&source=3&view=timeline&start=1215771&end=1261675im peaking at 300k is my opener wrong?

[silent burrow]

Yeah with a good bit more ilvl lol

[tall goblet]

i guess 400k

[silent burrow]

also that's with spear

[winter shoal]

Yes you should be doing reck > charge > ramp > OF > spear > regular rotation until OF bleed falls off > ava

Your first ramp is delayed bc you didn't reck before charge, and you're using ava before OF so you're losing some cdr on OF

[hearty surge]

Most people just send avatar with spear though

[oblique trail]

You can do that for Smolderon

[hearty surge]

Yeh

[oblique trail]

Although ideally you'd space the CDs

[tall goblet]

does ramp always cast twice?

[winter shoal]

Oh dam I didn't realize they were only 473

[silent burrow]

Right but I'm also saying you're 478 with roar and mirror, and gajeel is 482 with spear and he's still 6 digits off

mirror is thicc on opener is all

[restive peak]

You send spear on pull for smolder so you have it up when you get your dmg buff is all

[patent dust]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GhQRXZM3N6FKAgLq#fight=27&type=damage-done

[hardy monolith]

Dont even need to, u can do reck + charge + ramp+ avatar spear and you will have them for the orbs if you drop them correctly. Given doing that opener will overcap you in rage. Did it last night on prog

[patent dust]

Here goes, I know I suck

Roast away

[oblique trail]

But that's the exact same as sending ava with spear though

[strange drift]

what is the haste cap ?

for t31

[silent burrow]

100%

[hardy monolith]

I forgot OF there

Sry

[strange drift]

i mean soft cap u know....

[olive wraith]

No such thing

[restive peak]

We have no soft caps or hard caps, sim your shit bruh

[quartz pumice]

Gogogog

What do i prioritise with 4p

[olive wraith]

Just sim and believe in our robot overlord

[restive peak]

Also haste is mediocre this tier

[quartz pumice]

I just got pulled to raid to be a buff bot.

[restive peak]

So the cap is w/e tf the robot says

[quartz pumice]

Is it still Rampage?

[winter shoal]

Yeah you're right for sure, my point still stands about them goofing the opener (which I did as well to a lesser extent) but it's not as severe as originally presented

[hardy monolith]

This

[clever path]

bloodbath

[hardy monolith]

They still line up but u overcap here

[oblique trail]

I know

and again it's what I mentioned up above

[silent burrow]

Yeah they are goofing for sure

[oblique trail]

I never said anything else than saying you can send ava with spear on Smolderon

[hardy monolith]

I thought you were mentioning this variance

[oblique trail]

no wtf is that

[silent burrow]

wtf lol

[clever path]

is gnarlroot trinky still good

on st

[winter shoal]

You just kinda sent this with no context but I assume the implication was asking if your opener is correct, the answer is "not quite" - you charge without reck so your OF isn't enraged and you use your first 2pc stack on a raw BT isntead of rampaging first for enraged OF + empowered BB

[hardy monolith]

THAts ya boy critcake opener

[restive peak]

LOL

[unreal onyx]

I doubt it is

[silent burrow]

wtf is he binding augment rune to lol

[restive peak]

We've all botched this opener several times, let's not pretend otherwise

You're just straight lying if you say otherwise

[unreal onyx]

bro mixed the pot and rune up

[oblique trail]

I mean I'm not doing the CD order properly every time

[chrome plover]

i am perfect

[restive peak]

xDD

[winter shoal]

Yeah it's new and different for sure, just need to develop muscle memory. Also the fact it's different for different fights is a little wack

[warm crag]

probably bb

[restive peak]

I've def been guilty of sending it on pull, even on a few kills, outta habit lol

[wanton flower]

this is what i did for volcoross, first tier playing warrior so not too familiar

[oblique trail]

The augment rune was a deliberate separate press

@mossy fox answer for your crimes now

is this hidden augment rune in opener tech

[silent burrow]

lol

[hardy monolith]

No he didn’t lol, he has it macroed

[clever path]

maybe he just forgot

[hardy monolith]

He’s not the only one

[olive wraith]

Macro rune and shout

Bis

[patent dust]

It throws off my av roar macro timing to reck first. Yes I was being lazy

[winter shoal]

This is correct, maybe pot before your first OF but idk

[wanton flower]

thats what i did

[hardy monolith]

That’s why I told you there’s two variances

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

stop tagging me man

ples

[olive wraith]

[silent burrow]

wat

[olive wraith]

@ banezi

[oblique trail]

Also what's wrong with this

[clever path]

Banezi sees all, they never need to be tagged

[hardy monolith]

Who said there was anything wrong?

Im just saying it was the same opener by a difference person

[oblique trail]

I mean it's the same as you sent initially

[wanton flower]

potting before OF prob makes sense, ill have to start doing that

[oblique trail]

Except OF before Spear/Avatar

It essentially is teh same

[hardy monolith]

Two different people, I know it is but some people said it was wrong since it wasn’t like the other I sent initially

It was to my point of the two variances for the opener so your CDs lineup

That’s all

[winter shoal]

FWIW the sim pots with reck on charge but that seems fake to me

[mossy fox]

bind aug rune to bb/ms/shieldslam

[restive peak]

No you def pot on pull lol

[mossy fox]

never forgetti

[restive peak]

LOL

[oblique trail]

Doesn't this cause issues for MS though

If you press MS but aug rune is on CD

So it stops your auto attack timer

[patent dust]

I like spear, however my fellow raiders can’t grasp what spear does so either the boss moves. Or someone is pulsing fire next to me, etc. having to sit on spear instead of using it does not feel good. That is why I run roar.

[silent burrow]

Let's not pretend like we don't all shout between every pack

[winter shoal]

I don't know how much it matters to pot on charge vs pot before OF ~1 sec in

[oblique trail]

At least it did for me with a toy bound to WW

[winter shoal]

I shout every time I leap ong

[marble schooner]

oh shit binding aug rune to shout is actually genious

[hardy monolith]

Big brain

[icy panther]

i shout every chance i get

[silent burrow]

I have it bound to shout and I have a cancelaura for my crafting gear in shout so I don't look like a dumbledork

[wanton flower]

yeah i have mine with shout, so if i dont have a rune up then we have bigger problems already

[silent burrow]

Bros when token of appreciation was a thing, shout actually was a defensive cd and it was amazing lol

[oblique trail]

Abused it a lot on Jailer

When literally everyone was playing Venth

[silent burrow]

and how about on painsmith intermission

it was amazing there

[oblique trail]

ngl I don't remember using it there a lot

[silent burrow]

and the dude with the bombs on the edges or whatever

[oblique trail]

Since I was still a brainlet during Sanctum

[silent burrow]

nerzhul maybe his name was idk

[pearl lance]

is it pretty much a must nowadays to go spear in raids, or can you go roar too without too much of a dmg loss?

[oblique trail]

You use both in raid

But if you absolutely despise Spear then you can use roar for a small loss

[silent burrow]

Biggest place you lose damage is smolderon

[oblique trail]

Last I checked it was a 1.2% loss for me

[winter shoal]

I play roar every fight, it's like -1% dps for me (assuming perfectly gameplay with spear)

[silent burrow]

cause of damage amp

[oblique trail]

yeah smolderon it'll be more noticeable

I'd argue though that 2 of the 3 fights you use Spear on, it's very easy to consistently stay in spear

Those 2 being Nymue and Volcoross

[mossy fox]

doesnt do anything does it

[pearl lance]

Ahh ok, ill try spear on those, yeah those should be easy enough to stay in spear 😄

[winter shoal]

It's not about being easy, it's about the "fuck spear" grindset

[scarlet mantle]

this is probably such a dumb question but can we "use" the greater emblem of fyr'rath as soon as we get it or are we supposed to save it and like click it before we pull fyrakk?

[oblique trail]

I had issues with a WW macro with a toy tied to it, where it'd pause my swing timer

[silent burrow]

[oblique trail]

Just assumed that augment rune would have a similar effect

It'd only happen if the toy was on CD

[mossy fox]

probably the toy

[unreal cape]

are yall running Roar instead of spear on MT raid bosses ?

[mossy fox]

im sure id notice if my ms or aa got delayed

[oblique trail]

Yeah likely

Just assumed that it might've had a similar effect

[oblique trail]

Spear for Volco, Nymue and Smolderon. Roar for rest

Or as mentioned above, Roar for all if you really cba Spear for whatever reason you have

[unreal cape]

gotcha 👍

and DB right? the talent build on wowhead has titanic rage, which i wouldnt take for raid

[dire badge]

ok but now I must misinterpret what you are saying and argue about spear

[oblique trail]

[winter shoal]

Yeah DB for all boss fights

You probably want to play DB in keys too at least for tyran week

[unreal cape]

ye thats what i've done and thought, thats why im surprised the wowhead thing has rage

[oblique trail]

Titanic is better for immediate burst

But worse overall

[winter shoal]

Well if it's the build with shockwave then that's meant for keys, not aoe boss fights

[oblique trail]

And as for keys, DB will generally always be the optimal pick

You can play Titanic though instead if you just want the quality of life of it making your CD window smoother

[urban tapir]

really i hate the feel of DB in keys rn lol

[winter shoal]

Not to beat a dead horse TOO much but I've seen a lot of mfs post log reviews with 0 EM uptime because they didn't read the talent

[oblique trail]

Yeah well

That's an user error

Of being stupid

[winter shoal]

I mean I agree

[oblique trail]

There is a surprising amount of people who don't actually read what their talents and abilities do

[winter shoal]

Just another point in favor of team #FuckSpear

[oblique trail]

And question it

Like at least gloss over the talents before you play a new spec/class

So you have a basic understanding

[manic kettle]

Is there still something about the order of Avatar and Odyns fury not stacking correctly, if you cast the other one first or something like that?

[oblique trail]

The Avatar buff stacks regardless of the order you use them in, the bleed and dancing blades buff however gets clipped massively if you use both at the same time they don't care either which order you use it in

[winter shoal]

If you send ava when OF bleed expires I think you end up losing like 2 seconds of DB uptime

The rest pandemics

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/JW6ZB/8abf87f8aa.png

big

[winter shoal]

[mossy fox]

bonk

[manic kettle]

cool thanks

[clever path]

did you get anything good from vault Crit

[mossy fox]

probably smold 489 weapon

[sudden tusk]

real

bro if you time out your orbs no smold

i was almost hitting 1mils

think 960k was my max

maybe might of the ocean could really juice it

[manic kettle]

I thought titanic rage was used over dancing blades?

[oblique trail]

I'll be honest

Might goes hard

[night dune]

It sure does

[winter shoal]

You can use it sometimes in keys but you'll play DB in raid every time. You also probably should use DB in keys too but you don't have to

DB is like 4% dam by itself so it really hurts to not take it

[silent burrow]

[uneven plaza]

100 Roll on Fyrakk Aug, feels giga good

[oblique trail]

smolderon cheater

[manic kettle]

ohhh okay thats good to know thanks!

[wanton flower]

agreed

[winter shoal]

I passed on 489 might from vault, surely I won't regret it

[urban tapir]

on my 4th run of throne today so far, no might yet

[olive wraith]

[oblique trail]

owned

[wanton flower]

holy

[silent burrow]

buff me

[winter shoal]

Legit question, do these numbers include aug buff?

Or are they already attributed by the time they appear on this view

[clever path]

prolly safe to assume thats all buffs included

[oblique trail]

I didn't have Ebon Might or Prescience there

[winter shoal]

Thicc

[clever path]

Banezi is GAMIN

[oblique trail]

yeah on a sick hc kill

[winter shoal]

HC Smolderon very important fight

[clever path]

[manic kettle]

Should i use my Reckless abandon stack over a execute?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[manic kettle]

thanks

[astral path]

im thinking i wanna go mechagnome fury warrior

[oblique trail]

diaper baby

[ember apex]

why so u can only transmog 3 items

sick

[astral path]

big chad dps

[ember apex]

oh if ur one of those diaper guys i guess it makes sense

i didnt even think about that

[ember apex]

😉

[past pivot]

Mecha was nerfed a while back

[ember apex]

he's one of those diaper guys* didnt u read banezi's comment

[wary sail]

diaper guys op

[astral path]

what the freak

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/mechagnome-gif-18097900

[astral path]

is it even worth it 😦

[oblique trail]

You can play most races without any noticeable DPS difference

You'd only see a noticeable difference if you compare the absolute top to the bottom

I.e human compared to Vulpera

[ember apex]

its not about dps for him, he's a diaper guy i'm pretty sure

[clever path]

what does vulpera even do

[winter shoal]

Don't let Syi see that

[ember apex]

vulpera does camp outs

[oblique trail]

I'd reroll to Vulpera

[clever path]

i feel like people choose it for different reasons

[oblique trail]

but like

3-4k dps

[ember apex]

u can go camping

[oblique trail]

is a lot

It might be even more since last I checked

[ember apex]

i go orc b/c transmog looks the best on them

they have a racial but it's irrelevant basically

[clever path]

i usually go belf or tauren

[winter shoal]

About 4k
https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/fury/races/castingpatchwerk

[ember apex]

humans also are good for transmog but they dual wield 2handers weird

dranei cool too but i dont like the hooves thing

[winter shoal]

The fact that dwarf is almost best dps while also having the best defensive racial is stupid

[ember apex]

or the tail stuff

whys tauren so poggers again

[winter shoal]

Crit buff right

[clever path]

yeah

tauren just OP

big cow go MOO

[winter shoal]

War stomp kinda poggies in keys too

[graceful dock]

are ppl still using algeth'ar puzzlebox? at 450 it sims like 2% better than my 470 trink O.o

[oblique trail]

holy gg

[ember apex]

i thought dwarf were crit buff

[ember apex]

450 puzzle box never existed

[oblique trail]

Vulpera somehow not the worst anymore

[ember apex]

link me an armory w/ a 450 puzzle box

oh wait

m0 algethar

is that 450

am i lying

[clever path]

i think M0 is 442?

[ember apex]

upgraded tho?

yeah

there it is

holy

ok sry about running my mouth earlier

[graceful dock]

did an m0 for weekly quest and it dropped

[ember apex]

a coworker got on my computer and said all that stuff

[gilded pawn]

Holy fk

[graceful dock]

nah its ok i was shocked i could even upgrade it to 450 lol

[ember apex]

its crazy round here

[olive wraith]

Oh man

Return of the box

[wary fjord]

Return of the box