#fury

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robust widget
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no

lavish sage
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no

robust widget
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i think SD proccs are treated as fillers right?

modest condor
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pumping out bloodbaths too strong

molten relic
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We used to raid mythic

lavish sage
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yes they are fillers

molten relic
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Anduin killed our raid

lavish sage
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new guild time

modest condor
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anduin killed like half of all CE guilds or something lol

molten relic
lavish sage
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lmao

molten relic
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I’m in wife jail

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No time for 3-4 raid nights

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Plus keys

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And other shit

lavish sage
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Sucks

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3-4 raid nights wtf

molten relic
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Been getting CE since legion in happy w that

molten relic
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And 4th was alt raid

lavish sage
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Oh fair

restive jungle
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what stats on a cloak would yall put? vers/mast or haste / mast

oblique trail
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Whichever sims the best but vers/mast will be better long term (generally)

molten relic
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We 478 ilvl lads

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On the come up

lavish sage
olive wraith
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fuk you bm

naive swallow
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gg, im the priest

proud basin
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what settings do we sim with for figuring out m+ aoe?

oblique trail
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1 target 5 min is fine for M+

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Outside of your CDs, your AoE is basically ST but hitting 5 targets

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So whatever is the best for ST is generally speaking almost as good for AoE

proud basin
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I have Augury/Might/Rezans/Brand and I gotta say I do like Might's burst aoe in keys

oblique trail
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Run Might + Augury

olive wraith
young swan
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^

oblique trail
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Very consistent and great throughput

naive swallow
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no

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fuck priest as well

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im a brownie , always

olive wraith
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Priest gave me pi

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I’ll heart them

icy panther
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fury pi best pi

proud basin
olive wraith
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Tbf there were 2 priest

oblique trail
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Crit is good in AoE

proud basin
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true

runic pine
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Blessed vault

oblique trail
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Because it increases your odds of OF CDR in multitarget

molten relic
rich marlin
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would you guys get crafted cloak or wrist first?

young swan
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do you not have both?

oblique trail
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I've done allied wrists into shadowflame cloak into crafted ring with flavour pocket tomorrow

marble stratus
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^

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what he said

rich marlin
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got ya

runic pine
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gaming

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straight up gamer gaming

marble stratus
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Who let him in here

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lol

oblique trail
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I get augury/brand tomorrow

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it's fine

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will let you ahve it for now

marble stratus
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You take it back @runic pine sadge

runic pine
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🙏

runic pine
oblique trail
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I got 2 mythic slots

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it's gg

naive swallow
oblique trail
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bench me this week for everything but prog bosses

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ty

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Activate Windows

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does a lot of ddps

marble stratus
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i had full heroic and 3 myth tracks... no trinket, no big weap. Just upgrade my chest from heroic to myth track /sigh

naive swallow
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yep , im playing withOUT windows

night dune
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That has such a threatening aura to it

naive swallow
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windows succ , better get em nerfed asap

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spec differences 2023 huh

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jesus christ

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46th tides btw , at some point i even toggled off the meter , just to keep sanity

strange pivot
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what u get from tides

naive swallow
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-273 celsius

oblique trail
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unreachable temperature moment

late ivy
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is it worth to craft wep for my spark?

oblique trail
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not really no

late ivy
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been running rise all week still using champion wep til now xd

oblique trail
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First boss mythic drops a myth track weapon, and you can otherwise farm for hero track weapons

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Generally recommended to use your sparks on embellishments first

naive swallow
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unreachable that is , indeed

sudden tusk
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demonbane oesnt seem very useful

proud bough
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Because the difference between Lariat and the next best embellished item was massive. I just followed the sims idk

runic pine
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part of me wants to just be lazy and not bother swapping out brand in keys

sudden tusk
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brand is still good on high keys and bosses

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its just kinda meh otherwise

runic pine
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augury def replacing my crab in keys tho

late ivy
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what are the best embellishments to craft for m+ aside from the wrist?

sudden tusk
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shadowlame cloak

runic pine
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augury+might is gonna be juicy in keys

sudden tusk
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or lariot

restive jungle
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these stats rough?

sudden tusk
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hmmge

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hmmge

oblique trail
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Augury and Might is indeed very juice for keys

sudden tusk
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i can confirm

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its very very juice

runic pine
sudden tusk
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which one

late ivy
sudden tusk
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lariot only for M+ and thats a maybe

south kayak
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@chrome plover Master Marskman talent is insane on Survival lmao

oblique trail
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It's good when you have full sockets

late ivy
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ok thanks

oblique trail
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Would probably use Allied Wrists + Lariat whenever for M+

sudden tusk
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there are also ver ywell statted necks this tier

oblique trail
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And if you have full sockets

sudden tusk
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but ill prob swap lariot at the end

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a

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what do you think ban. Myth wep or leech helm

oblique trail
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I still don't think Shadowflame is meaningful enough for M+ to make a big difference

restive jungle
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so earthern writ is simming better than wafting or sohpioc

sudden tusk
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alsmot wana go leech helm for long term

oblique trail
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err

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I'm not much of a tertiary gamer, but would probably just kill Gnarlroot first if you want to really min/max

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then pick

sudden tusk
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its probably still a gorehowl angle since the effect can do something in M+

sudden tusk
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but the effect is dog

oblique trail
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Yeah although it's only BRH and DHT

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If only we got timestrike

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But wcyd

sudden tusk
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i like how

oblique trail
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Fury would be too broken gg

south kayak
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dhs are even stronger in brh and dht

sudden tusk
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almost every SINGLE wep

south kayak
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20% damage increase

sudden tusk
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has timestrike

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but outs

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ours

south kayak
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get owned

oblique trail
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Doesn't and it's unique equipped

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gg

sudden tusk
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even the str one hander has a better effect

south kayak
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smh when

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smf

runic pine
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tf does timestrike even do

sudden tusk
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im starting to become a leech gamer no meme

south kayak
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your weapon hits an additional time

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chance

oblique trail
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It's like a little duplicate damage proc

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Or something

sudden tusk
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though avoidance is probably still better

oblique trail
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Personally would always go Avoid if possible

molten relic
sudden tusk
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its basically a 1% dam increase

south kayak
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yeah true

sudden tusk
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for a random stat

runic pine
oblique trail
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Mitigating damage > healing damage

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imo

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And Fury already has giga rot sustain

sudden tusk
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yeah in higher keys

south kayak
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^

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real

sudden tusk
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especially

runic pine
sudden tusk
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fury is so crazy tanky

covert coyote
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Isn’t Leech like our worst tert now since we spam BT?

sudden tusk
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i dont even care about spitefuls

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i just eat them

south kayak
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i remember when tertiary stats were insane in legion

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unfortunate

runic pine
south kayak
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30% leech

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or what have you

oblique trail
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Speed isn't super insane either all things considered

south kayak
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speed used to be insane in legion

sudden tusk
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i like speed alot as a stat

south kayak
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could get like 40%

runic pine
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speed should be better

oblique trail
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Since Enrage gives you 10% move speed, and Wafting procs also give speed

south kayak
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or something on normal gear

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but blizzard just made thost stats way worse

oblique trail
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Like

molten relic
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I have 123% base move speed rn

sudden tusk
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gonna swap a wafting for a sophic i think

oblique trail
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Watching everyone struggle on 3rd boss DHT

runic pine
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blizz buff speed when

sudden tusk
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for aoe

molten relic
oblique trail
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Meanwhile I'm having to stop moving to not walk through him

sudden tusk
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time to fix those tyr scores

runic pine
restive jungle
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gamer

sudden tusk
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didnt have 4 set 2 weeks ago

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its gamer time

molten relic
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Those are keys

runic pine
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fuckin making me look like ass

south kayak
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and it's 100% crit chance

molten relic
sudden tusk
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to be fair most of the reason i have all these timed keys

chrome plover
sudden tusk
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is because i randomly qued into a 4 stack of title holders

south kayak
sudden tusk
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and we didnt fail a key for like 4 hours

south kayak
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is it going with survival

chrome plover
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4p goes giga

south kayak
runic pine
chrome plover
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already doing decent overalls with 2p at 459 tho

south kayak
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im 437 on my hunter atm

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bm

sudden tusk
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tbh its always harder to get into keys if you dont have super high IO early

south kayak
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waiting for 4p to play survival

molten relic
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I don’t pug keys

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Least not 20+

sudden tusk
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90% of my keys are pugs

runic pine
sudden tusk
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only 2 guildies actually M_

molten relic
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I just pug 17-20 for flight stones/crests

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Rest I do guild group

shrewd vale
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at 2 piece do we switch to annihalator build?

sudden tusk
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no

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2p 2p bad

molten relic
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Have some 22 and 23 timed

sudden tusk
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wait for 4p and play arms til then

molten relic
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Got 4 portals I think yesterday

shrewd vale
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never

molten relic
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But first season back since SL seasoj 4

runic pine
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I mean I'm probably going to be over 2900 after fixing some of these tyran keys this week easily

south kayak
runic pine
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Like I got 3 tryans at 18

south kayak
molten relic
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I did fuckall for keys in week 1

south kayak
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i don't push

molten relic
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Think I have a 2 waycrest

lethal cradle
molten relic
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And a 2 throne

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Will easily do rest of my 20s this week

south kayak
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last one was bomb

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season 3 SL was bomb

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BOMB

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YOU GET BOMB

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EVERYONE GETS BOMB

stiff barn
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Cos bomb goes boom

runic pine
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honestly I didn't expect to like annihilator fury as much as I do

marble schooner
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maybe if Survival had more than 3 spells

night dune
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Either raidbots is on some nutty shit or my stats are way more slanted than I first thought because it's saying both tindral neck and a 476 Ring of Contempt are downgrades

marble schooner
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they could have tier bonus variety

oblique trail
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Anni is fine when you get used to it

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Not super exciting and fun but it's not boring and unlikeable either

chrome plover
covert coyote
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Better than S1 anni

agile tiger
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Do yall have a simulationcraft code for crafting all stats on a ring?

runic pine
oblique trail
marble schooner
night dune
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Our roto just feels the same as tier 30 without having to sweat overcapping as much tbh

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CD burst > BB/RB + ramp loop > that one CD you save for a few seconds

tepid scroll
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Won it in a 30 man

night dune
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Yowza

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(Also use your axe token)

tepid scroll
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Think its worth using razans / augury or might / augury?

oblique trail
odd whale
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2 raid trinkets this week, but only mythic pips and mythic coil sadge. I’m really hurting myself unlocking the second mythic slot, I should probably bench myself so I can make sure I get 2X heroic chances at signet and augury.

meager gyro
oblique trail
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In raid you can sim it

gaunt sonnet
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Are the only CDs fury really dependent on recklessness and odyn’s fury? Like, if I hit those on CD, I’m good?

Also, does using an ability still reset the swing timer (outside of slam)? Meaning if I have the Odyn’s Fury buff, I should try to not reset the timer and instead use abilities at the start of it?

oblique trail
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Abilities don't interact with the swing timer

gaunt sonnet
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Trying to figure out if I want to swap over to fury from arms, just trying to gauge the number of things I need to learn/relearn, lol

oblique trail
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And as for CDs, you currently have 4 CDs being Reck, OF, Avatar and Roar/Spear

marble schooner
oblique trail
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I mean

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If you can heroic throw you're not in melee range to begin with

tepid scroll
gaunt sonnet
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Ya, I’m just worried about dropping DPS mainly.

amber tinsel
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is this details look go ?? i'm actually struggling to up my dps with 463 gear level
here a overall waycrest manor +20 (157k dps)

gaunt sonnet
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Or like, playing suboptimally in such a way that arms > fury for me.

oblique trail
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If you haven't touched Fury at all after S2 (or ever), then there's a fair bit to get a hang of

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But it's not super complicated either

gaunt sonnet
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I mained prot for S2, fury was my DPS spec.

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Just relearned arms after like 12 years for S3

marble schooner
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you just have to have ADHD to play fury

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buttons go brrrr

night dune
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Or hand tremors

oblique trail
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Generally speaking getting your opener down (which changes slightly based on Dancing Blades or Titanic Rage) and understanding the priority will get you very far

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And the priority is fairly simple

night dune
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ez pz apm capper okayge

marble schooner
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RN I realized that macroing Might with Reck is way better than macroing it to Ava, after running like 10 20-21s sadge

gaunt sonnet
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Yeah, it is, okay. Just wanted to make sure there wasn’t something I was missing about the whole auto attack buffs/annihilator aspect I was missing.

oblique trail
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Not at all

night dune
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Wouldn't macroing it to Odyn's be the optimal play since that's when the ball REALLY gets rolling without being too late in the opener/CD window?

oblique trail
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No, because you don't always want to use the trinket when you want to OF

night dune
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Fair

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plus the CD synergy would get messed with ig

marble schooner
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is Ava really the play? macroing to ava makes so I have to hold roar till I Ava

oblique trail
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You can do it but it's just not a good way to practice muscle memory and you need to have a separate bind either way

oblique trail
marble schooner
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so like Rek>Charge>Ramp>OF>BB>Ramp>BB>Ava>Roar etc

winter shoal
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Yes depending on your haste

marble schooner
oblique trail
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I personally do have it macro'd to Avatar, but I also have a separate bind that I use before OF in my opener or whenever it makes sense mid pull

gaunt sonnet
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Holla. Thanks all. I just need to practice then. Oh, last question - CD usage. Is it pretty much as they come off cooldown outside of the opener?

runic pine
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Odyns Fury owns

gaunt sonnet
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Except for known burn phases/adds

winter shoal
gaunt sonnet
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Perfect. I won’t worry about that then. I think that’s what I was concerned with the most.

oblique trail
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OF has an average of 20-25 second ish CD with the CDR so you want to just use it as often as possible

oblique trail
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Since holding can quickly add up to lost casts

compact knot
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same with shattering

gaunt sonnet
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Right. The way I played fury last season was “hit the buttons that are lighting up and coming off CD”, and that’s arms for me as well, for the most part.

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Just didn’t wanna re-train to not hit shit as it comes up. Haha.

oblique trail
oblique trail
marble schooner
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aight so basically I have to practice having Might/On use stat trinkets bound also separately in case I need them for ST Opener in raids or M+ Bosses

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makes sense

night dune
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Wait is the opener thing premium-only I can't see it

oblique trail
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If you do have OF ready for mid pull, you'll do your CD usage as the opener would. If you don't have OF ready then you just Reck -> Ava -> Roar/Spear

gaunt sonnet
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Right, yeah. Don’t doublecast OF and Avatar, and make sure Recklesness is up before either of those

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Yep yep, sweet, okay.

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I should be set then. Just need to rearrange my WAs to make more logical sense with my binds and I oughta be good. Thanks!

oblique trail
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Np, good luck with it

lofty scroll
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hey i change my missive to mast/vers on my titanic inight and im ilvl 470. is that fine?

runic pine
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I wish the crafting droptimizer would just do all stat combos instead of manually having to run like 5 different sims

oblique trail
lofty scroll
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ok i will check. ty

ocean thunder
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i need some help

runic pine
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good lord

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a 486 belt craft is worth almost 3k dps

winter shoal
ocean thunder
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in the vault i got a a really good sword and my BIS pants, which one should i do? the BIS or the higher ilvl sword?

night dune
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Are the pants tier

ocean thunder
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yeah

oblique trail
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Weapons usually take the highest priority if it's an ilvl/track increase

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Since they're the biggest single increase you can get

winter shoal
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Run a top gear sim to see which gives more dam, and consider whether you'll be able to get similar pieces from m+ and/or catalyst

oblique trail
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But yes, do a top gear sim and it'll tell you more than we can without knowing more

night dune
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I'd go with the weapon then since you can use catalyst to get the pants later anyway then but yeah sim yourself always

whole silo
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what should we craft now after our embellishments?

oblique trail
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Personally crafting a ring with flavour pocket

whole silo
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i was thinking of doing the same

night dune
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Engineering drip Hydrate

gaunt sonnet
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I was thinking of doing my belt with the pocket.

ocean thunder
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dont kill me for this, but how do i do a top gear sim??

oblique trail
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If you've never simmed before, there are guides for it

ocean thunder
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oh lol alright

serene moat
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Flavour ring ofc! okayge

night dune
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I'd go flavor pocket too but for some reason it's still extortionate on my realm and AH isn't treating me kindly

marble schooner
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Imagine having crafted weapon because you are dumb and didnt check crafted ilvl nerfs before crafting peepo

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im not even using said weapon atm

runic pine
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hmmmmm is this a ring craft angle?

marble schooner
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at least i can finally upgrade one of my shadowflame pieces from 447 prayge

oblique trail
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I would craft ring personally, but I also have the DHT belt

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Which sims giga for me atm

tacit crag
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I have 483 augury and 483 ocean but droptimizer is saying 483 crab is better than augury, is that real or fake?

oblique trail
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And flavour pocket value is like

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600~dps

rotund steppe
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imagine not running flavour pocket

oblique trail
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(this is the most subjective opinion I've had)

true sapphire
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Flavor packet BIS

night dune
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It may be weighing more in favor of crab depending on how your base mastery is

oblique trail
tacit crag
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I have 5k mastery with hissing runes. I'm simming for 5t

oblique trail
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Would not use crab over augury for M+

tacit crag
runic pine
oblique trail
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Yeah I wouldn't really trust M+/AoE sims personally

night dune
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Speaking of m+ trinkets is branch asking me to get myself killed or can I theoretically use up the roots fast enough for it to not matter

tacit crag
night dune
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I feel like it'll curse me to a stupid-looking Throne death if I put it on for keys

tacit crag
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I wasn't gonna farm crab regardless but just confused why it was suggesting it

oblique trail
night dune
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Cuz mastery dope as fuck

oblique trail
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(I am currently doing this send help DHT is not fun)

runic pine
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oof

true sapphire
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Got myth track DHT belt with sock in vault last week. Blessed.

rotund steppe
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rip

oblique trail
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I got the ring and belt

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But just farming for socket

forest knot
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Any fat vaults

rotund steppe
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got the nymune neck :/

night dune
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Got rid of my last s2 item if that counts

rotund steppe
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i dont

raw nest
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how fucked am I if I do SMF instead of TG? I saw 8% somewhere in here and just jesus that's a lotta damage to leave on the table

rotund steppe
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still have anvil

raw nest
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but also I'm prot mainspec and setting up Fury offspec for M+ when I don't want to deal with tanking Fortified weeks

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and fuuuuck I don't want to have to fill four weapon slots with four diff pieces of gear

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otoh prot and fury want polar opposite gear so I'm fucked anyway

night dune
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See that's what alts are for

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one toon of every spec so you don't have to sweat farming BiS across all three specs on one guy

raw nest
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actually, how terrible is haste/vers on Fury

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I know it's not good

tacit crag
night dune
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Precisely!

raw nest
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but there's "a few percent" and "haha have fun doing more than 100k aoe"

tacit crag
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One toon is better for farming because you can get high io on it then every 20 takes you since you're 3k io

night dune
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LATAM pug leaders can't POSSIBLY decline someone with KSM three times over! /s

compact knot
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atal last boss fucks on tyrannical

night dune
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As it's always been

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Yazma does NOT piss around at all

raw nest
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also it means that when I'm farming for Prot gear and get drops I don't want, oh wait that's fury gear!

gaunt sonnet
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How much worse are the allied plate wrists over the primal molten + shadow flame ones?

night dune
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Esp in comparison to the other bosses in that place

gaunt sonnet
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I already crafted the allied plate.

gaunt sonnet
compact knot
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it performs better on aoe bosses

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and will probably scale better as we get more gear

runic pine
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bro fuck me

ocean thunder
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i did the sim but i still dont know what to choose

runic pine
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flavor pocket is 70k

winter shoal
robust widget
fast zealot
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Any good reckless macros?

deep niche
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/cast reckless

night dune
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Can't macro it to nothing now

unreal onyx
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especially in m+

night dune
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Besides racials ig

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And tabard of the lightbringer

late ivy
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how are ur stats looking guys?

naive swallow
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looking bright

deep niche
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Good

winter shoal
naive swallow
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looking like im gonna go somewhere

robust widget
deep niche
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You guys use main stat food?

naive swallow
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u know, "this city's gonna break my heart , this city's gonna love me and leave a alone"

winter shoal
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I'm just shitposting tbf

robust widget
deep niche
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Versa + mastery sims better

strong tusk
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Who would you say does more dmg in m+ in aoe. Frost DK. Fury war or ret pally. All with legendary

winter shoal
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Rn vers/mast/haste are all pretty equal for me

naive swallow
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frost isnt bad ngl

robust widget
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whats your crit at

late ivy
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is my haste too high?

night dune
naive swallow
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looks comfy to me

winter shoal
deep niche
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If you have 4p new then yes

night dune
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I think I need to offload some of the first two

winter shoal
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That's what top gear has me at rn

robust widget
robust widget
night dune
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Yeah looking at everyone else's idk what the fuck is up with it

spiral oasis
naive swallow
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lmfao

winter shoal
past pivot
robust widget
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ah

lyric panther
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For fast to die adds on mythic like spears on Igira and Treants on Larodar, what are people doing? Ended up doing pre WW > reck > Ava > OF to get the back to back OF for the initial hits, as they dont really live long enough to get the most out of DB

runic pine
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@oblique trail ring was def the move over belt

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sheeeeesh

coarse nest
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Tbf Sim isn’t always the answer because my top gear tells me everything from dungeons is a .2% gain or less when I could do a total stat shift and gain about 10k dps

coarse nest
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My fury sims 197k when my co war in guild sims 210

flat river
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Sup

coarse nest
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The only difference is stats

winter shoal
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I'd just do your regular cd timing and pre-ww the adds

coarse nest
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We’re both 480 with identical trinkets

winter shoal
runic pine
hardy monolith
winter shoal
#

Your stats must be turbo fucked

hardy monolith
#

lol

#

u simmin wrong talents most likely

#

against his

runic pine
#

cuz that sounds like WFT diff

flat river
#

I have 46% mastery and 23% vers critcake

naive swallow
#

what should be our st dps at , say 480

coarse nest
#

Correct, my stats are fucked

#

My point is sims don’t exactly tell you how to fix that

night dune
#

Wait why does Raidbots have different settings in craft droptimizer for inverted missives (mast/vers whereas harmonious gives vers/mast) don't tell me that makes a difference

coarse nest
#

Droptimizer shows all .2% gains or less

coarse nest
#

You have to apply some logic to your gearing as well

hardy monolith
night dune
flat river
#

Good luck with leggo this week boiz 🙏

naive swallow
#

476 , what in the actual fuck

winter shoal
night dune
#

Aoe talents on patchwork though

oblique trail
naive swallow
#

ye , i guess it makes sense

spiral oasis
#

Bwaha

oblique trail
naive swallow
#

these days im waee too rusty to care like i used to

coarse nest
#

The only difference is our stats

runic pine
coarse nest
#

I’m min mixed for arms so it makes sense that I sim pretty poorly for fury

naive swallow
#

basically full M+ thingy , so doesnt matter , bound to be low

coarse nest
#

I toss on a few pieces that top gear says are better for fury that I have in bags

#

But again 197-210

#

Stats matter

winter shoal
coarse nest
#

And top gear doesn’t always fix it

#

Droptimizer either

naive swallow
#

enjoying bit 2much ngl LMAO

night dune
#

I'd point out lariat but since people seem to be wrapping up BIS this week or close to it I think it's not too big a deal

winter shoal
#

What is going on with your neck

#

Crit/haste with pure crit gems

naive swallow
#

im indifferent with my choices

#

i know

night dune
#

Defo made for arms first

winter shoal
#

Even arms doesn't want pure crit gems

naive swallow
#

ye , started crafting my set for arms

unreal onyx
#

just did my fastest key this season

winter shoal
#

Arms almost always wants haste > crit gems

unreal onyx
#

dht 21, first pull and we left the key

naive swallow
#

ehh , ill switch to more fury stuffy later ony

dry talon
#

anyone with porcelain crab ??

naive swallow
#

wow , guess im ONE interesting wayor

winter shoal
sudden tusk
#

anyone having issues where alts arent showing main io

#

havent been able to fix it

iron leaf
#

what are yall using the catalyst charge on if you already had 4pc?

winter shoal
sudden tusk
#

yeah

oblique trail
sudden tusk
#

they even show alt of X

oblique trail
#

I.e going from hero to myth track tier pieces

naive swallow
#

idk off pieces every try hard sims when close to full bis

night dune
#

Speaking of stat prio do we use hissing runes now instead of howling or something else entirely

naive swallow
#

yep , hiss it

oblique trail
#

Just use hissing at all times

wind furnace
#

What are warriors doing for 3rd crafted piece?

naive swallow
#

god couldnt even look at tides keys , wanna vomit

oblique trail
#

You can do sims to check where in edge cases you might find buzzing/howling to be slightly ahead, but generally hissing will always be the best option

night dune
#

kk

restive peak
keen stone
#

Tides Key sould just let me reroll it and downgrade it 1 key and save myself the trouble

naive swallow
#

ill loot it for u , for safety

oblique trail
#

Give me brand + crafted ring + myth tier gloves now

keen cradle
#

What is fury's BIS weapon to go along side the legendary? Gnarl/Legendary or Gorehowl/Legendary? Maybe a different combo? Thanks!

oblique trail
#

and I will reahc new heights

naive swallow
#

bit too glowy , must be hot

naive swallow
#

imma craft ring as well

#

too gd not to

oblique trail
#

On paper they're both very close to each other

#

So it wont matter too much which you got

vestal stirrup
#

Hugeeee

keen cradle
#

Thanks Banezi

naive swallow
#

is there no versa mast ring whatsoever?

steep fable
#

If I upgrade the wristguards of companionship, does the amount of vers per player increase as well? Or is it a static 73 no matter the level?

oblique trail
naive swallow
#

jeez

oblique trail
#

At 486 it's 76 per ally

steep fable
naive swallow
#

is the wristguard worth it tho , im thinking of the crit haste it's defaulted to

oblique trail
#

The vers it gives more than makes up for it

amber geyser
#

hello Fury warriors! It's been ages since i've played. Is it still best to be in Arms loot spec for vault or do we open as Fury for the 1h fyrakk weapon chance?

oblique trail
#

Yes

olive wraith
#

arms loot

oblique trail
#

Still open in Arms

modern shoal
#

Open as Arms as long as you need a 2h

oblique trail
#

The 1h is not good enough to really go for unless you want to play SMF (which is still not better but playable)

amber geyser
#

🫡

modest condor
#

2h+1h is better than 1h+1h keks

modern shoal
#

I like opening as fury as soon as I don't need a 2H, but that's because I m+ prot sometimes

oblique trail
#

yeah..

amber geyser
#

wasn't sure if the 1h fyrakk weapons were strong enough to merit a loot spec swap. I shall chase the mythic Gorehowl of lore

oblique trail
#

The 2h+fyrakk axe lore is a bit sketch

naive swallow
#

im saving sets where i swing 2h on main hand and 1h on off hand

#

bit better for balance

oblique trail
#

But also kinda funny that it's so close to a 2hander offhand as well

amber geyser
#

I mean if you're going to play Warrior why not use 2 2h that's just the most warrior thing imaginable

oblique trail
#

You'd think that

#

And then you'd be surprised how many people want to play SMF

amber geyser
#

o.O

agile tiger
#

They only want to play it because you dont play it

naive swallow
#

i for one , put great emphasis on 2h-1h

agile tiger
#

If it became mainstream i dont think the idea would be popular lol

naive swallow
#

good mog , u'd be surprise

agile tiger
#

Like telling someone not to push the red button

strange pivot
#

do you guys use leech enchant for wrist?

amber geyser
oblique trail
#

Fury already has enough rot heal through 5% baseline leech from tree and BT spam

#

So mitigating damage > healing damage

strange pivot
#

yeah using avoidance but was wondering if i should switch

naive swallow
#

crab 6% , my weap 6% , kinda juice

#

one more piece im hitting 20% on and off

amber geyser
#

does Demonbane on Gorehowl actually do anything? Or we just like it for the mastery heavy stats? (and it looks cool)

late yacht
#

Do we want our on-use trinket macro’d to recklessness or avatar? Does it matter?

oblique trail
#

Which is only applicable in DHT/BRH

strange pivot
amber geyser
hybrid bobcat
pure depot
compact knot
#

your trinkets and weapons arent that great, also in a aoe spec

#

no leg or chest enchant

#

no primary stat gem

#

and using double earthen writ, thats all the issues i can see from a glance

sage depot
#

where are my vault socket brothers at? 5/6 options were embellishment slots

sage depot
#

suffer now for pog loot later right... right

dawn pumice
#

My first vault on my warrior was all the tier I had just last minute grabbed from heroic and the trinket off gnarlroot that I have already, I was hoping for a wep or 4pc to catalyze

lime pelican
pure depot
compact knot
#

no way sim said that was the best huh

#

use double wafting or wafting and sophic

pure depot
#

aha okok

fickle bluff
#

and thats devotion, not writ

compact knot
#

^^^^6

oblique trail
desert cloud
#

should i run wrecking throw for tindral

oblique trail
#

I and other people have had at least 1 earthen writ sim the best

desert cloud
#

or not worth

spiral ridge
#

atm its double sophic for me

hardy monolith
compact knot
#

hmm

marble schooner
#

is wrecking throw really not padding in Fyrakk?

#

I feel like its soo gready

oblique trail
#

It's not padding

#

The shield has to die

unreal onyx
#

how is that padding?

#

it's optimising dps

modest condor
#

singletarget padding

fading bane
#

i use ST talents on ST fight to pad

oblique trail
#

meat cleaver wrecking throw when

marble schooner
#

yah but you lose a good deal of survivability vs a 1 time use damage

fading bane
#

can drop cruel strikes

#

it dont do much

oblique trail
fading bane
#

its -overall dmg + prio dmg

oblique trail
#

Idk about double earthen but at the very least 1 earthen is an increase

unreal onyx
#

benzai

rotund ginkgo
#

@young swan

unreal onyx
#

will I get a weap tomorrow in vault

compact knot
#

what the fuck bruh

#

ok i need to check

oblique trail
unreal onyx
#

weap is the only thing i desperately need

marble schooner
#

not that complicated

#

zzz

wild mica
#

i dont even want a weapon, im just that confident that im getting legendary today

left perch
unreal onyx
#

real

#

sadly

#

I am 5/9m with ashkandur so far

#

let's see how far it can take me

wet acorn
#

qq; does reflecting virulent pathogen place the buff on everyone now for some reason? just had it happen

oblique trail
#

Yes

#

It's the same with unstable hex from the witch doctors in atal dazar

#

Don't reflect it

unreal onyx
#

reflect it if you don't want dmg ratge

wild mica
#

or reflect it and laugh

oblique trail
#

It basically puts an invisible debuff on the target that spreads to players after he explodes with it

unreal onyx
#

and not care about team

compact knot
#

ok so im fine from the earthen writ

#

its close asf tho damn

#

thought wafting and sophic just cleared

marble schooner
#

reflecting crushing depths feels so giga good

oblique trail
#

It's like +700 for me

#

Sophic in general is going to be better for M+

#

But I personally don't care enough to change enchants betwen M+ and raid 👴

compact knot
#

burning writ in m+?

digital tundra
#

what are u guys crafting after embelishments? rings?

oblique trail
#

Ring with flavour pocket

unreal onyx
#

^

compact knot
#

rings kinda not the greatest this tier, i just did a ring with socket and pocket

unreal onyx
#

not having pocket is annoying

compact knot
#

tru

unreal onyx
#

I lost mine last week with an upgrade

#

but now I see how good it was

oblique trail
#

Just dont die

unreal onyx
#

definetly worth 50k

digital tundra
crystal summit
#

don't lose food buff when you die

spare otter
#

wtf is pocket?

marble schooner
digital tundra
#

im so confused lmao

oblique trail
digital tundra
#

oooo

oblique trail
#

It's a quality of life embellishment that doesn't count towards the limit

digital tundra
#

okay thanks

eternal sundial
#

@clever path its time

clever path
#

usually weps get upgraded first

clever path
eternal sundial
#

yea

flat river
#

@syi

clever path
#

ahh gotcha, i was like damn this guy is raiding early

flat river
#

What happened to syi

eternal sundial
#

nothing

#

@wild mural

pure depot
flat river
#

Why couldn't i @ him

unreal onyx
#

surely today clueless

eternal sundial
flat river
#

Bru

#

@wild mural

unreal onyx
#

in the 8.3% try ashkandur did 1.7% overall

flat river
fickle bluff
unreal onyx
#

real

latent ledge
thin steeple
#

Got cataclymic from vault pog! did weekly got it again.... =/

latent ledge
uneven lantern
#

are there diminishing returns with mastery

oblique trail
#

There are with every stat

uneven lantern
#

where is the sweat spot for mastery?

oblique trail
#

The best amount is whatever sims the best for you in top gear

#

There is no set amount of stats you have to reach or want

uneven lantern
#

ok thanks

brittle crow
#

in the aoe opener am i supposed to use avatar to refresh whirlwind or to not let my first odyns drop?

#

cant do both cuz u can't fit 4 melees+ roar in the first odyns window

true sapphire
#

OF, ramp, bt, ramp, bt, avatar, Roar, ramp/bt I think it is

oblique trail
#

Losing 1 WW stack if you're running Titanic Rage is way less of a loss than dropping Avatar

#

And otherwise you just want to WW before going into your CD window if you're not using Titanic then refresh when you need it

brittle crow
#

wasting a ww charge it is

flat river
#

I honestly think alot more people would be inclined to play SMH if it was baseline

clever path
#

smf will never be a thing

past pivot
#

Shake my head?

clever path
#

thats smh

#

oh gala said smh rofl

flat river
#

Yeah but what i mean is

#

Oh lol

#

I meant SMF

#

Anyways what i mean is if they buff it people would try it

fickle bluff
#

blizzard dont want people to play it

past pivot
#

Oh, no one in their right mind will play something inferior. It's a meme and always will be

fickle bluff
#

it only exists because a minority would complain loudly if it didnt

heady sun
#

People who alternate between fury/arms depending on boss fight do you carry around two separate sets of gear / gems / whatever? Asking because the sim difference between arms and fury is like 12k using the same gear.

wild mural
clever path
#

ive seen ppl use smf in wpvp but thats it

flat river
past pivot
wild mural
flat river
teal valve
#

What you guys will craft with the new spark ?

past pivot
flat river
teal valve
#

Im thinking about ring, cause socket

flat river
wild mural
clever path
past pivot
heady sun
flat river
clever path
#

my warrior does have a third arm... xeos

flat river
#

They should let fury warrior triple wield

#

Like zoro from one piece

clever path
#

just give us four like the robot from starwars

flat river
#

BiS

flat river
#

OMG GIVE THAT TO US AS AN ABILITY

#

That would be so cool

wild mural
#

Pile On

flat river
#

Instead of having mirror images from warcraft 3

#

U confuse the enemy with a billion swords

#

And deal big dmg

wild mural
#

Pile On

flat river
#

Rework it to Reckless Abandon

unreal onyx
#

syi, raid today?

wild mural
#

No

#

2 day team

unreal onyx
#

did you kill nymue yet?

wild mural
#

Nope

#

We kill it weds

unreal onyx
#

real?

wild mural
#

On reclear

leaden jungle
#

who can be so kind to link me the simc string of Unstable Frostfire Belt?

wild mural
#

Real

leaden jungle
#

or a site where I can find it

unreal onyx
#

wowhead

leaden jungle
#

nop

unreal onyx
#

yes

#

or what simc string do you mean?

leaden jungle
#

oh never seen it

#

u are a god

#

❤️

unreal onyx
wild mural
#

If the Rat Pack was a 3 day guild we’d be too powerful for our own good

sage talon
#

is Pip sims still broken? is it good?

wild mural
past pivot
chrome plover
sage talon
terse ether
#

i ASSume tomorrow we go for ring?

past pivot
chrome plover
#

reset for eu

sage talon
#

I'm just wondering about Pip's because I think I read somewhere the sim is still not good

past pivot
#

Oh. Y'all behind the times. We already have the flavor pocket cooking

chrome plover
hardy cargo
#

the point of flavor pocket is to not cook tho D:

hardy cargo
sage talon
clever path
#

i have it, just not put on a piece of gear yet

past pivot
terse ether
#

😦

#

send one here 😛

chrome plover
gusty cloak
#

what we using the 3rd spark on?

clever path
#

axekandi says ring with packet

past pivot
#

For QOL at least.

clever path
#

i like it

#

ill probs do it

#

or maybe the aoe M+ wrists

#

not sure if those are necessary yet though

ashen socket
gusty cloak
#

i got bracers and cloak, donno what to do with 3rd spark

sage depot
#

ring

ashen socket
past pivot
timid forge
#

what you guys using spark on ? ring ?

past pivot
sage depot
#

5/6 vault options where embellishment slots so socket day it is

unreal onyx
#

ring with pocket

deep niche
#

For mog item

clever path
#

ive seen 3 ppl ask about where to use spark while we were talking about it rofl, does no one read?

deep niche
#

Zug zug

unreal onyx
#

you actually think people read previous messages here?

gusty cloak
#

we are zugheads afterall

sage depot
#

im just zugging along

unreal onyx
#

must be new to discord

clever path
gusty cloak
#

sims say JC trink

deep niche
#

Then go for trinket

unreal onyx
#

definetly not

past pivot
#

People only read when they can take something out of context and either get bent out of sorts for no reason, or to pass on incorrect information.

runic pine
#

Augury owns

molten relic
#

Look at this fuckin guy

#

Big boy damage

#

Big boy trinkets

unreal onyx
#

yalnu pad

runic pine
olive wraith
#

“I got nerfed hard bro”

clever path
#

did they release a blue post for the dh nerf yet?

olive wraith
#

The one from last week?

clever path
#

i thought there was supposed to be another today

olive wraith
#

Last week was for reset today I believe

drifting reef
#

is there a way to sim a crafted item with a different missive on it?

olive wraith
#

It wasn’t a hotfix afaik

clever path
#

ahhh, went live today?

olive wraith
#

I think so

drifting reef
#

I can't get it to change the base stats

olive wraith
#

“Create” an item then duplicate with different stats

drifting reef
#

or I don't know how. I can add enchants and gems, but not change the missive type

olive wraith
#

On gear compare?

drifting reef
#

yeah

#

let me try again

olive wraith
#

Or you talking about top gear

clever path
#

you probably have too many things selected

runic pine
# unreal onyx yalnu pad

still comes out to 224k overall and that's including the time on Yalnu and excluding all the damage done to him

drifting reef
olive wraith
#

Allied wrist can’t change stats

drifting reef
#

ohhhh

#

it comes preset

#

derp

fading bane
#

man tindral is such an insane fight

drifting reef
fading bane
#

fly up and kamikaze go brr

sullen dove
olive wraith
#

Crab ain’t bad

clever path
#

what does spores do

olive wraith
#

How’s your neck

sullen dove
#

got 483 brand and 489 augury

olive wraith
#

Oh

#

Well crab could be m+’trink

sullen dove
#

have a 476 dht neck im bout to upgrade to 483 most likely so idk if neck is that much crazier

inland flame
#

Spores is a big haste on use

sullen dove
#

have might of the ocean too

#

yea im not looking at spore

olive wraith
#

Oh damn

sullen dove
#

rly between neck/crab/483 chest

clever path
#

id go crab

coarse nest
#

Prob myth chest imo

olive wraith
#

I guess neck then honestly

coarse nest
#

Neck also decent since your trinkets proc it

inland flame
#

Myth track chest is p big if you still hero.

sullen dove
#

yer sadga

olive wraith
#

Could always catalyst myth chest next week I guess

#

I get a juicy tertiary

runic otter
#

Is whitefin axe any good? It's haste crit. Got 480 in vault. Only have 2x 376 brh weapons right now

sullen dove
#

i also am just absolutely fiending for mastery so dropping 1k mastery on neck for 1k verse while it would be good rn seems a little sus

#

tho im bout to craft a ring so thatll help a bit

oblique trail
#

Weapons on a higher track will always be good

olive wraith
#

Any weapon is good

oblique trail
#

Regardless of the stats on it

strong zephyr
#

i hate this

inland flame
#

Someone tell this guy about tmog

olive wraith
#

I’m sure eventually either gorehowl raid weps would sim higher

#

But that ilvl jump is huge

strong zephyr
#

ok "i hate" that its growing on me

#

LOL

sullen dove
#

plus side of neck is need to spend 0 crests on it

coarse nest
#

I like it

proper peak
#

Using up all my luck today after getting myth pants in vault, got tindral neck from the weekly bag

runic pine
coarse nest
#

Myth pants/chest from the last two vaults surely bad luck this week right

proper peak
#

nah man, I smell a socketed helm coming your way

clever path
#

anyone has roar spear macro

haughty basin
#

damn i just realized you can wear 2 embellishments not just 1

oblique trail
#

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion,@cursor] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

sullen dove
clever path
haughty basin
#

yeah they say im the best warrior in north america

sullen dove
#

you had to have just started playing this patch... right? critcake

tardy lark
sullen dove
sullen dove
#

chest 400 dps better sadgers

unreal onyx
#

W

sullen dove
unreal onyx
#

850k

shell jackal
#

next pull for sure

#

gl gl

olive wraith
#

Why didn’t you just hit bb 2 more times

unreal onyx
#

I had bomb

olive wraith
#

Only 24 pulls though

#

Nerf pog

left perch
#

24 pulls solid

clear light
#

dude, best vaault ever.

oblique trail
#

warrior has no way to proc the good shield

sullen dove
#

augury and whenever leggo drops

oblique trail
#

I'm talking about the Fire shield

sullen dove
#

madox seemed happy with it

dawn pivot
sullen dove
#

yea i mean sure cant do that half

oblique trail
#

The nature shield is w/e

sullen dove
#

wish i could b too sadge free 489 no crest

#

but yea

oblique trail
#

the last 3 bosses are all fire damage

sullen dove
#

his claim was it was m+ xan ning

olive wraith
#

Not bad for EB I guess

sullen dove
#

since decent amount of shit from a lot of dungeons is nature

#

but yea its not that crazy

sullen dove
#

jus wouldve been the option that gave me the highest ilvl

olive wraith
#

Bb is like 3x more than ex