fury

[clever path]

we crafting this week???

oh true

[unreal onyx]

yes

[robust widget]

yes

[unreal onyx]

486 ring here I come

[clever path]

FINALLY I CAN GET MY POCKET FLAVOR BACK

486 u mean

[robust widget]

Flavor pocket is back on the menu

[clever path]

486 VERS MASTERY RING WITH POCKET FLAVOR

HERE I COME

[unreal onyx]

literally what I am about to craft too

[past pivot]

Another lousy vault /wrists

[dense elbow]

[clever path]

man i have 2 483s literally 0 2hs dropped so far

on myth

i want 489 waepon

[robust widget]

get leggo

[clever path]

real

[unreal onyx]

im still 476/450 gaming

what can I say

[dense elbow]

I got 1 HC drop weapon, and a 447

[molten relic]

Got myth shoulders w speed or myth tier gloves

[unreal onyx]

i am myth chest with leech gaming so far

• nm (hc) augury with leech

but that's all my tertiaries

except the avoidance on my 450 ashkandur

[dense elbow]

Leech

[robust widget]

big avoidance, never unequip it

[rustic latch]

I think Ive never had a worst vault

[normal yoke]

Lessgoooooo

[robust widget]

[plush flower]

fuck

[restive peak]

Mythic shoulders, cloaks/rings/wrists otherwise

The no wep dream continues

Til Leggo tn

[calm mantle]

Branch of myth tier?

[young swan]

this makes me depressed about having 2/3 mythic vault

[forest owl]

but why not be friends with pip?

[onyx cosmos]

what should i get

[clever path]

depends what do you need

[calm mantle]

pips an option to so trinket or tier?

[clever path]

might of the ocean is massive

[onyx cosmos]

but weapon though

[restive peak]

If you don't take gorehowl @ 483 you're legit trolling

[clever path]

so is gorehowl

[proper peak]

aww I cant put a flavor pocket on the ring-bound hourglass

[clever path]

i mean if he has 2 489s and a shit trinket

[onyx cosmos]

might of the ocean is giga for m+

[clever path]

might of the ocean is better especialyly in m+

[restive peak]

Fair I guess but doubt he does

[dense elbow]

That a wait till after Gnarlroot dies for 2nd twohander angle

[young swan]

do you take overall bis weapon or just a trinket

[restive peak]

^

BIS wep is BIS wep man, you take unless you have 2 489s, which I doubt

[onyx cosmos]

yea i dont have 2 489s

[clever path]

take gorehowl

[restive peak]

You take gorehowl

[clever path]

weapon dps>all

[onyx cosmos]

but ive killed first 3 boss already

ok

[proper peak]

also if you dont already have the mog, thats an added bonus

[onyx cosmos]

i guessi take weapon

[clever path]

kekkin

u killed gnarlroot on mythic >

?

[onyx cosmos]

yeap

[modest condor]

but gorehowl has crit

[clever path]

take weapon

[modest condor]

how is that bis

[restive peak]

I'd still take gorehowl

[pearl lagoon]

Extra damage to demons

[clever path]

i mean might of the ocean is not replacable in m+

[pearl lagoon]

Can’t get that anywhere else

[onyx cosmos]

man i hate having two choices

[clever path]

its bis on use

which you need in m+

[restive peak]

I don't think 483 to 489 ocean

[midnight cairn]

Depends on the trinket. Many ways to get a good weapon, not many ways to get good trinkets

[clever path]

but 489 weap is a 489 weap

[restive peak]

Is nearly as big as the ilvl on wep

In fact I know it isn't

[calm mantle]

So trinket or myth tier piece? for reference im using a champ sandglass and a pocket anvil as trinkets.

[clever path]

god i hate rezans

fucking cringe trinket

[modest condor]

but you can get 489 weapon from first boss mythic, you cant get 489 might anywhere else

[clever path]

dont have any fuckin raid trinks yet

cant wait to get rid of it

augury + signet

my beloved

[warm crag]

cant get augury from vault despairge

[clever path]

wdym

[dense elbow]

This, wait till after Gnarlroot is dead

[dire vigil]

Would might of ocean even be used with Rezan trinket and signet trinket?

[modest condor]

i mean if all you care about is getting the biggest upgrade right now then sure take the weapon

[chrome plover]

3 mythic slots no fyrakk mythic

[modest condor]

but 2 months from now you're gonna wish you took the trinket

[chrome plover]

silm is right tbf

[eternal sundial]

Loser spoingus no ce yet smh

[onyx cosmos]

i think i wait for the rekill

[clever path]

i meani f he is progging

[clever path]

take weapon

[finite spruce]

this thing any good for a mythic plus enjoyer?

[clever path]

you want as much damage as possible

[onyx cosmos]

nah im pretty much on bench rightnow

[chrome plover]

nah haste is kinda a dead stat

[onyx cosmos]

only in for 2 boss in first 5

[eternal sundial]

Farm smth better

[finite spruce]

either that or tier piece legs

[compact knot]

first week 489 rezans eye, second week mythic tier shoulders, third week heroic signet brand

[warm crag]

big noober speaking

[compact knot]

its just that easy

[normal yoke]

If it makes you feel any better, I am only a backup raider, so my chances of getting this from actual raid over a main raider was effectively 0. This was the only way I'd ever, realistically see this trinket.

[eternal sundial]

(spoingus will get boss months before me)

[clever path]

3 myth track tier pieces from 3 vaults

cant be mad with that

[warm crag]

(i am the noober speaking)

[clever path]

2*

[eternal sundial]

I cant use more parenthesis or it becomes monkaW

[clever path]

man i want augury on myth track

or weap

[warm crag]

monka

i want augury on the real mythic track

terrifying trinket

[clever belfry]

i want augury

period

[subtle lagoon]

My normal augury got stolen

I'll never forget it

[modest condor]

just loot it

[dense elbow]

Sadly, aug is only for pro augs

No aug for

[warm crag]

augory for augs

[modest condor]

i have normal and heroic augury

now i just need to kill mythic fyrakk real quick to get the mythic one too

[vapid river]

dis is good right?

[young swan]

yes'

[modest condor]

yeah 2nd best in raid

[normal yoke]

yuh

[naive swallow]

rly

[clever belfry]

cringus boring trinket

but powerful

[naive swallow]

isnt signet aug 2 best?

[dense elbow]

I am so happy for ppls luck today

[modest condor]

yes that's why rezan is 2nd best

also a lot of people have 489 rezan beat 489 augury on singletarget

[clever path]

idk rezans does

5% one pull

3% next pull

i hate it

[clever belfry]

its the same with augury?

[warm crag]

tbf the bosses that matter either arent hard damage checks or arent pure st

[compact knot]

augury is kinda the same no

[clever path]

well with the new changes

it should be better

[dense elbow]

Aug is 6% or 2%

[clever path]

dont have it so cant confirm

[clever belfry]

its still lower RPPM than rezans

so better

but w/e

[modest condor]

more like 4% or 12% lol

[dense elbow]

[modest condor]

but rezan is passive str so even with bad rng you get that

[dense elbow]

Also the Raptor is cute

[young swan]

i want augury

or any good trinket for that matter

[dense elbow]

You will get might, trust

[eternal sundial]

Wdym ur not a rezans + counter weight enjoyer

[warm crag]

@clever belfry trinket check

[clever path]

counterwiehgt

[modest condor]

btw is augury the trinket that gives wings?

[young swan]

im a rezans + mirror enjoyer

[dense elbow]

Counterweight ain't that bad, like 4% overall

[clever belfry]

spiked counterweight moment

[robust widget]

on procc yes

[clever path]

ye and it doesnt have mainstat

lmaoo

haste

[calm mantle]

how good are these for us?

[warm crag]

andaxd gets more loot in the spongiewarr vip loot share than spongiewarr gets moment

[eternal sundial]

Feels bad tho

[clever path]

got it in first vault

[eternal sundial]

Branch good

[clever path]

it was losing hard to 476 pips

at 489

[clever belfry]

real lore actually

[clever path]

nah but this neck

[sick hull]

yo guys

[winter shoal]

Veteran

[sick hull]

as fury, is it good to use gholak as offhand?

[dense elbow]

Pretty meh, but sim or bloodmallet em

[winter shoal]

no

[clever path]

ye i dont have it

dungeon journal

[sick hull]

thanks!

[warm crag]

its not the worst thing you could be using but 2x 2hs is a lot better

[calm mantle]

they show up as 16.9 and 16.2 on blood mallet. it's just I'm using old tier trinkets so im unsure if i take them or not

[clever belfry]

theres no way

gholak in OH is real

[warm crag]

its +900 for me

[clever belfry]

lemme check

i have it 483

[clever path]

same

let me sim

[clever belfry]

and also 2x483 2hs

[clever path]

no way

its real

[clever belfry]

unlike spongiewarr

[warm crag]

but its replacing ashkandur xdd

[sick hull]

cause wow head has it as alternative

[clever path]

is not real

[dense elbow]

Just wait till end of the week, you prob get better, then you can take the socket

[clever path]

i refuse to believe

gholak in the offhand

[calm mantle]

or the myth tier piece xD but pips is a 15k dps increase right now according to sim

[chrome plover]

phew

it was all just a bad dream

[clever path]

it cant be real

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/JW1DJ/f7e65a01bd.png

[clever path]

it isnt real

[modest condor]

[dense elbow]

PsyAiAyy

[calm mantle]

15k dps increase or myth tier piece?

[clever path]

pips goated

[olive wraith]

Myth track gorehowl let’s go

[clever path]

random 3k proc

[lavish sage]

yeah that’s what i’m gonna do, i think i’ll craft neck (which is a shame but I legit cannot get the BRH one I have ran it so many times), take helmet and use a curio from raid if I can get one

well that’s if i can get a curio that is

[dense elbow]

I would go tier, just farm some m+ trinky

[clever belfry]

do not look at the trinkets

[chrome plover]

if goated means trash then yeah

lololol

[clever belfry]

its not LFR branch i swear

[chrome plover]

[clever belfry]

💀

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/perro-perrofly-dead-chat-goofy-ahh-goofy-dog-gif-26346139

[warm crag]

instant death for andaxd

[clever belfry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dih1bc9YWvgC48CenUnSPk

poor girl

[oblique trail]

Andaxd so weak

[chrome plover]

abANDAXDoned

[oblique trail]

I will point and laugh

[clever belfry]

wtf

[quiet geyser]

Isnt signet and augy better?

[clever path]

big weapons

[clever belfry]

ive done 8x weeklies

on her

every week

wcyd

[dense elbow]

Git

Gud

[chrome plover]

wtfrick

[warm crag]

noober pauldrons

[modest condor]

#fury message

[chrome plover]

abandoned rng

[clever belfry]

no main stat gem

sick character

[oblique trail]

you are a FREAK

[oblique trail]

[clever path]

vers mast

[clever belfry]

yep

[clever path]

too good

[dense elbow]

Those are rookie tot numbers

[oblique trail]

1/5M Waycrest Manor

[clever belfry]

?

[oblique trail]

Lil bro clearing BFA content

[clever belfry]

yea sjelelelele killed first boss

[meager void]

yass kween

[clever belfry]

while we were teching something

now im 1/5 wcm until tomorrow

gg

[clever belfry]

wdym

[dense elbow]

[clever belfry]

signot unless u have easily

[clever belfry]

no what do you mean.

what you said made no sense

👍

[dense elbow]

You need at least 30

[clever belfry]

yes a 30 key this week

real

on g

n c

[static geyser]

Question, is Wafting Devotion still the better weapon enchant? Or does it fall off after a certain haste point?

[dense elbow]

Only then will you get trinky

[clever path]

sim

[olive wraith]

Why does gorehowl have to be unique equipped

[clever path]

you dont already have rezans?

[warm crag]

noob !!

[dense elbow]

Cause it is the gorehowl

[warm crag]

idk man flavour

[oblique trail]

It is unique while it has a shit tertiary, while rogue and dh get a tertiary weapon that's not unique and works in all content!

[clever path]

because it comes from divergent m+

[oblique trail]

Blizzard!!!!!!!

[clever path]

glizzard...

[warm crag]

arent nick of time and double time divergent aswell

[dense elbow]

They should make fyrrak 1h not unique

[eternal sundial]

Yes

[lavish sage]

is crafting a new trolling myself?

[sudden tusk]

hmmge

[lavish sage]

i have a 447 neck

[clever belfry]

blizzard moment

[eternal sundial]

My guilds ww ran brh 43 times for neck

[clever belfry]

deranged

[eternal sundial]

I was there the last 2 runs got traded it

[lavish sage]

Yeah i’ve ran it about 36

Nothing drop

[eternal sundial]

[clever path]

i have gorehowl and ravencrest

[eternal sundial]

I have looted 3 now

Very funny

[lavish sage]

I’ve seen it drop once and it wasn’t tradable

[clever belfry]

i remember doing both jy and workshop in bfa for a socket ring

cause i wasnt gonna spend socky

😎

(i shouldve just spent socky)

[modest condor]

imagine farming dungeons for loot

[clever belfry]

or could u even get socky i dont remember bro

like buy it from vision

[stuck sphinx]

Ugh let us pray for the brothers with no gleaming eye (it’s me)

[lavish sage]

What do u guys think

[eternal sundial]

I did 47 or so Workshops for ring in SL S4 and then got it in vault week after

[clever path]

got mine second try

[lavish sage]

Keep farming BRH for neckpiece or craft it

[clever belfry]

last season i did 19 vortex pinnacles in a day for the neck

[eternal sundial]

Jail

[clever belfry]

while playing aug

[clever path]

chat is this real

[clever belfry]

god that was fucking painful

[clever path]

i rmeember spamming dos in sl

[true sapphire]

67 Kara (upper?) for crit trinket

[clever path]

(i got opc 2nd run)

[eternal sundial]

Tragic that the item was simbait

[clever belfry]

i farmed upper kara for the fucking thing u put in artifact wep TF

and the ring ofc

[lavish sage]

Is filigree pendant hero track > crafted neck?

[summer carbon]

genuine question, should i pick gorehowl or the trinket

[lavish sage]

[eternal sundial]

Howl if u dont have one

IMO

[lavish sage]

gorehowl if you don’t have

[clever path]

Welp

[clever belfry]

wait until after raid

imo

[summer carbon]

483 trinket vs 483 goreowl

[clever path]

bwansamdi

[clever belfry]

BOONSBAMSAMBDI

LOOK WHO IT IS

IN DA MIDDLE

[eternal sundial]

Gore goes to 489

Innit

[clever belfry]

chap

[sudden tusk]

OOOOOO BWANSAMDI YOU GOOTTA SMELL YOUR FARTS BEFORE I FIND YOU THE JUJU

[thorny ice]

yeee

[eternal sundial]

Brev

[past pivot]

To mock me, Vault put a 480 Crab in there.

[clever belfry]

real

[clever path]

AHAHAHAHAH GHOLAK

IN THE OFFHAND

[summer carbon]

this is 489 vs 483 trinket

[clever path]

WE GO

[eternal sundial]

Ohlo Brilhante de Rezan

[clever path]

IT

HAS TO BE A SIMBAIT

[modest condor]

it's not you just posted the same screenshot lol

[eternal sundial]

[clever path]

anyone get fyrakk wep in vault this week

is it bait

or not

[young swan]

no way ur upset about the best trinket in the game

[eternal sundial]

It's funny tho

[lavish sage]

holy shit this discord

[lavish sage]

????

[summer carbon]

my bad this is 483 goreowl vs 483 trinket

[molten relic]

Augury 5% ST upgrade for me

[summer carbon]

tihs is 489 vs 483 trinket

[molten relic]

And more than double that in Mt

[young swan]

thats as much as the lego

gg

[gusty cloak]

sims say to take the normal raid trink.. think thats better than heroic belt? or catalyst legs?

[molten relic]

Too bad I rolled an 8 on it

Maybe this week it drops again

Got myth track speed shoulders this week

[brave cairn]

Yep that trinket is insane

[molten relic]

Speed gorehowl last week, speed shoulders this week

We zooming boys

[clever path]

wait no way gholak

offhand

is real

right

[eternal sundial]

Cope cone

[clever path]

im testing it rn

[oblique trail]

It is unironically competing with my 483 BRH sword in offhand on sims

By like -600

[chrome plover]

it's shit for me

: )

[oblique trail]

Proc it 15 times on pull and it's gg

😎

[compact siren]

New smf meta?!???!!!!

[molten relic]

Legendary should be able to split into two one handers

[winter shoal]

I did 25 DHT this weekend for that GOD DAMN ring

[oblique trail]

new meta 2hander + 1h fyrakk axe

it's real

[rigid stirrup]

first of many socket week 😦

[compact siren]

Haters will say it’s fake

[modest condor]

i didnt 🙂

[clever path]

is this a troll

[molten relic]

My hunter got dht ring with socket

[desert cloud]

Real ?

Or fake

[modest condor]

i think i've looted the dht ring like 3 times by now

[molten relic]

Still no hero track trinkets tho

Maybe this week

[true sapphire]

Neck upgrade with bad stats, still no hero track weapon 😦

[gusty cloak]

tswift neck?

[true sapphire]

Ironshell

[winter shoal]

And you didn't trade them to me? How rude

[lavish sage]

what’s max hero ilvl again

[oblique trail]

it is so real

[winter shoal]

483

[lavish sage]

thx

[compact siren]

Real

[molten relic]

I think the diff

Is all the Lego

[robust widget]

[molten relic]

[clever path]

[rigid stirrup]

hmm

do I brand augury + brand this week for tyran

or stay with might + brand

[desert cloud]

Is fury dmmg with legendary still middle of the pack ?

[young swan]

??

[clever path]

AHAHHA ITS ACTUALLY REAL

[modest condor]

might + augury

[young swan]

might augury

[calm mantle]

Hunting loot is it always better for bigger raid groups for more drops?

[young swan]

not even close

[winter shoal]

Fury with leggo fuk gud

[calm mantle]

or less drops less competition?

[lavish sage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rA5DJR5E9ZsP8Li66JVEC6

[desert cloud]

Real or fake ?

[modest condor]

imagine simming more than 190k

[young swan]

correct

[modest condor]

couldnt be me

[clever belfry]

couldn't be me

[desert cloud]

Agreed

[lavish sage]

i’m torn

[clever belfry]

think if i crafted and sent upgrades

[urban tapir]

no charge this week? 😦

[clever belfry]

id be around 190 on warr

[winter shoal]

Fury warrior does INSANE damage (real (not clickbait (actually clickbait)))

[lavish sage]

so close w crafted amulet

[rigid stirrup]

I've hit the point where vault is gonna be stale unless its mythic track w/e I got on

[lavish sage]

what should i do here

[desert cloud]

😴

[modest condor]

actually i could probably upgrade a bunch of hero track items yeah

[winter shoal]

You in aug prison Anda?

[clever belfry]

u should defo spend all wyrms

sil

[desert cloud]

If only i had wyrms

[rigid stirrup]

I'm pumping drakes into making like 2/3 wyrm upgrades every tuesday

[lavish sage]

what would we craft aside from wrists?

[modest condor]

let me check if i have any left

[oblique trail]

Can't wait to gain 5k dps tomorrow from vault when I pull heroic brand

[lavish sage]

i have wrists already

[oblique trail]

it will happen

[winter shoal]

debating spamming a fuckload of M+ after work before raid for wyrm's crests to inflate my heroic parses

[robust widget]

cloak

[desert cloud]

I spam gym instead

Gives u dmmg buff

[white pollen]

should i go with trinket, weapon or chestpiece? still got a raid finder weapon, but i got 4-piece set from normal. and then trinket is BiS, so difficult choice.

[modest condor]

man i only have 60 wyrm crests

[winter shoal]

Got some mad elbow tendonitis rn so I'm a leg-only enjoyer for a bit

[winter shoal]

I say take signet brand and farm M+ for a weapon

[unreal wasp]

Do I really take legs and wait a whole week just to turn it into tier next week for 1.1% increase or take ring for a .7% increase. Surely I get Myth pants in the vault again no?

[lavish sage]

oh yeah i forgot i even crafted that, i already have that too

[robust widget]

what was your other choice besides neck in vault

[desert cloud]

Skill issue

[sterile stratus]

Wyrm is the big bottleneck man

[desert cloud]

I just hurt my wrist today

[lavish sage]

helmet

[desert cloud]

So i’m not better

[winter shoal]

Real and factual

[worldly night]

gotta love a socket on week 3

[winter shoal]

Ong I think it's because I use straps too much and didn't do enough dedicated grip work so my forearms are stinky

[lavish sage]

taking that neck is trolling, so i’m gonna most likely take the helmet & swap my legs out for tier bc i don’t have tier legs yet

[robust widget]

wouldnt you gain more with taking neck and craft something else? considering you already have a 489 set helmet, while not optimal its just stat shuffling?

[desert cloud]

Using any extra material on everyday training makes u rely on them which makes u weaker

[lavish sage]

idk i’ll sim it all

[calm mantle]

I took socket week 1 and 2 LOL

[desert cloud]

Just train naty and use straps on big loads

[lavish sage]

i don’t like the idea of taking the hero track neck

when it will drop today

[robust widget]

oh wait its hero track

[lavish sage]

yeah

[robust widget]

yeah thats an F

[lavish sage]

so i think what i said is best

[covert blaze]

i've finally joined the signet brand family

[lavish sage]

[unreal onyx]

how does ring sim? I think that one is also big

[robust widget]

thought it was myth so yeh, prob what you said then

[lavish sage]

i already have the same ring on hero track

so it’s not a big diff

lemme sim

and the one I have has a socket

[meager void]

What would you choose. Hero Signet or Mythic Ravencrest 2h?
Im leaning signet cuz its droprate is ass and Mythic Gnarlroot weapon is better.

[unreal onyx]

[meager void]

and ofc, leggo will drop this week. ofc

[unreal onyx]

how likely are you to have a decent chance on signet myth?

bc hc signet is still bis for ST

but ass for mt/m+

[winter shoal]

It's good for M+ if you can keep stacks up

[lavish sage]

it’s amazing for M+ with a chad tank that chain pulls

[unreal onyx]

well yes if you can keep the stacks

[lavish sage]

so AKA is INSANE for tyrannical week

[meager void]

only on vault for the next few weeks most likely

[lavish sage]

augury + signet is

[unreal onyx]

I used signet for week 1 and 2 since I got it week 1

didn't like it

[robust widget]

signet is annoying in m+

[tardy solar]

Do any of the Myth track M+ trinkets out damage Hero track Signet Brand or Serpent Idol?

[lavish sage]

470 regal loa ring with socket vs 489 without socket

[unreal onyx]

in pure st? not that I know of

rezan is pretty good

[lavish sage]

BIG socket damage

[unreal onyx]

but not as good

[lavish sage]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8hHLd1darzqEubBz3hs57E

@unreal onyx

[unreal onyx]

you are 1 ilvl over me and sim like 25k more

[lavish sage]

yeah look at my gear

[chrome plover]

not crafting a ring this week?

[lavish sage]

i have bis trinkets

bis weapon(s)

[chrome plover]

483 weapons are not bis

[lavish sage]

they’re the right ones

[unreal onyx]

real

[robust widget]

no bis mog though

[lavish sage]

so technically they are but not the right ilvl

[unreal onyx]

ilvl is bis on weapons

[chrome plover]

i dont think u want soulcleaver

[lavish sage]

fuck u bitch my mog is swag

[tardy solar]

What would you guys use trinket wise for m+?

[robust widget]

might + aug

[oblique trail]

Might + Augury

If I had the option

[white pollen]

for m+ weapons, should i be aiming for gorehowl, ravencrest's wrath or whitefin?

[chrome plover]

might + aurugy some might say

[lavish sage]

anyway

[oblique trail]

All of them work, but ideally Gorehowl for Fury (they're fairly close to each other all things considered at equal ilvl though)

[lavish sage]

i’ll raid and then choose vault

[robust widget]

get the leggo

[white pollen]

cool now i know what to farm my brains out for

[tardy solar]

I guess I'll have to try to get Might

I have the option to take snek trinket from my vault at hero track

[oblique trail]

Might is very good for M+

[tardy solar]

Trying to decide if i want to grab it

[lavish sage]

yes pls

[oblique trail]

Volcoross trinket is ass

There are better trinkets you can farm/get from raid

[lavish sage]

I got 3 lesser embers last night

we are GAMING

[unreal onyx]

if you don't have might, I'd suggest farming tot for might + weapon chance

[lavish sage]

[tardy solar]

Isnt the volco trinket one of our best options?

[robust widget]

i didnt get a single one

[wispy thistle]

Is the Shadowed Razing Annihilator sim bait?

[chrome plover]

it's ok for pure single target

but there are better options

and it's ass for aoe

[chrome plover]

no? it doesnt even sim well iirc

[oblique trail]

From what I've seen so far it does dick all in M+, and on ST it gets beaten by farmable trinkets

So yeah

[chrome plover]

you might be baiting yourself by adding a 3rd embellishment

(the weapon is 1 of your 2 embellishments)

[lavish sage]

L

[lavish sage]

I pulled an ~80 parse on the first 3 bosses of mythic last night

Way better than last tier

[oblique trail]

gj

[lavish sage]

I’m getting better

[wet cloak]

Are servers up?

[tardy solar]

Dang, simming multitarget and it looks like the volco trink sims worse than my mirror + 🦀

[lavish sage]

ya

[unreal onyx]

I am big gaming so far

(I died on all 3 greys)

[turbid needle]

bro finna get replaced

bench inc

[unreal onyx]

survive every damn pull except the kill

[robust widget]

[oblique trail]

Doesn't survive the most important pulls

[unreal onyx]

real asf

[tardy solar]

Why do people play arms on Council btw?

[unreal onyx]

2T cleave

[lavish sage]

real gamers die on pull and stay dead the whole pull for kill

[oblique trail]

Because it's very consistent 2target cleave

(depending on your tanks)

Which Arms excels at

[unreal onyx]

coucil is a clusterfuck

imo

[tardy solar]

Oh I wish my tanks would actually let us cleave often 🙃

[lavish sage]

council is so CRINGE

[unreal onyx]

at least our first kill was

[chrome plover]

me duck

[lavish sage]

also arms is

[chrome plover]

🦆

[lavish sage]

shit

[tardy solar]

Honestly I hate council so much

[lavish sage]

i will never play arms

real gamers play with 0 brain cells

[chrome plover]

you guys will stop hating council if you play duck

[lavish sage]

oooo

I will be duck master

[oblique trail]

I will stop hating council when I get benched on it

[lavish sage]

🦆

[unreal onyx]

im gonna grief the entire melee camp when I have to duck the bear

if I can't get a parse, no one can

[chrome plover]

embrace the duck

30% uptime

no death

[chilly fractal]

Why does the Very Rare neck sim so shit? All that Vers I’d assume it’d sim much higher

[unreal onyx]

duckman

[chrome plover]

pure gameplay

[lavish sage]

hell yeah baby

DUCKMAN

https://tenor.com/view/lils-silly-duck-lilsduck-ducky-duck-duck-riri-the-duck-gif-19719423

[oblique trail]

If you get out of Duck instantly

[modest condor]

https://puu.sh/JVV5l/86c1bba9ac.png

[chilly fractal]

Does it sim well for anybody?

[oblique trail]

It's almost as if it doesn't exist

[tardy solar]

man wtf do i take then. I was thinking serpent idol but y'all making me think its trolling to take it

[oblique trail]

Got ducked 3 times on my rank 4 parse

[lavish sage]

[oblique trail]

just be a gamer and instant yoink the grass from other people

[lavish sage]

don’t take serpent idol

it sucks

[oblique trail]

(especially the one you save for the mechanic)

[lavish sage]

[unreal onyx]

funny how at almost the same parse% fury is 20k behind

[frosty karma]

must be nice having tanks that move the bear next to other bosses

[oblique trail]

I mean it's a bit troll of the tanks not to

[frosty karma]

after the first 30 seconds council turns into a ST encounter

[tardy solar]

mood

[lavish sage]

honestly

for council i think just going pure ST and sitting on pip is better

[modest condor]

oh you're on bitch duty

[chrome plover]

me duck

[clever path]

How does blizz not have the option to check your vault on your phone, it’s 2023 my phone is better than some peoples computers

[modest condor]

we have a healer and an aug do it

[chrome plover]

I have quack soundboard on lock

[lavish sage]

bro duck master is not bitch duty

[chrome plover]

yeah idk why we dont

but i have fun ngl

and all other melee hate boss

[robust widget]

ducks get the fucks

[chrome plover]

so that's a W

[lavish sage]

embrace the duck

[oblique trail]

You don't have to know it anyway until you are at your PC

[lavish sage]

duck = chad

[lavish sage]

no

[clever path]

But why don’t we have the option to check on our phone

[frosty karma]

[oblique trail]

Idk but it's not an issue

[unreal onyx]

I don't think I was 72% of the time a duck

[olive wraith]

QUACK!

[lavish sage]

bc remember the last time you could do wow stuff on your phone?

[clever path]

No what

I’m pretty sure my phone could probably run wow

[lavish sage]

Wow companion app

[lavish sage]

[tardy solar]

Trying. Its a pain cause i cant sim top gear and also sim an item replacement (Icould take the myth belt, replace my shadowflame patch belt, and then craft a shadowflame cloak)

[lavish sage]

Yes you can

[tardy solar]

How do y'all sim for m+

[frosty karma]

wtb new tanks

[tardy solar]

How? I genuinely do not know

[oblique trail]

1 min 5 target patchwerk

[tardy solar]

ty

[oblique trail]

You can manually input item strings into top gear if you know how, to sim it directly in top gear

Crafted items can be a bit finnicky to manually add

[tardy solar]

😬 I'm not smart like that

[clever path]

its joever

[lavish sage]

Use my simc output to take cloak and replace your string with mine

[clever path]

why is gholak actually working

i expected it to do jack shit

[oblique trail]

If you look at your /simc you see the strings already made for all your items. You can copy the format like
main_hand=,id=(input ID from wowhead URL),ilevel=(input ilvl you want)

This will input any weapon you want baseline for you to sim in top gear

Crafted weapons will be slightly different where you need to add specific stats, but they're not really relevant this tier anyway

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-the-fuck-wtf-matrix-the-matrix-blink182-gif-11308275628706487257

[lavish sage]

is it ‘’’ or ‘’

[agile helm]

Hey Guys, i rerolled to Warrior this tier and i noticed a problem in my gameplay, sometimes in my opener i generate alot of rage ( obviously ) and im a very spammy boi so i spam rampage and sometimes i spell queue 2 rampages instead of rampage -> bt -> rampage -> bt, how do i fix this without stop spamming? ( i play like this since 2005 ._. )

[lavish sage]

why isn’t it working

[oblique trail]

Could've just sent the cloak id man

[frosty karma]

reduce spell queue window

[oblique trail]

it's `` before and after

like this

[modest condor]

`like this`

[oblique trail]

but yeah just send the cloak id and not your entire sim

👴

[agile helm]

i thought ppl shouldnt mess with that setting at least that what i heared in mage discord in other contents

[lavish sage]

Yeah I meant to but it copied wrong cus i’m on mobile

[frosty karma]

latency + 100 is what a lot of ppl do

default of 400 is way too long

[agile helm]

ohh

i have latency of 30 at max

[summer pecan]

Sup all

[lavish sage]

back=,id=193511,bonus_id=8836/8840/8902/9405/9500/8794/9379/8960/9498,enchant_id=6592,context=13,crafted_stats=32/49

[agile helm]

atm 20

[summer pecan]

I got a quick question if anyone would be kind enough to answer

[lavish sage]

Here, replace the lines in your Simc output with that

that’s a 486 vers/mast cloak

with shadowflame patch

[tardy solar]

Thanks

[olive wraith]

Do we have 3rd crafted this week?

[lavish sage]

Yur

[agile helm]

ye

[clever path]

i did haste mast for cloak and vers mast for wrists

[pure breach]

Yap!

[lavish sage]

ok

?

i did vers mast because it simmed better for me

[summer pecan]

The Ouroboreal necklet from Amirdrasill has landed in my vault and i'm scratching my head wondering if it is even worth considering? I do fire dmg from my augery trinket but i dont think I do any nature dmg so is it even worth taking over say a mythic piece? ( I already have 4 piece with heroic pieces )

[lavish sage]

“Has landed in my vault”

[lavish sage]

just sim it man

[summer pecan]

Fair enough

[lavish sage]

what neck do you have now?

[clever path]

let the robot do the thinking for you

let it consume you

[warm crag]

what does that neck have again stat wise

[oblique trail]

low crit high vers

[warm crag]

might be worth considering just for the tiny defensive benefit

[lavish grove]

Shield is meh, especially for warrior, so just sim

[olive wraith]

Vers good

[summer pecan]

using the raven pendant atm

[shell jackal]

yeah, with the procs of fire damage giving you a shield that absorbs nature damage, and dealing nature damage gives you a shield that absorbs fire damage

[oblique trail]

The only fights it'll actually be useful on would be Smolderon, Tindral and Fyrakk

[summer pecan]

This is what I was wondering if the shield is even worth having

[oblique trail]

But we have no way of dealing Nature damage

[shell jackal]

i dont think OF does fire damage anymore tho does it? its physical?

[oblique trail]

OF is physical

[summer pecan]

i have augery

[shell jackal]

ahh but augury/shadowflame embellishments count?

[clever path]

my gf has an OF

[lavish sage]

ye it’s phys but you can get augury damage to proc it

[summer pecan]

neck states if u do fire dmg u get nature shield

[olive wraith]

Patch also fire

[lavish sage]

[shell jackal]

yeah okay

[lavish grove]

[summer pecan]

if u nature dmg u get fire shield

[shell jackal]

[summer pecan]

i'll sim it tho

[warm crag]

sims might? show how much uptime the shield has with augury

[robust widget]

where is this option i cant find it

[summer pecan]

thank you for the avice

advice*

[oblique trail]

It's once per minute

for a 100k shield or something

[summer pecan]

yeah

[oblique trail]

super diddy

[summer pecan]

Alright

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-after-next-kat-williams-money-mike-dismissed-tired-of-you-gif-20757492

[oblique trail]

but if you can proc it consistently then it's just a bonus

[summer pecan]

so more for a monk or something

[lavish grove]

Isn't it also shield you from nature/fire?

[summer pecan]

nature shield for fire dmg

[oblique trail]

It's the opposite of whatever damage you do

[summer pecan]

fire shield for nature dmg

but we do no nature dmg

[lavish grove]

More like boomie, but I think they don't like stats

[lavish sage]

it’s good for keys

not for raid

[oblique trail]

The 3 last actual bosses are primarily fire damage

[lavish grove]

Also shammy

[summer pecan]

Ahhh ok

[oblique trail]

which is where you'd want the extra survivability

And we can't proc fire shield

[summer pecan]

yeah

good point Banezi

ty

[olive wraith]

But you can run over lines on nym

[summer pecan]

Lmfao

[lavish grove]

[oblique trail]

You're Fury

[summer pecan]

they give u a haste buff right?

[oblique trail]

You can do almost anything you want

[summer pecan]

Lmao

Alright thanks guys much appreciated.

[frosty karma]

There is no option can use AdvancedInterfaceOptions and then go to the CVAR tab and search for SpellQueue https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/advancedinterfaceoptions or manually edit the cvar, I think its /console SpellQueueWindow XXX XXX = value, make sure to reload after changing

[robust widget]

ty king 👑

[lavish sage]

why would you want to change the spell queue window

genuine question

[robust widget]

double rampage as the guy explained, happens to me aswell sometimes

if you are get enough rage in burst

[lavish sage]

can you quote it i don’t see the message

[tardy solar]

Looks like my best option is to grab the belt and craft a shadowflame cloak

[robust widget]

.

@lavish sage

[fervent turtle]

sup, anyone knows how far Roar lags behind Spear in single targer raidfights?

target*

[frosty karma]

[oblique trail]

You can sim it but roughly 1-2%

Last I checked

[tardy solar]

What sec stats should I consider simming to put on this cloak?

[severe cypress]

Do we have a real answer about what's worth doing for the legendary? Should I be hitting normal for a bad luck protection item, or just straight to heroic?

[lavish sage]

oh shit yeah i do the same thing

[oblique trail]

Anything mastery

[lavish sage]

so i should probably change my spell queue window then eh?

[oblique trail]

But vers/mastery pretty safe option

[lavish sage]

i accidentally double rampage a lot too

[tardy solar]

ty

[robust widget]

worth a shot i guess, apparently most people lower the window from the baseline 400 to 100

[fervent turtle]

so its kinda safe to pick on encounters with lots of movement?

[subtle lagoon]

Vers mastery, crit mastery is 2nd good for me

[oblique trail]

The fights you want Spear on it's easy to stay in whenever you use it

The rest you use Roar

[lavish sage]

so what does it change necessarily? will it affect my gameplay

in any other way

[tacit crag]

There's a macro you can use to make sure you always bloodbath if available instead of rampage

[oblique trail]

Only exception would be some overlaps in Smolderon intermission

There's not really much of an excuse this tier not to use Spear for ST fights

[robust widget]

nah just that the spellqueue is shorter as in when youre on gcd, the next spell you press isnt "queued" to be cast once gcd has ended

[tacit crag]

Spellqueue window is to accommodate latency. If you change it too low you will have problems. Too high and you'll use abilities you didn't mean to. If you disable it then the server will wait for your latency before issuing the next spell

[lavish sage]

oh sick that sounds really nice actually a lot of the time i accidentally fuck my self over because of that

good to know

[lavish sage]

so i play with 15 ping

lower ping = lower spell queue ?

[robust widget]

mind sharing it?

[lavish sage]

share

[acoustic furnace]

There's an argument to made for Roar in that you can just fire and forget. With spear you run the risk of mechanics forcing you out and then you lose a lot of value.

[robust widget]

the way i understood it its your latency + spellqueue option, so if you have the baseline spellqueue option its 15ms + 400ms

[oblique trail]

And I can counterargue by saying that I've already progged Volcoross and Nymue where you use Spear, where it's very easy to stay in and even losing just 1-2 seconds it'll still be better

[tacit crag]

Then if your spellqueue is 150 or so you can input commands closer to the gcd ending and they will go through as the next action. If you're spamming bt but realize you got fury from aa to ramp you can swap last minute and ramp

[fervent turtle]

its such a pain, especially when tanks move boss shortly after pull

[oblique trail]

Smolderon is the only fight where it can be an issue because of intermission overlaps

Like genuinely

[lavish sage]

spear is cringe because it forces you to stay still

[oblique trail]

Spear isn't difficult to stay in this tier

[lavish sage]

imagine

[tacit crag]

/use Bloodbath
/cast Rampage

[lavish sage]

my ADHD cannot contain me

[oblique trail]

But if you want to use Roar then be my guest, whatever works for you

[lavish sage]

ty!!!

[oblique trail]

It's not gonna ruin your DPS but it is worse

[tacit crag]

@robust widget

[robust widget]

ty, gonna test around with macro and/or spellqueue at 100 for a bit

[rocky wharf]

know of preffered dungeon to farm for plate boots?

[tacit crag]

Typical recommendations for spellqueue window are your ms + 100

[acoustic furnace]

I believe being able to move freely is much more valuable in mythic prog than a marginal increase in overall damage. Once its on farm sure spear away but your average player will almost always get more value from roar.

[lavish sage]

i love me some roar

[tacit crag]

Higher spellqueuewindow is preferred for casters. So you can fluidly queue up the next spell easier. For instant abilities lower feels better if you sometimes swap what you're spamming.

[lavish sage]

spear and ur tank moves boss for whatever reason? good bye damage

[oblique trail]

Playing optimally is more valuable in mythic prog, which is using Spear

[ornate gust]

How does that work?

[storm steeple]

Are the allied wristguards crafted Item BIS for keys?

[oblique trail]

But again

Use Roar if you really want to

[tacit crag]

If bloodbath (empowered bt) is available you will never rampage

[oblique trail]

It's really not difficult to stay in Spear on 2 of 3 fights you use it on

[fervent turtle]

i set myself up tellmewhen aura that makes a pling sound on reckless abandon start and a plong sound when it ends, so it always goes pling,plong,pling,plong .. so when there is a pling but not instantly a plong, i know i gotta plong before the next rampage.

[robust widget]

this literally is a spam one button burst now

instead of two

[tacit crag]

The downside is if for whatever reason you're not enraged you can send an tier set empowered bb with no enrage

[lavish sage]

hell yeah brother

[lavish sage]

imagine not being 100% enraged

[tacit crag]

It's why I use it. Spamming two buttons was giving me issues

[tacit crag]

In m+ between packs

In st it doesn't matter

[acoustic furnace]

Hence why I said more valuable for the average player. I personally use spear on ST. But we both know there will be times where you get forced out of spear early or tank pulls the boss away and then it's worse than if you used roar.

[lavish sage]

gaming

[oblique trail]

Ok but Volcoross and Nymue literally can't move

[lavish sage]

YOU have to move

[oblique trail]

And Nymue adds you don't want to move either in fear of pulling them over a beam, where 1 of the adds are permanently immobile

[acoustic furnace]

Volocross and nymue both force you to move

[oblique trail]

Through all of Nymue and Volcoros prog I've been able to consistently stay in my Spear and only have to move out for 1 second at most whenever I've had to

Like really

It's not that difficult lol

[lavish sage]

i use spear but like

it doesn’t matter

[acoustic furnace]

Nobody said it was difficult haha I literally said I use spear

[lavish sage]

prog and you find it hard to use spear just use roar

simple

[robust widget]

Roar = GigaChad

[oblique trail]

You're saying the average player probably wont be able to stay in it to gain the value of Spear

[lavish sage]

i’m saying that the argument is valid for roar and it’s not BAD to use it if you’re getting more value out of it

[acoustic furnace]

Correct. If you're progging mythic you're not average by a long shot.

[oblique trail]

And I'm just saying that it's not so difficult to the point that the average player can't stay in it

[soft viper]

spear on nym sucks

[oblique trail]

how does it suck

[lavish sage]

me thinks that the player should be deciding what they use based off of their gameplay because the damage difference is small enough that it wouldn’t make a huge impact

[soft viper]

when the lines come out

[oblique trail]

It's a 6 second buff window

[spiral orbit]

Do lesser emblems drop from normal raid or only heroic and mythic? not sure if i need to run normal every week

[oblique trail]

Way more often than not you're able to stay in the Spear before lines will hinder you

[fervent turtle]

another argument for roar is that spear might come off while you gotta move / do mechanics so you gotta delay and lose dps

[lavish sage]

check the blue post

[cobalt jacinth]

the bluepost said only heroic and mythic

[fringe depot]

@swordish Guys may I ask sth plz?
How much percent of haste should I go for on fury?

It's like stat has changed from s2 thanks in advance

[naive swallow]

is the versa wrist worth it ?

[lavish sage]

?

wrong

[naive swallow]

with crit haste predetermined ?

[lavish sage]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-announces-how-to-get-fyralath-legendary-how-bad-luck-protection-works-336433

[cobalt jacinth]

im a bozo

[lavish sage]

There is Bad Luck Protection from killing Fyrakk every week, with smaller Bad Luck Protection from random bosses on Heroic or Mythic.
Mythic Fyrakk has a low chance of dropping the Legendary as Group loot

i love misinformation

[acoustic furnace]

Shadowflame embellishment with optimal stats will do more damage.

However: When in doubt, Sim it out.

[tardy solar]

Keys count for the do 4 mythic dungeon weekly right?

[oblique trail]

yes

[magic stone]

Hey would we take dancing blades over titanic rage in like, say a 20 this week?

[oblique trail]

Dancing will always be better regardless of the week

Unless you're doing very low keys where packs die very fast

[proud bough]

What do yall think? Sims say that Brand is a 2.8k dps increase on Single Target (obv), while Might is a 400 dps increase on multi target (meh) over my current trinkets Rezan's/Mirror... Worth to pick up Brand for Single Target even if I won't use it in keys?

[robust widget]

how likely is it that youre getting signet from raid

[proud bough]

I'd be rolling against roughly 8 people in my raid, so a low chance

We clear each week though

norm and heroic

[fading sky]

Signet is hard to get

[past pivot]

Wait till after raid

[fading sky]

If ya raid contain many ppl with the nerd

Need

[robust widget]

i'd say depends on your prio, do you plan to mythic raid? m+ enjoyer? because Might is big for M+ whereas mirror desyncs easily, so yeah, prob wait until after raid

[fading sky]

It helps raid to take signet

[proud bough]

I could also pick this, but I crafted a Lariat for that slot because I was getting fuck-all for neck pieces lol

[past pivot]

no, wait till after raid then take either trinket

[proud bough]

Raid isn't until Friday 😭 But that's good advice

Thanks 😄

[lavish sage]

why would u craft lariat

[tender sky]

how much of a dps loss is it to not run spear of bastion in ST?

[oblique trail]

Roughly 1-2%~

[lavish sage]

[robust widget]

no bezrq

FOR ONCE YOU SIM YOSELF

[lavish sage]

i do

that’s why i usually don’t ask for simple answers

[tender sky]

this is the week we get our food buff back! wooooo

[proud bough]

It was an 8.5k dps increase compared to the 2.3k dps increase of the vers bracers according to my sims. /shrug

[lavish sage]

SIMple

[oblique trail]

For me atm

[robust widget]

SIMPle

[tender sky]

very helpful ty!

[modest condor]

but why lariat

[lavish sage]

oo heroic cache today

[modest condor]

just craft a non-embellishment neck then

[lavish sage]

I get heroic signet

if only it was myth..

[modest condor]

just kill mythic smolderon

[lavish sage]

i’m 3/9 only

[soft viper]

oof

[lavish sage]

i am not on a gamer realm

i should be tho

[robust widget]

augury

[lavish sage]

but i enjoy playing with my pals

[oblique trail]

On top of this just be Deattu who gets given every trinket known to man

[fading sky]

Lariat is bis. Once he gets fully socketed i guess would be argument?

[lavish sage]

we get CE just later and i’m ok with that

[fervent turtle]

do you guys use sudden death procs during opener burst?

[modest condor]

i dont