fury

[simple rampart]

It’s weird only because of the big tokens right? You can do normal get the BLP the do heroic

But who knows if that does anything vs just doing heroic

[restive peak]

If it works like evoker, no.

[wispy bridge]

who is roidstack?

[meager void]

according to maths, its the same

[warm crag]

i'm unsure if current weeks greater tokens even affect this week or only start kicking in next week

[meager void]

but common sense has a hard time dealing with that math demonstration

[spare otter]

I thought it kicks in next week

[chrome plover]

if you do normal first is that your chance for the raw legendary “used”? And then you can’t get it on heroic?

[simple rampart]

Yeah that’s the hidden part that make it “worse” than evoker

I haven’t seen them specify that it’s next week

[sullen dove]

raw

[past pivot]

The way the evoker leggo worked: if you killed on lfr: like 0.03% blp per kill. Normal: 0.06%. Hc: 0.09%. M: 01.2%
If you just killed it on mythic, you would get 03.0% blp.
If you killed it on lfr then mythic, you’d get 0.30 then 02.7%.
Kill it on mythic then lfr and you get 03.0 and then 0.0%.
Or w/e numbers they actually used.

[sullen dove]

evoker blp was only heroic and up doe

while embers i think drop out of normal and possibly lfr

[chrome plover]

Yep

[past pivot]

Incorrect

[sullen dove]

it was definitely only heroic and up

[undone sky]

So whats the best way to get the leggy axe?

[warm crag]

pls i beg

[simple rampart]

Do heroic and pray

[frail trout]

The part I'm wondering and we will probably never know is if you are getting 2% normal into 3%(+?) Because you chose to do normal first and used that blp token early - even if the heroic one after doesn't stack but instead overwrites you still get a better chance on heroic if the theory is true

However we will never know

[past pivot]

Evoker leggy dropped on all difficulties, even lfr

[chrome plover]

you could drop the legendary on lfr but bad luck protection only stacked up on heroic and mythic

that’s a fact

[wispy bridge]

just get lucky its 50% drop either you get it or you don't

[sullen dove]

it dropped on all difficulties, but the stacking chance was only added to heroic+

normal/lfr remained their abysmally small drop chance numbers the entire patch

[chrome plover]

The chance for Evokers to receive the Cracked Titan Gem now increases each time you defeat Scalecommander Sarkareth on Heroic or Mythic difficulty.

that was the bad luck protection blue post^

[undone sky]

So i kill hero fyrakk every week and if i dont drop it i will have a bigger chance next time?

[slim pollen]

Imaginary numbers just to explain:
Normal chance = 1
Hc chance = 2

Doing just HC: 2+1 =3
Doing normal first then hc: 1 + 2 = 3

The complicated part would be how the greater blp work.
If doing normal first and using the blp before doing hc actually works, it would be 1 +(2+blp) instead of just the normal 3
Basically what Zephn over here said

[chrome plover]

yes

[sullen dove]

you use the item that drops off the boss but yes

[past pivot]

I thought they eventually added blp to normal and LFR as well. Like when cross-mythic opened. Maybe not

[undone sky]

Wasnt there the chance for other bosses to drop the fragments for increased chance aswell?

[chrome plover]

well actually sorry, i should state that it's an assumption, we dont know for sure, they might not actually do anything

[molten relic]

But like if you killed normal for the token, and didn’t use it till after you killed heroic and used that one

Presumably the normal one does nothing

[chrome plover]

presumably

[molten relic]

Since you used heroic one first

[static root]

yes, I got 4 lesser fragments from mythic bosses

[molten relic]

Blizzard is a hoe about these kinds of things

It’s prob taking effect when u get the token

Not even when you use it

Lol

[chrome plover]

nah there's a script for how many lessers you have used

and the number clearly goes up when you use them

[molten relic]

That doesn’t mean shit

It’s just a number thing

[chrome plover]

well it means number goes up when you use it :)

[molten relic]

From some random datamined string

[chrome plover]

yeah?

[molten relic]

Right

But that’s all it is

[sullen dove]

number going up typically better than number not moving

[chrome plover]

for all we know the bad luck protection is pure placebo

[undone sky]

Does anyone know the drop chance of the axe and how much it goes up?

[sullen dove]

[chrome plover]

and doesnt do anything at all

[tacit crag]

So do greaters do a bigger number but it's applied to next week maybe?

[chrome plover]

no, nobody knows this

[molten relic]

Just blizzard being vague for no reason

[undone sky]

But why you saying its placebo is this confirmed?

[chrome plover]

no, nothing is confirmed

[restive peak]

Noone knows anything verifiably except that the axe can, indeed, drop.

That's it

[molten relic]

There’s a lot that don’t make sense

[chrome plover]

axe quest might drop when you kill fyrakk

and it might not

that's all we've got in solid evidence

[frail trout]

People wanted the details of how this system worked - blizzard response "confirm Deez"

[simple rampart]

The only thing that doesn’t make sense/matters is if a greater token works the same week you get it

That’s it lol

Otherwise just do heroic and pray

[chrome plover]

The only thing that doesn’t make sense/matters is if a greater token works

[meager void]

I belive the big Q everyone wants answered is what to do each week for the best chance

[chrome plover]

[molten relic]

They said u should just do highest for cumulative chance

[simple rampart]

Sure but if it doesn’t work there’s nothing you can do anyway

[meager void]

however, I think that big Q will not be answered

[molten relic]

But if u get normal token after already getting heroic token

Wtf does the normal token do

[simple rampart]

Whereas if the token works same week that effects you

[warm crag]

this isn't possible afaik

[simple rampart]

Nothing else effects what you do to try to get it

[restive peak]

Probably nothing Flakk

[sullen dove]

you dont get normal greater ember after heroic one

[past pivot]

Blizz said that but people are paranoid

[restive peak]

There's probably a cap per week and the heroic, big token is the highest it can go per week

[molten relic]

Idk mf was in here yesterday saying he got normal token after getting heroic

[clever path]

yes u do

i got it

[frail trout]

You only seem to get the normal token if you do it before heroic, not after

[clever path]

i got 2 greaters

[sullen dove]

[chrome plover]

id ont think that's real

[warm crag]

what did they say

[tacit crag]

Wouldn't in all cases it make more sense to do normal the hc fyrakk? You get greater from normal and can use it so if it works same week you get higher on hc and if they both have chance to drop leggo but if you do hc first normal won't drop it then mathematically it makes more sense to do normal first, no?

[molten relic]

He right here

[sullen dove]

did you do norm > heroic or heroic > norm

[molten relic]

Smh

[meager void]

where is this stated?

[clever path]

norm > heroic

[warm crag]

also please still follow up on that random news post you linked me

[frail trout]

Well nvm I guess some people have received it in the opposite order

[sullen dove]

wack

[simple rampart]

Really? I did heroic first and all of our 2hers got one then normal and no one did

[frail trout]

But that's not the typical report

[molten relic]

That’s not what I said

[past pivot]

In the blue post. lol

[simple rampart]

Literally 0/9 on normal

[molten relic]

I said doing heroic first

Then normal

U shouldn’t get a normal token

If the heroic one is cumulative blp

From all previous

[simple rampart]

I don’t think you can get normal tokens after heroic

[molten relic]

But people in here swearing they got normal after heroic one

[chrome plover]

who

where

[simple rampart]

I don’t believe them

[clever path]

why does it matter

[molten relic]

Which doesn’t make sense if the token actually does something

[tacit crag]

Doing hc then normal doesn't make sense if hc has the chance of normal + hc. You use up your redo for loot

[clever path]

you will either get it or not

[molten relic]

Bc if the token works cumulatively

The normal one would do nothing

[clever path]

blp is just copium

[meager void]

could you link it please?

[molten relic]

If u used heroi first

[simple rampart]

It matters because it’s people being wrong and it would lend towards doing the content differently

[past pivot]

I just did minutes ago

[warm crag]

can you actually cite anything you talk about or are you just talking out of your ass again

you linked a random news post that contained classic news

???

[clever path]

real

[clever path]

i personally dont care i will keep reclearing until i get it eventually cba optimizing shit im bored anyway

[meager void]

this is what your link shows

[chrome plover]

https://www.wikipedia.org/

[warm crag]

fucking sick

[molten relic]

The blue post says just doing ur highest difficulty

Each week

Is the highest chance

[simple rampart]

Then the discussion isn’t really for you is it

[warm crag]

what does it say about minor essence clear order?

[molten relic]

No reason to do lfr norm heroic

[simple rampart]

If we were talking about soccer and you came in “man I don’t even care about soccer” no one fucking asked lmao

[past pivot]

I cited a Blizzard post. Do you not believe anything? You are the type who made the pandemic last years instead of months ffs

[simple rampart]

Shut up

[restive peak]

Which means doing the highest difficulty, the BLP item there will cap you for the week.

[clever path]

WRATH CLASSIC 3.4.3 PTR????????? FUCK FYRALATH WE GETTING SHADOWMOURNE

[molten relic]

Minor essence is random from heroic/mythic

[meager void]

look at your fucking link dude

[tacit crag]

Blizz actively would not encourage degen behavior, but if degen behavior caused higher chance of drop, players will do it

[molten relic]

It says it can drop form heroic and mythic

[chrome plover]

guys you should do normal fyrakk, then first 3 heroic, then gnarlroot, then first 2 lfr wings, then next 5 heroic, then do igira mythic, then finish normal, then do heroic fyrakk, and finally finish mythic

[clever path]

i wouldnt be so sure

[warm crag]

so what's the optimal thing to do? it doesnt state shit

it states vague concepts but nothing clearly

[clever path]

prob mythic clear into heroic into hc fyrakk

[restive peak]

Mythic would be optimal, heroic 2nd highest, normal 3rd etc

[meager void]

Raid Leaders everywhere just felt a strain in the force.

[clever path]

or heroic 8/9 -> mythic -> hc fyrakk

[restive peak]

If you killed heroic, you have the highest up to heroic

[spare otter]

I could honestly believe that as being the best opportunity to get the axe lol

[past pivot]

Sorry. They changed the blue link: https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-announces-how-to-get-fyralath-legendary-how-bad-luck-protection-works-336433

[restive peak]

Mythic would = higher chance

[proud moat]

I wanna play fury so bad but my gear is so wild

[lunar niche]

whats up folks. Just wondering whats making Fury starting to pull away from Arms in the logs. thanks!

[chrome plover]

dont worry about it, just send fury it's fun :)

[restive peak]

Arms fuk bad Fury fuk good

[undone sky]

Its says the bad luck Protection works for subsequent weeks

[simple rampart]

Survivability, aoe windows, burst windows

[proud moat]

I don’t have enough haste to not have down time but I can try

[robust rock]

almost equal st + easier to dmg adds as fury

[proud moat]

I’m like 45% crit

[clever path]

fury has more survivability and does better into adds

[tacit crag]

Let's say blizzard is saying that hc fyrakk is normal + hc combined so you have 1% + 2% for example in hc for a total of 3% chance doing hc and therefore just have to do hc because it uses up your normal chance. That mathematically is correct, but probability would say it's better to have two chances over one chance.

[clever path]

arms does better in execute phase

[chrome plover]

i dont think this should matter too much

[molten relic]

Idk the only thing they said is that u should do ur highest difficulty each week and there’s no need to go back to easier ones

[clever path]

youre overthinking it

[meager void]

where does it say "do highest difficulty for best chance"?

[clever path]

just reclear each week and thats it

[molten relic]

In that post

[spare otter]

Idk that make sense actually

[molten relic]

Where it says highest difficulty gives cumulative chance

[spare otter]

Because then you have 2 50/50 chances to get wep instead of one

[molten relic]

So there’s no need to do others

[clever path]

[sullen dove]

tru

[fallen rune]

what gems would u use guys? is there a difference between m+ and ST ?

[molten relic]

Tho it doesn’t say “the best way to get it is this”

[clever path]

what is blud waffling about

[restive peak]

Welp you're all free to waste your time in normal weekly lmao, but heroic clearly is enough until we're killing mythic

[sullen dove]

no difference, sim but usually mastery/verse or the other way

[molten relic]

It says “ doing a higher difficulty gives your cumulative weekly chances from lower”

[meager void]

what it does say tho is that :
...and will be directly represented by players receiving a Greater Ember of Fyr'alath when defeating Fyrakk.

so it might be that its not the use but getting the drop.

[fallen rune]

ty ❤️

[clever path]

we dont even know if embers do shit at all

[chrome plover]

I'd rather have one 100% chance than two 50% chances

personally

[clever path]

sure you can count them

[warm crag]

so does the article mention the timeline of when the blp actually takes effect? should i be maximizing the amount of lesser embers i get before i attempt fyrakk? the article mentions exactly one greater core per week, how come people report getting multiple?

[sullen dove]

one of them makes a number go up

[meager void]

thats a big assumption there cowboy.

[molten relic]

How is that an assumption

[meager void]

this.

[molten relic]

They literally said that in the post

[clever path]

can anyone give me the script for checking embers

[simple rampart]

Doing heroic Fyrakk instead of many difficulties is the best to do if it is the same as the evoker one, the only thing that can change that fact is if a BLP token from Normal Fyrakk works on Heroic Fyrakk

[restive peak]

It says the following week, doesn't it? Or alludes to it.

[simple rampart]

Stop having bad arguments

[meager void]

cummulative chance for that difficulty or for that one an all lessers ones?

[simple rampart]

It doesn’t allude to that

Not really

[warm crag]

conventional bad luck protection systems from other games imply this but the one piece of communication they had abt it doesnt mention it at all

[molten relic]

completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks.

Direct from the article

[chrome plover]

that specifies the actual drop, not the bad luck protection

[tacit crag]

Idk in the off chance greaters apply same week somehow then it makes better sense to do normal the hc with hc getting normals added chance. If hc is 2% and normal is 1% but doing hc is 3% then doing normal and getting greater, it applies same week so you then do hc and have 3% still instead of 2% because of the added greater that would be degen shit I wouldn't put blizzard past not thinking of and it works

[restive peak]

I think because they already explained during evoker leggo, it seems like a VERY safe assumption that the item is purely a physical item showing the exact same level of BLP they got, with the same drop opportunity, and everyone attempting to twist it is just looking to create a weird world where Blizz, this one time, randomly decided "FUCK EM LETS WATCH THEM SQUIRM FIGURING OUT OUR 1 RANDOM ADDITION"

[deep niche]

but does it says if you killed it on HC you can't get drop from normal or lfr?

[molten relic]

“Cumulative increase in chances for future weeks”?

[simple rampart]

If you get heroic BLP you don’t get normal BLP that is correct

[restive peak]

So yes, I was right; it does state it's for future weeks and not current.

[spare otter]

You guys are arguing over nothing

[sullen dove]

im just gonna cook under the assumption the chances will equal out whatever i do first, and if it so happens normal greater ember counts for the week, just run up a quick norm fyrakk b4 heroic

[restive peak]

So no, you can't kill normal and get 10 and then have a higher heroic chance

[spare otter]

We all getting the leggo next reset

[sullen dove]

proly not that big a deal anyway

[spare otter]

I believe

[chrome plover]

well this is what i was initially telling people but now i just like adding fuel to the fire in skyhold by adding little snippets of nothingness

[molten relic]

Lessers only work for heroic or mythic chance

[chrome plover]

pure content while im at work

[meager void]

indeed

[restive peak]

[chrome plover]

in reality im just gonna do heroic with guild on reset day, and a normal boost on saturday

[tacit crag]

I'm waiting at Dr office

[chrome plover]

and the legendary will drop

[tacit crag]

Chatting

[chrome plover]

at some point

[deep niche]

or not

[restive peak]

It's dropping for me today, confirmed in my soul, so w/e

[deep niche]

[warm crag]

wording of the post coudlve been better but ur right, only question mark i have left is why ppl get 2 cores clearing from nm -> hc w/o this behaviour being explained

[molten relic]

Nm-> heroic makes sense

[restive peak]

Probably a bug, but it's still likely the "behind the scenes" number of BLP is capped per week, and that heroic gives the full amount before mythic

[molten relic]

Heroic -> nm does not

[tacit crag]

I'm doing normal into hc. You do hc because you blindly believe blue post. We are not the same

[velvet crypt]

Heard someone say that in ST you can get the initial hit of spear of bastian to benefit from avatar, while also having the odyn's fury from avatar benefit from elysian might. How can you do this?

[molten relic]

U get the normal boost from doing normal

[restive peak]

Even if you got a BLP item from normal, it's for the NEXT week.

[molten relic]

Heroic gives u the heroic boost.

If u do just heroic it gives u combined

[restive peak]

And the heroic 1 will overwrite the normal 1

They don't combine into 2

[chrome plover]

no i do hc first because my guild does it during raid time

we are not the same

[molten relic]

Well it’s cumulative, so doing heroic first gives u the normal chance plus heroic chance

[simple rampart]

Yeah I’m not pugging normal before my raid Tuesday night where we do heroic Fyrakk

[restive peak]

They have stated several times that they don't want people to feel obligated to run multiple difficulties every week

[molten relic]

But doing normal first, the heroic one just gives you the heroic boost in that case

[simple rampart]

They can state all they want but they haven’t clarified it

[restive peak]

Your weekly "chance" is the same whether you do nm>hc or just HC, as HC drops the highest and caps, unless you're in 1 of the 4 CE guilds

[simple rampart]

Whereas with evoker it was clarified

[molten relic]

U don’t need to do normal before heroic

[simple rampart]

You literally can not state this as fact

[restive peak]

They didn't reexplain because they already explained with the fuckin evoker

[molten relic]

completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks.

[simple rampart]

By the very nature that normal Fyrakk drops token

[restive peak]

How dense do you have to be

[molten relic]

The literally

Said this

[restive peak]

This isn't a conspiracy man

[molten relic]

Exact

[simple rampart]

They didn’t

[restive peak]

It's a fuckin video game

[molten relic]

In the post

[restive peak]

And yes, they did. They blatantly say the BLP is for NEXT WEEK and is cumulative. Read.

[simple rampart]

stop treating things you think as fact the post doesn’t specify how BLP tokens work

[molten relic]

@simple rampart

[simple rampart]

It doesn’t say that

Quote it.

[molten relic]

This is word for word

In the post

[chrome plover]

he did quote it to be fair

[restive peak]

We have linked it like 5 times

[chrome plover]

🤣

[tacit crag]

You have a guild with a raid time. I have a guild with a time to raid. We are not....nvm

[restive peak]

He literally just tagged you in it again.

[simple rampart]

That’s not what those words say lmao

[molten relic]

They don’t need to mention the tokens

It tells u exactly how chances work

[restive peak]

I love how you've convinced yourself Blizz is trying to run some crazy trick on us

[molten relic]

For the axe

[meager void]

the prob is that those words can be interpreted in a number of ways meaning a number of things

[restive peak]

They didn't reiterate what they've already stated about the leggo last patch because it's redundant

[tacit crag]

Blizzard doesn't know how the axe drops either

[molten relic]

It gives you the chance, and also gives u the cumulative blp

For future weeks

[simple rampart]

I haven’t convinced myself of anything, like you said, this isn’t a conspiracy

Stop treating word as some grand objection to your intelligence

[chrome plover]

i actually think flakkcannons quote from the article is pretty convincing

[simple rampart]

That’s just literally not what the blue post says

[chrome plover]

and can only really mean one thing

[simple rampart]

You can believe it, it can be true, but it’s not what it says

[molten relic]

Wht

I copied

[restive peak]

It's been explained to you, and quoted, multiple times. Simple reading comprehension explains it, you're the one continuing on.

[chrome plover]

depsite disagreeing earlier for content

[molten relic]

This directly from the blue post

Word for word

[simple rampart]

You cannot read. Lmao

[restive peak]

He's trolling fr

No doubts

[chrome plover]

💀

[restive peak]

The irony here.

[chrome plover]

that's pretty funny ngl

[restive peak]

Right

xD

[simple rampart]

The irony of being a fat body that claims people can’t read when you literally lack basic understanding is wild

[forest owl]

blizz thought we be fighting about the axe rng drop...reality we sitting here arguing about the BLP xD

[molten relic]

The only ambiguity in the article is they don’t explain the lesser tokens

Other than saying they work for those difficulties

[simple rampart]

The token chance has not been fully explained

It hasn’t

[restive peak]

I'm a fat body now, sick dawg.

[velvet crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[simple rampart]

You can’t sit here and say it has

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/energy-vampire-colin-robinson-wampir-energetyczny-energy-vampire-gif-27564016

[simple rampart]

You’re 100% incorrect

[molten relic]

The big tokens are pretty straight forward

Since they said exactly how those chances are calculated

[primal bane]

Okay that’s it no leggo for any of you this week

[restive peak]

Yes and you're 100% correct with both your created reality where Blizz is running secrets and also that I, the 1 with a picture, am the fat body here friend.

[noble elm]

Does it really matter?

[primal bane]

Get your BLP and don’t use it until next week

Actually do use it at all

[noble elm]

Blp or no blp

[primal bane]

Get the leggo naturally

[forest owl]

what's your name fat body?!?!

[simple rampart]

It doesn’t really matter, it won’t effect how I approach the content

[chrome plover]

As with Nasz’uro, completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks.

[simple rampart]

But you’re still wrong

[tacit crag]

Are you duck facing in that pfp

[chrome plover]

did you read that sentence

[meager void]

here's the room for interpretation:

1. either blp i just represented by token drops
   or
2. blp is represented by token drops and its also done behind the scenes when you dont do that content

[sullen dove]

[restive peak]

Only for you boo

[tacit crag]

A man as jacked as you

[chrome plover]

the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks. - this IS bad luck protection

[restive peak]

[clever path]

youre overthinking it so hard its crazy

[chrome plover]

i think that must be the part confusing people

[urban tapir]

wish there was no axe mfkers cant read 😂

[restive peak]

yo I won a TFT while havin this convo, gaming

[tacit crag]

You're not thinking over hard enough

[chrome plover]

otherwise i dont get how this can have different meanings

[clever path]

think about what

something i have no control over?

[noble elm]

Kill fyrakk - maybe get axe. Kill more fyrakks - maybe a little more? You’re literally killing fyrakk blp or not so it’s pointless. It doesn’t change your behavior lol.

[restive peak]

Mines gonna be in my vault from my LFR BLP you're all jelly

[molten relic]

I really think the blp is calculated on kill and the token just placebo

But the counter going up when using tokens

[tacit crag]

Something you THINK you have no control over, but what if you do.

[molten relic]

There’s only counter on the lessers yeah?

[clever path]

why would i care

its like 4% anyway

by the time i get it

[restive peak]

What if we all decide if the axe drops but we don't even know we have that power, like Neo?

[clever path]

prog will be over

and its useless

[velvet crypt]

So I didn't know how it worked so I just looked at the bluepost and it says "As with Nasz’uro, completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks."

[chrome plover]

afaik

[tacit crag]

If you don't care about the leggo why are you even here. It's everything

[meager void]

the funny part here is that the tokens where supposed to be what Blizz came up with after LEARNING from the evoker leggo.

[velvet crypt]

Seems pretty straight forward

[restive peak]

Mind blown, get Zach in here to explain this to us bois.

[meager void]

you know, to avoid confusion

[chrome plover]

he just disappeared :(

[restive peak]

Fuck man, my fat body turned him on too much and we've lost him!

[clever path]

so you cant cast spells without it?

[molten relic]

It does say lessers only for those difficulties

Not sure if that means heroic and mythic, since they drop from both

[chrome plover]

probably for the best he sounded like he was about to burst a blood vessel

[molten relic]

Or only from respective difficulties

So heroic lessers only for heroic

And mythic lesssers only mythic

[restive peak]

that's the point

[tacit crag]

YOU CAST SPELLS?

[molten relic]

But on use on axe

[velvet crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-wizard-ena-wizard-ena-wizard-dance-wizard-dance-gif-27577648

[molten relic]

When tf would u even send it

[clever path]

in downtime

when you have no cds

nothing

like old bladestorm

press in downtime

[tacit crag]

Use axe on use in place of slam

[chrome plover]

I think if you do heroic fyrakk every nothing else matters

[primal bane]

Good thing killing it on the highest difficulty give you all chance from lower so a lesser in LFR giving you a higher chance rolls over to normal and heroic

[clever path]

legit just kill it on the highest difficulty you can every week and thats it

[molten relic]

U can’t get lessers in lower difficulties

[restive peak]

Kill Fyrakk loot axe guys, that easy

[molten relic]

Only from mythic and heroic

[clever path]

who gives a fuck about greater embers that prob dont even work

just placebo

[velvet crypt]

wat

[tidal heron]

https://tenor.com/view/tinfoil-hat-gif-19189292

[velvet crypt]

That's some tinfoil shit

[molten relic]

I mean

Good chance the fyrakk kills

Give u blp on kill

And not on item use

[clever path]

i mean its plausible

[molten relic]

Which is why there’s no string found for the greaters

[clever path]

wouldnt be their first time

they did that in the past

[molten relic]

But there is one for lessers, so who tf knows how those work

[clever path]

because people made like 19 alts

and just logged in to kill and get invincible or w/e it was

[primal bane]

Or maybe they have data mined the string for greater?

[molten relic]

They would’ve

[primal bane]

Hidden string

[velvet crypt]

aintnoway we talking about 10 year old expansion

[clever path]

and if you do the entire raid u actually get blp

[primal bane]

Blizz is playing tricks on us guys

[clever path]

the point is that they did it before

[primal bane]

The axe isn’t real

[molten relic]

The on use

Seems kinda wonky

[clever path]

.

[restive peak]

Nothing is real

[velvet crypt]

Sure and they also did it for real before

[molten relic]

When tf do we even send that

[primal bane]

I haven’t gotten one have yall?

[velvet crypt]

tinfoiled up in here

[molten relic]

Gotta charge first for rage

[clever path]

in downtime

[molten relic]

But do u brick ur whole opener for it?

[clever path]

its a dps loss

it literally does less

[molten relic]

That’s what I’m saying

[clever path]

than ur rotation

[velvet crypt]

rough

[clever path]

just use it in downtime

[sinful spoke]

When u kill fyrall on heroic first do you get 2 greaters?

[molten relic]

And u also lose cdr on Of

[primal bane]

This

[sinful spoke]

If not why even go heroic first

[molten relic]

By not just sending bloodthirsty

[molten relic]

No

[primal bane]

Don’t fuck up your opener for this axe on use

[clever path]

they literally dont do anything

[sinful spoke]

Ar that point go normal use the grater

[molten relic]

Just read the blue post

No

[primal bane]

Use that shit on aoe

[dense elbow]

Fury got down time?

[sinful spoke]

Yeah okay

[clever path]

just kill fyrakk on the highest difficulty u can each week

[molten relic]

Go read the blue post

[clever path]

and stop thinking about it

[molten relic]

Heroic ember gives u cumulative boost

[clever path]

you can get it tomorrow or last week of patch

its out of your hands

[sinful spoke]

Nope

[velvet crypt]

Reading? I thought this was a wow server smh

[sinful spoke]

Im getting it today

[primal bane]

Same

[clever path]

[restive peak]

Mines in my bags already surely, just waiting for server to come up

[clever path]

how long does the quest line even take

meeres took a long ass time

with those annoying ass superblooms

[velvet crypt]

Meeres was grinding it for like 3 days

[sinful spoke]

Well 20 x 5 minutes

[velvet crypt]

rough

[primal bane]

If I don’t get the axe today I’m rerolling war to try again

[restive peak]

Nah it didn't take long once it was hotfixed

[chrome plover]

the superbloom shit was bugged when meeres got it

[restive peak]

Can we done in 6-7 hrs probably

All of it

[sinful spoke]

Oh shit do yall have 20 weapons stocked up

[restive peak]

It's all nighter time post raid

I have 40

Just incase

[velvet crypt]

He got like 10(?) after hotfix, and u need 200

[restive peak]

Ye SBs don't take long

[velvet crypt]

no

But it's time locked

[restive peak]

It's tedious

[clever path]

its every hour no

[restive peak]

Just jump into groups

GG

[velvet crypt]

ye every hour

[clever path]

i dont want it

[primal bane]

You have to stack the buff

[molten relic]

Just change ur pc time forward one hour

[clever path]

cba doing superblooms

[molten relic]

Ez

[velvet crypt]

the rare farming without having streamer priviledges is also cringe

[primal bane]

Then it speeds up

That’s what I think will take a while those stupid rares

[velvet crypt]

[sinful spoke]

Group hop

[chrome plover]

i mean sorry for the ping @atomic nymph but how did you find the quest "grind"?

not that bad right?

#fury message

u can read a bit of his conversation anyway

[meager void]

did yours friends also made a shitty alt warrior for the chance to loot leggo before you?

[primal bane]

I mean who cares how bad it is we all going to go ham to get it done

There will be all war/dk/pally superblooms and rare hunts in LFG soon enough

[dense elbow]

I just hope the on-use will be strong enough that we use it
Just stack crit/vers, big dam

[clever path]

in downtime yes if you have odyns/cds

no

[upbeat plume]

I mean its pretty potent and we're already stacking vers since we're flush on mastey

[atomic nymph]

I'll elaborate after this m+

[chrome plover]

❤️

[clever path]

yes as something to press when u are out of cds it simply doesn't deal enough damage

[upbeat plume]

I mean any on use that does damage you hit outside of cds now that's been that way since legion

Barring a couple of outliers

[chrome plover]

the current apl just charges in and uses it before cds

[clever path]

ye but it doesnt lust on pull

[chrome plover]

?

[clever path]

it just does leggo on use -> lust and full cds

[chrome plover]

yes it does

[upbeat plume]

Is the channel not affected by haste? I assume not

[chrome plover]

no, a regular 5 min patchwerk sim has lust on pull

[chrome plover]

i dont think so

[upbeat plume]

That would be consistent with similar effects in the past so makes sense, honestly sending it on rip almost guarantees it won't conflict with cds

It's a 2min cd on the leggo right?

[chrome plover]

yes

[upbeat plume]

Yeah so barring holding cds for adds (which you'd want the leggo for anyway) sending it out the gate means it won't line up with avatar and reck again till around 6min

[molten relic]

We lusted at 6min on fyrakk

[upbeat plume]

shrug lol

[molten relic]

Just feels bad that a legendary on use

Isn’t worth pressing on cd

Bc rotation downtime

Hurts

Fury problem I guess

[dense elbow]

I do agree to that, but balance I guess

[molten relic]

I mean

I guess

But it’s not like we’re top dps

[upbeat plume]

Is the leggo on use really not more valuable than 2-3gcds in a gcd locked spec

[glad sparrow]

When the cds line up at 6 mins and you're about to lust simply tell them to wait 3 secs for you to cast legendary before lust

[molten relic]

The problem is 2 bloodthirsts is potential cdr

For Of

[chrome plover]

just use the legendary before you pop reck

every time

[glad sparrow]

Then it's like your on pull opener again, wep on use into full CDS with lust

[molten relic]

U have to charge then wep

Bc the wep has a charge effect

So u want ur rage from charge

I guess

[chrome plover]

you rip it after first charge

and then on cooldown

[molten relic]

Yeah, as long as OF or regular cds not up

It’s prob same damage as 2 blood baths and a rampage

[restive peak]

It's not affected by enrage either, right?

[molten relic]

Unboosted ofc

[molten relic]

Would assume so

[dense elbow]

Do we even press it during exe phase?

[restive peak]

So no need to hold til enraged, just charge>send>enrage>pop CDs

Win

[chrome plover]

they shouldve made it interact with enrage

[golden hare]

if it's hasted it kinda is, but the mastery bonus will probably not affect it

[chrome plover]

since it's called "rage of fyralak"

[chrome plover]

i don think it's hasted

[molten relic]

It’s like 500k damage if no crits

[golden hare]

gg you know why

[molten relic]

Surely worth pressing

But losing OF cdr

Potentially

[restive peak]

Apparently not hasted lol, so it's pretty meh

[molten relic]

The dot prob makes up for the difference tho

And it’s 496

[restive peak]

Just the ilvl and passive dmg we're hyped for

[molten relic]

So net positive I guess

Leggo with 489 gorehowl soon

[dense elbow]

It is a DPS increase, question is the on-use

[upbeat plume]

I really dont think the POTENTIAL small cdr loss on odyns is greater then the on use damage

[restive peak]

It probably is outside niche situations Karchev, sadly

[golden hare]

idk it's just 2 seconds no? just press it or

[atomic nymph]

Not hasted by anything - On use questionable for ST - Damage doesnt shapshot tho so if you can consume a large # of marks in an aoe pull (Say small birds in Atal), right as they die - Damage on main target will be quite OK

[molten relic]

But it’s not just the cdr

[restive peak]

We do 500k in 2-3 globals

[molten relic]

It’s 3 seconds

U can do same damage if not more

In that time

[golden hare]

o i see

[molten relic]

Plus cdr to Of in that time

[dense elbow]

All I know is if it cries, Lego wins. So guess we gambling

... crits

[chrome plover]

you must feel so powerful with all this knowledge

[restive peak]

We all cry sometimes Funky ❤️

[golden hare]

surely it will be worth pressing....

[chrome plover]

like 20000 people asking the same questions in here

and only you can answer

[golden hare]

there's no way it won't be...

[restive peak]

49mins til we can play

[clever path]

[chrome plover]

no wayr ight?

[noble elm]

That third charge?

[restive peak]

Thank god

[upbeat plume]

It is I think people are dooming waaay to much about it

[stone aspen]

QQ: is there a weakauras such that I can see if I have bloodbath up??

[dense elbow]

🫂

[atomic nymph]

Like I wish i could just make a pinned Q&A post people can reply to with questions so i could test/answer anything people want

[noble elm]

“Mobility leggo”

[restive peak]

[clever path]

OK BUT

[golden hare]

real

[clever path]

IMAGINE EXTRA CHARGE

ON COUNCIL

[noble elm]

Go to reddit, or contact wowhead

You’ll be testing for the next year

[chrome plover]

you could contact wowhead tbh but they'll work you like a dog

[restive peak]

Don't remind me about council, fuck reclearing it tn, the only fight I truly despise so far

[atomic nymph]

Did this yday, charge 1 mob, charge next, leap third, jump last target with axe

Absolute racer

[restive peak]

Smolder was more enjoyable

[clever path]

real

smolder is a banger wdym

[noble elm]

Leggo on warsong gulch

[clever path]

people just

cant do it

[restive peak]

Smolder was a blast honestly, yeah

[noble elm]

High warlord Lindwar inc

[restive peak]

Council is just a slog, and annoying as fuck

[clever path]

its just

a massive clusterfuck

and i hate it

[restive peak]

Clunky mess

I'm kinda hyped for Tindral tn now, the nerfs seem like enough to make it more enjoyable but still super difficult, we hyped bois

[winter shoal]

Tindral was one of the worst fights I've ever done on heroic

[clever path]

why?

[winter shoal]

Laggy buggy mess and our healers couldn't figure out how to not stand in beams

[restive peak]

All of heroic is ez AF

[winter shoal]

Seeds spawning in fire

[clever path]

as it should be

[winter shoal]

I mean yeah it's not a hard fight, just ass

[dense elbow]

You do stand in the beam tho?

[restive peak]

Kinda a weak heroic tier tbh

[clever path]

raszageth was too hard for a heroic boss

sylvanas was very hard too iirc

in sod

there were aotc guilds with 200+ pulls

thats ridiculous

when like

half the mythic raid was infinitely easier than heroic end boss

[dense elbow]

Raza was a fun fight tho, 10/10 HC boss

[chrome plover]

and then there's mythic

[clever path]

[winter shoal]

Rasz intermission was also not fun

[clever path]

i loved hc rasz

[dense elbow]

I loved it all

[clever path]

god i hate sennarth

its beyond hatred at this point

[restive peak]

Rasz tier was dogwater

[clever path]

not as bad as kt tho

kt was something else

[restive peak]

It was so dogshit I quit the game for awhile in S1

[clever path]

why

[winter shoal]

Sennarth was fun until your leap bugged out with line of sight around the top of the staircase

[clever path]

vault was decent

[dense elbow]

Sylvannas is the only fight I really disliked

[restive peak]

Hated it, IDK, just didn't enjoy the fights

[golden hare]

yeah jailer was so good i think

[umbral ingot]

is anyone here progging larodar or killed it?

[clever path]

imo both warriors played like ass

until .5

arms with that cringe ass

tom sks build

[restive peak]

Larodar pretty comfy for us Vhaatra

[winter shoal]

Yeah pre-0.5 was a dumpster fire

[clever path]

fury pressing crushing blow twice at 130 rage

just wasnt fun

[umbral ingot]

we're saving only odyns fury and roar for adds right? Avatar and Reck on cd

[restive peak]

Ye it was also that, warr sucked and I didn't like the tier

[clever path]

nah warriors were good in vault

[restive peak]

You should line up fairly comfortably, I wouldn't hold DROAR

The adds should never be an issue

[atomic nymph]

Warning, might become lenghty -

Quest grind generally isn't bad, if you are prepared & have friends willing to help.

1. Disenchant epics for 20 shards, 5 min cd per use, 1-3 shards per activation.

Buy gloves from new renown vendor, disenchant. Will take you on average 30-40 min, but it'll go by without a hassle while you work on the other 2 quests.

2. Hunt down and tag rares with a quest item, no CD, repeatable on already killed rares.

This one has the potential to be really bad. What helped me was having 2 friends hopping shards with rarescanner, and then inviting me to kill the rare, without them tagging it so rarescanner would still flag on it for them.

The "Big rares" also work, such as the leviathan in the bottom corner, envoy of winter, greedy gressie.
You'll get into the groove of this rather quick and find a route you can rotate to scan for rares. Will on average need 25 rares for 50 shards, 1-3 per kill.

3. SUPERBLOOM BONANZA
   This quest man, 14 hours of superblooms.
   Most effective strategy for me was join a raid of 40, clear purple bag quick, and stay untill end. Each bag will give you some Shadeleaf, as well as the final boss of the superbloom will drop a larger amount.

Immediately after killing the final "boss", leave the raid to go back to your shard, hope the boss is still alive, and kill it there again.

Bags will periodically drop a quest starting item you can use on other players in your party. Quest will require them to open 3 superbloom bags, as well as kill the final boss of the superbloom. Afterwards they go to Ohn'aran plains to turn it in, and they will get an item that boosts your rate of quest items by 50% (This stacks). Took me 14 superblooms with 4-5 people using their leaf boost on me throughout. Buff is visible, but can disappear, but seems to remain active in a hidden state.

[umbral ingot]

like their not an issue its more just no cc or kicks kekw

[restive peak]

I mean I wouldn't adjust your CDs for your team misplaying; people need to do the mechanics and that includes CCs/Kicks lol

Ty @atomic nymph

[clever path]

iirc arms was really good in 10.0.7

one of the top specs

[dense elbow]

14 hours of superblooms

[atomic nymph]

The other follow-up quests don't have much to them, spend your gold, buy what you need. One quest requires 10 of a random awakened Air/Fire/Earth periodically - 5 min cd, 5% progress per use.

Final quest to "Tame" the handle is easy with a pocket healer. Drop your hp pool by unequipping gear and just chain press it 10- times. Tried soloing it with defensives + regenerative pot, did not work.

[clever path]

and the fights where arms was ass were council

and eranog

big scary bosses

[olive wraith]

Arms was bad on council?

Wasn’t that the cleave tier

[south kayak]

I think arms was bussin

[restive peak]

4 target cleave

So no, it wasn't that good on it

[clever path]

well it wasnt terrible

better than fury

[chrome plover]

ah so the superbloom part is kinda aids

[restive peak]

No, but it certainly wasn't S tier

[clever path]

but far belowe boomie mm spriest ele frost dk

etc

[chrome plover]

ty for the writeup

[restive peak]

Ye sounds like the bloom is the only rough part of this leggo quest

[silent burrow]

Maybe I don't want the lego

[south kayak]

Spriest on council

[clever path]

same tbh

[golden hare]

just get it in vault or

[clever path]

actually cba

[clever path]

frost dk with le breath build

[tight igloo]

That chain sounds garbage

[south kayak]

I’m actually hoping I don’t get a leggo

[clever path]

arms on sennarth was just

[atomic nymph]

Finished disenchant quest in 50 min, rare quest in 3-4 hours (with help), prob many more if you're soloing, but it goes by while you're waiting for superblooms.

Superbloom took me from 5pm to 1pm next day, with 2h missed for raid and ~6h missed for sleep

[urban tapir]

lmao yeah the superbloom makes me want to pas on the lego :p

[south kayak]

You can’t pass t

[chrome plover]

[south kayak]

The slippery boss

[dense elbow]

We all say we gonna pass, till we get the quest item

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t the only fury fight dathea and raz(arms was good too though)

[chrome plover]

I played fury on every fight

[dense elbow]

Dathea was a 1.5min add fight, Fury actually used OF

[south kayak]

What makes you think I’m gonna do the quest line if I get the legendary quest

[oblique trail]

thanks for tip I will get it tomorrow in vault

[golden hare]

😎 👍

[south kayak]

Erga eased up all of our lives with one post

Miraculous

[atomic nymph]

If you drop the axe, and never use it, it is theoretically a 496 ilvl equipable weapon that can boost your bag ilvl

[clever path]

arms was better on dathea iirc

in 10.0.7

arms just did more that patch

[south kayak]

Arms and fury in 10.1

[chrome plover]

arms did more on dathea if you did 1 platform strat and never went up

😔

[south kayak]

Arms tier was pretty strong in incarnates

[dense elbow]

[south kayak]

Compared to fury

[clever path]

nah we were destined to be meta

in 10.01

[south kayak]

Holy shit man

[clever path]

but aug happened

[olive wraith]

What was tier again?

[south kayak]

Fury tier in 10

[clever path]

arms was fucking cranking

[south kayak]

[clever path]

echo

[olive wraith]

The boosted cleave

[clever path]

lust at 35%

i get pi'd

did like 20% more boss damage than the next highest boss damage

[south kayak]

Arms?

[clever path]

65% tom

mortal strike for 700k

[olive wraith]

Ya 10.0 arms

[clever path]

peak gameplay

10.1 arms

this is garbage

[olive wraith]

I remember our shitty SD tier

[clever path]

peak gameplay

tho

was really fun

[dense elbow]

Oh the good news tier

[olive wraith]

Oh the gameplay was good

It’s just our execute tickles

[clever path]

it did something at 5 jugg stacks and with 99% crit chace

stil didnt do shit

[atomic nymph]

Oh ye more detail on this, the first few superblooms will give you 2/200 per bag, and i think 3-4 for each boss you kill. so around 10 per bloom.

Towards the end i was getting 35 per bloom for my last 2, so if you have homies ready to do the quest to help you, make them hold their bag as you typically get the quest item from the blue bag or from the boss drop. They can then use their bags to progress quest before next bloom, and can prob finish it and get back to you before next 2 boss kills

[coarse nest]

Infinite stacking jug when?

[clever path]

honestly

4p shouldve been 2p

and infinite jugg shouldve been 4p

[south kayak]

@olive wraith

[clever path]

or like 2p is reduced execute cd

and 4p is stacking damage increase

[dense elbow]

Stacking exe to 1oo% crit would still be shit tho

[coarse nest]

Jug up to 99 stacks and FR

Bring back legion when?

[dense elbow]

Old jug was fun

[south kayak]

If that happens your spec is gonna be tuned for that 99% damage thing

[chrome plover]

[south kayak]

Like it was in legion

[clever path]

damage increase not crit increase

[clever path]

furious slash

[dense elbow]

Fury got critchancce now

[south kayak]

Jugg is a bad idea

Forget it

[clever path]

yes but i meant stacking damage increase not crit chance

ashen jugg is new jugg

arms jugg is nerfed old jugg

prot has ashen i think

[dense elbow]

If you say jug in fury, talking of fury, you mean ashen

[clever path]

nope

prot has jugg

[dense elbow]

Prot got jug jug

Only fury got ashen shit

[clever path]

nah 9.2 prot was funny as shit

i mean

legion fury

[olive wraith]

Open up the servers fools I wanna see the leggo in my vault

[clever path]

was so fucking dogshit gameplay wise compared to fury atm

wow guys

furios slash!!!

furious slash guys!!

[south kayak]

Legion fury had a lot of problems

Thankfully we’re past that

[clever path]

wow argus on mythic i can maybe stack my jugg and start dealing damage!!

it was interesting and thats it

[south kayak]

The only reason fury was top 5 in statistics was because of jugg cheese

[crystal summit]

it obviously had very big downsides but it was definitely fun when it DID work out for you

[south kayak]

You stopped dps and let the fury warrior damage the boss at 20%

[crystal summit]

especially with old Battle Cry granting 100% crit

[dense elbow]

I found it fun all the way, also, ain't cheese when it was your job to end the fight

[south kayak]

[south kayak]

I mean something else

[pearl lagoon]

I liked the idea of it but it was not a useful talent because you would never stack it to 99 if your raid played good

[south kayak]

What I wrote up

[south kayak]

This

Parse farming

[dense elbow]

You dont need to reach 100% minmax potential of a talent. It simply allowed you to save a fight where someone died

Also, cheat death was fun

[south kayak]

It’s not really a cheat death, you’re gonna die after 6 seconds lol

[dense elbow]

1% proc always hype

[coarse nest]

legion.arms_revert=1

@mossy fox excuse ping, yoinked

[south kayak]

https://youtu.be/6hMqvb8QiUk?si=9cngKeCcCQ0ZUkf0

Almost 800k views

[dense elbow]

You died, get 6 sec extra pumping and getting that kill, felt really good

[coarse nest]

I watch that every Tuesday night before first pull

[south kayak]

I agree with this

Fury burst was way too short in legion

You had classes doing longer bursts

And better

[clever path]

if u are a warrior and you dont watch this once a day

you are not a warrior

[south kayak]

Firsst 6 seconds you're doing insane damage but after that you're floor pov

[dense elbow]

We had real execute dam tho. We had our moment of glory

[clever path]

arms is quite nuts atm with exe damage

[dense elbow]

Now we just mid at everything

[south kayak]

Imagine if execute cleaved off WW in legion

legion WW was so bad

cleaving only BT and rampage

and at one stack

[clever path]

legion fury

moment

[south kayak]

you just spammed WW during aoe

and used BT and rampage inbetween

after the burst at least

where ur damage is at floor pov

[fickle bluff]

wrecking ball my beloved

[dense elbow]

I spam ww this tier, literally using it on CD

[south kayak]

Annihilator WW needs to b stronger

or Storm of Swords

[dense elbow]

Nah, OF needs to be stronger

51% baseline up

[south kayak]

True

I'm not gonna disagree with a fact

[pure depot]

are the T31 4set good for fury? it does not seem to good, but i might be wrong xD

[south kayak]

It is

I think it's the best fury set this expansion

[molten relic]

Puts of down to like 25sec cd

[south kayak]

in terms of damage

or is that the lasto ne

idk

[olive wraith]

ST damage is good

[molten relic]

And shorter OF means more money in ur wallet

Bc ur not paying 4.99 for feet pics

[olive wraith]

Mt is okay

[south kayak]

Yeah

[pure depot]

xd

[south kayak]

OFF needs buff for aoe

don't @ me

[molten relic]

Wish we cleaved the boosted damahe at all 5

[molten relic]

[subtle lagoon]

uncap everything

[lavish sage]

hm

probably ring

[olive wraith]

I’m starting to pug into 20s now and some of the pulls I feel like I could be doing more

[molten relic]

Thad’s a helm

[south kayak]

Guys

[molten relic]

I’m doing like 200k overalls

[dense elbow]

Socket

[south kayak]

are we getting a catalyst charge this week

[molten relic]

But dh and BM

[olive wraith]

Cause I see BM and even demo just crank

[molten relic]

Just dumpster me

[south kayak]

or is that the next one?

[molten relic]

And demo

Next week I think

[lavish sage]

we get a catalyst this week yea?

[south kayak]

Damn

[south kayak]

go check

🙏

[molten relic]

We got 2nd charge this week

[agile tiger]

Next week bois

[unreal onyx]

no

[molten relic]

Well past week

[olive wraith]

After not seeing lok basically all last season

[molten relic]

We get spark today

[lavish sage]

ah damn

[olive wraith]

It feels weird being beaten by some

[molten relic]

Catalyst next week

[lavish sage]

i wish i could get that helmet

its bis

but i already have a myth tier helm

[unreal onyx]

well

you can take the helm

if you don't need anything else

[lavish sage]

i have a 447 neck

[dense elbow]

BiS is BiS

[south kayak]

do you do fire damage

[unreal onyx]

have bis now and use next week, or hope for bis in the weeks to come

[clever path]

bis is very unrealistic

especially on jewelery

sure fyralath is bis

[unreal onyx]

I wouldn't take the neck personally

there are better necks to farm

[south kayak]

It's a bis i'll never get

[dense elbow]

Remember when OF did fire dam? ...

[south kayak]

[lavish sage]

i have augury

so yeah

[left perch]

is this last week

[clever path]

bis makes sense when there is no competition

[lavish sage]

no its today

[clever path]

fyralath is the best str 2h in the game

the end

its bis

[left perch]

I thought vault wasn’t until 11am regardless of server

[subtle lagoon]

Think it changed to 7am?

[dense elbow]

He is the warrior dev

[lavish sage]

taking that helm is big but the neckpiece i need real bad cus 447

[left perch]

Oh interesting, word

[unreal onyx]

just wait with taking

until you did hc and maybe get tindral neck

[robust widget]

cant you craft one since 3rd spark

[lavish sage]

yea true

[unreal onyx]

or craft/farm one

[clever path]

thats a hero track neck

i wouldnt take it personally

[lavish sage]

i think ill just wait until raid tonight for tier legs

and then take the helmet

eeverything else is meh

the ring woulkdk be cool i guess

[dense elbow]

[clever path]

hero gear is farmable in m+

[dense elbow]

Good choice

[unreal onyx]

I'd rather take ring than neck 100%

[lavish sage]

the helm is mad tempting tho

[robust widget]

taking hero loot when you have myth loot feels so poop

[floral oak]

brh neck has better stats anyway

taking heroic raid neck is trolling

[unreal onyx]

unless augury

[clever path]

hero track isnt worth taking

in vault

since its farmable

[proper peak]

double tier, not bad

[clever path]

unless its raid trinkets

augury is myth it doesnt count

[robust widget]

well augury would be myth loot too

[clever path]

signet is def worth

[clever path]

i'd take the legs

highest stat pbudget

[weak forge]

did we get another catalyst charge this week?

[unreal onyx]

no

every spark week is no catalyst week

[proper peak]

exactly my plan

[unreal onyx]

so it's changing every time

[clever path]

wait