fury

[desert cloud]

Peepos is it worth to macro spear with avatar

And which one should i put first

[pulsar prawn]

Apm diff kinda

[flat river]

Honestly no idea

I fuck up spear

[desert cloud]

I wanna max dmmg

Idk if it’s worth pressing on 1 macro or i keep them on seperate buttons like i do now

[wild mural]

no

opener is charge > reck > spear/roar > OF > ramp > BB > ramp > BB > Avatar

something like that

but you delay the avatar till the avatar buff from OF drops off

putting spear and reck together is worth tho

atleast, imo

but take what I say with a pinch of salt cause Im a dumb dumb

[silent burrow]

Pretty sure it's reck charge ramp of spear bb ramp bb ava ramp bb ramp bb etc

[wild mural]

yeah that's a better way of doing it

but my way is to minimise buttons while still being effective

I need to get some food

but I dont have anything in

[clever path]

does bloodbath count as a proc for tier set ?

[warm crag]

???

[wild mural]

???

[warm crag]

ur opening unenraged ??

[wild mural]

fuck yeah I am

💪

[clever path]

.

[dense elbow]

BB is BT, BT is bb

[wild mural]

does reck not enrage you

[dense elbow]

Nop

[wild mural]

this games dumb

wtf

[dense elbow]

[covert blaze]

freedom

[wild mural]

therefore I peaked

[clever path]

does bloodbath get the crit from tier set ? or you need to use bloodthirst

[wild mural]

yes bb works

thats why we run ra

[clever path]

whats ra

[warm crag]

reckless abandon

[wintry comet]

ZUG ZUG

[dense elbow]

Zug Zug

[clever path]

i thought u need to use bloodthirst exclusively for the tier to work with the crit

[dense elbow]

BB is BT, BT is bb

[clever path]

right

i got the greater essence of fyralath rn

when do i use ?

[warm crag]

now

[dense elbow]

I already consumed em, cause why not

Bug gotta be fixed by now

[clever path]

does it have an expire counter ?

[warm crag]

what bug

[clever path]

or its goes away when u kill fyrakk

[warm crag]

it doesnt go away

thats kinda the point of bad luck protection

[dense elbow]

It goes away after you get the legendary

[clever path]

so basically you consume it and it increases drop chance in the background

[dense elbow]

Yep yep

[clever path]

smart blizz

I'm doing ok

lets say i get it dropped from osmething like normal diff

[dense elbow]

From 0.01% to 0.011%

[clever path]

am i going to be fighting for drop roll ?

Too bad I'm short on time most days

[warm crag]

no its personal loot

you should probably read the bluepost about it

[clever path]

oh thank god

I think it's only tradable on mythic

At least that's something I had heard

[warm crag]

it can drop additionally and seperately as group loot from mythic fyrakk

[clever path]

Probably for the world first guilds

Ahhh

[dense elbow]

Mythic it got a low chance to drop, and personal

[clever path]

so basically guaranteed fyralath next week

[dense elbow]

For sure

[clever path]

Did you say a prayer to the RNG gods

[dense elbow]

50/50 after all

[clever path]

where are warrior on the tier list if they have it ?

A+ ? S?

[dense elbow]

I say F

[clever path]

For fury

[warm crag]

you need to stop basing your life and opinions around tier lists lol

[clever path]

its statistics mate

[plucky ice]

its a meme

[clever path]

some classes are just better than others

I play warrior because it's fun

[dense elbow]

Well if you want stats

You gotta wait

[silent burrow]

Yes tier lists are known for their basis in statistics

[dense elbow]

Cause there are no stats yet

[languid girder]

kekW

[clever path]

i wont play a dead ass spec just cuz its fun

affliction warlock for example

[warm crag]

then go dh

[clever path]

kek

[dense elbow]

Go DH

[warm crag]

there is nothing here for you

[clever path]

nah i love fury mate thats the thing

always did

[clever path]

I don't speak twitch is that sarcasm lol

[languid girder]

it is

[clever path]

i love being a 2 button god

[inner zinc]

I wouldnt roll DH. Theres a planet killer meteor named nerf bat straight on its way to planet DH

[dense elbow]

Go BM

[languid girder]

[warm crag]

yeah a what 3% aoe nerf? crazy

[clever path]

i main warlock

warrior is my 2nd love idk

maybe shaman third or dk

[dense elbow]

War, you love war

[clever path]

yeah ukraine russia all that

[silent burrow]

dk is down so bad

unless you plan on tanking lol

[dense elbow]

DK seems aight to me

[fading sky]

Lel dk above war on dmg

[clever path]

isnt unholy based tho

[fading sky]

Even 2h frost sims above fury?

[dense elbow]

Who doesn't?

[fading sky]

Arms

[flat sapphire]

Fury best spec

[fading sky]

Affliction

[covert blaze]

there's more than numbers to the game

[fading sky]

Fury is very strong imho

[fading bane]

who tf cares about sim numbers tho

[fading sky]

In raid encounters qnd veeery tanky atm

[dense elbow]

Very strong is taking it a bit far, solid for sure. Get the job done with a good margin

[fading bane]

best ST spec according to sims, never worst rogue spec in RWF

[covert blaze]

people that will never perform anyway

[fading sky]

All of us?

[silent burrow]

dk is cool if you are in a draught of places to send PI and one actually lands on you lol

[pearl lagoon]

I’m pretty sure the outlaw sims are cooked

[silent burrow]

But rogue exists so gl

[pearl lagoon]

Assuming god rolls or something idk

[fading bane]

it shouldnt

thats why u got 10000s of itterations

[pearl lagoon]

Yeah, but I don’t think it’s actual performance matches what the sims for it

[fading sky]

Rogue is fine tuning is ongoing

Dh tuning not bonked enough

[left perch]

Isn’t dk buffed tomo

[silent burrow]

You're drunk if you think dh more broken than rog in raid lol

[fading bane]

yes

[fading sky]

Not raid no m+

[silent burrow]

And there's literally already rogs doing more damage than that sim in ST in raid lol

[fading sky]

But rogue is being looked at

Also @silent burrow im in hospital high on paun meds...

[lunar cape]

This difference between dh and rogue is rogue actually takes some skill

[fading sky]

Soo i am cooked🤣

[left perch]

Do their sims include prescience and EM uptime?

[plucky ice]

true, any monkey can play dh

[silent burrow]

doubt it

[left perch]

because if I see a yellow, I buff it

[dense elbow]

Any monkey can play any spec, by that logic

[plucky ice]

no i mean dh is a monkey class

[desert cloud]

This doesn’t make sense at all

[chrome plover]

real

[silent burrow]

Was just pointing it out cause it was said the sims are cooked. And uhhh them deals are fucking cranking lol

[desert cloud]

Where is ur mfking enrage

[wild mural]

Enrage is for the weak

[lunar cape]

Looks like on ramp

[covert blaze]

yeah syi that opener is cooked

[wild mural]

Just do dps 💪

[chrome plover]

syi

what happened to u

[dense elbow]

Poor Syi, ppl gonna point to that forever

[desert cloud]

Syi has down syndrom

[chrome plover]

?

[desert cloud]

Don’t mind her or him perma down bad for dps

[wild mural]

Yeah man I only managed to get 1 pink last tier

[pearl lagoon]

Yeah but the ones really popping off are all assassination rogues, which is simming lower than outlaw

[lunar cape]

From what I hear outlaw needs a bit of rng luck with their bones to be op

[chrome plover]

sims should account for that though

does 100k iterations or w/e

[silent burrow]

Sin gains more from PI than outlaw

fwiw

[wild mural]

I just press buttons

[chrome plover]

true, sin is getting pi

[silent burrow]

100%

[dense elbow]

Sums will show you the most avg DPS. In your raid you will see someone get god RNG and crush sims

[clever path]

I find throne of tides funny because I get to see my DPS jump over 1million

[silent burrow]

If you have a sin rogue in your raid and he isn't the pi target it's full INT

[unreal onyx]

nothing in tot is funny

it's just pure agony

[dense elbow]

ToT is fun, wdum

[clever path]

I have a good team

[covert blaze]

i like tot

[chrome plover]

i dont mind it

[wild mural]

I did 1 key this week

[chrome plover]

I did 8 keys on wednesday

[unreal onyx]

but tbf, pugging any key that is not atal is agony

[chrome plover]

[unreal onyx]

although

[wild mural]

I did a 17 AD

[chrome plover]

god im so glad i hit the lottery with my pugs idk

[unreal onyx]

atal totem boss with pugs is also so bad

[chrome plover]

only 2 or 3 pug disasters this entire season

over 100 keys pugged

[wild mural]

Every key is a disaster

[unreal onyx]

I love having rogues pop every CD they have on a totem and kill it with 30% on others remaining

or hunters not letting their pets off them

[wild mural]

This is why I cba to farm a hero track peeper

[unreal onyx]

yea I don't need it as bad anymore

but I am down bad for a weapon

[wild mural]

I also just… cba to farm it

[dense elbow]

Yesterday I was in a PuG 18, with 4 ppl that had never done ToT before. Took 20 min over time and me explaining a lot
Was fun tho, cause they got lost in ToT over and over

[unreal onyx]

and brh and tot is bad to pug

[chrome plover]

brh is bad to pug?

[silent burrow]

You sure?

[chrome plover]

I think that dungeon is a joke

[covert blaze]

brh is hard to pug

people dont cc/interrupt shit

[fading sky]

In sims🤣

[chrome plover]

these are all pugged brh...

seems fine to me

[wild mural]

Why

[chrome plover]

for neck

[covert blaze]

neck

i just got mine like a half hour ago

[wild mural]

Again

Why

[chrome plover]

ended up buying it off a priest for 150k

[left perch]

Chawie has big shoulders tho

[chrome plover]

[dense elbow]

Worth

[fading bane]

honestly if u need that many runs

[silent burrow]

I got neck on myth track in my box

[fading bane]

just skill issue

[chrome plover]

yeah ikr

[fading bane]

it drops for everyone

just scheme

gaslight them into thinking its bad for them

[chrome plover]

saw 7 drop i think

in 30 runs

only 1 tradeable and he "needed" it so i had to pay

gold is meaningless at least

[dense elbow]

Gold lets you do what you just did

So it got some purpose

[chrome plover]

first time i ever bought a drop off of someone

felt dirty

guess wow is another shit p2w gacha game now gg

[wild mural]

Gg time to quit

[weak vapor]

Yeah shit DH, nice rekt

single or aoe?

nice overall damn

Yea it will nerf hope so. i saw DH yearserday HC litterly do 335-400 single target on boss DH so digusting xcd

xd

[gilded pawn]

350k st

Mans playing double sim numbers

[subtle lagoon]

M+, throne

[weak vapor]

im glad to see u do alot dmg

fury actually always beast xd

[weak vapor]

can u send me ur stats please

im still abit doubt

[covert blaze]

🚨 throne overall 🚨

[silent burrow]

no shit lol

[quaint stag]

Saving cds to pad overall on last boss >

[sterile stratus]

Gotta look good for the boys in discord

[quaint stag]

I had a shaman do that the other day. He was 30k less than me overall until last phase of that boss

[subtle lagoon]

Details doesn't take last boss into account smart asses

[clever path]

If it's not about the numbers why are people flexing their logs and Rio scores?

[lunar cape]

Must have been on the last boss of eb or tot

[covert blaze]

what?

seek help

[clever path]

But it's true tho

[silent burrow]

We cappin in here today

[latent ledge]

I love how my 2nd warr got Rezan on the first AD 19 I do 💀

[plucky ice]

imagine caring about rio numbers which literally give u nothing

[chrome plover]

nerf fury

[weak vapor]

stats prioty stats on overall

some say crit is bad

[clever path]

Example 1

[weak vapor]

and increase mastery vers haste and crit will be last

[weak vapor]

ye it evoker i hate aug xd

[subtle lagoon]

When I get back home, I think I'm around 20 crit

[latent ledge]

Usually the worst players I have played with are the ones with more rio 🤷

[weak vapor]

yea me2 got 22%

[chrome plover]

i have no rio score it was a joke

[silent burrow]

I'm like... 2200 lol

[clever path]

Play with ppl that are 3000+

See the difference

These mfs are wild

[silent burrow]

Some day I might play with someone that good

it'll be crazy

[latent ledge]

Tbf 3k its not big r.io rightn ow

[covert blaze]

doing keys all day means you are good at the game

surely

[clever path]

Bruv

If you have done 30 +21

[dense elbow]

Buff DH

[gilded pawn]

40/40/10/10

[clever path]

U surely aren't bad

[gilded pawn]

Good stats

[latent ledge]

21 are a joke

[clever path]

I said +

[latent ledge]

you can easily get carried on 21s nowadays

[covert blaze]

21 is a joke

[latent ledge]

21-22

[chrome plover]

I have a friend that's 3.2 and he's a monkey

[lunar cape]

If they are all ad you are

[clever path]

22 23 24 25 to 29's

[covert blaze]

i dont know what youre on about but you need to find god

[left perch]

why do we have the same 3 conversations every day guys

[clever path]

Bruv u said the game isn't bout numbers but ppl flex details Rio and logs

[covert blaze]

stop looking at numbers and play the game

[left perch]

like fr

[clever path]

Are you daft

[silent burrow]

I timed 21s on my 450ilvl alt lol

[chrome plover]

groundhog channel

[gilded pawn]

Boost me

[dense elbow]

Last season anything to 24-25 was free. This season it prob will be the same

[silent burrow]

no me

[clear thicket]

fek, I was happy I did 147k overall last night on a BRH run.

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/its-groundhog-day-again-reporting-news-bill-murray-groundhog-day-gif-10873928

[clear thicket]

[covert blaze]

you completely misunderstood my message

and i cba explaining it to someone like you

[clever path]

Go explore elwynn forest then

[silent burrow]

I don't know if that's in the game or a movie

[dense elbow]

Explain it to me then

[chrome plover]

i swear you two are agreeing

[covert blaze]

51% buff good

[chrome plover]

but with hostility

just kiss already

[clever path]

Mfs thinks this Disney storytelling company is something else than numbers

[dense elbow]

It good

[stuck bison]

Just get a room

[silent burrow]

is that forest in lord of the rings or in wow lol

[wild mural]

[silent burrow]

[proud crown]

I dont make the cut

[chrome plover]

bro you never been for a cheeky roleplay sesh in goldshire

[scarlet swift]

How does the person on the right have more signet uptime than the left, if the left person had more active% during volcoross?

[chrome plover]

rng

[clever path]

What percentile is that ?

From the player base

[silent burrow]

Is that place also in lord of the rings

the shire

[scarlet swift]

2.7mil dmg rng?

[restive jungle]

Rng is rng

High and low rolls

[covert blaze]

there's more than 1 shire

[silent burrow]

idk man I just bonk tbh

[covert blaze]

when are the healing logs coming canhas

[restive jungle]

Look at the dmg difference of the people lol

[silent burrow]

I need to acquire leech

[coarse nest]

My fury is only simming 197k on average, droptimizer tells me there are only .1-.2% upgrades. From 470 gear I assume that’s because it only simulates one at a time with my current gear

[scarlet swift]

@restive jungle signet is just a ring proc though isnt it? its not based on dmg?

[coarse nest]

Should I just hunt the Blood mallet gear and then start simming again

[chrome plover]

if you're using dromtimiser it's just 1 at a time, yes

you can gear compare to add specifics

[clever path]

Big ilvl haste mastery good zug

[restive jungle]

If someone is doing that much more dmg…. There’s a difference…. What difficulty are the trinkets

[scarlet swift]

one is champ, one is hero

[dense elbow]

Vers/mast good, zugzug

[restive jungle]

That matters

[coarse nest]

Yeah sim wants the BRH neck

[restive jungle]

Plus his trinket has hit 80 more times than yours lol

[coarse nest]

I have to much Crit on my fury set

[restive jungle]

Meaning your not hitting as much to proc

[clever path]

Smells like arms respec to me

[silent burrow]

I had this problem too

[proud crown]

link the logs? that doesnt really show the whole story. Combat time and stack amount play a part in its dmg

[coarse nest]

I am an arms main yes.

I like to flex both however

For the fun

[dense elbow]

More crit, the more OF resets. More OF crits. Sounds like win/win

[clever path]

It's dogshit to swap fury and arms

[scarlet swift]

one is normal volc, the other is mythic volc

[restive jungle]

Yes timing of the fight

Normal dies in 2 seconds lol

Mythic doesn’t

[coarse nest]

Arms sims about 210k fury is very behind

[restive jungle]

So more ramp time

[scarlet swift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tJX3G2NP6H7yMZLV#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=2 this is my shitty signet

[coarse nest]

I assume it’s the Crit

[covert blaze]

[scarlet swift]

this is the op signethttps://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4nDY7ZCwQtg681d2#fight=56&type=damage-done&source=47

its about a 1 minute difference

1 minute isnt 366k vs 3.91 mil

[restive jungle]

1 min is a lot once it’s ramped up

[scarlet swift]

4 mil in 1 minute?

[chrome plover]

I have like 5k crit

[restive jungle]

The ilvl difference and 1 min fight time

[scarlet swift]

i got 380k in 3 minutes

[restive jungle]

Yours is weaker

[chrome plover]

all my myth pieces are crit heavy

[restive jungle]

And less time after ramped

[proud crown]

thats 90s longer

[silent burrow]

I'm glad I'm not the only one this happened to lol

[coarse nest]

I want like 60% mastery or something right? And like 30% ish haste

With current obtainable ilvl

[dense elbow]

Ngl, crit might not be better than versa, but it is more fun

[scarlet swift]

so signet is basically dogshit in anything normal?

[clever path]

In raid fury SMACKS arms

Only viable fight for arms is council

[fading bane]

if a boss dies in a min

ye its not good

[coarse nest]

Signet is pretty good I have it at 483

[robust rock]

fight too short = signet not very gud

[restive jungle]

I mean it don’t get to ramp

[coarse nest]

It’s not good In short fights no

[restive jungle]

It’s free dmg regardless but it’s not amazing shorter fights

[coarse nest]

If it doesn’t get to rank to the full 15 stacks

[chrome plover]

not that much haste

[coarse nest]

Even less hey?

[chrome plover]

but just sim

[modest condor]

you want to sim top gear

[coarse nest]

I do sim all the time

I’m well aware

[chrome plover]

I have like 33 haste and the robot tells me “haste bad vers mastery giga”

So I follow robot

🫡

[unreal onyx]

real

[wraith current]

Hello, I am looking into crafting a weapon, I see that there is a mace with a DMG activation and SIMC clearly says it is the best to craft, should I go for it or is there any strange behavior ?

[coarse nest]

Right it wants me to run the mastery writs on my weapons lol

[clever path]

Why are all the logs showing that arms is actually worse than fury ?

[chrome plover]

that’s normal

[restive jungle]

Don’t craft a weapon imho

[chrome plover]

because it is aside from council

[wraith current]

(Shadowred Razing Annihilator is the name of the weapon)

[proud crown]

also crit's running double Wafting Devotion on weapons and has more base haste so trinket procs more

[restive jungle]

Crafting weap cost 2 sparks. Just do dungeons for weapon

Or first boss in raid

[dense elbow]

Because the better players play Fury

[clever path]

Zug zug

[fading bane]

wep craft is literally pointless

[wraith current]

Hmm ok, guides seem to push to a first weapon craft though but I get it is strange

[clever path]

It's kinda good with aspects no?

Especially for fury

[restive jungle]

Why tho? You can get weapons easier

[warm crag]

its 3 ilvls above upgrading a hero track item

[coarse nest]

Do not craft a weapon in any situation

[restive jungle]

Craft items

Not weapons

[chrome plover]

2 sparks is worth way more elsewhere

[clever path]

I mean 2 myth tracks weapons is a reach this early

[wraith current]

Ok

[coarse nest]

You don’t have two 483 weapons?

[wraith current]

Thanks for the advise guys !

[dense elbow]

Gnarlroot drop it and m+ is 483

[unreal onyx]

I have a 476 and 450

[warm crag]

ashkandur very powerful

[chrome plover]

need to play more

[coarse nest]

Oof start farming champ!

[dense elbow]

483 and 447

[unreal onyx]

im lowkey just banking on weekly hc clear + gnarlroot

[coarse nest]

I got the first gnarlroot

Gear compare lets me build a gear set to sim? I actually haven’t played with that tab to much if I’m being honest.

[gilded pawn]

Yeah

[ember apex]

my guild didnt let me kill igira or council so my mythic vault wouldnt be f*cked until i got a mythic 2h

[chrome plover]

yes

[gilded pawn]

You are just manually keying in gear

[modest condor]

we got 3 agi trinkets from our gnarlroot kill this week

oh wait no was that igira?

[scarlet swift]

do you guys just leave these as-is?

[proud crown]

how do you get a vault then?

[ember apex]

u can ignore OCE

i killed

um

hold on

[modest condor]

we dont use any of those trinkets so it doesnt matter

[proud crown]

the bosses after igira that unlock their drop tables?

[ember apex]

i killed volcoross and gnarlroot

[proud crown]

[chrome plover]

You aren’t using any of those probably

[ember apex]

but i wasnt in on council or igira

[scarlet swift]

how do i delete from raidbots?

[chrome plover]

wdym

[proud crown]

killing Volcoross should unlock previous bosses

[chrome plover]

they don’t do anything if you don’t have those trinkets, so just leave them

[scarlet swift]

ahh, ok

[ember apex]

idk if igira is considered a previous boss technically

[chrome plover]

It will unlock igira loot but not council

[chrome plover]

It is

[tardy lark]

You can’t kill volcoross without killing iota

[scarlet swift]

oof

[ember apex]

oh true i guess

deez?

[tardy lark]

So you have igira in loot table as well

[ember apex]

hopefully i get a 2h from m+ vault then or mythic raid

i did 8x +20s-24s this week

so fingers crossed

either that or heroic signet

[proud crown]

🙏

[spare otter]

Hopefully I get leggo from vault

🙏

[ember apex]

that'd be sick

[chrome plover]

we didn’t kill Smoldy so no mythic brand

[tardy lark]

Signet kinda blows on a lot of the bosses sadly

[warm crag]

it wouldnt have dropped anyways :D

[proud crown]

Hopefully I get lego for christmas

[scarlet swift]

i got the axe from fyrakk

[chrome plover]

in vault

[warm crag]

it wont be there either

stop coping silly

[meager void]

is it too taxing on mythic prog?

[chrome plover]

well now it won’t because we inted for 3h

[spare otter]

Honestly feel like signet dmg is mid af

[tardy lark]

Fights are either too short or uptime too low

It omega giga blows on tindral

[scarlet swift]

i took the signet in my first vault, kinda regret, i'd rather have Rezan and ToTT trinket

but it had tert

[warm crag]

epic

[ember apex]

i demanded week 1 normal mode signet brand when it dropped

[proud crown]

gz on avoidance

[scarlet swift]

why does it cap at 121648?

[ember apex]

vers formula?

[meager void]

this seems way too low for 462 with 4pc, no?

[eternal sundial]

I mean 462 isnt very high gear

But ye

[proud crown]

I dont think its 9474 per stack, just 9474-121648 from 0-15

[scarlet swift]

dunno what to tell ya, its my sim

[chrome plover]

based

[regal elm]

Fury war math

[scarlet swift]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xt4iQXZB8pk6gzYiKsYzQd

[spare otter]

Why SIM at that ilvl

Just get gear bro

[regal elm]

Dont even have to droptimize

[scarlet swift]

if it dropped

[regal elm]

[proud crown]

seems normal for no spear/WFT/467 wep

[spare otter]

Imagine being able to droptimize all dungeons

[eternal sundial]

So basically u have zero mastery

[scarlet swift]

we play a 10man, its literally 2 bosses per raid kill

[spare otter]

Couldn't be me since I ain't paying a sub for that

[eternal sundial]

Go grab some

[regal elm]

Leeching of guildies

[eternal sundial]

I am leeching off of my officer 2 guilds ago

[spare otter]

Whaaaat

I've recently become a big fan of communism

So you wanna share?

[wet acorn]

What are you sharing in return

[chrome plover]

classic

[scarlet swift]

gnarlroot 2h bis for fury? besides legando?

[spare otter]

Family.

[chrome plover]

i still see a guy who got kicked from our guild like a year ago on mine

i respect the hustle

[eternal sundial]

I left the guild cuz of a loot issue ironically

Oh and the guild doesnt exist anymore but the account sure does

[warm crag]

lore

[eternal sundial]

Lootcouncil announced, turns into "who needs this pls roll"

[ember apex]

you need to demand loot otherwise u wont ever get anything

[eternal sundial]

Insta leave cba that shit

[warm crag]

lmao

[eternal sundial]

Cringe

[summer quail]

gorehowl 489 is prob better by s

[proud crown]

man what I would do to have that

[summer quail]

by a small amount

[spare otter]

I tried to demand for igira ring

Got shot down

[summer quail]

but gl getting gorehowl in vault

[quiet geyser]

Isnt signet our BiS trinket?

[eternal sundial]

Demanding is stupid go and help ur team by doing lc right

[scarlet swift]

Signet is too inconsistent for me @quiet geyser

it may be bis, its great when its great, but its inconsistent

[proud crown]

on 5m ST is good

[spare otter]

Idk I demand by pressing bis on lc

In fact I've pressed bis for shit I cant even use yet

[weak vapor]

what actually fuck, is that single target dmg?. something im missing ? :S

[ember apex]

i told my buddy who trialed at a CE guild (hasn't played retail since wrath). first boss he was in on, was about to die and i told him to say over discord "give me those items"

[spare otter]

Kinda feel bad

[scarlet swift]

@weak vapor have you tried equipping weapons

[eternal sundial]

Raidbuffs

[gilded pawn]

And weapons

[mossy fox]

raid buffs and dancing blades

[meager void]

it says 3min 1t?

[weak vapor]

ye its already auto equip

[mossy fox]

you have titanic rage

[gilded pawn]

Show weapons

[chrome plover]

did smoldy die

[weak vapor]

i disable all raid buff only battle shout

[chrome plover]

idk what days u raid

[weak vapor]

and 3min on boss raid

[mossy fox]

yep

[chrome plover]

gz

[mossy fox]

i inted on last intermission tho

[warm crag]

noob

[proud crown]

[chrome plover]

we got 5% but a lot of trolling

it should have died

[summer quail]

why do you disable all buffs and put 3m tho @weak vapor

[mossy fox]

ye brainlag and used lock gate too early

[chrome plover]

womp womp

[weak vapor]

well im kinda newbie simc hehhe

[warm crag]

cant wait for tindral prog to not matter as soon as wednesday hits

[gilded pawn]

Then don’t change anything

[summer quail]

just do all buffs and dancing blades

and 5m

[meager void]

there's a lot of "creative thinking" about sims this morning

[scarlet swift]

my sims are just garbo 😄

[mossy fox]

we're also about to get destroyed by tindral tonight

[weak vapor]

dancing blade ok dident choose that

[summer quail]

crit, did you figure out the spear timing after a while?

[chrome plover]

yeah tbh no point killing smoldy because tindral impossible

kinda smart play

from us

[proud crown]

also is that 10% corrupting rage uptime?

[mossy fox]

if you want to compare your sims to others, sim 5 min patchwerk with all raid buffs

[weak vapor]

okay will i try simc then. nothing change than choose wich best. got alot rings hero and gears.

but i cann

cannot choose all gears i want right?

[eternal sundial]

I mean no on else sims those so you cant compare numbers

[gilded pawn]

Pls just click reset to default

[proud crown]

please reset to default sim settings

[gilded pawn]

I sim like this

To cope

When I parse green

[eternal sundial]

Hoooly

[gilded pawn]

I’m like “this is my sim number there’s nothing I could’ve done”

[weak vapor]

so i choose to many gears xd

[summer quail]

should sim double legendary to get the highest numbers, they aren't unique 🙂

[gilded pawn]

Pay 5 dollars

[weak vapor]

hahah

wish to

[meager void]

its $3 actually

[stark apex]

yea its 3 dollars, and worth it

[proud crown]

🤓

[left perch]

critcake you will love tindy i hear

[mossy fox]

maybe i overestimated people when i tell them to just use raidbots, it's easy

[left perch]

just not 1 specific mechanic

[meager void]

lol

[stark apex]

what the cuss

[scarlet swift]

green parsing? dont look at the top left, but i orange parse my fights

[weak vapor]

is that real Critcake or ?

[summer quail]

yes lol

[spare otter]

3 dollars ain't worth it

[weak vapor]

i saw ur dmg season 2

u make me blast pugs m+ season 2 😄

[spare otter]

That's like a MC Donald's burger

[ember apex]

why are ppl still playing arms

[weak vapor]

always top

[eternal sundial]

Fun and good

[ember apex]

on tindral do they have a root break every set?

[golden hare]

it's better to piss in the sink than sink in the piss

[summer quail]

arms is fun

[silent burrow]

basically

[ember apex]

lul

the big draw w/ arms is the massive hits but we get that now with the fury tierset

[spare otter]

Thank you for opening my eyes to that

[stark apex]

the warrior gospel

[weak vapor]

what fury single target has be if it decent or great

[gilded pawn]

Real

[robust rock]

fury = arms on ST now

difference is minimal

[blissful thistle]

guys can we use or still bug?

[chrome plover]

👼 🙏

[chrome plover]

u can use

bug not real

[eternal sundial]

If you run DB and bloodcraze in keys you can pretend ur tuned well

[weak vapor]

seems better

[eternal sundial]

[blissful thistle]

ty

[eternal sundial]

Bro crafted weapon

[weak vapor]

Yeah iw as stupid

:/

shudnt

[modest condor]

it's whatever man

[eternal sundial]

Youll get ur embells in 4 weeks dw

[ember apex]

u never craft a weapon if mythic first boss has 2h

imo

[eternal sundial]

That's not the reason but go off

[ember apex]

that isnt the reason like i said

[weak vapor]

yeah shud craft back and wrist istead-.-

[modest condor]

people fixate on minmaxing way too hard when we're 2 weeks into the season and most people will probably spend another 5 months progging

[chrome plover]

^^

[ember apex]

3 weeks about to be 4 weeks

[modest condor]

same thing

[ember apex]

dont correct me

[chrome plover]

don’t let the crackheads in here get to you

[ember apex]

(jk btw) if its not obvious

[chrome plover]

enjoy your 486 weapon and vibe

(especially Carlo)

[jovial coral]

Nuh uh

[ember apex]

i dont thin ki have a 486 actually

sec

[meager gyro]

Smf 2pc sims the same as TG RB t30 does for me 😂 cool now I can play smf

[weak vapor]

my weapon is 476

[chrome plover]

486 is the crafted one

[ember apex]

483 <_<

[weak vapor]

ops i mean 486 xd

[chrome plover]

489 here

[meager gyro]

Cursed EU name crafter

[edgy oasis]

random question: is 1.2k dps worth 1ilvl ?? Parse bracket etc 🙂

[lavish grove]

Wdym?

Ah, parse andy

[stark apex]

u think ilvl parce matters?

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-laugh-laughing-tom-cruise-gif-4247138

[meager gyro]

Shut up y'all ilvl parse matters, that's why I haven't upgraded my tier gear

[polar trail]

Ilvl parse aka lack of commitment parse

[chrome plover]

ilvl parse early season is even more fucked than regular ilvl parse

[edgy oasis]

any sensible gamers out there capable of answering a question?

[chrome plover]

just unequip boots and get rank 1 every boss

[meager gyro]

I do have 6 warriors, ilvl parse only thing I can do ATM because I don't even m+ farm for gear on any of them 🪓🪓

[chrome plover]

more damage is always worth it in my eyes

but I don’t gear specifically for ilvl parses so the entire concept is strange to me

[gilded pawn]

Optimizing ilevel parses

Is using your higher ilevel weapon offhand

[chrome plover]

yeah you can make changes to force ilvl down and damage up that are inefficient but pretty much guarantee a high ilvl rank so

[eternal sundial]

I had an alt mage purely for ilvl logs was funny

[balmy shore]

don’t worry about parse just play well kill boss no?

[silent gazelle]

coward

[void blade]

I have just started not caring about ilvl parse and just go to pump. Whatever is an upgrade I use.

[clever path]

anyone got the string for the lego BLP?

[sullen wagon]

Which is the good mindset

[clever path]

twas a good weekend, got rezans and gorehowl

[meager void]

caring about ilvl parse? wtf

[balmy shore]

show parses then

[eternal sundial]

Ilvl logs my beloved (least padded senarth )

[weak vapor]

btw make it different when choosing 1 boss or 4 boss?. if i go m+ for example and aoe spec. always stay 1 boss ?

[spiral oasis]

I feel like I'm doing some pretty poor damage on fury transitioning from arms and I'm wondering if there are any pitfalls or common mistakes I could be making. Any advice? Can't post logs, just looking for general tips as an arms player trying out fury.

[eternal sundial]

Rampage more, bt more

CDs on cd

The usual tbf

[stark apex]

become a sensible gamer yourself and then start asking sensible questions if you want sensible answers smh my head

[wild mural]

boss damage parses my beloved (actually least padded sennarth)

[edgy oasis]

STRIKE TWO!

[vale token]

IMHO, Impact of apm is most of the time under estimated for people re-spec to fury

[edgy oasis]

Anyone care to follow me?

[spiral oasis]

I've been keeping whirlwind up and I understand the opener and rotation of the 4piece, could it just be a matter of gear and stats?

[eternal sundial]

Arms apm is equal so that wont be their issue

[stark apex]

are you gonna leave the disc when we hit strike three?

[eternal sundial]

So more about aoe or st?

[spiral oasis]

More bout m+

[balmy shore]

:waiting:

[spiral oasis]

I feel like my boss damage is consistent.

[eternal sundial]

In aoe it's very very important to rip roar/of enraged it's easy to forget but crucial

[barren dagger]

The boss’s health doesn’t care about your parse

[chrome plover]

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

[eternal sundial]

of enraged only applies if dancing blades (based)

[scarlet sapphire]

So the overall parse is more "important" then the ilvl parse, always thought ilvl parse Is the one that shows how good I perform for my ilvl/against people with the same ilvl.

[balmy shore]

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

[eternal sundial]

Say at 466 you could be 2p2p or 4p goated trinkets and all sockets n shit

The gap is too wide to actually judge

[balmy shore]

ilvl parsing is funky

[eternal sundial]

You get a 100 for ilvl if u parse 100 remember that

[modest condor]

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

[scarlet sapphire]

But with 480 I will mostly have people with the "same" gear or at least full tierset

[eternal sundial]

Even 480 isnt equal

[modest condor]

i got rank 2 ilvl parse on council

[eternal sundial]

Brand + augury or idk branch vs random m+ shit for ilvl

[ember apex]

im running signet brand and rezan's

[gilded pawn]

I’ve seen a 99 and 0 for ilevel

[ember apex]

i miss manic grieftorch

[hardy cargo]

Yall get anything other than 0? Hmm

[barren dagger]

Chances are the people with your ilvl are competent if it’s quite high so it’s a completely different metric

[eternal sundial]

Remember pieces jailer log

One moonkin 100 other 0

[scarlet sapphire]

Same, the unholy Dk in my raid parses 70-90 in overall parses but mostly Grey in ilvl and he feels pretty bad about it

[ember apex]

lul

[gilded pawn]

Nothing you can do

That’s the only 2 ppl who cleared

[paper ivy]

does every raid boss u kill

increase the chance for dropping the legendery

[ember apex]

i remember how mad moonbois were when WCL removed non kill target damage from castle nathria council from logs

[stark apex]

if u get the shadowflame essence yes

[warm crag]

read the bluepost about it

[ember apex]

if i clear heroic again in the same week i know i cant get gear but can i get the BLP

[stark apex]

no? the blp is from looting

[ember apex]

i would prob do like 10 full clears/week if that were the case

until i got it

but yeah that would never work

[scarlet swift]

just an average warrior

[robust rock]

above average

[ember apex]

slightly

how high do u think ppl are gonna push keys this season? im think theres gonna be timed 30s tbh

[runic pine]

Just a kinda good warrior

[stark apex]

is it mythic?

[ember apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/902623813068521473.webp?size=48&name=PepeHands&quality=lossless

[runic pine]

Nah I’m not stepping into mythic until next week

[scarlet swift]

is it safe to say (or dumb) that my ilvl% will never be truly high because we are a 10man with sub-par buffs and optimization?

[ember apex]

if ur 10man raiding like those other 9 ppl really gotta get their gear in line for u to parse

like u guys need to have insane kill times basically

[stark apex]

stop using ilvl parce

what the cuss

[ember apex]

yeah ilvl parse is cringe

[runic pine]

ilvl parse gets a bit wonky tbh

[ember apex]

yeah the brackets are arbitrary AF

[scarlet swift]

but like, how would i even hit 70% at my ilvl, basically need to be boosted for parsing, right?

[stark apex]

stop caring about ilvl at all

[scarlet swift]

PI's/WF/ etc

[runic pine]

Idk I just press buttons

[eternal sundial]

Gear>>>

[covert blaze]

ilvl parse doesnt matter

[barren dagger]

If you are good you are gonna parse good tbh

[eternal sundial]

Simply aquire more items

[plucky egret]

Comp is also going to affect your parses also. My group has no wind fury or monk debuff so that’s 14-15k at least that’s gone.

[eternal sundial]

Then you do more dam

[plucky egret]

Just do your best and call it a day

[meager gyro]

Ok let's all do mythic at 472 ilvl max so we can compete with one another

[clever path]

i mean

at same ilvl

[runic pine]

So true king

[clever path]

there could be a warrior with leggo and 447 ring

and you with a 496 ring (if it existed) and a 447 weapon

[gilded pawn]

Yes

[runic pine]

If I had had WFT my 87 on Fyrakk would have been a 95

[vivid nebula]

unequip cloak for good ilvl parses

[gilded pawn]

Also parsing requires your team to be good

[runic pine]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[covert blaze]

[clever path]

parsing depends on a lot of factors tbf

[scarlet swift]

we dont even have mark of wild

[eternal sundial]

I had a 97 on huntsman no wft no monk on arms that woulda been r1

[barren dagger]

Isnt parsing just highest uptime on cooldowns

[eternal sundial]

Raidbuffs are poggers

[weak vapor]

any idea why i do so low dmg?

[flat sapphire]

Confirmed if your parses are bad your group sucks

[runic pine]

No

[weak vapor]

stays 104k

1max 120k

single target

[eternal sundial]

Proc good, play well, kill at good time

[barren dagger]

If you can get an extra avatar/reck/of just before boss dies, how does that not help

[scarlet swift]

your execute looks low

[errant vessel]

This but unironically

[weak vapor]

close to

im getting pissed stay low single target

always issue with this

[flat sapphire]

Whats your gear

[meager gyro]

I have 99 parses of ilvl all normal bosses bow 🏹 down 👎 to meh 😑

[runic pine]

Because there’s more to it than just press your big button more than other guy

[clever path]

yes that's called kill time

[weak vapor]

can u tell me why this dmg its rly handicaped

[runic pine]

Faster kill times can help you get a better parse

[eternal sundial]

Not playing well

[flat sapphire]

I can't see anything weird or bad idk

Try getting logs

Ans people can see what yku do wrong

[runic pine]

Or slower kill times can ruin a parse

[clever path]

not playing well cant see ilvls

[weak vapor]

rotation or stats completly wrong

[gilded pawn]

Rotation

[eternal sundial]

You never wanna hear it but if ur damage is bad you generally arent playing super well

[mossy fox]

you're just not playing well if you're not breaking 100k with that gear

[covert blaze]

@weak vapor post logs in #449510248579858432

[flat sapphire]

Log it and show logs here

And people gonna point things out

[weak vapor]

please yes how?

[mossy fox]

log review channel is the way

[clever path]

slower kill times can help a parse

[flat sapphire]

Yupp

[gilded pawn]

Go hit a dummy

[clever path]

especially as arms

[eternal sundial]

Like i have less ilvl equipped and do 180k in m+ talents on bosses

(with db/bc tbf)

[runic pine]

It can depending on class, I’m just saying there’s more to it in general

Not specifically just for arms/fury

[eternal sundial]

POV: 10 Minute sark HC kill

[clever path]

i had a few mega parses on last tier cause half the group died

[weak vapor]

is it in raidbots wow logs or ?

[clever path]

and then its just a 2m inute execute phase

[scarlet swift]

@weak vapor i hit 95k on my first and only normal fyrakk at 461, 476 should be like 125k+?

[clever path]

go hit a dummy

[weak vapor]

i told u its something wrong i do

[coarse nest]

You log well in heroic by having 10 people dead on the floor getting boosted

[weak vapor]

getting me cancer seeing my dmg is low

[coarse nest]

[weak vapor]

:/

[covert blaze]

chinese logs extending fights to get more add spawns

[robust rock]

before raid : go hit dummy

after raid : go hit dummy

[runic pine]

On normal at 476? Should be like 150+

[mossy fox]

we can't tell you what you're doing wrong without a link to log

[robust rock]

also try comparing timetables in wowlogs with someone with same ilvl

[scarlet swift]

revenant, did someone log it? link it or share your name

[eternal sundial]

Bro i had this sark pug where I played 8 target cleave all of p3 cuz adds kept healing

[scarlet swift]

@runic pine i dunno man, im so low and out of touch, we a small fry here

[runic pine]

It’s ok we all got stuff to work on

[scarlet swift]

i got a orange parse mog though

[clever path]

ye i mean the shit they do is insane

[runic pine]

The duality of man

[clever path]

tindral is just

anduin 2.0 for parsing

[robust rock]

PAD

[clever path]

you need a shit group to parse well

[robust rock]

no fun when all roots are gone in 2 seconds 😦

[scarlet swift]

looks the same

[clever path]

real

[weak vapor]

ok gonna start soon

[scarlet swift]

haha, i meant other chat, but that works here too

tank spec dps logs

[proud crown]

[weak vapor]

? what dfoes mean then?

[clever path]

i had a 2 parse on assault

r2 boss damage

arms full st

[proud crown]

just press roar at a better time

[runic pine]

We vibin now

[proud crown]

ethical gamers

[clever path]

nah cba

[prime root]

Hey just wanted to double check- we should be using sudden death procs over normal bloodthirst in rotation?

[chrome plover]

yes

[scarlet swift]

do you always pop a ww first if/when at zero aoe stacks then sudden death or do you just sudden death first prio

[clever path]

ww first

[scarlet swift]

good, im not dumb

[clever path]

you wanna cleave

[scarlet swift]

sometimes people say "dont waste a proc", but i'd rather aoe the 1 than ST the 2 if i got a lucky back to back

[proud crown]

you'd waste the proc if you didnt cleave it

[eternal sundial]

At 130 rage in CDs 3 bt stacks youd still ww

Cuz hitting 4 extra is never not worth

[weak vapor]

wipe but see

dmg

season 1

-_-

[eternal sundial]

Arcane at 120

[clever path]

i mean thats just not pressing your buttons correctly

[weak vapor]

there is no than rampage bloodthirst and bloodbath and slam only ? :S
try excute but not proc yet

[clever path]

is this logged?

[eternal sundial]

Used ww at all?

[weak vapor]

not rly

[scarlet swift]

bad gateway, anyone know a warlock?

[weak vapor]

whirlwind

yea

i got same bad gateway

[covert blaze]

My guild yday on M smolderon be like

[weak vapor]

i dont use whirlwind . so do i must use it?

[clever path]

ye its down

[eternal sundial]

WW is a filler so yes

[winter shoal]

It's filler if other things are all on cd

[gusty cloak]

is execute any prio?

[eternal sundial]

Low prio but better than nothing

[scarlet swift]

6 discord'ers went into WCLogs and broke it, nice

[weak vapor]

litterly nothing to do

[clever path]

with ashen yes

otherwise its just a filler

with ashen u bb exe ramp bb exe ramp

[weak vapor]

stays 120k if i die then back 107k single target

[eternal sundial]

Damage breakdown doesnt help to assess ur play

[covert blaze]

Jason you are not doing some very basic stuff probably so I suggest you read the wowhead guide

[gusty cloak]

kk, just got 4piece, trying to see what to prio

[weak vapor]

i do lol

[eternal sundial]

Reread anyways sometimes it's an eye opener

[weak vapor]

as i sent my stats

ok

[gilded pawn]

Stats don’t matter

[eternal sundial]

Bro stats dont make u play well

[weak vapor]

so its about rotation?

[covert blaze]

You said you don't use ww so you clearly didn't read

[eternal sundial]

It's all rotation

[weak vapor]

oh okay

[clever path]

legit

stats are irrelevant

[weak vapor]

cause for example when i play ench shaman i do alot dmg cause know ench shaman but war has not rly something special. and i do single target season 2 150k

[prime root]

I just reread and realized I was screwing up using bloodthirst over SD execute procs so yeah dude it's worth studying up haha

[weak vapor]

now this is shit. so i missing thanks. ill look into wowhead

[winter shoal]

@weak vapor I'd also recommend playing roar + twords over spear + EM, it's only a tiny bit worse assuming perfect gameplay, but it's basically impossible to mess up roar

[clever path]

real and true

• fuck spear

dogshit spell

[weak vapor]

i like roar it alot dmg

i took spec from single raid ST

[scarlet swift]

spear is bait, roar is the only way

[weak vapor]

wowhead

[scarlet swift]

especially with all the bleed buffs now

[weak vapor]

well not much often go raid so. only m+

[proud crown]

all my homies hate spear

[clever path]

meh

[weak vapor]

me2

asewll

[clever path]

spear is still ahead slightly on st

its just cringe

to use

[gusty cloak]

Theres a prio list on wowhead?

[scarlet swift]

its better yes, but not enough to justify its use

[proud crown]

but the huge BB crits are cool

[clever path]

how come?

if you can play spear perfectly

its better

[scarlet swift]

can you play it perfect 100% of the time?

[gusty cloak]

is there any WA's to track the bloodthirst 3 crits?

[olive wraith]

Unless you have a ui that hides it, bt/bb glow when tier stacks are up

[weak vapor]

T31 mean full set yeah?