then 10 sec
#fury
brittle crow
oblique trail
math
left perch
low pick rate
red dirge
pure thorn
at what point do i talent into annihilator? is it only after getting the 4 piece ? or is it still a dps increase over onslaught? doing heroics and catching up rn
empty grove
at what point do i talent into annihilator? is it only after getting the 4 piece...
sim yourself but you need 2 set to begin it
pure thorn
gotcha. so sticking with onslaught is better until then?
empty grove
until you have 2pc yeah provided the t30 2pc and the T31 2pc sim higher then the t30 4pc š
pure thorn
thanks man š«”
olive wraith
Man Iām glad bm is getting nerfed
Tank pulled the whole room in brh between the rock stairs. Bm did 1.9m
glad tangle
How much did next person have?
olive wraith
Me and pally were at like 400k
It was depressing
Granted fury doesnāt have the best uncapped. But still
glad tangle
Because hunters only got their tier set nerfed which according to the math whizzes in hunter discord is a 5-5.5% nerf. So that hunter on December 5th will only be doing 1.805m dps instead
arctic bough
if i have no tier 30 and only 2pc tier 31
should i run the new build or stick to old?
left perch
yea but thatās in uncapped aoe which is not a real aspect of the game
olive wraith
I mean it is in m+
left perch
I mean it is in m+
Uncapped aoe is a big aspect of timing high keys where a good amount of classes donāt have uncapped and/or continue to be where itās nerfed*?
olive wraith
How is that not a real aspect of the game
left perch
I donāt think you do insane big pulls in a 29 fort
I think you do it in a weekly 17 thatās on farm and thatāsā¦not really a real thing to metric off?
hasty path
I donāt think you do insane big pulls in a 29 fort
you have to
in order to time
in a lot of dungeons
left perch
I stand corrected
hasty path
everyone just needs to be doing so much more dmg and healing
it depends on the key ofc
we havent really seen bleeding edge of keys this season yet
but like last season VP for example. You'd normally think small pulls. But you did the whole key in like 5 pulls total
left perch
I mean I figured you donāt just do 1-2 packs at a time, but I did not think uncapped aoe had that big of an influence
Since most aoe spells usually say āstarts to suck after 5 targetsā
Sounds like thereās gonna be some class/spec that really just never can do the math dps to be included then.
frail trout
Kinda wish the meat cleaver effect on our single target abilities could hit more than 4 extra targets aside from main
woven tangle
how is arms compared to fury now? is it just personal preference or is fury still pulling ahead?
frail trout
Perhaps that wouldn't be balanced but add a harsher damage penalty for targets beyond 5 idk
In keys anyway I feel like arms can do bigger AOE burst but maybe I'm mistaken
olive wraith
Ye arms is great aoe
frail trout
Arms roar hits VERY hard
But they pay a steeper single target price than fury does in keys
summer quail
how is arms compared to fury now? is it just personal preference or is fury stil...
Fury better in raid. M+ they are pretty close to eachother
frail trout
And fury focusing down one specific mob in m+ kinda feels good
Whatever your bloodsurging is gonna go down
I do wish they would add a smidge more pre-execute damage to arms now
Because fury is intruding a bit into their niche since it also has a decent execute phase now
Especially on smolderon during Burst cds
olive wraith
The major thing is fury still doesnāt sacrifice that much st for talent it into aoe
And fury st is stronger than arms this tier
keen kindle
And fury st is stronger than arms this tier
unfortauntely
(Sorry for the ping)
or fortauntely if you like anni
olive wraith
Honestly I like the change in playstyle
oblique trail
Fury and Arms ST is fairly similar
More people just play Fury on mythic prog though because it's tankier than Arms
paper ravine
what is bloodbath?
oblique trail
It's bloodthirst after you rampage with reckless abandon talented
paper ravine
adn for low keys should i just be using the odyn fury build?
i ahte ravager x.x
hate*
olive wraith
Do you have new set?
olive wraith
Then no
paper ravine
sheeshh
olive wraith
Ravager is better
paper ravine
ah ok
solid vortex
anybody know why a youtube warrior would take embellished bracers with shadowflame over allied companionship bracers
olive wraith
Double patch is better st
oblique trail
Because for pure ST, it's ever so slightly ahead of allied wrists
solid vortex
so if i get double patch its better
oblique trail
Personally I wouldn't recommend going 2x Shadowflame
solid vortex
oh
oblique trail
The damage that Shadowflame would do to a single enemy is roughly the same % that you'd get from versatility from allied wrists, and that damage increase works for everything
solid vortex
i got the interrupt boots embellished for mythic plus and i guess ill get allied companionship bracers this tuesday and save the patch bracers for raid
oblique trail
Make a cloak with Shadowflame if anything
The interrupt boots will be useless in raid
solid vortex
yeah cloak it is
arctic bough
Do you have new set?
If you have 2pc do you switch it up? Or only with 4pc
tepid scroll
Anyone got a good export for t31 m+ or do we just get the wowhead one?
olive wraith
If you have 2pc do you switch it up? Or only with 4pc
With 2pc
For m+ some donāt like using the full anni build so you can drip anni/sos for onslaught and keep anger management
Pretty sure archi has a build either on wowhead or here somewhere
toxic flare
does any1 know where i can look at stat caps?
modest condor
nowhere because they dont exist
toxic flare
ok
bold hazel
Is there a build I should be running if I have neither t30 or t31 set?
summer quail
The t30 build
keen kindle
2pc
fallow adder
would u guys want rezan or ocean trink if you had to pick one
fallow adder
even for ur m+ sims ?!
sinful spoke
i havent tried that yet just m+
fallow adder
oh oka : D
south kayak
Found the tier helm in my emotes š”
fallow adder
Found the tier helm in my emotes š”
š¤¬
compact knot
fallow adder
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3HA9VvA5ferFFsC3moyTJc
what da hell š³
compact knot
i refuse to believe that top gear is right
frosty orchid
i mean is only 1 min 30 sec š
sinful spoke
how long are u in add fights for
frosty orchid
haha
south kayak
@sinful spoke
fallow adder
1:30 is like a raid boss kill with the bois
compact knot
and what was recommende dhere
i doubt t
subtle lagoon
Rezan = ST trink
Might = AOE / Burst trink
That's what I think
gritty sigil
Does anyone have a good vod of a fury breaking 300k this season (no pi no aug and a non dmg pad dungeon)? I'm struggling to get my dps up even when I feel like I have good rotation/pulls
gritty sigil
Aoe, for a dungeon overall
sinful spoke
is that even possible
gritty sigil
Oh
compact knot
nope its not lol
sinful spoke
unless like tott or everbloom
subtle lagoon
Go look at dh vods
sinful spoke
im doing 170-190k overall
gritty sigil
I kept getting dh getting like 400k overalls
sinful spoke
thats kind of a crazy number
subtle lagoon
Brown class poop what can you do
frosty orchid
you can push your buttons as hard as u want .. but ... overall 300k ... hmm .. not in high keys mate š But i guess if i have the Axe .. we will see š
compact knot
ill check
fallow adder
both havoc and veng
gritty sigil
OK well it makes me feel better I'd other furys are in the same boat at least
Class diff op
lunar summit
Smoking that good shit if you doing over 300k even eith aug
fallow adder
i dunno i just did 191k overall first time doing a key as fury with a 437 off hand weapon xd
this spec can push up in the 200ks for sure
i bet critcake does 300k+ overalls
compact knot
i bet alot of people do
fallow adder
its also heavely dependant on tank pulls so if you pug a lot its very hard
dense elbow
200k is very doable, 300k, now we need some pulls
fallow adder
ye
also i dunno if this happend to anyone else today but my overall meters are no longer being padded by ozumat / yalnu damage
lavish sage
that font is atrocious
gritty sigil
why does evferyone hate my font QQ
fallow adder
Expressway >
dense elbow
also i dunno if this happend to anyone else today but my overall meters are no l...
I really hope that details ain't starting to 'removing pad', cause pad is silly fun
sinful spoke
why does evferyone hate my font QQ
Because it looks like shit and its unreadable
spiral oasis
Because it looks like shit and its unreadable
calm down...
gritty sigil
i normally use action man :^)
hasty path
its the outline
fallow adder
I really hope that details ain't starting to 'removing pad', cause pad is silly ...
ye fun detected
spiral oasis
it's just a font buddy..
gritty sigil
its fun and quirky
spiral oasis
its fun and quirky
ur font is readable
hasty path
bis
dense elbow
Bah
sinful spoke
calm down...
What
spiral oasis
brh
gritty sigil
where do i even change the mythic+ io font at o3o
fallow adder
bad font ? so you have chosen... DEATH
dense elbow
We only do comic here in fury, tyvm
gritty sigil
fury warriors should use trashhand
spiral oasis
fury warriors should use some kind of freehand crayon font
gritty sigil
i would pay money for a font like that
spiral oasis
i got very sad seeing the candy cane swords were 1 handers </3
gritty sigil
ikr!
fallow adder
yeah... ;:/
gritty sigil
i made a ST build thats only like a 8k dps loss just for them XD
sinful spoke
i got very sad seeing the candy cane swords were 1 handers </3
Same
Stopped me from buying them
spiral oasis
Single minded fury..
past pivot
Sucks
sinful spoke
Ass
compact knot
left perch
turns out you already can do that
frosty orchid
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kSY6bUsKKpLzM4FWsygScf
hmm ... M+ only Ring and Neck ...
(i simmed without windfury Totem .. because we have no in Raid ...)
past pivot
6 minutes? Thatās an unusual sim
still obsidian
hey guys wondering if i should save my spark for a weapon i have 2 heroic track weapons now, other wise raidbots says to craft lariat?
currently dont have any spare sockets
somber elk
hey guys wondering if i should save my spark for a weapon i have 2 heroic track ...
Dont craft weapon
And dont craft lariat
past pivot
hey guys wondering if i should save my spark for a weapon i have 2 heroic track ...
I wouldnāt craft lariat until you have sockets in all your items and are pretty much done upgrading.
As far as weapon, donāt craft. Easy to get one from dungeon or raid. Just keep grinding. Lots of options this patch.
past pivot
Why not craft the recommendations? Cloak and either bracers? Or a ring for flavor packet?
somber elk
Why Would you hold just craft wrists and cloak with shadowflame
still obsidian
sure i can do that but i did get a myth track wrist first vault
past pivot
But thatās not cloak.
still obsidian
i have the cloak š
past pivot
Sounds like first vault messed you up but lariat is a bad choice right now. And crafting a weapon is a potential waste of sparks unless you have every other slot filled. Rings? Belt? Boots, other non-tier slot to fill.
past pivot
Two sparks. Could craft both.
still obsidian
did i perhaps miss a spark ? i have crafted a cloak i have 1 spark and a half
sacred dirge
You didnāt miss one the next half is this coming week
still obsidian
sick
alright then. i think ill just craft boots for now š
thanks for the advice!
south kayak
I assume bonus damage to undead
naive swallow
ok
hasty path
that doesnt look like 4001 io to me
visual error
hasty path
what's scourgebane
flavor text, essentially
naive swallow
aight thanks
flat river
visual error
Is it even possible to get 4001 io?
sullen dove
keen kindle
picks or it didn't happen
sullen dove
source: me
Same source as when you said leggo would have different ilvl brackets for different difficulties and be 504 on mythic and cost 8 million gold to craft and require mats from raszageth and sarkareth 
sullen dove
Is it even possible to get 4001 io?
Ppl got above 4K last season and plenty of other seasons b4
just kinda depends whatever the highest keys io value was at the time
sullen dove
robust basin
south kayak
send
keen kindle
F in the chat my brother
I'm one off the wyrm cap
and I'm saving up aspects for the next enchanted crest
gonna make a ring with the next spark bro
subtle lagoon
When does cross realm myth open up
sullen dove
when hof closes
so likeā¦ prolly a good 1-2 months
i think theyāve opened it up early in the past if itās taking a REALLY long time
but not anytime soon
sullen dove
wack
clear thicket
When you run 7 BRH's in a row to get that ferkakte weapon, never get loot but see other people get it and need it 5 out of those 7 runs
š
keen kindle
Or maybe that was for WiW
I remeber reading somewhere that blizz wanted cross realm mythic to be more accessible
Oh no no no it is for wiw
Sorry I'm stupid it's still HoF
subtle lagoon
Only way for me to do mythic unfortunately. Have to pug cross realm.
keen kindle
I think I'd rather shoot myself then pug the hardest content in the game
My experience with pugging savage in 14 has taught me not to touch that shit without a set group with a 50 foot poll
subtle lagoon
I could never get cutting edge but I could always kill a handful of bosses in a pug
keen kindle
I am not a CE player
subtle lagoon
Guild is hardstuck aotc and they're pretty casual, my realm is deadge and yeah I have no other option.
sullen dove
da heck is wiw
sullen dove
keen kindle
da heck is wiw
war within, 11.0
sullen dove
o yea
keen kindle
shortened to wiw
subtle lagoon
wiw makes no sense
sullen dove
olive wraith
You mistyped wow
keen kindle
It's 1am after an 8 hour shift, raid, and doing a +21 dark heart that nearly gave me a fucking heart attack
lavish sage
TWW
sullen dove
lavish sage
WW
keen kindle
DON'T DO THAT
sullen dove
the whirlwind
subtle lagoon
Windwalker 
keen kindle
People will get so confused
lavish sage
Windwalker <:keks:936231610850897992>
whats that?
olive wraith
subtle lagoon
whats that?
Luke skywalker's distant cousin, also a dead ass spec in wow
sullen dove
But ya crossfaction existing as a whole completely dead next xpac, guilds mythic raids everything
psure still gated behind hof for this tier tho
by dead I mean restrictions are dead
sullen dove
you wouldnāt be the first so dw about it, definitely wonāt be the last either
allow me to demonstrate
we will become meta in m+ with legendary
subtle lagoon
Legendary will give us big damage and put us on top to compete with dh and bm
subtle lagoon
We will surely become in M+
keen kindle
We will truly be the M+ with the legendary
flat river
I am totally not crying rn
clever path
is it bad to run bloodcraze instead of slaughtering strikes
sullen dove
bloodcraze is way better for st
aoe/m+ not as helpful, ive just taken to running massacre cuz having an extra button to get rage from just kinda feels nice since its likely you can clip an exe off a random mob
upper mica
prog onheroic council tonight - 470- butchers block or 467 branch
sullen dove
instead of just the thing where you hit every button you possibly can and are just afk waiting for cds
sullen dove
prog onheroic council tonight - 470- butchers block or 467 branch
can sim 1 and maybe 2 target if you want to compare what it says
but idk butchers isnt that crazy i dont think usually
upper mica
yeah i thought that but when simming last night on ST it was 2k higher DPS
felt bizarre as hell in M+
sullen dove
eh i mean its possible its good if you are missing on some crit and enjoy the crit proc
i think branch is ok but just like an average on use does damage trinket
upper mica
23% crit atm
sullen dove
yea idk i have around 30%, not that thats perfect but you could just prefer the crit proc a little more
if sim sayin its better then its probably tru
upper mica
i thought sim used to have alot of problems with trinks
sullen dove
eh i dont think so, aside from random outliers that are specifically targetted and addressed
i imagine it'd be a lot more common knowledge or there would be a pinned message if any of our trinks were like, horrendously misrepresented by sims
i think bloodmallet is usually whats not as accurate cuz A) it takes rankings off the like, very best in slot gear profile i believe, and B) idk its just weird
droptimizer does it better
upper mica
i guess it also depends on multi target vs ST
like branch rates highly for ST but not so high for MT
sullen dove
yea i think branch does have a thing where it says it does more damage on more targets, which makes it better than other similar damage procs that dont, i.e rezan, but increased stats are typically more beneficial for multiple targets as well
upper mica
signet as well... rates well for ST not so well for MT
sullen dove
i think especially crit cause like a big jump in crit% has way more impact on several targets instead of just 1 target
upper mica
augury just BiS lol
sullen dove
yea signets big st but falls off mt cuz its hard to keep up
and aug is one of those damage procs thats just goated
upper mica
so ST normally would be aug signet/rezan - MT aug and something lol
sullen dove
yea pretty much
might of the ocean good MT, maybe porcelain crab it procs pretty decently
idk could be some room for accelerating sandglass but kinda outclassed by a lot of other trinks avail
upper mica
yeah im running might and butchers block atm for ST
sullen dove
yea das not bad
might still ok st
just the thing of stats on more mobs > stats on 1 mob
upper mica
yeah - im hoping vault blesses me with augury lol
sullen dove
upper mica
i mean trinks are certainly one of those things that change depending on fight
M+ vs ST vs MT raid
sullen dove
tbh idk what fights id drop aug/signet for, maybe some of the earlier ones that are really short and you dont get as much brand value
but idk maybe like, might of the ocean better either for add pad/burn phase on gnarlroot, possibly could be goated on hard padding tindral roots
tho tindral himself also lasts pretty long so brand would be pretty good there too for boss dam
upper mica
i only do heroic tbh so i dont even change spec between M+ and raid lol
proud vessel
What are our bis m+ trinkets?
upper mica
Do you guys have 2 different sets for ST and MT?
i think its personal preference tbh - most of the time our rotation dosent change so i think the only change would be bracers possibly for a shadowflame?
keen kindle
Do you guys have 2 different sets for ST and MT?
No real reason to
flat river
Kk
subtle lagoon
Do you guys have 2 different sets for ST and MT?
I do for m+ haste legs and trinkets
MT raid though, nope
plucky ice
no 
deep burrow
whats our mastery cap?
nova garnet
Whatever sims tell you
flat river
Obey the sim gods
deep burrow
I have like, 3800 mastery, but i sim better as arms than fury D:
sullen dove
+1 level of a main key is 10 points
so if you did a 23 of eb, rise, and a 24 of AD, youd get around 40 points
but the AD is a 2 chest
so no you'd need at least 2 24's
(of your 22's)
flat river
I have an amazing idea for a set piece for fury
subtle lagoon
odyn's fury 51% damage increase 
sullen dove
not again
nova garnet
I have an amazing idea for a set piece for fury
You get to titan grip a 3rd 2 hander?
sullen dove
subtle lagoon
sullen dove
have you seen zoro 4 sword style
plucky ice
flat river
2-set: Slaughtering Strikes now deals 5% extra dmg and Raging Blow now gives 2 stacks.
4-set: Slaughtering Strikes max stacks now increased to 10 and Onslaught now generates 5 stacks and deals 20% increased dmg
Top tier set piece
sullen dove
sullen dove
it would... do damage maybe? but 100% passive a tiny bit 
nova garnet
2-set: Slaughtering Strikes now deals 5% extra dmg and Raging Blow now gives 2 s...
3rd two hander sounds better
flat river
Ok how about this
nova garnet
flat river
2-set: sudden death chance increased by 500%
4-set: execute instantly kills the target
upper mica
2-set: sudden death chance increased by 500%
4-set: execute instantly kills the ...
this
subtle lagoon
Warrior touch of death
flat river
2-set: when you use Execute and don't kill the target you become super angry, increasing your dmg and haste by 100% stacking.
4-set: Execute is now usable at above 80% and below 40% (increased to 55% using Massacre)
sullen dove
condemn
also you dont just say "nah fr" and rip out another malevolent kitchen like dat
flat river
sullen dove
it looks like gildarts but feels like a op character idkl
subtle lagoon
2-set: when you use Execute and don't kill the target you become super angry, in...
I like the idea of 2 set, with more reasonable numbers and sudden death it sounds like fun
sullen dove
and now arms has it this season
flat river
Yeah
sullen dove
tbh 4set was mid until .0.5 too
subtle lagoon
I mean increasing haste and damage when execute doesn't execute
flat river
Yes
sullen dove
yea i mean sounds cool but also think, literally 99.99% of your executes are not gonna kill a target
its just a button in your rotation
subtle lagoon
Nah screw this rng shit you wow players keep sniffing
Give me something pure and straightforward
subtle lagoon
Like the cdr from season 2 was perfect. Pure and straightforward, rampage reduced CD of ravager and reck pretty much.
But now you can get unlucky streaks of not critting bt sometimes
flat river
Ok how bout this
Execute, rampage, and onslaught reduce the cd of recklessness, avatar, and ravager by 2 seconds
Anger management rework:
subtle lagoon
ebon shore
bro is cooking
flat river
Every 40 range spent has a 20% chance to make your next rampage free
Stacking up to 2 times
golden hare
subtle lagoon
They should just do crazy shit like that but tune down damage numbers to make it reasonable. It'd be fun to have impactful cooldowns come up to press
south kayak
you have 40% chance to reset the CD of OF
south kayak
true 
golden hare
eyir cooks
lean geyserBOT
Yes chef!
nova garnet
Blizzard hates weebs
subtle lagoon
They prefer furries
flat river
2-set: Execute deals 50% increased dmg and adds a bleed effect to the target for 75% of the damage.
4-set: Recklessness makes execute usable during its duration regardless of the target's HP, also execute has a 30% chance to instantly reset its CD.
plucky ice
upper mica
im going to need someone to check what in the hell i am doing wrong....
heroic volc kill 7% ilvl parse....
flat river
Blizzard hates weebs
UwU
nova garnet
UwU
flat river
U watch anime?
errant vessel
2-set: you beat Demon Hunters in Dps.
4-set: you beat God in dps.
You swapped around 2 and 4 set
forest ginkgo
2-set: Nah i'd win
4-set: Nah i'd win
errant vessel
also anyone else have issues with weakaura not tracking execute cd properly?
flat river
2-set: Nah i'd win
4-set: Nah i'd win
xd
flat river
also anyone else have issues with weakaura not tracking execute cd properly?
Just get good
errant vessel
Just get good
;-;
forest ginkgo
also anyone else have issues with weakaura not tracking execute cd properly?
I'd check if there is an update, otherwise remove the weakaura and reinstall it
errant vessel
It's a homemade weakaura but haven't had any issues with it until like 4 days ago?
forest ginkgo
Well if you made it urself then only u know where to check
If u cant solve it urself then just find one on wago.io and get a similar one to the homemade one ur using
flat river
errant vessel
Well if you made it urself then only u know where to check
I just did premade auras->cooldowns->execute basically
all other abilities show cds except execute
nvm you have to enable this little box or it doesn't work with Massacre talented (Show override spell)
nova garnet
Muslim here
Respect, what do you celebrate?
I know there are some holidays, but I am ignorant, and don't interact frequently
flat river
Respect, what do you celebrate?
Eid
2 of them
One after Ramadan and one after it by a couple months
Also we celebrate mother's day and birthdays
But thats just a tradition mostly
We get the first day of Christmas off though in uni though because some people are Christian
hasty tree
Has anyone some help for me if more fps lead to better dps (sounds bad) in raid with heavy apm class like fury? Sometimes in raid I drop to 30fps for a time (already all on lowest settings) and it feels like incant press my rotation probably then
flat river
It can yeah
But 60 fps should be fine
30 fps might affect performance a little bit
But if you're used to it i think it wouldn't as much
hasty path
Same source as when you said leggo would have different ilvl brackets for differ...
Bro how do you even remember that
I was cookin
flat river
sullen dove
Bro how do you even remember that
how could i forget, it was such an affront to all that was holy
the "i know a guy at blizzard, trust me bro"
nova garnet
We get the first day of Christmas off though in uni though because some people a...
Makes sense. Ty
nova garnet
Same source as when you said leggo would have different ilvl brackets for differ...
That sounds like trolling
sullen dove
either that or inebriated, mans was CONVINCED
nova garnet
Hallucinogens
I remember before cata came out and I described vasjir and other things.
I was spouting shit about how cata was going to have underwater zone, and wed have pandas, etf.
We got underwater zone. Following xpac pandas LOL
flat river
SoD > Cata
nova garnet
People thought I was a wizard
nova garnet
MOP classic might be fun, but like
flat river
130 crit
nova garnet
The best part of mop was cooking and noodle carts
flat river
Cannot be resisted or dodged
nova garnet
The raids were kinda ok
flat river
MoP was when all classes were OP
sullen dove
idk every zone was just peak
nova garnet
I really.liked pandaria
flat river
And slam was viable
nova garnet
But the cooking in halfhil was awesome
6 different subspecialties
Different dailies
Your own garden
A feast where you operated a literal noodle cart
Was fucking top tier
flat river
Ok but
subtle lagoon
Bro, Ramen is bis
flat river
China eats meow meow
flat river
I will never accept a country that eats cats
nova garnet
But what the fuck is this
nova garnet
I will never accept a country that eats cats
Pigs are smarter than cats.
flat river
Pigs are smarter than cats.
Fuck u
nova garnet
Cat is just too boney. I'd pass
flat river
Cats are BiS
nova garnet
I love cats
Doesn't change the fact
That pigs are intelligent
And we be eating bacon
flat river
Cats > Ferrets > all other animals
nova garnet
Octopus also smart, and we eat that
But for taste and texture
Dog and cat aren't my thing
subtle lagoon
Bacon haram
regal elm
Pigs eat their owm shit
hasty path
Japan has better food
wrong
nova garnet
I think SEA has awesome cuisine
Vietnamese food is pog
Japanese food is pog
Chinese food is pog
Korean food is pog
nova garnet
British food is objectively shit
flat river
SOME chinese food is pog
nova garnet
nova garnet
SOME chinese food is pog
Ik not too keen on Americanized Chinese food
But Americanized Japanese food is good
nova garnet
Canada
But fyi, Japan consumed cats as food
For a long time
And the practice isn't common in china nowadays
hasty path
Ik not too keen on Americanized Chinese food
orange chicken is literally bis
nova garnet
calm mantle
what item level is acceptable for 16/17 m+
nova garnet
424
upper mica
does anyone know if urctos does more damage if he hits the wall?
nova garnet
Getting in is another story.
nova garnet
I love your kitty
plucky ice
flat river
I love urs too <3
plucky ice
bro is ready to rampage your foot
calm mantle
Also new rotation feels so damn icky
nova garnet
I don't want to live without cats.
flat river
Cat transmog when?
calm mantle
I just can't get used to not spamming
subtle lagoon
nova garnet
Gimme
My dream is to have enough money to have 50 cats
And hire someone to clean the litterbox
subtle lagoon
And hire someone to clean the litterbox
the dream
nova garnet
I've been considering starting a cattery.
plucky ice
pure wadi
am i reading it correctly, you spend Bloodbath/Reckless abandon first before rampge, even if you cap?
flat river
When i grow up i will get a lot of cats
I'll make a room for the cats to eat/play/shit in
And they will all sleep with/next/on top of me
clear thicket
Getting in is another story.
Even with 450 ilvl you hardly get into an m+ w/o a decent rio score
I need a guild 
nova garnet
I mean, you're sub optimal class
With a bad community reputation
While being under geared
Did you expect differently?
deep burrow
xD
Go tank to get some rio, then come back, found it easier
Or, play your own keys.
silver parcel
I need a guild <:sadga:869134702970273812>
The guild is the way to go,
And vocal is far greater than not when you're not 100% aware of all of the mechanics
clear thicket
The guild is the way to go,
And vocal is far greater than not when you're not 10...
I know the mechanics, the dungeons and affixes aren't new. And obv previous season rio score doesn't matter at all it seems ;p
inland tinsel
quick question, which one? ilvl boost is nice, but iam overflowing with haste....
deep burrow
I know the mechanics, the dungeons and affixes aren't new. And obv previous seas...
No, cause getting up to 2.8-3k last season was easy if you play FotM class
clear thicket
@nova garnet even beeing suboptimal, 3/4 of the time you'd be outdpsing any other pug
I played paladin
and had the same issues as I have now on warrior
almost never got accepted when playing outside the guildgroup I had then
iron portal
And they will all sleep with/next/on top of me
Nice. Already can smell your future
nova garnet
<@766937585431478282> even beeing suboptimal, 3/4 of the time you'd be outdpsing...
Yeah, pugs don't have habds
It's why class discrimination is weird
For low keys
clear thicket
and if I queue for a dungeon, I can see what classes & specs they take
so the only reason I can think of them taking a shadow priest (for example)
is bc their rio score is higher then mine
I'm not a pro player, far from it. Pretty casual atm bc I have a 1 year old crawling around
flat river
Nice. Already can smell your future
Me too
clear thicket
but damn does it feel bad when you sit there queuing for an 11 or 12 and never get accepted
flat river
I will also get a tiger
clear thicket
but when yer looking for a guild, the first thing they ask is: are you going to raid (which I'm not, bc of time)
and if you say no; bye bye guildrecruiter
they suddenly have to go
š„²
clever path
Hi guys, quick question about our execute phase, should we go Ramp > BB > Exec as soon as we hit 35% ? Or do we priotize Ramp and BB over Execute ?
flat river
and if you say no; bye bye guildrecruiter
Just say you want to be a social
Or join a guild that does m+ only
red sky
Would 2set be enough to start using T31 Talents?
radiant coyote
but damn does it feel bad when you sit there queuing for an 11 or 12 and never g...
I ran my own key until i got 2800 rating now i get accepted
clever path
Would 2set be enough to start using T31 Talents?
raid yes m+ no
red sky
raid yes m+ no
Thanks
winged tartan
what are the best trinkets for m+? dont have signet or augury. currently using branch and coiled serpent
would might of the ocean and rezan a big improve for m+??
upper mica
yes
winged tartan
or should i aim for something else
deep burrow
<@766937585431478282> even beeing suboptimal, 3/4 of the time you'd be outdpsing...
Whats our best enchants?
subtle lagoon
I'm using crab and might, but I have rezan. I might switch crab with rezan during tyra weeks
Until I get augury
subtle lagoon
Whats our best enchants?
Wafting and Earthen are simming the highest for me
clear thicket
Waften and sophic for me
subtle lagoon
It's probably going to be mixture of sophic, wafting or earthen
proud leaf
crab and moto are monsters in keys for me rn
lining up with avatar for max burst is chefs kiss
deep burrow
Wafting and Earthen are simming the highest for me
was double earthen for me caus i lack mastery. but i kep sophic on off hand
somber elk
for me its earthern on 1 even at 60%mastery
clever path
would might of the ocean and rezan a big improve for m+??
rezans is meh imo. augury + might of the ocean is insane
i have it does like 2-3% max
spare otter
imagine having augury
clever path
augury is massive
same for might now that we are a proper 1:30 spec
aligns with ava roar
lavish grove
i have it does like 2-3% max
Same, don't really like the trinket
winged tartan
so if im not having augury what me 2nd best option would be?
crab?
the thing with m+ trinkets is ots hard to sim
snow fox
yo guys whats stats on crafted weapon for m+?
clever path
so if im not having augury what me 2nd best option would be?
passive + active is ideal for keys imo
generally gonna be might + passive st trinket
if you can keep signet up which shouldnt be too hard on spiteful
play signet
if you can't you can play something like rezans
ideally augury but as you said you dont have it
winged tartan
passive + active is ideal for keys imo
what do you run
clever path
pips + rezan atm since i have both at really high ilvl and i dnot have crests to upgrade might of the oceaN
- im not a big m+ guy atm
clever path
does ilvl on trinkets increase the passive/onuse
yes
winged tartan
oh thought it only increases the stat
well my trinkets are 467 and 470 + arent the best
that might be why i feel like im not doing enough dmg
but next week getting leggo + augury easy?????
clever path
naive swallow
is normal and hc fyrakk separate drop chances for lego>?
red sky
if you go heroic it takes the normal dropchance into account aswell
so no need to go normal then heroic
naive swallow
ok
clever path
prob wanna do normal as well for the greater ember
i got one from fyrakk normal
and 1 from hc
fyrakk
red sky
no it gets automaticaly accounted
naive swallow
what greater ember
red sky
when you do hc
barren dagger
Is the greater ember 100% drop chance on fyrakk normal?
clever path
so i would get both at heroic?
naive swallow
make sense
clever path
if i didnt do normal?
red sky
let me find the bluepost
naive swallow
did hc , guess ill leave norm to the normz
red sky
one sec
clever path
man they are so cryptic with this system its crazy
covert void
if you do heroic it adds the drop chance in from normal too, but the embers are a different factor I guess.
clever path
if you do heroic it adds the drop chance in from normal too, but the embers are ...
ye thats what im saying at least thats what happened to me but i did normal -> hc
naive swallow
what trinkets are u using for M+
red sky
clever path
ye but do you get both embers?
covert void
yeh but that's not what we mean
chrome plover
I only got one on hc
red sky
the wy i understand it, that ember gets used automatically for you
chrome plover
if you did normal first you will get 2
red sky
but the fuck do i know
chrome plover
but it's the same as just doing hc
clever path
what trinkets are u using for M+
on use and passive ideally
faint oriole
I think the ones you get from higher diffiulties basically just "replace" your lower ones.
red sky
I think the ones you get from higher diffiulties basically just "replace" your l...
thats how i think it works awell
naive swallow
i say ocean porce
spare otter
do you get any embers from lfr?
naive swallow
gd shit
clever path
butchers block isnt bad for a passive afaik
light stump
i read you can only use one ember per week?
naive swallow
saw some peep using fyrakk and the st one from 7th boss
idk , whatever tooltips that say capped at 5
clever path
ashes is crgine cause its a 2min
naive swallow
im turned off
clever path
saw some peep using fyrakk and the st one from 7th boss
ye augury + signet
for raid
augury + on use for m+
covert void
I used a lesser and greater, wasn't aware you could get multiple greaters
naive swallow
how close is crit vs str
assuming sth like this
crit and haste ratings both pretty much cap with 0% penalty
spare otter
your mastery sucks
red sky
https://gyazo.com/4e3c5812ed9ef478a9613abe3c3720e4
you are ofc free to use gyazo, but just in case you didnt know. You can just press win + shift + s to take a screenshot and just paste it in with ctrl + v
naive swallow
gd2know
spiral ridge
Mhmmm
clever path
can u get augury from vault
ofc
naive swallow
i know raidbots' been dumping stat weight tool
but id assume it's still getting updates ?
clever path
https://gyazo.com/4e3c5812ed9ef478a9613abe3c3720e4
lavish grove
naive swallow
currenly i do need some mast vers
tepid shore
I need more mast
naive swallow
idk , runs to do
tepid shore
I need DHT ring
hushed scarab
22 30
can u do screen of ur stats? for me it seems that u cannot have stats like that
tepid shore
Bro I'm at like 40ish% mast rn
clever path
can u do screen of ur stats? for me it seems that u cannot have stats like that
why not?
hushed scarab
Just do a screen
clever path
cba relogging logged in to redo my gems/enchants
i wonder how much i can get with pips
- earthen proc
clever path
i think i had 2 hissing runes for 70 mast
naive swallow
everyone selling writs and devotions like crazy
chrome plover
both sim better than sophic foe me
naive swallow
idk these days im more of a hastey boi in M+
naive swallow
better smash than sry
naive swallow
especially doing keys with em purple boiz
fast mural
wait a few weeks for more nerfs to come through
chrome plover
really good changes
naive swallow
chop em up
chrome plover
good for them I mean, not good for the game
naive swallow
same skills n gear , just straight up doing 25 - 30% more dmg than other specs , sussy
red sky
bm is getting nerfed already, makes sense though my bm does 1.8m dps in a big BL pull
naive swallow
that empty feeling after farming all ur gear
naive swallow
sure brownie > purp it is
clever path
naive swallow
brownie 4 life
autumn mica
What is a dh? Never heard of
clever path
then be fotm one patch
then be dogshit
for the rest of the expac
look spriest
last patch
insane until nerfs
and now they do tank dps
fast mural
you can blame that on aug tho
clever path
5% dps increase
fast mural
you can blame everything on aug
clever path
you can blame that on aug tho
no spriest was the best spec
before aug
after aug mage overtook it + spriest nerfs
fast mural
mage also got a rework
clever path
mage was doing 100k more than every other spec in the game
lavish grove
Imagine uncapped meatcleaver
autumn mica
Makes u wonder why blizzard doesn't tune instantly when it's so obvious xD
They always so slow
fast mural
cause fotm specs makes people play more and pay for level boosts
clever path
cause fotm specs makes people play more and pay for level boosts
i mean 1-70 boost is nothing
and takes no time
you could level 1-70 yourself with a good route
in 5 hours
especially if timewalking is up
fast mural
so they either buy wow tokens for boost or they pay the 60$ one
clever path
60-70 in like anhour
fast mural
its like league when the new character is always overpowered
autumn mica
Atleast we got a Legendary xD
clever frost
Vers now simming more than mastery for me. Gunna be tanky as hell.
sullen dove
does anyone know if urctos does more damage if he hits the wall?
he will always hit the wall, but people soaking his charge reduces the damage he does when he hits the wall
clever path
Vers now simming more than mastery for me. Gunna be tanky as hell.
same
back to mastery now
clever path
Vers now simming more than mastery for me. Gunna be tanky as hell.
make sure to sim writs
earthen writ and those
clever frost
Had to google that one
clever path
mastery proc
clever frost
Don't remember seeing it on raidbots
clever path
its there
upper mica
he will always hit the wall, but people soaking his charge reduces the damage he...
we managed to make him not hit wall lol
clever frost
I see I'll check one I get home
stuck bison
in mythic igira there are ~34 secs between spears. it would be logical thing to hold OF for spears right ?
spare otter
depends how long you hold for ig
gilded belfry
Do you guys use shockwave in m+ >20 ?
spare otter
yes
gilded belfry
Wich talent u removed so ?
hasty path
in mythic igira there are ~34 secs between spears. it would be logical thing to ...
If youāre padding sure
Spears die pretty much insta in my guild
calm mantle
What class can I play to get my spammy fury feeling back that also requires the same amount of braincells fury did?
winged tartan
What class can I play to get my spammy fury feeling back that also requires the ...
youre still spammy with new build
and need even less brain cells
less butons
lavish grove
What class can I play to get my spammy fury feeling back that also requires the ...
Dh probably
calm mantle
is it really less buttons tho? I feel liek I'm still using 4 since I gotta spam whirlwind more for rage and shit.
lavish grove
Sub was kinda spammy, idk about now
calm mantle
It just feels super clunky and less smooth spammy like before.
maybe it's because I still don't have rotation down completely either but it just feels off.
calm mantle
I'll give new rotation a little longer, just struggling to adjust to it I guess.
near gust
covert blaze
titanic rage
winged tartan
titanic rage = more pad on forti
covert blaze
emphasis on pad
winged tartan
trying to keep up with thedr purple mfs kreps me playing
unreal cape
everybody else also has a shit time applying to keys? i've been applying to 22s / 23s for half an hour and get zero invites at 2840 score and 20+ runs timed on 20+ with lots of 21s timed
unreal cape
lol, yeah
subtle lagoon
You're not meta, therefore you get the shit treatment as usual
Been dealing with this since bfa
nova garnet
Most DPS struggle bus to pug
unreal cape
You're not meta, therefore you get the shit treatment as usual
unfortunately the truth
unreal cape
u wont struggle as havoc, bm, aug or whatever
nova garnet
Better to take meta
plucky ice
tbh i rather play non meta comps theyre just boring as fuk, pure faceroll
nova garnet
What's your average experience with other pug dps
Because almost unanimously, people will say pugs don't have hands.
Better to stack the deck they feel
subtle lagoon
I think if you're running a key you'd want to take the best chance to success, which unfortunately means you'd take meta classes as standard
unreal cape
this is my life, and i hate it
