fury

[compact knot]

tru

[clever path]

Augary nerfed?

[chrome plover]

changed

[primal bane]

Buffed

[robust widget]

Neutral on paper, probably "buffed" in reality

[primal bane]

Nerfed for DHs

[compact knot]

id say buffed

[primal bane]

Don’t listen to me I’m talking shit lol

[compact knot]

i like rng being removed a bit more

[primal bane]

More proc more chances for it to proc during reck

[compact knot]

not wrong

[robust widget]

But it was fun if it did 10% of my damage in a ST fight : (

[modest condor]

now to check my favourite wow content creator so i can copy his opinion about the tuning

[robust widget]

[compact knot]

asmongold

[scarlet swift]

what'd you guys buy here?

[robust widget]

nothing and save 5k for bfa timewalking mount

[primal bane]

Nothing

[scarlet swift]

no good xmog factions?

[warped bone]

Mount or mogs if there are any

[thorny bramble]

Is there any good resources for where to shoot for secondary stats? I wanna make sure I'm not stacking too much of one stat and where the cutoffs/break points are for fury

[marble schooner]

holy shit did yall see Augury buff? it has 1.5 RPPM now!

[scarlet swift]

whats an augury and how do i get it looted to me like all ya'll

[lilac plinth]

They nerf the dmg

[modest condor]

[warped bone]

You don't fill your mythic vault for all 3 slots and get it in the singular HC slot! For us that arnt killing Mythic Fy nods

[molten relic]

Hunter scum class

[compact knot]

holy shit augury 5 rppm now wtf

[ashen socket]

Bruh

[robust widget]

imagine though if it was real

[ashen socket]

Did they just kill Augury?

[molten relic]

no

[robust widget]

no

[warped bone]

no

[compact knot]

no

[modest condor]

no

[molten relic]

50% more procs for 33% less damage

is net gain I think

[marble schooner]

it a yoke

[ashen socket]

oh

[gilded pawn]

It’s not

[ashen socket]

then I read it wrong

[gilded pawn]

It’s the same

[molten relic]

wait its not 50% more procs

but anyways

its neutral

[gilded pawn]

It’s 50% more procs

[modest condor]

guys did they just buff augury? 50% more procs sounds insane and it was alreaedy so strong

[frosty karma]

insane dude

[molten relic]

mfs said it was neutral

[robust widget]

doubled the strenght of it!!

[molten relic]

thats what im tryna say

no nerf

[marble schooner]

like for real is blizzard INSANE?

[frosty karma]

maybe that makes it more consistent now

[marble schooner]

quick make a thumbnail

[gilded pawn]

It’s probably a nerf in some way

The procs may overwrite

That’s the downside

[molten relic]

worst case just refreshes the cap and duration

which should even out no?

[marble schooner]

its prob a buff in keys tho so it evens out

[gilded pawn]

That wouldn’t even out

It’s a nerf if it overwrites

[marble schooner]

idek if its used in keys tho

[gilded pawn]

It’s prob a buff in keys yeah

It can be

[cosmic hearth]

Just wanted to mention, with the mastery tip and fixing one of my talents, I went from 95k dummy to 109k, so thanks to all the suggestions. Ya'll are the best.

[primal bane]

Guys it was obviously a fury trink blizz just made it so it’s only a fury trink. Stinky DHs taking the trink

[ashen socket]

Any of the top 5 trinkets are perfectly fine to use

[marble schooner]

❤️

[ashen socket]

You can even drop down a lil bit for a tainted heart

[edgy widget]

Quit worrying about Augury - change is already in SimC

[hard widget]

BUFF

[wanton saddle]

lol

[hard widget]

OMG

[modest condor]

omg 59 dps buff

[warped bone]

Huuuuge

[mossy fox]

warrior is saved

[robust widget]

HIDE THE SCREENSHOT

[frosty karma]

thats a buff

[primal bane]

He has spoken

[cosmic hearth]

Ladies and gentlemen, we did it.

[frosty karma]

I got buffed

[hard widget]

Warrior S tier confirmed

[marble schooner]

so its a buff, got it

[edgy widget]

sure, why not

[gilded pawn]

Then what’s the point of even doing this change

Consistency concerns?

[robust widget]

less low/high spikes

[regal grotto]

Yall need to allow other emotes because I got good laughing emotes for that

[gilded pawn]

Sure

[frosty karma]

I love this stupid timegated quest step, having to do something 20 times with a 5 minute wait time

[primal bane]

Be patient soon you will be a god

[robust widget]

if you dont want to do that throw the axe over to me

[primal bane]

Right

I’ll take it

[edgy widget]

yall wanna complain about something, you should be more concerned with the disastrous state of Warrior in Season of Discovery 💀

[wanton saddle]

I had a suspicion with no reveals that they'd screw the pooch

[hard widget]

Omg warrior is dead confirmed by theorycrafter?!

[primal bane]

Ew classic is stinky

[ashen socket]

You mean season of dogshit?

Retail gaming

[edgy widget]

the season is p cool actually

warrior runes are kinda... iffy

[frosty karma]

anyone know if the raid step works in LFR

[primal bane]

Classic to slow for me

[gilded pawn]

Wasn’t warrior already bad in classic

[frosty karma]

for gnarl + igira + smolderon

[primal bane]

Was fun in 2006

[warped bone]

haven't even looked at season

[spare otter]

Classic leads to brain rot frfr no cap

[warped bone]

All i heard from a guildy was that Hunter Explo shot 1 shot stuff in the raid?

[edgy widget]

bad to level, best at endgame

[gilded pawn]

But season of discovery is mostly level right

[dawn moon]

waiting p2 for warrior so we can gate SS / WW at p1 is... meh

[marble schooner]

I mean its only 25 levels

[gilded pawn]

Yeah but the “end game” is 25

[wanton saddle]

Warrior was always kind of dook until 40+

[gilded pawn]

And from what I understand war is doodoo

[compact knot]

human warrior with double sword spec (race passive and talent tree) windfury totem and thrash blade

[gilded pawn]

At that point

[compact knot]

holy fuck

[marble schooner]

yes but thats part of the class fantasy

[gilded pawn]

Tru

[compact knot]

3 wft effects is based

[marble schooner]

like we are even doodoo colored in raid frames

[edgy widget]

yes that was my point with the statement of "disastrous state" of the class

the runes they added are... not so great at this level

[warped bone]

Man this got me thinking of vanilla with twink 2H shamans proccing WF and just blasting people in BGs

[edgy widget]

They added victory rush, but it only heals 10% and they buffed all the mobs by at least that much

so the heal doesn't actually amount to much lol

they added an instant version of Heroic Strike for Arms, which is great, except it has like half the AP scaling of Bloodthirst 💀

[frosty karma]

[spare otter]

Yea but thing is

Once the level cap raises to 60

Warriors will be op

Just gotta wait a few months you know

[wanton saddle]

See you in like 2026 lmao

[warped bone]

Man thinking far ahead!

[dawn moon]

So Quickstrike is better than VR actually ?

[edgy widget]

idk, they made a point of specifying they wanted to bring all other classes up to War level

[edgy widget]

kinda 50/50

Quick Strike is kinda ass, but VR can still be hard to chain

if you're fighting a bunch of weak stuff that you can mow through, then VR is better; if not QS

[spare otter]

Idk we'll see ig but I just see it as beta testing at this point

[edgy widget]

but QS really isn't much better than just using the good old sunder tech, at least until you're in a buffed up party with WF, etc

[silent gazelle]

RIP AUGURY

[dawn moon]

I hope we get some rune tunning in the next weeks

[ashen socket]

check pins

[left perch]

Imagine thinking other classes need brought UP to warrior

[edgy widget]

honestly Ret feels like better Arms at this level - they have Crusader Strike (which is stronger than QS) and Divine Storm (which is stronger than WW plus at a lower level)

[silent gazelle]

Kill augury, I don't have one

[edgy widget]

Warriors will prob pull ahead in the 40 bracket, but it's kinda funny

Rogues got god damn shadow strike lol

[primal bane]

Check the pins

[edgy widget]

at least the 20% faster 2h swing rune is nice

[quiet geyser]

so they made classic warrior early hard, horrible gameplay even... worse?

[edgy widget]

and the 10% dw damage rune, if boring

[edgy widget]

not worse, just not better

or very minorly so

[quiet geyser]

well if every1 elses gets better, but wars doesnt.. feels like worse, no? lol

[edgy widget]

that's relativity for ya

War always felt like ass leveling outside of a support group; hope was the runes would improve that, but it's still super mid

[silent gazelle]

I did before I said anything

I can meme

[edgy widget]

Feel like VR should have been a chest rune perhaps

[edgy widget]

yeah hunters op af atm

[quiet geyser]

hm.. doesnt classic arms war specifically want slower 2hs? Wouldnt frenzied assault be against that?

or is that just off the actual weapon it self, not personal attack speed

[summer quail]

just the weapon itself

[fair oasis]

So outside of cds when im at lowest rage gen, it feels like the filler is conssitently slam + bt or WW + bt. is this correct?

like BB, have 0 rage > Slam > still not 80 > BT > 80-Ramp

i just see so few slams and WW on volcoross parses compared to what i feel like im pressing when hitting dummy. is there jsut way way more rage gen in raid situations?

[fringe vale]

im still farming rezan trinket since like the beginning of the week and past week also, im going insane it has dropped to everyone but me and ppl cant trade it bc they havent maxed their trinks im going insane

[warped bone]

BL - WF are 2 things that come to mind in raid

[fringe vale]

when i get it next stop is tott trinket omg im losing hair

[warped bone]

I feel ya Edd. Took me 30 runs, saw several during that time

[oblique trail]

Windfury makes a big difference in raid

And how smooth the rotation is

[primal bane]

I can’t grind trink in M+ anymore took me forever to get mark of dargul last season

[oblique trail]

It's like Arms before it became cosmetic rage bar

[robust widget]

which one do you need? I'll make sure to put it into your vault then

[primal bane]

Only raid trinks I need

I have mirror, rezan and butcher block

[subtle heron]

So uh... how bad is that Augury nerf?

[fringe vale]

i love how warrior is in a sence a selfish class, but that requires others to aid it in little for it to perform better

[primal bane]

Oceans isn’t simming well for me in aoe

[robust widget]

[inland flame]

pins

[subtle heron]

Thanks m8

[fringe vale]

its like the maximized prideful class

[robust widget]

can recommend getting one though

[primal bane]

Oh if I can I will def grab it

[forest owl]

Those rogue nerfs dont really seem like much

[primal bane]

I think in actual game play oceans would be better than mirror

[fringe vale]

it is, it alligns better

[primal bane]

Mirror get de synced so easily

[olive wraith]

we did it boys

[fringe vale]

with avatar

[olive wraith]

finally got a wep this season

[fringe vale]

not hero

[inland flame]

And you don't have to worry about what stat Ocean's procs

[primal bane]

Ew champ track

[olive wraith]

ive run 30+ dungeons

[robust widget]

yeah fuck mirror

[olive wraith]

and this is the first wep i got

[fringe vale]

i personally use mirror because i dont have might of the ocean, but yeah fuck mirror

[fast crest]

^ same

[primal bane]

Mirror feels good on tyran week tho

Big boss burst

[robust widget]

ye but i feel like, depending on pull speed + dungeon ofc, that smolderong might be just better no?

[olive wraith]

use branch

branch pog

[robust widget]

does a 15stack smolderon beat mirror on tyra

[primal bane]

Oh yea signet brand def better

[fringe vale]

just brand + rezan for st free dmg

[robust widget]

im unsure if i should i go augury + rezan, augury + smolderon or rezan + smolderon for ST 🤔

[fringe vale]

i feel fyrak is better in aoe

rezan in st claps and brand claps also

so in raid scenarious i would use rezan and brand for pure st

[oblique trail]

Or just sim it

[primal bane]

Yea I’m thinking tyran: signet brand + rezans fort week: augury + butcher block

[fringe vale]

for m+ i think might comes ahead of brand, since u gotta stack it

and tyran bosses takes like what 3m when hard

2m smt average

to kill

[oblique trail]

Depends entirely on what dungeon and key level

and your groups dps

[robust widget]

so many good trinkets 💀

[modest condor]

there is no world where you would ever run rezan over augury

[oblique trail]

If you just want an easy setup for M+ and you have the choice, go Augury + Might

[robust widget]

even ST?

[primal bane]

Rezan higher in ST

[oblique trail]

And in raid you can sim it, but Augury/Brand should beat anything

[modest condor]

i mean look at the pins

augury is already better than rezan on st

[robust widget]

true

[modest condor]

and it actually does something on aoe

[fringe vale]

ok sure ina perfect world where everyone has acces to augury sure, but that trink is gated with a extremely rare drop chance, rezan can be farmed it only takes mental health to spam atal

[modest condor]

that's not what he asked

like yeah ofcourse rezan can be farmed and augury cant

but if you have augury then you use it

[frosty karma]

I have augury and ran atal 31 times to have rezans in my bag too

[fringe vale]

i hate you

[frosty karma]

Got a socketed helmet and ring on the way

defintiely worth it

[dense elbow]

cough

[frosty karma]

that's a buff 🤓 ☝️

[left perch]

Belor self damage buffed :))

[modest condor]

oh no we didnt see that wowhead article yet that was posted over an hour ago, been discussed to death and had a pin made about it so people can stop dooming

[summer quail]

gonna be a fun night for you silm 🙂

[dense elbow]

[modest condor]

nah

[oblique trail]

The logical thing is just to ignore it

[high basin]

it will most likely proc when adds are up so its a W

[left perch]

This discord would be better the 90% of the duplicate questions were given as much attention as the “shut the fuck up I ban you” attention

but here we are

[dense elbow]

Smell that? Salt, like the sea

[oblique trail]

who

[olive wraith]

Why the hell did augury need a buff

[left perch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-didnt-ask-gif-21520662

[high basin]

i think only warriors and dhs needed it

[robust widget]

🤫

[marble schooner]

first time im lucky this whole patch man

[dense elbow]

But...

that is the allied or SF spot

[high basin]

just do boots instead

[marble schooner]

i can do boots

[high basin]

w/e

[marble schooner]

i already got boots atm

[dense elbow]

caugh

[robust widget]

Did anyone else get two big embers this week btw from killing fyrakk on both difficulties (normal then heroic)?

[dense elbow]

Two in total, ye. Not 2 from each kill

[robust widget]

Oh ye meant total, one from each

[dense elbow]

yep yep, that is how it is supposed to work, then you got RNG for minor shard thingies

[robust widget]

that means axe next week for us?

[dense elbow]

For sure

[primal bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rasyG1KwoXQxoein1WHjcd

you have to scroll down but you can see augury for me is a dps loss over rezans in ST

[robust widget]

its gonna be in our vault FunkyKitty because the screens were for sure real

[primal bane]

heroic version

[dense elbow]

legendary will drop before the last day of the tier

[compact knot]

isnt that mythic augry

gl getting that

[primal bane]

mythic is better than my 483 rezan yes

[compact knot]

ofc

it should be

[primal bane]

but who knows by the time i get one my stat weights might be different and its better all around in ST

[modest condor]

yeah and 489 rezan

[compact knot]

mythic augury defo bis on st over 489 rezans eye

heroic augury though

hm

[modest condor]

but even if you happen to get a 489 rezan and only have a normal augury it's still way better on aoe

[primal bane]

right but we talking ST

[compact knot]

i got 489 rezan first week gg

[random raptor]

Isn't augury just better if its the same level or higher?

[compact knot]

on st no

not always

[cerulean grail]

Augury is rlly good guys, even on normal

Stop trolling

[compact knot]

not saying its bad

[summer quail]

?

[primal bane]

nobody said it wasnt good

its just not better for me than rezan on ST

says my sims

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cCdhtBgFkbfFKBrAqRiuXV

[summer quail]

that's within margin

[tacit crag]

I think in my experience with my normal augury at 483 it's inconsistent. In aoe it's great. In st sometimes it's 6% of my damage other times it's 2%

Rezans is consistent

[pearl cradle]

is mirrored fractured better than other on use trinkets ?\

[robust widget]

the hotfixed on the 5th are trying to adresse that

[oblique trail]

On a single use case Mirror is typically stronger

[tacit crag]

Depends on your stats

[primal bane]

mirror is sim bait

[cobalt jacinth]

good thing the change to augury today just made it more consistent!

[oblique trail]

But Might is a lot more consistent and never desyncs

[tacit crag]

Oh sorry I didn't know there was a hot fix

[modest condor]

you must be loaded on crit

[robust widget]

oh right

[cerulean grail]

Dont you think The aoe effect Trump the little 121 "loss"

[compact knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2oiTwqhNvoCLBvwRtQtFf1

[primal bane]

no aoe in ST fight

[compact knot]

we arent tlking about aoe man

jesus

[oblique trail]

but what about aoe

[compact knot]

irrelevant

[primal bane]

and yes i have a big crit ring from vualt had a socket with it had to take it biggest dps upgrade

so that could be hurting its value a little

[modest condor]

im pretty sure it is

altho crit is good on aoe

which is very relevant right

[primal bane]

1020 crit on a 483 ring that can go to 489 yea

[robust widget]

what im gathering here is that its pretty much irrevelvant unless you go for top1 parse or mythic level raiding so play what one prefers

[modest condor]

i think i have a ring with 1300 crit lol

[primal bane]

in aoe augury wins hands down and yes you want the crit in aoe

[oblique trail]

I mean sure anyone can play whatever they want if they don't want to perform as best as possible and optimise

But Augury is one of the best trinkets regardless of the scenario

[modest condor]

pretty interesting, i think this is the first time in a long time that there's a big increase for a stat on aoe compared to st

[robust widget]

ye but i dont think a 121 simdps difference will decide stuff

as an example

[primal bane]

if you play war never pass on augury

[restive peak]

Anyone use Echo Raid Tools? I can't get it to open

[oblique trail]

I mean just because his sim says it's a 121 sim dps difference now, doesn't mean that it wont be a massive increase later

[modest condor]

yeah just need to get rid of that crit ring eventually

[primal bane]

right

like i said this was for me other may not see the same

[gilded pawn]

Isn’t that because bt auto crit doesn’t cleave?

[primal bane]

but i still need that trink regardless

[modest condor]

i would say more because of no bloodcraze value

[rugged coyote]

hello fury kings & queens - quick one, is there any reason I wouldn't want to macro recklessness, avatar, spear of bastion together?

[modest condor]

bloodcraze hard carried the bt crits on st

[modest condor]

you would completeley fuck up your opener by doing that

considering you want to press all 3 buttons at different points in your opener

[compact knot]

you should do it but not for the opener

[oblique trail]

Such macros are just bait imo

Teaches silly muscle memory

[primal bane]

why not stack reck and avatar

all the buffs stack

[tacit crag]

No

[gilded pawn]

Because reck goes with odyns

[modest condor]

you reck pre charge

[tacit crag]

Reck and odyns then avatar after odyns buff falls off

[modest condor]

if you avatar pre charge your OF doesnt hit anything

[primal bane]

i wouldnt reck precharge

[compact knot]

why

[tacit crag]

Reck + charge gets you ramp into odyns into enhanced BB then avatar after odyns buff gone

[noble frost]

wait, i use the opener of charge recklessness spear OF

[modest condor]

so you send spear and of without enrage?

[tacit crag]

No spear no odyns with enrage

[noble frost]

ok

i see

ok

[modest condor]

if you reck after charge you're relying on your auto attacks hitting to get enough rage to rampage

[dense elbow]

You gonna see a bit bump in DPS at least

[noble frost]

:C time to skip all that and use fresh meat

[oblique trail]

Fresh Meat is good in keys if you run DB

[tacit crag]

Reck - charge - ramp - odyns - bb/ramps till avatar buff falling off - avatar

[oblique trail]

But in ST/raid it's dog

[primal bane]

when i charge i use a reck avatar macro which def give me enough to rampage right away

[tawdry lily]

[tacit crag]

You're wasting odyns then

[oblique trail]

You're free to do this but it's just wrong

[modest condor]

but then you have an unenraged OF

[compact knot]

reck charge gives you enough

[primal bane]

im seeing it wrong trying to figure out what im wasting

[modest condor]

man getting pinged left right and center

[compact knot]

every single time

[primal bane]

is the odyns bleed?

[compact knot]

yes

[modest condor]

just odyns damage itself

[primal bane]

that doesnt stack your saying

[tacit crag]

Odyns buff and bleed and initial damage

[modest condor]

no the problem is that avatar procs odyns fury

[compact knot]

its physical and puts a bleed

[modest condor]

if you charge > reck+avatar you're not enraged

[primal bane]

reck doesnt enrage you? wth

[modest condor]

it doesnt

[primal bane]

im stupid

[tacit crag]

Also avatar before odyns doesn't that waste avatar buff time?

[compact knot]

opener should be reck charge rampage odyns spear avatar

[modest condor]

no it wastes OF cdr from 4set

[noble frost]

and dont we usually use the talent that reck pops ava and vice versa?

[oblique trail]

no

[cerulean grail]

[tacit crag]

Right alright I knew it wasn't right, was wrong about why mb

[modest condor]

missing a couple of gcds between spear and avatar there

[crystal summit]

we use OF procs ava and vice versa

[oblique trail]

Berserkers Torment was used last season

[primal bane]

so odyns bleed just refreshes it doesnt add time

[modest condor]

it adds up to 30% duration

so you can use avatar when the bleed has 1 second left or less

[noble frost]

oh right mb

[primal bane]

i usually charge then reck avatar into reg odyns then start pumping

[compact knot]

doing that doesnt feel good though

and really doesnt matter

[modest condor]

it does matter

[compact knot]

200000 dps vs 199900 dps

[oblique trail]

You lose OF bleed and DB uptime

[modest condor]

you're losing 1-2 seconds of OF bleed damage

[oblique trail]

There's literally no reason to just not space it out

[modest condor]

ok but it costs you literally nothing to get that 100 dps

[primal bane]

DB time doesnt stack either? OMG

[cerulean grail]

U dont want to avatar before the end of the avatar from odyn

[oblique trail]

It does, but only up to a max of 13 seconds

Not the full 20 seconds you'd expect

[compact knot]

i like blowing early than thinking strategically

[oblique trail]

Another way to say I like not doing the most damage possible

[compact knot]

and yet im doing just fine looking at wcl

[modest condor]

i mean if you dont care about minmaxing then be my guest but if you bring it up here people are gonna tell you you're doing it wrong

[cerulean grail]

Kekw

[robust widget]

what if i reck + OF macro, does the of not get enraged buffed either?

[primal bane]

yea that opener is way to much for my war brain

[oblique trail]

Do it on the dummy like 5 times

And you'll realise it's very easy once you get the hang of it

[primal bane]

i would have to change keybinds for all that

[tacit crag]

Reck doesn't enrage you

[primal bane]

i dont have avatar and reck on differnt keybind bc of macro

[cerulean grail]

Its a good investment

[modest condor]

[summer quail]

Bruh

[primal bane]

so i would ave to change my cadence which i just starting tpo prefect

[tacit crag]

How are we explaining the opener several times in the span of like 10 mins

[robust widget]

ye but the OF does, idk if the enrage from it already buffs its dmg

[primal bane]

blah that sucks

[modest condor]

only if you're talented into titanic rage

[oblique trail]

The Enrage buffs the damage of OF

If you have Titanic

[modest condor]

but we're talking about singletarget opener, so you're probably not

[cerulean grail]

Not with dancing blades

[robust widget]

💀 bruh my bad im in the wrong movie

[modest condor]

lmao

[cerulean grail]

A pad movie

[tawdry lily]

@tidal kindle miss you

[oblique trail]

where is gfury

[compact knot]

you use dancing blades to do more damage, i use dancing blades to proc springs keeper more often

[modest condor]

grats on the t swift kill

[tidal kindle]

[tawdry lily]

thank you, i can finally stop thinking about stomping on seeds

[oblique trail]

Soak 3 seeds

[tawdry lily]

😡

[modest condor]

until next week

[tawdry lily]

unless

[primal bane]

do our bleeds snapshot? or if you enrage after the bleeds they do more dmg?

[modest condor]

no snapshotting

[tidal kindle]

On keep myself safe watch till warrior is S++++ omegatier for a prog cycle

[cerulean grail]

Did u keep all pour cd at pull during 50s for Roots number two ? i cant bear it anymore

[tidal kindle]

[oblique trail]

It will never happen...

[tawdry lily]

ye, you just use OF until the 50 second roots

[tidal kindle]

Happened before, can happen again

[tawdry lily]

first roots quite literally do not matter

[cerulean grail]

Yeah i do that but miss so much boss damage

[sudden tusk]

man the 4p bleed with the arms tier

was hoping for something better

[tawdry lily]

i use potion right as the first roots come out and it carries over to next roots

[sudden tusk]

but it feels so lackluster

[tawdry lily]

but also i was running massacre and ashen jugg instead of WW talents

[modest condor]

any potion duration embellishment enjoyers?

[tawdry lily]

so trade off

[tawdry lily]

nope

[oblique trail]

Ring is reserved for flavour pocket

[cerulean grail]

Oh, i use pot on Root number two like the sir, didnt think about that

[wanton mirage]

fury buff lets go

[summer quail]

You can look at it like it says sd increases the damage of your exe by 50% then It doesn't feel as bad

[compact knot]

truth

[dense elbow]

We gonna be broken in...

[sudden tusk]

idk i feel pretty capped damage wise rn in dungeons

[compact knot]

anybody using mastery/vers food instead of str food cause it sims higher

zz

[sudden tusk]

was trying arms to see if that helped and feels like trash

[tawdry lily]

ye because every guild atm has DHs and hunters destroying those roots, so you kind of lose some value on potion no matter what, if you use it right as the first root happens, with OF you'll have potion up for the 2nd roots

[wanton mirage]

me

[compact knot]

chadding

[tawdry lily]

sacrifices had to be made

[oblique trail]

[summer quail]

Idk, still think arms does more overall damage in m+.

[night portal]

Are the augury changes a nerf?

[compact knot]

me as well

[summer quail]

No

[compact knot]

depends on dungeon though i think

[night portal]

They seem to be offsetting

[compact knot]

rise seems to be a very good fury dungeon

[oblique trail]

The changes are neutral

[night portal]

Ty

[modest condor]

yes

[oblique trail]

I keep using fated fortune cookies

[modest condor]

bought 500 of them this week

[tacit crag]

You guys seen that build the fury Warrior used on tindral to pad roots??

[oblique trail]

until I hit the 25k card

[modest condor]

yes

[oblique trail]

So far I've hit the 500g card twice

Made my money back almost

[compact knot]

surely you get a pocket instead

[modest condor]

lol

[summer quail]

Even if arms is more overall in m+ fury still has more st and is way tankier

[sudden tusk]

not sure which build to play need to test

i think deswinds been running bonegrinder varient

[modest condor]

even if i did i had to spend my first 2 crafts on real embellishments

[summer quail]

And timers are pretty lenient

[modest condor]

i got pretty fucked by crafted items being lower ilvl this tier because my pocket is on a weapon

[compact knot]

ive been running bonegrinder/hurricane/storm of steel entire time

it feels so nice

[tacit crag]

Is it actually the play on tindral? The timings lined up well

[compact knot]

hurts st a little bit but aoe is really good

[modest condor]

if you wanna pad

[tacit crag]

Our group sucks at killing them so I was thinking it was a win win to pad but also its needed for our guild

[compact knot]

killing roots is required tbh

[tacit crag]

Yeah and we're too slow at it.

[compact knot]

i wouldnt call it that pad

[oblique trail]

If your guild struggles sure you can do it

[compact knot]

not really?

[tacit crag]

My guild, not warriors

[compact knot]

oh

[tacit crag]

The guy basically played t30 build in t31 gear and outdps a warrior 10 ilvls above him by padding haha

[compact knot]

and still got outdpsed by a dh

kills your st ig

[tacit crag]

Not after these nerfs baby!

[olive wraith]

Isn’t it only a slight nerf

[tacit crag]

Idk I just saw 12% nerfs to aoe abilities

[compact knot]

on aoe its decent

st not much

[modest condor]

as yoda said "they could be double and dh would still be by far the best"

[tacit crag]

Big, true, and dumb

They were so far ahead before the nerfs

[summer quail]

Hahah...

[dapper goblet]

👩‍🦯

[verbal pond]

So augury its gonna get replaced?

[noble elm]

100 roll - the universe paying me back to running out 5 tornados

[left perch]

guys guys cmon, dh wasn’t doing 500k in rwf they could BARELY keep up with rogues they do not deserve our scorn

[fringe vale]

again the question

guys dont see the dot on the pin?

iuts red

red dot

[left perch]

imagine readers in skyhold

[modest condor]

im a warrior not a mage

[left perch]

real

[verbal pond]

Well just saw the pin, thank you for pointing it

God bless you brother

[static edge]

Why no warrior tuning since S2? If I’m correct, even with Lege we still lagging behind

[gleaming crag]

too bad it got nerfed

[noble elm]

read the pins

[oblique trail]

we're not

[rare moss]

Telling my raid team it got nerfed gives me more chances

[oblique trail]

the outliers atm are just so far ahead that we look like shit compared to them

[young swan]

we're upper middle pack

[olive wraith]

The perfect place

[gleaming crag]

I love not getting picked for keys, havent been able to ge tinto a Galakrond Fall all fucking day

[modest condor]

life of a non-meta pugger

[gleaming crag]

2434 should be enough to get into a fucking 18

[rugged coyote]

I fear this is why I'll end up quitting the game again

[gleaming crag]

472 ilvl

its not like im slackin

[languid girder]

play your keys

[modest condor]

if you wanna get invited to keys you gotta chase the meta

[gleaming crag]

dh and rogue hunter are getting hit with the nerf bat atleast

[rich gyro]

what the best stats for fury warrior now ?

[keen kindle]

And nothing will change

[rich gyro]

is it ok ?

[oblique trail]

sure

You should just sim top gear on raidbots for stat questions

We can't really tell you much otherwise

[olive wraith]

No speed

May as well reroll

[rich gyro]

i saw on Wow Logs / Wow Armory but a lot of people are taking different thinks

[olive wraith]

My dudes when wafting procs we gonzoomzoom it’s amazing

[olive wraith]

Most people just run top gear/ droptimizer sims

We don’t have breakpoints or caps

And we like all stats

[thorny bramble]

.is the new meta both weapons wafting?

[jovial heart]

The issue is a lot of players (myself included) who are higher io are currently spam farming keys to get certain items, and it makes more sense to bring someone who has 2900 over 2400. It sucks but yeah, run your own keys.

[olive wraith]

Wafting is simming better than sophic for me

[chrome plover]

frozen writ sims best for me :)

[chrome plover]

ngl i get invited to 20s instantly at 2600

[olive wraith]

That’s the vers one?

[chrome plover]

ye

[olive wraith]

Does it have a second proc

Like vers + something

[chrome plover]

it just gives you vers on proc

that's it i think

[olive wraith]

Wafting better

Speed is so fun

[gleaming crag]

I need to up this specific key though in order to gain the most IO I can this week from it being fort then next week get my easy 2.5k

[olive wraith]

Do a 16

Or time enough 18s where you can reroll to fall

[gleaming crag]

got into one finally

[gleaming crag]

thats a redic amount of farming that I dont have the time for currently

[olive wraith]

Then up the key one at a time

Pugs don’t like seeing a 3 level jump

[hybrid raft]

this tbh

[jovial heart]

Agreed, also higher keys get easier to get in because leaders actually start looking at logs rather than io.

[fringe vale]

FUCKING FINALLY

I GOIT REZAN TRINK OMFG

YES

IM FREE FORM ATAL

[hybrid raft]

until next week

[keen kindle]

is it hero track?

[fringe vale]

YEAH

OFC ITS HERO

wtf u think ill be farming trash?

[robust widget]

veteran

[keen kindle]

mine is champ but tbh I don't care

Just want portals man

[spare otter]

so do you send roar before or after avatar?

[subtle lagoon]

After avatar because of 20% damage increase from avatar

[noble elm]

Reck > charge + trinket > rampage > of > roar

[spare otter]

thats what i do yea

[noble elm]

Think that’s right for st raid aoe

[young swan]

u can ww mid charge

[noble elm]

Changes a little depending on your spec

[spare otter]

but like why not use it after avatar?

[noble elm]

Of gives you avatar

[young swan]

it doesnt really matter

[spare otter]

does it not get buffed?

[young swan]

dude

[young swan]

it does but most of the damage from roar comes from the dot

[spare otter]

and the dot doesnt get buffed ig?

[young swan]

it does

you can OF before roar or OF after roar

the difference is negligable

[spare otter]

oh im an idiot

[young swan]

as long as the dot is covered by avatar ur good

[spare otter]

i forgot OF gives avatar 🤦‍♂️

[fading bane]

gained like 70 dps with augury change batchest

[modest condor]

hugahuga

[subtle lagoon]

I don't understand how a 33% nerf to the trinket damage didn't change a thing. Does the rppm change really compensate that much?

[young swan]

33% nerf and 50% buff are the same thing

[keen kindle]

Yes it does

Just check the pins

[subtle lagoon]

I saw the pins

[keen kindle]

Augur procs are a huge thing for a class that has a lot of crit

[young swan]

all it serves to do is make the trinket more consistent

[keen kindle]

So even if they do less damage, getting more procs evens it out

[frosty karma]

most of the time a single tier buffed BB consumed my augury buff

[magic stone]

do we still love that trink after nerfs?

[young swan]

yes

its not a nerf

[modest condor]

it didnt get nerfed

[magic stone]

guild gas lighting me....

my b

[pulsar prawn]

Read blue post @magic stone

[fringe vale]

my guild leggit made the 2 havoc dh roll the augury trinket, bc they were the class doing more dmg

in fyrakk

i was liek kekw

[subtle lagoon]

Our bottom tier only logs on for raids DH won the roll for that trinket

It isn't even bis for dh

[proper peak]

man I feel bad now. took a heroic snake trinket last night as an upgrade and I just got a hero track rezan trinket

[modest condor]

such is gearing

that can always happen

[proper peak]

I also got a crab earlier

but its champion track

[snow edge]

Crab.. not really fantastic, okay'ish in MT

[proper peak]

this is the season of trinkets for me, rest of the gear not so much lol

[earnest olive]

should i recraft ring with hast mast?

or mast vers

[subtle lagoon]

I can't stand not having the flavor embellishment and will be recrafting a ring to keep it. As for the stats, just sim it.

I think both of those aren't bad but I'm leaning towards vers mast

[fringe vale]

omg i got might finally

im free

from the farm

now only need gorehowl XD

[subtle lagoon]

I was free from the gorehowl farm yesterday, best of luck. Both those dungeons suck to play.

[full viper]

So many hunters gonna change spec mid tier. Our raid gonna have to start farming Normal again

[clear light]

I'm always on 2nd or 3rd place in mythic run. is Mirror holding me back

[shell quail]

do our stats change for m+?

[spare otter]

tis impossible to beat a good dh

[past pivot]

As always. Sim.

[past pivot]

They can. Depends on gear and especially trinkets for burst.

And your level of keys.

[past pivot]

Crab is very solid in MT. Not really a trinket for ST.

[gilded pawn]

as a GENERAL statement

[young swan]

crit probably gains a little more value relative to other stats but nothing that you should be worrying about; ST stats will always be just as good

[gilded pawn]

on use stats>proc stats>damage for trinkets

in m+

unless tuning is off

[shell quail]

Ive swapped from arms to fury, so 6k haste/crit and like 1.5k and 1.7k of mast/vers :p just checking before i regem/enchant

[vivid peak]

Hello, what is the general recommendation for a non min max stats and switching between arms and fury? Currently was full on arms but not sure

[young swan]

definitely gonna want a lot more mastery

[shell quail]

sims showing mast/verse but simetimes theyre wrong

yeah bumped it up to 4.4k with enchangs/gems/a few piece swaps

[gilded pawn]

sims arent wrong

[young swan]

thought that was gonna be the other riku..

[gilded pawn]

you are asking the wrong questions

yo yeah

[shell quail]

I'm an ex WW main since MOP, sims aren't always perfect lmao

[young swan]

fury stats will always be better for arms than arms stats will be for fury

[mellow bobcat]

how many bosses should i sim when i sim for mythic plus build?

[gilded pawn]

sims arent perfect

but they are more perfect than any individual human

[subtle lagoon]

I do dungeon slice, 5t 40 sec, and 1t 3min

[past pivot]

If you sim properly, you should get accurate results.

[haughty token]

do we still run sophic dev and wafting dev?

[past pivot]

Those last two are weird.

[past pivot]

Whatever sims best

[vivid peak]

Tough day for bouncing back then. I’m sorta stuck on what to focus on

[ebon shore]

what are the bis set pieces?

[haughty token]

i think helm is the bad one

[young swan]

technically helm is the worst but the difference is 0.1% or less

[ebon shore]

really? heard legs are the worst

[young swan]

just take what you can get/what works for your gear

[young swan]

u heard wrong

[ebon shore]

kk ty

[subtle lagoon]

1t 3min for boss fights, and 5t 40sec for burst

Disabling lust also changes things

[umbral storm]

In our rotation, what takes priority, execute or rampage?

[subtle lagoon]

Probably rampage since you get BB from it which is our highest prio ability.

[shadow mauve]

Read on here recently that Lariat was still worth crafting/upgrading if you had enough sockets in it. what is 'enough'?

[gilded pawn]

basically all sockets is where it gets good

[shadow mauve]

which is 3, right?

[young swan]

no, all sockets in all socketable pieces

[shadow mauve]

oh

[young swan]

3 in neck, 1 in helm, bracers, belt, both rings

[shadow mauve]

gotcha, thank you for clarification

[young swan]

np

[south kayak]

Yo

Anyone knows which of the 3 specs got nerfed the worst

[gilded pawn]

i think sin rogue is that only one who got an aura nerf

[young swan]

I think sin? not 100%

[gilded pawn]

im gonna pretend is that one

[south kayak]

Prob not

[young swan]

i mean none of the nerfs were very big

[south kayak]

Bm does look kinda big

The beast damage was pretty huge

From the 2p

And the pets from fire beast

Dire

[young swan]

all ive heard is bm isnt that bad for ST

[sudden tusk]

the nerfs arent nearly enough for DH in M+

[young swan]

yeah none of them are big enough

for how much they've been overperforming

[sudden tusk]

like im blasting in keys

[young swan]

and will continue to overperform

[sudden tusk]

and dh is roughly 100k ahead of me

[stuck bison]

Are those nerfs gonna be enough ? Maybe in raid but not in m+. Havoc doing 50k-80k more than most of specs is sad

[south kayak]

They most likely want dh to be S tier for m+

[sullen dove]

i mean immo aura nerf also nerfs ragefire

and all of those nerf the chaotic duplication whatever

sure maybe not enough but i cant imagine its not pretty substantial

[stuck bison]

These nerfs most likely for raid right ?

[south kayak]

No

[sudden tusk]

the real issue is how they designed the class

when your top damage or close to is blade dance and death sweep

[south kayak]

Because their highest hitting ability in ST ain’t any of the ones they nerfed

[sudden tusk]

how in the fuck are they supposed to nerf it without destroying their ST

they are either going to have to cap them like every other class

or upcap the other classes

[sullen dove]

i mean dh isnt even above rogue st no

[south kayak]

Death sweep is capped

[sullen dove]

i was under the assuming most of this was m+

you dont fel barrage st

p sure

[sudden tusk]

most good DHs

dont even run fel barrage in M+

they run essence break

[delicate idol]

It would really be nice if we had some kind of uniformity to aoe caps

[south kayak]

I think fel barrage is too much st loss in m+

[sullen dove]

this class will cap at 5 because we said so, o that one? no cap no reason to

[young swan]

just realized ur pfp is frieren

just finished that the other day

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

goated anime

[delicate idol]

Gotta love Fury basically being the melee version of BM, same general principles for how we aoe

[sullen dove]

peak upon peak

[delicate idol]

But all of theirs is 8, and ours is 5

Excellent

[sullen dove]

plushy moment

[young swan]

gotta love that bm is just fury but better

other than survivability

but who cares about that

[delicate idol]

Not wrong

[sudden tusk]

you should watch apothecary diaries as well

its v good

[sullen dove]

idk if bms dont have to lust their hp pet ive seen some of them mfs at like 950k hp

[young swan]

i have a laundry list atm..

[delicate idol]

I just mean from a purely theoretical standpoint, our methods of AOE are almost identical- we press 1 button to allow 4s (essentially) of single target spread

[young swan]

need to finish dr stone and then need to watch love is war

[delicate idol]

But for some reason they aren't the same number cap

Boggles the mind

[sullen dove]

havent watched liw since season 2 read all of the manga doe

proly shall at some point

[sullen dove]

but you see one shoots a gun

[fair oasis]

so gorehowl i cant have 2 equipped. but the other 2h from keys i can equip 2 of ya?

[sullen dove]

uh ya

if it say this can never hold more than one

[sudden tusk]

its very fun when the funny class that requires only the kill command and multi shot button out dps's almost every other class in most situations but dh

[fair oasis]

you can loot multiple of the same unique-equipped right? jsut cant equip x2

[oblique trail]

yes

[young swan]

correct

[sudden tusk]

man farming might could be worse then farming the axe

the axe was 1/6

might is 1/10

[subtle lagoon]

I got lucky with might, got champ track then hero track relatively quickly

[thorny peak]

god damn craig cant catch a break

[fair oasis]

if i upgrade 1 wep to 483, will the next one only cost flightstones? or is it like rings and u jsut get fcked

[somber elk]

Only flightstones

[crude gate]

anyone tried ravager + rb + odyns build with new 4pc? seen some people running it

[tepid scroll]

What stat weights are you all running? Simming like 165k ST at 472 ilvl and I feel like thats really low

[crude gate]

should have clarified i think its only used for m+

[past pivot]

Don't use stat weights,. Sim top gear

[subtle lagoon]

I think people did that with 2p+2p? I can't imagine it being a good idea with 4p

[dense adder]

quick question what items should a fury warrior craft ???

[past pivot]

check pins for recommendations

[tepid scroll]

I guess for comparison a good question would be what are warriors simming for? Just to see if I am mad low or there is any major red flags

[past pivot]

It seems a little low. But can't tell without knowing gear, weapons, etc. You're simming top gear and stuff? What are your weapons?

[tepid scroll]

483 RavenCrest / 476 Gorehowl

My trinkets are dicking me though, Sprores of alacrity and Counterweight at 463

[past pivot]

You have 4P t31?

[tepid scroll]

Yeah

[past pivot]

If you use gear compare and change trinkets, what does that bump you up to?

[near gust]

we are supposed to sim patchwerk 5min for benchmark right?

[past pivot]

Top gear 1 target, 5 minutes, check buffs as you get in raid. That includes WF, yeah

with St gear and talents

[crude gate]

does odyns generate bonus threat or some shit

[heavy terrace]

goodmornig im pretty new to the whole simming proces and im trying to see what secondary stats are best for me but cant figure out yet how to find that can some 1 help me ?

[sullen hawk]

Wowhead has a general guide, but stats are going to be entirely dependent on your character and simming it

[past pivot]

Start with mastery and haste but with t31, it could be any secondary and mastery

[tepid scroll]

So when you sim top gear just select the different pieces you have for slots and go with what it spits out?

Oo I currently have 38% haste probs need to ditch that down with t31

[past pivot]

maybe, maybe not. Some people need more haste, some need less. Depends on gear,

Might have been today. Or in the past day or so. Someone posted a sim of around 215k dps with like 48% haste. And someone posted a sim of around 215k dps with about 24% haste.

[compact knot]

48% haste is like 10k haste

that shit is not simming at 215k dps

[past pivot]

34% actually. I looked up his post. 213 k

[rugged hornet]

Does anyone know if Cataclysmic Signet Brand can cleave on to more than one target? or is it only your main target that can get the dot?

[crimson bay]

Is it better to use BT while OF buff is active than wait for rage to rampage to BB?

[sinful spoke]

Im pretty sure ur supposed to send bt

For the cdr

[subtle lagoon]

I think it's ideal to have rampage for BB with the OF buff, should have a filler up. Worst case scenario you'd wait 1 gcd I guess but I think that happens when you've made a mistake in rotation

[thin cliff]

I just spent 8 mins or so AoEing the dummies, and the debuff only ever popped up on my primary target (procs very often)

[clear crescent]

seems simc is happy with my stats atm or am i simmng wrong no? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oySRtxWFzgA9KgukJZ4gBu

[past pivot]

Yes. Maybe try Earthen or Sophic but seems about right for the gear

[clear light]

i miss anger management

[dense adder]

whats the stat priority for fury now is it mast/vers or haste/mast still lol

[runic pine]

Fury owns

Finally got into the rhythm of the new build in m+ and am totally vibin

[past pivot]

It depends on gear lol Sim yourself lol Don't understand the lol at the end of the sentence lol

[runic pine]

No bro lol I need you to tell me lol. Do you expect me to read and put in effort lol?

[clear crescent]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jpTnPDWTUGvkbi8xi6RM5E hmm not wort changing yet i feel 😄

[past pivot]

No, probably not.

[past pivot]

lol

[runic pine]

Earthen was a good move for me, but I’m also a bit low on mastery and probably have too much haste cuz arms

Finally got my second 483 2h earlier from the worst 17 TotT I’ve ever ran

But now I’m putting myself in Rise jail

Then it’s DHT jail for that fat mastery ring

[past pivot]

Can't get Might or a 2nd 483 weapon. Guess that means Augury and Axe on Tuesday

[edgy widget]

I'm praying for a good vault for once this tier

[runic pine]

Got a 483 might from vault this Tuesday

Now it’s your turn

I’m passing it on

[edgy widget]

Down bad for a M weapon, or Augury of any level tbh

[sinful spoke]

Praying for augury or signet

🙏

[plucky ice]

aren't we all

[errant vessel]

same with augury

[sinful spoke]

Biggest things holding me back other than my adhd is trinkets

[edgy widget]

we haven't seen any M weapons or any Augury of any ilevel in raid yet

[errant vessel]

nope we haven't either :)

4 str 1h axes though

[edgy widget]

yeah

got like 6 tank trinkets and 8 1h axes or some shit

[subtle lagoon]

I think I'd overdose on dopamine if I get Augury hc

[edgy widget]

hardcore augury

[subtle lagoon]

[errant vessel]

that's metal

[vague thorn]

I got 60 atal run and i saw only one rezan trinket in all this runs. There is a trick ?

[errant vessel]

yes just loot it

[lavish grove]

Got benched on 1st boss mithyc this week, it dropped 2 2h

[lavish grove]

Skill issue

Also this trinket meh

[edgy widget]

Best I got is 476 champ track on my very first run, but it'll do for now

[errant vessel]

ye personally just gonna sit on Accelerating Sandglass/Might until I get Augury

[lavish grove]

Got 489 in vault

[errant vessel]

then gonna have Might/Augury on at all times

[subtle lagoon]

I was supposed to have normal mode augury now

[lavish grove]

It loses to heroic trinket from last boss badly

[clear thicket]

Goodmeuwning/afternoon/evening/night. New to fury warrior after playing mage every frikkin' expansion and wanted something else. And my god is fury fun to play with

Once you get into the vibe of the rotation

[spare otter]

I think ima farm might and sit on that and rezans until I get augury

Idk signet just feeling kinda mid

[edgy widget]

Signet is great for long fights, mid for short ones - definitely not a trinket you'll use all the time (unless you're just lazy like me)

I would say a general rule is if the fight is around 4m or less, probably use something else

if it's more like 5m+ then signet starts picking up a lot of value

[spare otter]

That's good to know

Feels Hella rng tho idk why

[edgy widget]

Nymue was 7m and it was almost 8% of my damage (ofc these numbers shift, there is definitely some RNG involved)

[spare otter]

Like I check other DPS and their signet does more DPS compared to mine

Weird

[edgy widget]

well it does crit, benefits from vers, haste, and does have some of its own proc RNG just like everything else

still plays to an RPPM average, but the faster you can build up those 15 firestarter stacks, generally the better it'll be

[fast crest]

is there any trick to rezan procs?

[edgy widget]

no, it's pretty straightforward

[spare otter]

Damn I got gapped by rng

How long does signet even last until stacks start falling off?

[fast crest]

another warrior, same boss fight (fyrakk) proc'd it 96 times vs my 58

[near gust]

do you guys multidot with 2p or its so low that id doesnt matter?

[subtle lagoon]

I'm still using raid finder signet

[errant vessel]

aug just dropped on normal

someone on alt needed on it and got it

[ebon shore]

isn't it nerfed soon anyway

[errant vessel]

dmg reduced by 33% but rppm increased by a factor 1.5

[lavish grove]

Nah, I just dps prio target

[errant vessel]

so no it evens out actually

[subtle lagoon]

That's so triggering, if it's a guild run alts shouldn't get it

[errant vessel]

nah just a pug hahah

if it was a guild run that would've split the entire guild lol

[surreal oyster]

Idk if this got asked before and I could not find a message with this.

If we cleave BT on a execute target does it do increase dmg to it without the maintarget beeing in execute?

[spare otter]

At this point I'm pretty sure the tank in my guild has a higher prio of getting augury than me

[subtle lagoon]

Pretty sure your target has to be below 35% health to get the extra damage, so always cleave through that target

[young swan]

yeah, vicious contempt does a check on all targets. Also means you cant cleave that same execute damage if the main target is in execute but the secondary isnt

[subtle lagoon]

Ah right it doesn't say "target" but enemies instead, my bad

[surreal oyster]

ok so if maintarget is not in exe but secondary is it gets incrased dmg did i understand correctly?

[young swan]

correct

[surreal oyster]

Alright thanks a lot

[lavish grove]

You still want to target execute target tho, no?

For more damage

[young swan]

its technically more damage yeah

[lavish grove]

Unless it's irrelevant

[young swan]

but then either u lose frenzy stacks or ur target swapping for ramp and BT

[lavish grove]

Or just mouseover bt

[young swan]

prob better off just letting it do the damage it does rather than worrying about which target is lowest and playing hot potato with differnt skills on diff enemies

mouseover BT works too

[shy knot]

All 3 busted specs getting nerfed hehehe

[young swan]

not enough i fear

[shy knot]

The sin nerf looks too small

[young swan]

they're all too small

[subtle lagoon]

They probably don't want to desimate any spec outright, but it should be gradual. So there should be more incoming nerfs.

[shy knot]

Our potential is hidden now

[lavish grove]

Good nerfs tbf

[shy knot]

When pumpers get leggo it should jump

[subtle lagoon]

Kinda sucks that we won't even be on top with a legendary. Other classes get normal loot and shit on us lego stans

[hallow sphinx]

@young swan

[lavish grove]

Other classes have cool loot too

[young swan]

[errant vessel]

we're not too far off though

except if you compare us to assa rogue

or havoc

[young swan]

we're still like barely upper middle

with the new nerfs it'll be closer but we're still like 5% worse or so

[subtle lagoon]

Most of our damage is padding

[errant vessel]

ye but ~6% increased dmg from lego

[hallow sphinx]

peep footmanshoeboy

[errant vessel]

should put us very close

[young swan]

yeah like 5%

like i said

i was already taking the lego into account

[young swan]

indestructible radiance of azshara incident

[shy knot]

Thats sad then

[errant vessel]

I mean we're currently (at 95 parse) only 14k off havoc which comes in 2nd

[shy knot]

Warriot bis with leggo should be Antorus situation

[hallow sphinx]

????

[young swan]

on what fight

[errant vessel]

we'll most likely be tied with havoc with the lego

all bosses

[young swan]

i mean the bis profiles are already up on simcraft

with the lego

just go check

[plucky ice]

losing with leggo to fotm rollers this fking game

[young swan]

i think the hotfixes went in

[errant vessel]

ye I'm just saying that in practice we're gonna be tied

[young swan]

sin rogue simming for 244k now

in practice its worse for us cause sin rogue gets the PI's

[subtle lagoon]

Outlaw next

[errant vessel]

what hotfixes

the 1st december one?