well i got 92k I'm a casual andy
#fury
silver frigate
ember apex
dragon races on alts
idk what to tell u
theres no way to make money in. the expansion
silver frigate
don't have to tell me anything bro its chill
ember apex
thats why i goblin on expac launch
shell jackal
what am i seeing
augry and the axe
who's balls did you have to fondle to get that kind of luck, min broder i krist 
congratulations, holy shit
spiral oasis
Bobby's balls
clever path
all the na luck went to eu
warm crag
FUUUCK!
atomic nymph
This is the newest one, i went cow
clever path
This is the newest one, i went cow
can i have just a smidge of your luck pls
vapid mulch
so im trying fury for the first time since SL, and i have downtime?> am i missing a button?
my APM isnt 400?
urban tapir
correct its 399
sullen dove
urban tapir
so one button off 
wary fjord
Do you use slam?
wary fjord
Yeah, we use slam now
vapid mulch
yeah, im missing slam
wary fjord
It generates rage with storm of swords
vapid mulch
ty lads
warm crag
do you have 4p? @vapid mulch
soft bone
bloodbath > bloodthirst > slam or slam > bf?
oblique trail
Slam is the 2nd lowest filler next to WW
plush flower
oblique trail
Basically
Exe if Ashen and it's about to fall off > BB > Ramp > Exe > BT > Slam > WW
Something like that
Rule of thumb though is that if you have enough rage to Rampage, and you got BT ready, you can BT first then Rampage
And SD/Execute if you're under 110 rage
coarse nest
Does charging apply the dot?
Otherwise wouldn’t you need to hit boss before first use?
oblique trail
Any attack should apply the dot
atomic nymph
can test
oblique trail
from the lego
wary fjord
If you whirlwind, does it apply it to all targets hit?
young swan
believe arma said its any phys tagged white/yellow attacks
atomic nymph
If you whirlwind, does it apply it to all targets hit?
yes
wary fjord
Yo, nice
oblique trail
Guildie sold it for 650k an hour ago
coarse nest
Bad deal for them
edgy widget
believe arma said its any phys tagged white/yellow attacks
correct (not sure about white hits) but specifically yellow melee attacks trigger it
which is why dnd/conc doesn't, but Whirlwind does
flat river
Guildie sold it for 650k an hour ago
coarse nest
Easily could have sold 800k
flat river
it was a ret, when i asked him first he said nah but then messaged me saying he simmed it and that it was worse so he sold it to me :D
flat river
somehow yes
hazy jacinth
so I play both specs, with a little more fury than arms, I want to craft a 486 wep, what stats should I use?
oblique trail
I mean it sims like dookie for my Arms compared to Fury
wary fjord
Did he sim it un-upgraded?
oblique trail
With what trinkets I got
flat river
Did he sim it un-upgraded?
yes
oblique trail
so I play both specs, with a little more fury than arms, I want to craft a 486 w...
Ideally you shouldn't craft a weapon, and just farm Hero track weapons instead from M+
flat river
i think
oblique trail
But if you're absolutely certain, then mastery + crit or mastery + vers
flat river
its hero 3/6 though
coarse nest
I may or may not have yoinked ToT neck because the guy simmed it without sockets or upgraded
🤫
wary fjord
Lol
hazy jacinth
Ideally you shouldn't craft a weapon, and just farm Hero track weapons instead f...
Imagine actually getting into an m+ pug
oblique trail
I don't have to imagine
wary fjord
Actually evil behavior
hazy jacinth
Spent 45 minutes trying to get into pugs lol
flat river
i also got 2-set pieces
coarse nest
Just run dungeons with guildies bro
shell jackal
what trinkets would you boys use on mythic council?
oblique trail
Whatever sims best in ST
summer quail
Spent 45 minutes trying to get into pugs lol
score and gear? i get into keys easily at 2740 and 477
coarse nest
We’ve been doing 22s-25s
shell jackal
ive got hc signet brand, rezans (champion only), hero track hourglass
oblique trail
Just sim ST
shell jackal
council is mostly ST? i figured you'd be cleaving a lot of bosses
oblique trail
It's basically an ST fight with occasional 2nd target cleave
shell jackal
if its st ill just run rezan/signet brand
oblique trail
Depending on your tanks
hazy jacinth
462 and 2100, can’t get into much really
hazy jacinth
score and gear? i get into keys easily at 2740 and 477
Well no shit your ilvl is 477 lol
storm steeple
How does the bad luck protection work for the new lego/
sullen dove
_ _/
coarse nest
If you don’t loot it you’ll have better luck next time
oblique trail
kills boss -> dont get lego but get ember -> use ember -> higher chance next time you kill him
storm steeple
Do you have to use the ember right before?
wary fjord
You get embers, they give you better chances
sullen dove
storm steeple
or can you use it anytime?
urban tapir
thats fuckin 
oblique trail
Just use the embers when you get them
storm steeple
Okay thank you, do you see it as a buff?
summer quail
462 and 2100, can’t get into much really
makes sense, there's tons of dps applying. so if you didn't get score/gear early you're getting left behind
noble elm
462 and 2100, can’t get into much really
462 is on the low side of average right now, you’ll struggle for a while
oblique trail
what if I am broken
golden hare
you pick up the pieces and try again
dawn pivot
does tindral roots count into logs?
oblique trail
yes
sullen dove
golden hare
i will do anything for you
oblique trail
omg clipping and screenshotting this
ember apex
same
dawn pivot
so I should save odyns etc for it
edgy widget
you should, though less because of logs and more because its a big aoe button and people need to be broken out of roots quickly
edgy widget
which is actually a downside if you're going for raw damage 😆
oblique trail
Sometimes you gotta be a trooper and play for the raid 🫡
olive wraith
Idk but there seems to be a macro for dropping fire on roots
rotund steppe
lmao
meager void
which is actually a downside if you're going for raw damage 😆
would you say that Titanic Rage is worth it on Tindral M? Napkin math tells me its better to WW right at the end of root cast, burst with saved OF and consume the 4 WW stacks with ST after.
jade fjord
If the Odys BT buff is active to i always use BT or do i wait for rampge to have a BB?
I think every 2nd GCD should be a BT but i'm unsure in those scenarios
meager void
because of the heavy impact of Dancing Blades on boss damage
edgy widget
would you say that Titanic Rage is worth it on Tindral M? Napkin math tells me i...
yes
- if you're using OF mostly against AoE targets (Gnarlroot/Tindral), TR is better
- if you're using OF mostly against Single Targets (Larodar), DB is better
clever path
can i ask you a question Archi, do you play any other classes other than warrior
oblique trail
Is there a macro to drop seed from Fyrakk?
#showtooltip ExtraActionButtion1
/click ExtraActionButton1
flat river
ok guys raid is over and i got 4 items
oblique trail
This works for any special action
left perch
Is there a macro to drop seed from Fyrakk?
World second raider just clicked it no big deal
rotund steppe
edgy widget
Is there a macro to drop seed from Fyrakk?
it's called the Extra Action Button - you can find it under wow's default keybindings interface
you can also make a macro with it if you want to (just google it rq)
flat river
skill issue
primal bane
a signet brand and augury could add like another 5K dps
primal bane
skill issue
i'll roll harder next time
flat river
xd
modest condor
tfw no wft
clever path
edgy widget
I like that both of the best trinkets this tier are kinda RNG fest
rotund steppe
no axe, no gear, not even embers blizzard hates me
edgy widget
Augury sometimes does 3% sometimes 12%
Brand does like 2% against short fights and 10% against long ones - very possible it'll fall out of bis once we get into deep farm
primal bane
what do you think will replace it?
Razan seems pretty consistant
ima kinda holding on to every trink i get just in case
shell jackal
what do you use on mythic council, archi?
edgy widget
idk, depends on how short fights actually get once we have a few people in BiS with legendary and helmet enchants, etc
primal bane
true helm enchant will be a big boost to dps for the raid
edgy widget
what do you use on mythic council, archi?
I played Arms and our Council is a shitshow, but I used Rezan + Signet
but both were pretty poor, only like 2% of my damage each
shell jackal
ahhh okay yeah for sure, i'm running fury atm and i was trying out hourglass on it cheers tho
primal bane
i hate that council fight
edgy widget
yeah it's too chaotic to be considered a real cleave fight
edgy widget
not a matter of range, just the bosses are constantly moving around
fading sky
Worst part is when we have good stack, then pip is on 50% and u gotta switch even as melee
Cpz range be paddin as well🤣
primal bane
yea shits jumping everywhere
primal bane
are we the only melee class that has to be in the bosses buttshole to hit it?
green gazelle
Hey y'all. Sims are saying I should be using hissing runes over buzzing for dungeon slice. I'm assuming that's because it's showing I have a 100%+ uptime on Gushing Wound. Is there any other reason why you would run buzzing rune?
primal bane
try not simming Dslice
big number looks nice and all but prob not the best sim to use
green gazelle
Fair. Is there a better representation for M+ simming though?
subtle lagoon
I'm mad, Augury dropped and our bottom of the barrel dps won the roll.
subtle lagoon
thick fable
are we the only melee class that has to be in the bosses buttshole to hit it?
Suppository Warrior.
fading sky
Suppository Warrior.
My next gnoam warrior
dawn pivot
do you guys have any pov on how I could play on specific bosses? rotation wise
covert coyote
I'm mad, Augury dropped and our bottom of the barrel dps won the roll.
This is the way
covert blaze
prog going well
what you proggin bud
ruby eagle
what do you guys think about the "cataclysmic signet brand" trinket? how is the trinket doing for you guys on a boss (on avarage)
primal bane
This is the way
i feel you pain a rogue won it then simmed it and said it was trash then gave it to a DH made me cry
primal bane
then found out later it isnt bis for DH and said he should have gave it to me. Made me cry more
shell jackal
we just started it quack
dawn pivot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wz4pXrtESGzChLW838LqES
what are your stats
primal bane
raw numbers or %
dawn pivot
both
primal bane
i dont have any buffs on right now
crit: 2984 Haste: 3671 Mastery: 4681 Vers: 3814
also this is pure single target
bronze magnet
buffed
primal bane
big crit
spice hemlock
any WA that would show casts being cast on me?
red yew
crit: 2984 Haste: 3671 Mastery: 4681 Vers: 3814
@warm crag I think he has 48 too much haste what do you think
errant vessel
can someone confirm that the fyrakk 1h str axe drops twice as much as any of the other items?
spice hemlock
ty
edgy widget
https://wago.io/tDT26wrXg
it has a few false positives, but is generally very useful, yeah
frigid zealot
ive noticed as a tank its cursed
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> I think he has 48 too much haste what do you think
i think anyone that posts their stats as a number should be permanently banned from twitter
frigid zealot
as dps it isn't so bad
like it tells you to reflect when stuff is cast on others from having agro before casts, its weird.
lyric panther
silver mantle
Did cataclysmic brand signet get nerfed by any chance?
frigid zealot
as far as im aware no?
be supprised if they nerfed it more than the nerf before patch
silver mantle
Used to be on par with my heroic serpent idol, sometimes even better
olive wraith
It was nerfed once I think. But not since
silver mantle
Now it's legit dogshit
olive wraith
Brand?
silver mantle
Maybe I'm playing it wrong
warm crag
wdym used to be on par
primal bane
signet brand dogshit huh?
olive wraith
Just to be clear you mean the smolderon trink
primal bane
i need to be in that guys raid gimmie signet if you dont want it
warm crag
signet brand has not been nerfed nor adjusted in simc to my knowledge, can you post a sim where it does worse?
past pivot
Now it's legit dogshit
What are you smoking?
silver mantle
warm crag
link the log
flat river
silver mantle
warm crag
mm yes trinekt is shit due to sample size 1
primal bane
lol normal
warm crag
how long does signet need to ramp up
edgy widget
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/82tAQfNRncLX6pa9#fight=22&type=damage-done&...
it's a 2m kill - brand takes time to ramp up
edgy widget
I mean it still looks a little lower than it normally should there, but Brand specifically takes a good while to ramp up, and is going to be weak on very short encounters
which is also one of the reasons it's not good in M+ if you can't chain combat to keep stacks from falling
flat river
true
frigid zealot
primal bane
any old avil gamers know what im talking about
edgy widget
there are still times it can falter, but this is one of the better weeks for it, yes
warm crag
augury rageheart thoughts
red yew
i think anyone that posts their stats as a number should be permanently banned f...
Why stop there
frigid zealot
i swear augery is undervalued
playing with a dh yesterday in keys he fucking owned me on overall and his trinket did insane damage
past pivot
🦀 is undervalued imo. And Razan is more of an St-centric trinket
edgy widget
I use crab atm, it's decent
warm crag
@tidal kindle crab regret
olive wraith
Avoid do be pretty good
green gazelle
ily garms
olive wraith
Woah when did my mastery get to 61
green gazelle
Avoid do be pretty good
Avoiding responsibilities, amirite
olive wraith
Avoiding responsibilities, amirite
silver mantle
Thanks for answering my question guys. I was kind of confused since it performed way better last normal raid but apparently the guild is just too geared and we blast faster than it can ramp up.
olive wraith
That was mostly the issue people had with anvil too
Solid trink but short fights/stacks drops make it doodoo
merry vessel
i need to avoid MORE
silent burrow
LET you
silver mantle
Another stupid question incoming: are the greater and lesser embers we get from Fyrakk exclusive to the difficulty we get them in or they work on all difficulties in general? (i.e. the ember I get from normal only increases the chance for a drop from normal raid or from all difficulties)
silent burrow
bro I dodged that shit
The only thing council is good for is a kill for your box lol
green gazelle
my guild didnt let me come to council
As the solo warrior of my guild, I hope you understand how blessed you are for that.
hard widget
Rank 1 hc fyrakk letss goooo
flint elbow
what fight style do you guys use to sim m+? Dungeon slice?
edgy widget
Another stupid question incoming: are the greater and lesser embers we get from ...
all difficulty
ember apex
As the solo warrior of my guild, I hope you understand how blessed you are for t...
i want 9/9 dawg i dont care about much else
i will sit in for a shitty boss and prog on it for 3 weeks if it means im 9/9M at the end of it
silent burrow
I don't imagine anyone going to be extending until tindrel
green gazelle
i want 9/9 dawg i dont care about much else
Fair.
wary sail
I just picked fury back up after 6 years
And damn i missed this spec
green gazelle
I think you'll get guilds extending at Somolderon.
silent burrow
I mean I'm sure some will... but there really isn't much reason to
Seems like inting a bit tbh
young swan
i imagine most guilds will just reclear smolderon for trinkets until tindral and fyrakk get nerfed to a reasonable level
green gazelle
Other than pip trinket, is the much reason to reclear weekly for gear up to that point?
young swan
pips isnt even a great trinket
green gazelle
I know for us, sure. But raid wide it seems pretty desired
silent burrow
Ye. signet brand good for so many classes
ember apex
i made my guild give me one immediately
but that means i got normal mode
not heroic
wary sail
A lot of guilds prob gonna keep reclearing ro get pips on all their rogues at least
green gazelle
I got first heroic drop thankfully.
primal bane
has a dps war gotten a lego drop yet?
ember apex
we got a drop on heroic before we did normal and the heroic one went to ret pala to gauge lethality lol
oblique trail
Err
languid estuary
I told my guild 2h class still need smold trinket and fyraak and they’re like “that’s cool, so as of next week we’re not clearing normal”
oblique trail
Has anyone else had their Smolderon orbs just get soaked by other people
silent burrow
very annoying
ember apex
wait u can get more than 5x stacks?
primal bane
I told my guild 2h class still need smold trinket and fyraak and they’re like “t...
you can pug normal pretty easily at least you get heroic loot
ember apex
hold the phone
green gazelle
Has anyone else had their Smolderon orbs just get soaked by other people
Is that even possible? Pretty sure only you can see them
silent burrow
There's a weakaura but it felt like echo prog all over again with people's WA not working
meager gyro
we got a drop on heroic before we did normal and the heroic one went to ret pala...
Personal loot no? How do you choose personal loot
oblique trail
Is that even possible? Pretty sure only you can see them
It's possible because a lot of people in my raid just now had their orbs get soaked by other peopel
Obviously not intentional
ember apex
Personal loot no? How do you choose personal loot
everyone passes on all items by default
and then we council the items based on dps gain
oblique trail
However they can't see the orbs
green gazelle
Do you have logs, maybe can check.
languid estuary
you can pug normal pretty easily at least you get heroic loot
Yeah but then I have to deal with pugs and other people to roll against
primal bane
normal loot is trash tho
silent burrow
Oh I'm thinking of larodar not smolderon
ember apex
actually normal loot basically = heroic
green gazelle
You might be able to check via orb stacks, if they overlooked cappiing it at 5
meager gyro
everyone passes on all items by default
Loot council, all good, I just didn't know it worked on personal loot
primal bane
normal loot cap 476?
silent burrow
We have had issues with the orbs just not even coming out @oblique trail
silent burrow
Like they soak, get knocked, don't use any movement, no orbs come out and the boss doesn't get any stacks
cause no orbs ever came
silent burrow
wild
clever path
Rank 1 hc fyrakk letss goooo
check in a couple of days lol
small osprey
Has anyone else had their Smolderon orbs just get soaked by other people
just started happening a couple pulls ago
brilliant
modest condor
<:yep:703420923625078804>
i deleted that one really fast
dull sierra
rich flame
should i avoid spending OF charges on bloodthirst by generating with slam/ww instead, or should i just spend on bloodthirst anyways?
frosty karma
anyone else on smolderon but intermission orbs are disappearing
nvm i scrolled up
twilit harbor
was smoleron changed? we're not getting orbs on heroic
loud basin
@twilit harbor if you don't get to soak, or just don't soak then you don't get orbs
twilit harbor
<@263043489623834624> if you don't get to soak, or just don't soak then you don'...
not the issue
edgy widget
should i avoid spending OF charges on bloodthirst by generating with slam/ww ins...
avoid as much as possible, yes
coarse nest
Does fury like Dslice with droptimizer at all?
rich flame
avoid as much as possible, yes
Thanks
languid estuary
\
placid current
We got orbs but they just kinda disappeared
same happened for us since the last 30mins
autumn mica
rare moss
from na
molten relic
Think one guy said he finished it
But seemed like cap cause all the ss were cropped
Per usual
rare moss
who even got it on liquid?
molten relic
Scot I think
frosty karma
My prediction is that blizzard is weirdly testing a hotfix for next week that allows orbs on heroic and normal to be soaked from other players as well
and that somehow is bleeding into mythic right now
past pivot
who even got it on liquid?
DK Tanks for echo and liquid.
plucky ice
its fine but i keep messing cds lmao
jovial heart
What's the actual damage difference between SMF and Titans?
silent burrow
my haste also dropped down massively. im at 30%....
that's more than enough, I'm at 22 and it's fine
past pivot
my haste also dropped down massively. im at 30%....
As long as you sim and follow recommendations, you’re good.
past pivot
What's the actual damage difference between SMF and Titans?
Enough that smf is still a meme.
warm crag
picks talent that increases his strength based on armour
gains strength when equipping more armour
crazy
barren dagger
just because lambent is listed as bis. that's why
warm crag
ye idk why
cloud jungle
Titanic Rage vs Dancing blades
Whats better for mythic +?
Do you guys shift depending on Tyra or Forti?
past pivot
just because lambent is listed as bis. that's why
Anything other than the legendary axe listed as “bis” has to be taken with a grain of salt.
barren dagger
yeah depends on gear
past pivot
And situation.
warm crag
you should probably play dancing blades but titanic rage is infinitely easier to play so most just go for that
barren dagger
Titanic Rage vs Dancing blades
i love titanic for the WW stacks in m+
cloud jungle
Easier cause WW is on CD?
oblique trail
No easier because you don't have to enrage before using OF
And it makes your burst window smoother
warm crag
same idea but you shift around some points from improved ww to other stuff
past pivot
And in terms of AOE/ST its pretty much same build?
Read the guides. Some talents are different. Our damage profiles are very similar between the two though.
cloud jungle
Cheers
olive wraith
Can someone tell me warrior brain what pip trink does
So you get a small stat
Then proc a diff large stat?
fickle bluff
constant small stat, when it goes big stat, it changes small stat
or it changes when big
but yeah it just cycles
indigo quarry
covert blaze
compact knot
2 igira daggers (with terts), ring and rogue tier from mythic igira, one rogue got dagger, ring and tier @spare otter
crazy rogue loot
covert blaze
is he gapping everyone hard
compact knot
is he good atleast
spare otter
no i gapped everyone in igira by miles
compact knot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910301001775480905/1179895535432368279/Di...
chatting
spare otter
10m dps gap from 2nd dps
plucky ice
we got signet but gave it to guy with 1% up lmao
frosty karma
is the proper smolderon mythic tech to delay the orbs as far outside as possible or not, my CDs always happen during the last dodge or gate
plucky ice
fury buff 10% soon bros
frosty karma
if intermission was 5 seconds later it wouldnt be so giga cursed
plucky ice
olive wraith
Fury feeling good
unreal onyx
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/910301001775480905/1179895535432368279/Di...
says who
unreal onyx
real
covert blaze
real
rotund ginkgo
why did no one tell me warr can leap over bears on dht 😮
olive wraith
What
compact knot
you leap to the side
delicate idol
same principle as the lock gate skip, just for you only
warm crag
you can leap every gate skip afaik
rotund ginkgo
i never saw the lock gate skip in my defense
.
primal bane
Kinda blasted this key 22 Throne
primal bane
critcake the god war
oblique chasm
poggies
glacial tartan
bruh
clever path
wheres the shield
mossy fox
dropped it
granite flume
Spare some of that ilvl
oblique chasm
I'm not even close also (arms Lul)
olive wraith
I can’t get a wep to save my life
rare moss
going to get axe soon? @mossy fox
mossy fox
going to get axe soon? <@235809563490779136>
dunno ask blizzard
rare moss
ill ask for me too
minor halo
My uncle that works at blizzard told me yes
plush flower
No Smolderon Trinket 
flat river
I really need more mastery :P
quaint stag
i take back anytime i've ever trashed paladins. Prot pala just traded me 483 upgrade path might trinket
flat river
I have 43
plush flower
neat offhand enchant 
flat river
lol
rare moss
my mainhand simmed frozen writ im keeping it
clever path
flat river
Hopefully next vault i get fyrak trink or good weapon
tough tapir
Hello, im searching an good war fury (french) beacause i need to optimise my war. ty ^^'
flat river
U're 10 ilvls ahead of me
flat river
empty grove
if double wafting sims highest im using double wafting
covert blaze
What, you can't stand in the middle and hit all 3 bosses the entire fight for free?
Skill issue
unreal onyx
at least im somewhat starting to game now
except for my horrendeous weapons and ring
(I also have hc signet)
covert blaze
Ashkandur
covert blaze
My paladin is 3 days old and got heroic smolderon weapon in a pug
unreal onyx
we cleared hc today
covert blaze
I only have 1 hero track weapon on my warrior
unreal onyx
surely
I got greater ember from fyrakk normal, fyrakk hc
and from tindral hc a lesser
but I just got council myth helm, that was huge upgrade from my 463
compact knot
im so angry
unreal onyx
now I don't have to buy a boe helm anymore
compact knot
i got so screwed from multiple bosses this week
empty grove
bro least a heroic augury trinket didnt go to a tank like what happened in my raid 😂
covert blaze
I'm a helper in my guild nowadays so I got my first pieces from raid this week
open crag
does any1 know how i can make a WA show the raginblow icon instead of the slam one ?
covert blaze
I will never see an augury if I don't vault it probably
covert blaze
does any1 know how i can make a WA show the raginblow icon instead of the slam o...
Fallback icon on display
olive wraith
People really hate seeing slam that much
open crag
Fallback icon on display
Thanks !
covert blaze
covert blaze
People really hate seeing slam that much
I don't get it personally
balmy shore
come on n slam
clever path
at least im somewhat starting to game now
is this the sod mog?
unreal onyx
is this the sod mog?
partly
clever path
looks good
unreal onyx
does any1 know how i can make a WA show the raginblow icon instead of the slam o...
pins
covert blaze
is this the sod mog?
Looks like sod + newest dk tier off piece
solid vortex
just a question about initial rotation at boss pulls in raid, some boss fights are purely single target and kyrian spear seems legit but the issue is tanks move the boss sometimes at pull to get better boss positioning and may take a few seconds like 3 or 4 or so, what should be my opener during those 3 or 4 seconds before i drop the spear on the boss when the tank finally got it where the boss needs to be, cause most of the first cast abilities like odyns fury and the first bloodthirst are strong and using those abilities without the spear down yet seems to be a dps loss, any suggestions about a opener while the tank is figuring out where to put the boss
clever path
it looks good, i want the weps
clever path
for real?!
clever path
fine with me, it almost looks like thunderfury
empty grove
I see alot of people in mythic raiding using the allied wristguards instead of double shadowflame. double shadowflame sims higher for me at the current moment but is there something in the sims i need to add or do to give it a correct sim? or just simply using a gear compare sim will give me the actual numbers?
olive wraith
Allied wrists means you take less damage
thorn venture
Hello darkness
olive wraith
Oof
empty grove
Hello darkness
so close dude
thorn venture
We went well past the kill point too, just had trash P1/2 boss dam
pallid cipher
Can we get more than one greater ember per week from Fyrakk by killing him on other difficulties?
Or is it just once per week?
tepid forge
So for next week, do we know if its best to do normal fyrakk for the guranteed greater ember then hc clear in to hc fyrakk?
Or just do hc first
unreal onyx
Can we get more than one greater ember per week from Fyrakk by killing him on ot...
I got one on nm and one on heroic this week
and one lesser from tindral hc
unreal onyx
not that I know of
pallid cipher
Cool cool.
spare otter
nope
covert blaze
Why are you enchanting that on pants
spare otter
idk man thats what the sims said a while ago
covert blaze
Susge
50 dps is within margin of error btw
Probably make a long term decision taking best off piece into account
covert blaze
You might get a myth track piece on reset yeah
manic spire
lego mats prices keep dropping since sunday, but for how long..
unreal onyx
as long as the blp is high enough for a good amount of people to get it
empty grove
curious as to why youre using the primary and vers leg patch
dawn pivot
so I upgraded a trinket but the other one also requires wyrms? why
spare otter
curious as to why youre using the primary and vers leg patch
idk i simmed it a while ago and that was the best
starting to feel like it was a mistake lol
empty grove
re sim it. I think frosted fire is deffs better as it goes well with "armoured to the teeth"
maybe vers is better? 🤷♂️
unreal onyx
frosted armor kit is usually my best enchant in sims
olive wraith
Y’all don’t just use stam?
oblique trail
There's no reason however to go Frosted
Fierce will always outvalue the tiny bit of extra armour
unreal onyx
frosted sims best for me
olive wraith
Sims only do damage
unreal onyx
as they are supposed to
olive wraith
It doesn’t do tankyness
unreal onyx
heal issue
olive wraith
Aka stam stonks
clever path
fury needs ignore pain
clever path
why not
oblique trail
That extra bit of damage is basically within variance
empty grove
why would we spend rage on a defensive
oblique trail
Stop cooking
clever path
why would we spend rage on a defensive
dead dps is no dps
olive wraith
Fury is so tanky already though
clever path
olive wraith
Like
empty grove
You think that 131 extra stam is going to stop you from dying indeffinetly?
olive wraith
More stam. Passive damage reduction
clever path
^^
dawn pivot
is it better to precast WW or use it when adds spawn?
unreal onyx
stam isn't dmg reduction
empty grove
^^^
unreal onyx
you just have a bigger health pool
clever path
atleast give us some off gcd shield
empty grove
and again why would you need it when we already are passivley healing ourselfs
empty grove
atleast give us some off gcd shield
engranged regenartion???
olive wraith
You heal more with more stam
empty grove
wow i cant spell this morning
clever path
but attacking to heal when youre dying just feels bad, no?
olive wraith
Fury doesn’t need a rage shield
unreal onyx
You heal more with more stam
you still heal the same %
fallow oracle
man playing fury again and realising its like last season enh
spare otter
bro im an idiot
fallow oracle
with storm rng and reck rng
empty grove
But the total number is more
bro that makes no sense?
olive wraith
That mean 300 heal
unreal onyx
yet stam isn't a dmg reduction
empty grove
no
olive wraith
I didn’t say stam is damage reduction
oblique trail
bro
it is
3% of your max health
Do you think if you have 10 hp out of 100000 you only heal 0.3?
empty grove
tooltip doesnt say it is it wrong?
oblique trail
of course it's max health
unreal onyx
More stam. Passive damage reduction
.
empty grove
okay yes youre right my apologies it is max health :kek:
queen epoch
bloodthirsty build makes fury tank AF
dawn pivot
is it better to precast WW or use it when adds spawn?
fast crest
use it when it will hit something
does anyone else's offhand weapon not show up when you log in
digital bronze
Idk if I’m just dumb, but where do you put SD procs in ST??
Feel like I can almost always ramp-bb-ramp and the proc runs out before I can use early on
Do you just not care about pressing it?
light stump
Best paracausal trinket? Something special I need to consider when simming? ty
dawn pivot
use it when it will hit something
yeah but I can precast it on boss and spend stacks when adds arrive OR cast it on adds (will it do more dmg?)
solid vortex
whats the best 4 button press while tank is trying to position a boss, like you want to wait to put spear down but not just yet, just reck charge odyn and bloodthirst and use the kyrian whenever the boss is not moving anymore
warm crag
put spear down ??
solid vortex
kyrian spear
warm crag
why are you playing spear
solid vortex
some raid bosses in the raid are single target
warm crag
exactly so you play spear against those bosses
solid vortex
warcraftlogs says most of the top 100 warriors use it on certain boss fights figure i get used to using it
oblique trail
what fight requires the boss to move an obscene amount that you play spear on
warm crag
yeah use it in single target spear is shit in comparison to roar in aoe
oblique trail
The fights that you use spear on it's omega easy to stand in it whenever you throw it
And there isn't any movement tied to it
covert blaze
The fights that you use spear on it's omega easy to stand in it whenever you thr...
this
warm crag
isnt spear like 2 bosses only
restive jungle
I was wondering why spear over roar also.
warm crag
volc and smold and nymue
solid vortex
well lets say smolderon, tank pulls, boss moves you know 20 yards
warm crag
if you correctly open smolderon you will be able to correctly throw a spear and stand in it without the tank moving it
you have 2 full gcds before spear even comes out
mild ravine
warm crag
tracking a buff is probably the easiest wa to make yourself no
oblique trail
You can probably find one if you look enough, but there'sn o reason to track it
Otherwise yeah it's easy to make one
solid vortex
im thinking this rotation, charge and bloodthirst, raging blow, get my rage up you know, at this point the boss should be standing still, then reck rampage (build rage from the charge bloodthirst and raging blow at the opener) then after that rampage throw the spear down odyns fury followed by a bloodthirst cause the first bloodthirst hit after reck is a stronger bloodthirst and figure i use the first reck bloodthirst while in the spear right
warm crag
my brother smolderon moves for 2 seconds max which takes less time than reck charging into a ramp into odyns fury
compact knot
if you want to wait to throw spear just reck charge rampage odyns
solid vortex
can you cast hamstring after whirlwind to hamstring multiple targets?
warm crag
ye
compact knot
yed
past pivot
Best paracausal trinket? Something special I need to consider when simming? ty
doomhammer
astral path
crystal summit
it's your profession attire
weak tartan
season of discovey eu when?
solar nebula
Hi guys, how much you are simming on 5 targets with fury? I want to understand how good/bad my gear is
or how much on dungeon slice
dark ice
delicate idol
I got one on nm and one on heroic this week
are you 100% sure on the double greater ember?
I just did normal after heroic and got nothing
past pivot
are you 100% sure on the double greater ember?
Not 100%
oblique trail
Because heroic counts for all the lower difficulties
So if you got on heroic, then no reason to go normal
delicate idol
right, that's what we all assume
but if this man got 2 greaters, then maybe not
unless my greater was worth more or something
oblique trail
You can get 2 greaters if you did it on normal then heroic
oblique trail
But that doesn't increase your chances compared to just doing heroic
fallow oracle
they've got the scaling on the essences just like the loot role surely
delicate idol
trusting blizzard with some arcane blp items was not on my legendary bingo card
oblique trail
No one except Blizzard really knows how everything behind it works, but this is just going off of what they said in a blue post
stable gulch
can some1 tell me the rotation for t31
fallow oracle
i didnt get any lessers from across difficulties at least, got like 4 across the 8 bosses
crystal summit
depends on what you're simming for
unreal onyx
are you 100% sure on the double greater ember?
Yes
crystal summit
but yes, a "standard" sim is patchwerk 5 min
stable gulch
1boss?
unreal onyx
I got 2 greater and one lesser so far
crystal summit
for M+ you can use dslice but also you will want to run multiple sims for patchwerk 4-5 targets in different intervals. 1 min, 1.5 min, 40 seconds
stable gulch
okay ty
crystal summit
harder to have a one size fits all sim for M+. DSlice is decent, but gotta use your brain to understand what you're simming. all dungeons are different. tanks are different. etc
clever path
is fury still easier rotation than arms now days?
or are they pmuch the same
warm crag
w/ 4p you drop it ye
past pivot
4p t31 that is
past pivot
Arms
stable gulch
only wanna play fury
fallen pivot
If I play both arms and fury, what 4pc parts should I prioritize getting? Shoulders/chest/gloves/helm?
past pivot
If I play both arms and fury, what 4pc parts should I prioritize getting? Should...
whatever you can at this stage
topaz dock
We know what wep to use with legendary?
past pivot
Highest ilvl you can get lol that's not a 1hander
stable gulch
when do we cast BT
olive wraith
Every other gcd
covert blaze
We know what wep to use with legendary?
Gorehowl
trail bane
Does anyone know if/when the Ulria spreadsheet will be updated with the legendary? Interested in seeing how fury and arms do with PI/WF
chrome plover
it wont change much
fury is one of the best wft targets and one of the worst pi targets
I doubt it will get updated for that tbh
trail bane
arms could become one of the top PI targets
chrome plover
why would legendary change that
clever path
is fury still easier rotation than arms now days?
or are they pmuch the same
trail bane
about the same i would say
i feel that fury buttons are more exciting to press though
clever path
i just feel more squishy as fury
clever path
i havent played since last season so maybe thats why
chrome plover
arms is definitely a lot squishier
warm crag
arms could become one of the top PI targets
No
trail bane
i did 2.9 mil healing with just bloodthirst on Volcoross this week
empty grove
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dzyHrj53AWJjZRP3ybyBRv in this quick sim its showing to use ramp - bb 3 times before using avatar is there a reason? wouldnt it be better to ramp bb then avatar and continue doing so while spear is up for a little bit
chrome plover
to use the 3stacks of 2set
empty grove
somebody said it stacks though
trail bane
its not to remove stacks
it stacks up to 6
you do it to get both full bleeds from OF
its generally 2 ramps and 2 bbs after OF
empty grove
riiight
trail bane
bleeds gone, ready for you to avatar to get a new OF bleed up
empty grove
riiiight
chrome plover
for dancing blades duration then yeah
empty grove
so you dont overlap the bleeds?
empty grove
right right
trail bane
getting 4 extra seconds of dancing blades is just bonus
modest condor
the important things are not losing OF dot updime and not losing avatar uptime
the apl was written to use avatar when the one from OF drops, but in reality it's ok to use it during the last second
you'll lose some dancing blades uptime but unfortunately that just has to happen because dropping avatar is worse
trail bane
and ofc you want to fit as many BB's into the reck and spear window
if you waited for dancing blades to fall off you would lose all of that
empty grove
so ideally its more optimal to keep the avatar uptime
thick whale
hey randomg question sorry but should i just slam dunk use my ember of fyralath or should i save it
coral tundra
guys quick question what is a good reck uptime? mine is around 45-49%
but i`ve seen some ppl on logs with 65+
just killed volcoros mythic with 180k dps and 45% uptime
keen kindle
hey randomg question sorry but should i just slam dunk use my ember of fyralath ...
Greater or lessar?
thick whale
i have a greater just sitting in my bags
past pivot
hey randomg question sorry but should i just slam dunk use my ember of fyralath ...
It doesn't matter
past pivot
Greater or lessar?
It doesn't matter
mossy fox
but i`ve seen some ppl on logs with 65+
my r1 221k log on volcoross today was 53% reck
keen kindle
It doesn't matter
...why not?
past pivot
...why not?
Why would it?
thick whale
okay it doesn't matter in which direction lol should i save or just use
coral tundra
my r1 221k log on volcoross today was 53% reck
i`m not that off then at least
warm crag
because greaters are bugged
how
keen kindle
how
I thought we had idea if greater actually did anything
and all the commands we had showed they didn't
tacit crag
Is there any blue post that says greaters are bugged? I feel if they did nothing blizzard would have addressed it?
oblique trail
my r1 221k log on volcoross today was 53% reck
I had 54% uptime on Nymue HC and it was only a 98%/rank 247
I don't understand Fury anymore
warm crag
there is no reason to believe that greater ember usage is bugged, the only reason people are using to speculate that they're bugged is that there isnt a console command that increments when you use the greater token while there is one for lesser ones
tacit crag
I had 54% uptime on Nymue HC and it was only a 98%/rank 247
Fight length?
clever belfry
there is no reason to believe that greater ember usage is bugged, the only reaso...
its bugged trust me!!!!
source: the voices
mossy fox
just use your embers wtf
oblique trail
This just felt like a rank 10 to me
warm crag
source: misunderstanding a wowhead post
tacit crag
I meant as in fight length probably affects parse more than reck uptime
warm crag
all my pulls feel like r1 pulls and then i realise that im using an ashkandur offhand
mossy fox
they're your better luck next time tokens, eat them and get more luck for next week
warm crag
unlucky
oblique trail
all my pulls feel like r1 pulls and then i realise that im using an ashkandur of...
you are the only rank1 warrior in my heart
warm crag
real
clever belfry
andaxd weps > spongiewarr weps
oblique trail
andasimp though
clever belfry
gg
oblique trail
not sure about that
warm crag
andaxd stocks are rising
clever belfry
???
lavish grove
warm crag
did you see spongeuwu stocks
mossy fox
source: misunderstanding a wowhead post
i was also told today that changing to group loot increases legendary droprate, then was linked the blue post we all saw
warm crag
i was also told today that changing to group loot increases legendary droprate, ...
hahahahah thats great
mossy fox
people read what they want to read and/or fully misunderstand
warm crag
blue post says group loot -> group loot
oblique trail
any mythic boss on warr
I don't have the Gnarlroot weapon either but I got a myth track from first vault 😎
warm crag
i got 3 lesser blp from mythic so surely i will get legendary soon right
lavish grove
lavish grove
I've got 2
warm crag
noobs at looting
warm crag
check out my sick rogue weapons
mossy fox
i got 3 lesser blp from mythic so surely i will get legendary soon right
yooo same
tacit crag
This just felt like a rank 10 to me
R1 nymue hc fury Warrior had 49% reck uptime.
warm crag
blessing warriors blessed with blp
oblique trail
yeah I'm just obscenely shit at the game
forest owl
anyone got axe yet?
oblique trail
which is why I don't get good rankings
paper bison
quick question, with titan's torment, does that mean you have to space out avatar and odyns or can you press them together?
oblique trail
anyone got axe yet?
yes I got it just now
mossy fox
give me a gorehowl for offhand next week with avoidance please ty
oblique trail
quick question, with titan's torment, does that mean you have to space out avata...
Space them out
paper bison
kk
warm crag
You can press them together but it's not optimal
liar
oblique trail
Since you massively clip the bleed from OF and Dancing Blades, but the bleed is the most important part
paper bison
so I can macro them together?
warm crag
do not do that
paper bison
kk
paper bison
was just checking what i can and cant
modest condor
except avatar + trinket
that sounds like a bad idea
paper bison
shouldnt macro reck and avatar then either?
modest condor
no
paper bison
okay figured lol
warm crag
just dont macro any abiltiies together for the current fury iteration
paper bison
ah okay. do you space those out too now?
warm crag
ideally you reck charge on pull
modest condor
you dont avatar until like 4 seconds after reck
paper bison
gotcha
warm crag
is a reck charge macro even necessary
oblique trail
no
modest condor
unless you also have a seperate bind that doesnt have them macroed i wouldnt use that
warm crag
ok it cuts out having to wait for an auto attack
modest condor
imagine using charge on some random non-elite in a dungeon and it also casts reck
paper bison
lmao
warm crag
im not that much of a maniac
oblique trail
ok it cuts out having to wait for an auto attack
you don't have to wait for an auto attack either way if you macro or not
just reck before charge and you have 90 rage
oblique trail
do you have a cooked reck bind to make it not consistent or what
warm crag
ye, and besides, why not waste as little reck duration before the charge as possible
oblique trail
if you reck + charge, doing it with a macro will give you at most 0.1 or 0.2 seconds more
warm crag
big
modest condor
giga
oblique trail
wow
iron coyote
You dont macro reck with charge, you macro charge with reck. Problem solved
oblique trail
that's a lot of seconds of reck I could use right now to pummel you in my own mind
warm crag
well you dont have it because you cook
oblique trail
FUCK
warm crag
i will now spend the next 5.6 million seconds recklessly
oblique trail
SOMEBODY STOP HIM