fury

[chrome plover]

without execute talents execute is kinda poopy

[formal ravine]

@young swan So are you going to be eating the sock you promised if we drop ravager in 10.2 ?

[halcyon hollow]

if you do hc first, then you wont get one from nhc, vice versa yes - but its the same amount of bad luck protection u get in both cases

[chrome plover]

first fyrakk per week i should have said

[halcyon hollow]

yesterday, some mates got 2 of them, doin nhc first

[wraith wharf]

of the greater ones not the little ones?

[halcyon hollow]

yes, the greater ones

[wraith wharf]

..someone quick carry me through a heroic frank and lets test it

[chrome plover]

what's nhc

normal?

not seen that acronym before

[halcyon hollow]

yes, sry

non heroic 🙂

but as i said, its the same amount of bad luck protection u get i assume

[river reef]

bc youre not a casual

[chrome plover]

I need to do normal still I think we're boosting it on saturday

[chrome plover]

I am a casual

I only did eight +20s, full heroic and 5x mythic yesterday

[river reef]

casually greyparsing amirite?

[chrome plover]

truuue

did you see my car crash?

[river reef]

the what

[chrome plover]

#fury message

[river reef]

are you okay?

[chrome plover]

yes but the duck wasnt

[river reef]

Oh I thought you actually had a car crash

fk off chawie I was worried

[wraith wharf]

they were the duck..

[chrome plover]

worried about me

[river reef]

[chrome plover]

nah i cant drive

rofl

[wraith wharf]

they didnt duck out of the way so they quacked

[chrome plover]

well i can drive but not legally

[river reef]

I mean can just take the tube innit

[chrome plover]

I didnt look both ways before I crossed

[wraith wharf]

it hurt beary much

[chrome plover]

innit...

[river reef]

[warm crag]

@chrome plover you seem knowledgable on how to avoid tank charge deaths on council, how do i avoid this https://clips.twitch.tv/TangibleIcyLocustPunchTrees-yDrAAronY5u5z7b9

[plucky ice]

the bear has dangerous ass cheeks bro killed like 3ppl behind him

[chrome plover]

that was a targeted attack

how did that only kill you

[river reef]

deserved for being low on the dps meter tbh

[restive jungle]

Ight so I’ve swapped to fury lol it’s fun compared to arms

[warm crag]

200k st dps is really good

[chrome plover]

boomie, rogue, dh, dh, bm....

what can you do

[vapid spade]

quick question... which is the best upgrade from nhc to hc set piece? or how can i sim that? (got my KSM token)

[restive jungle]

Got to swap stats lol… I have WAAY to much haste / crit and not enough mast

[chrome plover]

in top gear there's a little + next to gear pieces that you can turn into tier and upgrade

you may need to add crests/flightstones at the top

[warm crag]

it's a bit of a workaround but you can sim a droptimizer for fyrakk

[chrome plover]

to simulate your token/the future

oh that's kinda smart

🤓

[vapid spade]

ok thx 😄

[restive jungle]

What’s everyone’s stat lay out looking like?

[vapid spade]

atm 12% crit, 35% haste, 52% mastery and 18% versa xD

[plucky ice]

25 25 45 15 or something , need more vers

[vapid spade]

5% leech, 5% avoidance and 8% speed xD

[chrome plover]

100 100 100 100

[restive jungle]

Fuuuck lol…

[plucky ice]

10% avoid lol

[restive jungle]

46% haste / 30% crit / 28% mast / 23% vers…..

[restive jungle]

Need to fix mast

[sharp silo]

if im like 70 rage and no bt or slam , should i use WW or just melee?

kinda stupid question 😄

[vapid spade]

i guess ww if its up

[chrome plover]

mine is tragic

[warm crag]

should i get more haste

i think i need more haste

i barely have any energy to mutilate

[restive jungle]

We use slam on ST to dump also right?

[chrome plover]

[warm crag]

to dump ??

[sharp silo]

btw 73 slam cast on 17 WM, is it too much or seems normal? with 317 rampage and 300 bb cast

[restive jungle]

If no rampage / thirst

[chrome plover]

slam doesnt dump

it generates rage

for fury

[restive jungle]

Fuck me im using wrong words haha… didn’t mean dump.

If nothing else to press

[chrome plover]

yeah

[rapid blade]

when going into a pack with reckless and avatar still on CD but odyns fury is ready and your first bloodthirst doesnt enrage you, do you wait until you enrage or do you just pop odyns fury without enrage?

[restive jungle]

Honestly didn’t know it generated either lol

[chrome plover]

depends if you have titans rage or dancing blades

[rapid blade]

2 handers but i got low mastery

[chrome plover]

no the two options below odyns fury

on the talent tree

with TR odyns fury will enrage you, so you dont need to be enraged first

[rapid blade]

oh titanic rage the M+/cleave one

ok i see

[chrome plover]

you can pop it instantly after charge

[rapid blade]

so its only a ST raid thing to be enraged before odyns

[chrome plover]

I use dancing blades for keys more and more, but yes, you only need to enrage before odyns with dancing blades

[clever belfry]

FM dancing

is the way

trust

[chrome plover]

I think you are right

[grizzled shard]

probably a dumb question but how much is too much vers as sims are constantly telling me to drop haste

[silver mantle]

Trust robot

[wraith wharf]

praise robot

[narrow narwhal]

Give money to robot

[proud vessel]

What is the aoe opener now with 4p?

[clever path]

real and tested

[mossy fox]

FM dancing is da wae

titanic nice to have but not that good

anda are you still

[pure echo]

So i'm looking at damage in execute phase during volcross, and I'm starting to believe if you can bloodbath/rampage on repeat it's better damage to do that than execute taking prio just based on the avg cast

wait a second, archi udpated the wowhead guide to put execute below rampage wtf

sneaky bastard

lmao

[plucky ice]

bb is the execute

[pure echo]

like a week ago or so execute was definitely listed above rampage lmao

[vapid spade]

BB is the Way

[pure echo]

yeah BB was above, but execute was listed above rampage

[inner zinc]

How does FM interact with meat cleaver stacks?

[chrome plover]

some people say with AJ you should execute above rampage but idk bb rampage exec seems better anyway

[chrome plover]

it doesnt

[inner zinc]

Oh nice

[chrome plover]

i dont really know if youre asking the right question...

[hardy shuttle]

Fm is just taken because you're losing the automatic enrage to take dancing blades

[clever path]

i mean

ss is just bad with anni

[hardy shuttle]

It's just to get you a guaranteed enrage on pull

[clever path]

skullcraze isnt good on aoe

[paper acorn]

In that case are you dropping SS to take FM?

[abstract hound]

boys, do we upgrade items, or make our embellishments 486?

[pure echo]

bloodcraze? yes it is

[past pivot]

Yes.

[wraith wharf]

id say make embelishments

[pure echo]

in fact i think it's better for M+ than slaughtering strikes

[chrome plover]

sim it

[wraith wharf]

..thats the correct answer

[chrome plover]

i think 4 aspects upgrades are better most of the time

[clever path]

skullcraze u mean for each failed bt crit

[chrome plover]

than 10 embelly ilvls

[clever path]

bt critchance increases

[pure echo]

the name is bloodcraze

[clever path]

oh yeah fuck i mixed them up

[pure echo]

and yeah it's good

[fathom valley]

Anyone gotten the legendayr so far?

[pure echo]

i can't say for sure, but it feels like i get more odyn's fury casts in a dungeon with it

since you know 4 piece BT crits reduce cd by 2.5s

[hardy shuttle]

To take FM you drop blood craze. It's just a higher priority target build with DB. But DB feels really clunky without the FM enrage at the start of a pull

[summer quail]

It resets on crits. Does basically nothing in aoe

[pure echo]

OK tell me why top fury's taking it in M+ then

[spice furnace]

maybe stupid question but, better use Rampage and loose one bloodbath or overcap rage, use bloodbath and then rampage? Same thing in exec range ?

[pure echo]

i wait

[hardy shuttle]

Better to overcap

[clever path]

yes but its not as good on aoe

as it is on st

[hardy shuttle]

BB>everything

[clever path]

because if it crits on primary and it doesnt crit on the rest

the crit chance doesnt get increased obviously

[zenith moat]

does anyone here uses revvez UI? if so, are the dungeon and raid WAs any good?

[mossy fox]

being top rio doesnt mean you always do the right thing or make all the right choices

[chrome plover]

spoken like a true top rio troller

[modern shoal]

Does anyone know anything about Ret paladins and why they would gain nothing from WF totem according to this? https://bloodmallet.com/chart/windfury_totem

[clever path]

crusading strikes

dont work

with wf

or w/e its called

[modest condor]

yeah like this critcake guy never played shockwave in s2

[pure echo]

I don't think bloodcraze/slaughtering matter much tbh

either way

[clever path]

yeah just play fm with db

[pure echo]

slaugthering being 2% ramp per hit, omega meh

half the time i get 1 maybe 2 stacks before ramp

[mossy fox]

exactly

[pure echo]

i wanna play arms in keys but losing shockwave feels troll now

[zenith moat]

this guy also never presses impending victory, that is some real confidence is his healer :kekw:

[pure echo]

plus you can't take like any utility points

[summer rain]

yo, my sims keep telling me to stack mastery and vers, im down to 24% haste and it feels so slow to play outside of BL or wafting procs >.> why sim favor so much mastery vers

[clever path]

plus i cant tank random damage

[modest condor]

[chrome plover]

because they make you do more damage

[mossy fox]

wtf i press impending...

[chrome plover]

robot doesnt care how you feel

[pure echo]

also bt/cshb healing is so good

[modern shoal]

idd, thanks

[wraith wharf]

..meanwhile me whos running second wind because often my group has aoe stuns covered

i've saved myself with it many a times so

[mossy fox]

you can have 2nd wind and aoe stops

[clever path]

wouldn't it be better to wait for rage from anni autoattacks or press ww than to bt and consume a 2p stack?

[inner sonnet]

any idea if the bags from superbloom, if pre-farmed, will drop the quest items for the legendary when one eventually gets it?

[hardy shuttle]

You drop slam damage for the healing talents

[clever path]

even if avatar falls off

bb does much more damage

even when unbuffed

[chrome plover]

modify apl and test it

[glad storm]

Generally this is how I play

[atomic nymph]

Did the whole grind yesterday, didn't try obtaining any bags pre-quest, but i think they're predetermined loot as saving bags and then making people use the 50% rate boost, didn't make me get more than 2 per bag. But the following bags did give me an increased amount.

[pure echo]

OK i see why ppl take bloodcraze in M+. it's a loss in multi target vs slaughtering but its a greater loss in ST vs slaugthering

[glad storm]

Remember in M+ that Shockwave gives rage. On ST, weavev it in.

[summer quail]

Yes, and only those who run titanic take it

[pure echo]

Why would you not run titanic in keys?

[clever path]

how

[hardy shuttle]

This is what I run

[clever path]

same

[pure echo]

i think running dancing would be pretty troll unless you absolutely needed st dam

[hardy shuttle]

Prio target and boss damage

[pure echo]

obv, but still not a great idea

[noble elm]

Maybe if you’re running like 25s

[clever path]

you can never deal too much st in keys

[pure echo]

wish they'd combine the 2 talents, say fuck it

[summer quail]

If you want more st you take db fresh meat. Build owns

[chrome plover]

dont ask me i just work here

[mossy fox]

ST is still criminally underrated in keys

[clever path]

on fort weeks u have dangerous mobs who have to die asap

[pure echo]

What would you drop for fresh meat???

[clever path]

on tyran u have bosses

[clever path]

bloodcraze

[noble elm]

Just run with two dhs and play pure st build mission accomplished

[clever path]

me last season

[pure echo]

or hunters

[clever path]

arms with blunt instruments

and tom

even fatality

[chrome plover]

had a friend enhance playing pure ST with windfury in my key yesterday

feels ethical man

[clever path]

based

fury with wf is massive

[chrome plover]

he just sniped all the prio mobs while me and the demo lock went zugzug

[summer quail]

Simmed myself without wft. 10k less

[clever path]

yep

[chrome plover]

yep

[hardy shuttle]

Biggest time loss in keys is watching 3 aoe specs trying to ST down the last mob since it had twice the hp of everything else. DB value is massive

[clever path]

dancing blades focus in chaos and anni

a lot of auto attack oriented talents

[summer quail]

Poor garms played without wft on smolderon yesterday

[clever path]

cruelty as well

[clever path]

gfury

[wraith wharf]

wtf?

err

wft*?

[hardy shuttle]

Windfury totem

[chrome plover]

wtf?

[wraith wharf]

aah

..sorry uh.. whatchacall it kicked in

[clever belfry]

not arms = no wft
real, true, s2 pilled

[wraith wharf]

brain fart, cant remember the word

[inner sonnet]

ah, good to know, ty

[summer quail]

[wraith wharf]

every time i see OF i think onlyfans.. so theres that

lots of warriors with an OF this season

[clever belfry]

my feet pic OF is popping

[oblique trail]

[mossy fox]

[plucky ice]

OF pays for lege mats, based

[wraith wharf]

if i was smart i would be farming some of the mats i need before i get a drop rather than waiting till it drops

[mossy fox]

farm when you have to

[chrome plover]

I will sleep until it drops

[wraith wharf]

honestly i will probably more into farming it once i get the drop

[chrome plover]

and then I will do the whole grind in one sitting because I have mental issues

[mossy fox]

if you farm in advance you'll get cursed with a drop last week of the patch

[atomic nymph]

Finished the quest and have one of the quest starting items to spare - Unsure if I could use it on someone and that person could save the consumeable item untill they get it themselves? If anyone on EU wants the quest, lmk

[chrome plover]

what quest

[mossy fox]

the quest

[atomic nymph]

Dreamleaf, for the consumeable that gives you 50% boosted rate from superblooms

[chrome plover]

you got the legendary?

[atomic nymph]

Ye

[chrome plover]

pog

gz

[mossy fox]

am i allowed to timeout out of jealousy

[oblique trail]

stop

[prisma hound]

take me with you

[oblique trail]

don't abuse your powers

[plucky ice]

banned

[atomic nymph]

Execute me

[fading geode]

do it

[mossy fox]

lmao

[hardy cargo]

yes

[unreal onyx]

I killed fyrakk nm only so far, hc today. do I still have a chance at leggo from hc?

I got the ember from nm

[tight igloo]

Yes

But not the other way around

[slim pollen]

A worthy sacrifice for the rest of us to allso get it!

[unreal onyx]

so the best thing to do is kill fyrakk nm to get ember

and then with "increased odds" go into hc?

[fading geode]

[chrome plover]

that sounds wrong but i guess so

[tight igloo]

I'm not a mathematician but I'll do that out of irrationality

[modest condor]

the best thing to do is to just go into the raid and clear it and stop caring about minmaxing irrelevant stuff because it will just burn you out

[covert blaze]

Ember works for the following reset I believe

[unreal onyx]

no

[chrome plover]

I just do raid when guild do raid

🤷‍♂️

[modest condor]

understandable have a nice day

[unreal onyx]

what else am I supposed to burn out on then?

[modest condor]

digging

[tight igloo]

Idk if killing normal fyrakk will burn you out then yikes from me personally

Game fun I want play game

[modest condor]

that's not at all what i said but ok

[unreal onyx]

raid is my fav content

I raid whenever I can

[slim pollen]

I'm still not burned out after almost 20 years of this game, minmaxing a puny legendary won't get me that easily!

[mossy fox]

i'll walk into raid tonight, kill hc fyrakk, leggo drops or doesnt drop, come back next week

[clever path]

yeah so this one
actions.single_target+=/bloodthirst,if=(set_bonus.tier30_4pc&action.bloodthirst.crit_pct_current>=95)|(!talent.reckless_abandon&buff.furious_bloodthirst.up&buff.enrage.up&(!dot.gushing_wound.remains|buff.elysian_might.up))
is above
actions.single_target+=/bloodbath,if=set_bonus.tier31_2pc
will try changing it so it doesnt cast bt with 2p see if thats a dps increase

[unreal onyx]

we go agane

[plucky ice]

next week for sure

[clever path]

the only way to do it

[chrome plover]

if do raid will burn out then yikes lol

[clever path]

walk in kill you either get it or u dont

[atomic nymph]

Make sure you relog before you kill Fyrakk though, if you got any embers. /dump C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(2784) had my bad luck protection at 0 until i relogged, even after using the Ember from other bosses.

[pure echo]

so the BT/dancing blades build is only .8% better in ST lmao

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9yFRCpebWMgUUxns5RDyw6

[minor halo]

Meanwhile LFR Andy will get it next week when wing opens and wont know how to craft it or have the gold to craft it

[plucky ice]

true

[pure echo]

I don't think it's really worth going that build in M+. if you're struggling with ST i think fury is the last person to change for a more ST build

[plucky ice]

bro will ask general chat for advise

[fading bane]

Its gonna be some lottery type shit to get it first week/lfr

[hardy shuttle]

LFR Andy can have it, as long as our holy pally doesn't get it before me

[pure echo]

Don't you love when the person who kills boss 1-2 times says "FINALLY"

like bitch. i ran like 16 atals last week for this damn trinket and had to have a guildie trade me

when some rando gets its like 1st/2nd try

[tight igloo]

That's exactly what you said in the context of the conversation but 👌

[modest condor]

yeah because people keep thinking that bloodcraze is bad when it isnt on st

[dire badge]

👌

[modest condor]

👌

[minor halo]

👌

[light stump]

?

[pure echo]

idk still think dancing blades troll in keys. Our st damage isn't terrible with the standard M+ build

[light stump]

This necessary?

[modest condor]

if you're looking for st damage dropping bloodcraze is not good

[chrome plover]

weird it's 3.3% for me

which i'd say is pretty significant

[pure echo]

that's not even the real concern, it's losing titanic rage

[pure echo]

link?

[chrome plover]

titanic rage is kinda just a comfort pick

[chrome plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cfwS93FDCYbmiEhTuSBXHX

[hardy shuttle]

10% bonus odyns damage is like nothing. And the ww stacks+ enrage realistically only save you 2 globals. Ww during charge, then you waste a BT global, and a ww stack refresh after

[tidal kindle]

Fury basically plays like arms now lets be real

[brisk talon]

Truth

[clever path]

real

[pure echo]

slaughtering strikes.

[chrome plover]

?

what about it

[pure echo]

replace slaughterinug with bloodcrze and you see

slaughtering seems to be trash in ST

like hot trash

[chrome plover]

idk still 2.4%

[clever path]

last time i remember simming fm+db was noticeably ahead of tr+bloodcraze

[pure echo]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[chrome plover]

I would say 2.4% is noticeably

[brisk talon]

It plays a little better tho if you manage to get wft

[clever path]

not a hard thing to do

[brisk talon]

Unless you're Garms

[clever path]

arms feels so bad outside of execute phase

cosmetic rage bar

[plucky ice]

we got 2 enhas lmao wft all day

double wtf

wft

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/uN50.gif

[mossy fox]

u ok gfury

[atomic nymph]

I mean, no real way to check, but this value in the picture was 0 until relog.

[clever path]

honestly no clue why in the sims it used bloodthirst instead of waiting for resource to use bb

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/7Xyh.gif

[prisma hound]

still dont know if the big token is buggy, bc only the small ones increased my counter there

[atomic nymph]

Think big token has a different id.

[chrome plover]

at the end of the day they dont really mean anything

you either get it or you dont

[atomic nymph]

As /dump C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(2784) only checks for currency 2784, that's probably the small token. Probably a different number for big one

[urban tapir]

Just use token, kill boss, maybe get axe, Ggs go agane if no drop. lol why the stress over the tokens 😂

[summer quail]

It's ok garms, surely dh gets more benefit from wft coz they get aug buffed 🙂

[prisma hound]

ye possible

[molten relic]

Didn’t they say that dump script was just speculation anyways and no way to confirm if ur actually did anything

[brisk talon]

Delete Aug problem solved

[tidal kindle]

Agree

@clever belfry

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

owo

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/fzVGyMgPAnY.gif

[clever path]

[summer quail]

[clever belfry]

uwu

cosmetic

[brisk talon]

I stole a brand from DHs last night though. Win in my book

[tidal kindle]

Lmk how much fire burns

It's like what

5k self dps?

[oblique trail]

It's genuinely

not noticeable

As Fury you passively heal it up with your leech

[tidal kindle]

Well I have 1m hp

BT heals for 3%

[urban tapir]

I’ve never noticed the signet brand hitting me that hard

[tidal kindle]

So 30k?

[brisk talon]

I only got a chance to use it on tindral prog afterwards and those were like 60 second wipes at best lol

[chrome plover]

yeah it isnt noticeable at all

[modest condor]

oh

[mossy fox]

siggy brand cancels second wind i think

[modest condor]

good edit

[tidal kindle]

📈

[oblique trail]

edit?

what edit

[modest condor]

nothing

[urban tapir]

Signet brand is healer mechanic anyways

[tidal kindle]

Yah I had to edit in the question mark

Happens

[modest condor]

[upper mica]

Man simmin is so weird atm with trinks and crafted gear

[clever path]

isn't it weird that it's not precasting reck if u have reckless abandon

actions.precombat+=/recklessness,if=!talent.reckless_abandon

i changed it to open with reck charge ramp there seems to be no dps difference tho

[slim coral]

[chrome plover]

shaking

and crying

[clever path]

lmao

[tidal kindle]

Surely the big 3 agi get nerfed into proper balance by then

[upper mica]

I have a 470 greatbelt of disruption but it's a DPS loss over my primal greatbelt with shadowflame even when I sim with wrsitguards at a higher level

[radiant coyote]

Im 3 embers deep. Getting it next week for sure

[upper mica]

It's so weird

[brisk talon]

Dh and rogues getting blasted on tues

[tidal kindle]

I've been burned before....

[clever path]

[tidal kindle]

[sullen wagon]

Surely right...

[oblique trail]

This will unironically happen to someone because of silly community perception and unrealistic expectations

[mossy fox]

i pressed f5 on wowhead again, where changes

[radiant coyote]

We are the 5% class this tier, stop resisting

[plucky ice]

[thick nova]

Warrior changes "prot damage increased by 3%" is all that it will say again

[chrome plover]

nah cap

[clever path]

in my 20s i only accept havoc rogue and bm

[modest condor]

@mossy fox do you think liquid not playing triple arms on fyrakk is the reason they lost the race?

[clever path]

nothing else

[tidal kindle]

"DH Rogues (and by virtue shamans), and hunters have all been overperforming. We are nerfing Battle Shout to a 3% ap buff to bring their users in line"

[clever path]

no other lcass can time 20s

[brisk talon]

Rogue did 415k on smolderon but it's actually just the Aug mmhmm

[tidal kindle]

[clever path]

!!!!

[wraith wharf]

[chrome plover]

I Dont believe it when people say they cant get into keys

[mossy fox]

yeah man boss would have died 10 seconds in to p3 if they had triple arms

[clever path]

last season

timed 26 neltharus

couldnt get into a 23

lmao

[oblique trail]

This early in the season it doesn't really happen if you have a lot of score/gear from pushing with guild, but otherwise yeah it can happen

[clever path]

wanted to try some spell reflect dark tech couldnt get into a pug

[chrome plover]

I pugged my 8x 20s yesterday and didnt spend more than 5 mins in a queue

[thick nova]

@chrome plover I literally got declined for a +4 with an io or 1700 at the time

[urban tapir]

this lol

[plucky ice]

[oblique trail]

Like I get instant invited because of my gear and score

[chrome plover]

eh maybe, once prog is done i barely do keys so that could be it

I am 480 with like 2600

and insta invites to +20s

[tidal kindle]

That makes one of us...

[oblique trail]

👴

[urban tapir]

i have no more crests for the week 😢

[oblique trail]

I'm 478 and 2820 score

[tidal kindle]

482 btw

[mossy fox]

falling "behind" early is an easy way to not get invites

[tidal kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1158726164026753044.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[dire badge]

you get the loot invites you deserve

[oblique trail]

wot

how are you 482

actually

[tidal kindle]

🤷‍♂️

[oblique trail]

my normal gloves will make me like

480

[tidal kindle]

M helm from vault

[oblique trail]

if I get HC

[tidal kindle]

Big help

[mossy fox]

i think im 481 after i send upgrades

[tidal kindle]

Saved so many crests

[mossy fox]

but im 479 for now

[brisk talon]

482.00 on the dot after swapping out mythic snake for heroic brand. +4k dps

[chrome plover]

I’ve spent everything but I also int a lot of crests because I want upgrades NOW

[oblique trail]

Some people are just spooned..

[mossy fox]

reclear tonight is gonna be good for me

[urban tapir]

twin

[dire badge]

🥄

[chrome plover]

probably could be 482 if smart

but 480 because not smart

[mossy fox]

im a fake 479 tho

[urban tapir]

😢

[tidal kindle]

I'm just patient with my upgrades

[oblique trail]

I'm just impatient with my upgrades

[fading bane]

im 482 once i send my last few crests

[chrome plover]

yeah… I am not

[fading bane]

but i still got a fucking 483 wep

cringe game

dont drop loot

[mossy fox]

socket gaming

[urban tapir]

how the fk lmao

[oblique trail]

live inside of m+

and get lucky

[fading bane]

i looted the DHT wrists with socket yday

[plucky ice]

441 faking offhand lmao, nothing from raid or m+

[fading bane]

i might ust make shadowflame next week and replace my 476 ally wrists lol

[mossy fox]

ye i made sf boots for that reason

[urban tapir]

i got no sockets the f

[fading bane]

we got the exact same helm, very cute

[tidal kindle]

I didn't send anything first week since lmao first week + I was at a work thing the night we went into mythic
Didn't send anything till after mythic tree week 2
Then didn't send anything till larodar (which we did after nymue)

[oblique trail]

omg same

[tidal kindle]

Week 1/2 was big

[brisk talon]

Might be a socket vault next Tuesday. 900 dps per for me on the sims

[fading bane]

no way

[oblique trail]

triples

[mossy fox]

socket wrists made crafted bracers a lot less appealing

[oblique trail]

meanwhile I just sent crests the moment I got eye, weapon and 60 on the first week for allied wrists xd

I've yet to see a socketed item I can use from m+

[tidal kindle]

Yah I'm prob socket + craft a 486 neck unless I get mythic chest/shoulders or a 489 track neck

[oblique trail]

I might just have to live inside of DHT for a while..

[chilly fractal]

Prob a like 90% chance I craft a ring next week

[brisk talon]

I might craft ring since mine are not great

[mossy fox]

your haste must be massive with those weapons

[oblique trail]

I got 35%

[fading bane]

helm gang

[oblique trail]

unbuffed

xd

[mossy fox]

my sim wants me to throw my ravencrest offhand in the bin

need gorehowl

[oblique trail]

Almost every piece I got

has haste

[tidal kindle]

My sims want me to get smolderon wep offhand

👀

[unreal onyx]

I wish I got any weapon

[upper mica]

Simming is so harsh atm I'm struggling to agree with it haha

[tidal kindle]

Surely we kill tn

[oblique trail]

I believe

🙏

but

[brisk talon]

Smolderon dropped sword but went to ret

[oblique trail]

tonight I get lego sorry

[tidal kindle]

Yah it prob goes to ret

[oblique trail]

so I'll have to overshadow your smolderon

[tidal kindle]

Surely we get 2

[upper mica]

I'm running gorehowl with incandescent LFR

[tidal kindle]

The hero we need but don't want

https://tenor.com/bMrYg.gif

[brisk talon]

I thought for sure I'd be a week 1 looter

Not in the cards

[oblique trail]

even with lego

We wont look good on meters..

wanna see a funny meme from our council kill

[brisk talon]

Hah

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/P9jgpDq.png

[oblique trail]

monaks

[clever belfry]

cant parse if ur rogues int

gg

[oblique trail]

just give it to painapperu

and spongie

[brisk talon]

Our Aug accidentally buffed me on igira and got a r1. Told him there's more where that came from if he wants to continue

[mortal rock]

i miss critcake

i hope he is ok

[chrome plover]

that reminds me of castle nathria

[oblique trail]

it be like that sometimes..

it's okay

we give battle shout to the good classes

we did our job..

[chrome plover]

I was playing venthyr fury below tanks on council in nathria

[mossy fox]

[tidal kindle]

https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/FlaccidArborealPizzaArgieB8-3yyt6u3IN1kztIli?featured=false&filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[chrome plover]

[brisk talon]

What a treasure

[clever path]

i miss ronin

critcake = 0.25revvez

[pallid tinsel]

Wowhead says we want haste around 25%, is that why we run double wafting? I’m currently using Sophic and wafting because my haste unbuffed 41%… am I losing damage because of this?

[clever path]

just sim and trust the robot

if its telling you to run 41% haste

then run 41% haste

[clever belfry]

robot too smort

[chrome plover]

🤖

[clever path]

i have 31% vers and 23% haste

[pallid tinsel]

Roger lol I figured that was the response

[clever belfry]

help

[clever path]

2 wafting and howling runes

[chrome plover]

no thanks

[clever path]

so its more like 27ish

[clever path]

[clever belfry]

we walked out before pulling a singular mob

[brisk talon]

Sims got me using hissing runes now

[left perch]

Anda acting like he timed that on brown player

[tidal kindle]

I was always usinh hissing

[left perch]

Sheesh

[tidal kindle]

[clever belfry]

my brown man

is weak

[tidal kindle]

WHOPA

[clever belfry]

im playing last season trinkets

legit

[chrome plover]

arent tyr and morchie rise bosses and the other two fall?

what's going on

[clever path]

idk that addon is bugged

[clever belfry]

yes

the WA is confused

[clever path]

or wa

[clever belfry]

until u target one

xdd

[chrome plover]

oh

[clever path]

to be fair

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/QLd2.gif

[clever belfry]

it was rise tho

[clever path]

even the group finder is confused

cant really blame it

warpdeplete works fine

[mossy fox]

is this the infamous andasimp?

[chrome plover]

I thought my mind was completely scrambled

im ngl

[clever belfry]

sadly

[mossy fox]

i think 27 rise fort very doable tbh

esp after timer nerf

have fun

[clever belfry]

like 2 people in this group

did this on higher than 20

[mossy fox]

o

gl then

[languid estuary]

That key is ending in tears

Before Battlefield

[tidal kindle]

Kind of wild we don't actually

Fight iridikron

[languid estuary]

wdym sure you do

[tidal kindle]

As a raid

[mossy fox]

gotta save him for next expac

prolly teaming up with void dagger lady innit

[upper mica]

Would you trust sim if it suggests running double shadowflame instead of wristguard?

[tidal kindle]

Hope he doesn't get nzoth'd

[languid estuary]

Iridikron will be like the void, gone but never forgotten

[oblique trail]

[clever path]

[urban tapir]

Prob gonna need a Myth track gorehowl from vault to get rid of the ravenscrest lol

[tidal kindle]

Can't believe Nyalotha the waking city wasn't a whole zone

[brittle phoenix]

2x sflame should be slightly ahead on ST yes

[oblique trail]

why does it keep suggesting earthen writ..

I don't want to enchant it..

[tidal kindle]

Which one is that

Mast proc?

[oblique trail]

it's the blue mast enchant

ye

[urban tapir]

whats your haste?

[dusky pulsar]

yes

[clever path]

mastery

[oblique trail]

35%

xd

before procs

[clever belfry]

ill team up with her

[meager void]

same. earthen + wafting when simming with vers phial

[urban tapir]

hmm mines lower thats prob why it says wafting for me

[chrome plover]

mine says double wafting

[summer quail]

you're swimming in haste so i guess that makes sense

[oblique trail]

I got double wafting

but I'm not dropping wafting for like

600 dps

[rustic latch]

How do I simm with versa phial?

[urban tapir]

I mean if you already have the haste why not take the mastery for extra dps?

[summer quail]

double wafting just feels so good

[oblique trail]

Because wafting is giga expensive

[meager void]

by chosing it?

[fading bane]

dont want to alarm anyone

but

it has just been reported

[languid estuary]

I'm alarmed

[fading bane]

that a saved character got a bad luck protection token

from boosting HC saved

[chrome plover]

ahahahaha

[summer quail]

ahahahhaha

[oblique trail]

this is not real

[summer quail]

oh no

[dusky pulsar]

please

dont

[fading bane]

he already has logs from earlier this week

[chrome plover]

d2 pulling my leg surely

[clever belfry]

nah

nah

nah

nah

nah

[brisk talon]

Back to the mines

[clever belfry]

stop

[upper mica]

Source?

[dusky pulsar]

is it time for me to spam heroic fyrakk

[hardy shuttle]

I've been bouncing between earthen writ and earthen dev on my offhand since hitting 480

[oblique trail]

I refuse

[urban tapir]

even if real i still aint farming that shit lmaooo

[fading bane]

this is you guys

[chrome plover]

real

im doing 28378231238478714 saved hc boosts per week

see you bozos when i get orange stick

quitting my job

[oblique trail]

holy fk nevermind earthen writ is only 300 dps increase

gg never dropping wafting

fk mastery

[fading bane]

im already doing alt raid tonight

and my alt is like 478

[dusky pulsar]

I aint swapping a 10-20k enchant for 200dps, which will probably fix itself later with a better stat distro

[languid estuary]

Is bloodmallet baiting us with bis trinket sims because of the fyr'alath inclusion

[fading bane]

so i dont really need much

maybe i just go warrior

[oblique trail]

do it

[dusky pulsar]

what do you mean?

[oblique trail]

miss 100% of the shots you take

[chrome plover]

do it

[clever path]

dps loss

[languid estuary]

The character profile has fyr'alath

[mossy fox]

me too

[languid estuary]

so the sims are going to be based around it's activation window right?

[dusky pulsar]

Fyralath doesn't really interact with the trinket from Fyrakk

[tardy lark]

you can check the apl for when it activates

[mortal rock]

sorry for ping @mossy fox how do you like fury warrior s3 raiding and did you get legendary axe yet

[oblique trail]

Checked in a sim earlier and it just cranked Fyralath on pull

Before anything else

It might've changed a bit since

[chrome plover]

the active isnt really too impactful anyway

maybe if you slam it when augury procs

it goes sicko mode

[oblique trail]

The active can crit

So if its a bunch of small crits

maybe Augury pops

[dusky pulsar]

Do you guys think it's worth to track the Augury of Primal Flame or the Cataclysm Signet Brand buffs?

[oblique trail]

no

Signet maybe for M+

but it sucks dick there imo

You can't really play around passive proccing trinkets

Because you'll just want to hold your CDs until you see it pop

[upper mica]

We don't use dungeonslice for simming do we? Just change patchwerk to 5 targets if we want multi?

[chrome plover]

I personally just sim single target for everything

works pretty well for fury

simming for m+ has too many variables to ever be good

[urban tapir]

👆

[chrome plover]

so just send a single target sim and use best judgement for trinkets

[upper mica]

Yeah I'm using double activate trinkets atm and I hate it 😦

[clever path]

worst thing imaginable

[fading bane]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/66782552?mode=detailed&zone=35#boss=2708&metric=dps&difficulty=4&partition=1&class=DeathKnight&spec=Frost here is the man that got the blp token on reclear.

[tidal heron]

played mage with double on use for the longest time
never again

[fading bane]

its so joever

[clever path]

augury + might

bis

[oblique trail]

ofc

he's from sabotage

[mossy fox]

i think signet is goated for dungeons where you can consistently keep it at 15 or at least pull boss with 15 stacks

[oblique trail]

@tardy lark

your ugild

is full of rats

[oblique trail]

maybe, but I'd still pick Augury over it if you have the choice

The bit I've tried with mine it has just sucked nutsack even with a good tank

[fading bane]

i will have screenshot soon

[dusky pulsar]

Just use both signet and augury??????

[chrome plover]

[mossy fox]

yours is maybe faulty

[oblique trail]

I got a 463

so maybe

[mossy fox]

mine does like 8-10% ST if i go with max stacks

[languid estuary]

[oblique trail]

Lfr signet player..

[languid estuary]

I won 2 LFR signets last week, thinking that I actually won both I sold one for 50k

I haven't seen any other signets drop

[upper mica]

Might augury is best for multi

Signet better for single if I'm not mistaken

[tidal heron]

couldn't join my guilds HC yesterday, 3 signets dropped 😦

[brisk talon]

Oof

[oblique trail]

I'll give Signet another try in a better dungeon

Throne it kinda fucking sucks in

BRH also kinda

[chrome plover]

meh i dont like it in keys

[tidal kindle]

"Clown" ✅
"Warrior" ✅
"On my guild"

[oblique trail]

I don't either

But it might be better than my Rezans overall

If played around

[summer quail]

seems decent in atal

[upper mica]

Might is definately better in m+ but need to pair with augury

[languid estuary]

Sims are telling me butchers block and mirror are BiS kek

[mossy fox]

i think if your signet is 463 it prolly just sucks compared to your other options benzai

[languid estuary]

Even with every trink at 483

[oblique trail]

well

I got 483 might, rezan and hourglass

so yeah

[mossy fox]

ya your brand is bin tier

[meager void]

MT APL is not properly implemented yet

[oblique trail]

I'm bin tier

[tardy lark]

yes

very

[summer quail]

link sim, really curious about this

[languid estuary]

Will sim it rn

[languid estuary]

This could definitely be why

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dhur9puEbHjvNFnzAs4Fw9

It's gone back to hourglass/mirror but only by 229 dps

[silent gazelle]

Lmao is earthen writ real

this enchant is cheap af

[still swift]

is fury still haste mast

[frosty scroll]

a friend of mine said u can reflect rezans pursuit? is that true?

[hardy shuttle]

That friend is not a friend

[silent gazelle]

find out lmao

[languid estuary]

kek

[mossy fox]

your friend probably wants to see your reaction when rezan eats you

[chrome plover]

hahahah

[frosty scroll]

i fucking knew it

[silent gazelle]

Peanut in pieces AGAIN?

[frosty scroll]

im in shambles

how this could ever happen to me

[brisk talon]

For a good time, pull all the imps before volcoross and get a big reflect in

[quaint stag]

There’s so much we can reflect this season. Anyone know when to cast it on 3rd boss in tides? The flame dot can be reflected but I’ve only done it by chance and not on purpose

[chrome plover]

i see your earthen writ and I announce

double frozen writ

[silent gazelle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/twNbGw1EDagLy6BygVojcc

[late ivy]

best tier piece slots to use?

[chrome plover]

what does frozen writ even do?

versa?

[mossy fox]

he casts it every 6 secs or so

[silent gazelle]

dmg proc

[mossy fox]

when he flame shocks a friend, you'll need to pre-reflect a few seconds after to potentially reflect the next one

[brisk talon]

It's like a direct damage proc, used to be good for aoe

[coarse nest]

Is this kinda how the opener should look?

[chrome plover]

wtf why is that an upgrade

[silent gazelle]

games stupid

[languid estuary]

No

[chrome plover]

nvm you guys are lying to me

as usual

[quaint stag]

Thank you crit, I swear on your stream that you reflected but didn’t see the timings when the weakaura doesn’t actually say you can reflect

[chrome plover]

it's vers proc

[summer quail]

yes

[coarse nest]

That’s just what my sim did that’s why I’m asking

[gilded pawn]

Think spear needs to go after first odyns

[chrome plover]

why did 2 people say damage proc

coordinated trolling me

[summer quail]

noobs

[stark plaza]

Frozen DEVOTION is the damage proc

[unreal onyx]

dmg proc enchant

[still swift]

chawie

why are u like this

[plucky ice]

[languid estuary]

Reck > Charge > Rampage > OF > Spear > BT > Rampage > Avatar/BT > Rampage > Prio?

I'm pretty sure

[chrome plover]

wdym

[coarse nest]

Ok yeah just re quick simmed

Spear after odyn

Idk why the hell it speared after avatar lol

[languid estuary]

It spears after avatar later in the sim

But idk whether to take that as gospel

I just do what the robot says

[meager void]

I would bet this changes if you input options for mast/vers gems and mast or vers enchant on rings

[languid estuary]

And still do 13k less dps

[coarse nest]

Yeah no worries, I’m just trying to learn the new fury haven’t played it since s1

[chrome plover]

it spears after avatar later because it doesnt have avatar up from OF

[coarse nest]

Thanks!

[chrome plover]

it only spears before avatar on opener because OF procs avatar

(for 4 seconds)

[languid estuary]

I honestly thought the bot held avatar for more spear damage

That's all I could assume

[chrome plover]

you utilise the 4s avatar from odyns before natty avatar

but they dont share a cd, so later on you just use natty avatar

and use OF whenever it comes up (25s~ with 4p)

[upper mica]

So signet augury for ST and multi is augury and might for MT?

[meager void]

just to be sure: after opener, you can safely cast ava+reck+spear at the same time without losing dps?

[dull sierra]

yes

[languid estuary]

Oh true yeah, so the bot is always still prioritising the use of spear only when you have avatar buff

[dull sierra]

reck>ava>spear

[languid estuary]

instead of using it willy nilly

[thick nova]

So I have a macro that pops reck/avatar/spear should I be separating that for better openers?

[chrome plover]

yes

[dull sierra]

yes

[meager void]

but after opener, you can go back to lazy one button macro?

[astral path]

I have 40mast 40haste and 17vers

How screwed am I

[chrome plover]

if you wanted to I suppose

[dull sierra]

less haste

[languid estuary]

I just made a pull macro for reck. blood fury, pot and charge lol

[chrome plover]

my stats are worse than all the people who have asked "how screwed they are" today

[dull sierra]

unlesss you get cds with of too

[languid estuary]

and only use it once

[chrome plover]

🤣

[astral path]

It just feels weird to not stack haste maste

[thick nova]

Makes sense Im gonna have to adjust them

[dull sierra]

yea

mast > vers

[meager void]

like if somehow during the course of a fight we get a situation where you have OF Ava Reck Spear all off CD, then you would repeat openner

[coarse nest]

Same I put charge on my reck bind

[chrome plover]

yes

[coarse nest]

Made it easier for my brain

[chrome plover]

and it does happen

[dull sierra]

exactly

it happens a lot tbh

[plush ice]

ah OF usually comes off CD a good couple gcd's before avatar

esp w/ hero

but it tends to not be exactly 30 sec increments, tends to be a hair less

[chrome plover]

what ilvl do wyrms become redundant?

473?

[meager void]

yeah, it seems this happens a lot. Might as well handle it all without the lazy macro

[languid estuary]

476

[dull sierra]

476

[halcyon wyvern]

Anyone else get this weird window when you OF and just can’t rampage before the 3rd BT. Like I just am at 60 rage with no buttons to hit

[chrome plover]

does crafted gear count

[dull sierra]

yes

[chrome plover]

pog it's just my amulet

that will surely drop from brh today

[dull sierra]

i got full 476 yesterday

[meager void]

you fear losing the Furious Bloodthirst stack?

[chrome plover]

I got a champion haste crit neck from tott on day 1 of the patch

and cant get rid of it

[coarse nest]

How many globals do I try to fit in after OF* before hardcasting avatar in the opener? 3 or 4? Depends on haste?

[languid estuary]

I have started making sure I have rage almost capped, rampage, then OF

Idk if this is a dps loss but it means you have rage for all three BT's

[languid estuary]

When the OF burn wears off I believe

It might be dependent on dancing blades now, I'm not sure, I haven't kept up with this discord in a while

[halcyon wyvern]

I guess I could just walk away and charge back eh. It’s either that or stand there waiting for autos. It’s specifically in aoe situations also

[meager void]

im exactly there. Wont upgrade it either because Im waiting for 470 drop

[dull sierra]

i do 4

[halcyon wyvern]

So yeah I fear losing a furious bt stack

[dull sierra]

but it doesnt really matter

[meager void]

it stacks to 6

[chrome plover]

yep same

[languid estuary]

This is something I only just found out today LOL

[coarse nest]

It seems like OF’s avatar duration just barely falls off during my 4th global so I should just yolo send avatar regardless of where the 4th global is time wise?

[halcyon wyvern]

I’m talking about when you send an OF with nothing else.

Not in an opener situation

[meager void]

yesterday for me. And I can confirm as Im tracking it with my personal wa

[dull sierra]

yea it be like that sometimes

[noble elm]

imagine having a neck without haste drop

[clever path]

bis????????

vers???

[languid estuary]

I was just hitting a dummy and realised I still had charges after 3 and I was like "wtf?"

[thick nova]

I have a crit vers neck :S

[chrome plover]

what

[clever path]

FREE VERS???? IN THIS ECONOMY????

2 enchants

if they both procced at the same time

[languid estuary]

PvP gear now BiS in PvE

[chrome plover]

sophic + wafting was so spenny though

feels bad putting frozen writ over it

[clever path]

idk im at 31% vers rn

[chrome plover]

💀

[clever path]

[languid estuary]

I mean, I'm definitely using a 470 verse/mast pvp ring

[meager void]

wait frozen? not earthen. Damn I'ma sim that

[coarse nest]

Bro just equip gear and smash

Warrior owns

[ornate thorn]

Hey, is the Fyrakk's Heart trinket still bugged and benefiting from mastery?

[languid estuary]

Warrior owns? You seen boomies yet?

[coarse nest]

Lul

Ye sec

[dry talon]

anyone who got more charms,do you stack em or you using them at once ?

[languid estuary]

Boomy is absolutely popping off

[coarse nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773030389571649566/1179495114209493134/GABMdumXcAAq3D2.png?ex=6579fd6d&is=6567886d&hm=273cfca900b9c9985b933097ea7fa6cc6f40a1b8f352e725b6996a0b8eb311ef&

I see boomies

[languid estuary]

lmaooo

[clever path]

arms

Is this for boss damage?

[languid estuary]

That's death %

[coarse nest]

Ngl I’m arms gamer but many fury just doesn’t give a shit it stands in whatever and gives fuck all about anything

[clever path]

Deaths lol

Nevermind

[coarse nest]

It’s kinda nice honestly

[languid estuary]

I'm always 3rd highest damage taken

always last man standing

[coarse nest]

Fury just lives bro

[clever path]

i dont understand how can you die as fury

might be due to my 31% vers but still

[languid estuary]

Gives the healers someone to pad

[clever path]

not even

i heal myself

i dont need healers

i depend on no one

[chrome plover]

I did 90k hps on a trash pack yesterday

😎

[languid estuary]

lmao

Gotta stand in fire on HC Larodar just to feel something

[ember apex]

having impending rush baseline is poggers

[clever path]

askchually its not baseline! 🤓

[ember apex]

stand down

[clever path]

[chrome plover]

cursed

[plush ice]

does the timewalking quest give LFR gear or normal gear?

[chrome plover]

no los rezan setup

[clever path]

normal

[languid estuary]

IS this for throne

[ember apex]

i did a pug AD yesterday w/ 2 shamans

[clever path]

nah i dont run zerk rage

why would u need it for throne

just los