fury

[topaz dock]

Branch for mirror?

[chrome plover]

augury slams so hard

I didnt like branch but i think its good yeah

[split coyote]

atm I'm using Signet+Crab. Don't have augury or might

[topaz dock]

Mirror is 483 branch is only 476

[restive peak]

No augury yet sadly...we've seen zero drop

[topaz dock]

Got Crab and Branch currently

[restive peak]

Need crab bad

[tacit crag]

Is augury bugged in sims? Everyone I hear from says it does way more than what sims say it should.

[restive peak]

Think that's the play to farm

[oblique trail]

I passed up a crab

Thinking it was doodoo

[split coyote]

uptime is pretty nice

[oblique trail]

Was not aware it's uptime was omega high

[tacit crag]

Got one today in normal pug

[chrome plover]

ok this is a god comp

[sullen dove]

triple melee

[oblique trail]

I've only played triple melee

very fun time

[sullen dove]

last boss rise...

[oblique trail]

actually

[topaz dock]

Hmm Mirror sims higher than branch, interesting

[oblique trail]

Rise is the one dungeon we've had a substitute warlock

[tacit crag]

Just move 4head

[oblique trail]

otherwise it's just been me, a rogue and dh

[sullen dove]

5 chain priority list

"if x and y get picked, x move out, if y and z get picked, z move out, if x and z... "

or idk you like stack or something

i think thats a thing

[oblique trail]

sorry if I get orbs while I'm in coolies

[sullen dove]

but idk how it owkrs

[oblique trail]

I'm walking otu

[tacit crag]

Mirror sims low for me when mastery isn't highest. When it is, it beats like everything. Beats 483 trinkets at 473 and stuff. Wild

[noble elm]

I’ve found this to be the case once mastery overtook haste for me

[oblique trail]

just like how I wont battle shout for my assa rogue who does twice my dps in burst if I'm in my coolies

[sullen dove]

correct

[noble elm]

Makes sense tho mirror is basically puzzle box: the sequel

[topaz dock]

Only have 40% mastery

[shell jackal]

copped 3/9M tonight with the guild, but the other fury warrior was outdpsing me and he had a lot less vers/mast. same builds.

think i gotta do log diving

[obsidian jackal]

is it safe to use the embers now?

[clear crescent]

should we do lfr for lesser embers?

[rotund steppe]

is it worth to run multi target in council?

[rotund steppe]

only drop in hc and mythic

[obsidian jackal]

i just did a raid with other furys and i went single target

i was lost compared to the cleave

maybe i was doing things wrong but idk

[clear crescent]

ok killed 8 bosses hc 0 dropp 😄

[inner zinc]

I know with the 2p t31 we wanna turn as many as those buffed BT's into BB's and its pretty easy when reck is up, but am I supposed to go out of my way to ensure it happens or dont worry too much when Reck is down?? I generally am able to use 2 out of 3 buffs on BB and not BT's outside of reck.

[rotund steppe]

that stops happening as much with 4p

[analog marlin]

Hello

I just killed Fyrakk and he drop me some embers at me that in principle increases the % of the legendary drop. Does anyone know how much that drop goes up?

[past pivot]

no

[glass quarry]

guys

do we use the ones we dropped?

[edgy widget]

na, they're nice decorative pieces

[past pivot]

No, you trade to the DHs to help their DPS

[edgy widget]

you should just keep them in your bank forever, you know, for nostalgia

[inner zinc]

make a necklace

[edgy widget]

true warriors get their legendary on hardmode, without any BLP

[sour elbow]

True meat move right there

[junior gale]

Based Archi

[sour elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-meat-tornado-ron-swanson-gif-11141462

[rustic sparrow]

Spear or DR?

[past pivot]

Depends what you're doing.

[rustic sparrow]

Lets say Nymue w/ 4 piece

[chrome plover]

yes

bear should be tanked on 1 of them

and cleave

[chrome plover]

I run spear on pure single target bosses like nymue

[edgy widget]

Spear is slightly better, how much you care is ofc up to you

[unique phoenix]

Is there any reason we should be using a 2 hander and a 1 hander at the same time for fury? My current sim makes me feel like a maniac.

[rustic sparrow]

I just feel like with the increased uptime, the 15% extra bleed damage should be better

or am i nuts?

[chrome plover]

1h is just less stats and weapon dps

so will be worse than a 2h

im sure there is a point (probably like 50 ilvls) where a 1h can win

[oblique trail]

Its not better than the crit bonus during your CDs

[unique phoenix]

But it sims higher, I feel insane! Granted it's the Fyrakk 1 hander axe at 476 vs a 463 2 hander

[oblique trail]

If you want to be optimal, pick spear for nymue, roar if you want to do a bit less damage but less to think about

[topaz dock]

I dont know how, but sometimes i double press rampage, rofl.

[olive wraith]

That’s very not good

[viscid vessel]

i just got 2nd greater ember this week???

from nm first hc 2nd

[hollow ridge]

real?

[past pivot]

YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS ?!?

[viscid vessel]

no idea

[past pivot]

Probably nothing but let's hope not

[strong aspen]

guys, any warrior using the mirror trinket?

[past pivot]

Um, lots

[strong aspen]

not a single 1 on raider.io tops xD

[viscid vessel]

probably that i get leggo next week please

[past pivot]

Because it's 3-minute cd keeps it from bis list. But it's still very very good.

[strong aspen]

Its because i can take it from vault and dk what to do

[strong aspen]

but for example is better to wear other easy getting trinkets like rezan + ocean

i think

[broken rock]

Can we use Greater emblem of fyr alath or it is bugged or something?

[chrome plover]

u can use it

[chrome plover]

yes

[past pivot]

Bugged? Like how?

[broken rock]

Idk i read that it could not count yet, maybe it was misinformation

Thats why i was asking

[gritty sigil]

tryna sim for 1H build just for chuckles, but its grayed out. how do i select the one handers?

[chrome plover]

there's a tick box for items "not meant for your spec" or something

i think

[gritty sigil]

ok ill look for thatt ty!

[dark flower]

How are some people avoiding spear damage on mythic igira? Was looking at Gajeel's log earlier and the dude is standing right on top of them and takes no damage lol

Can we reflect the dam now or something?

[heavy folio]

i sim ST 196k in arms but fury is like -15k less kek, dont have a 2nd high ilvl 2h but still feels bad

[sinful spoke]

chat i recommend making a bdk for tanking keys and raid

its so fun

as an alt ofc

never betray warrior

[left perch]

^ do not do that

[chrome plover]

(do whatever you want)

[modern void]

@edgy widget did you get any feedback or confirmation on the greater essences working? (info from the macro on wowhead you posted etc)

[steep saffron]

can anyone share race sims for advanced raid bots?

[past pivot]

search goblin or something and you'll find it

[remote flower]

so I've organized my buttons and tried both tellmewhen and hekili on rotation help.
Raidbots sims me doing at about 90k, but I can't break over 60k and it has me a little frustrated that I am trying to do better but I don't know what I'm doing wrong

[past pivot]

What ilvl?

[remote flower]

447

I changed some things on raidbots to not count pots/phials/etc and it's saying I should be in the 70k range

[digital bronze]

Gang any here done m nymue

[past pivot]

I'd suggest keep grinding away and working on better gear and learning the rotation. It'll come.

[zinc merlin]

there it is boys

[digital bronze]

Is it possible to stand in spear on that boss

[frail trout]

Bigger bloodsurge number good

[digital bronze]

Huge

[hollow ridge]

grats

[past pivot]

Big grats

[olive wraith]

[past pivot]

NA or EU?

[zinc merlin]

na

[olive wraith]

Now go get a 2nd

[steep saffron]

thx

[plucky briar]

Grats man

[dark flower]

Yuh

[digital bronze]

Do you just not move to soak if in spear then? Or just sack it

[dark flower]

GL with the crafting cost bro, but gz!

[digital bronze]

Also thinking the mythic add makes you run around a lot right

[dark flower]

Idc about my parse because I don't get one if boss doesn't die, so I'd rather soak

[keen kindle]

fucking MASSIVE

[digital bronze]

Well that’s why I’m wondering if I just play roar

[keen kindle]

My guy is gonna POP OFF

[digital bronze]

So you do dam anyway, even if slightly less than max, and don’t worry about moving / not moving

[dark flower]

But if you're someone who only cares about parsing you could probably just sit in it. I never have issues staying in it tho, so your rotation may need adjusted

[digital bronze]

Haven’t pulled it yet fwiw, prepping for tomorrow

[dark flower]

Only time it's ever really sketch is the recast for tree add

but it's doable

[past oriole]

do our stats weight change depending on ilvl?

[dark flower]

[scarlet pewter]

Gratz dude

[digital bronze]

Ty, will test it out for a few pulls and swap if I fail it

[compact knot]

it changes on any small detail you make

[past pivot]

Stat weights? We don't pay attention to them ever. We sim

[compact knot]

only use stat weights for gems/enchants/consums

is my philosophy

[hardy spindle]

I’m doing higher keys now into 20s and is it just me or does our overall seem like garbage compared to others?

[compact knot]

compared to others yes

but our priority damage and boss damage is one of the higher ones

[hardy spindle]

Yeah for sure. Our St is perfect

[dark flower]

You should be fine I wouldn't worry too much about it

Worst case check lorrgs and see what most people run

[dull river]

not full level just yet, but while leveling is there a reason to have the talents that increase the damage of slam? should I be using slam more often instead of pooling rage for rampage?

[compact knot]

id be using a full raging blow build

and never pressing slam once

[gritty sigil]

1H single target build puts me from 188k to 179k dps. is it worth the santa mog with the trade vendor one hander coming next month o3o

i say yes :^)

[olive wraith]

You do you

[gritty sigil]

im so far down on the meters no1 will notice anyways :^)

[olive wraith]

Go get the fyrak 1h

And I think WM has a proc 1h

[gritty sigil]

haha yeah the fryak one actually sims 300 dps higher

oh wow

i didnt see that

ill go sim that thnx

oh wait it doesnt give secondary stats

interesting

[shell jackal]

mother of god

won the volocross shoulders that dropped

[gritty sigil]

nice 🙂

[fringe vale]

speed

[shell jackal]

3 / 4pc is myth tier now. soon™

[proud basin]

what trinket combo should I run for keys between ocean/brand/rezan's?

[shell jackal]

sims told me i should use butcher's block + signet brand over serpent idol / rezans. for dungeon slice, that is

so no clue

[frank dawn]

Sim probably doesn’t drop brand stacks in d slice. Which is obviously the correct choice in that case, but still pretty easy to lose stacks occasionally

[shell jackal]

yeah true

i mean ideally i get my hands on heroic augury from my vault next week

surely

[proud basin]

yeah, I'm wondering how good brand is if it's dropping stacks

I'm leaning towards ocean/rezans so I don't have to worry about it

[gritty sigil]

my brand was not doing so hot. running branch and crab has been working well for me. better than oceans or rezans or signet

[proud crown]

I run signet this week

Spiteful good at keeping combat

[frank dawn]

Yo speaking of spiteful. Do they seem way faster to anyone else lol

[proud crown]

but fk THOT, too much walking

[frank dawn]

I swear they didn’t move this fast last season

[proud crown]

I've just been cleaving Hamstrings all day

[shell jackal]

^

[frank dawn]

Yeh def been hitting that

[shell jackal]

meat cleaver hamstrings feel so good. so does blowing all the spitefuls up

has anyone tried prot warr, fury warr, arms warr, aug, healer yet

[proud crown]

lost to a warlock in WM with 11% spiteful dmg

[shell jackal]

i wonder how fat that would be

[olive wraith]

Holy cleaving hamstring

That’s genius

[shell jackal]

me (left) vs the fury in our group on gnarlroot (right) - should i consider dropping some mastery/vers in favour of haste/crit at this point already?

i felt like i had another week of not worrying about caps DRing but he outperformed me. it could also be rotational, he has way more casts of BB/BT/rampage than I do, and more damage on all 3.

i gotta go to bed but i'd love to wake up to some suggestions from the boys, i'd like to beat them next week

[olive wraith]

Trust robot

[warm crag]

simulate yourself immediately

[arctic raft]

if he has way more casts per fight then its probably rotational

[olive wraith]

Like are you just blindly stacking mast/ vers?

[primal bane]

If he has way more special attack than you must be an uptime/rotation issue

[compact knot]

sim a stat weights

[primal bane]

Link logs

[shell jackal]

No I'm doing the Sims & the Sims are saying mast enchants, Vers/mast gems

So that's what I do

[olive wraith]

Then you’re fine gearing wise

[clever belfry]

bro is 31 IV

[olive wraith]

Linking logs like toosick is saying would get a better story

[meager gyro]

Oh your buddy sims for more, you didn't log a raid to compare

[clever belfry]

Modest nature

[olive wraith]

He had sona q aura

[compact knot]

other guy has too much rit

crit

[olive wraith]

Other guy might have Aug

[shell jackal]

I'll link them in about 7-8 hours from now gamers, thank you for the help

[olive wraith]

We don’t know the full story

[primal bane]

Idk what 31 IV means

[olive wraith]

252 ev too probably

[primal bane]

Huh?🤔

[compact knot]

@shell jackal are you looking at the volcross kill where you died

[ember island]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values

[compact knot]

oh gnarl

[primal bane]

Ah okay

[summer quail]

intravenous

[sullen dove]

cringe

[summer quail]

gz on your very good trinket 🙂

[night stone]

catch up thing from fyrakk confirmed to not be bugged anymore?

[restive peak]

We don't even know it ever was bugged lol

They posted about it so it's most likely safe to send it, and if it went wrong, I'm sure they'll fix that

[left perch]

sir this is not transmog

[sullen dove]

funy tmog

[left perch]

mods r gonna ban you

[sullen dove]

mf shovel wielding

[sullen tendon]

should i use execute over BB ?

[sullen dove]

uh pretty sure no

[sullen tendon]

feels like im missing a lot of BB during execute when i actually use execute

[restive peak]

My xmog is #1

[sullen dove]

unless somehow your like tracking ashen is about to fall off at 5 stacks then maybe but bb def big more dam

[restive peak]

I'll show it post raid

[ruby bolt]

omg it's bad... it's called spear of bastion not spear of mud...

[fast mural]

i like it

i dont want to be reminded of bastion

[normal yoke]

Assume RA buff is not up, BT is off CD, in Execute range, and current rage is enough that hitting execute will overcap rage. Even though Execute is a the larger single hit, it's better to Ramp > BB, yeah?

[fast crest]

did they fix mirror trinket vs ozumat

[rotund steppe]

so how u guys manage orbs in smoldy?

like with cds and all

[summer quail]

i go to 2nd circle and pick them up as late as possible

[tardy lark]

You walk out a little right before the kickback so they are dropped far. Then don’t pick them up until the reach second circle and you’ll have 4-8 seconds of overlap with cooldowns depending on spawn pattern

[rotund steppe]

so u use cds on pull

[summer quail]

yes

[rotund steppe]

also

2nd circlel b4 or after push?

[deep sapphire]

Anyone here get the Leggo yet?

[rotund steppe]

answer meeee

im desperate ;_;

[summer quail]

before push, then pick them up basically as they hit the first circle

[rotund steppe]

kk

ty <3

[fossil swallow]

Is is normal to generally not have OF and Reck line up after the initial use?

[covert coyote]

Yeah, OF will be like 25 sec CD maybe depending on rng

[tepid scroll]

Think I have a little too much haste atm

Just been grabbing tier I get and ilvl upgrades

[molten folio]

what emblishments do we want as fury back and bracers?>

[tepid scroll]

Back and bracers with shadowflame is what I did

[molten folio]

the vers bracers?

[tepid scroll]

Nah I crafted haste mastery

[molten folio]

also 38% haste isnt bad

[tepid scroll]

I thought starts to DR hard at like 30

[molten folio]

that i dont know

[tepid scroll]

So optimal split would be more 30%haste and more mastery

[molten folio]

damn then i gotta get mine down

[crude gate]

someone put in here yesterday that earthen devotion was simming higher for them than other enchants. how is this possible when the str from the armor buff is less than what sophic gives you?

[molten folio]

thought we wanted wafing

[crude gate]

generally its wafting or sophic or 1 of each, depends on sim. but someone shared their sim with earthen being 700 dps ahead of the others. i wanna know if thats accurate

[maiden sphinx]

ima cri

[rancid ermine]

Do we use the lesser and greater embers as soon as we get them or are they saved? No one has said on the Blizz post or comments

[crude gate]

yeah once you get them

will buff chance going into the next week

[rancid ermine]

Ok. Got two greaters and a lesser tgis week

[merry arch]

Mates good luck on your leggy !

[rancid ermine]

Same

[molten folio]

I used mine and will be doing heroic tonight hopefully getting a kill

and its personal loot isnt it?

[high basin]

yes

[keen kindle]

Better then spores at least

[rancid ermine]

Yes it is unless on mythic. Then group

[keen kindle]

Na

Mythic just has a chance for it to drop as group loot in ADDITION to the Bad luck prot system

[olive wraith]

We don’t want specific number of any stat. No caps, no soft cap, no breakpoints or any other thing

Just sim and let robot do its magic

[glad storm]

What's the consensus on signant brand in M+?

[spare otter]

it's good imo but there are better options

[warm crag]

its mostly shit unless your tank chainpulls like crazy

i guess its nicer this week

[tepid scroll]

Any good WA to track t31? like a rage meter with abils above it?

but more twoards t31 than other tiers?

[warm crag]

what exactly do you want to track

[tepid scroll]

Ava reck tr OF

then rampage blood thirst

slam

[hidden kite]

?

[half cargo]

What you’re looking for is a generic class weakaura

Your options are Luxthos, Afenar, Publik, or the countless ones offered by streamers

Or any of the random ones in wago. Try them out and pick the one that works for you

[olive wraith]

Luxthos is pretty good

Use it for other class alts too

[runic otter]

Has anyone gotten axe drop this week?

[young swan]

#fury message

[dense elbow]

I am happy for him. Bitter, but happy

[proud crown]

I wish it was good :( finally a proc you can feel

[crisp bronze]

i cant wait for this tier to be over week into the new play style and i despise it.

[brittle crow]

damn L

this is the most fun ive had with fury in like 2 yrs

[main inlet]

good evening, a question guys what % of statistics should I take in raid, I'm a little lost

[young swan]

u say that like we arent gonna be playing it during fated

[crisp bronze]

i really enjoyed the t30 playstyle t31 just feels so bad

[summer quail]

i don't think it's bad, worse than before in m+ for sure. but feels good in raid imo

[brittle crow]

t30 is just ramp rb rb ramp rb rb

YAWN

[summer quail]

it's nice having execute damage as fury

[dense elbow]

It do feel nice, tho I wish it was doing damage

[rotund steppe]

idk

people say its bad

[spare otter]

i really like this playstyle

[brittle crow]

now i have to actually take notice of how much rage i have, actually decide which button to press on a given gcd, and i get to press odyns a lot

[spare otter]

even for m+ its fun af

[brittle crow]

odyns go brrrr

[rotund steppe]

but my 700k bbs executes say otherwise

[naive swallow]

where's the vendor for 2k tier piece ?

[young swan]

the rest is fine but u definitely dont care about ur rage bar

u cared more about it last tier

[dense elbow]

FP next to the raid

[main inlet]

good evening, a question guys what % of statistics should I take in raid, I'm a little lost

[brittle crow]

pressing ramp at 80 rage guarantees you'll empty gcd sooner than later

[edgy widget]

100% of statistics

[brittle crow]

u pool rage

[young swan]

u just dont press ramp unless ur about to cap

or u dont have enrage

dont really have to pay attention

[brittle crow]

that's more than last tier

[young swan]

at best its the same as last tier

[brittle crow]

last tier i literally just mash ramp rb because rb was infinite and enrage was infinite

[summer quail]

in exe you will cap as well

[brittle crow]

yea in exe were back to brainless mostly

but that's ok

it's fun to be brainless sometimes

[tepid scroll]

Bloodthirst procs / bloodthirst in general are highest prio now yeah?

So BT rampage BT

after opener

[brittle crow]

depends

anything takes prio over ramp Unless you're about to overcap OR unless you have tier stacks

if tier stacks u always ramp so u can press bloodbath with tier

[tepid scroll]

tier stacks?

ohh yeah

for the 3 crits?

[brittle crow]

yea ur tier when u odyns u get 3 fat bloodthirst

[tepid scroll]

So you ramp before so they are juice?

[brittle crow]

u always want to use them on bloodbath if possible

yea

[rotund steppe]

tbh that happens automatically

[brittle crow]

though if you're not about to overcap you can afford to hold it

[tepid scroll]

Hekili seems to play t31 pretty solid

[rotund steppe]

as long u have 90+ rage u are good

[tepid scroll]

for learning the changes

[main inlet]

I mean, I understand that currently with the 4 pieces the statistics are going to: strength cele mastery critical and verza, but I don't know what % you recommend I take, can someone help me with this question?

[tepid scroll]

t30 is so ingrained in my brain

[brittle crow]

like if ur at 80 rage with a tier stack, i believe the right play is to still press slam or execute

then ramp bb

but that's a microoptimization

[rotund steppe]

yall run aoe or ST in tindral?

[brittle crow]

i run aoe but it's prob wrong to

[dense elbow]

The more stats shift on your char, the different is the values you want to have. You need to sim your character regularly to find out what you should use in your bags

[brittle crow]

roots dont last long

aoe good for pad tho

[modest condor]

hekili uses the simcraft apl so yeah

[brittle crow]

but hekili shrinks your brain to walnut size

[tepid scroll]

We play warrior

we are already walnut size

[spark maple]

Who excited for SoD

[brittle crow]

but some walnuts are healthier than others

[brittle crow]

the fact that i read this as sanctum of domination should tell u how i feel

[crisp bronze]

warrior leveling will be fun with victory rush heal in sod

[brittle crow]

0 interest but it's cool

[modest condor]

sanctum of domination was last expac Kappa

[spark maple]

HAHAHAHA

-.-

[brittle crow]

omg twinning

[young swan]

did u guys know

[brittle crow]

besties

[young swan]

theres a warrior discord for classic

crazy

go there

[modest condor]

you know how hard it is for me to not mention sanctum every time my guild talks about sod

[brittle crow]

i think about sanctum a lot

[spark maple]

Hey guys did you know.. 🤓☝️

[brittle crow]

i want to go back and loot garroshs ashes and put them in my bank

[modest condor]

tfw never got mythic ows

[dense elbow]

SoD isn't sanctum?

Season of discovery, that took me way too long

[summer quail]

yee whenever anyone mentions SoD i just think of sanctum, takes me a few minutes each time

[proud crown]

domination sockets

[modest condor]

i was gonna give it a try just to see how long i'd last but then my guild decided to go on a pvp realm so i was like nvm

[summer quail]

gonna play warlock tank

[modest condor]

i would probably only have played for 1 day anyway and then just gone back to retail

[summer quail]

yee most likely i won't play that long, always end up quitting classixc

classic

[left perch]

classic

[crisp bronze]

server launches are always worth being apart of imo

[tepid scroll]

Just got the first greater drop chance of the tier from normal, can I get another from heroic or have a chance at it?

Or is it just 1 lego chance per week

[naive swallow]

do i have to do the emerald dream questline to unlock the tier set npc

or just chapter 1 , getting into the zone automatically unlocks?

[keen kindle]

For AoTC/KSM?

[restive peak]

Anyone for a mythic smolder macro for the safe rings with the rings like echo and them had, or that not out yet?

got a *

[warm crag]

what

do you want a macro or a weakaura

[buoyant salmon]

wdym

[rich void]

update for those who were wondering I did a normal fyrakk kill and got a greatter essence, just killed heroic and got another greater essence

[warm crag]

have you used either

[rich void]

used both

[warm crag]

hmmge

[plucky wedge]

Any of the class discords summarised all the information on the legendary dropping?

[blissful kestrel]

Legendary = bigger zug zug

[sullen dove]

funny number

[warm lark]

leech socket belt

[olive wraith]

Oh nice

[spare otter]

hmmmm

should i upgrade my rezans to 489

or just wait for a chance for augury?

[modest condor]

if you're limited on aspect and havent killed heroic fyrakk yet this week i would wait and hope for augury

otherwise upgrade rezan

[spare otter]

yea i got 105 aspects atm

i just don't know if guild will prio me getting augury since i got 2 483 trinkets

but we'll see

[silk wharf]

I would upgrade all but the lowest of budget armor pieces before any trinket.

[summer quail]

if you're doing mythic as well as heroic hold on to 60 aspects in case of a mythic weapon and augury hc

[spare otter]

yea ig i'll hold

[rotund steppe]

i have 0 cuz i never get them (gear, i have crests)

[summer quail]

calc you farming low keys?

[rotund steppe]

nah talking bout gear

[subtle lagoon]

inb4 not getting myth weapon and augury until last few weeks of the season

[rotund steppe]

i have crests but im using them to upgrade stuff

[restive peak]

Like the rings during intermission, I found a voice 1 though we gucci xD

We proggin, fight is a shitshow

[buoyant salmon]

oh yeah i deleted that one

it got annoyingand i memorised the pattersn anyway

[lavish sage]

what should i upgrade

[young swan]

trinkets

[lavish sage]

signet is maxed normal

augury ill upgrade to max

[pallid barn]

Dunno about yours but our guild has augury prio to dhs

[ashen socket]

Quack

[lavish sage]

gz

[ashen socket]

There should be a parse for longest duck time

[naive swallow]

how do i turn crest into enchanted crest now?https://gyazo.com/fe9c4da40ee79178d0e1dfdd760a61aa

[olive wraith]

Quack

[lavish sage]

enchanting vendor

[olive wraith]

Enchanting vendor sells the component

Ah beat me

[granite sapphire]

Raid question for Smolderon, hope that's cool: How does lava geyser (fire bait) choose players, is it any player that didn't have the most recent overheated/tornado circles? or is it truly random?

[naive swallow]

ok , thanks

[lavish sage]

random

[naive swallow]

is haste effect leggings the best piece to craft if im mainly doing M+

im deciding between 2 hand vs haste leg

[olive wraith]

You don’t want to craft wep

[naive swallow]

tru

[olive wraith]

Haste legs are a little misleading

[naive swallow]

im mainly doing 20 21 22s

[olive wraith]

If you’re not chain pulling they’re bad

The longer a mob lives the worse the pants are

So the higher keys you go the worse it becomes I think

In general

[naive swallow]

i guess its better for test of might arms than fury even , in a sense

[olive wraith]

I mean allied wrists are good

And lariat is good once you have sockets

[naive swallow]

the rez wrist u meant?

[olive wraith]

No the vers emb

[naive swallow]

oh

[olive wraith]

Plus shadowflame patch isn’t all that bad even if you’re only doing m+. It’ll just up your prio/st damage

[naive swallow]

tho frankly we kinda need some st here and there this tier imo

[sullen dove]

2 pulls into council i already want to not exist

this boss is so shit

[naive swallow]

ehh id say , more balacing might be needed in the first place

been doing some keys with some purple class / green class

[willow cradle]

I'm being a menace by playing the Quack Soundboard while progging this fight lmao

[naive swallow]

and the overalls are N~o~T even close

[willow cradle]

also grats

[olive wraith]

What you talking bout

Our st is our strong point this tier lol

[swift basin]

Question for all you pro Furry warriors out there. Just got my 4 set and I was wondering the following;
Going into a pack of mobs without enrage up, is the play to enter enrage before pressing Odyn's Fury? or just send it and press Odyn's Fury?

[olive wraith]

Enrage first

Are you using titanic rage on OF?

[swift basin]

yeh

[olive wraith]

That enrages you

So you’re Gucci

[swift basin]

i seen that, but was sure if it enrages pre OF or post OF

[olive wraith]

Pre

[swift basin]

oh thanks mate

ok, that helps a lot

cheers

[shadow osprey]

does bloodcraze work on upgraded bloodthirst

[sullen dove]

ya

[coarse nest]

any macro wizards know if i can do a @cursor and [known:] in the same macro? id like to combine spear and roar so i dont have to keep replacing them between raid and keys

[sullen dove]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion,@cursor] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

[coarse nest]

thanks swordish you own!

[sullen dove]

[proven rock]

has anyone else noticed weird ddamge numbers with execute?

[silent gazelle]

i forgot blue silken exists

that shit goes hard

[proven rock]

my slams are hitting harder than execute rn

slam for context

[modest condor]

execute hits twice per cast

so the average damage per hit may be lower but the damage per cast is higher

[proven rock]

i was worried it might be related to switching to SMF

[sullen dove]

[north edge]

man my stats are so fucked

haste wayy to high and mastery too low

[sullen dove]

i mean... it also kinda looks like youre 440

but yea if you can find more mast pieces thats big good

haste is "ok"

[north edge]

474

[sullen dove]

idk maybe desensitized with runes and flasks

[north edge]

the tier set has so much haste pieces

[compact knot]

the boots

[topaz trellis]

Does that offhand have mastery?

[compact knot]

boots jumpscare

[compact knot]

springs keeper, its high mastery low haste

[naive swallow]

can we solo castle nathria on normal now?

[inland flame]

Dang thanks for reminding me I want to see if I can blow up Jaina in mythic P1 now

[naive swallow]

just realized 10.2 normal ilvl is higher than 10.15 myth

[compact knot]

not bad for first kill

igira was scuffed

dead for 2 mins:(

[inland flame]

New whelp cap is 450 that's basically Aberrus myth

450 is the new 411

[compact knot]

higher than aberrus mythic

[hardy shuttle]

Padded my heart out tonight

[inland flame]

Ya by a few points

[compact knot]

on both bosses u did

lol

[hardy shuttle]

I cannot dispute this

[quasi oak]

when you loot a leggo item from a raid boss where does it go? i don't see it in bags or in currency tab

[compact knot]

goes in bags i think

its being weird for some people

[quasi oak]

mine disappeared then 😦

[compact knot]

ive gotten 2 greater 3 smalls and all went into my bags, a dk received 2 greater but none went in his bags

[unreal kelp]

Smolderon + spear = L

[north edge]

i pvp aswell so made those boots first week

[compact knot]

ah tru

those boots fuck in pvp

[north edge]

theyre not that terrible in m+ i think

i can get decent uptime on it if i kick on CD

but yeah abit useless in riad

[compact knot]

prob not since we r a burst spec in m+

so the 500 str is good

its 500 right?

510

[north edge]

597

[compact knot]

600 is pretty good actually, you just charge before you pop cds and do like 6% more

[north edge]

oh it procs off charge too?

[compact knot]

ye

[north edge]

shit i did not eralise

[ornate gust]

How did you get 2 greater embers? Killed Fryakk in heroic then normal?

[compact knot]

normal then heroic

[midnight cairn]

Is Odyn's Fury uncapped aoe?

[slim coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3hTbspbxeK6AfahWjyzcWq

Finally at the 200k mark

[verbal garden]

Take what sims best? How good is that trinket?

[compact knot]

weapon

[sullen dove]

weapon way better

[slim coral]

that trinket is dog

[compact knot]

dont think just take weapon

[sullen dove]

even if you had 2 489 weapons

[inland flame]

myth track weapon zug zug

[sullen dove]

go weap ez

[sudden tusk]

even if you had a third 489

between your legs

[ornate gust]

Can I get the second greater ember if I kill heroic Fyrakk first?

[compact knot]

idk

its luck

[icy panther]

new to the t31 4pc... whats our on pull opener supposed to look like?

[ornate gust]

I thought the greater ember is a guaranteed drop if we don't loot the legendary item

[inland flame]

Well the drop chance itself gets consumed for lower difficulties on higher difficulties. Maybe the BLP does, too?

[slim coral]

reck charge into OF, roar, BB, ramp, bb, rampe bb, Avatar, is a general cd use

[compact knot]

my dk tank only got one from two kills

so

[inland flame]

did you kill the higher difficulty first?

[sudden tusk]

dw we dropped a feast

[ornate gust]

I see

[compact knot]

normal then heroic

[inland flame]

Huh ya who knows

[ornate gust]

Interesting …

Last night… I got 2 lesser and 1 greater embers from heroic and 2 lesser embers from mythic

[urban tapir]

Nice I got trapped by someone with a big fire circle with like 10% left on Gnarl, threw my parse hard lol

[plucky otter]

am i losing damage from odyns fury buffed by spear if i use the avatar spear macro?

[somber elk]

I Killed normal fyrakk before hi and Both dropped greater

[north edge]

thats kinda wierd isnt it

with the evoker legendary didnt only the higher tier count

so does blizzard want us to clear normal, heroic and mythic every week for the highest chance

[inland flame]

I don't think we should macro Ava into Spear anymore since you want to open with OF and then use Ava second.

[plucky otter]

i am opening with odyns

[ornate gust]

You open with no Enrage?

[sullen dove]

reck > charge > enough rage to rampage > odyn > spear > hit buttons for like 3 seconds > avatar > more buttons

you proly can push spear back a little if you want to make it sorta more in line with avatar like you prolly wont get more than 3 or 4 bb's off during it

but w/e idk

thats just in my brain now

[wheat spruce]

what's best embellishment for mm+? i know it says 2x shadowflame, but it's st so it must be for raid, right?

isn't legs better for exemple

[north edge]

M+ gotta be the vers bracers + the haste legs right?

most stats for the most uptime

[plucky otter]

sorry yea we just started a pull, yes i do open with enrage into odyns fury

[ornate gust]

I use haste legs and clock shadowflames. I do +20-21 keys only

[sullen dove]

verse wrist def like 100% value in keys

haste pants a little more sus

if you like do a dungeon with lots of mobs or tank chainpulls its aight

but not like a definitive "this is always good" thing its just kinda there

[zenith siren]

should i macro avatar - recklesness and thunderous roar for multi target ?

[sullen dove]

you can tho theres reasons to at least keep reck and avatar seperate

generally if you have all cds off cooldown you'd want to odyns before avatar, and it helps to have reck with that odyns together, then avatar comes a few seconds later

and roar can be pmuch anywhere in there somewhere

after the odyns or avatar

[paper ivy]

I feel like fury is doing less damage compared to other classes

[zenith siren]

ty

[zenith siren]

same

[sullen dove]

well that would be because uh... thats true

pretty objectively

we like kinda middle of the pack

[paper ivy]

My friend is playing hunter and i can never catch up his dps

[sullen dove]

but rogue/dh/hunter blow us out of the water

[paper ivy]

I hope the legendry changes smth

[inland flame]

I mean it's going to make you do more damage

[wanton mirage]

As long as all the dots happen in reck window rite?

[sullen dove]

yea thatd be ideal

[summer quail]

It won't. Not compared to rogue dh hunter

[sullen dove]

i mean theyre like... on the chopping block to get nerfed

surely

[paper ivy]

A question. Dont u have that moment on a bl pull, u rampage and ur rage fills up and u can rampage again

Is it better to do 2x rampage and then blood bath

[wanton mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[sullen dove]

im like 90% sure just bb

[summer quail]

Yes, but it depends how much they get nerfed. Like a 3% aura nerf would tickle them

[paper ivy]

Or just keep the rotation going like rampage bloodbath ramaphe blood bath

[summer quail]

Bb>ramp unless not enraged

[paper ivy]

Ok

[wanton mirage]

BRH 20's demonbane

not that bad for a flavor stat

[paper ivy]

A question, does that chance of dropping Fyr'alath Legendary Weapon increase each time u kill fyrakk?

should u clear both normal and heroic for better chance?

[ornate gust]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-announces-how-to-get-fyralath-legendary-how-bad-luck-protection-works-336433

"Fyr’alath can be obtained with any loot specialization for Death Knights, Paladins, and Warriors by defeating Fyrakk within the heart of Amirdrassil on all difficulties, which will be very rare on Raid Finder difficulty (when available) and significantly increases in drop rate with each difficulty. As with Nasz’uro, completion on higher difficulties will include your chances from all uncompleted lower difficulties that week–this also includes the cumulative increase in chances for future weeks."

[paper ivy]

Ah ok

[paper ivy]

Thanks ❤️

[normal yoke]

Hey gang, Assume that RA buff is not currently active, and BT is off CD. You have enough rage to Ramp, and Execute is lit up (either Execute range, or SD proc).
With T31, is there any point where hitting Execute in this situation is better than hitting Ramp > BB?
I think if OF buff is still up, the clear choice is Ramp > BB, right?
And what if OF buff is not up? Does that put execute higher on the priority?

Thanks in advance.

[edgy widget]

If Furious Bloodthirst is active, priority is to spend it on BB instead of BT - that may not always be possible, but it is ideal

[normal yoke]

So, def not hitting BT in any of the above scenarios. More trying to gauge if there is a point where it is worth hitting Execute over hitting Ramp > BB.
It's just a change in perspective for BB/BT to be in a higher priority than Execute to me, so just trying to wrap my brain on whether that's all the time, if there is ever a case where you do want to prio execute over Ramping to get the RA buff and BB instead.

[icy cliff]

Hi Guys, can you plz explain me, if my rotation in M+ is correct.

Rush > macro (reckless + OF and Enrage + ww up from OF) then Rampage > BB > ececute > macro (roar + Avatar + prepot + trinket + ww up) then rampage > BB and so on.
Slam as filmer and after opener after 4 skills i use whirlwind

I dunno why but i think im wrong, especially with my macros

[rain talon]

I personally haven't been executing off my sudden death procs unless I need the rage for another rampage. Rampage -> BB -> Rampage -> BB untl no rage for rampage. Its been working for me better from what I can tell

with WW for every 4 abilities ofc

[normal yoke]

This has been my experience as well, but wasn't sure if I was being suboptimal by, for example, is no RA buff, BT if off CD, you have ~80 rage, so you CAN ramp, but you could also execute to maximize rage gen, then go into Ramp > BB.
But I don't know if that's ever worth doing. With/without Furious Bloodthirst, for example.

[icy cliff]

And you sinc as well avatar and roar and you use everything on CD? Means that you use roar and avatar as well if odyn isnt up?

[rain talon]

I use avatar not on CD necesarily. I use it to get 4 more whirlwind stacks when I have used up my OF 3 crits too

[wraith wharf]

the set piece will stack up to 6 times

[rain talon]

I roar after the first Rampage -> BB if its up and Im in a larger pack

[rain talon]

This is news to me. I was to the understanding I was wasting stacks if I used both at the same time. If so then yes, I guess we pop avatar earlier. I was saving avatar a bit more last week due to the M+ mechanic however

[wraith wharf]

well you dont want to overwrite the bleed from OF, but other than that the crit buff should stack up to 6 stacks

[rain talon]

Are the bleeds from OF and TR not separate entities?

[wraith wharf]

i don't believe they are, they will overwrite eachother and waste damage

[south kayak]

damn they really rolled aug

[rain talon]

Gotcha, glad I was here to learn that. Im doing alright with the new spec, but could always learn more

[south kayak]

they are like bottom 3 on rankings

[covert blaze]

[unreal onyx]

Good

[south kayak]

is Anda still playing aug

[eternal sundial]

[unreal onyx]

Surely not

[eternal sundial]

Bro knows

[unreal onyx]

Andawarr comeback

[eternal sundial]

Naur

[covert blaze]

i would tag anda but he hates me

[prime bane]

i despise odyn's fury

not that there is really any choice

[covert blaze]

what the heck

[prime bane]

it just didn't fit how i played my warrior is all

[pulsar helm]

then dont pick it

[spiral night]

what numbers are you guys pulling in your 20 keys? averaged 200k with 472 ilvl (and terrible weapons) last night, and didnt feel too good about it

[eternal sundial]

Depends on key and grp

[prime bane]

it's built into the set pieces lol

[sullen dove]

i mean if youre above or near the other dps youre fine

if youre way below them then maybe feel a little bad unless they're meta specs

but 200k sounds high asf, unless you had an aug

[spiral night]

im not, was 20k below rouge, dh and maybe 10k below ret in the keys

[prime bane]

rogue, dh, and ret should be vastly ahead if similarly geared

[sullen dove]

idk bout ret

but other 2 def

[spiral night]

ah aight guess its fine then, just didnt feel too good laggin behind

[prime bane]

i watched a ret do close to 500k

[tender cairn]

someone has to be last

[spiral night]

did it have to be me tho

[tender cairn]

yes

[spiral night]

sadface

[tender cairn]

ur a warrior u can take it

[spiral night]

need the leggo and to win the lottery to afford it - then i can keep up

[prime bane]

my 470 bm hunter is doing pretty good dps. lol i switched to bm hunter after i saw the set piece wanted to force me into odyn's fury

[unreal onyx]

If you play with a rogue and dh, you are bound to be last

[meager void]

sides its not like they treat us like monks, we have some dignity

[unreal onyx]

If the other 2 have half a brain

[tender cairn]

can't wait to get leggo and throw it away

[spiral night]

what is a monks

[eternal sundial]

Healer and rank exclusive spec

Windwalker doesnt exist

[unreal onyx]

Overall?

[spiral night]

oh yeah the melee healer, i've seen that yeah

[prime bane]

i honestly can't swear what the meter was set on cause it was a stream my friend was doing

[tender cairn]

don't swear then

[prime bane]

i didn't

[eternal sundial]

500k on ozumat noway

[unreal onyx]

I doubt a ret can do 500k overall unless they are giga-geared and they purposfully pad on adds in brh or tott

Or if they do a boss with dmg amp

[eternal sundial]

500k overall seems like some mdi cheese

[unreal onyx]

Nerf dh and im happy

And maybe bm st

[tender cairn]

dont nearf dh

[prime bane]

no not bm

[warm pewter]

Dont nerf DH buff other classes

[tender cairn]

buff warr to be even higher than dh instead

[prime bane]

enhancement shamans are doing some insane single target

[warm pewter]

Well DH might need a slight nerf but dont want them to stomp it into the ground

[prime bane]

well at least ours is.. he's parsing really high on the logs

[gloomy nebula]

That's just the cycle of being fotm

[prime bane]

our highest parsing player in our guild is a feral druid

[wheat spruce]

bloodmallet doesnt know embellishment damage anymore?

[gloomy nebula]

Be busted for a season or two then be a piece of shit among pieces of shit

[prime bane]

but he probably just knows his class ver ywell

[wheat spruce]

there is other website to quick sim embellishment?

[warm pewter]

Bruh?

[prime bane]

yeah, legendary parses on every fight in heroic, we aint hit mythic yet

[warm pewter]

Cause he is 1/10 people playing it

[unreal onyx]

Fury when

[warm pewter]

Shadowlands spear+Bladestorm

until you die of aggro

[unreal onyx]

Fury was definetly not busted in sl

[south kayak]

[warm pewter]

Eh u rite that was surv hunter

[gloomy nebula]

God I miss merciless bonegrinder

[warm pewter]

I doubt we'll ever see fury on top top

[south kayak]

we will in the last titen

titan

[unreal onyx]

Not in the near future

[warm pewter]

I dont think ever tbh

[gloomy nebula]

I wouldn't wish for that tbh because then it'll get nerfed into the ground

[warm pewter]

Eh look at DH, been consistently good for a long time

[gloomy nebula]

I'm fine with flying under the radar and still being competitive don't gotta be fotm to enjoy

[prime bane]

he has to be doing something right lol

[gloomy nebula]

I used to really like the annihilator build before they fucking changed RA

[prime bane]

that's just on igira though

[warm pewter]

Yah im chilling, i was struggling a lil last week cause 2p but way more fun this week

They changed RA?

Oh ye they did

[eternal sundial]

It used to be 2 stacks

[gloomy nebula]

Last season you got two charges

And it wasn't on the gcd pretty sure so could ramp then double bloodbath then repeat

[eternal sundial]

It was on gcd

[warm pewter]

[eternal sundial]

Just had a diff CD

[warm pewter]

I was boutta be like

[eternal sundial]

Between bt and BB

[warm pewter]

Wth

[unreal onyx]

RAOF dathea pad gaming

[prime bane]

so wait. the fact that there are a ton of bm hunters means it's harder to parse high?

so maybe i shouldn't feel so horrible?

[warm pewter]

Yes

[gloomy nebula]

I used it in lower keys like 16 - 18s last season was fun

And it was my open world build

[warm pewter]

More players = more samples to compete against

[south kayak]

you guys wanna reroll demo

[eternal sundial]

Fotm good players do good damage regardless

[south kayak]

why are you here if you're a bm

[warm pewter]

Already made my DH alt

[prime bane]

i play warrior too...

[unreal onyx]

Yes, but do you want to only parse or do big dam?

[eternal sundial]

I mean thats just not padded enough

[prime bane]

i play more than one class

[south kayak]

same

[south kayak]

I tried havoc, it was boring

[prime bane]

how am i gonna be padded? they pop everything on our feral druid lol

[warm pewter]

Prob gonna tank tbh

[eternal sundial]

???

Bro do u know the term padding

[prime bane]

apparently not

[south kayak]

can't get myself to play it because i just log off every time i log in lol

[eternal sundial]

It means meaningless AOE only for logs not for killing boss

So idk saving CDs for some add spawn

[south kayak]

I thought of rolling a demo, because i like it and it's 4p

and it's doign well

[eternal sundial]

And on gnarlroot all you will do is aoe adds

[south kayak]

it woul dbe really good when they nerf the outliners

5head

[prime bane]

that seems silly to do that

[warm pewter]

Fair, i always have a hard time switching away from my zug zug warrior lifestyle

[eternal sundial]

It's how you get more dam for your log

[south kayak]

have you seen demo?

@warm pewter

[eternal sundial]

It's rat as fuck but it's how you parse at times

[prime bane]

i guess i aint that concerned with it then idk

[warm pewter]

Nah i have not

[south kayak]

demo kinda owns

[warm pewter]

Is it good?

[unreal onyx]

Dmg to boss logs are the real logs

[warm pewter]

I play it in PvP

[south kayak]

I've been playing with a few demo locks and they were pumping

[prime bane]

in a raid what else are you supposed to be logging

[south kayak]

obviously not as good as havoc or bm but that's normal

[unreal onyx]

You want to log overall dmg

[eternal sundial]

There's spots where aoe is valueable

[warm pewter]

Pad damage for parses pump boss for prog

[prime bane]

well no if i did overall damage my damage would be through the roof just from aoe on trash

[unreal onyx]

But that can be cheesed by aoe padding on unimporant adds

[south kayak]

have you thought of making a bm alt

[unreal onyx]

Well overall dmg in a bossfight obviously

[prime bane]

oh

[warm pewter]

Fuck hunters

[south kayak]

damn

[olive wraith]

so... i heard yesterday about a bug that those embers from fyrakk dont drop at all. is/was that fake or is it fixed

[south kayak]

dunno

[prime bane]

are you talking about the embers for the quest?

[unreal onyx]

I got mine from nm fyrakk

[south kayak]

No

[olive wraith]

i am,yes

[south kayak]

you are EU?

[unreal onyx]

Yes

[south kayak]

ok so it's working now i g

[olive wraith]

alrighty,thanks ladies

[unreal onyx]

Yesterday already

[olive wraith]

gapped

[slender perch]

The question is. Has anyone actually got the Lego yet?

From personal loot

[keen kindle]

Yes

[olive wraith]

a bit up the channel

som1 posted

[keen kindle]

A couple have posted it here

[olive wraith]

well,lets try my luck then

[slender perch]

Lucky B******s 😂

I wonder what the %chance is

[south kayak]

time to make a BM alt

[olive wraith]

i have one. just need to gear

[south kayak]

mine's 385 xd

need to do the emerald dream questline

[olive wraith]

original plan was to get every class to 2.4k this season. maybe ill take bm to 3k

[south kayak]

EVERY??

[olive wraith]

[south kayak]

what

are you insane

[olive wraith]

well 2k isnt hard

someone has either alot of time,or is very very bored

[south kayak]

idk it's kinda too much lol

[olive wraith]

i did 4 last season

in like the last month of the season

honestly getting its not super bad until like 2.7k

cause then you need to actually start playing the class well

[south kayak]

bm hunters straight up chilling to the top dps

no sweaty gameplay

[olive wraith]

its fury ranged

whats not to like

[south kayak]

true

[olive wraith]

well. less apm

[south kayak]

I was thinking of making a demo lock

seems fun

[sudden tusk]

we juiced

[south kayak]

congratulations

[olive wraith]

[south kayak]

can demo outdps a bm

[olive wraith]

Equal skill and ilvl?

No

[south kayak]

is it close

was that guy in your grp equal ilvl and skill? @olive wraith

as the bm

[pulsar helm]

so?

[olive wraith]

I have no idea

This was a pug

[south kayak]

so probably nnot xd

[olive wraith]

Didn’t check the ilvl

[spare otter]

I made a havoc alt

But this class makes no sense to me

Is fury just that easy

[south kayak]

wdym

havoc is easy too

[spare otter]

I don't understand the CDs ngl

Like when do you meta

[south kayak]

so you use flame sigil pre pull

[spare otter]

If EB and eye beam always line up anyway

[light stump]

lol I kept seeing people say that here, went over to the havoc discord and they all said the opposite

[spare otter]

I get so many dead gcds as havoc as well

[south kayak]

immolation aura, fel rush, eye beam, Vengeful retreat> EB > eye beam > death sweep > Meta > deathsweep inside that EB window

[spare otter]

Like idk why

[south kayak]

then do the rest as normal etc

anihilation and using death sweep on cd

[silk wharf]

its hard if you read the wowhead prio guide thats for sure.

[spare otter]

How tf are you getting 2 eye beams?

[south kayak]

Maybe they're just huffing copium

[eternal sundial]

#fury 👈 @south kayak

[south kayak]

ignore the first eye beam

lmao

[light stump]

I don't even want to switch to the new t31 rotation

[south kayak]

he asked lol

[spare otter]

I mean thing is tho

If you vengeful retreat

You expect me to walk back to the mobs?

[south kayak]

also you get your eye beam reset after meta so i forgot to include that @spare otter

you use it after that death sweep after meta

[bold osprey]

If going for Vers wrist instead of haste/mastery with shadowflame. Are we still aiming for haste/mastery on cloak?

[silk wharf]

The wowhead guide just has logical inconsistencies in it. The two attacks that require meta listed before any abilities that give meta. A couple more i cant recall atm

[spare otter]

Ok yea Icl

Your opener makes so much more sense than what's on wowhead

[spare otter]

Wait where's the hunt in this tho?

[south kayak]

forgor

do you have 4p?

[spare otter]

Nope

[south kayak]

seems fine to me

here's a better rotational list

lets talk about fury so this goes away

[spare otter]

Yea too many buttons tbh

I only know BB-Rampage

[light stump]

I'm currently at 2pc 2pc. Freshly dinged, so no old 4pc.

Should I use flightstones and crest to upgrade two new weekly items for t30 4pc, or better to save it ?

[edgy widget]

So I don't know or care much about DH, but those rotations are generally written as priority lists, so that's not necessarily illogical - if you do have meta (from any source), those abilities could have higher priority than any other non-meta abilities

[eternal sundial]

Timerifts make for good t30 set items upgraded or not

[rich void]

Are these the warrior class tuning changes?

[young swan]

yep

[south kayak]

yeah

they reworked wwarrior into havoc dh

[light stump]

I have the boosted 424s and 447 t31 shoulder, 450 t31 hands. So I could replace head 424 with a 415 (I think is what it drops at) and then either shoulder/hands. But it's quite the ilvl drop - worth simming?

When simming something like this, do I need to change talents or will it do that for me?

[light stump]

smf meta smh 🙂

[wraith wharf]

first set next expac to buff SMF!

[spare otter]

You guys think warrior should get a rework actually?

[south kayak]

maybe

[wraith wharf]

the only rework we need is to make SMF a transmog option

[rich void]

arms capstones need to be looked at, I think fury is okayish

[wraith wharf]

it could be a quest line like green fire was

[eternal sundial]

Timerifts go to 450,no?

That's why i bring it up

[light stump]

oh that's my question sorry. It drops at 415 - is it worth spending flightstones and crests to bring it up to 450?

[eternal sundial]

I mean, you can get higher ilvl drops from content but can you run said content

But i usually swim in flightstones

So id rip it

[tardy lark]

You swim in flightstones when you don’t have 3 weeks of crests saved up

I’ve been hard grinding flightstones to max shit, but rogue went from 462 to 480 in 3.5 hours yesterday

[eternal sundial]

Very true

[noble frost]

em does anyone have this issue when raiding with fury where whenever you press you skill it seems to be somehow sticky/

like after you press your skill there is a slight delay before you can press another skill

even though the cooldown is already done

[edgy widget]

its your lag tolerance - default is 400ms, which is 0.4s

which most players tend to believe feels "sluggish" when playing fast paced, instant ability classes

[quaint viper]

is there anyway to fix it?

[noble frost]

oh em how do i fix that

whenever i play with the americas my ms is around 220?

[edgy widget]

put this in your chat box
/console SpellQueueWindow 150

you can change 150 to whatever number you want - my general recommendation is your average latency +100, but no less than 150