hey guys, some time ago someone posted a neat picture of the fury opener in here, anyone got that one?
#fury
agile bone
chrome plover
dont rly push just 20s for gear
gritty sigil
im 2800 rn and getting giga gapped :/
twilit harbor
hey guys, some time ago someone posted a neat picture of the fury opener in here...
Reck charge ramp spear odyn
gritty sigil
hunter and dh need anther 10 nerfs each
twilit harbor
When odyn bleed expires press avatar
gritty sigil
wait ppl are taking spear over roar atm?
agile bone
wasnt it when small avatar runs out?
twilit harbor
Same duration
agile bone
ah k
chrome plover
im 2800 rn and getting giga gapped :/
I'm only pugging and I think pugs in 21s and under are giga trash
so not really the best people to compare myself to I guess
left perch
I'm only pugging and I think pugs in 21s and under are giga trash
We are. 15s last week felt ridiculously chaotic and I was not having fun
noble elm
I'm only pugging and I think pugs in 21s and under are giga trash
Hard to compare to bm/dh right now
I’m in 21s-23s and even when I’m blasting dh and hunter just dunk on me
chrome plover
Hard to compare to bm/dh right now
I shit on everyone in 21s and under but I think they have no hands
and I am just spamming for the last few pieces of gear
noble elm
Kinda unfair to people running sub 20s tho they’re prob way less geared
hardy cargo
I shit on everyone in 21s and under but I think they have no hands
It’s bc ur a chad u get 20% extra dam
chrome plover
yeah that's pretty much what I'm saying
lower gear/lower skill
maybe if I was doing 23s I'd be getting gapped
(probably)
noble elm
Doubt
chrome plover
but rn everyone sucks
brittle folio
any new weak aura trackers
gritty sigil
I'm only pugging and I think pugs in 21s and under are giga trash
same i have to pug. my guildmates cannot handle high keys .-.
noble elm
Good dhs are impossible to top and good bm hunters destroy trash outside of that fury is def up there 100% agree we’re in a decent place
chrome plover
speak for yourself
I know you are spongie but I was talking about the random 20s I join
warm crag
random 20 are pinnacle difficulty content
gritty sigil
i had a DH do 400k overall in my BRH key. no pi no aug. i did like 250k.... i just cant compete
partially skill issue, i just suck. but class has to be part of it :/
chrome plover
i had a DH do 400k overall in my BRH key. no pi no aug. i did like 250k.... i ju...
yeah no one is doing that in mine 
noble elm
lol
chrome plover
I think I did 304 in a brh last week (with aug)
young swan
yeah i mean dh just the best m+ spec in the game
chrome plover
but like 250-280 normally and my pug dhs do about the same or a bit lower :s
past pivot
DH is getting major nerfs come the 4th. Just wait.
noble elm
I did 305 in Brh last week and got destroyed by my dh guildie
gritty sigil
im pulling rookie numbers apparently 💀 what ilvl r u guys
chrome plover
478
noble elm
473 w/ bis gorehowl
rotund steppe
guys ho do i sim what runes are better for me?
chrome plover
copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3
paste that under advanced
past pivot
guys ho do i sim what runes are better for me?
Change default simc
gritty sigil
how do i sim for best secondary stat distribution. p sure mine are wayyyy off what they shuld be
im rocking like 6k crit x.x
noble elm
how do i sim for best secondary stat distribution. p sure mine are wayyyy off wh...
You don’t. Just sim top gear
rotund steppe
copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whets...
where in advanced do i paste it? anythere in the code?
chrome plover
under your /simc
gritty sigil
oh so i have to actually have other gear in my inv?
desert cloud
anyone need a belt by any chance we got plenty
wild mural
is crit's career over?
noble elm
oh so i have to actually have other gear in my inv?
If you have no other gear you can droptimizer for m+
rotund steppe
under your /simc
im dumbo where its that
quiet geyser
Warrior bad, or just everyone else too OP? 
past pivot
im dumbo where its that
gritty sigil
dang i need premium tto sim all dungeons qq
past pivot
That’s for weapon rune
chrome plover
im dumbo where its that
do /simc in game
paste it into an advanced sim
and paste my string underneath
then press go
rotund steppe
kk ty
dry talon
does those lucky charms stack,or no one got more then 1 yet?
quiet geyser
They stack
warm crag
would be a bit shit if it didnt
quiet geyser
Gotten a lesser and greater already
warm crag
no
chrome plover
i got 2 lesser and 1 greater
warm crag
lmao he trolled
chrome plover
ruh roh
warm crag
point and laugh
pliant island
It’s OK you can reverse it
Find a dwarf in a leprechaun transmog and dance with them and you’ll have your luck restored
chrome plover
on it
undone igloo
Trolling aside you just use them when you get them yes?
quiet geyser
Ya
chrome plover
but they are completely meaningless right
because it stays at a 50/50 chance
you either get it or you dont
quiet geyser
Science
undone igloo
So true
hidden sinew
im casting avatar before odyns fury is that correct?
quiet geyser
No
hidden sinew
other way?
hidden sinew
so dont just dump all cds at once for big burst?
quiet geyser
You CAN. But its the very slightest better to use OF first, wait a few secs, then use ava
covert coyote
There’s a burst rotation on wowhead in pins
quiet geyser
So you dont overlap the bleed and auto atk dmg buff
covert coyote
You left the raid, right?
warm crag
based
subtle lagoon
That is so troll
quiet geyser
Kinda dumb since fury the only spec who isn't gonna replace it with legendary lol
hidden sinew
i guess it all depends if there was a mutual loot agreement. when signing up for raid
shell jackal
there wasn't but i get it, i just think he had ample time to get himself better than a 441!
hidden sinew
i mean yah ive got a 486 crafted so
balmy chasm
why would they roll it if they still force him to give it to dk...
hidden sinew
no excuse really.
rigid wyvern
if i have fury loot spec and there is 1h on raid do i get main role on it or off spec after needing this?
wild mural
moment?
sage depot
wild mural
nah this is going out via the loot council
rich void
Yerp been there
past pivot
I lost 3 rolls for a signet yesterday. Was so triggered.
modest condor
it did 13% of my damage on that kill
nova igloo
do we change any talents for single target or the exact same for it?
dawn pivot
is Fyr'alath the Dreamrender personal loot even with loot council?
brisk talon
I've started to notice that as well. Some pulls it'll be like 11-13% of my damage. Other more "normal" pulls its like 6 or 7%
summer quail
is Fyr'alath the Dreamrender personal loot even with loot council?
yes except mythic
unreal onyx
surely
unreal onyx
yes except mythic
mythic has extra possibility for leggo drop as group loot from what I understand
but you can still get it personal
meager gyro
NA can't get axe yet just the pity coin
versed cipher
is doulbe wafting better than wafting/sophic
unreal onyx
I killed fyrakk nm just now and got the greater spark of fyralath
meager gyro
Liquid salty they suck at hard bosses and didn't do it
clear crescent
do we use =
warm crag
yes use
nova igloo
do we use =
yes
dry talon
do we use =
from normal or hc ?
clear crescent
normal
wet cloak
How bad is 2 - 1 handers for fury right now? Cant seem to get any 2 handers yet lol
left perch
here it comes
unreal onyx
How bad is 2 - 1 handers for fury right now? Cant seem to get any 2 handers yet ...
do you have lootspec arms?
left perch
How bad is 2 - 1 handers for fury right now? Cant seem to get any 2 handers yet ...
Like 7% worse I think? Forgor last sims, but may be better or worse for you depending on what you have
wet cloak
I am now I only went fury when there was no 2h and could get a 1h
unreal onyx
always stay arms lootspec
chilly fractal
NA can't get axe yet just the pity coin
A Ret on Area 52 US looted one last night IIRC
unreal onyx
real
past pivot
is Fyr'alath the Dreamrender personal loot even with loot council?
Yes. Though it can also drop as group loot on mythic
rotund steppe
i think that was a bug
chilly fractal
i think that was a bug
You thought wrong
rotund steppe
its so awesome to see the amount of bugged stuff right now
chilly fractal
Blizzard already addressed this
meager gyro
A Ret on Area 52 US looted one last night IIRC
I'll look for a pic
rotund steppe
has the embers been fixed for EU?
chilly fractal
I'll look for a pic
Scroll up
rotund steppe
and the greater embers in general?
past pivot
NA can't get axe yet just the pity coin
What? It’s unlocked.
rotund steppe
yeah axe its unlocked
chilly fractal
What? It’s unlocked.
He’s just making shit up
rotund steppe
pro mad cuz it didnt get the axe 1st try
unreal onyx
axe is real (supposedly)
summer quail
real
unreal onyx
real
rotund steppe
real
shell jackal
real
warm crag
i clicked the on use and it didnt make me say real it just did 150k damage
rotund steppe
rotund steppe
i clicked the on use and it didnt make me say real it just did 150k damage
we need to make a macro
that uses the axe and says real
unreal onyx
but man it fucks in m+
unreal onyx
especially with might of the ocean as combo
drifting iris
can i trust that sim? A bit strange that I can't get a better weapon on 476 especially for offhand https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cHEqondexKTkKjPSkWXZmT
chrome plover
i shouldve sat on another mythic boss so i could have 2 heroic vaults for augury
fuck im dumb
unreal onyx
this tier having 1 myth slot isn't even that worth since there is no extra high ilvl tier
even on fyrakk
warm crag
can i trust that sim? A bit strange that I can't get a better weapon on 476 espe...
mirror might fuck your sims
wild mural
Oh let's go
wild mural
now to just get augury in vault ig
modest condor
just loot it
chilly fractal
I got a normal mode brand I’m happy with (for now)
chilly fractal
I never got anvil above heroic
wild mural
both DHs now got augury
quiet bramble
they hotfixed our 2p eh? You can have 6 stacks now
chilly fractal
Bruh
wild mural
it was like that anyway
rotund steppe
jesus internet explorer
chilly fractal
It’s been that way
young swan
that happened like 1.5 months ago
quiet bramble
what's the reason for delaying avatar then?
next canopy
we need to make a macro
It should say “real and true” actually
young swan
OF dot + dancing blades duration/ww stacks
rotund steppe
bleed and db
quiet bramble
does Titan's torments avatar and avatar not combine right?
young swan
they do
quiet bramble
you'd think they'd make those stack properly
meager gyro
I haven't even tried to kill fyrakk this week but I got 5 warriors ready to down him. I just hate them stupid ass fake screenshots. Ain't no way they gonna let leggo drop from vault. Every evoker on planet gonna reign hell on forums
quiet bramble
regarding the dot and dancing blades
chilly fractal
Scumseason on Area52 looted it I believe
meager gyro
Not from vault tho right?
tranquil pollen
going back on warrior, have been playing arms but decided to check fury out again, what is this build lmao do we press slam now? because i feel like i have nothing to press with annihilator
chilly fractal
No
wild mural
chilly fractal
<:xan:1094127979703062558>
Upgrade your shit
young swan
going back on warrior, have been playing arms but decided to check fury out agai...
u actually need to think about the order u press shit now gg
fury has a skill floor
young swan
just make sure every other gcd is bt and you should be fine @tranquil pollen
snow edge
Horrifying
tranquil pollen
i havent got 4set yet gonna grab it all this week, decided to go outlaw at start but i just wanna play my main again
as it reads after odyns fury i want to press 3 BT?
chilly fractal
lemme tell u a secret
Didn’t you just loot a Brand?
golden dock
will we be able to dual wield the leggo or is it unique-equipped?
tranquil pollen
it will only be 1
chilly fractal
will we be able to dual wield the leggo or is it unique-equipped?
You can mog it to your offhand
golden dock
darn
last pier
Is dungeon slice to be trusted for fury?
solar nebula
hi guys, how much haste fury should have? with new set and spec of course
is there a cap?
wild mural
Didn’t you just loot a Brand?
yeah I didnt have aspects to upgrade it yet
solar nebula
over 30% is not bad?
warm crag
sim it
tranquil pollen
so what gems/ enchants do we run with now is it verse mastery with verse enchants?
chilly fractal
so what gems/ enchants do we run with now is it verse mastery with verse enchant...
Sim!
past pivot
hi guys, how much haste fury should have? with new set and spec of course
Don’t focus on any number or %. It’ll change depending on your gear. Sim. Always sim.
young swan
over 30% is not bad?
its fine, dont focus too hard on stats
just get a lot of mastery and equip high ilvl shit
sim gear
yadda yadda
chilly fractal
Do dam
unreal onyx
getting to master your rotation is more important than minmaxing secondaries 
short spire
what dung should i do for a good shoulder to cat?
young swan
doesnt matter just get a pair of shoulders
chilly fractal
Any dungeon that drops shoulders
young swan
stats get converted
short spire
say less
young swan
all the dungo shoulders suck
short spire
i love this xan guy
young swan
wild mural
it didn't do that much dps :/
olive wraith
Is this m+
wild mural
gnarlroot mythic
quiet bramble
it's a str trinket with an extra effect, I think 3-5% is pretty good for it
olive wraith
Isn’t that a tank trink
olive wraith
I mean it’ll help you live I’m sure
lapis lion
t31 fury might be my favorite iteration ever
lapis lion
blizzard don't you ever make me go back to slamming raging blow
fading bane
it does the dmg back, so its more like the pot
olive wraith
t31 fury might be my favorite iteration ever
Shhhh you’ll awaken the anni haters
grim star
it feels so slow compared to last season
rotund ginkgo
for prot its probably insane
lapis lion
how does it feel any slower - it's basically the same apm
rotund ginkgo
for dps its probably notbad
u definitely feel it per pack tho
like, when its on
u know its on
grim star
I feel like im spending more time on random whirlwind or slam casts
noble elm
Buttons are buttons?
lapis lion
which is the same thing as if you hit raging blow a bunch
quiet bramble
I dunno there's a lot of time where I'm just casting rampage and bloodbath back to back to back
olive wraith
You’re hitting 3 buttons instead of 1 for rage gen
rotund ginkgo
apm feels similar yh
olive wraith
I dunno there's a lot of time where I'm just casting rampage and bloodbath back ...
Rek windows to be feeling better
lapis lion
it's cool, it's fun, bt feels good to press, odyns fury is fun. i love this version, so much more than t30
rotund ginkgo
i appreciate my finger not clicking the same button tho
clever path
Twins
olive wraith
So not having it felt giga bad
rotund ginkgo
only downside is that i feel less consistent in dmg cuz burst windows and not every 25s reck rava D:
but yeah no reck t30 felt bad
rotund ginkgo
spamming noodle raging blows
molten relic
rotund ginkgo
not nearly the same as reck/rav
tranquil pollen
what enchants are you guys using on weapons?
rotund ginkgo
25-30s RNG+uptime dependant
whereas AM is consistent as long as ur hitting its gtting reduced
barren dagger
you guys using an avatar buff WA to time your OF and Avatar?
rotund ginkgo
ive had scenarios where i legit had no crits for 3 BTs in a row
rotund ginkgo
you guys using an avatar buff WA to time your OF and Avatar?
OF>ava wears off>ava
high basin
any axe drops?
quiet bramble
what enchants are you guys using on weapons?
you can sim enchants
barren dagger
OF>ava wears off>ava
yeah but i need to track AVA for that
rotund ginkgo
id like to think MOST fury warr weakauras track it
quiet bramble
it's usually wafting main hand and then it's a toss up between wafting off hand or sophic offhand
wild mural
wait fr?
compact knot
yes
tranquil pollen
are you guys prefering fury over arms atm or swap between i like both specs and fury feels less spammy now in a way, just wondering if one out preforms one?
compact knot
both are good in raid rn i think, fury better rn though imo
unreal onyx
I have 2x sophic 
compact knot
arms does hella on fort weeks, fury does hella on tyr weeks
tranquil pollen
the stats is whats throwing me off with fury atm, im so used to it being haste mastrey
like what weapon runes are you guys using?
i know ilvl beats all
and i need to sim
compact knot
its kinda ass cause not alot of mastery/vers items
tranquil pollen
but it just feels all over the place imo
compact knot
double mastery rune in raid and haste in m+ usually
double mastery might be better in m+ anyways but i just go haste
compact knot
hes trolling
tranquil pollen
see everyone seems to have a different opinion, plus im looking at rio and people are running verse mastrey gems and ive simmed myself and its saying to stikc with my haste crit, from when i was arms
unreal onyx
well
languid estuary
Is Mastery > Crit better for M+? Every sim I've done recently is putting crit somuch higher than verse
unreal onyx
ofc you stack crit as arms
compact knot
i mean secondarys are different for everybody
tranquil pollen
but im trying to optimise for fury
compact knot
for me though mastery and vers have been highest 2 since early season 2
unreal onyx
Til you can middle-mouse click the "sim" button at the end and it will run that sim in a new tab and you can quickly change the settings of the initial sim and run it instantly too
compact crater
When we are enraged do trinkets and stuff do increased dmg aswell?
unreal onyx
trinkets only scale with vers
compact knot
^
compact crater
ok ok
compact knot
well cant some scale off haste if icd
compact crater
I´m just confused why i stack so much mastery and vers atm
compact knot
ik springs keeper scales with vers/haste super well (weapon that heals friends)
unreal onyx
1T5min pw sims have haste runes as worst, crit as 2nd and mastery as best
unreal onyx
dmg diff between haste and mastery is 1700DPS
olive wraith
Crit is pretty good. Haste too actually
unreal onyx
for me haste is the worst by "far"
snow storm
I´m just confused why i stack so much mastery and vers atm
Stat bloat this tier + being able to hit large DR caps on secondary stats + haste loses value when you always have enough rage to keep up enrage
compact knot
enrage practically 100% uptime on some bosses
4 min igira kill and it only went down once the entire fight when i ran out to soak
quiet bramble
94% on Volcoross for me, woo
icy cliff
what can i macro with T31 set?
past pivot
what can i macro with T31 set?
The new augment rune and celebration firework.
compact knot
what can i macro with T31 set?
i have reck and avatar and spear macroed together, i only use it after the opener so i dont odyns fury outside of boss range
and augment rune + bshout
and a instant heroic leap macro
icy cliff
i thought we use Reck and Odyn and avater with roar 5 sec later?
compact knot
i mean sure?
that macro is only used after the opener, i reck charge, odyns wait for dot to fall off then push the macro again
unreal onyx
vers on top
heavy sparrow
I have some issues with this tier set, i don't dislike the odyn's fury part, but i do dislike it proccing from every bt crit
compact knot
huh
heavy sparrow
Would have preferred if it was just the empowered bts, but significantly more cdr
unreal onyx
what
compact knot
i mean true
heavy sparrow
I just don't really like the annihilator focus
compact knot
it wouldnt force us into annhilator, and we could run ravager
clever path
the stats is whats throwing me off with fury atm, im so used to it being haste m...
im 20 crit 26 haste 58 mast 31 vers
heavy sparrow
Basically, that's the idea
icy vine
and augment rune + bshout
Can I get that macro, can’t seem to get augment and bs to activate together
heavy sparrow
Well, that's just tuning
compact knot
Can I get that macro, can’t seem to get augment and bs to activate together
#showtooltip battle shout
/use battle shout
/use Dreambound Augment Rune
heavy sparrow
Yea but if you could run ravager and odyn
noble elm
The cdr is already pretty healthy
compact knot
^
clever path
and then odyns is back to dogshit
compact knot
make odyns 51%
clever path
why not buff odyns by 50% instead of putting it into the tierset
clever path
it was good in mass aoe back in 10.0.5 because u would have like 15 steroids
avatar ravager
reck
compact knot
then they buffed onslaught
heavy sparrow
That was not a bad idea though
clever path
you played onslaught and odyns
without talents below
them
algethar mainly
pad dungeon
clever path
ye but that means i have to play bladestorm
flat river
they gave us this 50% buff and then towards the end of the patch
What 50% buff?
heavy sparrow
Like, onslaught was pretty bad, it was good they buffed it, they just forgot odyn
clever path
and im not playing bladestorm
flat river
What we talking about
compact knot
BS fucks
clever path
What 50% buff?
2piece odyns
flat river
Oh
flat river
on packs yeah and then u get to the boss
Bladestorm is not the recommended build
Check pins in arms
flat river
U play without it
clever path
im talking 10.0.5
compact knot
^
flat river
Oh
flat river
I wish we still had bladestorm as fury ngl :P
clever path
not terrible st either
clever path
i hate bladestorm on fury
compact knot
since start of season
lavish grove
Pretty cool right?
lavish grove
And then spam ww with mbg
quiet bramble
I love bladestorm myself
lavish grove
clever path
ravager is basically a superior version
ye
dawn pivot
does Lesser Ember of Fyr'alath stack? I got 2
clever path
yes
compact knot
its the buildup for bladestorm with hurricane
heavy sparrow
If they allowed you to use other abilities during bladestorm... Now that would be something
compact knot
then press WW and do 200k per tick
heavy sparrow
For arms
flat river
Like, let us use BS and make us be able to cast interrups/stuns in it
clever path
idk sl arms didnt have this bladestorm issue
you used it on aoe
and when rage starving / out of buttons
untold trench
anyone know what the issue is with action targetting sometimes not properly targetting and unable to cast certain abilities?
clever path
during downtime basically
flat river
does Lesser Ember of Fyr'alath stack? I got 2
Btw im not really sure what theydo
I got a greater one and used it
untold trench
i always have to tab target to fix when it happens to click target
wild mural
flat river
Does it just increase chances next kill?
warm crag
did you misclick offspec or
wild mural
never
silent gazelle
wild mural
I dont evenm have a shield
past pivot
Does it just increase chances next kill?
Read all about them in news.
flat river
Ah
pliant island
👍
flat river
Ty
heavy sparrow
Basically, arms warrior is one of those specs where you have to sacrifice a significant portion of your damage in favor of aoe or st.
Allowing you to cast abilities during bladestorm would not only be nice for gameplay, but also close the gap
At least a bit
compact knot
its not much in m+
flat river
Arms warrior is a glass cannon
compact knot
in raid yes
heavy sparrow
Probably quite a lot
quiet bramble
I think I like ret's talents a ton, they get passive cleave super easy
compact knot
and then do no st
past pivot
Or just not run bladestorm.
heavy sparrow
Honestly, ret paladin is the spec that has this problem the most
flat river
Or just not run bladestorm.
Bladestorm looks so cool though
heavy sparrow
They lose like 26% of their st damage in the m+ build
flat river
Only class that isn't OP after rework
heavy sparrow
Also, i just personally think that ret is just not very fun at the moment.
In fact i did not like either of the full reworks
Shadow or ret
In terms of actual gameplay
flat river
Same
heavy sparrow
Arms is also significantly better than launch yea
plush flower
Don't log out with the BLP items for the leggo in your bag or they might do this. Its taking up a bag slot and has no tooltip. Also cannot move it from the bag slot it is in
heavy sparrow
Can't agree to that, the woa reset was just so awesome
If you're talking about defensives though, yea
They have better range, defensives, utility etc, but i'm talking about core dps rotation
Seraphim could have just gone off gcd, and not cost holy power and it was fine
left perch
removing CS was huga, and the defensives/range problem are :chefskiss:
left perch
and Consec yea
I mained ret for awhile and SL ret got me so down bad about it I still can't really play it in DF
not saying its fixed, just that its WAY better
heavy sparrow
Exorcism would have been good if it just replaced blade of justice with added benefit
unreal crane
Hey, can anyone DM me the string I need to put into a macro to check the lesser ember quantity? Thanks
left perch
Hey, can anyone DM me the string I need to put into a macro to check the lesser ...
in wowhead article in pins
heavy sparrow
But the way it was implemented was just a weird af talent
Consuming a gcd in aoe for some damage, like whetever
severe cypress
Anyone still using anvil? Haven't got a second trink that sims better yet. Do you have it macroed?
Also goddamn I hate anvil.
heavy sparrow
The biggest mistake was by far removing the wake of ashes reset though
In terms of rotation it just never recovered for me
flat river
I mainted prot in SL
left perch
wake reset was nice, it reminded me of wrath tier with DS proc
flat river
Prot pala
And i liked it more than DF ngl
Avengers shield used to generate holy power ;-;
left perch
was a lil op ngl
lavish grove
Like arms one
Wasn't a rework tho
heavy sparrow
It was a "soft rework" Basically changed a few connection
And maybe placements if i remember correctly
lavish grove
Doesn't count
modest condor
?
viscid vessel
was there any confirmed legendary drop in eu today?
lavish grove
And maybe placements if i remember correctly
Was more like a tweaking talents in a new system
heavy sparrow
The fuck?
nocturne tiger
lavish grove
Nice loot 
lavish grove
No one knows exact %, you just get higher chance for legendary to drop each week
spare otter
oh i see
wild mural
dangit bro
modest condor
battle shout
next socket
does bt always prio over rampage
wild mural
egg-citing
no ti isn't
next socket
even if rage capped
wild mural
i dont like this
unreal onyx
does bt always prio over rampage
from what I understand BT doesn't but BB is
you want to ramp to get BB
unreal onyx
but if you ramp
you get BB
which is more dmg
or you giga-brain it with autoattacks and calc the rage you gen during them
next socket
ok i follow, and all of bt,bb,ramp > execute > slam > ww
stray rapids
In my mind it goes like BB>Rampage and click on Slam>BT>WW if no BB and cant Rampage
clever path
its exe>ramp afaik
stray rapids
Only if Enrage is up, no?
elder gate
Is simcraft updated enough? I'm getting a DPS loss with the new tier 2p
next socket
but exe over ramp would generally mean less bb right? still more dps?
stray rapids
Is simcraft updated enough? I'm getting a DPS loss with the new tier 2p
Did you update talents?
elder gate
yeah
stray rapids
You need to use old talents and new talents for a correct sim on tier change
median marsh
we did 8/9 HC bosses tonight, and full normal
i got this 2 -
what should i do with it ?
stray rapids
Eat it
median marsh
oo ok ty
elder ridge
If you use this item from normal and kill the boss again on HC, does it count as a higher chance for the lego?
The same week
noble elm
I got an ember drop on n fyrakk but it didn’t go into my bag rip
viscid vessel
I got an ember drop on n fyrakk but it didn’t go into my bag rip
should be postmaster
unreal onyx
I think if you kill fyrakk on any difficulty you are locked for the week
on any difficulty
viscid vessel
I think if you kill fyrakk on any difficulty you are locked for the week
nah you are only on lower ones
exotic cradle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gyCid94UFVUXUmSgutQtY4 is double wafting right guys?
olive wraith
If robot says so
unreal onyx
nah you are only on lower ones
is this confirmed?
noble elm
should be postmaster
Neg I saw the loot message but it didn’t go into my bag and no postmaster
viscid vessel
yes and it was the case with evoker leggo too
olive wraith
Higher ilvl I’ve been seeing some people sim double waft
noble elm
I opened a ticket yesterday but it isn’t answered yet
viscid vessel
if u kill on hc then your chances from nm and lfr combine with hc one
unreal onyx
I only did nm today and will do hc tomorrow
viscid vessel
so u have higher chance but no chance on lower difficulties this week
unreal onyx
so I can still get it tomorrow in theory?
viscid vessel
yes
cursive dome
did anyone in discord get lego yet?
unreal onyx
the greater one
viscid vessel
and lesser ones drop only from hc and mythic
unreal onyx
but there are also lesser embers
elder ridge
Ahh make sence. I killed him yesterday on NM and tonight on HC. So fingers crossed
unreal onyx
we'll do full hc tomorrow into mythic
hoping for 2 lesser embers during that
we also dabble into the HPS logging early on into the season again
proper veldt
what do i do with Lesser Ember of Fyr'alath and the greater one i ate the lesser one and it did nothing , me confusion
calm kiln
Quickest way to farm/ acquire flightstones?
abstract dirge
what do i do with Lesser Ember of Fyr'alath and the greater one i ate the lesser...
it wont tell u what it does. it just increases ur chance to get it in the background
unreal onyx
m+ idk
boreal cipher
placebo
proper veldt
oh ok si just eat it and thats it then?
unreal onyx
oh ok si just eat it and thats it then?
yes
boreal cipher
surely Ill get it next week
wild mural
its happening
unreal onyx
or do you guys think blizz passively increases the drop chances over time into the season
unreal onyx
its happening
pls no
dense elbow
its happening
Yes... oh god yes...
heady saffron
single minded furry :O
wild mural
you know it
heady saffron
holllllly
quiet bramble
I love the idea of SMF but they never balance it enough. Plus there's the whole leggo
But there's hope
Blizzard stumbled into making 2h Frost best this tier
light stump
This is my second week playing. I could complete T30 4pc (from the two quests - Dreamsurge, Timerift) but costs a lot of flightstones and whelpling crests. I do have 2pc t31 already - better to focus on those?
Ty
quiet bramble
let fury tmog 2H into 1H and delete smf
you know what, I'd accept that
wild mural
no one would care
someone would care
dense elbow
no one would care
You know there is at least 3 ppl on this server alone, that would
wild mural
I've got better SMF weps than regular
unreal onyx
delete fury lootspec
make one called DPS and one called prot
wouldn't fuck over people that don't know as hard
versed plover
I've got better SMF weps than regular
I, too, have that sword at 489 and 483! But that shit is still worse than 2 hero track 2 handers, so what's the point
stark lance
delete fury lootspec
wouldn't that just be worse unless they also deleted SMF tho
wild mural
Yeah I have these
wild mural
delete smf
no
stark lance
🫡
proper veldt
what is smf?
unreal onyx
ya'll have hero track weapons?
wild mural
stop it you're not cooking
versed plover
ya'll have hero track weapons?
yes sir
clever path
its exe>ramp afaik
at 5 jugg stacks or sd
unreal onyx
im still rocking 450 ashk
syi I got smolderon weap on nm
again
but this time with speed so I can be fast 
versed plover
im still rocking 450 ashk
I just replaced mine last night with BRH weapon. Took 26 runs of BRH to get it.
versed plover
The only item I have left to farm is a Rezan's, was focusing BRH because weapon was a stronger dps upgrade, but now to enter a similar AD hell
unreal onyx
but unironically my 447 vers/mastery ring sims very well still
at least AD is easy and relatively fast
brh feels so slow + spiteful this week is so horrible
we truly are gaming
rotund ginkgo
wild mural
you underestimate the power of my cooking
past pivot
Blizz should transfer every SMFer over to those season of discovery servers and be done with that silliness once and for all.
versed plover
rotund ginkgo
next craft will probs be a ring for that sweet sweet well fed buff
chrome plover
you underestimate the power of my cooking
chrome plover
chrome plover
I'm sick of this place
dense elbow
Blizz should transfer every SMFer over to those season of discovery servers and ...
How about... no?
Make dagger warrior great again!
wild mural
Blizz should transfer every SMFer over to those season of discovery servers and ...
you're so wrong
chrome plover
you're so wrong
where main stat gem?
versed plover
heady saffron
i mean why bother getting crafted gear
chrome plover
u pay 16k for a belt enchant but no main stat gem
wild mural
my neck will probably be replaced
unreal onyx
everyone in here has this supposed "rare" trinket from fyrakk it seems
heady saffron
just rare, not super rare
dense elbow
I havent even seen it drop
wild mural
I don't
wild mural
It's dropped on both our kills
unreal onyx
just rare, not super rare
it says "very rare" no?
wild mural
but both went to DHs
rotund ginkgo
my guild mates didnt need it as much as i did it seems
chrome plover
every m+ trinket, brand, snake, branch
rotund ginkgo
cuz i won it
wild mural
Im gonna make SMF great again
rotund ginkgo
i just run augury and branch
modest condor
but no augury
i got a spare one, you need it?
dense elbow
Im gonna make SMF great again
We stand behind you! 
modest condor
trade for signet brand
unreal onyx
ez leecheroo
chrome plover
we're boosting normal now
rotund ginkgo
unreal onyx
people buy normal?
rotund ginkgo
fuck council am i right guys
unreal onyx
is that worth it even
chrome plover
people buy anything
hasty tree
do I need to kill endboss in nhc and lfr or is only hc enough for Full chances?
rotund ginkgo
or 1:30 if ur in a group of acoustic boosters like public communities
fickle bone
soo whos got some leggo
dense elbow
the guys who got kicked
chrome plover
or 1:30 if ur in a group of acoustic boosters like public communities
didnt take us long last week
rotund ginkgo
thats full clear?
chrome plover
a few boosters wont change much
rotund ginkgo
YOULL BE SURPRISED KEK
its mostly public community raid leaders taking 10 min breaks between fuckin pulls to discuss whatever bullshit they have on their mind
or raids starting 15-20 mins late because fuck all
frozen tartan
Finally hit the 200k sim dps lel
frozen tartan
chrome plover
thats full clear?
just the timer for each boss
chrome plover
took 40 maybe
rotund ginkgo
i assume raid was 1hr or less
chrome plover
total
chrome plover
wait chawie ur EU?
ya
rotund ginkgo
ill be honest chawie idk if i can listen to someone with grey council logs
are u trustworthy?
u probably got duck patrol
rotund ginkgo
u probably got duck patrol
.
oh rip u died on them
i mean yeah i assumed u died
first weeks logs dont really matter anyway
chrome plover
nah it's just cos i play perma duck
frank dawn
How dare you die the first week you do a fight
brittle crow
id like it a lot more if i could perma duck
rotund ginkgo
nah it's just cos i play perma duck
i didnt knowif it was that or deaths
i legit wrote "u probably duck patrol"
meager void
Wait there's a legit perma duck patrol role to fill in Mythic Council?
meager void
Oh ima dibs that so bad
chrome plover
makes fight way easy
shell jackal
yo boys
if you get a 3/9 mythic vault, that doesnt mean any item from mythic can drop, right
young swan
correct
shell jackal
only from the 3 you've killed?
rotund ginkgo
correct
shell jackal
just double-checking, couldn't recall
chrome plover
and tier
rotund ginkgo
u have to kill the boss to unlock the drop chance
once u did that it can drop from any slot
like, any raid slot
young swan
pretty sure they changed that last tier
chrome plover
ye
sudden tusk
yeah its so you cant cheese vualt loot
young swan
now its if u kill nymue + gnarlroot
u can get anything from in between those bosses
@shell jackal
radish lied to u
young swan
yes
young swan
wdym
shell jackal
oh
young swan
they changed it like right after vault
shell jackal
pog as fuck
young swan
im not finding the notes
shell jackal
we killed the first 3 so nothin major
just wanted to know what i could expect in vault
rotund ginkgo
doing sukuna next week xan ima send pics
tardy lark
sakuna 🍆
split coyote
Still in thrones hell trying to get the trinket
oblique trail
Escaped throne cage after 20 runs
heavy folio
was there any other orange axe drop confirmed btw?
chrome plover
brh is easy most are +2 or +3
oblique trail
it's just hold W and big pulls
covert blaze
I don't even find it hard I just hate the place
chrome plover
but for some reason it feels more mindnumbing than atal did
i did 30~ runs for rezans
chrome plover
yeah
oblique trail
Throne is such a dog dungeon
chrome plover
i got both throne trinkets from just random 17-19s week 1
so thankful
fuck that place
chrome plover
I got schooled
in my last one
first loss on overall this week
but I was typing in skyhold mid key 
oblique trail
Peaked 370k in Throne today
fast mural
no neck no sword 20+runs
oblique trail
Still trying to get higher
chrome plover
no neck no sword <:critcake:984549832511344640> 20+runs
I got the wep quite fast but now im jailed for neck
oblique trail
no Mirror to truly cheese last boss either
fast mural
i got 2 389 weapons so sword is only for transmog now
chrome plover
oblique trail
not returning
split coyote
no Mirror to truly cheese last boss either
Wait what, what's the tech? asking for a friend
fast mural
but im using rezans
chrome plover
use mirror when boss goes big
oblique trail
pop Mirror as you get the damage buff
chrome plover
when you go big*
split coyote
lulz
oblique trail
And Mirror will solo Ozumat
fast mural
mirror is amazing for execute
chrome plover
ur lil minion guy owns
split coyote
gotta start doing this, I usually just pick up my phone when we go big
oblique trail
Unironically during Forti in my premade group, we've perfectly timed killing the 1st phase after 1:25-1:30
So I have my CDs on pull and for Ozu
chrome plover
yeah haha it happens to me in there too
dont even have to be a cringer and hold cds
restive peak
So what have we all found best for M+ trinky wise? I have brand, rezans, sandglass, mirror, gore crusted and (obviously running) ocean
gilded pawn
i was going to say that you can just count the bshout damage
chrome plover
I'm using ocean/crab in fortified
oblique trail
I think Augury + Might/Mirror
gilded pawn
but you got a prot war
chrome plover
it feels good i think
split coyote
I would assume Augury+Ocean?
chrome plover
if you have augury it's for sure augury/ocean
young mulch
hey guys double wafting is good for dungeons?