fury

[slim coral]

got 3 lesser drops and 1 one of the big ones

about to kill heroic fyrakk wish me luck on the lego

[rotund steppe]

gl!

[slim coral]

[rotund steppe]

i get it!

already waisted all my luck for my lifetime

[south kayak]

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU

[dry notch]

May the Odin grants you drop

[weak tulip]

vault of disapointment

[rotund steppe]

no leggo

rip

[south kayak]

good weapon

[weak tulip]

those trinkets are good ?

[sick thistle]

i wish i had gotten a weapon in my vault

[weak tulip]

wish had the 4th p in my vault

[oblique trail]

You get a catalyst charge this week

So pick either the helmet/legs if you don't have those tier pieces and catalyst it, if you already have 2x myth track weapons

[weak tulip]

the sword is the best choice ?

or that serpent ?

[oblique trail]

If you don't have a myth track weapon yes

The serpent is shit

[rotund steppe]

damn what weaps u rocking bonzai

[oblique trail]

honestly

[sick thistle]

disappoinmted also

[spark maple]

ill take all those

[spare otter]

that ring is great

[rotund steppe]

i was expecting a double lego edit lmao

[south kayak]

vault got that 4p

[oblique trail]

too lazy

[spare otter]

im still farming for that ring 💀

[south kayak]

3p*

[sick thistle]

i am simming right now but i think i take the ring

[subtle lagoon]

bruh I still have shit weapons and 447 rings

[rotund steppe]

bro

im using 441 anvil

save me

[oblique trail]

Tainted seal is omega giga for Fury

[subtle lagoon]

[rotund steppe]

wait

why im using anvil

i still hae my blood

[south kayak]

I have champion tier sadge

[oblique trail]

go farm 17s

[gritty perch]

Need help guys, tier helm at 489 while on bis arms profile you dont use tier or 480 neck with 500 crit and 1500 haste, when I upgrade the neck in raidbots they sim the same

[south kayak]

its an alt, can't get into 17s unless i join with my guildies

[oblique trail]

unlucky

[south kayak]

1800 io now

[steel shard]

fucking blizzard and spaget code

mald eu won race to world first

so now we cant get lego

[south kayak]

lmao

[serene vessel]

wait why cant eu?

[steel shard]

[late night]

fake drop leggo in chest ?

[rotund steppe]

nah blitz is jut a small indie company

[steel shard]

nope

eu is bugged

[oblique trail]

hm

If it's the case

[steel shard]

no bad luck things

[oblique trail]

it explains why I didn't get an ember from the normal fyrakk kill

[steel shard]

drop

yep

[south kayak]

Where is that from? how do you know EU is bugged

[steel shard]

its bugged

[rotund steppe]

oh

[serene vessel]

lmao

thats hilarious

[steel shard]

because we get

[serene vessel]

fuck eu

[rotund steppe]

i got one form normal fyrrak

[steel shard]

no bad luck protection

[spare otter]

lool ofc eu is bugged

[barren walrus]

morning, so im changing to new 4p set, and it shows like 12k decrease in dps, ive checked the stats both sets provide and the difference in stats is not that big, is that normal?

[rotund steppe]

rip EU

[spare otter]

why wouldnt it be

[steel shard]

punished for not having clickers

any nickpriest fans

[south kayak]

Doesn't make any sense

why is Eu bugged

[steel shard]

spaget

code

[south kayak]

well they need to fix it asap

[oblique trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1006707125315194950/1178478862108196894/Discord_LBLU0RFs7O.gif

[south kayak]

they have to

[spare otter]

i mean you'll just get some in the mail surely

[serene vessel]

the nickspriest thing is so overblown

his wasnt even the one blowing up

[steel shard]

yea i know

its a good meme tho

innit

[gritty perch]

anyone?

[south kayak]

can't you key bind this

[steel shard]

but still bro

[south kayak]

keybind*

[steel shard]

clicking it?

[oblique trail]

you can

[steel shard]

cmon

[oblique trail]

it's incredibly common

to do that

And it's crazy

that a RWF raider doesn't do it

[south kayak]

I click it actually lol

[serene vessel]

tbh i dont have any extra action buttons keybound

[south kayak]

[serene vessel]

but im also not a rwf

[south kayak]

yeah same

[oblique trail]

you should not be proud

[spare otter]

i did that in shadowlands

[rotund steppe]

i dont run seeds

[oblique trail]

to be a clicker

[rotund steppe]

[spare otter]

everyone started flaming me in vc

:/

[south kayak]

clicking an extra fight action button is nothing

[serene vessel]

only thing ive ever had to click and they've never been relevant in fights b4

[oblique trail]

nice wipe bro because you missed dropping your seed with blaze

[south kayak]

I'm not doing seeds

[weak tulip]

hands or chest ? some amount of dps

[oblique trail]

it's the principle

just bind it

[weak tulip]

for the 4th p

[serene vessel]

most of the time extra action buttons are for like, world quests

its never been relevant to a fight b4

[south kayak]

Ok for you I will

[rotund steppe]

last seed i ran was in castle nathria with artificer

[oblique trail]

idc who you do it for

[serene vessel]

at least not one ive been a aprt of

[south kayak]

there was the eye fight

in SoD

chains

[serene vessel]

didnt raid then

🙂

[south kayak]

i never missed a click

[oblique trail]

It's just an excuse "but we've barely had mechanics like this in raid fights" meanwhile there have been a handful of fights with it

Unless you're just never trusted to do mechanics because of it

[serene vessel]

i skipped BFA and shadowlands raids because they were dogshit expansions

[south kayak]

I played both

[serene vessel]

havent been fights with extra action buttons besides those 2 expacs

[south kayak]

BFA was fine but SL was boring

[oblique trail]

Which have been the past 2 expacs

But like

[serene vessel]

yeah i quit and came back for DF lmao

[oblique trail]

if you ahven't played then sure fair enough

[south kayak]

69

nice

[weak tulip]

does matter which one ?

[serene vessel]

no

[south kayak]

i don't think so

no

[oblique trail]

no

[south kayak]

take either

[oblique trail]

assuming they're the same upgrade track

then it doesn't matter

you'll use both

[slim coral]

lego didn't drop

[south kayak]

one thing im sad about wheen it comes to fury is the fact that this 4p and the talents we have to use for it made us worse in m+

[oblique trail]

only piece you'd flex is legs or helmet

if you care about min/maxing

[serene vessel]

ur EU it cant

[rotund steppe]

[south kayak]

hes NA

[slim coral]

?

[oblique trail]

we're not bad in m+

at all

[serene vessel]

wait what?

[eager wraith]

TFW you lose every item in normal and hc but win LFR tier token

[south kayak]

I'm pretty sure Baze is NA

[rotund steppe]

EU bugged

[serene vessel]

Baze lives in the UK im like at least 40% sure

[south kayak]

unless im wrong

[slim coral]

I'm in NA brother

[serene vessel]

wtf

[south kayak]

yep

i was right

[serene vessel]

were u born UK?

[south kayak]

did u get the BLP at least

[eager wraith]

Why cant it drop in EU btw

[slim coral]

No

[south kayak]

bug

[slim coral]

what is that

[serene vessel]

wtf for some reason I thought u were UK

[rotund steppe]

the ember

[eager wraith]

how do we know if its bugged

[south kayak]

The protection ember

[slim coral]

yeah I got lots of them

I used them all on kill and then I got one after

[south kayak]

beacuse no one in EU is getting the embers

lol

[eager wraith]

ok so my warrior should AFK untill sunday

[south kayak]

yeah i'd do the same

until they fix it

[rotund steppe]

i mean they gotta also fix the greater ember

[thick niche]

So.. I have myth shoulder or champion head. And 1 catalyst charge. Aaaaaandd raidbots says me that 476 tier set head is better then 489 tier set shoulder and that I need use catalyst for hands. Will it be okay? 🤔

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9NNZ34chQAzYvoaCAuJQVB

[steel shard]

? obv myth shoulders

what

[olive wraith]

You already have myth shoulders?

[thick niche]

sim say another thing and that bother me too)

[thick niche]

nope

they are in volt

like a champ head

[olive wraith]

Well sim doesn’t take into account the track they’re on

And their max ilvl

[oblique trail]

The reason your helmet is a bigger increase, is because you're swapping a 441 helmet for a 476 one

And otherwise swapping 470 shoulders for 489

[south kayak]

rather get helm if it's that big idk

[oblique trail]

It's simply a case of a massive ilvl jump

[rotund steppe]

same

[oblique trail]

why?

are you silly

it's a champ track

[south kayak]

I am

[rotund steppe]

well i did that

[south kayak]

oh

i thought it was hero track

nvm then

[rotund steppe]

oh

[oblique trail]

get the myth shoulders

and go farm m+ for a helmet

[thick niche]

got it

[south kayak]

farm AD

[rotund steppe]

my case i had a 441 helm and got some myth tier helm

[south kayak]

it has a helm

[thick niche]

ty guys <3

[south kayak]

is AD helm the best one?

i don't think there's a haste mastery one

[oblique trail]

AD or Council

Council of Dreams is low haste high mast

which is omega for Fury

[south kayak]

yeah but u can't farm it

[oblique trail]

no

but it's there

otherwise from m+ it's just AD

[south kayak]

i never seen it drop

[rotund steppe]

we still using haste mast?

[light stump]

First vault this season, haven't had much time to play yet. Do I take the Hero Waist (473 Greatbelt of disruption) or Champion 460 cataclysmic signet brand? I'm still on 424s in trinkets (so no effects).

So I'm assuming big DPS difference with trinket, but would be replaced sooner than belt. Thoughts?

[south kayak]

actually

[oblique trail]

If you want to ultra min/max

[oblique trail]

mastery anything

[south kayak]

yeah until it gets too much and sims tell you otherwise

[rotund steppe]

yeah my sims want mastery vers

[viscid vessel]

damn they slapped me with such dilemma

[south kayak]

what's your mastery at banezi?

[rotund steppe]

i want crit mastery lmao

[south kayak]

60%?

[oblique trail]

idk like

58%

or something

[olive wraith]

Ya my sims want me crit mast

[oblique trail]

I'm not logged in

[south kayak]

it was like that for me pre season until i had to change gear

[olive wraith]

Brand easy

[south kayak]

[slim coral]

brand is the easy choice

[south kayak]

now it's 46%

[oblique trail]

Do HC clear first

Then choose

[cedar topaz]

So if the sim says you can do 168K dps, how close are you getting to that?

[south kayak]

don't do Hc clear if you're EU

[oblique trail]

well

when they fix it

do a HC clear

then pick

[eager wraith]

HAHA my DH got 2x Tier in LFR in 3 bosses what the heeeellll

[south kayak]

gz

2p is pretty strong for dh

[eager wraith]

HC and normal i got nothing, 0 items xD

ye now i can catalyze 4 set

[south kayak]

dhs 4p is similar to fury's

2p big damage, 4p cdr

banezi did u see the shadowlands spells animation changes

for dh

[oblique trail]

no

[south kayak]

fel the hunt looks so cool

https://nether.wowhead.com/video-stream/293479-jez-the-hunt?dataEnv=1&locale=0

[clever path]

today's a good day

https://i.imgur.com/1s1aRtb.jpeg

[south kayak]

Congratulations

[viscid vessel]

what's wrong with hc?

[south kayak]

Can't get the embers that give you bad drop protection for axe

[serene moat]

Is Gorehowl better than Bonecrusher?

[south kayak]

on EU

[abstract dirge]

it's bugged. embers arent dropping (perhaps axe as well)

[clever path]

yep

[south kayak]

yeah if that can't drop then the axe for sure can't

[viscid vessel]

huh

[clever path]

but the embers are a random drop

[south kayak]

Hoping for a weapon from vault, at work rn 🙏

[viscid vessel]

thanks for letting me know

[oblique trail]

They should be guaranteed to drop a greater ember from Fyrakk

[south kayak]

I mean they are but they are guaranteed to drop from fyrakk

and they can't

[oblique trail]

From what I understood

[clever path]

oh ok

[sullen dove]

i dont think i got a greater of fyrakk

not that i remember

think just 2 lessers

[south kayak]

EU?

[sullen dove]

uh no

[radiant coyote]

Vault of dissapointment strikes again

[south kayak]

so you're NA and no greater?

well, now i don't know what's real and not

lol

[gaunt zephyr]

At least you got enough belt until next expac 👍

[olive wraith]

Is it a guaranteed drop on fyrak?

[south kayak]

Well, EU doesn't seem to be dropping lesser ones though

[clever path]

theres no wowhead post tho

[elder epoch]

The 2 axe drops in vault are fake right?

[sullen dove]

i could be wrong i kinda just brain afk after boss died and no leggo but im like 80% sure i didnt get a greater

[south kayak]

yes

[elder epoch]

Surely it doesnt drop from vault

[oblique trail]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/bad-luck-protection-on-legendary-axe-and-how-it-works-1724426

[elder epoch]

[oblique trail]

Per this

It should be guaranteed from Fyrakk

[south kayak]

Check it

[light stump]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5fUxsKfnhsfppd5g4kHtHS

What do I pick? I'm hoping to outgear champion track soon-ish, but might be too big to pass?

[abstract dirge]

wowhead post says it's a guarantee from HC fyrakk

[tropic atlas]

so last boss is bugged and doesn't drop the thing? maybe legendary on mail

[oblique trail]

The Brand will last you longer than the belt

Also why are you simming 10 min

Just do 5 min

[clever path]

The cumulative increase to your drop chances will now be available from all difficulties and will be directly represented by players receiving a Greater Ember of Fyr’alath when defeating Fyrakk.

any dif

[south kayak]

recieving

no chance

[light stump]

just picked the default, not on purpose. Will fix ty

[fathom wolf]

After the opener do we wait for everything to align again or do we just send on CD?

[south kayak]

10 isn't the default iirc

[oblique trail]

It's not, 5 min is

[keen kindle]

Send on cd

[quasi river]

my tiny pea brain can't work out openers with the 4pc, how do I do it? I know I press OF before Avatar, but when do I press Reck and Spear/Roar?

[oblique trail]

Assuming Dancing Blades
Reck + Charge -> Ramp -> OF -> Spear/Roar -> BB -> Ramp -> Avatar -> BB -> Ramp and so on

[south kayak]

I charge > Reck

then OF

Rampage then OF yes

my bad

[serene moat]

Open with OF Instead
instead of ava sucks... Hate reck and ava being misaligned. Hate not pressing both via makro too

[oblique trail]

If you have Titanic Rage then you don't need to Ramp before OF, and could also just pop Reck right before OF

[south kayak]

They're not really misaligned if you're going to use them in that order again

[olive wraith]

It’s like 6 seconds max

[serene moat]

U won't, since of is not in 1,5 min intervals

[quasi river]

Right okay that's roughly what I was doing I was just getting confused. Gonna hit a dummy real quick before raid in 30 mins

[oblique trail]

To make it easier as well during your burst window, you just want to use your actual Avatar as the Avatar from Odyn's Fury runs out

The 2p bonus stacks so there's no worry there either

You just want to make sure you have full uptime of Avatar during your Spear window without clipping the bleed from OF

[quasi river]

Oh! That means you're clipping about 3 seconds or something of the OF attack speed buff, is that right?

[south kayak]

is the bleed from OF big

[oblique trail]

Something like that

But clipping Dancing Blades isn't a big deal

Dancing Blades only extends to 13 seconds max

It's mostly just the bleed/Avatar uptime you play around, Dancing Blades is just a bonus

[serene moat]

8k ST sim bonus for Critcake

[oblique trail]

You are misunderstanding what he said in that video then

It's an 8k ST sim bonus compared to Titanic Rage

[serene moat]

Yes

[oblique trail]

Which is not what I'm talking about

[fathom wolf]

WTB them just making buffs/debuffs stack accordingly so you can blow your load all at once with this stinky tier set.

[serene moat]

U r saying clipping a few sec of dancing blades is not much of a deal

[oblique trail]

It's not

Compared to keeping up Avatar through all of your Spear window

And making sure all of your empowered BBs are buffed by Avatar

Which is also exactly what the sims do

[serene moat]

Why does the one exclude the other?

[south kayak]

because it's a talent choice

wait what

[oblique trail]

?

I'm confused by your question

[south kayak]

ignore me, I'm confused

[oblique trail]

It's simply just the optimal way of doing your cooldown window

[serene moat]

U don't have to clip to get the BB into spear, do u?

[oblique trail]

The Dancing Blades yes

[sage hornet]

you don't want to delay bb's, so yes

you have to clip

[oblique trail]

If you also want to keep your Avatar during all of the Spear window

It really isn't a big deal losing a couple seconds of DB

By comparison

[south kayak]

can u fit all your BBS inside spear with pi

[oblique trail]

Idk someone who gets PI might know

[serene moat]

Don't play spear at all.

[south kayak]

who is getting pi in your guild?

Sin rogue?

[oblique trail]

An Assa rogue

[south kayak]

i actually hate playing sin

i play outlaw

I would it get it if I went sin

but i just dislike the playstyle

[spare otter]

so what you just avatar when bleed runs out and you get all empowered bbs in the window?

[oblique trail]

Spear sucks in a lot of scenarios but it's still the best for ST fights

[serene moat]

TR doing the same job as spear, just easier.

[south kayak]

Doesn't spear do bigger burst in aoe than TR

[oblique trail]

You Avatar as the Avatar from your OF runs out

The bleed will have run out by then

[serene moat]

Top logs at volcros are roar logs

[oblique trail]

Assuming everything gets hit by Spear and you're able to stay in the buff yes you'll do more damage with it

[serene moat]

Not much of a difference

[oblique trail]

But that's quite unrealistic in a lot of M+ scenarios

[south kayak]

yeah there's a lot of mobs doing crazy shit

jumping around

[oblique trail]

Never said it was better by a lot, but it is

[south kayak]

parkour

[oblique trail]

And if you want to be optimal, you use what's best

[sage hornet]

blatantly false

[serene moat]

Tell the top loggers.

[sage hornet]

btw

[oblique trail]

The raid fights where you'd use Spear, it's easy to stay in it

[knotty ravine]

I already have Cataclysmic Signet Brand and Mirror, and my legs are crafted. Do I take Rezan, the mediocre waist at hero track, or is this the first socket of the season?

[sage hornet]

go look

[south kayak]

rezan

rezan

rezan

[knotty ravine]

Rezan better than mirror and brand for m+?

[fringe vale]

rezan is way more rare tahn brand

[spare otter]

i got rezan but i feel like it's really mid tbh

[fringe vale]

brand ull see many drop

[south kayak]

sim it but it's really good for ST

like bis

he already has brand

he said so

[spare otter]

isnt augury still better for st

[knotty ravine]

Yeah I have Brand and Mirror rn

[junior gale]

brand is not good for M+

[knotty ravine]

I play m+ only, basically

[south kayak]

Well, I'd take rezan's here because it's hero track and really good

[junior gale]

its like anvil u dont want to lose stacks

[spare otter]

idk brand always does more dmg than rezan in m+

[oblique trail]

Brand sucks dick in M+ if you ever drop stacks

[south kayak]

^

[knotty ravine]

Alright, I'll take Rezan I guess 🙂 thanks all

[oblique trail]

And a fair amount of dungeons force you to drop it because of downtime

[south kayak]

how long does the stack last

after combat

[knotty ravine]

15

[oblique trail]

15 seconds but decays fast

[patent dust]

Branch is baller for M+, gives you a bit of aoe burst

[south kayak]

so it's worse than anvil

[sage hornet]

I've been swapping out brand for branch in most content

yeah

[south kayak]

in eerms of that

terms

[oblique trail]

If I had the choice I'd just use Might of the Ocean with Augury

[serene moat]

Okay this was the state of Monday

[oblique trail]

But I got neither

[south kayak]

I hope you get it this week

[junior gale]

I still have yet to get a might aswell

[patent dust]

Any have the leggo yet? or at least started on the quest?

[south kayak]

banezi what boss are you progging

[junior gale]

gotten crab shit 4 times

[oblique trail]

Nymue

[south kayak]

bis avoidance

[oblique trail]

only had like 15 pulls on it or something

We raid very late into the reset

[south kayak]

how is that going

[oblique trail]

idk

[south kayak]

so you killed larodar?

[oblique trail]

for me it's fine

no

it's Nymue into Larodar

[south kayak]

I see

good luck

[oblique trail]

Idk who goes Larodar first

but it's a possibility

[south kayak]

i was thinking in terms of hc lol

since we did

but yeah that's probably not a good idea

is it plenty different than hc?

[sullen dove]

???

can anyone explain this

[oblique trail]

Nymue? Yes

[south kayak]

cataclysm garrosh in dragon form

[sullen dove]

real

[serene vessel]

r those nipples?

[oblique trail]

One more add per intermission that you can only go to once through the fight, have to soak a red flower multiple times per phase otherwise you wipe

[south kayak]

holy shit

is that your character's skin

on the dragon??

[oblique trail]

more lines you can't pass through

[south kayak]

LMAO

[sullen dove]

ya

well not me, a friend whos stream in watching

he used a sky mirror on me

cuz im the human and he's not

and idk

[south kayak]

I can recognize a human skin anywhere

that's a human male chest

[sullen dove]

it is human skin yea

[south kayak]

that sounds weird when i say it like that

[sullen dove]

but he sky mirrored me

[oblique trail]

get help

[south kayak]

lmao

[serene vessel]

i recognize that bulge moment

[heady wedge]

any weakauras to track the new tier?

[south kayak]

you don't have to track it

not really

[oblique trail]

You don't need to track it, but if you absolutely have to, search on Wago.io

[south kayak]

it's passive

[oblique trail]

And you should be able to find one

[strange drift]

maaaan

tough fucking choice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847755100612853780.gif?size=48&name=think&quality=lossless

[south kayak]

take augury

NOW

[strange drift]

yeah is what i thought xD

[kindred grail]

Yo guys am i safe to do Nm fyrakk at least i just read the msg on the embers i'm half waked up

[south kayak]

you can farm that hero track weapon

anywhere

[flat sapphire]

Augury is not as farmable

[south kayak]

u can't farm hc augury

[flat sapphire]

[south kayak]

or normal

[strange drift]

fair

[south kayak]

idk

normal augury is on hero track, right?

so that means hc is myth?

[flat sapphire]

I got bad things on my vault

[spare otter]

yes

mythic is 496

lol

[south kayak]

sheesh

like axe?

[spare otter]

yep

[south kayak]

neat

i'll never get it tho

[spare otter]

same...

[south kayak]

on mythic at least

not a mythic raider

[spare otter]

tbf im going for cutting edge for the first time

so hopefully

[south kayak]

i got my first and only CE in SoD

[spare otter]

season of discovery?

that aint even out

[south kayak]

[spare otter]

ur insane

[flat sapphire]

[south kayak]

are you gonna play sod

[flat sapphire]

He just that good

[spare otter]

idk maybe

[ancient badger]

vault is pleasant today, gl for yours guys !

[south kayak]

[flat sapphire]

When does it come out?

[spare otter]

seems kinda dead everything gets deleted

[south kayak]

I will for sure, very exciting

[south kayak]

tomorrow

[olive wraith]

If it ain’t leggo in vault it ain’t good

[flat sapphire]

Oh dam

I'll want to try it

[south kayak]

sounds very fun

i'll probabnly level all classes to 25 lol

should be fast

[spare otter]

ehhhh

[flat sapphire]

25 isn't bad at all

[olive wraith]

What even is SoD

[spare otter]

25 is pretty long

[south kayak]

Season of Discovery

[spare otter]

thats like a days playtime no?

[olive wraith]

I mean what’s the point

[south kayak]

no it isn't

believe me

[olive wraith]

Is it just classic with a twist

[maiden ingot]

Whelp.. the shit alt officially has a better weapon than the main.

[south kayak]

There's new runes that give you passives and new abilities

like Paladin has crusader strike

Divine storm

Warriors get warbringer, some interesting stuff

victory rush

enha dual wield 1h

[spare otter]

beta test

basically

[south kayak]

there's phases, in first phase you're capped at level 25

with a BFD raid

brand new

[spare otter]

yea i wasnt exactly impressed with that raid tbf

but it does look fun to chill in for a bit ig

[flat sapphire]

I haven't actually understood how to get this new shiny axe tho do you only have 1 chance a week or how does it work

[south kayak]

Great weapon

[spare otter]

pretty much yeah?

then theres the bad luck protection drops

which idek how that works eitehr

[azure coyote]

22 EB..... why do i exist

[flat sapphire]

So if I do it on hc I cant get it if i do a normal run

[spare otter]

battle shout

[spare otter]

apparently it consumes the chance for normal as well

idk if thats true or not tho

[flat sapphire]

Dam alright

Yes It sounded like it but I didn't understand if that was true or not

[south kayak]

you exist to give way for havoc dhs to do damage

it is what it s

is

[viscid vessel]

if you do it on hc first it consumes and combines all lower difficulty chances

[sharp tartan]

With the 10.2 4 set, do we just use odyns fury and recklessness/roar/avatar on cooldown and allow them desync? Or should we hold reck/roar/avatar until the next odyns fury to stack them?

[sage hornet]

Yeah, this

[maiden ingot]

And I spoke too soon. From disaster to sick af. Gorehowl on Alt, Augury on Main

[south kayak]

What dungeon is this sir

[south kayak]

pog

what's your main

[oblique trail]

read the message

[south kayak]

I am blind

[hallow forge]

is the mirror trinkit any good for fury ?

[south kayak]

it is

[maiden ingot]

Both Warriors. One's just in 447 still.

[south kayak]

2 for axe?

lol

[sharp tartan]

Can anyone help me with this pls?

[frosty orchid]

I get the Flame Trinket from Vault

[azure coyote]

i have 2 489 weps equipped and im still not good enough T__T

[flat sapphire]

So if I do on normal after I csnt get it

[sage hornet]

Yes, you use them on cd

[maiden ingot]

Nah, not for axe. I just have two. I don't mind playing the same thing twice.

[viscid vessel]

exactly

[flat sapphire]

Ah okay

Less farming I don't mind

[frosty orchid]

i feel ya ... and i do have only 483 weps 😄

[south kayak]

Well, EB sucks for fury, there's a bunch of packs pulled together and you will lose out on damage without your 1.5 min cds

[sharp tartan]

ty ty

[south kayak]

while havoc has no cds really

they deal damage at all times

same as frost mage

so that's what it comes out as

[eternal sundial]

?

Wafflegodx

[south kayak]

They can reset their orbs fast

and keep up damage with their glacial spikes and the cleave from 4p

[flat sapphire]

But if I do it the other way around and start normal csm I get it in hc

[eternal sundial]

Veins and bl fake CDs same dam as outside of them

[south kayak]

well, it's not the same but it's still pretty good

better than fury outside of cds by far

[bold osprey]

Put socket on Crafted Vers wrists or 483 Elder Ring? :X not sure if I gonna switch from vers to shadowflame for more dps

[sage hornet]

From the way they’ve stated it, there should be no difference in odds between running normal then heroic vs. running just heroic

[eternal sundial]

FuRy aLwAYs hAs DamAgE cuZ of mEatCleaVeR

[sage hornet]

Is what it comes down to

[south kayak]

[eternal sundial]

Even arcane has more consistent aoe than frost does

[south kayak]

Losing Am and ravager was a big dump

for m+

[eternal sundial]

Cuz frost bursts around coldsnap 🫡

[south kayak]

they need to make OF way stronger

to make it balanced with am and ravager

so you can do damage using it without any cds

[frosty orchid]

so, you do LFR at first . then Normal .. then HC ...? so you have 3 chances a week to loot it .. or im wrong now? 😄

[south kayak]

You are right but it's still more than fury

outside of cds

and with

[eternal sundial]

Wrong

[south kayak]

fury is just not in a good place for m+

[sage hornet]

Again, the design is that you only need to run it at the highest difficulty you can accomplish

The odds should be identical

[south kayak]

It will be better when they nerf the outliners like havoc

in m+

[frosty orchid]

aye thx!

[south kayak]

speaking of which, when are the nerfs

[wild mural]

lesgoooo

[south kayak]

almost expected thee legendary there

[wild mural]

close gnough

[sage hornet]

If last season was any metric…

[eternal sundial]

Nerfs after w10 idk

[frosty orchid]

🙂

[south kayak]

Augury

[frosty orchid]

ya for sure

[river reef]

Weissagung der Urflamme

[bold osprey]

uuuuh

[south kayak]

SNACKO

it has been a while

[eternal sundial]

Is muggefugg supposed to be ossi kakao

I forgor

[frosty orchid]

no coffee

😄

[eternal sundial]

Close enough

[frosty orchid]

ya

[south kayak]

Sometimes items sound so cool in German

and sometimes they sound goofy

[flat sapphire]

That's what I'm trying to understand

[eternal sundial]

@flat sapphire

[flat sapphire]

Cause then id rather have 3 chsncrd than 1 higher

[late needle]

!

[buoyant salmon]

do heroic

other two dont matter

[eternal sundial]

On 4 warriors **

[south kayak]

Am I gonna get this in my vault too?

[eternal sundial]

[buoyant salmon]

love the gamblers fallacy

[late needle]

gl!

[eternal sundial]

Choco where you on tswift?

[flat sapphire]

So it works like I think so I csm have 3 chances instead of 1

[south kayak]

Thanks

[eternal sundial]

What's csm 💀

[buoyant salmon]

end of p2

[eternal sundial]

Sheeeesh

[flat sapphire]

Me not being able to write can

[buoyant salmon]

we didnt raid at all yesterday or today

[frosty orchid]

thx. i do HC .. and when we have Fyrrak Myth down .. i will have the Axe already i guess 😄

[sage hornet]

Roll ten dice. Now roll one die ten times. What’s the difference?

[eternal sundial]

Tell them to aug u during add spawns on fyrakk ragey

[river reef]

One is severely more work than the others

[south kayak]

snacko are you still unsubbed

[river reef]

imagine subbing to wow

[south kayak]

[buoyant salmon]

aug shit is cringe

[south kayak]

what are you doing

[buoyant salmon]

i avoid it

[eternal sundial]

Very real

[river reef]

chilling

[eternal sundial]

Hooks are fucked

[south kayak]

aug needs to be removed from the game

[buoyant salmon]

i just say if im arms buff me at 35%

other than that idc man

[south kayak]

does anyone have the son of rat screenshot

[daring zephyr]

this and remove all of evoker while they're at it

[buoyant salmon]

1 sec

[flat sapphire]

Idk just sounded better

[daring zephyr]

dirty lizards crowding our tier token

[south kayak]

Holy

based

[frozen tartan]

this has to be some kind of joke... 3 rings.

[south kayak]

@daring zephyr Warbreaker?

[eternal sundial]

Real and true

[daring zephyr]

love me some warbreaker

[south kayak]

Stormlight

[last pier]

Ok so i have ALOT of trinks.. Mirror, MOTO, Porc Crab, and sandglass. Thoughts for purely M+? All same ilvl/track

[south kayak]

Have you read stormlight?

[south kayak]

[flat sapphire]

I still need a waist ans a neck cause they still 437 but I never get one

[south kayak]

classic

[random raptor]

Hey guys I'm trying to figure out our best opening rotation
Every log I look at is different in raid
Are we supposed to
Charge -> Reck/Pot -> Rampage -> OF -> Rampage -> BT?

[daring zephyr]

ive read just about everything in the Cosmere

[south kayak]

nice, I haven't yet

[daring zephyr]

havent caught up on his recent 2 special project books tho

[south kayak]

me too

What's your favorite book?

or trilogy

mine's Mistborn

[buoyant salmon]

charge reck get enraged odyns fury (if u used rampage to enrage use bloodbath/if you got a bloodthirst enrage use rampage now and then use bloodbath)

avatar a couple seconds after that

[daring zephyr]

probably mistborn first trilogy, it's between that and oathbringer

[south kayak]

Same actually wtf

[south kayak]

I have been reading Joe Abercombie books, have you heard of them? @daring zephyr

[modest talon]

what are the odds of this?

T_T

[random raptor]

Awesome thanks, I'm trying my best to get better
Its my first season playing from fresh so I really want to hit high io and clear the raid
Can I show you my stats to see if they look fine?

[sage hornet]

Getting to first time Oathbringer right now, enjoying it a lot

[random raptor]

I've only been playing 6 months now

[south kayak]

[buoyant salmon]

what are the odds of getting 2 items you already have in vault?

not that low

[modest talon]

3

[south kayak]

You'll be surprised @sage hornet

[modest talon]

never happened before

[south kayak]

[buoyant salmon]

your stats are probably fine, just sim whatever gear you have and your gems in top gear

and itll make the best decision for you

[south kayak]

I love robots

[buoyant salmon]

you can run a dropimizer as well and see what items are big upgrades and if they all have mastery on them, its safe to say you need more mastery

[random raptor]

ok I did that, I don't think I can do much else before raid now

yeah my mastery does seem a lot lower than last season

[buoyant salmon]

your stats are fine

[south kayak]

you do probably have more into crit and vers than last season though

[buoyant salmon]

much better than mine for fury

[random raptor]

A lot more crit/vers yeah

[south kayak]

you almost 20 ilvls higher than me

im 460 xd

it's just an alt tho

[random raptor]

I have the shadowflame patch for embellishment

we're still running that right?

[buoyant salmon]

i have no flightstones to upgrade

i should be like 483.2 or something

[south kayak]

farming flightstones sucks

[sage hornet]

Also having this issue

[random raptor]

I really want to get rid of the sandglass trinket lol

I get almost 8000 haste when it procs

[south kayak]

they need to increase the amount of flightstones from m+

seems negligible

[molten wing]

just go arms with that haste

[random raptor]

I'm scared of change lol

[random raptor]

I played one champ in league for 6 years, learning another spec scares me

[south kayak]

is sandglass better for fury

since it's more attacks

or is it normalized

[sterile shore]

Hei

[random raptor]

I'm getting pretty unlucky with rezans lol

[south kayak]

does anyone think the helm looks like the doom helm

from doom guy

[sterile shore]

Can someone help me to choose between a trinket and tier gloves high ilvl ?

[south kayak]

what the fuck is wrong with your mastery

[buoyant salmon]

i have 2 thousand mastery

lol

[south kayak]

damn

that's the wrost mastery on a fury i've ever seen

[buoyant salmon]

my boots are crafted with mastery

[south kayak]

worst

[buoyant salmon]

well ium arms spec there

its like 35 or some shit as fury

[south kayak]

with that mastery you're 470 instead of 483

that is arms indeed

[sterile shore]

Is trinket Branch of the Tormented Ancient good on Fury?

[south kayak]

are you not playing arms?

seems like you are an arms player

[sterile shore]

I already have Rezan and Might Oceaan

[buoyant salmon]

i dont want to reinvent the wheel with arms on tindral

[random raptor]

heroic cata signet brand nice

[south kayak]

how's tindral going

[buoyant salmon]

its hard

[south kayak]

i heard

are you playing aoe for it

for roots

[buoyant salmon]

no

[frosty orchid]

the Struggle is real 😄

[last pier]

lmfao yup im in the same boat but for trinks atm

[modern void]

went for the incarnate helm, better stats and i would still have 4 set

[sterile shore]

Any help here to choose between 2 items? 😄

[wild mural]

using my morning well

[viscid vessel]

isnt the drop bugged or is it only hc?

[sterile shore]

😭

[buoyant salmon]

what drop

[viscid vessel]

bad luck protection doesnt drop apparently on hc

[buoyant salmon]

not true

[south kayak]

are you EU?

[wild mural]

Yessir

[south kayak]

the bad luck protection doesn't drop on EU for some reason

better do it when it's fixed

[sterile shore]

Trinket Branch of the Tormented Ancient Hero 467 1/6 and tier gloves 480ilvl 1/4

[south kayak]

means maybe legendary doesn't drop

[wild mural]

oh wait really

[sterile shore]

I have trinkets Rezan and Ocean already 463

[south kayak]

looks like it

[sterile shore]

Both 4/8

[wild mural]

wtf good game blizz

eu beta testers

[sharp tartan]

Those are the trinkets

[sterile shore]

For single or aoe ?

[sharp tartan]

Single

[sterile shore]

And aoe? 😄

[sharp tartan]

Go to Bloodmallet.com

[clever path]

idk pips outsimming augury

for me

pips goated trinket

(copium)

[sharp tartan]

If this boy isn't at least using bloodmallet I doubt he's gonna sim 😮

[clever path]

just saying that pips is goated

(i need signet badly)

[flat river]

for

[sharp tartan]

Pips simmed much lower for me than expected, it's just so individual based on stats

[flat river]

fucks

sake

no tier in vault

[buoyant salmon]

signet isnt very special if fights die too fast

[flat river]

second week in a row

[south kayak]

im sorry

[buoyant salmon]

u have guarenteed 3 piece now

go do lfr normal heroic

[south kayak]

if he hasn't already gotten one tier

from last week

and the week before

that's very unlucky

[shell jackal]

did an entire hc run, didn't get any of those shadowflame BLP things

and didn't get shit off fyrakk

[clever path]

ye but fights still do last pretty long

[south kayak]

are you EU?

[shell jackal]

ye

[unreal onyx]

Huge

[south kayak]

yeah there's a bug with EU

it doesn't drop

[shell jackal]

oh

that woulda been solid to know before i stayed up all night like an absolute degenerate

[wild mural]

hopefully they have that fixed before my raid tonight

:/

[shell jackal]

L

[south kayak]

big ask

[shell jackal]

maybe they'll mail us what we should have gotten and ill wake up to fyr'alath in my mail

[sharp tartan]

What if we accidentally catalysed our boots like I do every season because they just feel like they should be a tier slot and I always forget theyre not?

[unreal onyx]

Do we know if the blp things are capped or rng

[abstract dirge]

no, blizzard cant be bothered to explain it thoroughly

[south kayak]

What the fuck man

[shell jackal]

that's despairge af

[buoyant salmon]

unlucky diff

idk man

[south kayak]

skill issue

[unreal onyx]

I‘d catalyze boots just bc the set looks good

[clever path]

[south kayak]

i catalyzed my normal gloves so i can have full normal set

transmog

[clever path]

man i wish i got get these pieces without their transmog

ngl

[unreal onyx]

I catalyzed my myth track gloves from vault on my first charge

[south kayak]

Ngl i think this set looks so good

[frosty orchid]

hmm idk .. stats feel not rly good .. 😄

[south kayak]

don't @ me

[buoyant salmon]

its fine

[wild mural]

I've not catalysed a 2nd piece yet

[south kayak]

wtf this set looks so much like the doom armor from the doom games

especially that color

has to be intended

no one can tell me otherwise

[frosty orchid]

😄

[unreal onyx]

Real except helm

[south kayak]

that's why I don't transmog it

[unreal onyx]

And sleeves are weird on some gloves

[wild mural]

twinning mastery

wooo

[south kayak]

@unreal onyx check this on undead

[south kayak]

41% haste, damn son

[gray parrot]

How many people have posted getting the lego today in here? heard its bugged on eu

[south kayak]

yes it is

most likey

[frosty orchid]

ya but you have 40% haste too ....

[unreal onyx]

That goes hard

[gray parrot]

I'm talking NA anyways

[south kayak]

the helm cover owns

[wild mural]

Im fricken gaming over here

[south kayak]

versa lmao

[wild mural]

[flat river]

yeah xD

my mastery is shit though

[unreal onyx]

Real, that’s why I love the CN chests too

[south kayak]

you have similar stats to my outlaw rogue

that's how bad it is

[clever path]

god damn my stats are the exact opposite

20 something crit

20 something haste

50 something mastery

30 something vers

[wild mural]

Idk if my stats are good or bad

but Im having fun

[clever path]

idk

[wild mural]

so who cares

[south kayak]

they're fine

there's no bad stats specificall

but u do want more mastery

probably

[wild mural]

It'll come

ig

[south kayak]

surely

[unreal onyx]

What are this weeks m+ affixes?

[south kayak]

Same, doesn't seem to fit this set tho

or does it

[south kayak]

spiteful

something else

[unreal onyx]

Fuck that

[buoyant salmon]

volcanic

free week

[clever path]

spiteful = signet maxxing

[wild mural]

using shit liike cause aint go owt else

[south kayak]

spiteful sucks for outlaw since we want to resetalth

[wild mural]

i remember playing spiteful weeks as sub

[clever path]

good

[wild mural]

[south kayak]

see you next week

[south kayak]

not sure sub is that good anymore

idk

[wild mural]

sub >>>>>

[south kayak]

you need 4p to be rocking on sub

[wild mural]

i

ohave 4p

[south kayak]

on rogue?

[wild mural]

yessiree

[south kayak]

neat

how is it going

[wild mural]

season 1 called, it wants its 4p back

[south kayak]

that was so bad

the new one is much better

by far

[wild mural]

I have 4p on every class

now

[south kayak]

the old one?

for sure

[flat river]

flex

[wild mural]

season 1 on a few classes, season 2 on a bunch and season 3 on warrior and nearly druid

[south kayak]

season 1 lmao

[wild mural]

4p is 4p

[south kayak]

true