LMAO
#fury
serene vessel
quartz viper
Well, most of us are replying to the "Stat weights tell me to get crit so I guess I should be dumping haste from 30% to something lower". Telling us "I do not know why my dps is so ass" doesn't give any information to help. Unless I missed your sim.
narrow steppe
I dont even believe its bad you're just simming without Hero/lust and other buffs nor potions
sick narwhal
i never look at stat weights.. i just click all my gear and let raidbots figure it out
rare fjord
and what do you - as a person capable of sentient critical thought - think the reason for that is?
olive wraith
lol not this again
quartz viper
Lmao
olive wraith
Because when all the “bis” gear is combined your potential dps is higher with the shoulders
rare fjord
i do?
young swan
theres other pieces available that are better than the tier helm and not many shoulder options that are better than the tier shoulders
gleaming crag
447 offhand to 473 atleast
left perch
447 offhand to 473 atleast
Is this a paladin vault in fury chat
winter shoal
Can raise that bad boy to 483, no?
clear light
I tried simming dungeon slice, gore-crusted gave me the boost
edgy widget
Ok, here's everything we know about the Embers bullshit so far
misty helm
Is the legendary a personal drop or group loot
young swan
hmm maybe u should read the article!
clear light
or should I grab item with single target tsim
quartz viper
hmm maybe u should read the article!
Too many words!
restive peak
Ok I was afk
Wtf is this bad luck protection item, any changes since article or we still in limbo?
I assume we'll be in limbo for days
frosty karma
if not every eligible player loots it, its pretty bad BLP, some get chance others dont 
dire badge
need blp for blp
meager void
sim is totally wrong. you need 1 target patchwerk 5min and you have 5. Seeing how confused you seem about this, I would rather read up on how these sims work before continuing as you are probably making several other mistakes. (ie. 440K dps should have been a huge red flag for you but it apparently wasn't)
charred flint
Can i inifitely farm Dreaming Crests?
serene vessel
Ok, here's everything we know about the Embers bullshit so far
https://www.wowh...
The annoying part about this new system is that it seems like there's a very real possibility you can kill all bosses up to Fyrakk, not get a lesser, and then ahve to stop and go do different difficulties to make sure you get a lesser.
Is it confirmed you'll always get a lesser if you full clear?
charred flint
Like, i know theres a 270 cap
but if i spend 50 can i get that 50 back or just next week
rare fjord
theres other pieces available that are better than the tier helm and not many sh...
sethelm+dazhak= 578mas 301vers 337 haste 273cr vs. setshoul+soulspun= 517mas 334ver 190has 449cr
i really dont see it
olive wraith
Too many words!
Apply some critical thought
topaz trellis
The annoying part about this new system is that it seems like there's a very rea...
I was asking this earlier since it implies you might want to do normal first
edgy widget
The annoying part about this new system is that it seems like there's a very rea...
literally nothing is confirmed my dude
that said, we don't even know how much they increase the chances by
rich storm
Well, most of us are replying to the "Stat weights tell me to get crit so I gues...
I posted two that seemed really low compared to what we should be doing / others have posted but I also messed up and had a dungeon build for the first raid sim, the 2nd sim was done with a dungeon slice for the M+ build. I'm just being frustrated about this dumb shit, apologies for being an idiot
edgy widget
or if they do at all, lmao
restive peak
W/e I'm bout to get leggo tn and solve all our problems bois
left perch
Is shadowmourne unironically easier to build and more useful/powerful? 
this feels like a circus
frosty karma
the superbloom step definitely feels like circus
restive peak
They immediately posted about the evoker 1, kinda annoying they haven't about ours
young swan
sethelm+dazhak= 578mas 301vers 337 haste 273cr vs. setshoul+soulspun= 517mas ...
you're asking about a difference of like 0.1%
frosty karma
as if i get people to run that shit with me 20 times
young swan
probably less
serene vessel
well right sorry, by confirmed I mean the people who have done enough testing (considering some has been done) have had everyone obtain the lesser before getting to fyrak
young swan
it literally doesnt matter
empty grove
that article made me want to vomit
narrow steppe
We're just not sure if its even that/is working is all
restive peak
Leggolinc coming in t minus 10 hrs bois
narrow steppe
I got a greater myself
gleaming crag
haha white
serene vessel
I got a greater myself
where from?
narrow steppe
normal fyrakk
young swan
I wouldnt bother using it yet
clever frost
anyone know total crest cost of crafting a max items now? like cloak, vers braces
young swan
just in case its broken
plucky ice
thnks for beta testing NA
narrow steppe
Yeah i did already and was talking to Archimtiros test some stuff out
inner zinc
So we shouldnt hoard those blp tokens is what it sounds like
young swan
gg
narrow steppe
So if it is broken you're all welcome for using mine to find out lol
serene vessel
archi's article states lessers are from mythic only, i wonder if tis just normal and heroic the drop chance is so low most people havent seen it
plucky ice
nobody knows shit about fk
restive peak
We know nothing otherwise
young swan
theres no point spending them until either: a) some confirmation comes out or b) its monday night
gleaming crag
so people that looted it are you NA or EUI
strong zephyr
anyone drop axe yet
narrow steppe
NA
restive peak
We know 3 things, 1. Taxes 2. Death 3. @young swan is a qtpi
restive peak
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❤️
serene vessel
A triumphant roar echoes from atop the Amirdrassil as Fyr'alath the Dreamrender is formed.
empty grove
wonder if anybody in NA has gotten it yet
narrow steppe
Yeah I got and used mine prior to all of this talk about it D:
quartz viper
Apply some critical thought
Well yeah.. It was a joke for the guy who asked a question w/o reading the article lol.
empty grove
my OCE ass is raiding tonight
stuck eagle
Are... The embers only dropping on mythic?
narrow steppe
So hope im not screwed
oblique trail
no
restive peak
A triumphant roat echoes from atop Mount Warriorville as Leggolinc crafted the leggo. LEGGO!
slate mural
guys i got the other bis weapon for fury in vault should i just switch from arms
frosty karma
so if you do heroic fyrak and loot no token vs doing normal first and looting a token youre basically out of luck
past pivot
guys i got the other bis weapon for fury in vault should i just switch from arms
BIS weapon is the legendary
slate mural
BIS weapon is the legendary
ok well i didn't get that
stuck eagle
Do the embers drop on difficulties other than mythic?
slate mural
BIS weapon is the legendary
the next best
oblique trail
Do the embers drop on difficulties other than mythic?
yes
gaunt delta
Do the embers drop on difficulties other than mythic?
According to some yes
restive peak
The 489 1 you have Dusk
dry talon
So im gonna farm the fck out of lfr,norm,hc tommorow
modest condor
A triumphant roat echoes from atop Mount Warriorville as Leggolinc crafted the l...
what is a roat?
empty grove
theorising on the artcle and what it said. Maybe the lesser embers increase your bad luck protection only slightly while the greater does more? who knows. thats my theory. Provided it works
peak bloom
According to most it’s Lesser Essence from every boss other than Fyrakk, 1 per week. Fyrakk drops the greater.
slate mural
The 489 1 you have Dusk
would be hero tracked soul cleaver and bonecrusher
past pivot
Gorehowl
quiet bramble
Interesting that the raid build doesn't take thunderous roar? Guess the crit strike damage wins out over increased bleed damage
gleaming crag
chrome plover
I guess it depends on uptime
empty grove
rezzan is a st trinket bro
past pivot
Rezan more ST-centric
oblique trail
gleaming crag
I never have to do DOTI again lol
oblique trail
A 20 BRH I did earlier
proud vessel
What is divergent m+?
frosty karma
if your tank doesnt go afk all the time you keep stacks
oblique trail
although my signet is 463
Heavily depends on tank and dungeon
and I did everything i could to max uptime
peak bloom
What is divergent m+?
Dawn of the Infinite m+ items
chrome relic
signet is almost 100% up to tank and pulls
if u can keep it rolling at 15 its goated
if not then meh
slate mural
does anyone know the caps on stats?
past pivot
does anyone know the caps on stats?
Just sim
peak bloom
Robot knows when you’re hitting them
oblique trail
Problem with Signet is
peak bloom
Trust robot
oblique trail
that Augury exists
Which requires no special pulls or dungeons to be good
and just always does aoe
olive wraith
Well yeah.. It was a joke for the guy who asked a question w/o reading the artic...
Mine was a joke on the sim guy
proud vessel
Can you get the leggo from weekly chest or was that a fake pic?
olive wraith
My b
modest condor
yeah but augury is rare drop
peak bloom
Augury been insane for me since week 1, no one else in my guild wanted it 🤷 now everyone does
modest condor
old
olive wraith
Leggo is from quest
stuck eagle
balmy shore
real
vocal spade
Coming back to fury after years of tanking. Blind follow wowhead guide?
proud vessel
Can you get the queat item from all difficulties of only mythic?
quiet bramble
Bloodbath being 30% of my damage single target seems nuts haha
oblique trail
yeah but augury is rare drop
it's simply a case of
just loot it
(I can't loot it)
peak bloom
(It’s fake)
Or is it?
olive wraith
Bloodbath being 30% of my damage single target seems nuts haha
Bb stronk
balmy shore
Coming back to fury after years of tanking. Blind follow wowhead guide?
ya follow wowhead guide
stuck eagle
Dumb warriors
delicate thicket
real
pliant berry
What ilvl yall at this season?
errant pond
has anyone got the spell reflect addon that tells you the dmg it done
kind badge
New legendary looks cool, too bad I only play SMF dagger build.
serene vessel
has anyone got the spell reflect addon that tells you the dmg it done
spell reflect essentials
errant pond
spell reflect essentials
not that one the one that like shows in chat
modest condor
what do you mean photoshop that's clearly real
peak bloom
Fixed it
tacit crag
sim is totally wrong. you need 1 target patchwerk 5min and you have 5. Seeing ho...
Not sure why you came off so harshly, but I will help you: It's a multi target sim not a single target one. You may need assistance with noticing I am in aoe spec t30 and simming with t31 mt. Hence the 5 targets. That being said, apparently 4pc heroic according to my sim is 11k worse than t30 4pc 437 ilvl in aoe which is what I was seeking help with. Apologies for not outlining it more clearly for you.
meager void
Not sure why you came off so harshly, but I will help you: It's a multi target s...
Aoe sim for T31 is not implemented yet
tacit crag
Aoe sim for T31 is not implemented yet
Thank you, which would explain the issue I believe.
clever belfry
@oblique trail uwu
oblique trail
@clever belfry owo
left perch
What ilvl yall at this season?
got 7 ilvls today to 464
serene vessel
deal u pay for shipping
pliant berry
So essentially to get Lego quest just kill heroic fyrak every week?
thin cliff
Ok, here's everything we know about the Embers bullshit so far
https://www.wowh...
That's super helpful - I just snagged one of the greaters; probably better to just hang onto it until SmallIndieQA does a few rounds and things are better understood/working
clever path
You got that?
The screenshot is fake, same screenshot is posted by multiple people
serene vessel
So essentially to get Lego quest just kill heroic fyrak every week?
I mean its safe to say that if u keep killing fyrak every week on heroic u have a decent chance at the legendary
quartz hare
So do we need to beat heroic first this week to up chance of drip of the axe
dapper goblet
👩🦯
meager void
Thank you, which would explain the issue I believe.
Didn't intend harshness but you did seem clueless, sorry about that. Also, the reason noones rushing to generate a proper MT APL is more related to its actual applicability rather than just the effort it would take. Current MT content is so different from a patchwerk scenario that its hard to imagine the usefulness of it.
meager void
And that we all stoked about leggo
gaunt delta
anyone drop axe yet
Bruh same guild I’ll tell you lmao
wraith prairie
has meeres tested the on use
silent gazelle
bro used it on one target lol
peak bloom
That's super helpful - I just snagged one of the greaters; probably better to ju...
Was the greater from Fyrakk
kind swift
Any lego enjoyers?
gaunt delta
Any lego enjoyers?
Yeah we all got one…you didn’t? Might wanna just delete your warrior
thin cliff
Was the greater from Fyrakk
yes - dropped from heroic Fyrakk
personal loot straight to bags on kill
oblique trail
bro used it on one target lol
From what people ahve said it's split damage
edgy widget
yeah it is confirmed to split damage
junior gale
has anyone found out if u can get a greater from fyrak normal and heroic
edgy widget
which makes sense tbh, it would be pretty obscene otherwise
silent gazelle
lame but understandable
oblique trail
just a bit
young swan
i wonder if it does the 15% increase per target thing IN ADDITION to the equip effect
silent gazelle
it would break the game
junior gale
or does anyone know if its 1 a week
oblique trail
I do imagine it would be the usual split damage with increase per target
molten relic
Is it capped too? The tooltip says all which is Clownery if it’s capped on targets
serene vessel
i wonder if it does the 15% increase per target thing IN ADDITION to the equip e...
wym?
edgy widget
has anyone found out if u can get a greater from fyrak normal and heroic
not sure anyone has confirmed that yet, but current working theory is that the greater doesn't actually do anything so........
junior gale
Got a greater in normal will kill heroic fyrak tonight
junior gale
not sure anyone has confirmed that yet, but current working theory is that the g...
that would be a certified blizzard moment if thats true
empty grove
When do you think blizz will confirm/ explain more on the Lego and the drops from raid
serene vessel
there's a cap to how many mobs u can hit with the on use afaik
young swan
wym?
most split damage items split damage and increase per target hit by 15% up to 5 targets
serene vessel
Meeres said there was a cap
mellow crow
bro used it on one target lol
mild iris
Hey guys, rn I got 2p T30 and 2p T31 :/ does that work until 4p T31 lmao
young swan
wonder if this one does that in addition to the 10% extra damage per enemy afflicted by the dot
tribal pine
In raid pre-any tier pieces what build is the suggested one to go?
warm crag
t30 should be fine
young swan
the damage looks kinda piss in aoe
lyric bluff
It kinda is
stuck eagle
Oof, so it's not even worth using?
young swan
ur just gonna use it right after ur done with cd's
subtle lagoon
What are the affixes?
silent gazelle
https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtisticRockyHareVoHiYo-rHYBBk8OxV0B-FkP?tt_medium=clips...
ty
young swan
What are the affixes?
warm crag
locked in place for 3 seconds do less damage than cd's
did you see the pvp modifier on the on use
subtle lagoon
Cheers
young swan
did you see the pvp modifier on the on use
no
warm crag
emergency buffs pls
young swan
would be cool if it did more damage than a single gcd
sly lagoon
Hey, is a 2x 1hand viable with dual fryakk ?
young swan
lego lower prio than execute phase 2pc BB
lyric bluff
Aoe is split damage
young swan
wild
serene vessel
make it 500k a second if its capped 🙂
lyric bluff
Amp capped to 5. But all dots are consumed
serene vessel
I actually don't even think you use the active if you're in execute phase and playing arms
which is wild
clever belfry
king cooking over in california
modest condor
1 whirlwind gets you all the dots back anyway
young swan
do we even know that
lyric bluff
Blood boil shouldn’t. It’s magic
serene vessel
i havent played blood in years all I know is he said some spell made it easily appliable to all
young swan
plate players getting punished before even being OP once again....
lyric bluff
It’s flagged for white and yellow melee
Not a big deal for warrior. Harder for dk and not sure for pal
left perch
guys they aren’t gonna let plate out do DH this tier. There’s too much lore associated for that to happen
edgy widget
Pal has a lot of cleave effects that can do it, though not always up to 5+ targets
wispy thistle
@young swan did he heartstrike at all while in the dnd?
misty helm
whats the hardcap for Mastery etc
wispy thistle
would hit multiple
young swan
<@137363315817971712> did he heartstrike at all while in the dnd?
i think so
young swan
whats the hardcap for Mastery etc
there isnt one
misty helm
D: 57% rn
jade trench
has anyone seeen a leggo drop yet in raid
serene vessel
archi u did the sims right? Do we even use the legendary active if playing arms and its execute phase?
edgy widget
i think so
yeah heartstrike cleave will work
candid falcon
surely a 450k damage global is stronger than one execute
serene vessel
surely a 450k damage global is stronger than one execute
but its a 3 second channel
so its not just 1 execute
candid falcon
blizzard ffs
serene vessel
for arms 3 seconds is 2 executes and maybe an MS if you have enough haste
so definitely not enough damage
candid falcon
it might be good if you somehow don't have enough rage which is as far as i know not a real problem that arms players have
narrow fossil
HELP ! i do too much low dmg can someone help plsssss (this is my gear) + recount
serene vessel
are you using a 1h eapon?
forest owl
whoever designed mythic council fight needs a smack truly awful fight for downtime
poison poison duck poison duck poison fml
forest owl
quack blizzard
dawn pivot
whats a good WA for dungeons?
forest owl
nah i never had as much downtime as our kill tonight, i take experiements anyday
tardy lark
whoever designed mythic council fight needs a smack truly awful fight for downti...
look forward to tindral in that case
serene vessel
lmao
wispy thistle
@narrow fossil What weapons are you using?
serene vessel
i swear i said this yesterday, it just looked very boring and mid
ashen socket
Lol wym now when you make a mistake and have no buttons to press you can hit that wep
oblique trail
HELP ! i do too much low dmg can someone help plsssss (this is my gear) + recoun...
First of all swap your weapons around
always have highest ilvl in mainhand
serene vessel
First of all swap your weapons around
im not 100% sure but i unironically think hes using a 1h in his oh
young swan
i swear i said this yesterday, it just looked very boring and mid
yeah but yesterday it couldve not split damage and be cool
serene vessel
so itmight be worth it to keep the lower ilvl
sudden tusk
split damage 
ashen socket
does it cancel if you try to move or cast anything else or are you locked in?
brittle crow
On use is worthless
why worthless
serene vessel
does it cancel if you try to move or cast anything else or are you locked in?
locked in i believe
u cant even be stunned out of it
oblique trail
im not 100% sure but i unironically think hes using a 1h in his oh
man he literally mogged it into the argus scythe
stuck eagle
why worthless
Locks you in place and can't use skills for 3 seconds
oblique trail
it's the polearm from first boss aberrus
narrow fossil
ok so
serene vessel
wtf is the spring keeper
brittle crow
on use just does piss damage
in both st and aoe?
oblique trail
it's the superbloom polearm
narrow fossil
but i just found
oblique trail
use the highest ilvl in main hand always
ashen socket
2mil later
stuck eagle
in both st and aoe?
Split damage. So yes.
oblique trail
use that one instead of the infernal shade lance
narrow fossil
ok ty
ashen socket
My guess it you will probably use the axe outside of ur big burst
since bloodthirst hits harder
young swan
in both st and aoe?
it does less damage over 3 seconds than a singular 2pc amped bb
stuck eagle
My guess it you will probably use the axe outside of ur big burst
Even then, that's underwhelming. Arms would only be using it if all else we can do is like, slam
brittle crow
OOF
brittle crow
it does less damage over 3 seconds than a singular 2pc amped bb
that's kind of sad
they forgot a 0 at the end of the dmg
ashen socket
Meh I mean
young swan
surely they buff it
stuck eagle
A legendary effect shouldn't be the bottom of your priority list
ashen socket
axe makes us a little better
young swan
l e g e n d a r y btw
ashen socket
also they are probably nerfing all the top preformers so fury is like
probs gonna be close to the top
really close
with the axe
brittle crow
so do we know if it's personal loot or not yet
clever path
assuming other on use weapon effects will it have a 20 second cd when used with trinkets
young swan
the purple is the lego btw
outer umbra
well thats a let down
dire badge
gavel >
young swan
the 2nd smallest one is SF patch
outer umbra
surely a buff is coming right heh
young swan
the smallest is the dot from the equip effect
molten relic
Right lol. Suddenly magically in a good spot after 3%
brittle crow
yea but i want another button to press archi
mossy pollen
we getting a 3% buff?
molten relic
But 5% + wep not enough xd
brittle crow
i was hyped to CHANNEL
edgy widget
Right lol. Suddenly magically in a good spot after 3%
has nothing to do with being in a good or bad spot
although Warriors really aren't in a bad spot anyway so....
barren dagger
what is this bad luck protection thing.....
ashen socket
Warrior is in a great spot rn if im not mistaken
outer umbra
you mean we shouldnt be constantly begging for buffs???
stuck eagle
Anything not top 5 spec is litterslly useless
young swan
warrior is fine
molten relic
Oh nah I agree 100%, war definitely in a good spot
edgy widget
DH being overpowered doesn't mean War is bad
young swan
I'm just disappointed that the lego is basically just a worse trinket, most of the value is in the ilvl
modest talon
DH being overpowered doesn't mean War is bad
^ that
molten relic
And leggo is a nice touch. Wish it wasn’t capped or had a bit more punch for a 3 second channel but
ashen socket
atleast you aren't missing out on too much
molten relic
We take the w where we can get them
outer umbra
lets just wait for December 5th when sin rogue gets nuked back to the stone age
turbid needle
i love drinking and driving
clever path
dec 5th bm, havoc, rogue nerfs pray
empty grove
warr doesnt need a buff
brazen quail
major copium
empty grove
we are in a solid spot
outer umbra
i kind of want them to stay broken its not like our raid teams dont have those 3 specs man but idk
clever path
fuck it put survival in there as well they'll just reroll survival and realize its even stronger
turbid needle
that doesnt mean we dont want a buff
i want a buff because it make my meter go big not because of class imbalance
empty grove
ah then yes
radiant coyote
m+ feels so good with windfury totem
ashen socket
My guess is everything above enh is gonna get nerfed and everything below frost mage will be buffed
just a guess tho
that would make sense to me
modest condor
they should probably fix the aug hooks before they start nerfing specs
clever path
assa is eating a lot of aug dmg i think
lunar cape
I'd be happy if we got something like lust so people would have a good reason to pick warrs again!
quiet bramble
if Outlaw and MM catch a nerf they'll cry so hard
radiant coyote
My guess is everything above enh is gonna get nerfed and everything below frost ...
except monk
ashen socket
Yeah we can forget about monk
quiet bramble
I think sin could eat a 3-5% nerf and still be flying high
ashen socket
im ok with that
stuck eagle
assa is eating a lot of aug dmg i think
Aug continues to be a mistake
fleet night
guys im new to warrior and the wow general, i was doing a raid and this dude said use pain more, isnt that only for arms?
clever path
yeah makes you wish the old lego effect was true
young swan
guys im new to warrior and the wow general, i was doing a raid and this dude sai...
yes
clever path
removes aug fromthe game
quiet bramble
Aug isn't a mistake, the fact that Blizzard has had 4 months to fix hooks and still can't is the issue.
edgy widget
guys im new to warrior and the wow general, i was doing a raid and this dude sai...
yes but also ignore pain is no longer a rotational ability for Warriors
barren dagger
is MM good? i thought BM was the broken spec
clever path
i think mm parses are skewed cause 3 peope are playing it
ashen socket
all hunter specs are in a good spot rn but bm is just so easy
clever path
people*
quiet bramble
MM only has a few parses in mythic, but those parses are doing good
viscid flare
MM has really strong 5 target burst rn
quiet bramble
MM only has 101 mythic parses so its data is a lot more unreliable
clever path
MM has really strong 5 target burst rn
i think they do like 0 prio dmg with that build
as in
0 0
resto druid dps
viscid flare
yeah they're definitely a youtube thumbnail overall kind of spec and not a meaningful damage spec atm
but sometimes your comp just needs a guy to pad on stuff and by golly can MM do that
summer quail
fkn hell igira mythic is so fun as fury
viscid flare
ive liked every boss ive done as fury so far (first 6 except council) - the amount of burst we have is amusing
viscid flare
i did council as arms but yeah that fight is kinda ass
spare orbit
guys, 2p-2p with new talents or 4p with old talents?
unreal onyx
voti council good
molten relic
Council fights
unreal onyx
atdh council bad
unreal onyx
I liked voti council
quiet bramble
Council is fun when tanks keep the bear next to others
mmm sweeping strikes value on arms
keen kindle
Both council fights suck
keen kindle
atdh council bad
You know I just realized amdrassil's abbreviation almost spells out adhd
restive peak
People really downplayin the 11ilvls on the wep too eh? Thing is still a massive DPS increase
strong zephyr
augury kinda fuck good or what
strong zephyr
roar hitting like wet noodle is kinda sad tho
compact knot
ok guys fury is the best its been in raid this whole pansion, lets constantly beg for buffs now more then the 2 other tiers
fallen quarry
Anyone have MRT notes for CD timers for raid?
mossy stream
hi guys, just came back to the game and leveled a warrior, i don't have any tier yet, should i just be running the raging blow talents until i get t31 or should i just run annihilator anyway since it probably doesn't matter too much
empty grove
hi guys, just came back to the game and leveled a warrior, i don't have any tier...
raging blow until T31 but sim yourself ideally! not entirely sure!
mossy stream
ok thanks
molten wing
oblique trail
it's in vault
oblique trail
just like my augury is
tomorrow
If I don't get augury
then idk I'll cry or something
chrome plover
same we can both cry
viscid lynx
Please i need help deciding, the sims are to close for me to decide.
chrome plover
only have 1 slot for augury :s
arctic raft
with Titans Torment would we want to cast BB 3x before avatar because of the 2pc? Or does the 2pc stack?
tacit echo
Is there a point when you have to much crit
oblique trail
only have 1 slot for augury :s
I'll ahve 1 or 2
past pivot
Please i need help deciding, the sims are to close for me to decide.
Whatever you expect will be the hardest slot to replace
oblique trail
all hinges whether or not I'll keep inting to charge on council
past pivot
Is there a point when you have to much crit
yes, when the sims say so
tacit echo
And it's just raidbots, right, I didn't see anything stat wise on that when I looked at it
dawn pivot
what are the best trinkets
past pivot
what are the best trinkets
Depends
chrome plover
I'll ahve 1 or 2
2 mythic slots 
ruining my augury chances
past pivot
And Augury
ornate gust
Please i need help deciding, the sims are to close for me to decide.
Take it and convert it to tier set for a better stat
dawn pivot
the ones from raid?
unreal onyx
huh
oblique trail
for the 2nd vault slot
fading sky
did u keel smoldy?
clever belfry
why did they have to make it 4 bosses
so i get 2 this week
chrome plover
no
clever belfry
👍
clever belfry
Was afk for nymue and larodar gg
viscid lynx
Take it and convert it to tier set for a better stat
Wouldnt i want to save my charge for a myth helm shoulder chest or hand drop in raid?
ornate gust
Wouldnt i want to save my charge for a myth helm shoulder chest or hand drop in ...
That leg has leech too
ember apex
yes u do that gylei. u optimize secondaries with catalyst charges later in the season
past pivot
Wouldnt i want to save my charge for a myth helm shoulder chest or hand drop in ...
maybe. We can't read your mind lol
ember apex
even still
a mythic tier piece in a slot he wants will always be BiS
he's right to save his charges for those
until he's 4/4myth on tier slots
dire badge
clever belfry
man...
ember apex
if he wants leech that bad he can get enchants on bracers and cloak
clever belfry
hit me at my lowest...
ember apex
what happened
viscid lynx
if he wants leech that bad he can get enchants on bracers and cloak
So what would you pick in my situation?
ember apex
i didnt see the options. i just know that catalyzying (even a 489) legs for secondary rerolls w/ 2nd catalyst charge is a mistake
ember apex
if this is week 9 diff story
idk what ur other gear is and what kind of guild ur in
are u HoF guild or mid-late CE guild
u have diff gearing strategies
but even if u had the crests rn and u upgraded those legs to 4/4 myth and u did nothing else i still wouldnt recommend blasting a catalyst charge on them
like the exception is if ur guild is on smolderon or something and ur wiping at <1% b/c of dps
and if u sim ur secondaries and its a 1k dps increase to catalyze
ok then do it
brittle crow
https://i.imgur.com/sk3kGX8.png what do i do if OF is on a still long cd but reck ava roar are back up
viscid lynx
if this is week 9 diff story
here is an idea of my sim and yes i wasnt intending to use my 2nd charge on those legs.
clever path
send
ember apex
u know mythic eonar was soloable in SL w/ double leap leggo and engineer belt enchant
i did it one time after like 2hrs of wipes
oh and speed pot
u needed speed pot
brittle crow
its easy now without anything
ember apex
why
brittle crow
but a lot of ppl think its not still
ember apex
how
ember apex
oh i had no idea
stoic dirge
guys what macro is the opener now?
ember apex
i didnt raid legion so i had some weird solo prog for it
brittle crow
as long as u make sure the tree isnt being attacked before u go up to the ship
and u go up to the ship both times
its free
ember apex
ah damn ok i might hit it again
terse ether
should I get haste/mastery for crafted back or mastery/vers?
ember apex
i still need the scythe mog on mythic/normal
viscid lynx
if that was ur intention all along, send it
My intent was on saving the charge. If thats the case should i gear around the crit haste legs or just take throne band"?
brittle crow
ah damn ok i might hit it again
u kill adds until the big free ad-killoff happens, then go up to ship
by the time u get back down, ads will be at tree
repeat kill ads until ship is back up, by then it'll be done p much
but u have to go up 2nd time
ember apex
My intent was on saving the charge. If thats the case should i gear around the c...
depends on ur ring ilvl situation. i know ppl in my guild incl me are having trouble getting accessories so maybe ring, but if legs are a BIG dps upgrade def get those. u can always craft the other thing
what about the ranged mortar guys
fel reavers
gilded pawn
with Titans Torment would we want to cast BB 3x before avatar because of the 2pc...
it stacks
ember apex
dont they just pelt the boss like 5 times and wipe
viscid lynx
depends on ur ring ilvl situation. i know ppl in my guild incl me are having tro...
These are the ring im currently sitting on
ember apex
ok take legs 100%
viscid lynx
ok thanks man
unreal onyx
surely I will get a good item tomorrow 
ember apex
what bosses u doing tomorrow
unreal onyx
tomorrow only normal clear
ember apex
im sitting council so my vault doesnt get fucked up if i dont get a 2h wep off gnarl
unreal onyx
idk if I should bench myself for normal fyrakk and then go only to hc
does that increase odds
or doesn't matter
unreal onyx
I don't
ember apex
so ur gonna skip the boss that gives literal BiS trinket?
unreal onyx
I mean, if it would've increased odds somehow to do it on hc I would've benched
but if it doesn't ofc I'll come
ember apex
dude if it drops on normal
u can upgrade crank that shit up to like heroic+ ilvl
if it drops on heroic its basically a mythic trinket
terse ether
should I get haste/mastery for crafted back or mastery/vers?
ember apex
remember its last boss ilvl loot + very rare + upgrade system
unreal onyx
surely I will get it 
ember apex
should I get haste/mastery for crafted back or mastery/vers?
sim it
raidbots > gear compare
/simc if u have the addon in ur raid ST spec/gear
ember apex
link me ur armory ill sim it for u rn
unreal onyx
fyrakk augry nm max upgrade sims still 3.5k dps more than might of the ocean 476
ember apex
or ur raiderio
terse ether
460lol
terse ether
I know how to sim the crafted ones, jkust wonderfinf if there's a "general guideline"
ember apex
fyrakk augry nm max upgrade sims still 3.5k dps more than might of the ocean 476
yeah check bloodmallet but augury and catacylsmic signet are bis
unreal onyx
I have cataclysmic signet hc already
ember apex
not really right now. theres no hard breakpoints for fury
unreal onyx
maxed out
ember apex
oh sick u got heroic signet
unreal onyx
but it's shit for m+
unreal onyx
hc max augry is only 1k dps over nm max augry?
the highest simmed hc item for 5T 5min I can get is a catalyzed boe
ember apex
u out here simmin 5targets smh my head
unreal onyx
I was just looking if there is smthn good for aoe I can get
oak peak
hm odd. is there a reason signet brand is simming so much worse for me than other raid trinkets? everything says its bis, but sims lower than most trinkets in raid for me on droptimizer
ember apex
what trinkets is it simming against?
and are u doing a standard 5min patchwerk simC weekly version
oak peak
wait. had it set to weekly. let me resim
ember apex
weekly is fine
oak peak
hm doing an overall droptimizer of all normal raid loot. 4 min patchwork
should i change it to 5 min? seems most fights arent 5 min usually
fading sky
dno signet is giga in longer fights
oak peak
ill check it longer
oak peak
yeah we're pretty meh overall. usually progress through heroic slowly, then do 3-4 in mythic
so normal is still relavant for a bit
ok switching fight timers changed it, thanks. was showing branch as bis for me
fading sky
well heroic fights are longer if u are bad arent they=
ember apex
branch as BiS
fading sky
( no offense meant btw )
slim coral
branch is bis for arms
ember apex
yeah but hes saying something else
slim coral
augury and signet are bis for fury
slim coral
serpent and signet actually
oak peak
actually had my sims set to 3 min fights (was what our farm was roughly last tier), so it was showing branch as bis at that fight length. at 5 its signet/aug like normal
ember apex
typically damage matters for prog
like no one cares how fast u reclear u want to kill bosses for the first time the easiest
thats why 5min sim is standard
sharp silo
we dont need a wa to track anything like season 2 right
ember apex
u dont want to buff clip OF buffs with ur normal CDs
but u can do that in ur head
so
no
sharp silo
ty
brittle crow
@modest condor can u ask the robot something for me
in execute phase, with jugg fully stacked, after pressing odyns fury, do i ignore execute for a few seconds to fit 2 bloodbaths into the 4 sec avatar window
i think if i press exe there then the 2nd BB doesnt get fit into avatar
dusty tide
Answer might be somewhere in this discord or the internet, but can Cold Steel, Hot blood be applied to mobs using whirlwind?
brittle crow
yes
eternal sundial
Answer might be somewhere in this discord or the internet, but can Cold Steel, H...
if the cleaved bt crits ye
dusty tide
Thanks guys
modest condor
<@105847932611231744> can u ask the robot something for me
in execute phase, wit...
bloodbath already has higher prio than execute anyway
brittle crow
bloodbath already has higher prio than execute anyway
yea but juggy execute has higher prio than ramp
modest condor
oh like that
brittle crow
so you'd be pressing ramp - bb - exe
but i think after OF i should just ramp bb ramp bb
cuz not getting a 2nd BB into that avatar window is kinda huge sad i'd think
charred flint
i think im cursed, i've ran 40 dungeons alerady or something like it and i still have thesse trinkets
tardy lark
man just went back to season 1
tardy lark
nah it was pretty good then
unreal onyx
it wasn't bad
tardy lark
it just wasnt an Icon
unreal onyx
it was just not the best
tardy lark
lol
tardy lark
even ok for ST
tardy lark
yes really
ember apex
i remember when valor cap was removed s1 that tuesday i ran like 20 +2 AAs in a row until i dropped a puzzle box
unreal onyx
maybe blizz lets you keep it until you appreciate it
ember apex
remember valor points fuck im old
ember apex
theres a cap rn
unreal onyx
idk if I miss valor
ember apex
but its the crests/flightstones system
unreal onyx
valor is easier
unreal onyx
and made it easier for people that don't do weekly 20s to get high ilvl items
modest condor
yea but juggy execute has higher prio than ramp
doesnt give a noticable dps increase in sims
modest condor
simming within variance
brittle crow
easier to just keep ramp bb executing then ig
brittle crow
u could be like me
getting multiple weapons and none of them sim higher than ashkandur
brittle crow
the problem is the crest cap rn
ive got like 2 weps in my bag that i cant upgrade cuz crests
unreal onyx
just be like me
lone locust
Hello, Is there any WA for the BT stacks?
unreal onyx
play what you like with the best weapons you have
charred flint
crest + flightstones seems just plain worse than valor
silent gazelle
not to victim blame but what you upgrading instead
charred flint
why did they change it
haughty nova
brittle crow
not to victim blame but what you upgrading instead
main hand and hero track tier pieces mostly
silent gazelle
play what you like with the best weapons you have
arms be simming like 20k higher than fury
so I cant be doin that
unreal onyx
what
silent gazelle
for me, cause of 463 weapon
lunar cape
ive got like 2 weps in my bag that i cant upgrade cuz crests
You should only need to upgrade one and the other is just flightstones
charred flint
arms be simming like 20k higher than fury
Are you a world first raider?
cause if so
if not
it really doesnt matter
brittle crow
You should only need to upgrade one and the other is just flightstones
🤔 ur right
silent gazelle
it still matters
charred flint
it still matters
Don't think so, hu-uh
sharp silo
should i use avatar just before odyn's fury expire, or after it expires. does it make any difference ?
charred flint
should i use avatar just before odyn's fury expire, or after it expires. does it...
I usually use it after my improved WW stacks drop
but im 100% not sure if thats the correct thing to do
balmy shore
real
brittle crow
should i use avatar just before odyn's fury expire, or after it expires. does it...
use it before it expires
like right before
sharp silo
does it make a difference ?
charred flint
Its off GCD so you can press it with other stuff
brittle crow
or if ur in aoe then yea use it to refresh w stacks
brittle crow
does it make a difference ?
yes letting avatar drop is bad
cuz then ur roar will tick without avatar and u wont hit pandemic window
sharp silo
i mean we dont get a buff with losing avatar and gaining again like druids?
sharp silo
ok thx
jolly dragon
im gonna ask a stupid question but do i take cataclysmic brand trink or tier legs from vault? Im assuming trink
fading bane
+110 ranks today lmao
brittle crow
im gonna ask a stupid question but do i take cataclysmic brand trink or tier leg...
tier is short term gains if it'll complete 2/4pc
trink better long term probably
quaint stag
idk if I miss valor
Was it shadowlands valor that you could upgrade anything to highest level if you had the m+ rating or did it still have to drop from higher key like now with hero track
ember apex
im gonna ask a stupid question but do i take cataclysmic brand trink or tier leg...
trinket since its bis
jolly dragon
thanks
hardy shore
anyone know how to make raidbots sim the best upgrade for you? I'm doing top gear and upgrading all my items on it and its showing me my sim with every item upgraded lmao
i only want it to show which item has the most weight to upgrade
hardy shore
so make like 8 sets with my upgraded items?
gilded pawn
Was it shadowlands valor that you could upgrade anything to highest level if you...
yeah it was like 1 patch in shadowlands
brittle crow
upgrades arent really that complicated tbh
just upgrade ur most important pieces, anything u know u prob wont replace for a while
weapons, hero+ track tier, bis trinkets
inner zinc
i just got myth track boots (480) and my current boots are 447 shadowflame emb boots. I cant move the embelishment atm its gonna be next week. Would it be better for me to go for embelish or just pure ilvl?
burnt stone
Hi brothers
While watching APL, a question suddenly arose.
Looking at APL, if the target's health is above 35% and Rage is below 85%, is it true that BT takes priority over Ramp even if there is no enrage buff?
For example, if rage is 80, there is no enrage buff, and BT is not on reuse, cast BT rather than Ramp.
Did I understand it correctly?
brittle crow
that surely isnt correct, i'd think
regular bloodthirst hits like a wet noodle outside of enrage
restive peak
Servers down to fix leggo maybe? Lol
brittle crow
and you dont want to waste tier charges on a regular, unrenraged bloodthirst
high basin
sounds wrong
nimble basin
Agreed. If not enraged get enraged before anything else.
rotund ginkgo
most scuffed stats award goes to
young swan
22% haste is fucking cursed
rotund ginkgo
yeah
burnt stone
and you dont want to waste tier charges on a regular, unrenraged bloodthirst
Well, of course, the situation I just gave an example assumes that there is no FB buff, no Reck buff, and no sudden death buff.
If the rage is 80 and the target's health is over 35% without the buffs just mentioned, is it right to cast BT even without the enrage buff?
young swan
equip howling runes
rotund ginkgo
thats 55% with double hissing..
buoyant salmon
until i put on mastery runes, its my lowest stat lol
brittle crow
Well, of course, the situation I just gave an example assumes that there is no F...
if not enraged, always ramp
icy panther
so who's buyin all the leggo mats now and hoping to save some dosh
olive wraith
Bt gives a chance to enrage though
restive peak
I accidentally bought 18000 of the awakened earths
brittle crow
so who's buyin all the leggo mats now and hoping to save some dosh
im not getting lego until like 2 months so it'll end up cheap when i get it
olive wraith
Plus wouldn’t the potential cdr be good
young swan
Bt gives a chance to enrage though
yeah but BT enrage happens as a consequence of the ability hitting tho
olive wraith
And lower chance of empty gcd
young swan
not before
brittle crow
Bt gives a chance to enrage though
chance = it wont happen when u need it
young swan
so the BT damage wouldnt be buffed even if u proc enrage
olive wraith
Surely less empty gcd is better right
young swan
its the only enrage mechanic that still does that
burnt stone
if not enraged, always ramp
Like your opinion, I think ramp is priority if there is no Enrage buff.
But isn't BT better than Ramp when it comes to accurately interpreting APL?
restive peak
I think you'd want to ramp if above 80, but BT is EOGCD basically always when enraged, no? Wtf am I wrong here xD
young swan
most scuffed stats award goes to
meanwhile...
young swan
yep
young swan
need to figure out if im crit rune enjoyer or mastery rune enjoyer
rotund ginkgo
i do feel like a shit ton of haste feels bad on bl cuz of ramp>bb spam
young swan
prob
nova atlas
this emergency maintenance better fix greater embers
chrome flint
ye
young swan
im coping that they're making the lego better
chrome flint
x2
hardy shore
what spellqueuewindow do you all use?
compact knot
ferals have a ability hitting for upwards of 1 million and ticking for 400k
restive peak
I assume they're fixing the leggo item drops etc
brittle crow
Like your opinion, I think ramp is priority if there is no Enrage buff.
But isn'...
idk what the robot thinks but you def dont want to press anything while not enraged
olive wraith
I thought we ramped at 110 rage or higher. And that bt was better below that point
compact knot
so im guessing that
restive peak
I mean even when they got it, it didn't have a tooltip and the NPC was invisible LOL
brittle crow
I thought we ramped at 110 rage or higher. And that bt was better below that poi...
we do
olive wraith
I don’t think there’s ever a case where you wouldn’t be enraged for bb
Is 1 non enraged bt really worse than potential empty gcd
rotund ginkgo
I don’t think there’s ever a case where you wouldn’t be enraged for bb
yeah i miswrote
quaint stag
yeah it was like 1 patch in shadowlands
now that was one good aspect of it, farm bis once and upgrade when you get rating. Either farm higher ilvl version or run easier keys quciker but spend more valor
rotund ginkgo
basically just ramp to enrage>bb>exec>rampage>bt>slam
olive wraith
In this specific scenario you have no filler cd
I feel like that’s risking an empty gcd in the next rampage window
robust widget
need to figure out if im crit rune enjoyer or mastery rune enjoyer
what about even more haste 
olive wraith
Also last m+ log I checked I had 81% enrage time. Didn’t check actual combat time
barren sail
Wonder why NA servers are going back into Maintance for an hour.
rotund ginkgo
In this specific scenario you have no filler cd
slam and whirlwind are literally filler cd what
ur also forgetting u press odyns fury every like 25-30s or so
olive wraith
Scroll up to our Korean friends scenario
gilded pawn
Is 1 non enraged bt really worse than potential empty gcd
could be
because thats 40-50% damage on bt
rotund ginkgo
Scroll up to our Korean friends scenario
wut
olive wraith
Can you not read?
quartz hare
why why just na?
olive wraith
How unclear is “scroll up to our Korean friends scenario l”
soft merlin
what did bliz f up to get this mid day main?
rotund ginkgo
brother im not chronically on discord i didnt see his original comment im starting a key im multitasking jesus
out of context ur shit made me go huh
end of story
gg next
quartz hare
is the fyrlath drop from vault real?
young swan
what did bliz f up to get this mid day main?
feral do 1 million damage
young swan
is the fyrlath drop from vault real?
no
rotund ginkgo
is the fyrlath drop from vault real?
KEK
olive wraith
Then why respond if you’re not following the “thread”
soft merlin
feral do 1 million damage
wtf lol
cunning moth
is the fyrlath drop from vault real?
just got it in my EU vault 
compact knot
feral do 1 million damage
boomkin starsurge 2 million damage, a single regrowth does 1 millon healing, feral bite you for 1.5 million
druid is fine right now
young swan
infinite AP/SP hack
soft merlin
lol 20 man stack druids in mythic raid lets go lol
whole pier
boomkin starsurge 2 million damage, a single regrowth does 1 millon healing, fer...
Is that confirmed?
compact knot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043280041305460821/1179178189726158878/i...
yeah click on this reply
spare cargo
lego can drop from vault?
compact knot
nope^
peak bloom
Alright who broke the game for maintenance
molten relic
zzz
compact knot
druids
compact knot
scroll up a little
lavish sage
what was maintenance for
compact knot
scroll up a little
compact knot
all specs where fucked
nova atlas
the 3 ppl who main feral were having so much fun
abstract dirge
is the chance to get leggo once per lockout or spammable? how was it with the evoker one
compact knot
once per lockout
as far as im aware
if you start with heroic it doesnt affect drop chance
maybe its better to start with lower tiers to get the little chance increase idk
thin cliff
what did bliz f up to get this mid day main?
soft merlin
lol
spare otter
selling a normal curio for 250k worth?
see i'm thinking it is for the legendary funds
noble elm
selling a normal curio for 250k worth?
I sold an LFR one for 500k today
spare otter
...
noble elm
its worth the highest amount someone will give you, lol
iron portal
rekt
spare otter
FUCK MAN FUCK
noble elm
wait not lfr sorry normal
urban tapir
https://clips.twitch.tv/AntsyUnusualButterBigBrother-7tkCu87QZXSMCTr3
couldve just brought a couple to raid n cleared it smh not fast enough lol
noble elm
brain scrambled
compact knot
some guy offered me 2 wow tokens for the atal ring with socket
then i got another atal ring with socket 5 atals later
im so pissed
spare otter
lmao
silent gazelle
selling a normal curio for 250k worth?
lmao easily worth
glacial path
whats everyone using for ST trinkets? Currently using signet brand and eye
thin cliff
whats everyone using for ST trinkets? Currently using signet brand and eye
signet brand and augury
iron portal
some guy offered me 2 wow tokens for the atal ring with socket
fool
thin cliff
augury 
old aurora
is fury fun after getting 4 pc?
compact knot
yes
noble elm
whats everyone using for ST trinkets? Currently using signet brand and eye
I think most folks are using rezan/signet for ST
a lot of augurys in there too
thin cliff
but sim it maybe
sims higher for me and pumps in practice (Igira heroic)
surreal blaze
Feels like we wouldn't wanna use Reckless on pull with 4 set cuz we get up to 6 crits from 2 set... Except for the double rage gen... Anyone know?
noble elm
Feels like we wouldn't wanna use Reckless on pull with 4 set cuz we get up to 6 ...
how does using reck on pull interfere with crits
young swan
it gives 20% crit which is then wasted when pressing BB