Id suspect that means we will get bad luck protection from the start?
#fury
marble schooner
past pivot
would be in news and pinned
marble schooner
ight, gess after reset tomorrow
serene vessel
is this right? Isnt it 2 seconds?
serene vessel
theres no way it doesnt split, right?
Would be obscenely broken if it didnt split
no target cap no split on use
night stone
Would be obscenely broken if it didnt split
Its Also on a legendary item
young swan
wouldnt be very legendary if it split
serene vessel
yeah but legendaries as a whole have been lackluster this xpac so far
marble schooner
wdym evoker legendary is nuts isnt it?
night stone
If split it might aswell not be there and its basically just a higher ilvl unique looking weapon
serene vessel
i dont think so? I don't play that class but im pretty sure it was mid
olive wraith
Is that the one it shares 10% main stats with a 60% uptime?
past pivot
Evoker leggo is about ilvl 487
rotund steppe
guys now that i think bout it, if i do sim a droptimizer fully naked do i get a true Bis list?
marble schooner
it felt mid, because it didnt give you the damage, but your party members, but it was a crazy good proc iirc
spare otter
guys now that i think bout it, if i do sim a droptimizer fully naked do i get a ...
Do it and let us know the results
night stone
S4 gonna be lit with hunters with raza bow, evokers and plate dps with Legos
serene vessel
wouldnt be very legendary if it split
i mean ur not wrong but it just feels like the two options are mediocre, or absolutely fucking insane, and i feel like they'd go with mediocre 9/10 times
marble schooner
S4 gonna be lit with hunters with raza bow, evokers and plate dps with Legos
surely this time around the legendary-havers will just need to get an item to upgrade them in ilvl?
surely they learnt from hunters in SL S4
young swan
i mean ur not wrong but it just feels like the two options are mediocre, or abso...
well they have been VERY good about making sure things that split SAY that they split
and this one doesnt
so we'll have to wait and see
serene vessel
well they have been VERY good about making sure things that split SAY that they ...
NL trinket last season
just off the top of my head
night stone
surely this time around the legendary-havers will just need to get an item to up...
HOPEFULLY lol
young swan
NL trinket last season
old xpac trinket that received no changes
serene vessel
fair
young swan
tooltip wise anyway
serene vessel
who knows, hopefully it doenst split
but if thats the case I'm sure we're gonna see some absolute shenanigans
in m+
young swan
warrior has a VERY easy time applying the mark from the equip too
serene vessel
some dumb 4 legendary comp gonna pull gigantic and then legendary them down
rigid stirrup
Fort weeks about to go brrrr
past pivot
Last season, the evoker legendary simmed out to be about ilvl 487. That's +30 ilvl. If the new axe does the same, it'll still be competitive next season with those mythic weapons/
young swan
Last season, the evoker legendary simmed out to be about ilvl 487. That's +30 il...
i imagine they're just gonna give us an upgrade tool for fated
vast trail
So since the weapon doesn’t say unique equipped does that mean we can wield 2 of them?
serene vessel
blow them up
young swan
gonna be rocking fyralath + ashkandur
serene vessel
So since the weapon doesn’t say unique equipped does that mean we can wield 2 of...
quest item, no
past pivot
So since the weapon doesn’t say unique equipped does that mean we can wield 2 of...
Read the tooltip. It does says that. And it's a quest reward.
vast trail
Does anyone know if it’s going personal loot on reset?
past pivot
Yes
young swan
Read the tooltip. It does says that. And it's a quest reward.
it actually doesnt say it on the tooltip, but yeah quest line reward so gg
at least its not on the tooltip thats pinned here
dapper goblet
👩🦯
young swan
technically possible
i have a second remornia
but it doesnt let me start the quest
so
cant get my bonus 2500 anima power
vast trail
Rip
past pivot
it actually doesnt say it on the tooltip, but yeah quest line reward so gg
You're right. I thought I saw a SS of it as unique-equipped.
olive wraith
Probably the “real” one
upbeat plume
well the leggo might let us be middle of the pack ST wise so thats better then weve had it for years as fury lol
urban nimbus
If it doesn't split I think it would be worth the channel.
olive wraith
We are middle before leggo
midnight jackal
which build are you guys using when you have 2pc/2pc. Either of the build I simmed gave me lower than if I stayed on my previous t30 4pc
olive wraith
Anni for me
olive wraith
Yes
urban nimbus
Nice
olive wraith
Should be searchable on wago
serene vessel
If it doesn't split I think it would be worth the channel.
itll be worth the channel regardless, but ya
compact knot
well the leggo might let us be middle of the pack ST wise so thats better then w...
fury kinda gaming on st rn, (compared to other tiers)
past pivot
well the leggo might let us be middle of the pack ST wise so thats better then w...
Middle of the pack? We're dropping?
urban nimbus
itll be worth the channel regardless, but ya
Imagine a million+ dps on aoe with like 10 mobs up.
urban nimbus
I imagine you can use it to inflate parses in a way.
In bosses that summon minions.
marble schooner
summer quail
gnarlroot legendary parses
urban nimbus
Best part is that since most warriors won't be bothered to spend gold to craft it you will be given a good parse from it.
marble schooner
this will be the first patch im playing where fury can get a leggo (besides shadowlands and legiondaries) kinda excited rn
fallen glacier
I can’t wait to hit it too early on Igira and die to spears
past pivot
Best part is that since most warriors won't be bothered to spend gold to craft i...
lol too funny
marble schooner
Best part is that since most warriors won't be bothered to spend gold to craft i...
I already bought the 10 shadowflame
i just know it will go up so much as soon as tomorrow
pliant imp
yo, just got to 70, no-tier set, which build i should be using until i get the tier-set? (For m+)
warm crag
t30 should be fine
brittle crow
yo, just got to 70, no-tier set, which build i should be using until i get the t...
you can very very easily get old tier set for free
urban nimbus
you can very very easily get old tier set for free
How so btw?
pliant imp
yee, i recently came back to wow, just played in the beginning of expac a bit:>
brittle crow
any gear that comes from time rifts or dreamsurge can be catalyzed into old tier without using a charge
marble schooner
How so btw?
time rift and dreamsurges
urban nimbus
Oh ok.
marble schooner
and turn that gear to tier free
brittle crow
but with old tier u use old build
only use new build with new 2pc
both builds are on the wowhead guide
past pivot
Spam is a relative term
marble schooner
i have to run a couple keys tomorrow after reset cause i didnt run any 1st week
im at 1.9k atm
then im set for 4pc
brittle crow
im at 1k because im too afraid to harass guildies for key groups
olive wraith
Just time some 28s
marble schooner
Just time some 28s
wait true
brittle crow
somebody in here run keys with me uwu
olive wraith
Just pug
olive wraith
All I do is pug
marble schooner
running your own keys is the way ye
olive wraith
It only gets worse as the season progresses
brittle crow
you are a more resilient soul than i
marble schooner
pugs are less than human sometimes
dw you can time anything below 20s with questionable life forms
marble schooner
i was gonna say as long as you get ppl with enough ilvl, but im stuck at 456ilvl cause ive got 2 items this whole week after running like 17 keys
urban nimbus
Hope leveling a new warrior to 70 and missing week 2 is not worth stress over.
marble schooner
thats basically top 3
spare otter
Feel like pugs are already really bad compared to last week
marble schooner
like 1k less dps than top 3 feels good
olive wraith
Feel like pugs are already really bad compared to last week
Bursting can be really bad if no one pays attention
past pivot
Feel like pugs are already really bad compared to last week
First tyr week. Expected roughness
next canopy
Not a bad spot to be in.
upbeat plume
yeah there are a solid number of fights in the raid that feel really fun to blast as fury like igra
somber lance
maybe an odd question, but i got a big problem with my downtime since i use the new t31 set, my whirlwind has 5,3 seconds cooldown and my rage regeneration sucks and so i´ll have 1-2 seconds downtime in between my cooldowns for whirlwind rampage and slam. any tipps or tricks?
frank dawn
Make sure you are hitting Bloodthirst every other gcd to start
That’s usually where most people are messing up to have downtime regularly
Bt - slam - bt - ramp - bt etc
olive wraith
Even jus the visuals are cool
Wait did you play swgoh?
merry star
If I don't have enough rage to Rampage on my last charge of Furious Bloodthirst, should I wait for rage to rampage and then send the buffed bloodbath or just send a regular bloodthirst?
summer quail
press slam or whirlwind, and if you can't then you can walk out and charge
somber lance
Make sure you are hitting Bloodthirst every other gcd to start
okay i´ll try that, and the problem with ww cleave? do i have not enough haste?
merry star
the situation is that, slam and whirlwind both on cd and I have literally nothing to press
so I go back and charge?
frank dawn
okay i´ll try that, and the problem with ww cleave? do i have not enough haste?
Do you have meat cleaver talented? The cook down should always be the number of gcds you cleave for
Because it all scales with your haste
valid drum
the situation is that, slam and whirlwind both on cd and I have literally nothin...
Just bt
somber lance
Do you have meat cleaver talented? The cook down should always be the number of ...
yeah meat cleaver is talented but with 5.3 seconds cooldown i can take about 5 casts in between
summer quail
you must be doing something weird
merry star
you must be doing something weird
me?
modest epoch
am i supposed to always wait for blood bath before using a 2peice proc?
summer quail
no, the guy who says he can fit in 5 abilties between each ww
modest epoch
or is one or two blood thirst okay
summer quail
i just don't see how
summer quail
am i supposed to always wait for blood bath before using a 2peice proc?
yes
thin cliff
shouldn't be possible - WW's cooldown scales down at the same rate your GCD does. After WW's GCD ends, you can fit exactly 4 GCDs in before WW is usable again
summer quail
exactly
thin cliff
and I mean, I GUESS it's 5 GCDs, if you count WW's initial GCD
olive wraith
or is one or two blood thirst okay
In the off chance you don’t have anything else to press it’s okay to press bt
Or you can charge weave
brittle crow
charge weaving is cursed
somber lance
after 4 gcds i´ll still have a bit cooldown on WW maybe 0.8-1 second, so i can use another Bt or rampage
brittle crow
thats not a thing unless ur counting the initial gcd of whirlwind
u are either going insane or have a creepypasta version of wow
somber lance
bad version could be possible, maybe one or two add ons, weak aura´s are not working right and slow the game or so
brittle crow
whirlwind's cooldown is hasted meaning u can always fit 4 gcds inbetween casts and it lines up perfectly
regardless of ur haste value
fervent turtle
hi! anyone knows if/how i can set the alpha of the healthbar to 0 to only have the castbar visible?
in plater*
modest epoch
ty
somber lance
okay, i had testet again and now it lines up perfectly, maybe some not updates add ons or something
plucky wedge
whats the leggo details to sim? anyone able to msg me?
next canopy
Wait did you play swgoh?
What u talking about Willis
snow edge
I wouldn't stress about where the leggo places us relative to other classes until actual tuning has been announced
The minimal tuning on wowhead today is almost certainly just a taste, since they won't want to muck around guilds still hard progging this week (potentially next week)
I'm sure Archi probably has some thoughts on it
left perch
tomorrow is the day
You kill fire birb?
tepid scroll
Can you put shadowflame on cloak?
slim coral
You kill fire birb?
no I'm not in RWF
left perch
no I'm not in RWF
Obviously that was yesterday idk if u method gamer tho
slim coral
yeah bro I'm in method
left perch
huga
tepid scroll
Anyone check out the BIS list wowhead has listed?
empty grove
question for my sim geeks
i just done a gear compare https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sr4q1peLmu8fwxbimTTs1s
is aug trink off yrak really that busted?
olive wraith
Short answer yes
fading bane
its the best overall trinket in teh game
modest condor
it did 9.3% of my damage on volcoross lol
rare halo
do we use dancing blades or titanic rage for council?
edgy widget
Anyone check out the BIS list wowhead has listed?
it'll need to be updated to account for the axe, but don't worry too much about BiS, just sim and use the best of what you have available
edgy widget
do we use dancing blades or titanic rage for council?
I would go Dancing, you're not actually getting that much multitarget damage out of OF
rare halo
cool cool ty
fading bane
there is no raid boss where you go Titanic Rage
maybe Tindral if you REALLY need the OF dmg
no Dancing Blades is a massive ST loss
pure echo
Is earthen writ simming higher than wafting/sophic for anyone else? it's like .5% better for me in sims
serene vessel
fellas, is subway even a real fast food joint? I swear it's a money laundering scheme now. You ever walk into a subway? No one eats there
edgy widget
there is no raid boss where you go Titanic Rage
Tindral, Gnarlroot, and M Igira
fading bane
if you really lack AoE you can go it there, but i personally just go Dancing Blades for the ST
pure echo
idk if thats worth or not
serene vessel
you take it with
do you even see people get it to go though? I swear it's a front now
fading bane
dont really have many of them where i live
edgy widget
if you really lack AoE you can go it there, but i personally just go Dancing Bla...
On lower difficulties doesn't really matter as much, but the litmus is generally "what are you majorly using OF for? ST or AoE"
quartz lichen
Whenever OF buffs BT/BB is it better to hit BB instead of BT? 
fading bane
BB
quartz lichen
brittle crow
robot wants me to gem in primalist crit gem?
i thought we wanted vers but i trust the robot
fading bane
you never hold cds
you just move further to drop balls
then pick late to line it up
they line up better and better for each intermission
brittle crow
damn is that strats?
buoyant salmon
Tindral, Gnarlroot, and M Igira
on tindral i think u should use the st one personally
brittle crow
i hope i remember that
verbal kindle
Does anyone know the upgrade discount, does it work even if you sell a high item lvl? Or do you have to carry it around forever for the discount to take effect?
sullen dove
uhh presumably it should hold so long as the item becomes soulbound
but also you could just upgrade something then sell the item
fast crest
if I could only pick one secondary stat for dual purpose fury + arms, would haste be the safest option?
sullen dove
its good for both yes but you dont wanna like omega seek out haste every piece of gear
probably the most "meshing" stat between the two tho
verbal kindle
@sullen dove yeah so if you get a 486 weapon for instance, the discount will have “unlocked” forever presumably?
fast crest
i'm looking to craft something but can only choose one stat for it
sullen dove
eh did you sim different options, imo masterys not that bad either cuz fury could almost always need more mast and its pretty good on arms too
fiery thorn
on tindral i think u should use the st one personally
same
sullen dove
but i mean ig just also depends if you have over 35% or so haste you might want to look into other stats, but if youre under that prolly just send haste
not that sims wont tell you to go higher than 35% its just a pretty healthy average amount to be at, and if youre not at it you probably would like to be closer
compact knot
gm swordish
sullen dove
hello 
angry helmet specialization of the 
class
fast crest
i'm pretty well below 35%, though most of my gear so far is replaceable as i get ilvl upgrades
compact knot
hello <:Fury:592471982650687519> angry helmet specialization of the <:pipes:5849...
born to pipe with funny helmet spec, forced to pipe with the shield
fast crest
sims keep telling me to go for vers > haste so i'm mostly just following that
compact knot
i kinda CRANKeD on that smolderon
sullen dove
yea i mean if youre kinda low ilvl then you dont have to worry about stats as much, but yea haste will prolly be ok to pick if you dont have as much
compact knot
im so pissed they wouldnt lust first intermission though
sullen dove
kek
fast crest
35% seems pretty high to have at baseline though i'm not sure what item level / gear you're running with
compact knot
i would have done 12k more dps than i did
sullen dove
eh looks like i have 33% baseline rn
but just generally around the mid 30's is nice
also haste just makes you feel good when you hit buttons, so not having quite enough could be slightly more noticeable than just dmg buffs
clever path
did they finish crafted axes yet
sullen dove
dis me with a vers flask
fast crest
yeah totally i prefer playing with more haste
compact knot
double wafting APM STONKS
fast crest
i wonder if there's a breakpoint for whirlwind ?
sullen dove
or wiat wrong ring
mast was kinda 
still not perfect or anything i think i boutta recraft some shit to vers/mast now that im more situated to play fury
modest condor
what do you mean with breakpoint for whirlwind?
fast crest
is the whirlwind cd always = 4 gcd ?
compact knot
while doing rotation
fast crest
like scales on both sides with haste
modest condor
5* gcds but yes
sullen dove
yea
fiery thorn
fast crest
sorry 5*
compact knot
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/766349238941777931/1131266466289819779/...
not enough mastery or vers:(
narrow narwhal
100/100/100/100
modest condor
126/126/126/126 or gtfo
thorny peak
prot spec after u get certain trinket/weapons?
sullen dove
fast crest
mast was kinda <:critcake:984549832511344640>
interesting your ui shows these in order of crit, haste, vers, mastery
sullen dove
are you gonna play prot? and get a shield?
fast crest
mine shows crit, haste, mastery, vers
thorny peak
no i mean for vault since it only loses out on 2handers and smold trinket
sullen dove
uh... i mean you lootspec out of vault what you need
if youre playing dps and want 2handers and trinkets, do arms, or are you saying you already have enough 2 handers and all the trinkets you could ever want
sullen dove
i cant imagine its better than augury but ik it was rly good on ptr
thorny peak
im just thinking off the top of my head tbh im sure augury is better
sullen dove
yea i mean.. unless you want to get shields or tank trinkets out of your vault to play tank, almost certainly do you not want to open vault in prot
compact knot
most people just get 4 belts and 2 wrists anyways (i havent had a single bad vault all pansion)
compact knot
my luck early on in the tier is crazy
compact knot
first vault 489 rezans eye
compact knot
last tiers firsy vault, highest ilvl mark of dargrul with leech (when it was considered bis btw)
sullen dove
first vault this tier
sullen dove
idk, bloodmallets also usually just terrible
i think its supposedly like ripped from a bis list
balmy shore
Tindral, Gnarlroot, and M Igira
man my dumbass brought dancing blades like a dummy
sullen dove
"this is the rankings when youre wearing the best perfect gear in the game"
just sim droptimizer and itll do it up
sullen dove
-1400 dps vs 489 augury and +800 vs 483 brand
but like thats just for my current gear so w/e
maybe better at higher
spark maple
whjat ilvl for normal and hc raid
sullen dove
ilvl to join or the gear that drops
if the former be 480 and get insta invited ezpz, if the latter 454-463 norm and 467-476 heroic
compact knot
augury 1324 dps loss from 489 rezans eye for me
sullen dove
wack
young swan
augury best trinket in game
sullen dove
no trinket can FEEL as good thats for sure
you see angry dragon face in your buffs and 
young swan
does aoe dam
spark maple
if the former be 480 and get insta invited ezpz, if the latter 454-463 norm and ...
im 445 lol
sullen dove
neurons activated
young swan
automatically better than signet
sullen dove
idk i mean you might be able to get into normal wit dat
young swan
also can highroll augury
compact knot
rezans also kinda do aoe
young swan
get it during cd's and it owns
sullen dove
if not some low m+ loot could help
compact knot
it can dot the mobs you arent targgeting
sullen dove
im under the assumption augury did the same damage no matter when it happens
just more dam in aoe
the "up to 290k dmg" thing
compact knot
i thought might of the ocean would be really good this tier on aoe
young swan
it and mirror are both insane for aoe
sullen dove
vial maybe slightly better cuz it had mastery statstick instead of crit
young swan
i think damage trinkets are better
young swan
they get amped by the 50%
young swan
yeah but damage trinkets work for the 50% and are just better anyways
not saying might is bad
but I think theres better trinkets
compact knot
i think its a double on use boss ONG
mirror on pull, might of the ocean in first intermission, mirror second intermission, might third one
INSANe VALUe
lucid owl
mirror is so weird to use in keys. 3 mins feels so long to get back lol
lavish sage
cleave or nah on tindral
real sapphire
so is fury as bad as the forums make it sound for m+? or is it a bunch of sky is falling garbo
real sapphire
tossed between my fury and my dk but honestly, i freaking hate the dk rotation lol
naive swallow
oblique trail
Yes
lucid owl
Im having fun with fury and arms. i just think im messing up fury somehow to be doing as bad as i am. i dont think i can hit 200k overall easily. and i think im well enough geared to do it
rotund steppe
me neither
lucid owl
i think im messing up uses of my cds or something in packs. or maybe im delaying too long and im not really bursting high enough. but also a 20 this week with a rogue/bm hunter makes it hard for me to really have time to blow stuff up if im messing up
modest condor
fury cooldowns are kinda big in m+ this season
pulling around your cds vs not is a huge difference
lucid owl
i have 4pc. im just slow on using TR + avatar idk its awkward cause im trying to get used to using 2 sep binds on avatar and reckless cause all last season i had them macrod
primal bane
I took the attack speed buff on OF instead of the 10% OF dmg with WW buff. I also dropped slaughtering strikes for Bloodcraze and that boosted my boss dmg without really losing much AOE
So helped my overall especially on a tyran week
hard widget
Realistically if you do your rotation correctly your burst will be lower than if you do it "incorrectly" but overall damage will be higher by doing it properly
In m+ that is
modest condor
man i bursted over 1.6mil in a pull today
primal bane
Aug? In group?
rotund steppe
huh
hard widget
Im not saying its impossible, im just saying you might see people pull higher instant burst
modest condor
yeah was with aug
rotund steppe
man my max its 700k
hard widget
But most of the times thats because the opener is wrong
lucid owl
yeah i think highest ive hit and noticed is 750k. but also im sure im messing up all over the place
modest condor
i reck-charge-OF
i play dancing blades so reck charge ww ramp of roar
rotund steppe
oh
rotund steppe
imma try DB
primal bane
That’s the attack speed talent I mentioned I just forgot the name
modest condor
1.5mil dps over 10 seconds http://puu.sh/JVs21/ca8fc405c4.png
hard widget
Can u link that log
urban nimbus
Does the Black Rock Racial bonus count multistack of busting to be multiple debuffs removed?
oblique trail
My variance playing with a guildie and a pug tank is like 360k overall in throne with a guildie, dropping to 260k overall with a pug
modest condor
360k? is that with aug?
snow edge
How long packs live is another important factor; lower keys you might not get the full value of reck - ramp - of - dr - globals - avatar
shell jackal
closest ive had to 260k has been 244k in a 22 EB, am i playing wrong? lmao
think i might be
modest condor
throne has a huge damage amp
shell jackal
(that was with an aug)
modest condor
that boosts your overall by like 50k
shell jackal
ah yeah ok fair, true
primal bane
Throne has dmg amp also EB has dmg amp
modest condor
yeah but the one in throne is significantly bigger
modest condor
20x damage vs like 3x in eb or something
primal bane
EB has two bosses with dmg amp the tree and the last boss
brittle crow
i play dancing blades so reck charge ww ramp of roar
sell me on dancing blades
primal bane
Also a lot of big pulls
modest condor
sell me on dancing blades
prio damage good
brittle crow
but my pad?
lavish sage
we dont hold any cds on tindral?
brittle crow
i want to pad
modest condor
then play TR
shell jackal
i start tindral with just reck/ST and then blow everything up on roots
primal bane
I always hold OF for roots
shell jackal
yea
oblique trail
<:keks:936231610850897992>
Holding OF for roots not only kills them but frees you as well
lavish sage
what about pull
primal bane
It’s only like 3-4 secs
lavish sage
hold all cds til roots?
modest condor
i start tindral with nothing and then watch my screen freeze for 10 seconds while everybody else kills the roots
primal bane
Yes
shell jackal
god i love doing tindral as a warrior
shell jackal
i start tindral with nothing and then watch my screen freeze for 10 seconds whil...
too real
modest condor
must be a weakaura or addon because i've never had that issue with my new pc before
shell jackal
even solid computers just stop for 10 seconds because everyone holds cds for roots
modest condor
even the motes in fated didnt drop my fps
serene vessel
must be a weakaura or addon because i've never had that issue with my new pc bef...
u using adibags?
modest condor
no
modest condor
yeah i know about the stutter on pull, that's not what i'm talking about
primal bane
I hear it’s due to the platforms loading in the background
modest condor
i'm talking about my whole pc just freezing as long as the roots are up
rotund steppe
i play dancing blades so reck charge ww ramp of roar
my bretheren in rampage, idk what u doing but my max its 500-600k
oblique trail
Yeah thats fucked
modest condor
my bretheren in rampage, idk what u doing but my max its 500-600k
17 mob pull with lust and aug 🙃
modest condor
double dragon in front of the third boss in lower dawn
shell jackal
17 mob pull with lust and aug 🙃
hahahaha
rotund steppe
5 target dummies gonna do nuthin
shell jackal
relatable
brittle crow
17 mob pull with lust and aug 🙃
where do i find epic gamer parties like this
oblique trail
Probably premade
modest condor
yeah my guildies
hard widget
I mean taking a random 10 sec window is not really something good to compare
No offense
shell jackal
me too 
rotund steppe
man i had a rogue in tott that said that ink blast left a pool
modest condor
it's not random, it's during my burst
modest condor
also it's without the aug amplification
lavish sage
so u can OF and rampage
modest condor
ingame i did more than that
rotund steppe
and had to explain that he wasnt cleaning the pools
shell jackal
i think silm knows what he's doing boys
lavish sage
or do i wait until theyre out for reck
modest condor
rip
lavish sage
think i messed up cus i didnt get a good burst
modest condor
i got mine today
misty helm
ive seen 2-3 same thing couldnt trade because they were upgrades
even if they wernt better
rotund steppe
full day of farming BRH no neck drop
my sims touch themselves to that neck
never thought of that hmm
keen kindle
If I get a sandglass or a mirrior I'm gonna cream
oblique trail
I've passed on both norm and hc branch
misty helm
<:wicked:937093876857045012>
D;
oblique trail
Didn't get mythic one
shell jackal
misty helm
its okay I lost every roll on loot both weeks
shell jackal
i got stinky lucky in the first week lul
modest condor
ive been doing the occasional throne hoping for the trinket as well
but im not just gonna sit 5 hours a day in queue to farm it
oblique trail
I feel the need to
misty helm
I need to join a RCL guild istg
oblique trail
When all I got is a 447 vial from ssn2
shell jackal
got the sword off that smolderon kill, too. paladin didn't want it, traded it to me
modest condor
it would definitely help, im playing double passive now
imagine my burst if i had might of the ocean
oblique trail
I've played double passive since like
misty helm
oblique trail
The 3rd day of s3
shell jackal
is might better than signet brand/rezans?
modest condor
in m+ yes
shell jackal
damn okay
modest condor
rezans is pure st
shell jackal
i gotta get me that
rotund steppe
it would definitely help, im playing double passive now <:critcake:9845498325113...
im still using
final birch
swear either I'm lucky or u guys are super unlucky
modest condor
and signet brand requires staying in combat
oblique trail
Atm I'm using 483 rezan and hourglass
final birch
I got both mirror and might
oblique trail
Signet fuck sucks in throne
final birch
and I did like 5 tots
shell jackal
im still using <:critcake:984549832511344640>
primal bane
I’m rocking 483 Razans and 483 mirror
modest condor
and I did like 5 tots
i got 3 vials in the first 10 underrots i did last season
sometimes you're just lucky
primal bane
Praying for heroic smoldy trink in vault
oblique trail
swear either I'm lucky or u guys are super unlucky
I've been lucky with like everything else in m+
final birch
I got vial in first +20 I did
oblique trail
Except trinkets of the on use variety
modest condor
i got augury tho
modest condor
which is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in m+
holyshit that trinket is broken
shell jackal
Praying for heroic smoldy trink in vault
praying for you my brother in rampage
oblique trail
Yeah well
final birch
I'm not getting augury...
oblique trail
I lost augury because trial and to a ret
final birch
Unless I get it in vault lol
oblique trail
Cried to sleep
modest condor
we were still discussing whether signet brand was allowed on prog because of the self damage, so everybody was talking about like "this is bis if we're not allowed to use signet brand"
final birch
on god I'm like 10th in line person to get signet and augury in my group
oblique trail
Getting mythic vaults until I get augury is a debuff
modest condor
augury blasts harder in aoe
shell jackal
someone needs to make that brad pitt juggling meme but with all the icons of all the trinkets from this season
oblique trail
Have you figured out yet what increased by crits mean
modest condor
lol
urban nimbus
What makes Dwarf better than Dark Iron Dwarf racial wise?
molten relic
Have you figured out yet what increased by crits mean
is it the cap of damage?
modest condor
no but my guess is that it means when the trinket crits it increases the cap
shell jackal
might, rezan, augury, branch, rageheart, signet brand, ashes
final birch
no way rageheart is this good
shell jackal
nah but for the memes
molten relic
Augury
final birch
ik it slaps for tanks
molten relic
not rageheart
urban tapir
feelsgoodman
modest condor
which one is rageheart?
final birch
other fyrakk trinket
molten relic
tank pulsing aoe one
oblique trail
Fyrakk tank trinket
molten relic
from fyrak
final birch
with shield
modest condor
oh the tank one
i think it got nerfed just a bit too much for it to be good for us
deft dagger
anyone know the simc paste for fyr'alath?
young swan
gear compare
modest condor
do a gear compare sim and yoink it from there
young swan
that too
deft dagger
i tried it just breaks and doesn't count as a weapon? idk ill post a screenshot
primal bane
Wait I thought increased by crit meant the more crit rating you have the more dmg it does
Like chaos bolt for locks
shell jackal
it seems pretty good for m+ but
augury is prolly just better
plus that vers is kinda nice
modest condor
yeah it was looking bis for us for a while but then they nerfed it
snow edge
Augury is just flat out better
sudden tusk
was debating running that in M+ if i get it
oblique trail
I kinda want to get benched so I can get 2 hc vaults..
sudden tusk
with augry
shell jackal
does anyone know our caps on mastery/vers yet btw? like when do the DRs start
oblique trail
Early season struggles
sudden tusk
5600
shell jackal
and is it so high that its irrelevant right now because of how early it is
alright cheers
shell jackal
tryna figure out if ive got way too much haste/crit and if they're not relevant at all & i should replace
deft dagger
main_hand=,id=206448,ilevel=496,enchant_id=6655
keeps saying idont have a weapon equip in the MH slot?
shell jackal
i do sim, but sims tell me ''this is your best gear'', just feels, idk, slow? sometimes i have dead air in my rotation, which makes me think i need haste, but sims say thats wrong
deft dagger
idk why its just broken for me lmao i must be messing something up
shell jackal
so either im simming wrong or im doing my rotation wrong
modest condor
keeps saying idont have a weapon equip in the MH slot?
is your raidbots set to latest?
snow edge
tryna figure out if ive got way too much haste/crit and if they're not relevant ...
Feel doesn’t equal performance
deft dagger
is your raidbots set to latest?
im assuming so? where would i see this lmao
shell jackal
ok thank you, how do i fix it? haha
maybe its just me being used to how fast we were in s2 w/ the haste/mast builds
modest condor
misty helm
yknow thats helpful
urban nimbus
Bloodmallot when factoring in racial dps differences uses the racial orc ability and troll ability right?
misty helm
had it on weekly
modest condor
weekly is bait imo
deft dagger
http://puu.sh/JVs6u/e3cd5e9242.png
im dumb bro mb
modest condor
it's the safest, but you're so behind on changes
like imagine a patch goes live and there's an error in the apl or the way some trinket works (happens every patch) and you're simming with weekly
you'll be using the wrong version for the whole week
shell jackal
surely we'll get it wednesday
shell jackal
my guild wants to give it to a blood dk and it's making me a bit mald
i spent like 700k on mats already lmao
rotund steppe
its personal loot
misty helm
is it confirmed it is???
I honestly hope so
if not automatic mald if I lose the roll
young swan
it almost certainly is
lavish sage
MT or M+ talents for tindral?
i feel like m+ for OF ww stacks yea?
or at least TR over db?
young swan
do u want to pad or do boss dam
young swan
dancing blades
shell jackal
i run MT
lavish sage
k il just ww before roots then
final birch
How much is fury losing now to grab ww?
shell jackal
because blasting adds is fun but then it helps on boss dam for shield break/ST
misty helm
lol
lavish sage
spark maple
NO
meager gyro
true sapphire
sim
shell jackal
yes that's why i asked the question, to be told to sim i already did that. i think sometimes its worth double, triple, quadruple or quintuple checking by asking the gamers in here
my bad tho
true sapphire
Just listen to robot, it will change next week when you get different gear.
Buy the 2* to save money for now and just listen to robot.
oblique trail
So far I've only had Wafting be on top since 2p in sims
But Sophic should just be better if all you do is M+
true sapphire
But don't worry I won't tell you to sim next time, I'll ignore you.
shell jackal
cheers banezi
hahahah no need to be rude frank! just a friendly bit of banter, gamer!
meager gyro
hero tier helm about to be 4 piece and get out of 
prison
shell jackal
hero tier helm <:xan:1094127979703062558> about to be 4 piece <:Fury:59247198265...
congrats
sudden spoke
Are fury warriors still macroing together Rav and Avatar?
true sapphire
no
oblique trail
No, and you don't use Ravager anymore either
true sapphire
Not with current tier at least
young swan
who the eff was macroing avatar and rav to begin with
sudden spoke
oh wait i mean rek
young swan
the answer is still no
sudden spoke
thanks!
meager gyro
fury needs PI get priest 🧌
covert blaze
if you have two warriors you need God
shell jackal
hahahahah damnit ur right
shell jackal
if you have two warriors you need God
oblique trail
Did a Throne earlier with another Fury warrior
Who kept charging into packs because he had CDs or something
no wonder people think that every warrior is dented
spark maple
i charge into everything
shell jackal
exactly
charge up? using it.
to be fair tho we are the most stereotypical class in any MMO
''zugg zugg'' is our motto
dense elbow
Zug Zug is Zug
shell jackal
Zug Zug is Zug
👌 exactly
spark maple
to be fair tho we are the most stereotypical class in any MMO
hunters way more than warriors
shell jackal
i dunno man, human male warrior seems to be the most basic bitch go-to
dense elbow
I present, Holy Priest.
shell jackal
its okay it's 4:30am for me and i'm pretty sure my brain cells are dying
not making much sense myself
dense elbow
ToT farm will do that to you
true sapphire
hahahah no need to be rude frank! just a friendly bit of banter, gamer!
Apologies bud in between pulls in raid dont know why I let that frustration come through
spark maple
where is gorehowl drop from
shell jackal
uhh rise i think?
dense elbow
Rise
true sapphire
it wouldn't let me apologise to you but i played the system
love the C word
shell jackal
hahahah, a friend recently told me they hate that brits use it and prefer it when aussies say it instead
apparently it hits different
spark maple
why did blizz make the winding slitherdrake the most annoying fucking mount ever
u cant stay still for 2 seconds without it SPAMMING ITS SOUND
lavish sage
leggo becomes avail tmrw ya?
dusky pulsar
today
junior gale
on reset
molten relic
do we drop ashen and massacre on heroic fyrak?
dusky pulsar
reset (which is tomorrow)
today yes
spark maple
pog i work from home tmrw, i can grind
junior gale
what are time zones
lavish sage
time zones dont exist
dense elbow
do we drop ashen and massacre on heroic fyrak?
If adds gotta die, then yes, meatcleaver is a must 
junior gale
my time of 10:30pm is the correct time and any other times are for beta losers
oblique trail
do we drop ashen and massacre on heroic fyrak?
Yes, it's not a big loss to drop Ashen + Massa
And there is enough uptime of adds to make up for it
shell jackal
Go to bed, the bugs are calling for sustanance
think you're right, i'm getting declined from every key because i don't have BL and i'm not a havoc DH
might be time for bedge
dense elbow
Only silly ppl up, ye, go to bed
molten relic
Yes, it's not a big loss to drop Ashen + Massa
bet ty
quartz viper
I wish we got a BL
dense elbow
Nah, you don't
quartz viper
I mean, it definitely has it's perks to have one
oblique trail
Rn it's not a BL that keeps warriors from being picked
dense elbow
Sure, now continue the spiel. Ask for baseline shockwave and so on. Finish with AoE combatress
quartz viper
^^ You are not wrong
quartz viper
Sure, now continue the spiel. Ask for baseline shockwave and so on. Finish with ...
What?
dense elbow
9/10 times, the discussion ends with that. Cause heroism isn't enough, you need CR.
Our stun cost too much to take.
quartz viper
Oh. Nah that doesn't bother me.
dense elbow
You know the drill
dusky pulsar
9/10 times, the discussion ends with that. Cause heroism isn't enough, you need ...
I agree shockwave shouldnt be on the end of the class tree
dense elbow
See?
quartz viper
Lol.
modest condor
our stun costs almost nothing to take
quartz viper
I just want to feel more useful on affixes. Our CC is generally fine for me.
dense elbow
Hero would do that?
oblique trail
Afflicted is the only really ass affix for warrior
quartz viper
No this is different statement.
dense elbow
Make it wrecking, then that affix is fine. Tho, we are not really needed
Always enough CC, allows us to focus CC the pack
oblique trail
Yeah Shattering is just there if you're in a pug and they're dogshit at consistently taking care of them
Who knows
Maybe eventually they make Wrecking work
(Or kill Incorp)
Also D2
Farm Throne/Rise with me and trade me an on-use
I don't have one
I am incredibly down bad
cursive garnet
Doing first new raid run on my alt war, I'm still fully in last tier's gear
Should I take Wrecking on Tindral/fyrakk?
oblique trail
Sure
cursive garnet
don't know if worth
oblique trail
It does like 240k(?) in one global
young swan
its worth
oblique trail
Which is a lot
cursive garnet
Thx
fading bane
Farm Throne/Rise with me and trade me an on-use
XDD
sullen dove
idk i checked fyrakk kill and im slam did like around 1.1mil
oblique trail
I'm so fucking desperate
fading bane
maybe next week if i need weeklies who knows
sullen dove
and that was just this week
oblique trail
It's 6 am
sullen dove
i dont think wrecking is better than 2 crushing force on fyrakk
oblique trail
And I'm already queuing throne
sullen dove
unless youre somehow not killing shield
sullen dove
proly tindral tho cuz you do it twice and with a damage amp
oblique trail
ok but I'm not that unhinged
sullen dove
def hot doggy fyrakk
oblique trail
idk i checked fyrakk kill and im slam did like around 1.1mil
That's with current tier
fading bane
i dont think wrecking is better than 2 crushing force on fyrakk
you wouldnt drop CF for Wrecking on fyrakk tho
oblique trail
They said last tier
sullen dove
idk only realistic thing to drop for wrecking is like pain and gain which did get kinda nerfed but heal feelsgoodman
silent gazelle
Revvez took wrecking
fading bane
id drop Cruel Strikes or Pain and Gain for Wrecking
depends if u pref a bit more dmg or more survivability
sullen dove
im sure they needed free shield dam sure, but over the course of the entire fight 30% slam dam will outweigh a single wrecking throw, if your goal is parse
sullen dove
cruel strike
dense elbow
1% crit is 1% crit, after all
sullen dove
idk i mean, i would imagine even tho it seems small 1% crit over an entire fight especially one with a lot of adds probably will still be stronger than a single 200k wreck
regardless of execute dam, just is a kind of if you need the damage on shield when you need it
but i dont think its like a MUST HAVE like it was for raszageth
200% damage buff to break shield and it did it 3 times
vs a single use with no damage buff
fading bane
CF is 900 dps, Cruel Strikes is 960
either way
u dont lose much going Wrecking over either
id also rather have Pain and Gain than both those talents for the healing
dense elbow
One day, I will sim 200k too 
sullen dove
dense elbow
It's only a +10k?
fading bane
10k is a lot of dmg
sullen dove
5% bruther 
nova garnet
It's only a +10k? <:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
Yes, even by napkin math
It's pretty bad
500k(1.1 for mark)/120 = 5k per second
30k /15 = 2k
It's like 7k before crit
Lmao
Single target
dense elbow
Heh
nova garnet
Say you're rocking 40% crit, it is like 10k dps
dense elbow
SR
nova garnet
It's just how It be.
dense elbow
sinful spoke
nova garnet
just did a 19 ad with 3 warriors
Tiny pp
dense elbow
Not 3 fury?
nova garnet
Jakey uses to do 5x prot warrior 20+ keys
sinful spoke
we +3 it
dense elbow
Small pp
sullen dove
tanks never get targetted
dense elbow
Soon it is going to be a failed key
sullen dove
only 2 reflecto warriors
dense elbow
Godspeed Mr Blaze
fading bane
Jakey uses to do 5x prot warrior 20+ keys
We was doing this in bfa. Cleared all of uldir hc with only warriors. Also did a 15 key with only warriors (15 then is 20 now)
slim coral
Just wish private auras werent a thing
fading bane
So long ago now
slim coral
guilds will find a way around it and it's just more annoying to use macros
fading bane
Balls on smolderon would just be so much better if you could just use a weakaura
It doesnt show as a debuff. Its just a arrow on your head
modest condor
5 fury warriors keys are the only good keys
fading bane
I had the last 2 swell guys in throne
Healer died
And i lived doing 60k hps
Fury healing brrrr
modest condor
yeah kinda crazy what fury can do
fading bane
50k*
fading bane
another throne another no trinket..
gg. 5 times
young swan
woah @hasty path in the key!
lavish sage
idk what that says
fading bane
It has base leech
young swan
^
fading bane
Its the leech pants from lower
atomic void
are shoulders
oblique trail
Isn't that the plate shoulders though
fading bane
Idk i cant read that
oblique trail
It is
atomic void
the megadungeon ones
oblique trail
gg. 5 times
Ineed mirror
so I can cheese even higher overall on ozumat
did 330k this dung and peak 360k
fading bane
Lmao
atomic void
i think was a mistake or bug
oblique trail
need to reach 400k
atomic void
so i go to the catalyst and keeps the enchants
oblique trail
it's so gg
nova garnet
My hunter almost does more dmg than my warrior overall
Plate dps bad
fading bane
I get it on wed tho
nova garnet
Leather mail DPS good
oblique trail
idk maybe I should just go back to my rogue I geared before s3
and play that
brown class bad
lego bad
nova garnet
@oblique trail go back to cuddling me
nova garnet
brown class bad
All plate dps are mid af rn
fading bane
Just delete the class, its so bad
nova garnet
Lmao
oblique trail
true
fading bane
Need 50% buff on god
oblique trail
warrior doesn't evne belong in F tier
fading bane
Maybe more
nova garnet
warrior doesn't evne belong in F tier
Be vulpera, /lay
Get cope energy
oblique trail
I would go vulpera
but it's -3k dps
numbers just speak for themselevs
can't beat it
nova garnet
Tbf
No one is bringing you to raid for your dps
Vulpera battleshout is just as good
oblique trail
They do if I'm top 5 compared to the rest atm
nova garnet
nova garnet
They do if I'm top 5 compared to the rest atm
Your DPS are defectice
Return them to walmart
nova garnet
"lucky"
oblique trail
Assa rogue didn't crit his kingbane ticks