#fury

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inland flame
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But I get ya

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There we go

edgy widget
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still seems oddly high, but if you're gaining enough ilevel, sure why not

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for 2+2 MT I would actually recommend using the T30 RB build + OF instead of ONS

icy galleon
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so is it only possible to get one legendary axe

edgy widget
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sims aren't very well setup for it, but it gives you all the MT tools, and there's no real reason to rotationally prioritize Bloodthirst yet since you don't have CDR from 4p

edgy widget
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even if you could somehow loot two of them (you can't absent a major bug which would absolutely get fixed), you wouldn't be able to do the quest over again

young swan
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i love the stat inflation this tier

edgy widget
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dude it is wild, I was up to 40% base haste last week 💀

young swan
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its so nuts

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i picked up the 1500 haste ring

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from mythic larry

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and now my haste is just giga

fading bane
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Dropped today

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And i just passed on it

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Just not worth over DHT one

rotund steppe
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i have the dht one on hero

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i dont even use it

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cuz the amount of haste i have its stupid already

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once i get lower haste ill use it again

sudden tusk
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the dht one is high mas low haste

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p sure

rotund steppe
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i using the waycrest one

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im recrafting one of my rings to crit vers

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lmao i gotta regem all to vers

errant pond
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Does anyone know how to disable the way its counting down how long avatar is up for on the weakaura

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I'd rather it just say when its back at all times

south kayak
young swan
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larodar

south kayak
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Oh

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You got to him?

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Gaming

young swan
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yeah he dead

south kayak
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So that’s how many bosses dead? 4?

modest condor
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sheesh

young swan
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6

south kayak
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Oh he’s harder than the green wing

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Right

young swan
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yeah it was like 30 pulls for us

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not so bad

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couldve died sooner

south kayak
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Did you pull smolderon

young swan
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yeah we're pulling him now

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fun fight

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working on getting to second intermission clean

south kayak
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Coolest looking boss

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Don’t @ me

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And I haven’t even seen hc smolderon

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I kinda miss mythic prog

snow edge
south kayak
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Spear seems like a bad idea on smolderon

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He moves a lot

edgy widget
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know when to drop it!

snow edge
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Was watching Tidal get fairly cucked a few times with his spear

edgy widget
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if you want to eke out every little last bit of damage, Spear is technically better

if you're more concerned with clean play, just take Roar, at least until you're very comfortable with the fight

snow edge
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You get pigeonholed sometimes though, like only having a few second left in damage phase with buff and need to drop ASAP

edgy widget
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na I'm an LFR hero

south kayak
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Lfr is harder than mythic tbh

edgy widget
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I'm sayin

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gettin on that determination leaderboard

south kayak
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What’s the highest stacks of determination you’ve seen

young swan
gilded pawn
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I’ve seen 4 on halon

covert blaze
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7 on raszageth

lyric bluff
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10 on n'zoth week 1

young swan
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trying to figure out timings on spear is annoying

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but im committed

south kayak
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And everyone else

young swan
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u have to get all 5

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no choice

south kayak
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Oh okay

young swan
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otherwise he gets damage

fathom quartz
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wait, why are they putting the fyrakk axe as an alt weapon cause we don't play smf? are they expecting us to use one 1h & one 2h if we use it or are they being derptastic putting that on here

young swan
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i dont have an explanation for that

south kayak
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I’m gonna play smf until I get the axe

snow edge
fathom quartz
south kayak
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Oh

covert blaze
fathom quartz
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i mean i love the meme of smf

south kayak
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Smf is bis

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Fyrrak 1h axe

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And the fist from council

meager gyro
proud bough
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Dude someone in my guild already has the legendary

snow edge
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I saw @mossy fox rock secret tech; 1h + 2h

south kayak
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The proof

south kayak
snow edge
south kayak
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My uncle works at blizzard, he said I’d get the legendary sent to me tomorrow

proud bough
south kayak
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No shot

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I don’t believe you

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You can just link it

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From the tmog tab

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Fake news

meager gyro
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armory link

proud bough
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I don't have it

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Someone in my guild has it

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like I said

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lol

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read the chat

young swan
south kayak
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Not even enchanted

young swan
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like edge of the room far

south kayak
young swan
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like u almost want to get knocked off far

brittle harness
young swan
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its ridiculous

snow edge
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Man I felt like Tidal was dropping them pretty far, and still had 4 - 5 seconds of waiting on spear

young swan
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but it works

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you still wait

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but you have enough time to maximise the buff

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cause our burst window is short

real sapphire
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how is fury looking when geared in raid? Coming back from hiatus, and the lists are all over the place. lol tossed on fury or unholy DK (only toons i have 60+)

snow edge
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There were a couple of shit pulls as well as soon as he actually got the orbs it was the melee circle and he had to run out before he could dump spear + cds

young swan
south kayak
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How are you doing in terms of dps

young swan
edgy widget
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man, c'mon

proud bough
south kayak
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I know, I’m just asking

proud bough
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I got trolled

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big sad

south kayak
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What a surprise

brittle harness
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lol

keen kindle
edgy widget
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big LFR gamer over here 🤣

proud bough
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I bought into the hype lol

snow edge
rotund steppe
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i hate raidbots sometimes

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i just got all those vers gems it told me

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now it wants mastery gems lmao

edgy widget
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I think I remember doing Sepulcher LFR for tier, idk why I did Uldir, probably got lost on the way to the gas station

south kayak
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Yeah tier is the only reason to do lfr if you don’t have it

royal wagon
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Now thr leggo is revealed is it best to go arms or fury with it?

subtle lagoon
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I've got lfr signet first week kek, still have it

vague sand
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me, rocking 460ilvl with not even a single tier piece from either patch cuz new character

pliant island
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Same

south kayak
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I got 4p in one normal raid

vague sand
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i feel naked asf entering M+

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every single roll has been like less than 50, on everything

pliant island
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I was mildly tilted, I’ll admit

vague sand
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im full tilted

pliant island
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But you know what? I’m easy solution

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Git gud

covert blaze
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Don't be on a guild that rolls gear okayge

royal wagon
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I miss personal loot

vague sand
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be me, dont be on a guild and pug

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xd

pliant island
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Ah I play too casually for anything else lol

royal wagon
vague sand
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true, cant find a good guild to progress with tho. just changed servers

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havent been looking hard enough tho, im sure once im close to 3k io itll get easier

rotund steppe
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its normal that the sim wants me to stack mastery up to infinity%?

real sapphire
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are we aiming for crafted cloak/bracers with shadowflame?

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looking at wowhead thats why im asking

snow edge
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The note in the pins sums it up pretty well

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Technically for ~most~ people, that will sim highest; however Vers bracers provide overall more benefit in M+ (again, for ~most~ people)

vague copper
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Whoho Fyrakk is dead, bringe the nerfs to broken classes please

covert blaze
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Rogue and DH deleted from the game on reset

chilly fractal
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as the great Michael Douglas once said "Mastery is good"

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He may have said "Greed is good" but I believe he meant Mastery

summer idol
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That new leg axe has good value on fury?

vagrant imp
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.....

mystic fractal
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It's a lego... it has good value on whoever can hold it...

covert blaze
edgy widget
mystic fractal
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Yeah, we can just start with that LMAO

summer idol
vocal fog
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Imagine the cd on the Leggo is 1.5 min

rotund steppe
haughty nova
gilded pawn
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Doesn’t matter

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If anything you want them to misalign so you don’t lose casts

covert blaze
edgy widget
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yeah, the current implementation is a little scuffy and actually uses it after Charge but before Reck, which may not always be perfect

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I added AoE numbers

covert blaze
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Fairkeks

gilded pawn
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Honestly

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Dk seems good

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Since you ghouls can still swing during channel

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Idk much about the class though

covert blaze
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It said 4% 30 seconds ago, i sure hope it's higher tomorrow!!!

edgy widget
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it still says 4%

covert blaze
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It didn't say 4-5 before didn't it

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I'm joking anyway

rotund steppe
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a bit sad its a channel

edgy widget
rotund steppe
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but its good tho

young swan
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yeah would be nice if you could use abilities during

south kayak
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Before my main even

covert blaze
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Got my ass damn

young swan
south kayak
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Do we know what the animation looks like

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Merees didn’t show??

young swan
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he doesnt have it yet

covert blaze
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I heard his quest progress bugged out

sullen dove
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slacker

south kayak
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He don’t?

edgy widget
sullen dove
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x3

edgy widget
fleet epoch
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there you go

edgy widget
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that's the first half of it, yeah

sinful spoke
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yall i recomend u buy the mats for the axe the prices are already going up 💀

edgy widget
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I recommend not tbh

heavy galleon
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Even on HC it's not personnal loot (weapons)

edgy widget
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they've already inflated massively, they're more likely to go down from here, and there's no guarantee you get the leggo anytime soon

south kayak
heavy galleon
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I don't like the idea of rand this and saw all new char un stuff drop it 🤣

edgy widget
heavy galleon
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Ok

covert blaze
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Will the leggo drop on reset for NA if Liquid doesn't kill it before reset?

sinful spoke
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is that how the evoker leggo worked?

heavy galleon
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Imagine a world where you can équipe gavel and this 🤣

proud bough
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Aw fuck, so Liquid has to kill it in order for it to unlock for NA?

edgy widget
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presumably no - we can hope they improved it since last time, but Evoker lego unlock was region specific

proud bough
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gotcha

edgy widget
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they aren't gonna tell us this, so we just gotta wait and find out

proud bough
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Here's to hoping 🍻

sullen dove
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yall yappin so much just cuz they didnt win

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killed not 4 minutes after saying that

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lol

covert blaze
young swan
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well

sinful spoke
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what

young swan
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dont even need to care

inland flame
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Yay NA axe now

young swan
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no cares

sinful spoke
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HAHAHAH

sullen dove
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still a question mark

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indie asf game

covert blaze
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I just gave Liquid the kill by asking that

sullen dove
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they cba to put an icon on a drop that will only be seen by 2 guilds

covert blaze
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I don't have proof but I also don't have any doubts

sinful spoke
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did yall see the clip of the liquid player clicking the extra action button and losing the race

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💀

young swan
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that didnt lose them the race

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someone exploded before that anyways

sinful spoke
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it kinda did

young swan
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it absolutely didnt

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cause they died before that anyways

rose dagger
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isn't the legendary personal?

sinful spoke
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first one isnt

young swan
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not for the first in the region

rose dagger
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ahh

plucky ice
young swan
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im just gonna pull the lego first global on tuesday

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ez

sinful spoke
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same

inland flame
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was still a ? lol

sinful spoke
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i got evoker lego will get this one too

south kayak
sullen dove
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augury too holy xeos

young swan
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oh yea im gonna rip that first global too

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but heroic

sullen dove
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well, not the first global then

young swan
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no like

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global as in gcd

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silly goose!

sullen dove
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yea, i semi understood, but i mean ppl already had augury

young swan
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keying with gromnak infected u with meat brain!

sullen dove
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the leggo wouldve been real for ripping first global

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but evidence one: first global first vault of season

covert blaze
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LFR Fyrakk is in 2 weeks right? That's gonna give every kill on a higher difficulty a slightly higher drop chance?

south kayak
sinful spoke
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Blizzard isnt in office for shit like this 💀

chilly fractal
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Its dropping for me on Tuesday

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dunno bout you guys

sinful spoke
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No me

sullen dove
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they were in office to hotfix the actual legendary itself drop off the boss and turn it into the quest item

sullen dove
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whats dn chatting

sinful spoke
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Dont (k-)now

young swan
sullen dove
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aint that the tf2 company

south kayak
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isn't that the dota 2 company

rotund steppe
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welp

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liquid killed it

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CE this tier seems hard

compact knot
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im assuming the lego isnt correctly put on simc yet

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ig we dont have any actual idea how either effects work do we

versed cipher
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so the axe is personal loot ya

compact knot
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wait nvm

rotund steppe
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we do

compact knot
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it is properly put it i see now

dapper goblet
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👩‍🦯

slim coral
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larry down baby

desert storm
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Guys any t31 Furious Bloodthirst weakaura combined with Bloodthirst like we have in t30 ?

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i want a aura that shows stacks of 2set on my BTs

olive wraith
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NA is safe!

rotund steppe
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is it? lmao

olive wraith
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Liquid is Na right

desert storm
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NA needs keybinds first lol

rotund steppe
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yeah but id if the regional unlock its they get the drop or the complete the quest

versed cipher
rotund steppe
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abd riku has to go bakcc to EU

olive wraith
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F

nova atlas
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still holding off my normal fyrakk kill to see if the unlock counts for this week's lockout too

rotund steppe
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it wont

magic hull
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Does it matter what difficult the legendary drops from now? Or will it be same ilvl regardless?

versed cipher
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na was so dog this tier lol “we could’ve won” “any pull we could’ve killed it” yeah no fucking shit

slim coral
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I hope likquid isn't tilted

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they played so fucking good

rotund steppe
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the race was so good

young swan
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best race theres ever been

slim coral
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yeah I don't think there will ever be the same

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both guilds pulling sub 10 back and forth

young swan
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there definitely will be

rotund steppe
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now i just want the legendary

edgy widget
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Who got the legendary from Liquid?

young swan
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i didnt wait around to find out

rotund steppe
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i think riku?

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or scott they were discussing it

snow edge
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Scot got it

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Not Riku

rotund steppe
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nice

young swan
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why are the blood dk's yoinking the dps weapon....

rotund steppe
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i think it was a discussion about keeping the legendary in NA

edgy widget
young swan
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honestly

young swan
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dont think riku actually plays in NA all the time

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just for the race

rotund steppe
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riku plays more in EU right?

young swan
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yeah he was/is the gm or at least officer of practice

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although i dont think they're around anymore

wanton mirage
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Just got aotc, lfg.

rotund steppe
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sick

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tbh fyrakk lore its trash

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but that fight its so good

young ether
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Haha I just bought all the mats to completely jinx myself from getting the legendary the next 4 months

rotund steppe
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lol

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in the end

slim coral
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both guilds were pulling back to back sub 5 percent pulls

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was just crazy

rotund steppe
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liquid realy won

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they got the mount lmao

slim coral
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riku didn't get it

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beacuse of the quest chain

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he wouldnt of done the quest at all for us

rotund steppe
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yeah scott got it

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but quest its still bugged

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so ye

edgy widget
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he better finish that shit tomorrow then!

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no excuses 😡

slim coral
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blizz siad they were fixing it in the blizz chat apparently

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quoting meeres

rotund steppe
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huh

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well cant wait to get it or week 1 or week 60

slim coral
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idk whatever discord blizz is in

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he posted

tardy lark
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Rwf peeps have a discord with blizz communication with regards to boss issues and so on

rotund steppe
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wait

stuck bison
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Do we need mats to craft lego ?

rotund steppe
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blizz doesnt have a GM in the arena with them anymore?

tardy lark
rotund steppe
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there used to be an invisible GM in the RWF arenas

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so people wouldnt cheat or fix bugs asap

final delta
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dumb question here, does the legendary drop from now on? or from next reset? 😮

rotund steppe
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next reset

final delta
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ok ty ❤️

rotund steppe
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(if blitz fix the quest and scott completes it ofc)

meager gyro
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yeah the guy logged so he'll need to complete it tomorrow or we doomed

edgy widget
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we don't know that's actually a requirement

meager gyro
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ok then let's tell him not to complete it until after reset and we can test that out for the rest of the community

eager radish
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Do you need to kill Fyrak before you can start the quest ?

north geyser
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if I'm not using anger management, is there any reason not to just macro avatar and recklessness to be used at the same time?

olive wraith
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Are you using t31?

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Or titanic torment

trail bane
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Technically there is always reason to Recklessness before charge, but not Avatar. But the difference is miniscule.

With the current set though you want to separate them since you want to Avatar like 4 seconds into the fight.

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I have Reck macroed to Avatar, but i use Reck on its own as well at the start of a fight

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The Macro is to use them at th same time later in a fight

north geyser
olive wraith
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Then you shouldn’t macro them

north geyser
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(still on anger management btw)

olive wraith
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Wait you said you aren’t using am?

spark maple
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wow didnt expect liquid to end 7hrs after

olive wraith
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Oh gotcha

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Could always macro ravager and rek together

north geyser
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I'm using anger management right now but I will switch to annihilator build on wednesday because I'm getting armour from the vault and surely I will not have bad luck with loot :>

olive wraith
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But hitting rek-charge is best for rage

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You can easily get 4 on reset then

trail bane
olive wraith
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2 catalyst. 1 for hitting 2k and 1 from vault

north geyser
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gonna hit 2k on wed/thu depending when i have time to do dungeons that i skipped last tyrannical week, so that's one piece. 2 catalysts (i don't have much hero-track gear though only a helmet) but I think most of the other warriors in my guild have 4 set so tier from reclears hopium

trail bane
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So its up to you, but after you get the tier and swap to Annihlator OF build you should do it

sage shadow
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Probably been asked a thousand times but is the axe gonna be on personal next week or?

olive wraith
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Probably maybe there’s a chance

buoyant salmon
spark maple
buoyant salmon
spark maple
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any idea when last boss on lfr?

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i dont think i can log in and get gear to start normal or hc to get wepon yet

tardy lark
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4 weeks I think, no? Or did they go over to new wing every week

spark maple
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rip

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i need to do emerald dream anyway i think

tidal path
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So
Leggo+gorehowl?

fervent turtle
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hey guys, would you consider it a meaningful dps loss when i play Massacre and Viscious Contempt (1/2) in M+ ?

north geyser
rare fjord
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you are cleaving that 50% empowered BB to 4 other mobs below 35% all the time

fervent turtle
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yeah thats why with massacre it would be only 25%

deep sapphire
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So do we know if the legendary axe is just going to a group loot item or reset or is it potentially going to be swapped to personal loot?

plucky ice
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there is no way it will stay grp loot considering lfr etc, unless blizz fuks up

deep sapphire
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The Leggo is gonna destroy guilds if it stays group loot.

fervent turtle
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when can we get the legendary?

deep sapphire
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On reset

fervent turtle
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ah yeah, world first was done..

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so it will be drop?

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no crafting etc.

eternal sundial
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It drops and then you craft some shit

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Then you use it

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If you look at what merees had to do

fervent turtle
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man i am really happy with this tier. Just checked the kill video, Fury among top dps, the tier set is kinda fun, we get a legendary, and all this lasts until next xpac

lavish grove
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It'll cost a lot of money xan

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Fated clueless

eternal sundial
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Super funny spec yippie

edgy widget
unreal onyx
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Pad kings

edgy widget
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I mean Fury's ST and even Execute is also pretty good now

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but the fact that you can do all that and adds on top accounts for a lot

eternal sundial
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Short form burst is good

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Fury does that

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Fury good

unreal onyx
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What I don’t understand is that fury seems to be way better than arms on nymue

hushed ocean
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Furys together strong

meager gyro
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that root trinket so fun to blast on roots during tswifty fight

unreal onyx
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But it’s just a ST fight with ST adds, no?

sullen dove
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bloodcraze dont do shit in m+ right

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you jus go like what fresh meat or ashen or somethin

eternal sundial
unreal onyx
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Or wdym

trail bane
rare fjord
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you forgot to add that another incentive is that not using OF on cd means less 150%dmg BB's

eternal sundial
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Dam is the same, arms cant perma sit to build fatality and it's all about the dam u take from the soaks

heady saffron
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lol after seeing the legendary mats cost looks like i wont be going for the leggo kek

eternal sundial
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Dont see why u wouldnt fury if u wanted to

heady saffron
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wowhead posted the items needed

unreal onyx
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Dps goldlocked

heady saffron
calm mantle
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Do we use 5 piece set tier set ?

unreal onyx
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In an ideal world no

keen kindle
unreal onyx
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But sim top gear to see what you should use

calm mantle
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Just looking at the WoWhead guide and it has 5 piece.

keen kindle
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If you have garbage as fuck luck like me.....yes

calm mantle
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What piece don't we ideally use?

keen kindle
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It's listing all 6

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*5

unreal onyx
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I think helm

strong oar
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Morning folks, are people having better luck saving Avatar and their 1.5 min CDs until the intermission phase on Smolderon, or are you just sending it from the start?

rare fjord
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shouldnt it be shoulder?

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since its so heavy on crit

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which is poopoo for us

unreal onyx
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?

heady saffron
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🤔

next hatch
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If you BL on pull in HC why would you hold your cds

strong oar
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We're saving BL to intermission

next hatch
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Why though? xD

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It's not worth... get a new RL

unreal onyx
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If you struggle with dps maybe

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But usually it’s not worth

hazy cedar
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I was saving it, felt better

quick quest
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On mythic i Just send on cd u should have it up in the intermission u bl

raw bone
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hey friends! are there any weakauras to track the time that has passed since you used OF (to know when to use avatar)

sullen latch
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is double shadowflame patch viable or should i go for the bracers? mainly m+ focused

tardy lark
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CDs on pull, delay orb pickup during intermission

empty grove
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I heard you had to absorb epic items for the leggo? is that true?

unreal onyx
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Yes

quick quest
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20 epics

young swan
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start collecting

quick quest
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Stockpile them or use the restore to get some back if u sold

meager gyro
#

I think you just need 6k dragon isle supplies

young swan
#

retrieve all ur old m+ shit that u sold

quick quest
#

Not a big deal since u can buy the rep epics

unreal onyx
young swan
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yeah i meant first week loot u dont need anymore..

rancid shoal
#

It’s not 20 epics

unreal onyx
#

Im down bad on loot

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I take anything I can get

heady saffron
#

i vendor my good gear and join lfrs in greens so i can need on everything

unreal onyx
#

Im still rocking at least 3 447 S2 items

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Trink/neck/ring and a 450 ashk in oh

heady saffron
#

437 belt and trink i just cant replace :(

fervent turtle
sudden tusk
#

if anything id make sure you buy your shadoeflame essence asap

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noones running fucking Aberrus for that shit anymore

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the rest you can afk on

hazy cedar
sudden tusk
#

really? only seen the dreaming drop

heady saffron
heady saffron
hazy cedar
sudden tusk
#

well no need to do shit while prices getting capped then

#

ez

steel horizon
#

Why is the legendary so expensive to craft holy

heady saffron
#

ill just get 2 vault weps

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dont need leggo

sudden tusk
#

i dont think they should have every added normal mats

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and make everything quest related to farm

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crafters made enough money this expansion

heady saffron
#

i thought the questline was all you had to do then i saw the wowhead post about crafting mats :s

rare fjord
#

hafta give those double gatherer profession ppl smtg to do while at work

heady saffron
#

"yah go farm 2 mil gold worth of shit or buy 10 wow tokens haha"

hazy cedar
#

I think they should have made it a questline without crafting

sudden tusk
#

we ll prices are being hard gouged

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so its not that expensive

rare fjord
#

it ist known wheter the legendary is mythic drop only

patent sinew
#

Thankfully i bought MOST of the mats before everyone started jacking the prices... but... Shadowflame Essence at like 20k each, and the Obsidian Cobrascales are going 40k each atm >.<

rare fjord
#

i never followed the evoker one

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what was the case there

wanton obsidian
steel horizon
#

They couldve atleast Made it with less Mats to craft Like.. 150 awakened fire, Warth and 50 Order alone is rly expensive

heady saffron
#

cobrascales were 80k earlier

patent sinew
#

Yikes

plucky ice
#

evoker was like 50% cheaper based on wowhead comments lmao, or more

sudden tusk
#

i mean because that was for one new class

patent sinew
#

Well... Evoker is 1 class... this is DK's Pallys and Warriors

sudden tusk
#

this one is for pre existing classes

plucky ice
#

melee gets fucked again

fervent turtle
rare fjord
wanton obsidian
#

ya but most other specs have uncapped aoe on demand

#

just feels awful being one of the few specs with hard target caps still

heady saffron
#

is it str/agi?

torn shale
tardy lark
#

roar is uncapped

heady saffron
#

rest in piss surv hunters and enh shamans

edgy widget
quick quest
wanton obsidian
#

spec relies on roar and ravager for uncapped aoe

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which was fine last tier

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but feels much worse this season

tardy lark
#

thank god the game evolves and changes

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would hate playing AM/OS for an entire xpac

heady saffron
#

by the time i even find the leggo base we will be in fated raids

quick quest
#

Amen

fervent turtle
#

leggo biggest stick carrot ever added to the game

quick quest
#

Ill consider myself Lucky if i get it before next xpack

spark maple
#

its not that much

heady saffron
#

wonder how high leggo stacks to

quick quest
#

I thought it was 1 stack

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Per target or something

fervent turtle
#

they will add more and more expensive stuff to the game (augmented rune!) to drive ppl into buying tokens

tardy lark
#

yes its all a ruse

#

buy tokens please

steel horizon
tardy lark
#

everything is with that goal in mind

tall surge
#

Did blizz clarify how the bad luck protection is gonna work with new leggo? Or we still need some information from them?

heady saffron
#

since it doesnt say "each"

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probably just worded like that cuz itll have a visually succ from each marked enemy

#

not unique equipped :O time to get 2

tame yarrow
#

600k for leggy. Gotta love thr game design weird

plucky ice
#

really makes u feel like you worked for it xan

tame yarrow
#

Yeee xandbag xan

unreal onyx
#

Or just throw a 20 at blizz

brave cairn
plucky ice
#

nobody with a brain will pay that much

brave cairn
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Awakened fire - 25k
Awakened earth - 28k
Awakened order - 28k
Resonant crystal - 83k
Prototype order vellum - ???

Shadowflame essence - 110k
Cosmic ink - 2 million :LULE:
Runed writhebark - 108k
Prototype binding rune - ???

Zaralek glowspores - 7k
Obsidian cobraskin -194k
Dreaming essence -11k
Mireslush hide - 75k
Prototype Dreamleaf Grip - ???

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Yesterday at 1 AM prices

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Or this morning rather

sullen dove
sullen dove
#

where the fuck are you

quick quest
#

Think i got 750 ink for 30k max

#

Sold for 800k

sullen wagon
#

Bro is in Venezuela*

brave cairn
#

Silvermoon

sullen wagon
#

inflation is crazy

sullen dove
#

L

brave cairn
#

They dropped since this mornjing

quick quest
brave cairn
#

Current prices

sullen dove
#

abort your region

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immediately

quick quest
#

Apparently they are easy to make according to my gm

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So get crafting

sullen latch
#

jesus i should have more skinners, almost 40kjust for killing one mob a day is crazy

plucky ice
#

feels good to be alch insc and make 0 gold a day

kind swift
#

So can we get lego this week before reset?

devout apex
#

ive done my sims but does anyone know for sure how arms vs fury performs in M+?

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i feel like im doing such low overralls in my 20s

sullen wagon
brave cairn
#

Pumps hard with 4 set

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Keep in mind you won't beat DH/rogue overalls unless you get a nice party setup, but thats just current balance

devout apex
#

almost gotten beat by 4set vdh lol

sullen wagon
#

Nah you can definitely perform in M+ way more than that

lavish grove
#

If you don't invite dh or rogue, u will beat them on dps every time

tardy lark
#

that doesnt sound like a class issue im afraid

lavish grove
sullen wagon
#

That sounds like a player issue mate

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very sorry to word it this way

devout apex
#

i know it is but im not sure wat im doing wrong lol

brave cairn
#

Gotta post setup for that

tardy lark
#

most likely not using your CDs enough or just wasting them

brave cairn
#

Optimizing rotation, correct CD use, positioning etc

hazy cedar
devout apex
#

i have 2set right now and my overrall in a 20brh was 188k with a rogue in there

tardy lark
#

are you forgetting to press WW or some shit

devout apex
#

nope, ww was my highest

tardy lark
#

BRH is giga inflated cause of of bats

hazy cedar
#

Idk I felt like I was doing better with 4 set than 2/2

pseudo carbon
brave cairn
#

Luckily we got OF that doesnt have an aoe cap 🙉

devout apex
#

oh my bad im talking about arms right now lol

torpid slate
#

Hey warrior friends, anyone has any information wether the legendary item from boss drop is active on all difficulties or not yet? I havent killed Fyrak and wanted to do it in HC before reset

brave cairn
#

But from what I've been reading in my guild chat apparently its drops are bugged

torpid slate
#

I did not play last patch so not sure

brave cairn
#

(Take it with a grain of salt)

hazy cedar
torpid slate
#

I hope it can before the reset that wouls be great, more chances the better

strange drift
#

anyone has a aura that plays a sound when u have less than 1 stack of improved whirlwind>?

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tried to make one didnt work lol

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nvm

#

figured it out

unreal onyx
#

I assume my guild will do hc fyrakk every week until everyone has the leggo, maybe I can even get the rare trink during that time ratge

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But it propably will go to other dps sadge

tardy lark
#

just loot it in vault ez

spark maple
#

hate having to gear up again D:

tardy lark
#

you chose the wrong game then lol

spark maple
#

some damn afk noob in lfr won wepon drop, dude did less dps than healers

torpid slate
#

Wait could it drop on Vault?

tardy lark
#

the trinket can

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nobody knows about leggo yet, but highly doubt it

spark maple
#

why

nimble pewter
#

yo good morn ppl. - with the race being over and seeing so many fury warriors I am starting to wonder: Arms sims higher than fury but I guess because of the cleave/aoe profile fury outperforms?

tardy lark
#

evoker leggo didnt work that way 🤷‍♀️

clever belfry
#

All signs point to it working like the evo one

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So i would strongly assume it doesn't drop in vault

tardy lark
#

@clever belfry Aagaardnikes is rising. I think they even put me in on Tswift tonight at 465 ilvl and no 4set lol

clever belfry
#

nikes moment

tardy lark
#

very nikes

graceful crow
#

lets gooooooooooooooooo lego gonna drop with absurd crafting prices xDD

languid coral
#

lego doesn't say that is unique.... dual handed lego incoming?🧐

edgy widget
hazy cedar
languid coral
#

wait isn't it tradable? in Meeres stream i though you could trade it

languid coral
unreal onyx
#

Also, am I insane or do the last 2 bosses regular loot table not have an extra 3 ilvl above max myth track?

chrome plover
languid coral
#

oooh didn't know that thanks

chrome plover
#

it is just an rng drop separate to other loot

#

you kill fyrakk and either get it or don't

unreal onyx
#

50% drop chance

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Get it or not

chrome plover
#

true

#

it was higher chance on higher difficulties with evoker lego right?

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so always do heroic first

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(or mythic)

kindred grail
#

Yo guys is it wortt me reclearing Fyraak even tho i did this week since it's seperate loot table ?

unreal onyx
#

Is it a separate loot table?

chrome plover
#

you'll only be able to get it if you arent saved

unreal onyx
#

You‘re locked and don’t get any loot anymore

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1 chance per week

chrome plover
#

also not sure if it starts dropping this week or next anyway

tepid shore
#

Itll only drop after reset anyway

unreal onyx
#

Propably on reset anyway

ornate gust
#

so which epic items that we can destroy to craft the weapon?

unreal onyx
#

Anything from 10.2

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Afaik

fathom knoll
#

Maybe some wizards here could help me, I'm trying to macro Odyn's fury and Spear of bastion... but I can't get it to work

chrome relic
#

meeres was buying the gloves from the rep vendor

clever path
#

will be nice getting into keys soon, "LF DPS, link legendary"

fathom knoll
#

yeah that's what I thought... you used to be able to use /castsequence before.

silk wharf
chrome plover
fathom knoll
#

That's ok to wait, it's just it's not working... :/

chrome plover
#

show macro

ornate gust
silk wharf
#

yea

ornate gust
#

time to restore the epic items then

fathom knoll
#

Sure, sorry for the french spells:
/castsequence Fureur d’Odyn, [@cursor] Lance du Bastion

silk wharf
#

the gloves and helmet? whichever pieces are on the rtep vendor

chrome plover
#

you can buy them for dragon isles supplies

ornate gust
chrome plover
#

in emerald dream

chrome plover
#

I think that needs to be at the start

fathom knoll
#

Tried without it, doesn't work either :/

chrome plover
#

oh

unreal onyx
chrome plover
#

why?

chrome relic
#

eh probably not

unreal onyx
#

Seems „too easy“

chrome relic
#

even so just item restore a bunch of loot youve been vendoring from M+

#

should be ok

chrome plover
#

did he figure out the superbloom thing? i went to bed when he had 3/200

unreal onyx
#

Im all for it, but it feels like it’s not supposed to work like that

chrome plover
edgy widget
chrome plover
#

I'd recommend just using 2 keybinds, fury really doesnt have too many

chrome plover
edgy widget
#

also quite possible he was just really tired of streaming and wanted to go celebrate with everyone else

chrome relic
#

^

chrome plover
#

well yeah ofc, it was funny that he saw his 30k~ viewers and thought he had to finish the quest for the boys

#

🙏

edgy widget
#

yeah then he realized it was actual work, and was like "wait, I don't wanna do this anymore!"

chrome plover
tardy lark
#

Hate work

chrome relic
#

did riku get liquid's?

edgy widget
#

if it were me, there's not a chance in hell I would have stayed there

chrome plover
#

same

edgy widget
#

I would have been out the moment it was in my bags

tardy lark
chrome relic
#

word

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can't wait to see it in action in a key

chrome plover
#

cant wait to get it on wednesday copium

chrome relic
#

same same

#

we get it 100% right? right?

unreal onyx
#

Surely I‘ll get mine on Thursday on our hc kill too

edgy widget
unreal onyx
#

Boosters making bank from next week onwards

chrome relic
edgy widget
#

anyone who thinks they're suddenly going to give a legendary weapon to every War, DK, and Pal that clears N or H raid next week is out of their mind

unreal onyx
#

Real

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But let me cope

edgy widget
#

I'd actually love to know the stats on how many of these things get looted week to week

unreal onyx
#

They said they’ll make the blp better than evoker one copium

edgy widget
#

Yeah, meaning maybe you'll actually get it 20 weeks into the tier 😆

unreal onyx
#

As long as I get it

willow cradle
tardy lark
#

Parsing in hold till we have leggo

unreal onyx
#

Our heal evoker got his leggo on the 2nd to last week of the tier

tardy lark
chrome relic
#

its ok i got all my heroic parse this week

edgy widget
unreal onyx
tardy lark
edgy widget
#

it's ok I got rank 1 on M Volcross this week

#

😬

tardy lark
#

The real rank 1

iron portal
#

its so rare its grey

#

no longer obtainable

deft juniper
#

How Can it be tested if its a 4-5% dps increase when it wont let it be simmed?

edgy widget
#

Shaman with debuff trolled the fuck out of me like 1m into the encounter 😭

chrome relic
tardy lark
#

100th percentile must mean you are number 100

chrome plover
#

died at 50 seconds

tardy lark
#

Chaise is shaman

#

Chawie

edgy widget
chrome plover
#

yep

#

my logs are cursed already, but better than prog logs last tier at least...

tardy lark
#

I was fucking sweating first reset as 458 arms on that boss. Walli rolls up at 471 with 4set fury spaced and tanks everything

unreal onyx
#

My logs are dogwater too, dw

edgy widget
#

eh, I don't really care about parses anymore

chrome plover
#

I mean they dont really matter when I do bosses that have 20 fury parses

#

but still that shits ugly as hell

edgy widget
#

Well I don't mean that, it's just that ranking has turned into more and more of an external buff shitshow

chrome relic
#

^

edgy widget
#

group comp has always been a big part of ranking, but it's gotten a lot worse over the last few expansions

iron portal
#

True parses have 0 here

tardy lark
#

I kinda hoped “no externals” would be the standard setting on wcl with the separate thing for PI logs, but with them included, it’s the default way of looking at ranks

iron portal
#

actually blank

edgy widget
#

I don't expect or even want people to PI me, but now it's like... if you don't have 3 DKs getting PI and Aug buff, you're still not gonna rank because your raid damage is so much lower

tardy lark
#

Hunter now mandatory cause you’d do less damage in lust otherwise ratge

edgy widget
#

obviously a little hyperbole in there, but you get the point

tardy lark
#

I hate raid buffs so much

edgy widget
#

there are just a lot more layers to it now, kinda taking all the fun out of it

tardy lark
#

Although that’s what kept a single warrior in for all of prog lol

edgy widget
#

I don't mind the standard raid buffs, honestly I don't even mind things like Aug

#

I do mind that they've not taken more steps to curtail some of the massive synergies between certain classes and Aug, PI, etc

tardy lark
#

Aug best buff targets just being whatever the best tuned 2 min spec is kinda boring as well

edgy widget
#

Yeah that's what I mean

#

like perfect world, an Aug should be able to buff just about anyone and get the same results, but ofc it doesn't work like that - for one, the specs aren't that well balanced, and for two, there are major burst implications which only get worse when you add things like PI on top

#

and that synergy can add up to a serious amount, shaving whole minutes off some encounters

willow cradle
#

Yeah buffs compounding is an issue imo

edgy widget
#

granted that doesn't mean you can't still get a good parse without it, but the odds are stacked that much more against you

tardy lark
#

We’re playing 3 rogues and 1 pi on tswift and fyrakk deadge

empty grove
#

is the kazzak neck worth it?

tardy lark
#

Off to learn sub

surreal token
#

Do you guys feel like you get any value out of Sudden Death with the current playstyle?

edgy widget
empty grove
#

what does it max go up to archi?

edgy widget
willow cradle
#

If they made the buffs act like Soleah's Trinket from Tazavesh where you can only be the recipient of one source at a time it would help against stacking buffs on a single target.

edgy widget
surreal token
chrome plover
#

it is 463

empty grove
#

wow 12k loss

surreal token
#

I wonder if the Improved RB talent could also have some interactivity with Annihilator

edgy widget
chrome plover
lone axle
#

Will we be able to sim legendary weapon any time soon ?

empty grove
#

oops simmed the wrong one

#

lol

edgy widget
surreal token
#

if we had an entire xpac of Onslaught and Ravager gameplay, left side of the Fury tree would've felt wasted

empty grove
#

im having alot of fun with annihilator

edgy widget
#

Season 2 did pretty well in incorporating them, though I still think the version of that bonus we got wasn't as good as what it could have been

surreal token
#

When you have lust and all CDs going, do you guys get stutters when weaving Rampage and Bloodbath?

wind rose
#

is there a build you all would recommend for mplus if you dont have any of the new set or the old set?

surreal token
#

Sometimes my inputs don't register BB and just hit another rampage

edgy widget
#

I'm going to again really push that they do something to make Bloodcraze better next expansion, an actual BT enabler for hybrid RB builds

edgy widget
surreal token
#

What would be the condition for usage of RB vs BT in that case

surreal token
#

Assuming reck is up and you have CSHB would you prio BT?

#

but during normal downtime prio RB?

edgy widget
#

depends on how they implement it, but my favored idea was to make Bloodcraze increment automatically like Inexorable Assault

So basically every X seconds your Bloodthirst has a 100% chance to crit, giving you a predictable periodic send that you can guarantee will always trigger CSHB

#

functionally the same thing that the S2 bonus did, just automatically over time rather than based on Rampage casts

surreal token
#

ah similar to T30?

#

I like that

#

makes openers nicer

edgy widget
#

yeah, that was the major benefit - give you a consistent opener, rather than the S2 bonus, which really faltered on short pulls

surreal token
#

God that's what we need

#

even more opener threat

edgy widget
#

and it wouldn't just be free damage either, I mean there's a serious talent point sink there, between Focus in Chaos, CSHB, and Bloodcraze (though you could path straight to Bloodcaze from Frenzy, I don't think the concept would be worth too much without CSHB... or at least it shouldn't be tuned to be)

surreal token
#

the whole pack 1 shots me cos VDH/Bear aggro is a joke

surreal token
edgy widget
#

I don't think there's anything wrong with focus in chaos positioning right now

surreal token
edgy widget
#

most of Fury's tree is pretty solid tbh - there are a few talents which could use some rebalancing, and a couple that could probably be reworked/replaced entirely, but the majority are in a pretty good spot

surreal token
#

which ones?

edgy widget
surreal token
#

is it not described in the tooltip?

#

cos it says 'all'

edgy widget
#

it's not on the tooltip, no

surreal token
#

what's the softcap?

edgy widget
# surreal token which ones?

Depths, Storm of Steel, Raging Armaments (though that might be more on other talents), Frenzied Flurry (assuming SMF stays), Fresh Meat, Frenzy target swap, and Bloodcraze ofc

#

a few other balancing concerns, but those are the big targets

#

need to do somethin to make OF innately better in MT and Ons better in ST; it's really a drag that one ends up better everywhere and the other gets ignored

clever path
edgy widget
#

honestly, maybe just removing dancing steel and making titanic rage even better in MT somehow; even if that is kind of a hardlined option

clever path
#

same, but was a monk healer that rolled into me

surreal token
#

Take 900k dmg and get flamed by RL?

edgy widget
#

tbf, the Shaman didn't jihad me, he just left me no room to escape the giant snake tail, and trying to leap through him was a bad choice

#

I wasn't mad at him or anything, and we sorted it out

clever path
edgy widget
#

Shadowplay is my best friend in raid

clever path
#

btw do you guys have any fps breaks in council?

edgy widget
#

na, it worked smoothly for me

edgy widget
clever path
#

when we wipe it freezes for 2/3 sec for bosses do despawn and mid boss it goes from 70 to 30 fps

clever path
edgy widget
#

na, I had nothing like that

edgy widget
clever path
#

well my pc is also 3 years and running no format

chrome plover
#

I had a bit of lag while streaming raid last night

#

turned it off and it fixed it sadge

edgy widget
#

random ass people tried to do that shit constantly, clipping stupid mistakes (which everyone does) or random comments out of context and then post it in discord to try to "dunk" or some shit

clever path
#

100% ape brain

surreal token
#

LMAO

edgy widget
#

hahaha

#

at least you know what you did

willow cradle
#

I just record now, that way RL gets another POV and in case WCL isn't clear on what happened I can see if I messed up or not.

random raptor
#

Hey guys where is the best place to check talents I should be using for mythic bosses?

edgy widget
#

You know his brain was just shouting "EXECUUUUUUUUUUTE" the whole time

edgy widget
random raptor
clever path
#

I even tried to compensate by runing back

#

but shit was 2 late

chrome plover
willow cradle
clever path
#

i was mid air and like, oops

soft otter
#

Are we able to get the legendary this week, or we need to wait til reset?

edgy widget
#

next

clever path
#

For once I dont wanna get it...

soft otter
#

Alright thanks, I have time to study keksquad

clever path
#

those prices, my wallet

chrome plover
#

p2w game fr

warm pewter
#

they just want us to buy wow tokens

chrome plover
#

just buy 2 wow tokens

warm pewter
#

its stupid

edgy widget
chrome plover
#

or boost two 20s

#

those go for like 1.2m

#

atm

clever path
#

my guild is dumping mats already

#

but still its above 700K in amts

edgy widget
clever path
#

or gimme the links

split comet
#

I thought it would be a higher gain tbh

warm pewter
split comet
#

The leggo*

chrome plover
clever path
willow cradle
#

I sold 3 Boe's to fill my guilds Bank, they better pay for my leggo ahahah

clever path
split comet
#

Makes sense it’s bigger for arms

edgy widget
chrome plover
#

yeah ur cut for a 20 is like 200k

edgy widget
#

prices didn't skyrocket until the items got posted online lol

clever path
#

it goes from 50 to200?

#

naaa

chrome plover
#

200-300 depending

edgy widget
#

it's 110% resellers

chrome plover
#

wdym naa

#

it does

edgy widget
#

like you can blame Blizzard for a lot, but you can't blame them for this one lol

clever path
#

gimme ur boosting com

#

cause 100k here

edgy widget
# clever path

I don't do any of that shit and I still have like 5 mil gold

#

I'll be fine

split comet
#

Isn’t this ToS? lol

plucky ice
#

I'll worry about the mats when I get the drop, doubt that's very soon

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archi I spent on t3 😦

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I already had T3 🙃

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Anyone got the Legendary Mat cost for EU?

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from a loooooong time ago

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Archi has a personal internet cafe of Venezuelans who farm gold for him for above average Venezulean pay

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big FOMO going on rn, sellers happy lmao

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it will go down

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surely the flow of players dropping it is way lower than the hype

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🤷‍♂️

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probably long before any of us get the legendary 😂

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yep

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You guys even assume you're getting the lego

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wdym im getting it wednesday

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although you know there's going to be some random who has never spoken in the server before gonna come blasting in here on Tuesday linking their screenshots and bragging that they got it

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and we're all going to hate that person

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The Blood DKs and holy pallies loot spec'ing ret will get it first

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You only need to kill it once

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On hc or myth preferably

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wdym kill it once, isn't it a drop chance

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but if you kill normal then hc the chance increases afaik no?

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not guaranteed

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it's just 1 chance per week

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oh

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first difficulty you kill it on

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how come no? if hc has a higher chance'

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because if you kill normal, hc cant drop it

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SO dont kill in normal only hc is what ur ssaying?