fury

[rotund steppe]

i have 4k

[jovial rover]

Mats already 1.2 million to buy lul

[rotund steppe]

0 if u farm and have friends

[inland flame]

Just think guys it may be hard to make but we get to use it for a year with War Within being late 24

[zenith moat]

or a few wow tokens 😉

[worn mauve]

A year or until they do another fated and its ilvl is bad

[meager void]

take note at 26nov2023 so you can math later 🙂

[chilly sapphire]

That all the mats for leggo?

[young swan]

[lavish sage]

Is the leggo good

[meager void]

minus the profession specific thingies

[serene vessel]

no its garbage

DE it

[lavish sage]

oh ok cool thx

[elder ridge]

🤣

[tulip swallow]

$100 legendary, very cool blizzard

[hidden lily]

The cost of the lego mats is insane

[celest sierra]

is there any weakauras to like track bloodthirst crits etc

[lavish sage]

[tulip swallow]

the evoker legendary needs so much less shit, what the hell blizz

[light tapir]

Can you imagine he just takes everyone on stream through getting everything for it and instead of turning in just deletes it all

[slim coral]

teh answer is yes

[quartz marlin]

2 thunderfuries is a thing

[serene vessel]

pretty sure its not

[wraith wharf]

we have never been able to dual wield the same legendary

unless its a transmog*

[modest condor]

thunderfury is unique

[wraith wharf]

also any guild that would give a fury warrior two thunderfuries deserves to fall apart

[inland flame]

but they have two hands 🤔

[fading bane]

so where is my 489 mh vs legendary mh sim

how much do i squeeze my hog

[noble elm]

The fact that the legendary doesn’t just have an on use that clones itself for fury warriors is gross

Give us the Enh sham artifact treatment

[edgy widget]

transmog is a thing

[edgy widget]

it's being worked on atm

[tender sky]

holy mats batman

[noble elm]

That doesn’t help me farm less weapons

[fading bane]

cheers

[edgy widget]

considering you need to farm like 20 weapons to make the legendary in the first place, I think that's the least of your worries

[thorny peak]

jesus

[noble elm]

Yes, precisely. After all that effort we should get a break.

[edgy widget]

please stop pinging me with stupid shit

[night stone]

Farm 20 weapons? Wot

[edgy widget]

part of the quest chain

[noble elm]

You engaged me dude I was just responding

[edgy widget]

with stupid shit lol

[serene vessel]

yo archi

howd u get the info that it locks u in place like DoS?

[unreal cape]

what does that mean you need to farm 20 weapons, in i need to farm 20 weapons from m+/ raid to progress the quest chain?

will my old weapons count towards that

[edgy widget]

spell data

[night stone]

Kinda weird ngl having us farm weapons to hold in our bags for the questline

[unreal cape]

sounds dumb as hell

who's idea was that

[serene vessel]

u can just use the stuff from the vendors

[compact knot]

you dont need to farm 20 weapons

[night stone]

Ah okay so like the “sacrifice 5 weapons” thing for jaithys

[unreal cape]

i got like 2-3 weapons in 2 weeks from combined m+, raid, lfr

[night stone]

Where you could just use ah Greens

[compact knot]

its just epic items from this tier

and it isnt 20 either

[olive wraith]

Bs craft stuff I guess

[inland flame]

think they have to be epics but don't have to be weaps

[night stone]

Ait Nice

[compact knot]

has to be epics and not 20 of them chance for 1 or 2 or 3 of the thing

[edgy widget]

p sure its any piece of gear

[compact knot]

that is what i said

[edgy widget]

not necessarily dropped epics either, at least right now you can turn in rep gloves https://www.wowhead.com/item=210704/fallen-protector-handguards

[serene vessel]

ajnd also again, it works with the vendor items

the limiting factor is the 5 minute cd lmao

[zenith moat]

the 200 things quest is funny, meeres did one superbloom and got 3 :kekw:

[edgy widget]

I doubt that part is intended though, watch it get hotfixed lol

[edgy widget]

also probably gonna get hotfixed

[compact knot]

that showed up as a epic on meeres stream though

those where not green

the gloves

[left perch]

liquid kill yet?

[edgy widget]

0.66% wipe 😬

[serene vessel]

no

[compact knot]

its also epic in game so

[left perch]

ah damn that’s tough

This race was legit best one so far

[forest ginkgo]

Best race in a long time, was close af all day

[edgy widget]

race was good, tier is yikes

7 pushovers and two insane pull count bosses

[left perch]

yea that’s unfun

[compact knot]

smolderon was good

[serene vessel]

thats what happens when u have different developers working on bosses

[edgy widget]

Smolderon was like 50 pulls for WF, which is fine, probably going to be more like 100+ for a lot of guilds (depending on nerfs)

[serene vessel]

they should just have the developers work on all the bosses together

also whoever the halondrus/sludgefist/fyrakk guy is

promote him

[edgy widget]

less of a "work on" problem and more of a tuning after the fact problem

[serene vessel]

make him the team lead

[edgy widget]

they were still working on Fyrakk up till Wednesday lol, and threw out two more hotfixes after

[zenith moat]

I wonder how are they gonna make tindral and fyrakk killable for not rwf guilds

[serene vessel]

bump timers up

[pulsar prawn]

worth looks better than a invincible for same price

[serene vessel]

make the timers not lineup

[edgy widget]

reduce the incoming dam by a lot

[forest ginkgo]

I mean maybe give more time to position with blaze?

Since blaze went off real fast

[serene vessel]

blaze timers, seed timers, etc

[forest ginkgo]

Lower speed of tornados

[sour elbow]

Is it still true US has to get the kill before US can get the lego?

[serene vessel]

yes so if liquid doesnt kill it flame them

[forest ginkgo]

I think its worldwide once the bossko is dead

[plucky wedge]

If the leggo is strong warrior is going to be big dps

[forest ginkgo]

But im not entirely sure

[plucky wedge]

Biiiiiig

[forest ginkgo]

The leggo is strong even if it didnt have its equip and on use, since its high ilvl and got the big damage

[main nacelle]

is weapon good

[forest ginkgo]

But from first looks, it seems like its gonna be super fun to use

ontop of looking like it'll perform well dps wise

But that we cannot entirely know until the sims are finished

[serene vessel]

warrior is #1 dps now

[forest ginkgo]

Its gonna be goodge atleast

[olive wraith]

Start farming mats y’all

[main nacelle]

do we know what the mats are

[olive wraith]

There’s a post

[forest ginkgo]

Imagine if we'll have to put into notes that we have fyr'alath in order to get into groups, that would be hilarious

[olive wraith]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/fyralath-the-dreamrender-crafting-materials-336372?webhook

[slim coral]

just spent 1.3 mil on mats

[left perch]

most of us won’t get it lol

[slim coral]

before they get jacked up

on NA

[olive wraith]

I’m just gonna start farming the shit I can

[forest ginkgo]

We gon be sweating until we get that wep

[olive wraith]

Those awakened elements are oof

[brittle crow]

im financially fucking stupid

[slim coral]

those are the chepaest parts

[main nacelle]

did the prices already shoot up

[dapper goblet]

was 560k an hour ago

[brittle crow]

i sold off my reagent bag earlier today not even thinking the prices would shoot up 🥲

[slim coral]

[worn mauve]

Spending the money before they get jacked up... I got bad news for you LOL

[slim coral]

this is nothing comapred to what it will be

[worn mauve]

Idk about that

[slim coral]

I did the evoker lego

[worn mauve]

These mats arnt that hard to farm

[mossy nimbus]

Prizes have mostly already halfed from what they were 20 Minutes ago

[main nacelle]

ah so its just a kneejerk market reaction

and then itll prob settle down

[modest condor]

yeah prizes peaked like 5 minutes after the wowhead post

[main nacelle]

what part is the expensive part?

or is it just the amount of mats

[brittle crow]

i prob lost like 100k in selling

gg

[mossy nimbus]

Only things still really expensive are these obsidian scales things. But these were expensive before

[modest condor]

some ink stuff seems to be the worst offender

right now

[main nacelle]

crossing my fingers that my servers market isnt completely boned

[mossy nimbus]

All of the inscription stuff are still expensive

[lofty apex]

Hi, can fury warrior use something to avoid Soul Thorn from 2nd boss of waycrest manor?

[summer quail]

no

[errant pond]

is there like a weakaura to remind me that I don't have food buff, runes on weapons etc.

[slim coral]

that was most of the cost

70k a piece

[fringe anchor]

is this the patch where you rob the guild bank and join a better one saying you have the weapon already

[edgy widget]

hmm... sims might still need some work

[terse idol]

seems right to me!

[sullen dove]

na that looks good

[serene vessel]

send it live

[olive wraith]

We gonna be able to use any rarity mats?

[quartz hare]

Do we believe it will be switch to personal loot?

The new axe

[fringe anchor]

They said it would be like evoker IIRC and that was personal loot so sure, probably

[astral path]

can i get the axe if i'm already locked out of all tiers/

[young swan]

its not avail to us plebs until the reset

[astral path]

ahh

[olive wraith]

Just go kill mythic fyrak

[errant pond]

does anyone know what these mic and other thing is on bottom of my screen

[frosty karma]

its from nvidias shadowplay

[errant pond]

ty!

[edgy widget]

Yeah it's amazing what a rebuild with new implementation will do 🤔

like do you know how simc works? xD

I said "sims might still need some work"

Annnnnd then they got some more work

[spare otter]

holy shit

the price for materials

to craft the leggo is insane

[soft merlin]

whats the mats to craft it?

[spare otter]

it's like 100-250 of shit

[soft merlin]

wasnt just do quest?

[spare otter]

nah u gotta buy mats after

[edgy widget]

no, I didn't, and why the fuck are you arguing with me about how SimC works?

[spare otter]

pretty sure he spent like over 700k+ gold

just for mats

[soft merlin]

any clue what the mats are off the top of your head?

[young swan]

theres a wowhead post on it

[junior gale]

Mats are inflating right now because ppl are buying the mats for some reason

[fringe anchor]

There's a wowhead post

[young swan]

its a laundry list

[junior gale]

they will go down as the patch goes on

[soft merlin]

ty

[edgy widget]

bitch it was one minute apart

do you know how time works?

[clever path]

Can you get the quest just straight away?

[edgy widget]

What is your point, and why are you being a dbag?

get the fuck out

[junior gale]

[fringe anchor]

call him the jailer holy shit

sent to the shadow realm lmao

[rotund steppe]

jesus what did i missed

[sullen dove]

i was in the middle of reading that

[upbeat plume]

someone getting shitty at archie and him getting the justifyable boot in the teeth lol

[clever path]

Do you need the legendary item off fyrakk to start the quest?

[upbeat plume]

the person not archie that is

[quartz marlin]

Legendary Crafting Material Laundry List

Erden's Glowspore Grip

Zaralek Glowspores x400
Obsidian Cobraskin x3
Prototype Dreamleaf Grip x1
Dreaming Essence x5
Mireslush Hide 1* x50

Lydiara's Binding Rune

Shadowflame Essence x10
Prototype Binding Rune x1
Cosmic Ink 1* x250
Runed Writhebark 3* x50

Shalasar's Sophic Vellum

Awakened Fire x150
Awakened Earth x100
Awakened Order x50
Resonant Crystal x200
Prototype Order Vellum x1

[rotund steppe]

ofc

[dire badge]

[edgy widget]

idk man, every once in a while, you get some random cocksucker who thinks they can dunk on you with some stupid nitpicky bullshit

[clever path]

But you can get all the mats ahead of ti@e

[spare otter]

thats so fucked you need all them mats man

[edgy widget]

and I don't have the time or patience for it

[spare otter]

what does blizz expect me to buy wow tokens 💀

[junior gale]

you got until u get the lego to buy or farm them

literally 0 rush

[sullen dove]

just boost

[young swan]

time to swipe

get some bobby bucks

[sullen dove]

or actually grind mats yourself

[fringe anchor]

did you not consider having the sims ready before the item existed? smh my head

[edgy widget]

🤔

[fringe anchor]

I respect the hustle that goes into the sims : )

[quartz marlin]

just hack into blizz and download the dev builds ahead of time for ez sim prep

[edgy widget]

prices will stabilize after the initial rush, right now it's just people tryin to make a quick buck

[fringe anchor]

why not just have meeres run 1,000,000 clients at once with a bot playing for him? who even needs simc

[quartz marlin]

prices will stay that way for about 2-4 weeks

[spare otter]

I hope so because the price atm is insane

[spark maple]

yesssss i hope glowspores go up in price now

[young swan]

they already peaked and have started going down

[soft merlin]

wow tokens about to tank in price

[spark maple]

DAMMIT

ghold on im logging in to sell

[young swan]

they were 18g like an hour ago

[clever path]

how does fury aoe work with storm of swords/without ravager? with a 6 sec cd on ww?

[spark maple]

spores?

how much now

[young swan]

last i checked they were 14g

[spark maple]

NOOOO

[young swan]

thats NA

[spark maple]

thats the price i bought them for ffs LMAO

[young swan]

btw

just in case

[quartz marlin]

every server will have varying prices

[fringe anchor]

no they will not

[floral oak]

nope

[fringe anchor]

region wide ah lmao

[edgy widget]

FYI that last sim wasn't correct either, it's still being iterated on

[compact knot]

legit the same

[quartz marlin]

man, ive been gone awhile. when did that happen?

[compact knot]

noting changed

[worldly skiff]

warrior main tc banned main havoc tc

[toxic grove]

this axe

[edgy widget]

the CD is the same duration as 4 GCDs, so you'll always have WW back up when you need to reapply the buff

[fringe anchor]

9.0 was region ah I think? was quite a while back

[iron portal]

Good content

[unreal cape]

think around DF S1

[fringe anchor]

man I was way off then lol

[worldly skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/982371526554832916.webp?size=56&quality=lossless

[quartz marlin]

huh i was around a bit for that, guess i missed that update

[spark maple]

im so sadge

[fringe anchor]

9.2.7

[spark maple]

i think im gonna lose money on spores

[edgy widget]

I don't give a fuck who he is, he was acting like a dbag - and in case he's crying about it elsewhere, feel free to tell him I said that too

[upbeat plume]

the amount of people who think they can be vitriloic to our patron deity in here is astounding lol

[fringe anchor]

oh god oh fuck he's coming for his family

no survivors

[edgy widget]

it should, yes

[iron portal]

Savage

[forest owl]

Woops responded wrong thing

[worldly skiff]

i mean he was technically correct, but its w/e no point fighting for dumb stuff like that

[compact knot]

archim should i run double springs keepers and full stack haste and vers so i can healing parse as effectively as possible

[upbeat plume]

[fringe anchor]

unfathomably based

[worldly skiff]

just makes you seem more trigger happy than anything'

[edgy widget]

thank you peanut gallery, I'll decide what the play is

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/foxhole-steamhappy-gif-7919226950161681297

[worldly skiff]

your just making yourself seem like a ass

and your going to get yourself in trouble

[edgy widget]

If you like him so much, I'll be happy to help you join him

[worldly skiff]

keep your stuff in your own discord

[upbeat plume]

round 2 incoming

[quartz marlin]

indeed

[worldly skiff]

like why kick him out in other c ords

cause of a meme

[edgy widget]

firstly - not a meme

[forest owl]

Omg is that a real life pic of archi 🤣

[worldly skiff]

yes a mem

chill dude

[edgy widget]

secondly - if he's using SimC to act like a pendantic dbag, or "meme" as you wanna call it, then he doesn't deserve to be there either

[worldly skiff]

thats just straight up childish

and being a dbag

[edgy widget]

thirdly, how I conduct myself or discords I moderate is none of your god damn business, so how about you sit the fuck down

[worldly skiff]

so two wrongs

[edgy widget]

Don't worry, I'll help you with that too

[quartz marlin]

rembo, dont screw with mods in their servers

[compact knot]

garf

[quartz marlin]

uve been on this for 7 years by now, u know better

[spark maple]

next reset is fyrak lfr?

[sullen spoke]

Can anyone help me with 4pc odyns fury build opener?

not sure what is optimal

[sullen dove]

bruh i bought 1000 rousing order at 200 each cause there were some set at 300 and i thought "surely this will go well" and then every single fucking person out of the woodwork put all theirs up and now its back to like 97g

-100k

[forest ginkgo]

I prayge to loot jesus that i get fyralath next week

[sullen spoke]

don't see it explained anywhere, might be blind

[forest owl]

🤣

[fringe anchor]

pray you get it in a month when it's affordable lmao

[spark maple]

how much is estimated total cost rn

[unreal cape]

have u even looked at the wowhead rotation section for fury?

[sullen spoke]

yeah, it only has opener for old build

it has prio system for current build but not opener

[unreal cape]

no, it doesnt, check again

[tiny flame]

So i'm guessing teh Aug leggo was much easier to get the mats for and we won't be seeing an annouce every 30 seconds in Val for it? (the new axe)

[upbeat plume]

man the idiots are out in force tonight, 2 people mouthing off and getting executed jesus

[frail spear]

after inflation, 1mil or there abouts

[unreal cape]

think meeres spent 700k

[sullen spoke]

holy shit dude, no need to be so damn toxic guys

just wanted some help

[twin flame]

Why can’t the legendary just be a fucking drop? I already buy a WoW token every patch for consumes, there’s no way I’m dropping $200 for this. Anyone else pissed about this?

[iron portal]

Cost will go down overtime

[minor halo]

Guys spread propaganda warrior is bis spec for legendary

[upbeat plume]

by the time any of us get it the costs will have equalized

[junior gale]

then dont be lazy and farm the mats

[frail spear]

i paied 300k for the mats im not fuzzed, its cheaper than the shit legendaries in shadowlands

[forest ginkgo]

ignore the toxic people, i recommend using wow analyzer to analyze warcraft logs and see how other warriors do their openers with T31 set

[spark maple]

not bad

doable

[forest ginkgo]

Thats how i do it and it works pretty well for me

[fringe anchor]

Price will go down but I'm still mad about the continued trend of paying for gear

ae are still suffering the cost of shadowlands legos

[noble elm]

I don’t think wowanalyzer is updated is it?

[tiny flame]

thx for the tip, never tried that

[forest ginkgo]

U can always see timeline

[onyx dragon]

It’s not

[frail spear]

how are you able to spend 400k on consums each month, do you do wqs fully buffed never drop a flask and prepot every world thrashmob?

[fringe anchor]

I can see it if you run keys all day, pot every key and never do world content

[slim pollen]

You get patches every month? 😮

[forest ginkgo]

Its not updated but it seems to track the input anyways

[unreal cape]

i think its BS aswell. why cant it just be a drop, would be fine with a questline but having to spend towards 1MiL is ridiculous

[forest owl]

Yeah u can easily blow 400k a month doing keys all day with consumables

[forest ginkgo]

As i said, its what i do. And it works pretty decently for me

I also looked at revvez vod during RWF to see what he did as well

[quartz marlin]

ppl sell key runs for gold all day every day

[frail spear]

dunno what sulfuras, thunderfury and ateish cost you back in vanilla adjusted for inflation but they were also very expensive so i dont see the problem here but i guess people these days just like to be shitters and complain instead of playing and enjoying the game

[quartz marlin]

400k is a joke to them

[unreal cape]

easily yeah, i spent 100k already just for consums and crafting two 486 items

[frail spear]

400k is a joke to any player playing 4+ hours per day

[fringe anchor]

wow tokens exist now, that makes it feel much worse

[frail spear]

nobody forces you to buy tokens

[sullen spoke]

thank you, i'll check it out

[twin flame]

I didn’t say 400k/mo, I said 1 WoW token per patch. And they are 250k rn. I know we all have warrior brain but L2read

[quartz marlin]

ya the wowtoken to gold just made everything rise in price

[frail spear]

wowtoken in eu has been hovering around 400k and soz bout the 1month yes its late in eu, but 1 token per patch is what 20 usd per 3-5 months, thats less than 2 hours work

irl work

[fringe anchor]

You're not wrong but being able to swipe for my bis after killing an lfr boss is a fucking terrible path for the game. It sucked in nyalotha with corruptions and it sucks now

[frail spear]

ah for fuck sake dooming is so in right now i see

[lethal mirage]

😄

[frail spear]

gzgz

[lethal mirage]

Today is a good day

[fringe anchor]

? I'm not dooming, the legendary looks good and I'm excited to get it but acting like paying for your bis is a good think is disingenous

[frail spear]

you can pay with gold that you farm by playing the game ffs, stop being such a doomer

[young swan]

lets keep it civil please

[clever path]

cant wait to rip threat with legendary and fury burst.

time to roll nelf guys

[fringe anchor]

It is not a reasonable amount of gold when it could simply be a quest chain, and it wasn't a reasonable amount when we were buying corruptions

[south kayak]

You will rip aggro with the weapon alone

[simple rampart]

Is what Archi has been typing civil

lol

[buoyant salmon]

legendaries like this are designed to havea guild work on them as a group

youre not supposed to tank the whole cost of the legendary by yourself

[sullen basin]

So it's impossible to get as most people?

[quartz marlin]

first one was being intentionally dumb, and the 2nd one was provoking him with a call out

no real need to be civil in that regard

[simple rampart]

I think intentionally being dumb by pointing out a sim was wrong is 1 thing but going on a rampage of banning him from other discords and stroking discord admin power over him takes it to "uncivil" territory

but that's just me

[frail spear]

that used to be a thing yes and one of the reasons they were sought after and somewhat rare, its not supposed to be that EVERY fury warr this patch has one. That is by design and intent from blizz, even tho it hurts to hear

[maiden ingot]

Damn, missed a massacre apparently. Oh well, good riddance.

[simple rampart]

like he posted a shrug emoji

[upbeat plume]

round 3?

[simple rampart]

lmfao

[verbal orchid]

What’s the stat prio with fury 4 set?

[clever path]

sim it

[tiny flame]

sim doesnt tell you

[fringe anchor]

I understand the sentiment but I imagine my guild will be sick of it by the time the seventh rolls around, and content is hard enough in modern wow that for anyone that isn't hof material this thing is pretty darn close to mandatory.

[unreal cape]

there‘s no stat prio, sim

[verbal orchid]

Okay

[sullen basin]

sim doesnt tell you
Wrong

[compact knot]

stat prio is mastery = vers > haste > crit

there

[quartz marlin]

every1 in the simcord knows exactly who and what archi is/does so he was basically giving archi shit for no reason, it'd be like going to a museum and calling the owner who made said art a fake

[sullen basin]

Isn't it mastery = vers > crit > haste

[unreal cape]

u dont need a stat prio, sim tells u what the best gear is u have

[fringe anchor]

my stat prio is vers >>> so I can stand in more mechanics 🙂

[tiny flame]

can you show me where in the sim it says "you need to get this stat more than this one?"

[simple rampart]

Again, being a bit of a dumbo/sarcastic in this discord is 1 thing

Going on a rampage and banning from other discords/the shit Archi has been typing is another

[sullen basin]

Sim stat weight

[turbid needle]

bro what

[clever path]

no.

[final birch]

stat prio is mastery = vers = haste = crit

if you're bdk

[woeful hull]

Stat weight is deprecated and dead, do not use it

[fringe anchor]

stat weights

[forest owl]

My stats are zug>zug

[woeful hull]

Even raidbots warns about it

[upbeat plume]

when people say sim it it means use top gear to evaulte individual pieces

[hardy cargo]

rl pinged me told me to buy my mats 🙂

[woeful hull]

Sucks to suck

[tiny flame]

honestly, just look at critcakes stats and try to follow it is all I do

[sullen basin]

Owned

[covert blaze]

yes it does what

[upbeat plume]

the panic over the cost a few hours afte rthe leggo quest is discovered is really kind of funny

[buoyant salmon]

GFI

[compact knot]

wdym bro what

[buoyant salmon]

sadge

ideally ur guild has ppl of all professions and puts some of the materials they get to the gbank

in an ideal world

[fringe anchor]

No guilds that aren't spending months selling mythic carries are ever paying for that thing lol

[final birch]

damn homie your guild funds your legendary?

neat

I haven't asked but I know that if I would've asked they would tell me to fuck off

[buoyant salmon]

some of it yeah

the mats we already have

[quartz marlin]

by next week they'll drop to 100k

[turbid needle]

gotta understand that if you yell shit like that people will be running around with 50% mast 50% vers and get like 0% haste and 0% crit man

[fringe anchor]

my guild can't afford guild repairs anymore

[vocal fog]

How to get the legendary Axe

[robust widget]

Give it a few weeks, in which 99% of this Discord are unlikely to get it anyway, and prices will drop big

[sullen basin]

My guild can afford food

[rotund steppe]

tbh

now im thankful for bota

bots*

they will massively drop the prices in a few weeks

[midnight kite]

some mats like the cobraskins will sort themself out

[twin flame]

I think Fyralath is going to be like Naszuro and a large minority if not majority of mythic warriors will have it by the end of the expac. Especially with bad luck protection from day 1 which naszuro did not have.

[midnight kite]

people will see a mat at 65k and start trying to farm it again

[hard widget]

Ill be happy to help you out, if you want you can dm me with your questions ^^

[quartz marlin]

drops from fyrakk on any difficulty, equip it, let debuff consume u to get quest

quest to remove said debuff

[coral sparrow]

can we kill fyrakk on different difficulties each week to get it or is it 1 chance a week type thing

[quartz marlin]

no1 knows yet

[compact knot]

you arent wrong, but he asked for a stat priority and i gave him one, question anwsered, his fault if he does this (its impossible to do anyways, only like 3 items this season with mastery and vers) 2 of which are wrists which we want the vers wrist embellishment anyways

[quartz marlin]

but considering separate lockouts, theoretically every difficulty should count

[brittle crow]

aw i missed archi shadowrealm somebody?

[coral sparrow]

how did it work for evoker leggo

[final birch]

with evo's legendary it didnt

[rotund steppe]

it stacks

[final birch]

you had certain chance to get it each week

[quartz marlin]

thats a recent change from previous leggos then

[rotund steppe]

like if i do lfr and dont get it i get 1 stack of bad luck prot

but if i do mythic i get all 4 chances at once

[coral sparrow]

oh

[shell jackal]

yo gamers. could anyone help me with some crafting assistance? unsure what to do with my current setup

[coral sparrow]

thats neat

[twin flame]

For Naszuro you only needed to kill the highest difficulty, it retroactively rolled the lower difficulties

[rotund steppe]

yeah its the same

this time theres only bad luck protection

[cunning igloo]

black rook hold with aug go brrr

[compact knot]

cursed ass comp

[modest condor]

what do you mean cursed

[urban nimbus]

For the newest legendary, how busted would this be for fury I wonder?

[cunning igloo]

lol it was only a 17

[shell jackal]

so i've got the 447 primal molten shadowflame legs & the 476 crafted versa bracers, i've got 2x aspects dreaming crests and 1 spark (working on the 2nd)

what should i craft/replace?

[modest condor]

i guess no monk is kinda cursed, get that 5% physical damage

[shell jackal]

also got the lariat in the bank and still wearing a 447 neck, so

[compact knot]

1 tank 4 dps is possible as fury im sure

[quartz marlin]

same as for every1 else honestly, maybe a bit less for us actually

[modest condor]

for sure

[compact knot]

4 fury with double springs keeper

5head

[modest condor]

even without

[compact knot]

fury tanky asf

[urban nimbus]

Really? I thought more attacks with furry means more procs?

[quartz marlin]

if we stacked haste, ya

[modest condor]

it's a guaranteed proc

[tough cape]

^^^^

[quartz marlin]

but its guaranteed on every auto

[modest condor]

it doesnt say auto

it says attacks

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok.

[modest condor]

that usually means abilities too

[quartz marlin]

so ya u'll always have the mark up on sumthing

[urban nimbus]

So wait, why will Fury benifit less then?

[rotund steppe]

stack haste to 735%

[urban nimbus]

Seems like a flat big benifit to all.

[modest condor]

the on use is a channel

[rotund steppe]

[quartz marlin]

we lose apm

by channelling

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok.

What class can handle the channeling then?

Unholy DK?

[compact knot]

looks good for dk

[quartz marlin]

arms, unholy

[compact knot]

both blood and unholy

[modest condor]

idk about arms mate

[shell jackal]

boys

[modest condor]

blood no shot

[south kayak]

It’s a still dps increase

[shell jackal]

can i cop some help with crafted shit

[modest condor]

enjoy getting clapped while channeling

[shell jackal]

i have no clue what to do lul

[quartz marlin]

ya blood wont want it, unless the stats are good

not sure if they like crit haste

[modest condor]

i think they do

[compact knot]

it has to be good though

in raid

other tank takes it and u channel

[modest condor]

in raid yeah probably just use it when you're not holding anything

[rotund steppe]

idc im using it anyways lmao

[glad coyote]

wonder if it will drop from LFR

[modest condor]

it should

[quartz marlin]

or use if u have a moment of downtime on not refreshing defensives

[compact knot]

you could also call for CC and cast it for free

[steel shard]

is it aoe capped tho

[modest condor]

but if it works like evoker lego doing more difficulties wont give you a higher chance of looting

[compact knot]

in m+

[quartz marlin]

no wording on aoe capped

or split

[steel shard]

if not its mega broken ngl

[urban nimbus]

Its 468k damage over 3 seconds.

[quartz marlin]

so far as we know, its that dmg to everything in range

[urban nimbus]

So 100k+ dps.

[quartz marlin]

period

[red yew]

Probably split

[quartz marlin]

doesnt say split either

if it was split, it'd say

[urban nimbus]

Imagine if its not split.

[modest condor]

modern tooltips are pretty clear about whether something splits damage or not

[red yew]

Lots of effects are split but doesn''t say it's split

[steel shard]

yea and on 10 mobs thats 8m damage

[quartz marlin]

its a legendary

[red yew]

Actually

[quartz marlin]

ofc its gonna be strong

[south kayak]

It does

[red yew]

In fact

[steel shard]

if nog more

[red yew]

There are basically no AoE effects that aren't split

[steel shard]

i mean i hopd its not capped

[modest condor]

the only ones i know of are pre-bfa effects

[urban nimbus]

Wait nvm.

[steel shard]

so i can stop playing dh

[rotund steppe]

i mean if it isnt split

its op af

[quartz marlin]

we can just w8 for meeks to test it

[steel shard]

that does 300k overall with 460 ilvl

[urban nimbus]

Furry Warriors and melee will have big weapon dps in M+ as a esult.

[quartz marlin]

and see whats said

[upbeat blade]

When it applies a dot, the dot doesn't scale with target number. like thunderous roar, could be like that

[south kayak]

Good luck getting the axe

[urban nimbus]

Its has a 500 ilv.

[quartz marlin]

its 496 but close enough

[steel shard]

???????

my dh bro

[quartz marlin]

its dmg is like 537k

[steel shard]

is 460

[south kayak]

[urban nimbus]

Wait nvm, got it wrong.

[steel shard]

and does 300m overall

300k

[void pilot]

how do i convince my gm that augury is busted for fury warriors?

lol

[modest condor]

link them bloodmallet

[steel shard]

fucking stupid class

[south kayak]

Or your sim

[steel shard]

nerf it

[south kayak]

Is it hard to link sim

[red yew]

Imagine legendary axe is revealed and it doesn't actually delete aug

[modest condor]

real

[south kayak]

Fake news

[steel shard]

yea sad

[urban nimbus]

Inb4 the meta becomes melee classes with this legendary weapon.

In M+ runs.

[steel shard]

prob will

[quartz marlin]

oh it will

[south kayak]

They can delete a pack like that

Lol

[steel shard]

and get nerfed

[red yew]

[steel shard]

to 500k shared dmg

[quartz marlin]

3 melee + blood dk with wpn

[steel shard]

so its bad

[urban nimbus]

Worried Fury might be the runt of the pack though melee wise.

In terms of this legendary.

[quartz marlin]

stack up everything, blood pops a couple defensives

every1 bursts

dead trash, go fight boss

[urban nimbus]

Compared to something like Unholy.

[steel shard]

why?

[quartz marlin]

cause we channel

[south kayak]

So do they

[urban nimbus]

Could a warrior fury warrior make use of the channel without destroying its dps?

[quartz marlin]

but unholy has a lower apm

[steel shard]

lmao

thats so

irrelevant

[south kayak]

I think it’s going to be strong regardless of that

[red yew]

Probably not gonna matter too much

[south kayak]

[red yew]

Assuming the on-use is strong enough

[quartz marlin]

right after burst window is done

[south kayak]

Looks it

[gleaming crag]

man not even 500 ilvl fo rthe lego

[red yew]

As long as it's not a Grong Trinket moment

[gleaming crag]

what a bitch

[red yew]

[fading bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dFMD5sRwgkrnwZQM7w1EeP

my sims with wep

[urban nimbus]

What Gong trinket?

[fading bane]

it do go hard

[south kayak]

Can’t wait to loot it a week before 11

[fading bane]

+10.5k vs 2x 483 to Lego + 483

[red yew]

There was a trinket from the boss Grong in BoD that was a dps downgrade for Fury warriors because it had you channeling for like 4 seconds

[urban nimbus]

Does it share cooldown btw?

Can you chain 2 legendaries in a row?

[south kayak]

No

[quartz marlin]

cause u wont get 2 leggos

[south kayak]

You can’t get 2

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok.

[red yew]

It's about on par with Gavel? Or slightly better maybe

[quartz marlin]

its a questchain to finish it

good luck repeating a questchain

[fading bane]

dont know

dont care

[urban nimbus]

Sucks you can't get 2 legendaries lol.

[red yew]

[south kayak]

Gavel wasn’t even a leggo

What a weapon

[urban nimbus]

I would have loved to use it twice.

[quartz marlin]

the only leggos that were technically 2 leggos were the warglaives and fangs of the father

which had a 2nd one specifically for off-hand

[gleaming crag]

cant wait to complain for 13 weeks about not getting it to drop

[grim star]

does anyone have a weak aura to keep track of dancing blade?

[quartz marlin]

how long did it take evokers on avg for theirs to drop?

[urban nimbus]

If its like the evoker legendary drop chance increases over time.

[modest condor]

cant wait to loot it and then not have the gold to craft it

[quartz marlin]

#ui-addons-manager

[south kayak]

Realest post

[junior gale]

Evoker in my guild didnt get till 3 weeks before 10.2

[covert blaze]

lmfao that's gonna be me

[quartz marlin]

ouch

[south kayak]

Can we not loot it this week

The axe

Or does it start next week

[quartz marlin]

probly this week alrdy, now that its dropped in mythic

but chances will be low af

[mental rune]

Nah, should be with reset

[red yew]

Give it like 30 min and someone will come here and say "Yooo I just got the legendary!!!!!"

If not it hasn't activated yet

[modest condor]

Yooo I just got the legendary!!!!!

[south kayak]

!11!!

[shell jackal]

[vernal night]

whats our stat prio this season just started back

[lavish sage]

how much dps is the leggo

[lavish sage]

vers mast

[vivid egret]

ok im later to the party and dont know where to find the info

[vernal night]

vers over mastery?

[rotund steppe]

100% real no fake

[vivid egret]

do we gotta kill last boss to get it and do we need mats?

[rotund steppe]

yes and yes

[meager gyro]

I knew you played in the future

[viral maple]

rn mats are like 800k at least on my server

[gleaming crag]

500k

[lyric bluff]

You'll need to re-run with at least build fc4ad65cb473df4caf710b73e6c735be50023189, as I just committed the apl lines necessary for the on use to work

[clever path]

10k without on use working?

[abstract dirge]

buy mats now --> wait 3 months for axe to drop

[south kayak]

[gleaming crag]

yeap

[fading bane]

if i just resim, is it correct?

[lyric bluff]

not yet, I just checked it in, waiting for raidbots dev channels to show latest is sync'd with it

[fading bane]

ait cheers

[covert blaze]

at least 10

[obsidian jackal]

Will the axe drop in every diff?

[lyric bluff]

it may have actually auto used it, looking at your report

[vivid egret]

is there a link to mats we need

[upbeat plume]

chance goes up with higher difficulty but yes

[lyric bluff]

so should be close anyways

[fast mural]

i wish it was a druid leggo

[obsidian jackal]

Nice

[fast mural]

[fading bane]

oh nice

[lyric bluff]

"Latest" version should have the proper apl line now, to align with trinket use

Standard disclosure, we haven't had one in hand to test with yet, so while it should be reasonably close, it will be a bit before we can confirm all the behavior with the axe

[opal monolith]

If u can rampage but u can also do a normal bt without overcapping rage what would u do, just rampage or do another bt before?

[gleaming crag]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/fyralath-the-dreamrender-questline-playthrough-336373

[modest condor]

that on use is doing work on aoe http://puu.sh/JVnva/7523163855.png

[lyric bluff]

I saw what you posted earlier concerning blood. From the flags, it looks like parry etc still work during channel

so you can drw -> channel

[modest condor]

:o

[lyric bluff]

can't DS 😄 so still some risk

[cursive dome]

any sims for war?

[lyric bluff]

but should be not a big deal to use it

[cursive dome]

with lego

[opal monolith]

Anyone for my question pls

[rotund steppe]

if <110 rage use bt,if 110 or more rage, ramp

pooling rage avoids not having bb on OF buff

[obsidian jackal]

Also if the axe drops people have to roll for it? Or it will be personal

[opal monolith]

Sorry can u explain why ,im not completely following

[edgy widget]

it will probably be personal after reset - the first Evoker legendary was also group loot

[cursive dome]

was same week tho, not reset

[edgy widget]

No, I don't think it was until reset, and it was region specific

[obsidian jackal]

Oh thank god

[frail trout]

region specific

wat

[edgy widget]

which means if Liquid doesn't kill it soon, NA might be up shit's creek 🙃

and TW will get it in about a month xD

[buoyant salmon]

meh they have all of tomorrow

[sage ether]

this has probably been asked but anyone got the string to sim fyrakk?

[edgy widget]

you don't need a string, the weapon has been implemented

[fading bane]

main_hand=,id=206448,ilevel=496,enchant_id=6655

here it is tho

if you want to add it to top gear

[sage ether]

so if i just run a droptimizer itll show?

[fading bane]

no

[half cargo]

Gear compare

Haven’t checked myself but it’s probably there since implemented

[modest condor]

it is

[sage ether]

ty ty

[fading bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2FAM1pLuyqSdBv4g1KR4xj

if it havnt been linked

[south kayak]

interesting that fury is first lol

[olive wraith]

The biggest chance of having empty gcd is not having enough rage after using your long cd fillers (slam/ww) by sneaking in a bt before you press rampage this reduces the chances of empty gcd. If you have 110 rage or higher you can safely use rampage-bb- then most likely ramp right after

[fading bane]

not really

it was first before the legendary

its first after

[south kayak]

Ah I see

[gilded pawn]

im sure the gain is all very similar

[olive wraith]

Dk love the mobility im sure

Am I overthinking by assuming fury actually gets the least amount of value because we are the highest apm spec? Like we will miss more casts than the others

[slim coral]

unironically they actually tuned us around the lgo

[cursive dome]

any aoe sheet with lego?=

[opal monolith]

Thanks alot

[gleaming crag]

500k dmg is nice but since its a dot it cant crit right?

[modest condor]

it's not a dot it's a channel, also dots can crit

[gleaming crag]

I wonder what fated dmg will look like with it

[edgy widget]

plenty of dots can crit

[mossy pollen]

Any new bis sims including axe?

[fading bane]

what would change

just put wep in hand

[mossy pollen]

min-maxing secondary stats with alternate equipment pieces

[fading bane]

💀

[past shadow]

There’s no need to min max that hard

[mossy pollen]

no, but nice to have an end goal gear wise just to know you have the best stuff.

[fading bane]

its not classi

[olive wraith]

Just run top gear every step of the way

[fading bane]

bis lists arent a thing

[cursive dome]

will the quest be able to drop from normal/hc and mythic?

[modest condor]

yes

[olive wraith]

And lfr I assume

[cursive dome]

so you have 3 goes at it each week basically

[modest condor]

if it works like the evoker lego there's no gain from doing lower difficulties

[olive wraith]

Chance at Augury

Worth

[cursive dome]

so ud want to do higher difficulty first each week i guess

[modest condor]

no

[olive wraith]

You want the complete the highest difficulty at any point

[modest condor]

doing lfr > normal > heroic gives the same chance of lego as just doing heroic

[past shadow]

Wonder if BLP will be added immediately for this. It wasn’t added until the .5 patch for evoker leggo iirc

[olive wraith]

It is

[verbal flint]

leveling my alt warrior, should i be talking annihilator without decent gear?

[olive wraith]

They’ve stated it’ll be in place at the start

[young swan]

no

[modest condor]

no you only use annihilator with T31

[verbal flint]

ok ty

is there a non t31 talent tree i could look at?

the icy veins guide only has annihilator builds

[snow edge]

There's a specific note in the interview after Blizzcon confirming BLP was immediately available

[shell terrace]

@young swan I saw legendary weapon at 26k DPS is this true ?

[snow edge]

I'd probably wait longer than an hour or two before confirming the exact DPS increase, but sure

[shell terrace]

Ok

👍

[young swan]

its actually 3 million dps

[shell terrace]

O wow

[tardy solar]

Hey all, I see on the guides its suggested to do shadowflame patch on cloak and bracers this season, but I did belt and boots last season.. Should i just upgrade the ones I have or get new items crafted?

[young swan]

yeah everyone is swapping to plate and there will be 10000 mythic fyrakk kills this week

[olive wraith]

Crafted items don’t hit max ilvl so you lose 3 ilvl worth of stats

That’s why it’s suggested we do wrist/cloak. They have the least stat spread

[tardy solar]

So it hurts less missing the 3ilvls?

[olive wraith]

Correct

[balmy shore]

not excited for the rerollers stay plate stay faithful

[tardy solar]

So basically i have to decide if its worth the gold to get new pieces crafted..

[olive wraith]

There already have been a bunch of reroller

In anticipation

[olive wraith]

Well it’ll still cost money to recraft

[tardy solar]

True, but cheaper

[nova garnet]

Jokes on them

10k single target leggo increase

[twin wedge]

is fyralath personal loot or does it drop in group loot

it looks like group loot for echo just now

[nova garnet]

Isn't going to get them to top of dps

[tardy solar]

If it works like Sark did the very first kill is group loot, rest are personal

[olive wraith]

Speak for yourself

[nova garnet]

First drop is group loot.

[olive wraith]

Warrior stonks rising

[nova garnet]

Every drop on the region after

Is pushed personal loot

So if you want 100% drop rate, go kill boss first then it plummets to abysmal rates

[modest condor]

just get the world first kill as the only person in the raid that uses 2h str

[twin wedge]

its ok ive had a bad month luck wise im sure ill get it first kill

plz and thanks in advance blizz

[fading bane]

i shouldve done this f

[olive wraith]

How many 2h str did they use

[tardy solar]

Im expecting it to drop for my guild one of the nights I miss raid

[modest condor]

2 i think

[quiet geyser]

Just 2

[modest condor]

1 blood dk and 1 fury warrior

[twin wedge]

you still wouldnt get it cause your blood dk would ninja it whileeveryones celebrating

[quiet geyser]

Fury and bdk

[edgy widget]

it's going to be personal loot

[olive wraith]

Fury!!!

[modest condor]

real

[olive wraith]

Wooooo

[tardy solar]

I'm aware

[nova garnet]

Come move to na

[edgy widget]

well then it can "drop" any time!

[nova garnet]

I need people to play with q.q

[edgy widget]

LFR in 2 weeks lol

[nova garnet]

Can't wait to get it Dec 12th from lfr

[tardy solar]

I know, but it'll still feel bad if anyone gets it while I'm not there

[tardy solar]

I know it shouldn't, but it will

[edgy widget]

I'm not even stressing

[tardy solar]

Yeah I mean. It is what it is

[twin wedge]

i wasnt that hyped cause i expectd just a str proc or smth

but it looks fucking cool

I cant wait

[nova garnet]

Yeah, this will fuck bdk parse integrity, shouldn't largely impact DPS parses

[balmy shore]

it is what it is when it comes to drops

[edgy widget]

I already know that our first is gonna be looted by a H Pal, someone's alt, or our second Warrior who always skips the first two weeks of each tier

[nova garnet]

Good play > 5% Increase for most of the leaderboard

[fading bane]

i can already feel my tilt

after not looting it every week

[inner zinc]

i can already tell i'll never see it in my hands

[edgy widget]

ofc it's not gonna drop at all if Liquid doesn't get the kill in the next 30ish hours.... 👀

[nova garnet]

I will 100% get it. Just might be a few xpacs from nowm

[tardy solar]

My guild already said they'd give it to the BDK first if it was up to them

[twin wedge]

i play a bdk as my alt so ill probably never get it on my main but get it on my bdk week 1

[fading bane]

EU privilege

[olive wraith]

Y’all ready for the 10-10-40-40

[nova garnet]

Better than 10-10-10-70 split

[inner zinc]

death knights will finally have mobility with this axe. Every 2 mins

[modest condor]

it's gonna go to our fotm reroller who played evoker last tier, got the lego, and then rerolled to plate for the new lego

[tardy solar]

Oh I would be a bit salty about that

'A bit'

[nova garnet]

I wanna collect it as mog

[modest condor]

he also picked dk, the worst option

[fading bane]

lil timmy on his boosted warrior from buying next expansion

in his first lfr queue

[balmy shore]

warrior is the best option because we are cool and fun

[modest condor]

just get shadowmourne and change your monitor settings to only show red

[nova garnet]

Have it already

[summer quail]

Fotm reroller that didnt go havoc kek

[topaz trellis]

So next reset there's a chance for the weapon to drop on Normal + Heroic and it's personal loot? Just confirming

[nova garnet]

Need more warrior tanks.

[balmy shore]

no fury warrior you are in the fury warrior channel

fury warrior only

[tardy solar]

It's per region. So currently only for EU

[topaz trellis]

Saj come on Liquid 😢

[tiny flame]

That sux!

[tardy solar]

I bet they'll make it

Still trying to decide what I wanna do for my embellishments

[clever path]

Any consensus on what kinda gear we have to destroy for the quest

Is it only s3 epic weapons?

[junior gale]

We take those good start to mythic prog

[nova igloo]

hmmmmm what to take

[left perch]

congrats to them I guess

[night stone]

I’d Pick signet brand any day

[valid moon]

Bis trinket?

[nova igloo]

its normal tho is the issue with it tho

is my my only hesitency

[night stone]

Hero chest u can farm in a +17 anyway, signet brand is harder to come by imo

[frail trout]

that's me

I mainly quit evoker to escape aug though because I didn't want to be trapped as aug if devastation was not performing well this tier

bullet successfully dodged

and our raid lead wanted a warrior so

[fierce marten]

Where Sims for axe

[inland flame]

It's in Raidbots but it returns errors if you try to sim it.

[snow edge]

Info in pins, that’s all you need for now

[frail trout]

you can sim it successfully using gear compare

and typing in the searchbox for it

was a 5.5% dps increase for me at my current 476 ilvl

replacing a 483

[fierce marten]

What ilvl weapon did you replace

[wanton mirage]

is there any boss this tier second wind is good?

[fading bane]

Nope

[fierce marten]

Ah so they need to nerf warrior is what you're saying

[fading bane]

Igirs its ok apparently

[fading bane]

Huh

[fierce marten]

Axe too stronk nerf all classes that use it

[fading bane]

All classes that use it are avg at best

[fierce marten]

Not anymore axe borken

[fading bane]

With it they make high avg or strong

[fierce marten]

Nerf when

[fading bane]

Ok cba

[fierce marten]

Avg warrior player

[snow edge]

I think it’s meant to be a funny meme, just minus the funny part

[fading bane]

So hes just annoying

Quick block

[fierce marten]

I'm a woman don't misgender me you ape

[fading bane]

«He» is in ur bio lilbro

[young swan]

timeout

stop baiting weirdo

[haughty nova]

Anyone know what the best trinkets are for mythic plus as fury atm? Are they still the two from raid or not?

[subtle lagoon]

I'm mostly excited about the m+ implications of the axe. Hopefully it makes us meta

[fading bane]

Mirror/throne one + Augury prob

[snow edge]

Pretty sure the one from Fyrakk slaps

Signet can be ok with chain pulls

[fading bane]

Augury is insane

[subtle lagoon]

I would say augury and might

But I think you can replace might with something else, I personally am a fan of the 1.5min cd it has

[fading bane]

Its that or mirror

[subtle lagoon]

3min cd

[inland flame]

Mirror is realllly big, but 3 min CD

[edgy widget]

Yeah Augury is great for M+ because you get a lot more crits in MT

[frail trout]

it performs well on dslice sim despite the 3 min cd

[inland flame]

I mean yeah it lines up with our 1.5s

[frail trout]

and it's strong on ST also as far as the sim goes

[fading bane]

I had Augury do top 2 dmg on a smolderon pulll today

1.5m hit

[edgy widget]

it can be kind of inconsistent on ST, but its still generally one of the best trinkets

[fading bane]

It can do 10% of ur dmg

Or 3%

But on avg it slaps

[final birch]

saw a ret have 8% overall from it

that + passive str

bonkers

[snow edge]

I don’t want to jinx it, but I’m sure I’ll just loot it from vault this week

[inland flame]

best we can do is 4 rings and 2 cloaks

[fading bane]

Goes hard

[subtle lagoon]

So I assume bis will be legendary and gorehowl?

[snow edge]

Probs, although any max level OH will be pretty close

[fading bane]

Gnarlroot wep also good

[inland flame]

Ya Gorehowl just has free dam in a couple dungeons, so better than nothing

But not gonna make or break anything

[fading bane]

How much does the demonbane give even

[inland flame]

I've honestly never payed attention to how much damage the bleed does

[fading bane]

Oh is it a bleed. Didnt even know

[inland flame]

Ya it's a bleed that only procs on demons.

[edgy widget]

like 1%? very little last I checked

guess it depends on how many demons you fight

[fading bane]

Timestrike wouldve gone hard

I know its good for rogues

[night dune]

Okay wow 2p 2p straight-up trounces t30 4p

I know part of it's the ilvl jump but GEEZ

[fading bane]

Its barely better, but you gain ilvl on top

[inland flame]

2p2p is really big on ST

[olive wraith]

I mean it’s a pretty huge st buff

[night dune]

Now I'm all the more anxious to get 4p t31 and see what the real endgame is like

[fading bane]

2pc2pc vs 4pc t30 is like 1-2% gain

Power is in 4pc

[night dune]

🤔

[olive wraith]

For st?

[night dune]

Maybe I just sucked with t30 roto then lol

[fading bane]

Yes

At same ilvl

[olive wraith]

1-2 doesn’t sound right

[fading bane]

But your t31 is obv higher ilvl

So its more

[meager gyro]

here we go, EU warriors incoming

[inland flame]

lol I just did a quick patchwerk sim and it was 10% for my gear

[fading bane]

But thats not same ilvl

[edgy widget]

I assume that's using the annihilator build, but you would want to compare T30 using the RB build

unless it's a very large ilvl gain

[inland flame]

Ya no I did T30 RB 4p vs T31 Ann 2p2p

And its a 3 ilvl difference

[fading bane]

Isnt that MT sim tho?

[inland flame]

Ya

[edgy widget]

that seems suspiciously high

[fading bane]

Something is wrong

[edgy widget]

oh well MT, sure

that's a whole different story lol

[inland flame]

Ya he was saying its minimal for ST

[edgy widget]

multitarget inflates everything

[fading bane]

Are you simming mt t30 vs st t31?

[inland flame]

But I was trying to prove 2p2p is a big ST up

Yes

[fading bane]

Then obv its a large gain

[inland flame]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kjQPXdT1RZ31L7WFcMfnmg

There's the sim dun make funna meh bad geer

[edgy widget]

I'm confused by your comparisons here

[inland flame]

OH WHOOPS

[edgy widget]

you're simming 3 minute 1 target patch
some of the profiles have ST talents, some have MT talents

[inland flame]

I chose the raid cleave build for T30

That's some of the difference

[fading bane]

You also gain like 60 total ilvls which is most of the gain

[edgy widget]

my advice when making these kinds of comparisons - don't try to compare too many variables at once, it can really muddy things

[inland flame]

Well I was just trying to compare T30 4p ST setup vs T31 2p2p ST, just a quick PW sim