Gonna try this because sometimes i feel like
#fury
oblique trail
With 4p you can't really use it too much
inland flame
More BT is kinda good with the 4p lol
obsidian jackal
2-2 rn
But gonna get the 4p with reset
I feel like 4p is going to help so much
inland flame
Ya it's big
warm crag
With 4p you can't really use it too much
stop spreading misinformation
warm crag
start spreading weapons (to me)
oblique trail
And Warrior is in a phenomenal spot
You will acquire a weapon in your next dungeon excursion
warm crag
i will not replace my ashkandur (1k dps loss)
oblique trail
Mirror propaganda!!
Shatter it!!
And be cursed with 7 resets worth of good luck (bad)
dull sierra
i will not replace my ashkandur (1k dps loss)
just get a 483 weap already
warm crag
i have one :D
warm crag
crying profusely
oblique trail
cry into my shoulder it's ok
warm crag
its ok we develop rezans peeper technology
oblique trail
šļø š¦
warm crag
could be us
oblique trail
It could be but you've refused me countless time when I've offered
restive peak
If any of you fucks on NA need a weppy wep I shall do my best to help trade ya 1 when Iām not pushing
Smile
I would never wish my 20ish BLH pugs on anyone
past pivot
No. Just sim and follow recommendations. They will change depending on your gear.
left perch
And Warrior is in a phenomenal spot
Itās in RWF thatās all we need to know
Rally is goat
sinful spoke
How much dps overall are you guys doing with the new tierset
Im doing 160k at most sometimes
iron sorrel
Simmed or in reality?
sinful spoke
In keys
chrome plover
depends on the key completely
iron sorrel
150k
sinful spoke
Hmmm
valid drum
Before the pump me up bosses, between 150 to 200k, depends on the tank too
stoic spear
How many rook runs to get the 2H? Did maybe 10ā¦ got some other gear so not too bummedā¦ but I want my weapon!!!
brittle crow
what do i do if i got a sudden death proc during reck
im kinda busy doing ramp bb ramp bb ramp bb
prio says send execute even if i overcap
clever path
is fury or arms better in raid/st?
stoic spear
Sudden death is just execute right? Bloodthirst or bloodbath both do more damage. I use it as filler when I donāt have enough rage for rampage
past pivot
is fury or arms better in raid/st?
TBD. Arms was ahead but Fury likely to be catching up or even ahead this week. See what tuning brings
brittle crow
def doesnt do less damage than regular bloodthirst
stoic spear
I look at damage meter and execute avg was lower than the other 2ā¦ but my mastery is low, so maybe once I have correct stats youāre correct
errant vessel
im kinda busy doing ramp bb ramp bb ramp bb
it only says send execute if you're about to lose stacks right?
brittle crow
well yea cuz u get less execute casts off too
clever path
TBD. Arms was ahead but Fury likely to be catching up or even ahead this week. S...
tbd?
brittle crow
it only says send execute if you're about to lose stacks right?
lemme check
past pivot
I look at damage meter and execute avg was lower than the other 2ā¦ but my master...
You mean better gear not correct stats.
stoic spear
Both
errant vessel
lemme check
when you have the choice of BB/BT I think it prios that unless you're gonna lose stacks
could be remembering wrong
brittle crow
when you have the choice of BB/BT I think it prios that unless you're gonna lose...
execute outprios both ramp and bt
but not bb
errant vessel
oh damn
brittle crow
but idk if we're supposed to prio execute instead of overcapping
stoic spear
Better gear yes, I was focusing on crit before joining hereā¦ so mastery and vers is way low
errant vessel
with juggernaut that is, right?
brittle crow
just in general i believe
summer quail
but idk if we're supposed to prio execute instead of overcapping
i prio execute over overcapping outside of reck but idk if that is correct
stoic spear
Look at your meters, for myself I skip execute if I have bloodbath. Donāt know what yours looks like
brittle crow
everyone skips execute if u have bloodbath
thats not the question
the question is do u execute if ur gonna overcap
stoic spear
Same with bloodthirst too for me
Rampage, blood whatever, execute, slam, whirlwind
Thatās my order
brittle crow
bloodbath always outprios rampage
summer quail
bb is prio over rampage
brittle crow
every ramp must be followed by a bb, thats the rule
stoic spear
Yeah, only shows after rampage for me.. unless Iām doing something wrong
Which is probably true, Iām new here
summer quail
yes it only shows after rampage, but you can back to back rampage sometimes(don't do that tho)
stoic spear
Ahh, yeah thatās good point
modest condor
<@105847932611231744> can u clear up confusion when do we execute
top prio: if ashen is up and it's about to drop
below bb above ramp: if ashen is up, or if you have a sudden death proc and it's about to time out
below ramp: otherwise
brittle crow
wordle
summer quail
so with ashen exe is always prio over rampage even if overcapping?
modest condor
yes
modest condor
also keep in mind that the ramp here refers to ramp when above 110 rage
below 110 rage execute always has prio
brittle crow
we rage management
so even in execute phase if reck is up and ur constantly huge rage gains, execute sits on the backburner except for maintaining juggy
stoic spear
This discord is great. So many people helping. Thank you
brittle crow
and occasional filler
modest condor
the sim has execute over ramp if juggernaut is up at all, not just if it's about to drop
brittle crow
This discord is great. So many people helping. Thank you
best discord
modest condor
yeah i personally found it curious because it means less bloodbaths and less odyn's furies, but hey, the robot knows best
magic hull
shoulder,chest,hand,legs prefered tier pieces?
stoic spear
Discord > than cold ass nature right now
serene vessel
Discord > than cold ass nature right now
ok but like look at this
brittle crow
shoulder,chest,hand,legs prefered tier pieces?
it is almost entirely irrelevant
the dps difference between optimal tier and non-optimal tier is literally 0.1%
magic hull
it is almost entirely irrelevant
thanks
serene vessel
You too my friend, 100000000000000 to 1 odds you got that on your internet
i mean definitely this isnt a picture i took, but i live right here and someone posted it. I saw it again last night when I drove back in
stoic spear
Think gear choice is in one of the intro links to discord
serene vessel
did u take?
no no im not a photographer, someone just took a picture of it. I only got to drive by it
im just in my feels for nature since im moving out of this beautiful state
stoic spear
Fair enough friend, sorry for hating on your nature. We should all see that too. I will say this discord is more about a video game though
serene vessel
no im here solely to shitpost
stoic spear
Nailed it!
summer quail
Fair enough friend, sorry for hating on your nature. We should all see that too....
this guy hasn't been in fury chat long huh
brittle folio
what are the odds i get a 2h from my pvp vault
brittle crow
1/29
wild mural
0
brittle folio
lol
i got a maxed vault...and the conquest to buy my weapon....choices...choices..
wild mural
Im just cooking them chicken wings
clever path
Wassup
brittle folio
Im just cooking them chicken wings
fathom umbra
Guys in build AOE, is prefer used Rampage > Execute? or BB > Execute > Rampage?
stoic spear
Think BB wins always. No matter what youāre doing. At least to my understanding.
barren dagger
how is 486 cloak simming worse than silent star? ain't no way right?
empty crest
aoe priorities should be exactly the same as st priorities as long as the ww buff is up
empty crest
I assume thats what you meant with the "new build"
past pivot
do we need 4pc to swap to the new build?
2P+2P is about 4P T30 or even less. Can go Arms for more dps, play 4p T30 or wait
marble swift
2P+2P is about 4P T30 or even less. Can go Arms for more dps, play 4p T30 or wai...
yeah i tried arms, its about the same dps with 2+2
im guessing fury pulls ahead with 4
compact knot
2p2p is good in raid, bad in m+
teal blade
I got like an 8k sim dps increase with 2+2
past pivot
I got like an 8k sim dps increase with 2+2
And in game?
teal blade
Havenāt had chance to try it in raid as of yet but in M+ I could do massive burst aoe
compact knot
i was defo doing more st with 2p2p then t30 4p in game
empty crest
well when I went 2p2p I upgraded my helmet from 441 to 483
and gloves from 441 to 476
so
teal blade
well when I went 2p2p I upgraded my helmet from 441 to 483
Yeah, thatāll do it
Kekw
unreal onyx
does this dmg breakdown look ok for m+?
got 4p yesterday still getting used to it
(16 fall)
teal blade
I noticed even with 2+2 my bloodbath does tonnes of damage so Iād say it looks right to me
unreal onyx
diff question, we'll be going onto volcoross myth tonight, is it worth/possible to play spear on that boss?
or keep playing roar
empty crest
why would you play roar
unreal onyx
that's what I'm wondering
if I play spear I have to be able to keep standing stationary
idk if that's a thing on that boss
soft bone
are my stats a problem for fury? im statted for arms but want to try some fury
teal blade
Haste is high
unreal onyx
should be good enough, just sim top gear
teal blade
Mastery very low
modest condor
stats are never a problem for any spec
soft bone
stats are never a problem for any spec
fair, most of my problems are skill issues but i dont think anyone here can change that š
teal blade
You just wonāt do as much damage in your enrage windows
unreal onyx
my 447 vers/mast ring sims like 1k higher than my 476 haste/mast ring 
teal blade
Vers mastery is very good at the higher ilvls
modest condor
do you have a mainstat gem in your 447 ring or something
unreal onyx
no
modest condor
sheesh
teal blade
Would be because it doesnāt give strength like they used to
And the stats are better
past pivot
ilvl means very little with rings and neck usually
teal blade
ilvl means very little with rings and neck usually
This
teal blade
Haste is pretty shite past a certain point
unreal onyx
which would bring me to 40%
teal blade
Mastery and verse would scale better
past pivot
Haste is pretty shite past a certain point
No. Just that other stats have better value
deep niche
haste is shit stat after 4p
teal blade
No. Just that other stats have better value
Yeah, exactly what i said??
unreal onyx
is it worth to just send BT with the tier bonus when I don't have enough rage for ramp and slam/ww is on cd?
or do I just autoattack until I can ramp into bb
clever path
Yeah, exactly what i said??
He's saying haste is shit in general, not just after a certain point
teal blade
He's saying haste is shit in general, not just after a certain point
Oh, my bad
past pivot
Yeah, exactly what i said??
Having less value comparatively doesn't make it a bad stat. In the right context, haste can be a very good stat.
teal blade
Yeah but like I said, past a certain point it becomes a poor (shite) stat to take
deep niche
well after 4p it went from 40% to 25% now in sims for me
and still haste items sims low for me
teal blade
We arenāt as reliant on it anymore
clever path
I still can't get rid of my 447 scalebane signet, the haste ring is simming like 1-2k lower than the 447 at 473 ilvl
past pivot
Are people still seeing double wafting? That's the interesting sim result for me? With haste diminished yet wafting over sophic.
clever path
Are people still seeing double wafting? That's the interesting sim result for me...
Yes
teal blade
If you play arms and fury itās not bad to have a lot of haste, but if you just play fury than the haste would be better if you chose mastery over it or versa
Double wafting didnāt sim well for me
Maybe now my gear has changed it might, will have to check
earnest galleon
Are people still seeing double wafting? That's the interesting sim result for me...
changes with gear a lot in my sims
spare otter
On the other wafting + spohic does more dps
teal blade
One hand double wafting does more dps
Wild
unreal onyx
Are people still seeing double wafting? That's the interesting sim result for me...
my best sim is 2x sophic
teal blade
Single minded fury on the comeback trail??
spare otter
Oops nah I didn't mean one hand
teal blade
Oops nah I didn't mean one hand
I wish you did mean it š
teal blade
If my memory is correct, it was good back in throne of thunder
inland flame
It was
teal blade
Thatās when I played it
spare otter
I only played fury in shadowlands
teal blade
I just try and do the most numbers these days š
spare otter
I miss raging blow tbh
past pivot
I miss spamstring
spare otter
Slam some weak ahhh wet Noodle slap
Even BB looks weak af (not the dmg the animation)
past pivot
Anyone else remember when people were trying to make DW arms with 1handers work? Spoiler: It didn't end well.
teal blade
I miss the old bloodbath
teal blade
Anyone else remember when people were trying to make DW arms with 1handers work?...
Wasnāt it good at one point in pvp too?
Not that Iām much of a pvp player these days
spare otter
There's something about wow PvP that makes me not want to even go near it
past pivot
Wasnāt it good at one point in pvp too?
That's where it started. Slow 1hander and a fast OH for rage generation. But was a bust in pve for obvious reasons. That's why Blizz changed it so OH was just shields.
teal blade
I miss glad stance prot warrior, but this isnāt the prot warrior section š
past pivot
can i be accepted to a +17
You can but will you?
spare otter
So you prolly ain't the only one applying
fading sky
I rly havent had any issues gettin into keys
spare otter
Why take warrior when DH/rogues/hunters exist
past pivot
Warriors are on the struggle boss
It's all dps
desert cloud
true
desert cloud
the game gives the greatest struggles to it's greatest fighters (us)
teal blade
I have a friend whoās 2900 as an outlaw
fading sky
Just dh
teal blade
Still canāt get in one tbf
fading sky
Dh is way worse than anynother dps
teal blade
Warrior rework when???
Quarter past never
past pivot
Yea DH is crazy
We're getting a legendary, not a rework.
fading sky
i mean DH do 10% more dmmg than us
Way more in keys
desert cloud
yea i also have an assa giga rogue that doesn't get invited to a single key
teal blade
They have to make us happy some how
earnest galleon
We're getting a legendary, not a rework.
cant wait to be balanced in week 20 because of rng
desert cloud
Way more in keys
i usually pump 200K+ and the other demon hunter cutting edge giga destroyer does like 235K
which is 10% more like i said
fading sky
In keys?
desert cloud
overall
inland flame
Dragonflight reworks are a hell of a drug
desert cloud
lemme do maths
true sapphire
That's 15%
fading sky
Ye. But try everbloom
true sapphire
Like 14.9%
fading sky
But 15% in current balance is a lot
desert cloud
Ye. But try everbloom
i mean we can pad aswell
true sapphire
RNG and they round up to 20% instead of rounding down to your 10%, it's significant
fading sky
i mean we can pad aswell
Not if dh is ther2
desert cloud
what abt on the tree boss
i'm usually first in dmmg on that one
cuz i kinda pad but still
compact knot
fury good at burst aoe
desert cloud
fury good at burst aoe
nuh uh not as good as DH
oh wait
maybe if i run mirror next week
instead of cataclysmic
spare otter
Cata is so big for st tho
compact knot
the throne of tides on use is super undervalued
i think its super bis on smolderon
if it wasnt crit though as a stat it would be alot better
red berry
nah i dont think its undervalued - on use trinkets like that are weighted heavily by sims. its what people wanted in BFA. its what people wanted in DF when underrot came back
compact knot
yeah
spare otter
Even on pull?
compact knot
i mean if you want to do big add damage you do
you can even save odyns fury for it
and just blow everything on first roots
compact knot
i mean thats fine too
odyns was legit my highest on my killl though lmfao
shit kinda cranks
scarlet sapphire
anybody knows the name of the bleed effect of Odyns fury, tried to put it as debuff into plater but it wont show above the nameplate
spare otter
I just don't know if adds will survive long enough for me to even get all my CDs out
compact knot
well you likely wont kill it first pull on heroc
compact knot
so figure out whos pumping
serene vessel
like great fight design, but lorewise itself and just overall vibes, it doesn't really give off the "last boss" feel you normally have in a raid
south kayak
am i crazy or does fyrakk feel just super anticlimactic
That's because there's more storyline with the next few patches
spare otter
Retail wow fails the vibe check
serene vessel
That's because there's more storyline with the next few patches
sounds like cope for them pushing out the patch early
like watching RWF i definitely feel like the voice lines and everything are just very lackluster for a final boss
south kayak
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inland flame
Radeinestra the Observer
summer idol
Trying to get into a party for 30 minutes, feels good to be warrior
light tapir
I think the fight itself is cooler than sark at least but otherwise it's p mid
teal blade
I think the fight itself is cooler than sark at least but otherwise it's p mid
I didnāt mind sark mythic honestly, didnāt manage to kill it tho sadly only got into p3
Razageth tho, what a dog shit fight
unreal onyx
sark was fun imo
teal blade
Not as bad as the jailer mind you
teal blade
Heroic was bad enough
red berry
i loved raz but i havent progged mythic in awhile nor i have cared to
im sure he was annoying on mythic
celest sierra
Raz is still the hardest boss this entire expansion. Some people stilla int kill H raz
unreal onyx
we killed sark 1 day before the 2nd to last nerfs 
unreal onyx
and rasz on the day of the last nerfs
oblique trail
Having progged Rasza pre-omega nerfs, I'd definitely say that the hardest part is just not falling asleep until P3
silver mantle
Captain, please explain.
compact knot
simply just better
oblique trail
Obviously haven't touched Fyrakk mythic yet, but from watching he definitely looks harder than Rasza
tulip swallow
I am not looking forward to halondrus 2.0
he's insane, they're gong to have to nerf him a lot for late CE guilds
red berry
how many pulls is liquid up to now?
oblique trail
380 according to WCLogs
modest condor
where secret phase
oblique trail
It should have bad luck protection from the start
But
for all I know it might as well be a myth..
rotund steppe
i mean it wasnt confirmed the bad luck protection?
red berry
it was, yes
oblique trail
yeah my wording is just terrible
iron portal
Dman
red berry
that doesn't mean that people might not go awhile without seeing it anyway
im more just curious to see what itll doo
oblique trail
It'll have a chance to spawn the rift he spawns during the fight that'll build up and eventually explode
oblique trail
Do not let it have a pull in effect
daring zephyr
As long as it isnāt as awful as gavel Iāll be happy. I hated having to find that stupid mob to kill as I was trying to pop off in CDs
chrome plover
there was one on jailer right?
rich storm
Just as planned
urban drum
anyone know of any WAs or addons that display totem health in ataldazar? current just mousing over kinda annoying
eternal sundial
anyone know of any WAs or addons that display totem health in ataldazar? current...
Boss frames hello
But u could make was for it
urban drum
lel boss frames was disabled in my UI XD ty
scarlet sapphire
when i look at my details the goal is to have as much Bloodbath casts as Rampage casts right? š
fading sky
As long as it isnāt as awful as gavel Iāll be happy. I hated having to find that...
ill take the hassle for the immense power of gavel NGL
rotund steppe
when i look at my details the goal is to have as much Bloodbath casts as Rampage...
pretty much
flat river
1.79% best pull fyrakk on echo
rotund steppe
thanks internet explorer
flat river
yw
rotund steppe
<3
flat river
<3
rotund steppe
i want this race to be over already!
flat river
same
rotund steppe
i want to see what the legendary does
flat river
when axe? 
frosty karma
is there some special smolderon tech to get the mnost out of the damage amp because i never have any cd ready
i tried leaving orbs far in the back
rotund steppe
is there some special smolderon tech to get the mnost out of the damage amp beca...
save cds lmao
frosty karma
but i dont have pattern memorized yet
young swan
yeah u drop ur orbs at the edge of the room and dont collect them until they float in naturally
by that point u should have cd's
dim spindle
i want to see what the legendary does
Slam critical strikes apply an absorb shield, 1.4 PPM
Ability that triggers it changes per class/spec
dim spindle
when axe? <a:woo:1171395617839382559>
Won't see it until they finish the questline after M fyrakk, which involves gathering 40 axe shards. 3 per future M fyrakk kill
My cousin works for blizzard btw
compact knot
thats rng
compact knot
oh mythic
flat river
Won't see it until they finish the questline after M fyrakk, which involves gath...
please say you're kidding
compact knot
he is kidding
flat river
phew
devout totem
100% seirous statement :kappa:
dim spindle
Yup the plan is for mythic raiders to have it by mid 10.2.5
Us plebs, by mid 10.2.7. But hey, it'll kick ass for delves!
urban drum
any reason why avatar is cast towards end of rotation with OF first?
dim spindle
Max your bleed/buff time
Not a huge increase, but an increase nonetheless
I think 4 seconds is what you're aiming for... maybe 3? Don't remember off hand
gilded pawn
3 is fine
rotund steppe
i do 4
chrome plover
3-4 :)
oblique trail
As long as you do it right before/as your OF Avatar runs out you're fine
So keep your eye on that Avatar and you don't have to sit and count in your head
scarlet sapphire
and you reduce cd of OF with tierset, so you wanne keep it on Cd otherwise the reduce part would be useless
fading sky
roar then
gilded mountain
am i dumb or did they add another 2h to the m+ drop pool
since when did tott drop one?>
wtf
scarlet sapphire
i mean you already are, arent you? kappa
tardy lark
got him
chrome plover
spear is already tilting me on smolderon
SAME
maybe i go roar
innovate
only -0.8%
damage amp doesnt matter right :copege
winter shoal
Unironically if spear gets you killed then roar will be more dam
I'm a certified spear hater though
oblique trail
am i dumb or did they add another 2h to the m+ drop pool
It has dropped ever since it was added back in Cataclysm
oblique trail
it is what it is
silent gazelle
its so whack arms and fury want opposite stats
chrome plover
it really is
dense light
I just got the fyrakk hc axe, time to go single minded fury!
silent gazelle
Like the fuck am I supposed to do with these stats as fury lmao
oblique trail
Idk play with the stats?
past pivot
I just got the fyrakk hc axe, time to go single minded fury!
Thatās so sad.
regal grotto
Like the fuck am I supposed to do with these stats as fury lmao
Mine look just like that too, itāll fix itself when you get the right off pieces
dense light
Thatās so sad.
plucky ice
tardy lark
arms owns
chrome plover
š
ashen socket
Cause fury is better
thats why
better survivability better self healing
same damage
could probably argue its profile is better for the rwf
dusk ledge
I'm looking for a good macro for trinket, recklessness, Blood Fury and perhaps more? What could i combine you'd say>?
I had Odyn's Fury in it b4
but ive learned from raidbots i shouldn't fury before im enraged
which makes sense š
ashen socket
Are you talking for st or aoe?
ashen socket
I would say dont macro reck but you can macro avatar and roar/trinkets together
dusk ledge
ah yea
ashen socket
Just reck before you charge and you should have enough rage to use rampage
dusk ledge
that'd work
ashen socket
for aoe and if ur running Titanic rage you dont need to rampage first
since it gives you enrage
summer quail
Why no arms in RWF
they've swapped back and forth between arms and fury on the last boss
dusk ledge
i mean just comfort of less gcd's?
ashen socket
I run it in keys
iron portal
We all know
dusk ledge
even in tyrannical?
summer quail
and arms has seen more play than fury on other bosses
ashen socket
Im sure you can argue either way
dusk ledge
i'd say 80% of progress ppl playing fury warriors
ashen socket
the difference is probably so small its a you do you call
dusk ledge
look at top logs on warcraftlogs, main is fury
chrome plover
i'd say 80% of progress ppl playing fury warriors
depends on boss
dusk ledge
majority*
chrome plover
I think 3 of the early bosses were majority arms
dusk ledge
not anymore
summer quail
also, fury is just super popular in general. there are tons of fury otps
ashen socket
P sure fury is preforming better on the longer fights since we have a better execute phase now
hollow ridge
also, fury is just super popular in general. there are tons of fury otps
loud and proud 
summer quail
P sure fury is preforming better on the longer fights since we have a better exe...
are you trying to say that fury has better execute phase than arms? if so that's just not true, however if you're saying that fury has a better execute phase than it did before then that's very true
ashen socket
The 2nd
Fury has felt like it hasn't had an execute phase in awhile and now it does feel like it has one
summer quail
ye tru, hasn't had one in DF before now
ashen socket
idk how close fury and arms are in execute but ik its alot closer than its been all patch
expac*
and as for outside of execute idk who is preforming better
as I haven't played with an equal arms this patch
summer quail
outside of exe fury performs better for sure
terse ether
hello boys,came back from 2 weeks holidays, loits to catch on.. .
what our embellishments now?
heavy folio
Is the mythic kill leggo unlock global or eu needs to wait for echo if liquid kills first?
And vice versa
ashen socket
Cringe if it is
young swan
cant remember what it was like last tier
ashen socket
Ideally both guilds kill it today
oblique trail
I mean if it is region locked, it wont really matter that much unless either of the guilds choke hard until the last moment before reset
Both guilds are very close to killing him
young swan
double seed + 4 deaths
ashen socket
P sure fury was played for all end tier bosses this expac right?
young swan
they griefed
hardy flint
Could someone direct me to which options I should be using in simc for M+ . I was originally using 5 bosses 2 minutes
young swan
dslice is fine
hardy flint
Wasn't sure if dungeon slice was reliable
ashen socket
Is dslice fine? thought is was jank
young swan
you can also sim 5 tar 5 min + ST patchwerk and extrapolate
chrome plover
P sure fury was played for all end tier bosses this expac right?
sark played 1 of each i think
cant remember
hardy cargo
you can also sim 5 tar 5 min + ST patchwerk and extrapolate
something to take away from this is that MT sim lacks precision atm unless silm has, since earlier today, fixed apl issues
serene vessel
wait is silm who does the apl?
young swan
its a collobrative effort
hardy cargo
he mentioned within the last day or so he needed to fix some things with MT
where it wasnt prioritizing bb on aoe
spare otter
what do you remove to take wrecking throw?
oblique trail
1 point of crushing force
hardy flint
The other thing is, for tyrannical is it best to sim AoE talents and then ST patchwerk?
hardy cargo
5t 5m I ran earlier today ended up casting ramp like 30 more times than bb, for reference it casted ramp 103 times
and bb 76 times
dapper goblet
š©āš¦Æ
dusk ledge
Stats look decent don't it?
tardy lark
they certainly are stats
fiery storm
youd never know there was a fury warr in liquid's world run LMFAO
oblique trail
It's stats of all time
dusk ledge
i could go more mastery running buzzing runes atm, but i guess i should just sim it š
summer quail
youd never know there was a fury warr in liquid's world run LMFAO
there to buff the other melees
fiery storm
there to buff the other melees
oh i know im just mocking our class rn lol
wild mural
rip
olive wraith
Execute harder
rotund steppe
100% ur fault
olive wraith
Letās see those bb numbers
rotund steppe
exe harder
summer quail
oh i know im just mocking our class rn lol
it's ok surely the legendary will make up for the absolutely massive difference between us and rogues/havoc 
olive wraith
Did you died
wild mural
spare otter
youd never know there was a fury warr in liquid's world run LMFAO
tbf fury usually ends up around 4-5th on dps charts when adds spawn
olive wraith
Dh/rogue surely gonna get nerfed
fiery storm
it's ok surely the legendary will make up for the absolutely massive difference ...
lol well see what kind of drop rate it is or how difficult it is to get š¦
spare otter
it's the same with tindral
rotund steppe
crafters are gonna make us sell our mothers for the craft
olive wraith
I had a bm Hunter do 110k overall in a 17 brh this morning 
serene vessel
rip
olive wraith
How close did they get last night?
serene vessel
lmao
fiery storm
echo got closest recently at 1.79%
slim coral
Itās so close
fiery storm
i just need it to die so i can get my axe.....lol
young swan
serene vessel
how do you think they feel, they legit have two 400 pull bosses back to back
my mental would be shot
slim coral
Liquid would of just killed it but they died to the last blaze
fiery storm
meh they get paid to play vid games lol i wish
heavy folio
Retail 400k viewers on ttv, blizzard probably mad they decided to make a 1 year gap until the next race kek
ebon shore
i just need it to die so i can get my axe.....lol
surely u will get it
serene vessel
meh they get paid to play vid games lol i wish
i think ur vastly overestimating how much they get paid
fiery storm
i think ur vastly overestimating how much they get paid
no im not lol they still get paid and make that choice good on them
rotund steppe
how much tho
serene vessel
id be willing to bet they're getting paid like $15/hr or less
heavy folio
Top raiders probably get bigger slices
young swan
nah
serene vessel
wasnt there a drama leak like a few years ago
young swan
officers get a bigger slice
serene vessel
where method got leaked how much they get paid
ebon shore
i think ur vastly overestimating how much they get paid
either way they're not paid to play this game 24/7 not to mention they prob get a lot of shit such as pcs cos of sponsors (liquid for sure)
serene vessel
and it was legit a pittance
fiery storm
hey man u get paid 15/hr to do something bigger in the future...i have 0 sympathy they r making this choice lol
young swan
raiders get poverty wages
not that it matters for the EU boys
cause they have real work/living conditions over there
serene vessel
sadge
tardy lark
its a little more than what you'd get paid by the government as a student in denmark
which you can live off of if you dont live in any of the bigger cities
serene vessel
im sure soemone can find it but i remember someone leaked screenshots from method because there was drama about the salaries
tardy lark
it was from BDGG
serene vessel
it wasnt much
slim coral
Secret phase at 0 percent surely
wild mural
I should get a salary to play this game
tardy lark
BDGG also gone 
slim coral
Imagine being blizz
serene vessel
Well BDGG hasnāt won anything
this was also years ago when venture capital groups were more interested in esports tho
rotund steppe
i wonder if max ads go to the team or to him
serene vessel
esports as a whole is declining salary wise
olive wraith
787
past pivot
I should get a salary to play this game
Thatās called welfare.
edgy oasis
start of Swift, people holding Roar etc for padding?
serene vessel
Itās free marketing
i know blizzard makes a lot of dumb decisions, but id be willing to bet they've recognized its simply not worth it
young swan
@tardy lark knows all about that
winter shoal
start of Swift, people holding Roar etc for padding?
You can check Revvez vods
young swan
dont u, beyblade boy
serene vessel
I dont think RWF is simply something that attracts a newer audience
no one who doesnt play wow will know wtf is going on
rotund steppe
I dont think RWF is simply something that attracts a newer audience
it doesnt, it attracts raiders
slim coral
i know blizzard makes a lot of dumb decisions, but id be willing to bet they've ...
They also thought ap heavy grinds with no account wide benefits was good
young swan
And not pushing this
they were going to but a certain controversy led them to not
serene vessel
they'll just see the same thing happen for 400 pulls
young swan
at least thats what i heard
serene vessel
and they'll quit
hardy flint
Secret phase will happen during the final cutscene for sure
winter shoal
no one who doesnt play wow will know wtf is going on
People like watching even if they don't understand, it's the same with like dota and league tournaments
olive wraith
no one who doesnt play wow will know wtf is going on
Thatās kinda true for all esports things though
serene vessel
People like watching even if they don't understand, it's the same with like dota...
dota tournaments are at least differnet though, each match up is a different team, its new match ups etc
if you watch RWF, you watch 400 pulls of the same boss
olive wraith
Like if you didnāt play/know league you wouldnāt watch
serene vessel
until everything clicks
slim coral
I started playing wow because I saw the RWf actually
olive wraith
Or understand wtf is going on
tardy lark
<@198808002629730304> knows all about that
what do i know? susge
winter shoal
Idk I have a bunch of friends who haven't played wow since like cataclysm and watch all the RWFs
young swan
what do i know? susge
padding on tindral
heavy folio
It must suck now, you'd want to take a break and refresh but the other team is so close that you cant
olive wraith
Thereās no way people watch dota/league without being at least a little familiar
hardy flint
I started playing WoW because of Asmon. Now I can't watch him play without cringing. Still makes me laugh though
serene vessel
Idk I have a bunch of friends who haven't played wow since like cataclysm and wa...
that I think is the only people who it has the option of being worth marketing to. People who played before and might come back
i just think the market is too small otherwise tho
slim coral
If it wasnāt for RWF I would of never played wow or found Asmongold
rotund steppe
I started playing WoW because of Asmon. Now I can't watch him play without cring...
bold of you to think he plays wow lmao
heavy folio
Cs is most casual friendly, mobas/wow are dark magic for most
young swan
shooters in general are very casual friendly
rotund steppe
since SL he has done non stop react content
serene vessel
If it wasnāt for RWF I would of never played wow or found Asmongold
just curious, what games did u play pre wow?
serene vessel
no other mmo?
slim coral
No
serene vessel
interesting
olive wraith
Maplestory
rotund steppe
Dofus lmao
young swan
I think i technically played RS before wow
but i started playing wow before I could read quest text
so
serene vessel
maybe im wrong, and maybe they generally are just missing out on a marketing opportunity, but I just feel like if you aren't into mmos you'd have little interest in RWF
slim coral
I find that not true
olive wraith
Or if you did youād be such a tiny minority
slim coral
People have a big misunderstanding of what wow is
rotund steppe
People have a big misunderstanding of what wow is
a gacha game?
young swan
maybe im wrong, and maybe they generally are just missing out on a marketing opp...
I think its very easy to get people invested in storylines; so you dont really need to sell the mmo, just the story behind the race
serene vessel
I think raiders have a big misunderstanding of what wow is. The majority of wow players don't even touch a mythic raid boss
slim coral
maybe im wrong, and maybe they generally are just missing out on a marketing opp...
My friend thought wow was for nerds and never even saw gameplay just called it DnD lit
Now heās addicted
And plays mage
wild mural
boss
serene vessel
If you're even in a class discord I feel like you're a 1% of players
rotund steppe
tf is that assa rogue doing
serene vessel
tf is that assa rogue doing
HIS BEST OK
olive wraith
Do you see his name
wild mural
tf is that assa rogue doing
living up to his name
young swan
consider that 1% is still 100000 players tho
at minimum
this discord alone has 100k+ members
thats not taking into account other unique accounts from the other class discords
summer quail
this discord is me and my 10000 alts
and xan
and critcake
unreal onyx
for the 4p, do cleaved crits also count towards the CDR of OF?
summer quail
no
fading sky
i know it ingens is SIM YO SELF
unreal onyx
slim coral
All it took was for me to see liquid randomly doing jaina prog and the game got me hooked ever since
fading sky
but is it true that fury doesnt want as much Haste as before ( im former arms ) that have to switch stats around, and start farming for some items
fading sky
yeye but like we dont want like 40% haste r?
so trying to increasing my mastery and my versa a bit
and crit is ok now ?
past pivot
but is it true that fury doesnt want as much Haste as before ( im former arms ) ...
At 4p t31, you might want more more mastery or vers. Depends on gear and if simming MT or ST.
Or crit. No stat is really bad. Just depends which is better for you at the time
fading sky
fack me
yeye but i have no versa matery š
but its np now i know which rings and shit to get
fading sky
nah im not changing until i have somewhat ok stats š
past pivot
You donāt even know what āok statsā are without simming. How are you going to switch?
plucky ice
chrome plover
You donāt even know what āok statsā are without simming. How are you going to sw...
I do š®
ember island
Idk why everyone has such a hardon for secondary stats I feel like they hardly matter for us.
heavy folio
1/33/7 leet stats
light tapir
100% leech or bust
chrome plover
they do matter quite a bit to be fair
summer quail
for the 4p, do cleaved crits also count towards the CDR of OF?
to answer this more properly, you only get cdr from 1 crit even if several cleaved ones crit. but you still get cdr if a cleaved bt crits but not the main one
so 1 cdr max per bt
chrome plover
a same ilvl amulet for me is like 4k dps becauase mine has bad stats
ember island
I'd love to see the dps spread from optimal secondaries to worst/random.
cursive pebble
whats stat prio for szn 3?
modest condor
bloodmallet has an approximation
forest owl
what trinkets are looking good for m+ this season?
fading sky
i mean i can c its not to bad , im missing a ring from raid thats crit heavy, and then neck from brh and weapon from RISE
š i smell rise weapon from vault
š
chrome plover
what trinkets are looking good for m+ this season?
I like might of the ocean and rezan for tyr and probably crab for fort
olive wraith
Branch fucks
forest owl
I like might of the ocean and rezan for tyr and probably crab for fort
i have 476 brand and 463 mirror, the 3min mirror feels horrible though
chrome plover
i have 476 brand and 463 mirror, the 3min mirror feels horrible though
yeah 3 mins is a bit too long
might of the ocean is kinda like a baby mirror
serene vessel
liquid better kill it here so i can get my legendary in vault
young swan
wild mural
yes
chrome plover
I have branch too but idk I didnt like it as much
olive wraith
It wrecks shit
forest owl
liquid better kill it here so i can get my legendary in vault
lmao us warriors just want someone to kill last boss, dun matter who we just want the axe already xD
olive wraith
Itās better beacon
serene vessel
wish they'd just make legendaries that werent class specific but it is what it is
Legendary helm
crown for a king
fading sky
wish they'd just make legendaries that werent class specific but it is what it i...
ehm
weapon is not class specific
what more u want ?
serene vessel
i mean its still class specific
clever path
wish they'd just make legendaries that werent class specific but it is what it i...
legion
serene vessel
theres like 4 classes that can use it
fading sky
exactly
serene vessel
but since only 4 classes can use it they get balanced around it
fading sky
makes it legendary
forest owl
what's the best way to sim aoe m+, 5 target 20s/40s?
serene vessel
fellas
just because i havent been able to watch much of it
is this imexile wiping them?
spark maple
we need to ignore wowhead dps meters, fury>arms
forest owl
how is porcelain crab in m+?
spark maple
all the guilds racing have fury warr not arms šŖ
rotund steppe
next week its gonna be the opposite
serene vessel
tbh considering the last like 40% is what matters the most im surprised they dont have an arms warrior
forest owl
i was wondeering if sims were bait or something it keeps showing up as a nice upgrade in 20/40/60s 5 target sims
summer quail
tbh considering the last like 40% is what matters the most im surprised they don...
i mean they
they have swapped back and forth several times
rotund steppe
cant wait for this race to be ove
fading sky
tbh considering the last like 40% is what matters the most im surprised they don...
nah
rotund steppe
cant wait for the nerf hammet dropping
serene vessel
i definitely wanna see the balance changes coming out
fading sky
all dmg matter yuski it pushes on time as well ?. and arms is just not strong enough and lives enough
rogues do better st and shit as well
and fury has good execute as well with contempt
olive wraith
I mean fury doesnāt have awful execute damage
compact gulch
2p+2p or wait for 4p? Opinions?
summer quail
fury has the survivability edge, if the big adds were the problem they would play arms
olive wraith
And I assume the first 65% fury bulls ahead
rotund steppe
i mean im loving the 650-700k exes with bb
summer quail
2p+2p or wait for 4p? Opinions?
2p2p for raid, wait for 4p for m+ imo the new build does not feel good in m+ until you get the cdr
fading sky
fury has the survivability edge, if the big adds were the problem they would pla...
isnt the problem that theres classes that do better cleave ?:D
at 2 target
summer quail
ye, but they need a warrior in general and arms 2t cleave is still really good. even if assa rogue is just incredibly overtuned
olive wraith
I like 2/2 in m+
summer quail
heard that boss is easier than gnarlroot, but i haven't done mythic yet
wild mural
this seems easier than gnarl
fading bane
does Second Wind even work on any raid boss anymore?
past pivot
2p+2p or wait for 4p? Opinions?
Arms 2+2 then back to fury for 4p t31
summer quail
does Second Wind even work on any raid boss anymore?
idk, there was rashok last tier but not tested it out this tier
fading bane
swear it never works on anything
young swan
swear it never works on anything
it works on some mechanics on igira but i cant remember which
but its also cancelled by others so it literally doesnt matter
lyric panther
does this BRH weapon even exist, I've done 38 BRH this week and not even seen anyone else get it never mind me š”
olive wraith
Brh is a banger dungeon at least
Wish I had 4p this week for entangled. Makes the affix even more free
wild mural
none of the weapons exist
iron sorrel
<:yep:703420923625078804>
....
seeing your banner maybe rƤikkƶnen will bless me with a weapon in the vault
light stump
do we go for primal molten wrist or allied versatility? or both sim approximately the same?
(I'm at very early gear so have no idea what will sim better once I have 2p/4p)
iron sorrel
surely there will be a 483 gorehowl in the vault
olive wraith
do we go for primal molten wrist or allied versatility? or both sim approximatel...
Molten with shadow patch is better for ST. Allied is decent st, better mt plus you get more tanky
light stump
Molten with shadow patch is better for ST. Allied is decent st, better mt plus y...
ty ty
thin cliff
This is the Way
wild mural
I outdpsed my sim
summer quail
did you have wft? if not you can blame it on that
wind abyss
how long should i hold cooldowns on smolderon to align with orbs
weak forge
wild mural
we're cooking over here
I was a early adopter of forgestorm smf
I did dagger spec warrior also
burnt stone
Hello brothers
It's still in the distant future, but what are you going to make for the 3rd production item? (Excluding wrists and cloak)
warm crag
ring gets a socket ye
dapper goblet
š©āš¦Æ
warm crag
xeos can we get some more paragraphs i beg
dapper goblet
yeah in the next expansion alpha
oblique trail
the first patchnote is deletion of brown class
meager void
Hello brothers
It's still in the distant future, but what are you going to make ...
ring for socket and flavor pocket
wild mural
we are cooking in here
rotund steppe
finally ranged warrior
median marsh
on Tindral fight, i should keep thanderous roar only for the roots adds?
or just cast it on cd?
wild mural
on Tindral fight, i should keep thanderous roar only for the roots adds?
or just...
if you're not holding it for too long
fading sky
probably a ring
Deffo for pocket š
eager wraith
Guys i tested DH and wtf they are so broken
wild mural
Guys i tested DH and wtf they are so broken
wanna know what's even more broken
eager wraith
wanna know what's even more broken
Demon hunter hold the demon?
rotund steppe
nah the nerf hammer that comming as soon as Fyrrak dies
light tapir
Our hopes and dreams?
wild mural
Demon hunter hold the demon?
my cooking
eager wraith
wtf am i looking at, a troll hunter with warrior transmog
wild mural
wtf am i looking at, a troll hunter with warrior transmog
a troll warrior with a gun
rotund steppe
the opposite
eager wraith
makes sense, warrior so weak we need to be a ranged class now
wild mural
warrior strong šŖ
eager wraith
What is my purpose?
- you apply battle shout
wild mural
I provide DPS
eager wraith
what's that yellow and purple color
rotund steppe
i still say ur assa its trash
wild mural
eager wraith
btw guys, real talk
What the fuck makes my bag of crisps change taste depending on what month i buy them? its the same flavor bag but it can totally change the flavor in june compared to november
rotund steppe
the amount of water the potato had while growing
also the heat
also the quality of oil used
spiral ridge
Expired lol
terse ether
Hello team,
2 questions ;
- Is Rezan trinket bis ?
- What embellishments we use now?
rotund steppe
Hello team,
2 questions ;
1) Is Rezan trinket bis ?
2) What embellishments w...
sim, and sim
rezan is good but depends on situation
terse ether
so embellishments?
we do x2 Shadowflame or x1 shadowflame and vers wrist?
clever path
Hello team,
2 questions ;
1) Is Rezan trinket bis ?
2) What embellishments w...
For mythic dungeons trinkets yes
For ST
spare otter
my logs are so inconsistent holy shit
meager gyro
stop fucking up
spare otter
i'm trying man... i'm trying
meager gyro
more likely your team fuck up and you can't do dmg sometimes
rotund steppe
try harder
meager gyro
Larodar dmg is so dependent on whole team doing well
spare otter
yea idk how i messed up smolderon and nymue so bad
meager gyro
especially tanks, and let's face it, they put you on tank duty if they can afford to lose your dmg
spare otter
must be CD issue
rotund steppe
smold its easy to fuck up the cds
meager gyro
I bet we can cook some WAs just for smolderon that give us timers as to when to hold CDs or not
spare otter
are you supposed to hold them for dmg buff?
i just sent everything on cd because we Bl on pull
terse ether
For mythic dungeons trinkets yes
for embelisments ?
rotund steppe
why u bl on pull
meager gyro
why the fuck
rotund steppe
u bl in the intermition with orbs
meager gyro
š¤£
meager gyro
you get your orbs, then you have 100% dmg bonus
meager gyro
see prob is your team is shit dawg
terse ether
Here's a question.
When I have bloodboth from RA and enough rage to rampage, do I prio rampage or throw bloodbath first?
meager gyro
that's why it's easy for you to pump parse on Tswifty
warm crag
you're not playing for rampage with this build
