#fury
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Skyhold, should I use curio and follow BIS list for tier piece selection or whatever sims highest now, helm is massive but not chosen for bis list suggested tier
Anyone know for sure if the tier piece for keystone master, PvP version, gets same iLVL after upgrade as PvE? It has same upgrade track (hero)
I’m pretty sure it’s hero track
helm is fine
@olive wraith ty my guy
It is hero
take the upgrade now
but 6/6 hero Pvp = same as Pve 6/6 hero right?
Oh wait idk
no
Stats are the same iirc but it scales in pvp. PVE chest doesn't. Might be other differences when you read the tooltips
Yeah i know that different, i ment ilvl difference on 6/6
I think it should be the same, so on 6/6 it would only be PvP scale diff
How can I get that from details?
Last season pvp scale didn’t change when you upgraded
I think it’s the same this season. Just the pve ilvl upgrades
Like the pvp set changed to 450 in pvp but the pve ilvl was like 418 or something
Btw what is the best embelishment right now for raid ? The guide suggests 2 shadowflame but the subcreation shows people running vers wrist on both raid and m +
you have to look at damage before ozumat
Single target double patch sims higher
People are doing allied wrists cause it’s good for aoe. Plus added bonus for giving damage reduction
Finished my m+ vault, still havent seen a single weapon drop xD champion/Veteran gang for life
I guess shadowflame is better then since tindral fyrakk is mostly single target
Only 8 runs?
Well don’t forget you get survivability from allied
You don’t gain value on a sum for taking less damage
Our new 4set turned Fury's pacing into shit 😒
I try to convince myself that shadowflame is better because i dont even have wrist crafted for seasn 1 xD
Howso
finished as in 8x 18+
lol what
how is m+ damage bad?
the new 4 set is the 4 set from last tier on crack
he's right we're terrible
btw if i create wrist i still keep my 1 shadowflame or i rather run frostfire legs ?
We are still gcd locked
instead of stacking blood thirsts you just get 3 of them for free at a higher power
and all your damamge is in one burst instead of spread out
why does wowhead say fyrakk weapon is a good alternative? is it a SMF build or? 🙂
wat
Fyrakk weapon is bis. You just can’t get it yet 
yes smf is an option if you reall ycant find a 2h
but as soon as you get any 2h at a close ilvl
2h wins
Rarely have down time
you got any talents for it just to try it out since i got the 1h from fyrakk 😄
Plenty of cool 1hs
show me a single 1h from last 2 years that doesnt look like a dagger
They should just make smf a transmog thing
You have 0 valid opinions in regards to transmog you demon lol
If that was you posting pics a couple of days ago
you wanna get oneshot or what
not even close
yea take a log playing with decnt players on high keys , espicaly with DH / rog and bm
is fyrakk dead yet? i wana get my axe
no, 10%

im having a few sec after cds here and there jsut waiting for a global to come up
you arent using slam
slam? you mean raging blow junior?
We are crafting cape and wrists this season for emb. The choice is allied wrist or molten vambraces with patch
believe me those are not decent player who know there class , bm will destroy you in M+ and so will a DH
Forgestorm
we excel a bit in ST , but overall aoe is very week from the top specs
I love how everyone only ever links brh or throne
sporecloack O_o ?
That’s a rotation issue
So it was you
YO did they change Foul Bolt on last boss ToT so it's not reflectable??
it is
shadowflame patch cape
i reflected it last night while tanking
i use haste pants
since i already have boots and wrist with patch i guess i will keep the boots and craft the allied wrist
My mog is a true warrior i gained 56k dps when i switched to it, your hate only fuels my damage meters 
Everyone always links throne and brh where you can mash cds and burst during the buff phase to throw off damage. I wanna see shots of warriors smashing fuckin everbloom
Who’s got a 200+ everbloom for me
Its the 3rd icon from the ?. but u gotta untalent annihilator. pick the icon. then talent it back
i had a 200k dht
My b I wasn’t clear on the cloak. Forgot sporecloak was a thing 
I’ll take it
everbloom is a giga high overall dungeon
can i send yt link here? with foul bolt last night clearly going trhrough reflect? Im curious if im not seeing something there since i don't know how bugged reflect is
everbloom is where the fun is at

Yes I know - no one ever links it
my key still hasnt turned into murozond, atal, tot.. 😢
cream worthy crits
I just got my first MS crit over a mill in BRH
idk i was prot while reflecting maybe it just busts dps
your reflect was too late
how was it too late its a bolt and it clearly was on
maybe to late reflect
does it need to be on before casts finishes?
before
this isnt classic this is retail u cant vanish a coil thats already coming for u etc
well for most of the bolts you actually can reflect while its mid-air
no you cant
maybe placebo thinking from me
you have to press it during the cast
thank you then
u legit have to press it before it finished for all spells
I was under the impression all the time that its about the animation
nah it was long ago
for example in classic u can reflect late with reflector trinket and it gets bounced. no idea when it change in retail but many years ago
Average blizzshart
Why so, bad luck?
Ah excellent, can't use emojis from other servers cause why the fuck should you be able to, but yeah 😂
For me it's the opposite, 9 times out of 10 I get jack shit
its good for my pugs i keep having to trade them my shit
Most of the shit I get is a result of me having to beg like fucking oliver twist or some shit, when someone gets something I need
Good for you I think. You might need it 
its possible you can but you also casted SR after the cast went off
it has to snapshot the relect
ye those folks above told me, my understanding of the spell was incorrect
Is everyone swapping to fury now? Arms was the hype week 1, but noticed most high end warriors went fury
The tier set is REALLY good for fury single target. Arms got some giant number buffs going into the patch, so until 4p acquisition, arms was ahead by a decent amount
Didn’t think the fury 4set was that much better
🔜
I am mildly irritated that you didn't slap some cringehunters or fuckin rags, zzzzz
doesn't work if you show tooltip, since obviously the tooltip has a different icon
but you could fake it by using the pinned version and adding a weak aura over top it showing the proper cooldown
no idea what you mean
Oh I must be smoking crack then
they havent done that shit since bfa
Mid ish?
worse than before but holy moly fury cranks st
this one’s cool because they swing https://www.wowhead.com/item=189898/fury-of-the-firelord
Does it though?
During CDs we are blasters, DHs are better but DHs are busted
Like, there are quite a few specs that do better st
We have better ST in AOE spec than a lot of specs
It definitely favours bigger pulls / longer pulls; small chain pulls aren't optimal
If you're regularly losing ST in dungeons, you're not playing right.
And what Mitsue said is right
fury very strong only 2pc
Besides DH, DH is cracked as fuck
Yea fury so far has been one of the specs with the lowest deficit in st to get aoe
Becuase the build works pretty much perfectly for both
Unlike ret pally
What dungeon is this
We are solid, leggo could push up into upper tier, esp if rogue/DH get nerfed
I honestly don't like what they did to ret in terms of rotation
based on background i'd say brh
It would be wild if Rogues and DH's (and possibly BM) aren't tuned, but stranger things have happend
The removal of wake of ashes reset was really bad
If you discount DH/Rogue/Hunter, Warrior is in a really good spot - very competitive, if not one of the top performers, without being miles ahead of everything else
^
problem is DH/Rogue/Hunter absolutely shit on everything else by such a wide margin, there's no contest
And hunters are starting to struggle to survive in high keys
But aug is also looking needed again in high keys
So post leggo, we'll still likely be behind DH/Rogue
IMO warrior will come up with legendary. And hunters are just dumb right now
Because mm is not very good
Hunter is insane DPS, great mobility, braindead spec
Legendary ain't bumping anyone up by 30% lol
BM is top dog
Mm is ass afaik
once the race is over we can actually get tuning
But I mean if some nerfs come through + leggo is solid, we'll be in a very good spot
Just not the top
don't need to be top
Agreed, I never want to be top
being top is a bad thing
Top is a 1 way ticket to the bottom
They bumped richochet from 55 to 75% and it's still not a great aoe spec
Don’t want it up bump that much because we’d get nerfed
just need to not have a 30% difference between top 3 and # 4
Mm i mean
Agreed my man
Ya but bm is the spec rn
I just geared my DH alt to 2pce and 470, dropping 250 overall already and it's BRAINDEAD EASY as long as you don't dash into mechanics
Kinda depressing
Dh is not easy to play, that's legion news
Right now it has a higher skill ceiling than most
I just said I'm playing 1, it's not hard lol
Maximizing dashes is the only skill ceiling homie
Well, realistically there are only 2 specs that are actually hard in my opinion, outlaw and especially arcane
Only that outlaw is fun, while arcane isn't
I typically only play warr tbh, 1st time really seriously gearing an alt, and the gap is depressing
But DH is quite fun at least
Indeed
Bro fistweaver is hardest 
I just don't like the nerf to shattered destiny and demonic, but aside that it's pretty great, i also don't like the tier set
Throw glaive and me are just not friends
never liked it, never will
Although i do expect some nerfs, at least ragefire/fel barrage
St is good too, but not too strong
Why is the dh throwing out his glaives
i mean, it makes sense, i just don't like it
No it doesnt cuz its physical smg
Because throw glaive historically never really synergized with anything
Until very recently, and even then i just rather use annihilation/death sweep
Eye beams etc
because blizzard couldnt just steal half of the abilties from warrior
i think it's giga worth if you can consistently go in to bosses with full stacks
it's like 10% dmg if you have full stacks
Throw glaive has historically been just, oh you do x damage, but then on top you do an extra x amount of damage, like, literally who cares
Remove any class with hunter in its name and game is gonna be more popular
True, kk, I think I disillusioned myself with the early keys and it sucking due to that, gonna run it for 24/25s tn. Thanks homie, also thanks for passing me bruh 😜
The set auto throws glaive
You don’t have to actively throw glaive basically ever if you play right
in case you forgot what it looks like
real
it's beautiful
Echo kills tm, @mossy fox gets leggo Wednesday surely
Wtf hacker
I have 2pc (t30) from the two quests at 450. Should I try to get more t30 pieces somehow? Any advice on fastest route?
I think you can catalyst them for free?
The bounty vendor
Yeah, i need the base item though
I heard that lego got leaked, it's going to buff single target abilities varying per class. For fury it buffs slam
Where you spend dream dust
Ban this guy
And slam crits give an absorb shield
I heard the legendary makes you say real
😦
lmao
bro i heard the lego takes you to character screen to roll dh
make slam the hammer of ancient effect in D4, and its gonna be good
Oh wait a sec... even when mythic fyrakk gets downed for the first time, they'll still have to do a questline before we see the actual weapon, eh?
Sure hope it isn't one of those "Collect 40 shards" quests
I got it today, Ragnaros dropped it
why not... I mean, its legendary, its an Axe
go kill fyrakk 40 times
Just because then we'll have to wait even longer to see what the damn thing even does
Inb4 u need shadowmourne in wotlk classic to start quest
question with new build in aoe opener we charge avatar reck do we hold 12 secs then odyns fury or we just pop all straigth away and it extends the dot ?
Ditch snake
for m+ obv
I think you reck and charge then odyn fury
I'm waiting for the incoming complaints "Why do you have to raid to get the legendary? Make it accessible to solo players too!"
for what?
maybe not
Tot
brother you OF before avatar
everbloom is fucked
but you dont hold OF 12 secs
big dif? 2 on use trins make me wanna kms
4 secs?
yeah 3-4 secs
you can cast it as long as ww buff is out or OF debuff ticks out in 1s
Avatar OF bleed debuff is like 1-2 secs

who is giga parse lord, need their opinion
what % of a parse should be slam dmg
this spell has me so fucked up, idk how/when should be using with other spell priorit
It’s low%
slam as last resort
I believe it's pretty much just your low(est?) prio
It’s mostly just filler and rage gen
ok reassuring
If you would have whirlwind last patch, you'd slam now
if you dont have anything to press = slam :bonk:
i just use slam if bt is off cooldown and i cant rampage
storm of swords has led me to believe it should be higher prio
literally like 1-2% of your damage in single target
i suppose its just QOL
They know we'd rage hard if there truly were gaps in the rotation
Some people just having a half sec now and then has gotten some rage
Which is understandable tbh
oof
kinda ye its like 3 % of dmg with crushing talent 
Sp is dumpster tier
why you compare YOU as CE raider with 476 ilvl and 4piece VS a normal / hc raider with nearly 15 ilvl less and no tier set ??? braindead post tbh
do people use the elemental lariat still?
Dunno that seems kinda sus for 576 ilvl id expect more ngl
(i think it mightve been a joke lincc)
true i am a gigachad astropumper bow down
Nah he seemed upset lol
(dont check my mythic logs they were boosted or did i play or something)
And noone talks bad to my chawie


astrodumper
not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?
it's happening again btw
Hahahaha
Bro I swear if I don’t get mythic gnarl wep tm I rage
Fuckin thanksgiving
Probably pays guildies to hold off on aoe and stuff for him
I raid 5 days straight now
But are you boosted
I’m drunk and depressed
But we don’t talk bout that
Can’t wait to spend 3 of them on a smolder getting treated like an sp in an @chrome plover key
idk maybe my guild has just been pity boosting me all this time
Oof
🐒🧑🦽
syi are you still rolling smf??
🤣
What do you think
5 days straight HUH
yes deddi
Does it now make sense to macro Avatar and Recklesness together?
@chrome plover
oo 2pc/2pc sims 4k higher is it worth tho
Yeah man, we normally do tues wed mon
I’m gona pull the daggers out
ill have to learn
nope
But 4 days early tier and we missed wed Thurs due to thanksgiving
ohh yeah ofc i guess
So now we raid Sunday through Thursday this 1 week, fuckin American holidays dude
we only raided 4 days week 1 now it's back to 3 chill days
Is blazefury medallion worth getting for us? Or is it too weak?
We went in and smashed 4-9 last week in 3 hrs and have afked mythic the entire 2nd week in so sad
have you simmed it
We’re back to 3 after this too
do yall macro reck with odyns fury?
I have reck wit roar
So I assume we’ll get to smolder by Wednesday
bet
And then be there awhile
yeah we have sunday on smolderon after a good week
But nothing I do makes sense 🤔
We hyped to die bb
been spamming atal all day but no trinky
Fight looks like a fucking BANGER though fr
wanted to run brand/rezan but might not happen
I did, but it might be that since I lack some gear it might be simming off*
holy moly
I've got a normal brand and I guess my other trinket is a crab or a sandglass idk
or branch trinket
I need crab on my DH I guess
I have sandglass, ocean one, brand and rezans now all 483
So I got some nice options
I have every m+ trinket apart from rezan i think...
damn bruh ive done so many dungeons and just get bracers
Ag right fuuuckkkk
Was gonna say we could easily smash 20 atals in 20 and I can trade it, RIP
yeah I've just been spamming 17-19s solo all day
it's aight
they are all sub-20 mins and I get instantly invited
but I saw 3 trinkets in a row earlier to other people
that kinda hurt
🙏
what are consider to be bis trinkets for raid?
and what for m+?
brand/rezan slams single target
augury/ocean slam m+

ty
Is tott overtuned or what someone told me it is
crab is also really good in keys though, it has like 35-40% uptime
and sandglass i guess, but havent used it yet myself
no flightstones
I’m gonna grab a crab just to try
Timer feels kinda tight, I wouldn’t call it overtuned imo
Sandglass is meh for keys, like it’s solid but we don’t need the haste
Gonna pull a crit and run brand
yeah haste is kinda in the dirt
I’ve been using it
The flame trinket that gives like 6k strength is great for keys every 3 mins lul
I ran brand in the 20 wm i just did and it felt good
Swapped last key, big up
Wowza
crab and brand
🦀 🔥
I feel like I just equip random trinkets though atm
why is fury so shitty
We’re trying to convince our one guy to roll aug
It’s not?
Fury is not shitty, hit BT more
It's not
release anda
is the shitty in the room with us now?
is it because im 2 set only
yes
Anda somehow bypasses me on DPS logs even when he alts it, Andaaug is a robbery of beautiful warrior play
no set lower rogue deals more damage then me 😣
fuck off
That bad eh
if the people i buff wouldn't int my damage on fucking gcd
it wouldn't be that bad
I was going for an inspirational screenshot to convince our Druid…lol
But it happens
Yeah I couldn’t gear an aug purely because it’s so based on others, so mid keys would be even more painful
No way to soft carry, if they suck youre fucked
It's easy, just do your own thing and ignore others
True I suppose
Idk it would just feel so frustrating, for me anyway
DH has been a blast though, super busted, so much leech, immunity, blasty blast
Ninja backflips into front flip stabs
The easiest soft carry actually
Interesting, I’ve never played one so I guess that was just my take from a distance
anyone knows (roughly) how much weaker the avatar induced odyns fury dot is compared to the actual one?
like what is the "reduced effectiveness" of titans torment
it doesnt reduce the effect of the OF as far as i know
unfortunate..
guys whats the best crafted for fury rn
Double SF or vers bracers and SF cloak
Double SF best ST, vers bracer option for aoe and m+ and they’re very close, I personally prefer having the extra vers
Why is that unfortunate
because i am trying to justify simplyfying the opener a bit by macroing Reck+Avatar and using it before Odyns fury instead Reck > OF > Avatar after 4 secs. If the avatar OF dot was actually reduced, overwriting it directly wouldnt be that big of a loss
in Raids it probaly does not matter, but in M+ ...
You reck on pull before charge so it matters quite a bit
You’d basically whiff the OF from avatar
well, you would then Reck after charge on targwt
You also want to cast OF first to put it on cooldown
That would be awful, your OF wouldn’t be under enrage. The whole point is to to be enraged
Your way also overwrites dancing blades
not with titanic rage, and without i woudl rampage first ofc
so "my" M+ opener would be Charge > Reck+Avatar > OF > Roar
our opener is already simple enough, why do you wish to simplify it further
i am a simple mind
Button press hard me go brrrr
Do you have 60 dollars? Sounds like you want to play Bm hunter
Mash 3 buttons and top dps
Does anyone have a tracker WA for the new tier
Wait this is for ST or aoe
as if pressing many buttons would be something great 😄
There’s one on wago
What are you trying to track
the remaining bloodthirsts
The button glows unless your Ui overwrites it
found it thanks
yeah action bars are not visible on my ui
Has anyone summed out smf in bus gear with two fyrakk axes?
Pretty sure it’s unique
Rip
I know it’s still not close was just wondering if the proc made a diff because it’s so strong
its certainly better than ever, but it doesn't get leggo buff this patch
so your days playing it would hopefully be limited anyway
Can always sim it in gear compare
The gap was close to 7-9% without leggo last I checked and no weapon proc short og gavel 2.0 would close that up
I have 2 T31 pieces and 2 T30 pieces. Which spec would you guys recommend? Should I stick to 4p T30 till I get my 4p T31?
2+2 is bad even for arms? Someone was saying that it was decent in this discord I vaguely remember
hey guys, recently got my 4p, is it normal to overcap on rage cause i dont wanna waste a BB buff? especially in Cds and Aoe
I waited to switch from T30 to T31 until I had 4p t31
Idk 2-2 feels fine to me
Pretty sure the apl prios execute but I haven’t checked recently
I’m almost positive bb>execute
That being said you still need rage for ramp
It feels like I’m able to ramp-bb-ex-ramp most of the time
Yeah most of the time I need to hit execute anyway
I’m not sure what the 100% correct answer is if execute would overcap you
for fury opener how big of a deal is it to reckless - charge- odyn versus charge- ava/reck macro?
It’s a bit bigger if you’re playing spear since avatar gives you an off gcd OF in the EM window
Yeah def don’t avatar before your charge
you're burning so much cd why would you do that
If you’re able to ramp-bb-ramp-bb it’s better
In execute range I’m sure
Our execute ability isn’t that good
i also charge > reck/avatar .. just make sure to not overwrite the OF debff on target aka wait 4 seconds
You shouldn’t do that though
in M+ its actually after you spent the 4 WW charges on Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB
You’re missing at least 7.5 seconds of cdr
yeah i was just clarifying. ive been trying to get used to reck charge odyn ramp bb ramp bb odyn
Ramp before odyn
okie
reck into charge gives you instantly enough to ramp, which enrages you to OF into bb
no?
Yes exactly
His question wasn’t really whether you should do it, but how much does it matter. And you’re not going to cast all 3 bloodthirsts if you Ava first before hitting OF
yea so if i understand it correctly. do we want the odyn fury 4 second dot to fall off before ava. or hit ava when dot is still active?
Ideally you wait for 1 second or less. It doesn’t have to completely fall off
4 seconds then avatar. The bleed is 5 seconds but pandemics to refresh
it realistically doesn't matter in a 5min bossfight, yet there is literally no upside to not do it
ok so i ususally see 0 or 1 on the debuff and i send ava or try to
holy shit i cant time everbloom
this is insane
how are people struggling with this so much
Reck, charge, Avatar does not work for me.. it feels clunky AF
my combat opener is charge
What? Isn’t EB like mid difficulty
that feels "right"
it's not difficult sure
EB with bursting is a bit rough this week
but no one interrupts on 2nd boss
Macro rek and charge
and on last boss no one saves cd for add
but i surely do not want to Reck on every charge if available
personally i bet i can find an opener that feels good to me and sacrice 0,005% dps for it
but to each their own
is there a WA for when to cast avatar after odyns? I'm casting avatar as i see my character visibly shrink in size from the podyns avatar but not sure if thats the correct timing or not
why are you using avatar after charge
that's your first issue
where is that an issue, avatar casts OF so i need to do it after charge
You should ramp before casting Of weather it’s from Ava or the actual spell
that's close enough
you cast OF first
so optimally reck-charge-ramp-OF-bb-ramp-bb-ramp- ava-tr?
should use TR sooner
What is TR?
Thunderous roar
i just have recklessness bounf to my OF key
This^
do we have to do anything special with dancing blades?
I don't think we play around it that much when we have odyns and avatar up
my other thing is i have bound my trinkets to it too, as i'm used to having a fire everything pre-button but have had to take avatar off it
so my odyns fury macro is recklessness, trinket, trinket, odyn's
i dont know where to send spear if we run spear. i also dont really know what fights we wanna run spear versus TR
still using vial of animated blood
in M+, when i charge in and then i pop Reck/avatar (w titans torment) i instantly rage cap there is no need for a Rampage. Instead i go TR, Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB, OF, Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB...
that just works
and the only problem with that is that you lose a few secs OF CD
just press OF first..?
what in the world
Hello guys, i was wondering if i have to change some items from my items.I wanted to farm the ring with mastery haste.Are my stats good or should i change 1 ring from crit haste to mastery haste? What u guys think?
Run driptimizer
With dungeons or raid items?
I’m a fan of dancing blade even in m+
if runnign spear. do i just spear after OF?
Definantly for tyrannical weeks its nice
With whatever ring you’re trying to farm
DB that is
Idk even in fort weeks
am I blind or is that TC bound as fury
Those prio targets die that much faster
I just told you to use OF first
Not avatar
ok then you lose another 4 secs of 30% increased autoattack speed every 1.5min at best.. that does not matter
thats what i do, i used to do avatar first but given the window after OF with its avatar its better to do OF into spear and by the time it wears off you can then press avatar again
I love giving up free damage
its a bit clunky though because avatar and spears CDs match up perfectly
so instinct is to have both on one button
He said he hates the opener so he’s wondering how much he loses
just play arms and ww spam
flashing back to fury in WoD where whirlwind was our spam filler
Maybe he won’t like pressing ss
didnt play in wod bro...
it was a weird time
My guild is raiding normal on Monday. I’m on a boosted lvl 70 (so min 424 gear) with t31 shoulder (lfr) and t30 chest and legs (quest 450s).
I have a few hours to play tomorrow, what should I do to prep gear-wise?
Thanks!
im so sorry
oof
jesus was it dead
Probably m+ spam
Focus on weps and trinks
Those give the biggest boost for a single piece
Do I change my talents on 2pc or 4pc tier set?
2pc
in AOE if BT and Rampage are unavailable do we just send WW even if have WW stacks?
did anyoner sym lariat?
I'm sure someone simmed Lariat at some point
ye i forgot to mention slam and ww are both up
But that's largely irrelevant since you'll need to sim it for yourself
Lariat also kinda blows until you get sockets
currently in my aoe build lariat and wrists sim higher than wrists and shadowflame
but its all variable
would slam
Hekili decent for learning the new rota once you get 2p?
I got the t30 rota deep in my brain
New rotation is easy
Bb over everything
Rampage when you dont have bb
Then ex>bt>slam>ww
How does the opener change?
St or aoe
Ye
T31 is exactly what hekili likes
Yeah I remember hekili played t30 pretty much perfectly as well
and I frequently orange parsed without it, just tried turning it on a couple times and it was spot on
I'm super confused. I picked up a +7 ilvl offhand and the raidbots sim is saying it's identical to my current offhand. Am I missing something here?
better stats for u atm 
not over on any of my secondaries, i'd think the higher stats would be worth
but alright
ty
oh the things I'd do for a ravencrest's
The things I’d do for anything over a 463
👨🦼
Don't worry Echo kills Fyrakk tomorrow and then everyone is going to be mailed the item to start the Fyralath quest.
No ruse.
Its a lie
That would be nutty
Doubt it tho
That’s not true I read in the leak you just get mailed the axe itself
BB active this talent?
yes
wasnt that bugged?
consumes on crit tho 
oh rip
oh is it bugged? it's really bad in aoe tho since you almost always crit one of the targets you cleave to
you dont get multiple stacks
then its worthless
on cleave
ye it's a st only talent
does fury become better then arms in raid at 4 set?
why is signet simming so shit for me I thought it was bis no?
or is like single target only kinda thing
its bis when combined with all bis gear
depends on the boss
ah with new set and shit
i mean, the "bislist" is simmed with all the bis, so yeah
but atm, i don't think you're geared full 489 bis everywhere, so your sims will tell u differents value, bcus of your actual stats etc :p
just topgear urself / do some raid/ dung droptimizer and figure out 😄
how hard is fury warrior to play in raid in s3 ?
new rotation is pretty easy
Yeah im deffo not xD I just got spores from a 17 EB and its simming nice might just replace signet for a while then
harder than s2 but still pretty easy
esp during blust 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2
Alright I have another high quality, intelligent question to definitely not be made fun of for
why tf isn't sophics enchat just always bis
+900 primary seems way, way better than +1300 secondary
because the robot says it isnt ¯_(ツ)_/¯

you can try to find reasons and all that, but in the end it's just a math question and a program can answer that way more accurately
stop think, use robot, trust robot

stop think, trust hivemind, trust sim
If your sims are like mine and show them all within .2% just use the one you want too lol
when things are close i always prefer the one that gives haste because faster rotation gives more happy chemical
Gotta resim everytime you enchant, then keep replacing it over and over
that and gems
24s real hard without tier
what do you mean not an option?
But alright, licking the feet of bot from hereon out
just that more haste isn't gonna start having diminishing returns haa
haha
yeah but that doesnt mean anything
if a sim says haste is better you go over the DR
sim is mad at me for having 2.8k mastery
Silm is getting angry D: oh no, run!
as it turns out the DR limits don't actually matter that much when stat good
hows your experimentation going so far crit
For big aoe weeks will we ever run ravager?
no
Post 4 set
im not getting to experiment much tbh, been playing big keys and fury tankyness is too good to pass up
without AM ravager loses a lot of value
dancing blades feels so good in aoe
ive been having to dstance alot post at 23s so far
I like it over Titanic rage
and you have to give up your 2 gcd bt cooldown for it
as arms at least
Fury is def a vibe tho. 10% passive DR, Dstance, and self healing
all p juiced
dont forget to spec into second wind this week and watch your team die to 7 stacks of bursting rolling into 8 while you're chilling
second wind goated
I am already chillin'
fear
yeah fear does kinda blow esp with vdh
you cant drop pain and gain
they group everything so tight you cant get the interrupt off decently
i do sometimes wish i had fear but oh well, it's only during bursting week
eh not really the reason you dont take fear
Go improved fear, for that AoE knockdown 
I miss percing howl
but yeah nothing else you can really drop
it's not a knockdown it's a knockback
theres also
they fly away? neato
ever try menace?
it seems cool
never tried it in keys though
not so great in practice
main target immune to fear = nothing gets knocked
cant knock without a target either so it's just awkward to use
tried it in sanguine weeks in s2 and realised it wasnt worth it
would fear break the dogs focus on you in Tides?
Tried to bring something, eh?
dont think so, not seen any ccs break the dog fixate
yeah they just keep focusing you
tbh best way to deal with dogs is kill them before they kill you, blow all cds
or whoever for the duration
Oh that’s tough, been loving Aug knock and it does not work this way
I just shadowmeld and tell myself that kept me alive, not my silly HPS as Fury Warr
oo what addon is that
narcissus
yo wtf is this trinket this is fall's last boss healer damage
this is his damage on manifested timeways
you get the drops you deserve
you deserve them! If you get them
What is the bug?
guys which are the best trinkets for us?
Augury and brand for the rest just check wowhead under gear
cant wait for fated when we get an ilvl 520 anvil that does 20 million damage because of annihilator
cant wait until we dont play annihilator
not how anvil works 
tell that to pallydins
best trinkets for m+?
looks like echo finally fell asleep
might of the ocean, augury, mirror, crab might be okay too
i got a might and a sandglass right now
butcher's block looking interesting too
especially since you dont really get value from bloodcraze on aoe
thanks and sorry for ask again but which one is augury?
it's simming ahead of sandglass on aoe for me and that's with like 34% base crit
true i forgot about that trinket
i need to fix some basic changes to the aoe apl so it at least casts bloodbath as top prio 
i dont think i have it in me to look at dungeon slice tho
Got any thoughts on the "unstable frostfire belt"? Seems to sim on me over other crafted items
wait nvm i might be drunk
are you taking into account that it takes an embellishment slot
Yeah might be
Seems quite odd tbh, in the long run going for the wristguards is prob the better option?
the main advantage of wrists is that it has value on aoe
even if it may be slightly worse on st
yes
the margin is so little i guess i'll go with the wristguards
wait what am i thinking when i can just go with shadowflame on the molten vambraces
is it ok to have 2 shadowflames?
yeah sure
that makes it clear then
is 2p worth changing the build for?
other thing to consider is idk if that sim gives full vers value to the bracers
on top of aoe value
compared to the st of shadowflamex2
FINALLY
a lot of the top m+ score guys seem to have the allied wristguards though
hmm
oh boy... i need a weapon asap too
gz!
it's smol st increase vs smol aoe increase and some survivability
Less damage intake good
YOU DESERVE
it only took to time an 18 
Name of addon?
narcissus
ty
np
question guys has anyones game been randomly freezing mid combate
it started this season
idk why its happening
i heard its an nvidia thing
got the new tier 2 set bonus n last tier 2 set ..any link to talent tree ?? im searching
Wowhead
Does tabbing out fix it? because yes
we don't know yet
So it jet have to be added to the game
Some times yea
We assuming we won’t get any info until after rwf ends
👨🦼
so in few days probably bcs rwf is close to an end
Go tell liquid to git gud
yo @olive wraith
Heroic?
nope doing normal on an alt, 440 ilvl alt getting big gains lol
weak auras
Auras very weak
Me strong
Nah I have normal but I feel like hourglass is better
Might roll with butcher block too
Undecided atm
BB does have the passive buff
cute yall dont think theres' a hidden mythic phase
ya I heard they datamined that Cho'gall jumps down from the rafters and finishes him off at 5%
then you have to kill him
and then illidan joins
nah u just get this
ooh
liquid just beat Echo's best
liquid 5.7%
if they had 3 arms warriors it would of been dead
all of the 2H str users putting our energy into a spirit bomb so we can figure out what we have to go through for Firemourne
go go gadget bshout
details must be bugged
im pretty sure they have more than 2 warriors
RWF comp happened
@spice vine what happened to you
he fell off

gigachad
secret phase inc
man i really fuckin hope so tbhj
its not dying tonight
if they dont do a hidden phase thats the first xpac since cata to not have 1, right?
yeah
feels giga unlikely theres a hidden phase tho which is big sadge
fyrak harder than most last expansion bosses
kinda feels like there isn't I guess but who knows
oh yeah just a random 4% hp nerf while they were at 19% boss hp 
surely no secret phase

did blizzard nerf fyrakk?
i just got back from travleing for thanksgiving and left b4 they killed t swift so ive missed a lot
they nerfed his HP earlier today
ello everyone 🙂 sorry if this is asked a lot but I can't see it readily here - if this is my first toon in Dragonflight, no previous tier etc. fresh 70 & just finished the Emerald Dream questline, which of the 6 talent builds would I be best to run from Wowhead?
immediately after echo had a 19% wipe
oh thinkge
max slipping ion a 20 under the table
at the same time tho i feel like it's giga stupid for liquid to stay up if there's a secret phase
and i feel like theyd have a good idea of secret phase
i mean if they get to the secret phase streams are going off for sure
yeah but what i mean is they're staying up past their normal bedtime rn arent they?
how long from now is that?
3.5 hrs
damn im not staying up that long




