#fury

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olive wraith
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Oh so you don’t need help then clueless

urban drum
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Skyhold, should I use curio and follow BIS list for tier piece selection or whatever sims highest now, helm is massive but not chosen for bis list suggested tier

slow veldt
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Anyone know for sure if the tier piece for keystone master, PvP version, gets same iLVL after upgrade as PvE? It has same upgrade track (hero)

olive wraith
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I’m pretty sure it’s hero track

proud igloo
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@olive wraith ty my guy

slow veldt
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It is hero

chrome plover
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take the upgrade now

slow veldt
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but 6/6 hero Pvp = same as Pve 6/6 hero right?

olive wraith
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Oh wait idk

past pivot
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Stats are the same iirc but it scales in pvp. PVE chest doesn't. Might be other differences when you read the tooltips

slow veldt
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Yeah i know that different, i ment ilvl difference on 6/6

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I think it should be the same, so on 6/6 it would only be PvP scale diff

ornate gust
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How can I get that from details?

olive wraith
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Last season pvp scale didn’t change when you upgraded

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I think it’s the same this season. Just the pve ilvl upgrades

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Like the pvp set changed to 450 in pvp but the pve ilvl was like 418 or something

warm ginkgo
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Btw what is the best embelishment right now for raid ? The guide suggests 2 shadowflame but the subcreation shows people running vers wrist on both raid and m +

sullen tendon
olive wraith
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Single target double patch sims higher

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People are doing allied wrists cause it’s good for aoe. Plus added bonus for giving damage reduction

eager wraith
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Finished my m+ vault, still havent seen a single weapon drop xD champion/Veteran gang for life

warm ginkgo
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I guess shadowflame is better then since tindral fyrakk is mostly single target

olive wraith
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Only 8 runs?

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Well don’t forget you get survivability from allied

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You don’t gain value on a sum for taking less damage

hazy jacinth
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Our new 4set turned Fury's pacing into shit 😒

warm ginkgo
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I try to convince myself that shadowflame is better because i dont even have wrist crafted for seasn 1 xD

hazy jacinth
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and we need an aoe buff hard

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for M+

hazy jacinth
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it has so much downtime

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comapred to before

eager wraith
sullen tendon
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lol what

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how is m+ damage bad?

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the new 4 set is the 4 set from last tier on crack

eager wraith
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he's right we're terrible

warm ginkgo
olive wraith
sullen tendon
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instead of stacking blood thirsts you just get 3 of them for free at a higher power

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and all your damamge is in one burst instead of spread out

tawny olive
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why does wowhead say fyrakk weapon is a good alternative? is it a SMF build or? 🙂

tawny olive
noble elm
chrome plover
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but as soon as you get any 2h at a close ilvl

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2h wins

olive wraith
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Rarely have down time

eager wraith
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smf doesnt even have any cool transmogs

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2h is the way

tawny olive
tardy lark
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Plenty of cool 1hs

eager wraith
tardy lark
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They should just make smf a transmog thing

tardy lark
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If that was you posting pics a couple of days ago

eager wraith
hazy jacinth
sullen tendon
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exaplin

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exaplin

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explain

hazy jacinth
eager wraith
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is fyrakk dead yet? i wana get my axe

slow veldt
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no, 10%

hazy jacinth
sullen tendon
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you arent using slam

eager wraith
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slam? you mean raging blow junior?

sullen tendon
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sorry

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crushing blow

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because i cant find the raging blow icon

olive wraith
hazy jacinth
hazy jacinth
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we excel a bit in ST , but overall aoe is very week from the top specs

noble elm
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I love how everyone only ever links brh or throne

tardy lark
cloud shale
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YO did they change Foul Bolt on last boss ToT so it's not reflectable??

sullen tendon
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it is

young swan
sullen tendon
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i reflected it last night while tanking

warm ginkgo
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OHHH

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rofl k so the choice is 2 shadowflame or 1 and 1 vers wrist

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k thanks

sullen tendon
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i use haste pants

warm ginkgo
eager wraith
noble elm
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Everyone always links throne and brh where you can mash cds and burst during the buff phase to throw off damage. I wanna see shots of warriors smashing fuckin everbloom

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Who’s got a 200+ everbloom for me

eager wraith
young swan
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i had a 200k dht

eager wraith
young swan
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didnt ss tho

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also everbloom has 2 different bosses with damage amps lmfao

olive wraith
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My b I wasn’t clear on the cloak. Forgot sporecloak was a thing clueless

noble elm
chrome plover
cloud shale
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can i send yt link here? with foul bolt last night clearly going trhrough reflect? Im curious if im not seeing something there since i don't know how bugged reflect is

eager wraith
young swan
noble elm
eager wraith
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my key still hasnt turned into murozond, atal, tot.. 😢

keen kindle
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I just got my first MS crit over a mill in BRH

sullen tendon
chrome plover
cloud shale
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how was it too late its a bolt and it clearly was on

eager wraith
cloud shale
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does it need to be on before casts finishes?

chrome plover
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cast just ended and you still didnt reflect

chrome plover
cloud shale
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I see i thought it needs to be before animation lands

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thank you all

eager wraith
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this isnt classic this is retail u cant vanish a coil thats already coming for u etc

cloud shale
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well for most of the bolts you actually can reflect while its mid-air

chrome plover
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no you cant

cloud shale
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maybe placebo thinking from me

chrome plover
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you have to press it during the cast

cloud shale
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thank you then

eager wraith
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u legit have to press it before it finished for all spells

cloud shale
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I was under the impression all the time that its about the animation

eager wraith
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nah it was long ago

cloud shale
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3k 1st season : S

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but im a dumbass tho i only raid

eager wraith
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for example in classic u can reflect late with reflector trinket and it gets bounced. no idea when it change in retail but many years ago

desert kite
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Average blizzshart

eager wraith
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Bro i swear

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i will end season 3 with veteran/champion weapons

desert kite
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Why so, bad luck?

eager wraith
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ye like insane bad luck

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i got ring 4 times in brh

desert kite
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Ah excellent, can't use emojis from other servers cause why the fuck should you be able to, but yeah 😂

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For me it's the opposite, 9 times out of 10 I get jack shit

eager wraith
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its good for my pugs i keep having to trade them my shit

desert kite
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Most of the shit I get is a result of me having to beg like fucking oliver twist or some shit, when someone gets something I need

tardy lark
sudden tusk
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it has to snapshot the relect

cloud shale
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ye those folks above told me, my understanding of the spell was incorrect

stoic orbit
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Is everyone swapping to fury now? Arms was the hype week 1, but noticed most high end warriors went fury

iron portal
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Its always fury time

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Also does help prob that Revvez playing fury on prog

tardy lark
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The tier set is REALLY good for fury single target. Arms got some giant number buffs going into the patch, so until 4p acquisition, arms was ahead by a decent amount

stoic orbit
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Didn’t think the fury 4set was that much better

iron portal
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Fury stronk

clever path
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no secret mythic phase

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cmon blizz

iron portal
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yet

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INB4 at 5%

clever path
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🔜

desert kite
# iron portal

I am mildly irritated that you didn't slap some cringehunters or fuckin rags, zzzzz

edgy widget
# eager wraith

doesn't work if you show tooltip, since obviously the tooltip has a different icon

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but you could fake it by using the pinned version and adding a weak aura over top it showing the proper cooldown

desert kite
sullen tendon
heavy sparrow
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How's fury aoe with the set?

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Losing ravager seems like a pretty big effin deal

noble elm
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It’s mid-ish

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Great burst aoe

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Odyns cdr helps prop up m+ overall

restive peak
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Mid ish?

summer quail
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worse than before but holy moly fury cranks st

balmy shore
heavy sparrow
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Does it though?

restive peak
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During CDs we are blasters, DHs are better but DHs are busted

heavy sparrow
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Like, there are quite a few specs that do better st

restive peak
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We have better ST in AOE spec than a lot of specs

snow edge
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It definitely favours bigger pulls / longer pulls; small chain pulls aren't optimal

heavy sparrow
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Oh i see

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What you mean

restive peak
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If you're regularly losing ST in dungeons, you're not playing right.

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And what Mitsue said is right

astral path
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fury very strong only 2pc

restive peak
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Besides DH, DH is cracked as fuck

heavy sparrow
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Yea fury so far has been one of the specs with the lowest deficit in st to get aoe

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Becuase the build works pretty much perfectly for both

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Unlike ret pally

noble elm
restive peak
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We are solid, leggo could push up into upper tier, esp if rogue/DH get nerfed

heavy sparrow
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I honestly don't like what they did to ret in terms of rotation

summer quail
snow edge
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It would be wild if Rogues and DH's (and possibly BM) aren't tuned, but stranger things have happend

heavy sparrow
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The removal of wake of ashes reset was really bad

edgy widget
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If you discount DH/Rogue/Hunter, Warrior is in a really good spot - very competitive, if not one of the top performers, without being miles ahead of everything else

restive peak
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^

edgy widget
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problem is DH/Rogue/Hunter absolutely shit on everything else by such a wide margin, there's no contest

restive peak
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And hunters are starting to struggle to survive in high keys

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But aug is also looking needed again in high keys

heavy sparrow
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Wtf happened with hunter?

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You mean bm specifically right?

restive peak
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So post leggo, we'll still likely be behind DH/Rogue

noble elm
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IMO warrior will come up with legendary. And hunters are just dumb right now

heavy sparrow
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Because mm is not very good

restive peak
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Hunter is insane DPS, great mobility, braindead spec

edgy widget
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Legendary ain't bumping anyone up by 30% lol

olive wraith
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BM is top dog

restive peak
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But they legit die sometimes

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No no, ofc not

olive wraith
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Mm is ass afaik

sudden tusk
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once the race is over we can actually get tuning

restive peak
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But I mean if some nerfs come through + leggo is solid, we'll be in a very good spot

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Just not the top

edgy widget
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don't need to be top

restive peak
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Agreed, I never want to be top

sudden tusk
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being top is a bad thing

restive peak
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Top is a 1 way ticket to the bottom

heavy sparrow
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They bumped richochet from 55 to 75% and it's still not a great aoe spec

noble elm
edgy widget
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just need to not have a 30% difference between top 3 and # 4

heavy sparrow
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Mm i mean

restive peak
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Agreed my man

heavy sparrow
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With the set it should be decent i guess

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Since volley is a pretty big deal in aoe

olive wraith
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Ya but bm is the spec rn

restive peak
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I just geared my DH alt to 2pce and 470, dropping 250 overall already and it's BRAINDEAD EASY as long as you don't dash into mechanics

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Kinda depressing

heavy sparrow
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Dh is not easy to play, that's legion news

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Right now it has a higher skill ceiling than most

restive peak
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I just said I'm playing 1, it's not hard lol

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Maximizing dashes is the only skill ceiling homie

heavy sparrow
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Well, realistically there are only 2 specs that are actually hard in my opinion, outlaw and especially arcane

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Only that outlaw is fun, while arcane isn't

restive peak
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I typically only play warr tbh, 1st time really seriously gearing an alt, and the gap is depressing

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But DH is quite fun at least

heavy sparrow
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Indeed

eager wraith
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Bro fistweaver is hardest keks

heavy sparrow
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I just don't like the nerf to shattered destiny and demonic, but aside that it's pretty great, i also don't like the tier set

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Throw glaive and me are just not friends

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never liked it, never will

eager wraith
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Avengers shield makes sense

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Throw glaive does not

heavy sparrow
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Although i do expect some nerfs, at least ragefire/fel barrage

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St is good too, but not too strong

eager wraith
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Why is the dh throwing out his glaives

heavy sparrow
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i mean, it makes sense, i just don't like it

eager wraith
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No it doesnt cuz its physical smg

heavy sparrow
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Because throw glaive historically never really synergized with anything

eager wraith
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So its not fel magic

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They have infinite glaives

heavy sparrow
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Until very recently, and even then i just rather use annihilation/death sweep

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Eye beams etc

sullen tendon
mossy fox
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i think it's giga worth if you can consistently go in to bosses with full stacks

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it's like 10% dmg if you have full stacks

heavy sparrow
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Throw glaive has historically been just, oh you do x damage, but then on top you do an extra x amount of damage, like, literally who cares

eager wraith
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Remove any class with hunter in its name and game is gonna be more popular

restive peak
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The set auto throws glaive

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You don’t have to actively throw glaive basically ever if you play right

twilit hinge
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in case you forgot what it looks like

restive peak
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We can’t wait

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Liquid kills tn, I get leggo Tuesday surely

twilit hinge
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it's beautiful

restive peak
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Echo kills tm, @mossy fox gets leggo Wednesday surely

eager wraith
light stump
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I have 2pc (t30) from the two quests at 450. Should I try to get more t30 pieces somehow? Any advice on fastest route?

noble elm
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I think you can catalyst them for free?

olive wraith
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The bounty vendor

light stump
olive wraith
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And I think time rifts

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Emerald bounty or whatever it’s called

dim spindle
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I heard that lego got leaked, it's going to buff single target abilities varying per class. For fury it buffs slam

olive wraith
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Where you spend dream dust

dim spindle
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And slam crits give an absorb shield

olive wraith
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I heard the legendary makes you say real

dim spindle
twilit hinge
plucky ice
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bro i heard the lego takes you to character screen to roll dh

twilit hinge
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make slam the hammer of ancient effect in D4, and its gonna be good

dim spindle
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Oh wait a sec... even when mythic fyrakk gets downed for the first time, they'll still have to do a questline before we see the actual weapon, eh?

twilit hinge
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you slam the target, dealing aoe damage to surroundings

dim spindle
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Sure hope it isn't one of those "Collect 40 shards" quests

eager wraith
twilit hinge
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go kill fyrakk 40 times

dim spindle
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Just because then we'll have to wait even longer to see what the damn thing even does

eager wraith
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Inb4 u need shadowmourne in wotlk classic to start quest

winged tartan
lusty gust
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question with new build in aoe opener we charge avatar reck do we hold 12 secs then odyns fury or we just pop all straigth away and it extends the dot ?

winged tartan
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those are my trinkets rn

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is any from m+ better?

eager wraith
winged tartan
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for m+ obv

twilit hinge
dim spindle
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I'm waiting for the incoming complaints "Why do you have to raid to get the legendary? Make it accessible to solo players too!"

winged tartan
twilit hinge
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maybe not

eager wraith
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Tot

plucky ice
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brother you OF before avatar

spare otter
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everbloom is fucked

twilit hinge
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but you dont hold OF 12 secs

dim spindle
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hold it for 3 secs I think

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For the OF buff

winged tartan
dim spindle
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4 secs?

twilit hinge
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yeah 3-4 secs

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you can cast it as long as ww buff is out or OF debuff ticks out in 1s

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Avatar OF bleed debuff is like 1-2 secs

dim spindle
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HODL

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For moon parses

plucky ice
urban drum
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who is giga parse lord, need their opinion

dim spindle
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I got #2 world on heroic ultraxion as prot warrior once

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What can I do for ya?

urban drum
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what % of a parse should be slam dmg

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this spell has me so fucked up, idk how/when should be using with other spell priorit

olive wraith
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It’s low%

winged tartan
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slam as last resort

dim spindle
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I believe it's pretty much just your low(est?) prio

olive wraith
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It’s mostly just filler and rage gen

urban drum
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ok reassuring

dim spindle
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If you would have whirlwind last patch, you'd slam now

winged tartan
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if you dont have anything to press = slam :bonk:

sullen tendon
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i just use slam if bt is off cooldown and i cant rampage

urban drum
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storm of swords has led me to believe it should be higher prio

chrome plover
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literally like 1-2% of your damage in single target

urban drum
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i suppose its just QOL

dim spindle
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They know we'd rage hard if there truly were gaps in the rotation

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Some people just having a half sec now and then has gotten some rage

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Which is understandable tbh

chrome plover
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damn shadow priest is really down bad huh

urban drum
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oof

pulsar prawn
restive peak
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Sp is dumpster tier

pulsar prawn
# chrome plover

why you compare YOU as CE raider with 476 ilvl and 4piece VS a normal / hc raider with nearly 15 ilvl less and no tier set ??? braindead post tbh

nimble ingot
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do people use the elemental lariat still?

restive peak
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He’s showing the SP, not bragging about his 190k bro lol

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Jesus

noble elm
chrome plover
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(i think it mightve been a joke lincc)

chrome plover
restive peak
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Nah he seemed upset lol

chrome plover
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(dont check my mythic logs they were boosted or did i play or something)

restive peak
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And noone talks bad to my chawie

chrome plover
restive peak
dim spindle
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astrodumper

wild mural
restive peak
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Hahahaha

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Bro I swear if I don’t get mythic gnarl wep tm I rage

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Fuckin thanksgiving

dim spindle
restive peak
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I raid 5 days straight now

wild mural
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I’m drunk and depressed

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But we don’t talk bout that

restive peak
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Can’t wait to spend 3 of them on a smolder getting treated like an sp in an @chrome plover key

chrome plover
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idk maybe my guild has just been pity boosting me all this time

wild mural
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Oof

desert kite
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🐒🧑‍🦽

fluid cedar
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syi are you still rolling smf??

chrome plover
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🤣

wild mural
chrome plover
fluid cedar
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yes deddi

mild flicker
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Does it now make sense to macro Avatar and Recklesness together?

wild mural
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@chrome plover

fluid cedar
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oo 2pc/2pc sims 4k higher is it worth tho

restive peak
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Yeah man, we normally do tues wed mon

wild mural
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I’m gona pull the daggers out

fluid cedar
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ill have to learn

restive peak
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But 4 days early tier and we missed wed Thurs due to thanksgiving

chrome plover
restive peak
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So now we raid Sunday through Thursday this 1 week, fuckin American holidays dude

chrome plover
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we only raided 4 days week 1 now it's back to 3 chill days

merry gust
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Is blazefury medallion worth getting for us? Or is it too weak?

restive peak
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We went in and smashed 4-9 last week in 3 hrs and have afked mythic the entire 2nd week in so sad

warm crag
restive peak
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We’re back to 3 after this too

fluid cedar
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do yall macro reck with odyns fury?

wild mural
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I have reck wit roar

restive peak
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So I assume we’ll get to smolder by Wednesday

fluid cedar
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bet

restive peak
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And then be there awhile

wild mural
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I should add me trinky onto my macro

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It makes more sense than Ava

chrome plover
wild mural
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But nothing I do makes sense 🤔

restive peak
chrome plover
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been spamming atal all day but no trinky

restive peak
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Fight looks like a fucking BANGER though fr

chrome plover
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wanted to run brand/rezan but might not happen

restive peak
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I got blessed early, I have mythic track rezans and 483 heroic brand

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So I’m ready

merry gust
restive peak
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Yeah dude

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First vault first item rezans

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We gamin

chrome plover
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I've got a normal brand and I guess my other trinket is a crab or a sandglass idk

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or branch trinket

restive peak
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I need crab on my DH I guess

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I have sandglass, ocean one, brand and rezans now all 483

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So I got some nice options

chrome plover
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I have every m+ trinket apart from rezan i think...

fluid cedar
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damn bruh ive done so many dungeons and just get bracers

restive peak
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Duuuude

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You’re NA right? If the wife passes out I’ll come help you

chrome plover
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no im EU

restive peak
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Ag right fuuuckkkk

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Was gonna say we could easily smash 20 atals in 20 and I can trade it, RIP

chrome plover
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yeah I've just been spamming 17-19s solo all day

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it's aight

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they are all sub-20 mins and I get instantly invited

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but I saw 3 trinkets in a row earlier to other people

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that kinda hurt

restive peak
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Fuck man

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😦

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We pray you get asap

chrome plover
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🙏

median marsh
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what are consider to be bis trinkets for raid?
and what for m+?

restive peak
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Brand rezan ST, ocean and probably fyrakk trink M+?

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I may be wrong

chrome plover
restive peak
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Look at us go

chrome plover
errant pond
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Is tott overtuned or what someone told me it is

chrome plover
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crab is also really good in keys though, it has like 35-40% uptime

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and sandglass i guess, but havent used it yet myself

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no flightstones

restive peak
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I’m gonna grab a crab just to try

noble elm
restive peak
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Sandglass is meh for keys, like it’s solid but we don’t need the haste

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Gonna pull a crit and run brand

chrome plover
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yeah haste is kinda in the dirt

restive peak
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I’ve been using it

noble elm
chrome plover
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I ran brand in the 20 wm i just did and it felt good

restive peak
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Swapped last key, big up

chrome plover
restive peak
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Wowza

chrome plover
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crab and brand

clever belfry
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🦀 🔥

restive peak
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Hahahaha

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Anda how’s Aug jail this tier

chrome plover
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I feel like I just equip random trinkets though atm

zenith siren
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why is fury so shitty

restive peak
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We’re trying to convince our one guy to roll aug

noble elm
restive peak
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Fury is not shitty, hit BT more

past pivot
warm crag
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release anda

chrome plover
solemn plover
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briing back anda from Jail

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pay his bond

zenith siren
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is it because im 2 set only

chrome plover
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no keep anda in jail

chrome plover
deep niche
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Sou da like your problem then

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Sounds

restive peak
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Anda somehow bypasses me on DPS logs even when he alts it, Andaaug is a robbery of beautiful warrior play

zenith siren
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no set lower rogue deals more damage then me 😣

clever belfry
restive peak
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That bad eh

clever belfry
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if the people i buff wouldn't int my damage on fucking gcd

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it wouldn't be that bad

restive peak
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I was going for an inspirational screenshot to convince our Druid…lol

clever belfry
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But it happens

restive peak
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Yeah I couldn’t gear an aug purely because it’s so based on others, so mid keys would be even more painful

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No way to soft carry, if they suck youre fucked

clever belfry
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carrying keys as aug is easier than you think

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u just make the tank not die

past pivot
restive peak
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True I suppose

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Idk it would just feel so frustrating, for me anyway

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DH has been a blast though, super busted, so much leech, immunity, blasty blast

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Ninja backflips into front flip stabs

past pivot
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The easiest soft carry actually

restive peak
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Interesting, I’ve never played one so I guess that was just my take from a distance

fervent turtle
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anyone knows (roughly) how much weaker the avatar induced odyns fury dot is compared to the actual one?

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like what is the "reduced effectiveness" of titans torment

young swan
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it doesnt reduce the effect of the OF as far as i know

fervent turtle
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unfortunate..

true arch
#

guys whats the best crafted for fury rn

restive peak
#

Double SF or vers bracers and SF cloak

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Double SF best ST, vers bracer option for aoe and m+ and they’re very close, I personally prefer having the extra vers

olive wraith
fervent turtle
# olive wraith Why is that unfortunate

because i am trying to justify simplyfying the opener a bit by macroing Reck+Avatar and using it before Odyns fury instead Reck > OF > Avatar after 4 secs. If the avatar OF dot was actually reduced, overwriting it directly wouldnt be that big of a loss

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in Raids it probaly does not matter, but in M+ ...

noble elm
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You reck on pull before charge so it matters quite a bit

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You’d basically whiff the OF from avatar

fervent turtle
#

well, you would then Reck after charge on targwt

olive wraith
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You also want to cast OF first to put it on cooldown

noble elm
olive wraith
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Your way also overwrites dancing blades

fervent turtle
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so "my" M+ opener would be Charge > Reck+Avatar > OF > Roar

warm crag
#

our opener is already simple enough, why do you wish to simplify it further

restive peak
#

Button press hard me go brrrr

noble elm
#

Mash 3 buttons and top dps

fading plume
#

Does anyone have a tracker WA for the new tier

olive wraith
#

Wait this is for ST or aoe

fervent turtle
#

as if pressing many buttons would be something great 😄

noble elm
olive wraith
fading plume
#

the remaining bloodthirsts

olive wraith
#

The button glows unless your Ui overwrites it

fading plume
#

yeah action bars are not visible on my ui

noble elm
#

Has anyone summed out smf in bus gear with two fyrakk axes?

olive wraith
#

Pretty sure it’s unique

noble elm
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Rip

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I know it’s still not close was just wondering if the proc made a diff because it’s so strong

inland flame
#

its certainly better than ever, but it doesn't get leggo buff this patch

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so your days playing it would hopefully be limited anyway

olive wraith
#

Can always sim it in gear compare

upbeat plume
unreal onyx
#

finally 4p gladge

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weapons + trink are down horrendeuosly

fervent turtle
#

still need the chest of that set -.-

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currently wearing it naked ^^

finite salmon
#

I have 2 T31 pieces and 2 T30 pieces. Which spec would you guys recommend? Should I stick to 4p T30 till I get my 4p T31?

slender perch
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2 and 2 feels slow

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t30 may feel better until you have 4p]#

finite salmon
#

2+2 is bad even for arms? Someone was saying that it was decent in this discord I vaguely remember

scarlet sapphire
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hey guys, recently got my 4p, is it normal to overcap on rage cause i dont wanna waste a BB buff? especially in Cds and Aoe

unreal onyx
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I waited to switch from T30 to T31 until I had 4p t31

olive wraith
#

Idk 2-2 feels fine to me

unreal onyx
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it's ok

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you just lose out on any cdr

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which can make it feel a lot slower

noble elm
#

Is it better to cap in execute?

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The bloodbath dmg amp is pretty huge

frank dawn
#

Pretty sure the apl prios execute but I haven’t checked recently

olive wraith
#

I’m almost positive bb>execute

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That being said you still need rage for ramp

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It feels like I’m able to ramp-bb-ex-ramp most of the time

frank dawn
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Yeah most of the time I need to hit execute anyway

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I’m not sure what the 100% correct answer is if execute would overcap you

lucid owl
#

for fury opener how big of a deal is it to reckless - charge- odyn versus charge- ava/reck macro?

frank dawn
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It’s a bit bigger if you’re playing spear since avatar gives you an off gcd OF in the EM window

olive wraith
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Also you really want to cast Of before Ava

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And def don’t wanna Ava before charging

frank dawn
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Yeah def don’t avatar before your charge

slim coral
olive wraith
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In execute range I’m sure

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Our execute ability isn’t that good

fervent turtle
olive wraith
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You shouldn’t do that though

fervent turtle
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in M+ its actually after you spent the 4 WW charges on Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB

olive wraith
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You’re missing at least 7.5 seconds of cdr

lucid owl
lucid owl
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okie

unreal onyx
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reck into charge gives you instantly enough to ramp, which enrages you to OF into bb

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no?

olive wraith
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Yes exactly

frank dawn
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His question wasn’t really whether you should do it, but how much does it matter. And you’re not going to cast all 3 bloodthirsts if you Ava first before hitting OF

olive wraith
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Getting Of cdr is pretty high value

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Idk why you’d want to delay it

lucid owl
#

yea so if i understand it correctly. do we want the odyn fury 4 second dot to fall off before ava. or hit ava when dot is still active?

fervent turtle
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a +4 OF cooldown for a whole bossfight

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its totally neclectable

frank dawn
olive wraith
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4 seconds then avatar. The bleed is 5 seconds but pandemics to refresh

unreal onyx
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it realistically doesn't matter in a 5min bossfight, yet there is literally no upside to not do it

lucid owl
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ok so i ususally see 0 or 1 on the debuff and i send ava or try to

olive wraith
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If you had the technical skill you could edit the apl

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Yup

spare otter
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holy shit i cant time everbloom

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this is insane

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how are people struggling with this so much

fervent turtle
#

Reck, charge, Avatar does not work for me.. it feels clunky AF

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my combat opener is charge

olive wraith
#

What? Isn’t EB like mid difficulty

fervent turtle
#

that feels "right"

spare otter
#

it's not difficult sure

unreal onyx
#

EB with bursting is a bit rough this week

spare otter
#

but no one interrupts on 2nd boss

olive wraith
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Macro rek and charge

spare otter
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and on last boss no one saves cd for add

fervent turtle
unreal onyx
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you want reck on CD anyway

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in most cases

fervent turtle
#

personally i bet i can find an opener that feels good to me and sacrice 0,005% dps for it

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but to each their own

thorny sparrow
#

is there a WA for when to cast avatar after odyns? I'm casting avatar as i see my character visibly shrink in size from the podyns avatar but not sure if thats the correct timing or not

slim coral
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that's your first issue

fathom umbra
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Boys, in AOE Rampage > Execute?

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Or Execute is priority?

fervent turtle
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where is that an issue, avatar casts OF so i need to do it after charge

olive wraith
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You should ramp before casting Of weather it’s from Ava or the actual spell

lucid owl
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so optimally reck-charge-ramp-OF-bb-ramp-bb-ramp- ava-tr?

edgy widget
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should use TR sooner

fathom umbra
#

What is TR?

upbeat plume
#

Thunderous roar

fathom umbra
#

Ok ty

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i usually used Reck - charge-OF-tr-bb-ramp-bb-ramp-ava

thorny sparrow
#

i just have recklessness bounf to my OF key

spiral night
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This^

lucid owl
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do we have to do anything special with dancing blades?

upbeat plume
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I don't think we play around it that much when we have odyns and avatar up

thorny sparrow
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my other thing is i have bound my trinkets to it too, as i'm used to having a fire everything pre-button but have had to take avatar off it

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so my odyns fury macro is recklessness, trinket, trinket, odyn's

lucid owl
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i dont know where to send spear if we run spear. i also dont really know what fights we wanna run spear versus TR

thorny sparrow
#

still using vial of animated blood

fervent turtle
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in M+, when i charge in and then i pop Reck/avatar (w titans torment) i instantly rage cap there is no need for a Rampage. Instead i go TR, Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB, OF, Ramp/BB/Ramp/BB...

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that just works

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and the only problem with that is that you lose a few secs OF CD

young swan
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just press OF first..?

spare otter
#

what in the world

rare dust
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Hello guys, i was wondering if i have to change some items from my items.I wanted to farm the ring with mastery haste.Are my stats good or should i change 1 ring from crit haste to mastery haste? What u guys think?

rare dust
#

With dungeons or raid items?

olive wraith
lucid owl
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if runnign spear. do i just spear after OF?

upbeat plume
#

Definantly for tyrannical weeks its nice

olive wraith
#

With whatever ring you’re trying to farm

upbeat plume
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DB that is

olive wraith
#

Idk even in fort weeks

umbral ingot
#

am I blind or is that TC bound as fury

olive wraith
#

Those prio targets die that much faster

slim coral
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Not avatar

fervent turtle
thorny sparrow
olive wraith
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I love giving up free damage

thorny sparrow
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its a bit clunky though because avatar and spears CDs match up perfectly

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so instinct is to have both on one button

olive wraith
spare otter
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just play arms and ww spam

thorny sparrow
olive wraith
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Maybe he won’t like pressing ss

spare otter
#

didnt play in wod bro...

thorny sparrow
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it was a weird time

spare otter
#

i played in shadowlands

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that was alright

light stump
#

My guild is raiding normal on Monday. I’m on a boosted lvl 70 (so min 424 gear) with t31 shoulder (lfr) and t30 chest and legs (quest 450s).

I have a few hours to play tomorrow, what should I do to prep gear-wise?

Thanks!

thorny sparrow
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im so sorry

spare otter
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i'm sorry too

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its when i first started wow

thorny sparrow
#

oof

spare otter
#

jesus was it dead

olive wraith
#

Focus on weps and trinks

spare otter
#

i'd say do dreamsurge/time rift

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then m+ spam

olive wraith
#

Those give the biggest boost for a single piece

vital mesa
#

Do I change my talents on 2pc or 4pc tier set?

chrome plover
#

2pc

clever path
#

in AOE if BT and Rampage are unavailable do we just send WW even if have WW stacks?

olive wraith
#

Do you have slam

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You could refresh ww I guess

mild ravine
#

did anyoner sym lariat?

snow edge
#

I'm sure someone simmed Lariat at some point

clever path
#

ye i forgot to mention slam and ww are both up

snow edge
#

But that's largely irrelevant since you'll need to sim it for yourself

olive wraith
#

Lariat also kinda blows until you get sockets

thorny sparrow
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currently in my aoe build lariat and wrists sim higher than wrists and shadowflame

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but its all variable

gilded pawn
tepid scroll
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Hekili decent for learning the new rota once you get 2p?

#

I got the t30 rota deep in my brain

clever path
#

New rotation is easy

#

Bb over everything

#

Rampage when you dont have bb

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Then ex>bt>slam>ww

tepid scroll
#

How does the opener change?

clever path
#

St or aoe

gilded pawn
#

T31 is exactly what hekili likes

tepid scroll
#

Yeah I remember hekili played t30 pretty much perfectly as well

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and I frequently orange parsed without it, just tried turning it on a couple times and it was spot on

viral orbit
#

I'm super confused. I picked up a +7 ilvl offhand and the raidbots sim is saying it's identical to my current offhand. Am I missing something here?

proud crown
#

better stats for u atm okayge

young swan
#

very odd

viral orbit
#

not over on any of my secondaries, i'd think the higher stats would be worth

#

but alright

#

ty

keen kindle
#

oh the things I'd do for a ravencrest's

sinful spoke
#

Ravenscrest and gorehowl

olive wraith
#

The things I’d do for anything over a 463

dapper goblet
#

👨‍🦼

inland flame
#

Don't worry Echo kills Fyrakk tomorrow and then everyone is going to be mailed the item to start the Fyralath quest.

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No ruse.

chrome plover
#

@restive peak 🙏

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happy thanksgiving

agile tiger
#

Its a lie

lunar summit
#

Doubt it tho

noble elm
fathom umbra
#

BB active this talent?

summer quail
#

yes

rotund steppe
#

wasnt that bugged?

proud crown
#

consumes on crit tho sadge

rotund steppe
#

oh rip

summer quail
#

oh is it bugged? it's really bad in aoe tho since you almost always crit one of the targets you cleave to

sudden tusk
#

you dont get multiple stacks

rotund steppe
#

then its worthless

sudden tusk
#

on cleave

summer quail
#

ye it's a st only talent

safe valve
#

does fury become better then arms in raid at 4 set?

errant pond
#

why is signet simming so shit for me I thought it was bis no?

#

or is like single target only kinda thing

clever path
#

its bis when combined with all bis gear

summer quail
errant pond
#

ah with new set and shit

clever path
#

i mean, the "bislist" is simmed with all the bis, so yeah

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but atm, i don't think you're geared full 489 bis everywhere, so your sims will tell u differents value, bcus of your actual stats etc :p

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just topgear urself / do some raid/ dung droptimizer and figure out 😄

mortal rock
#

how hard is fury warrior to play in raid in s3 ?

inland flame
#

new rotation is pretty easy

errant pond
summer quail
#

harder than s2 but still pretty easy

inland flame
#

esp during blust 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2 1 2

mortal rock
#

new rotation ?

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when did it come out ?

viral orbit
#

Alright I have another high quality, intelligent question to definitely not be made fun of for

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why tf isn't sophics enchat just always bis

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+900 primary seems way, way better than +1300 secondary

modest condor
#

because the robot says it isnt ¯_(ツ)_/¯

clever path
modest condor
#

you can try to find reasons and all that, but in the end it's just a math question and a program can answer that way more accurately

mossy fox
#

stop think, use robot, trust robot

modest condor
dense elbow
#

stop think, trust hivemind, trust sim

modest condor
#

hivemind?

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i remember that boss

#

fun pad boss

frank dawn
#

If your sims are like mine and show them all within .2% just use the one you want too lol

modest condor
#

when things are close i always prefer the one that gives haste because faster rotation gives more happy chemical

dense elbow
#

Gotta resim everytime you enchant, then keep replacing it over and over

#

that and gems

viral orbit
#

not an option chief

#

kek

sudden tusk
#

24s real hard without tier

modest condor
#

what do you mean not an option?

viral orbit
#

But alright, licking the feet of bot from hereon out

#

just that more haste isn't gonna start having diminishing returns haa

#

haha

modest condor
#

yeah but that doesnt mean anything

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if a sim says haste is better you go over the DR

viral orbit
#

sim is mad at me for having 2.8k mastery

dense elbow
#

Silm is getting angry D: oh no, run!

mossy fox
#

just delete the addon, it's bait

#

if sim says to equip something you equip it

upbeat blade
#

as it turns out the DR limits don't actually matter that much when stat good

sudden tusk
#

hows your experimentation going so far crit

slim coral
#

I've done so far

lunar summit
#

For big aoe weeks will we ever run ravager?

modest condor
#

no

lunar summit
#

Post 4 set

mossy fox
#

im not getting to experiment much tbh, been playing big keys and fury tankyness is too good to pass up

modest condor
#

without AM ravager loses a lot of value

slim coral
#

dancing blades feels so good in aoe

sudden tusk
#

ive been having to dstance alot post at 23s so far

slim coral
#

I like it over Titanic rage

modest condor
#

and you have to give up your 2 gcd bt cooldown for it

sudden tusk
#

as arms at least

#

Fury is def a vibe tho. 10% passive DR, Dstance, and self healing

#

all p juiced

inland flame
#

Ya living is one of our big good sides esp for M+

#

We have a billion health too

modest condor
#

dont forget to spec into second wind this week and watch your team die to 7 stacks of bursting rolling into 8 while you're chilling

mossy fox
#

second wind goated

dense elbow
#

I am already chillin'

sudden tusk
#

what did you drop for it

#

PnG?

modest condor
#

fear

sudden tusk
#

yeah fear does kinda blow esp with vdh

modest condor
#

you cant drop pain and gain

sudden tusk
#

they group everything so tight you cant get the interrupt off decently

modest condor
#

i do sometimes wish i had fear but oh well, it's only during bursting week

mossy fox
#

eh not really the reason you dont take fear

dense elbow
#

Go improved fear, for that AoE knockdown xan

slim coral
#

I miss percing howl

mossy fox
#

but yeah nothing else you can really drop

modest condor
#

it's not a knockdown it's a knockback

sudden tusk
#

theres also

dense elbow
#

they fly away? neato

sudden tusk
#

alot that you cant fear

#

in these dungeons

mossy fox
#

fear is very useful

#

despite that

slim coral
#

it seems cool

#

never tried it in keys though

sudden tusk
#

talent point econ

#

in shambles

mossy fox
#

not so great in practice

dense elbow
#

drop shockwave, take menace

mossy fox
#

main target immune to fear = nothing gets knocked

dense elbow
#

well, that is just stupid design

mossy fox
#

cant knock without a target either so it's just awkward to use

#

tried it in sanguine weeks in s2 and realised it wasnt worth it

slim coral
#

would fear break the dogs focus on you in Tides?

dense elbow
#

Tried to bring something, eh?

mossy fox
#

dont think so, not seen any ccs break the dog fixate

sudden tusk
#

yeah they just keep focusing you

mossy fox
#

tbh best way to deal with dogs is kill them before they kill you, blow all cds

sudden tusk
#

or whoever for the duration

slim coral
#

lol I just shockwave them and use parry

#

arms goated in that key

left perch
dense elbow
#

I just shadowmeld and tell myself that kept me alive, not my silly HPS as Fury Warr

spare otter
#

I tried a 26 for the first time

#

I trolled it so badly omg

wild mica
#

2 keys in a row with healers exploiting the smoldering seedling bug

#

weird

sinful spoke
#

chat today i get the drops i want right?

wild mica
#

oo what addon is that

sinful spoke
#

narcissus

wild mica
#

yo wtf is this trinket this is fall's last boss healer damage

#

this is his damage on manifested timeways

left perch
sinful spoke
#

what the hell?!?

#

ur saying i dont deserve them!?!?

left perch
#

you deserve them! If you get them

wild mica
#

i ahve no idea, but its related to the smoldering seedling from larodar

#

like what

zenith pike
#

guys which are the best trinkets for us?

slim coral
young swan
#

cant wait for fated when we get an ilvl 520 anvil that does 20 million damage because of annihilator

wild mica
#

cant wait until we dont play annihilator

young swan
#

tell that to pallydins

silver dawn
#

best trinkets for m+?

modest condor
#

looks like echo finally fell asleep

young swan
#

might of the ocean, augury, mirror, crab might be okay too

silver dawn
#

i got a might and a sandglass right now

modest condor
#

butcher's block looking interesting too

#

especially since you dont really get value from bloodcraze on aoe

zenith pike
modest condor
#

it's simming ahead of sandglass on aoe for me and that's with like 34% base crit

young swan
#

true i forgot about that trinket

modest condor
#

i need to fix some basic changes to the aoe apl so it at least casts bloodbath as top prio keks

#

i dont think i have it in me to look at dungeon slice tho

iron sorrel
#

Got any thoughts on the "unstable frostfire belt"? Seems to sim on me over other crafted items

#

wait nvm i might be drunk

modest condor
#

are you taking into account that it takes an embellishment slot

iron sorrel
#

Yeah, it sims on me over allied wristguards and other options

#

Got the cloak already

modest condor
#

i see

#

could also be because of the item it replaces

iron sorrel
#

Yeah might be

#

Seems quite odd tbh, in the long run going for the wristguards is prob the better option?

modest condor
#

the main advantage of wrists is that it has value on aoe

#

even if it may be slightly worse on st

iron sorrel
#

i see

#

is it smartest to sim patchwerk 5 mins?

modest condor
#

yes

iron sorrel
#

the margin is so little i guess i'll go with the wristguards

#

wait what am i thinking when i can just go with shadowflame on the molten vambraces

#

is it ok to have 2 shadowflames?

modest condor
#

yeah sure

iron sorrel
#

that makes it clear then

ebon shore
#

is 2p worth changing the build for?

sudden tusk
#

on top of aoe value

#

compared to the st of shadowflamex2

oblique trail
#

it does

#

It has like 90% uptime for 4 stacks

sinful spoke
#

FINALLY

iron sorrel
#

a lot of the top m+ score guys seem to have the allied wristguards though

#

hmm

#

oh boy... i need a weapon asap too

#

gz!

summer quail
olive wraith
#

Less damage intake good

left perch
sinful spoke
#

it only took to time an 18 gladge

viral orbit
sinful spoke
#

narcissus

viral orbit
#

ty

sinful spoke
#

np

#

question guys has anyones game been randomly freezing mid combate

#

it started this season

#

idk why its happening

#

i heard its an nvidia thing

normal ivy
#

got the new tier 2 set bonus n last tier 2 set ..any link to talent tree ?? im searching

olive wraith
#

Wowhead

fierce prairie
#

when and how we will be able to obtain legy weap

#

does anyone know ?

viral orbit
balmy shore
fierce prairie
#

So it jet have to be added to the game

sinful spoke
olive wraith
dapper goblet
#

👨‍🦼

fierce prairie
#

so in few days probably bcs rwf is close to an end

olive wraith
#

Go tell liquid to git gud

meager gyro
#

yo @olive wraith

olive wraith
#

Heroic?

meager gyro
#

nope doing normal on an alt, 440 ilvl alt getting big gains lol

olive wraith
#

I wish I was better about using it on cd

#

230 just feels awkward

meager gyro
#

weak auras

olive wraith
#

Auras very weak

#

Me strong

#

Nah I have normal but I feel like hourglass is better

#

Might roll with butcher block too

#

Undecided atm

inland flame
#

BB does have the passive buff

serene vessel
inland flame
#

ya I heard they datamined that Cho'gall jumps down from the rafters and finishes him off at 5%

#

then you have to kill him

modest condor
#

and then illidan joins

serene vessel
#

nah u just get this

spark maple
#

ooh

inland flame
#

liquid just beat Echo's best

slim coral
#

liquid sub 8

#

LETS GOOOO

spark maple
#

liquid 5.7%

slim coral
spark maple
#

if only i was there

#

i wouldve excuted that last bit

#

and got the kill

slim coral
#

if they had 3 arms warriors it would of been dead

inland flame
#

all of the 2H str users putting our energy into a spirit bomb so we can figure out what we have to go through for Firemourne

spark maple
#

they have one fury

inland flame
#

go go gadget bshout

spark maple
#

if that noob warr was arms

#

gg fyrak

modest condor
#

but he has arms in his name

#

so he must be playing arms!

inland flame
#

details must be bugged

modest condor
#

reminds me of speedpriest

#

the rogue

serene vessel
#

doesnt liquid have a second warrior

#

what happened to him

modest condor
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im pretty sure they have more than 2 warriors

inland flame
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RWF comp happened

modest condor
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@spice vine what happened to you

serene vessel
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thats right

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i remember him looking at my logs when i was killing sark

spark maple
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he fell off

modest condor
serene vessel
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ripbozo

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if i was in there liquid would still be stuck on Gnarlroot

inland flame
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gigachad

young swan
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secret phase inc

serene vessel
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man i really fuckin hope so tbhj

young swan
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its not dying tonight

serene vessel
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if they dont do a hidden phase thats the first xpac since cata to not have 1, right?

modest condor
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yeah

serene vessel
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feels giga unlikely theres a hidden phase tho which is big sadge

spark maple
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fyrak harder than most last expansion bosses

inland flame
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kinda feels like there isn't I guess but who knows

young swan
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oh yeah just a random 4% hp nerf while they were at 19% boss hp chatting

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surely no secret phase

serene vessel
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did blizzard nerf fyrakk?

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i just got back from travleing for thanksgiving and left b4 they killed t swift so ive missed a lot

inland flame
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they nerfed his HP earlier today

rugged coyote
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ello everyone 🙂 sorry if this is asked a lot but I can't see it readily here - if this is my first toon in Dragonflight, no previous tier etc. fresh 70 & just finished the Emerald Dream questline, which of the 6 talent builds would I be best to run from Wowhead?

young swan
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immediately after echo had a 19% wipe

serene vessel
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oh thinkge

inland flame
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max slipping ion a 20 under the table

serene vessel
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at the same time tho i feel like it's giga stupid for liquid to stay up if there's a secret phase

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and i feel like theyd have a good idea of secret phase

modest condor
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i mean if they get to the secret phase streams are going off for sure

inland flame
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ya

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no way to figure it out until fyrakk hits 0

serene vessel
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yeah but what i mean is they're staying up past their normal bedtime rn arent they?

young swan
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nah

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think normal bed time is 12 pst

modest condor
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how long from now is that?

inland flame
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3.5 hrs

modest condor
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damn im not staying up that long

serene vessel
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wow

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looking at this fight