#fury

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subtle lagoon
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I want whirlwind spam back

olive wraith
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Play arms

subtle lagoon
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No

olive wraith
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They ww spam

subtle lagoon
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I'm aware

inland flame
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I think its fair to complain about being shoehorned into a spec that changes your playstyle so much if you end up not liking it

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But that be the way it do right now

spare otter
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i'm glad to be able to help him pump that dmg

subtle lagoon
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warrior 2nd support spec

olive wraith
autumn mica
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XD

inland flame
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Our tier literally does nothing if you don't play OF

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If you don't like OF tough

olive wraith
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S1?

worldly shard
autumn mica
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Legendary will have to be 15-20% of our dps to even compete with Hunt/DH atm. Don't get me wrong i do hope so, but it's very unlikely.

olive wraith
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S2 you were trolling if you didn’t play am

worldly shard
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some quick day2 progress

autumn mica
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That's what i said too about the meta in season 2, look how far it got D:

worldly shard
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DH's doing 500k overalls 🙂

inland flame
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Oh sure but I like AM, still getting used to the new build. I understand the problem is still there. But I'm think across classes, too.

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Still not like I'm trying to make a huge stink about it. I'll get used to it.

olive wraith
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I’m not saying you can’t enjoy one build over the other

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But tier set heavily influences build

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That’s the point of them

inland flame
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It's just something worth saying. Our class plays completely different compared to last season. It's a huge swap.

wanton mirage
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So I dont need to feel bad when my hunter friend and dh friend are trumping me in overall?

autumn mica
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Nah u give them battle shout. Be happy

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They must praise u

inland flame
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Not just in talents selected but playstyle.

lunar cape
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Zug harder!

rich storm
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They didn't nerf Ret

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They're not gonna nerf DH or hunter

olive wraith
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Talents influence play style it’s the same thing

lunar cape
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They already nerfed hunter.

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Now he's just strong vice op

rich storm
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Warrior is gonna sit where we are now for forever and people are gonna go "Warrior is fine" when Ret's annihilator equivelant is annihilator but on crack

spare otter
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We're fine bro...

olive wraith
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I mean warrior feels fine

inland flame
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Not as much as this for other classes. At least it feels like. Ret's rotation is still really similar to last season for example. And I guess I'm a little jaelous because I like T30 playstyle a lot.

cosmic drift
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Our single target as fury with 4 set is actually decent

lunar cape
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Sitting happy in the middle of the pack with a leggo on the way we are chilling

olive wraith
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We played am for 2 seasons

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Change is good

rich storm
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We've been mid all xpac and we have to break our backs coming up with reasons for why we're fine and should be okay with looking for m+ groups for hours

cosmic drift
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It's probably more balanced for M+ than Arms. I'm pumping bosses as fury. Obviously it's not anywhere near DH or Rogue damage but we are pumping bosses more then them I find.

olive wraith
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We were just below meta last season

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Before Aug

rich storm
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Honestly a buff would be to give us hero

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Like just straight up a hero shout

olive wraith
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Here we go

inland flame
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Can't happen, if anything because that would make us the only BL tank

rich storm
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That come up often I guess?

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Ohh right

rose bay
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we have been lower ill take mid damage

rich storm
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Fair

wary spade
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is there a hard cap on mastery for fury?

inland flame
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Only soft caps where you start to lose rating from your gear

olive wraith
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No such thing as any caps

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Just sim

inner zinc
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Whats bad about being the only BL tank?

tacit crag
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Is 483 gorehowl better than a 489 weapon? Sims don't seem to take into consideration the demonbane stat, 483 gorehowl is below 483 ravencrest for me.

inland flame
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Well there are. If you get more than 30% haste on gear haste after that only gives you 90% value, as an example.

paper ivy
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@edgy widget

rich storm
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We have 3 tanks with bresses and the rest are sol

paper ivy
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what do u think of this build

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i do more damage with this build currently

olive wraith
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If robot tells us to out more of a stat we do it

edgy widget
olive wraith
inland flame
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I guess I was using the wrong term, but its still a point at which its worth less. It still may be worth more than other things, I realize that.

olive wraith
tacit crag
spare otter
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Isn't demonbane only good for like 2 dungeons

tacit crag
olive wraith
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Demonbane is more damage to demons

spare otter
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^

inland flame
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I think its supposed to be a bleed proc on only demons or sumn

tacit crag
hasty path
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I’m gonna guess it isn’t +200str

molten relic
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It’s not a skill

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It’s a stat

inland flame
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I think that's the proc off of the Garrosh heirloom trinket

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As stated before, I've seen comments saying that it procs a bleed on demons

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The Gorehowl stat, that is

molten relic
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Demonsbane is just attack power vs demons

spare otter
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Maybe gorehowl simming less than ravencrest because ravencrest has better stats for you currently

hasty path
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Not attack power and not str

molten relic
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Just weird that It says +293 demonsbane

inland flame
molten relic
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If it’s not just a stat

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Why would a proc have a number

inland flame
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Fined Gorehowl in that post

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On demons

tacit crag
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Ahhh okay, thank you. I thought the reason people wanted it was because demonbane gave more than just damage to demons. Guess it's just the stats

inner zinc
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U do want the extra dmg

rose bay
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Can second that i have one its just a random blead on daemons that do x amount of damage works in brh

olive wraith
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I mean demonbane IS extra damage

rose bay
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its really not much but its there

olive wraith
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But only good for a couple dungeons

inner zinc
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Its there at no extra cost or downside

rose bay
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its on a drip as fuck wepon 2

inner zinc
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Only reason you wouldnt want gorehowl is you dont like the other secondary stats

olive wraith
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It’s not as broken as double leech leather pants

meager void
olive wraith
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Think they joined and left

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They were frustrated earlier in the week about the rotation

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Idr which day

inner zinc
inland flame
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Our dad isn't even cool anymore ice lady beat him up sadge

rose bay
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Odyn was never cool

inland flame
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I thought the whole thing about him going incognito in Stormheim was neat at least

topaz dock
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Anyone got a nice weakaura?

steady thunder
meager void
past pivot
meager void
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Odyn's Fury tho, that's stonks

spare otter
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How close till wf fyrakk?

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I wanna see this legendary

inland flame
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Who knows? They're both still in P2 right?

hasty path
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Not today i don’t think

past pivot
hasty path
spare otter
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Ok so 2-3 business days

topaz dock
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No clue, i sim about 189k, but i hit like a wet pool noodle - Just did 110k overall. Not optimal with 456 ilvl.

hasty path
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I think late tomorrow

inland flame
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Haven't looked today but Liquid had a really good last pull last night

hasty path
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Or early Sunday

rose bay
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how are u simming 189k in 456

chrome plover
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is the best way to get flightstones really just do seeds

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(aside from keys)

spare otter
rose bay
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shit im not simming that in 471 the fuck am i doing wrong

past pivot
rose bay
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oh true

topaz dock
chrome plover
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but like

inland flame
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189 sounds like a dungeon slice to me

spare otter
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Because I'm 474 and simming 192k

chrome plover
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bit cringe to spam idk

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you get 10-15 per seed

past pivot
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Fastest way I've found, tbh

chrome plover
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yeah I think ur right

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was just coping that someone would tell me some op hack

past pivot
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since they nerfed heroic. Tried heroic, 2s, BGs, quests,

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LFR

rose bay
past pivot
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And Plumber is fastest per hour

spiral ermine
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im still pressing ww after of sometimes

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i just feel dumb

subtle lagoon
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Felt big for once

inland flame
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top melee spec confirmed, cope and seethe everyone else

rose bay
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Hell yeah boys we pissin

spare otter
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Hmmm

rotund steppe
terse snow
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guys what do we craft im so clueless about this exp

subtle lagoon
spare otter
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Do I farm for Rezan or just get it in my vault

subtle lagoon
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I need to farm weapon I haven't had any drop from raid or m+

past pivot
errant wedge
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can I give/receive a raid loot from a player of the opposite faction?

misty gull
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guys sorry for offtop but what graphic setting can affect visibility of this line from Fel Vormit (BRH) ? It just always invisible for me

jade peak
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anyone wanna take a look at log of a AD 20 I did? i'm at 471 ilvl equipped and I parsed 67. I must be doing something really wrong man. i have no idea what. best enchants, best pots, correct rotation (most of the times I guess)

past pivot
errant wedge
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just wondering if it's really not possible to trade, or we must fulfill the condition, like being in the raid instance

past pivot
zenith gorge
crystal summit
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You can’t trade cross faction outside the instance

zenith gorge
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Doesnt matter which

crystal summit
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Fly to Ruby and walk inside, then you can trade

brittle fractal
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Their is a method to the madness.

meager void
errant wedge
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yes, it worked once we've got into a raid, thank you

meager void
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about OF and Avatar interaction.
In concrete terms, is the play in order:

  1. Cast OF
  2. 2xfillers/spender
  3. Cast Avatar
    ?
lavish grove
prime root
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Ya I never see the line and I play on full ultra, think it's just bugged or somethin

hoary cove
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how much of a dps increase is 4set?

inland flame
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Depends on if you're comparing it to old 4p or new 2p, also what situation you're in.

olive plank
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Looking at the rotation part of the guide; am I correct in assuming we always spend bloodbath and execute before rampage? Even when rage capped?

subtle lagoon
topaz dock
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Man sometimes when i play fury, i zone out and forget WW.

olive plank
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So the prio is BB > Rampage > Execute

rocky field
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so... is vaskarn bugged? got the wyrm achievment but cant find a trade up crest option. just wondering if anyone else has ran into this?

meager void
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no thats wrong

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its BB > Exec > Rampage

agile bone
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hey guys, i wondered if in m+, i use avater and odyns fury instantly or if i stagger odyns fury for the dot uptime. One side wants me to stagger it for the dot, the other to use instantly for the cdr. any idea whats better? NVM i found it.

meager void
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at least that what the APL says

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and wowhead

spare otter
unreal cape
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so which is it? BB > exec or ramp ?

meager void
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you only favor Rampage if enrage is down

olive plank
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Yeah, specifically when rage capped

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If it's inconsequential, then I guess you only rampage before that for enrage?

topaz dock
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How much mastery do i want?

olive wraith
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As much as robot says

meager void
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ok to be precise about what APL says, its:
BB > Exec to consume Ashen > Rampage > Exec w/o ashen

THIS IS AN OLD APL AND WRONG FOR CURRENT

inland flame
past pivot
pulsar prawn
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man i wish they would do some rework / changes to talents.. like crushing force / overwhelming rage 1 talent point only.. for arms and fury its so little dmg for 2 points

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(2nd fury key)

olive wraith
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It’s bigger for arms

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I think I’m gonna take a point out to shift somewhere else

meager void
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and that being the case, this should be updated for precision

spare otter
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Tf is ashen

rotund steppe
spare otter
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Oh

meager void
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so basically, we could use an Ashen tracker to min-max Execute

modest condor
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not really

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you cant maintain ashen outside of execute phase

olive wraith
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For ease of use assume it’s up only in execute range

meager void
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yeah wait, Ashen is almost always up only on exec phase

olive wraith
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Only in execute range

modest condor
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and it's really just saying prio exe over ramp during execute phase if you're talented into ashen

olive wraith
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Above 35% health SD is too infrequent to maintain AJ

spare otter
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So back to the question then

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We prio BB - rampage then exe?

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Until execute phase

meager void
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I believe you mean Ramp>Exec before execute phase and Exec>Ramp on execute phase, correct?

modest condor
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if you're talented into AJ yes

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keep in mind that there are conditions in the rampage line too

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you're not just comparing with rampage, you're comparing with rampage above 110 rage

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wait why are you using an old APL

olive wraith
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Think of SD procs as highest prio filler

modest condor
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the APL you're using is from before the patch even went live

edgy widget
meager void
meager void
spare otter
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I think he means in execute phase

edgy widget
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No?

meager void
edgy widget
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I said it’ll maintain itself, not that it’ll always be up

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If you can’t maintain it over 35% anyway, then tracking it is a non-factor

primal bane
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made it to the 190 club boys

spare otter
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Yea I felt good reaching that

primal bane
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still need smoly boy trink

spare otter
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Then I realised I'll still get out DPS by hunter, DH, etc

meager void
primal bane
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well hunter and DH are broken in keys what can you do

normal yoke
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Is the BiS list on WH still accurate? I saw a few people here saying legs would be the off-set piece, but the WH list shows helmet as the off-set piece:

primal bane
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i mean i pulled 216K overall in a 17 BRH before i got my upgraded neck

normal yoke
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Or is it close enough to not matter?

olive wraith
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Don’t worry about bis

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Just sim your gear

shut nebula
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Sorry if this has been answered already, looked through pins/FAQ and found the old build for Single-minded fury. How would you set it up for the new build once you have T31? I know its not as good as TG, just someone I enjoy as an alt

ruby radish
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Is there an easy way to sim wich rune is best to use on your weapons?

olive wraith
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Ya there should be an option towards the bottom in top gear

meager void
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I was having this discussion within my guild the other day. BiS is a rather non-sensical term in the days of simcraft. However, it's still a good moniker to represent when a piece is huge for someone during loot distribution

olive wraith
normal yoke
wispy dock
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Hey @edgy widget with 4 set reducing the OF cd… will we want to delay anything to make sure the 2nd cast of reckless to make sure that and OF realign? I’m just curious if it would be ready to align as it currently does without 4set

olive wraith
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Informed decisions =droptimizer

ruby radish
olive wraith
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Can’t you select multiple?

past pivot
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no, have to sim each by their own

olive wraith
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Oof

meager void
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there's strings you can input in advanced sim

normal yoke
olive wraith
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Well there you go I guess lol

ruby radish
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sadlly no

meager void
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but hissing is mostly what you will always want unless your gear is funky

past pivot
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Or hissing and howing

ruby radish
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cool, ill have to do some sims then i guess 😄

meager void
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there's a string somewhere that lets you test all food, runes, flask, etc

normal yoke
# meager void there's strings you can input in advanced sim

That allows for simming between the different runes in a single sim?? If so I'd love to hear more.
Is there anything like that for simming last season's Essence? I haven't replaced mine yet and would love to not have to run 4-5 different sims to find out which flight bonus is best for my current gear.

edgy widget
spare otter
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can we add sockets to other items like we do for neck piece?

edgy widget
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With the vault item, yes

normal yoke
edgy widget
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Not freely

meager void
spare otter
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ooof

wispy dock
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I would guess at most OF just gets delayed a few seconds as reck is starting to come off CD

meager void
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this it the one for all flaks, rune, etc

normal yoke
prime charm
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despite my earlier view of the tier set i actually quite like the rotation change

desert cloud
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do we actually sim higher with less haste

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it seems like all the gear that has haste isn't an upgrade for me

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in ST

normal yoke
meager void
normal yoke
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Ah, so not usable with top gear?

meager void
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nope, but lets you test the bests consumables with your current gear

spare otter
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omg

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i forgot whetstones exist

meager void
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blizz too, no one uses I think

normal yoke
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Cool, I'll see if I can find that OCE string somewhere as well. Google is failing me for the moment.

spare otter
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oh ok thats weird

meager void
frosty scroll
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is crit trash with new 4p?

meager void
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It has being posted 1000 times

normal yoke
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Looks like this is it.

desert cloud
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it doesn't work for me

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do i just copy it inside the advanced thingey

olive wraith
worldly shard
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ppl want 489ilvl dudes in +11s?

spare otter
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anyone else feel like intimidating shout does fuck all in keys

tidal heron
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For crafting, it's bracer and cloak both with shadowflame patch right?
Stats being? haste+mast?

subtle lagoon
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It's definitely not as good as other forms of cc, but can help in a pinch. You'd usually want to rely on shockwave/stormbolt

lunar cape
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Other than that it sucks

mossy fox
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int shout is great

wispy dock
gilded pawn
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if by int you mean running it down mid

lunar cape
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I Wana steal it

summer quail
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fury st is illegal

inland flame
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membering the good ol days when we had a 45sec cd actual aoe interrupy and a pain suppression to put on people and a really good raidwide damage cooldown

olive wraith
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We have a 45sec aoe stop

inland flame
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oya sure and stuns are great but Int Shout was an actual interrupt so it could handle stun-immune stuff too

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I basically solod poison volley interrupts for my guild on Horridon lol

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MoP kits were insane

rigid stirrup
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i'm really excited to test this might of the ocean rn

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also shout out to people who trade trinkets w people who need

tidal heron
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For crafting, it's bracer and cloak both with shadowflame patch right?
Or cloak with shadowflame and Allied bracers?
Stats being? haste+mast? crit+haste (so it can be used as prot as well)?

clever path
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guys which weakaura is the one that says "I can reflect this" in say?

waxen wave
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Haste mast is probably a safe bet though

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By the time it will really change up you can just plug it through gems or other slots that you’re still working on

strong yacht
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Yoo whats up, can someone explain me what T30 and T31 means?

lunar cape
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It's the tier we are on

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T30 was last season t31 is current

strong yacht
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ahhh okay

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ty

twilit hinge
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wtf

lunar cape
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Nice codpiece

inland flame
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only thing missing is a tpose for dominance

plucky ice
wild mural
twilit hinge
worldly shard
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atal dazar seems pretty free

pulsar prawn
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found a matrix glitch

inland flame
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interesting

lunar cape
worldly shard
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i got a free key just now

inland flame
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tank must be crying for bshout

subtle lagoon
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Thought I was going to do way worse than blaster classes

lunar cape
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Probably thank nvix for that

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He did crush some keys last night

subtle lagoon
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465

worldly shard
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doing bout the same at 450ilvl

pulsar prawn
worldly shard
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hunt/pally were 470

slender perch
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Guys. Is there a weak aura to show the BT/BB 100% crits remaining?!

worldly shard
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guessing ill just move on to +20s

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at 450ilvl

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for vault

pulsar prawn
young swan
subtle lagoon
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Bloodthirst shines by default when you have furious bloodthirst tho

frosty karma
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i just made my BT icon glow yellow if tier stacks remain and green if stacks remain and RA is preset it also kachings yep

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so during cds its 6x kaching yep

floral folio
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I need help I have the 4 set bonus and im at ilvl 450 but what stats do i prio and how do i up my dps? its not where it should be is what im told

young swan
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just get more gear

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generally anything with mastery will be good

floral folio
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right now my mastery is 37%

subtle lagoon
clever path
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When does mastery dr for fury

young swan
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not everyone uses action bars to track abilities

inland flame
clever path
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You didn't understand

subtle lagoon
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Oh yeah freaks who use wa to replace the whole thing. Forgot about that kek

young swan
clever path
somber elk
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guys how can we sim which weapon rune is best for us?

inland flame
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Oh I misread that lol

young swan
slender perch
subtle lagoon
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yep

young swan
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:)

slender perch
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Also…. If we have the bloodthirst buff up, but no bloodbath due to rampage not available, should i use up a guaranteed crit or should I use slam/WW?

pulsar prawn
olive wraith
meager gyro
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Y'all better recognize the only good WA kit okayge (ignore arms spec)

slender perch
olive wraith
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Arms bad

unreal onyx
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arms deadge

wispy dock
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@meager gyro is that your own WA/elvui set?

oblique trail
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Ye he for sure made that himself

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And it's not at all just Atrocity

wispy dock
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Oh is that atrocity’s UI?

olive wraith
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The only atrocity here is arms chat in fury channel

young swan
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maybe a modified version

oblique trail
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It is Atrocity's

undone zinc
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hey i got the omni token for 2k rio, if i buy the elite pvp item can i upgrade it without rating?

clever path
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in m+ is it better to play slaughtering strikes over skullcraze

young swan
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i dont play either

summer quail
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fresh meat db best m+ build

clever path
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why would u play fresh meat

young swan
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im fiddling with massacre atm

clever path
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reck charge u have enough for ramp and if u dont u can just odyns

young swan
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you dont always have reck

summer quail
young swan
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but yeah he mentioned dancing blades

clever path
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oh db

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didnt see

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my bad

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yeah in that case makes sense

summer quail
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db owns

clever path
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wasting 10 seconds to generate enough rage sucks

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i played a key with db on accident once

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didnt even notice it

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im just used to enraging before odyns

clever path
summer quail
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the amount of st damage is kinda crazy

clever path
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idk my st in keys is just nuts

clever path
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is just

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executing mobs

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in a pack

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in a 23

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mid pack they are like 35%

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odyns

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bb

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25%

olive wraith
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Really smooths out sub 35 health

clever path
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ramp bb 15% ramp bb dead

subtle lagoon
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Why does the tier chest piece have flared sleeves, so weird

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cloth plate hybrid lookin ass

olive wraith
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Wish we could swing Aj in m+

clever path
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i hate it

meager gyro
sturdy river
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post odyn/avatar we BT first yes?

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so that you get BT -> Ramp -> BB-> ramp -> BB

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instead of Ramp -> BB -> Ramp -> BB ?

summer quail
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no, coz then you empower the bt instead of bb

subtle lagoon
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Why waste furious bloodthirst on bt instead of bb

sturdy river
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oooo okay

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thanks fellas

placid dust
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I got 2 t31 set should I use them or stay with 4 set t30 till I get 4 set t31?

echo sphinx
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2p+2p

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is good for ST

lunar cape
placid dust
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Is going arms better in this or just stay fury?

lunar cape
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Yes, but play what you like more there are very close

placid dust
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Awesome ty❤️

olive wraith
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I love 2/2 fury

old jetty
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hi my brothers in arms

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somebody can help me with my stats

lunar cape
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Arms is other channel

old jetty
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i dont know what is happening to my warr but my dps is terrible

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im fury

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im just saying jeje

lunar cape
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Hrm misleading...

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Go on

old jetty
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im on right know

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and you
?

#

right now im 22% crit 30 % haste 47% mastery and 17 vers

#

471 item level

lunar cape
#

What are you simming vice what are you doing?

brittle crow
#

u want more vers for more dmg

#

vers best stat

lunar cape
#

Also we talking st or aoe

old jetty
#

im talking about raid

#

st

#

please

lunar cape
#

Got logs in the log review channel?

gilded pawn
#

Definitely not the stats

rugged hornet
#

quick question about the 4p, if I hit BT and hit 5 targets and all 5 BThits are crits. does that all go towards the CD reduction to OF or just the primary hit

brittle crow
#

just the one

light jetty
#

fury or arms better rn?

rugged hornet
#

rip

#

alright ty

meager gyro
glass kelp
#

quick question, does this quest usually give Renacent Dream (catalyst) from the chest ?

shy knot
#

whats the opener like on raid ST ?

#

spear or OF first

glass kelp
#

and then spam rampage > bb

shy knot
#

ok been doing it right then

#

just felt weird to OF before spear for some reason

lunar cape
#

Yea it's a weird interaction since ava also activates of

#

Gotta get it on cd so you don't waste

glass kelp
#

^ yup

shy knot
#

and you mean titans torment ?

#

dancing blades is like 10 secs

solemn pebble
#

Idk if it's WeakAuras or what it would be but is there anything for the UI that lets me track whether or not I'm enraged?
Also if it's possible to have something track my Whirlwind status so it's easier to tell when to use it again. I'm just learning (new to WoW in-general) so wanting this at least for now to make sure I'm keeping both up sufficiently

radiant coyote
#

Whats a fastt way to farm flighstones, i have all crests but no stones

olive wraith
#

Low keys

lunar cape
#

If you are looking for rotation addon hekili is usually the recommended one

clever path
olive wraith
solemn pebble
#

Both of them?

olive wraith
#

Ww for sure

#

I don’t tend to track enrage

shy knot
#

so when exactly we avatar then

#

after the 4sec buff or dancing blades buff

olive wraith
#

I just make a habit of ramp before hit hits

solemn pebble
#

I'm not even sure if I need to, just want to be 100% sure I'm keeping both up as I should to ensure I'm not doing something stupid and losing DPS

olive wraith
#

I was checking a few m+ logs I did last night and enrage uptime was like 80%

olive wraith
#

You’ll lose some db time but it’s better to send avatar

shy knot
#

we dont care about losing the empowered BTs ?

#

like only popping 2/3 etc

clever path
clever path
#

bb is most of our damage

olive wraith
#

The tier stacks to 6

clever path
#

i reck charge ramp of spear bb ramp bb ramp bb ava ramp bb ramp ava

olive wraith
#

So you don’t lose the buffed bb

shy knot
#

aah nice

clever path
#

and rampaging

arctic salmon
subtle lagoon
#

++21BRH let's go wicked

olive wraith
#

Brh best dungeon

subtle lagoon
#

Was annoying last week but seems to be a cakewalk this week

solemn pebble
#

But thanks!

#

just have these on screen to tell me if enrage/timer and if whirlwind stacks/timer

arctic salmon
#

👍

prime charm
#

m+ is very easy this season and we are not even max strength yet, id expect to see some very high keys timed this season

restive peak
#

We 3060 now bois we gaaaamin

olive wraith
#

Rise is ass

wanton mirage
#

Inflation is real

#

Kinda good that 20s are easier though

#

Just wish they add more cosmetic rewards for 25 and 30s. Could really use an extra motivation.

brave silo
#

anyone on eu wanna armor stack farm throne trinket?

iron sorrel
#

Is there a clear preference on what WA to use for abilities?

restive peak
#

Rise 23 was our cap

#

24 ridiculous

olive wraith
#

I think people also struggle with AD last boss in higher keys

modest condor
#

im seeing people in high keys do the bfa s1 strat

#

where you soak spiders

#

which is so weird

#

there's a reason nobody did that for the rest of the expansion

olive wraith
#

Wait what

#

Just to lessen the floor clutter?

modest condor
#

soaking spiders just creates area denial

#

on top of making people spread all over the place which spreads out the chasing spiders more

#

if you do the proper strat it's a complete joke of a fight

unreal onyx
#

I was away this week

#

is fury so back?

restive peak
#

Fury is good

modest condor
#

people on the ptr were dooming too hard

#

it's true that with OF on cooldown you dont do much damage, but the cooldown is so low you'll pretty much always get it up on a pack

clever belfry
#

doubt they will now

worldly shard
#

bruh

#

i havent gotten any DOTI key

subtle lagoon
#

Got rezan's trinky, not sure if it's better than what I'm using

olive wraith
#

What do you have

delicate glade
#

Does bitter immunity remove Bursting stacks?

olive wraith
#

I don’t think so

delicate glade
#

So as Orc im just 100% dependend on healer?

inland flame
#

Burst is magic, Bitter is diseases, poisons and curses.

#

Spell reflect reduces its damage, and you can heal yourself or use comsumes. But otherwise yes.

delicate glade
#

aight, thank you

wild mural
#

go dwarf

#

stoneform op

olive wraith
cold ivy
#

are the wowhead dps rankings worth worrying over?

#

i saw fury was bottom and was a bit worried

#

you guys in here probably pumping either way 🤔

unreal onyx
#

where is fury on the bottom?

inland flame
#

Public perception can be trouble for pugging but Fury dam is fine

unreal onyx
#

tier lists are my god, I am guided by them

#

and I shall not question them

cold ivy
unreal onyx
#

last one that I see in the news is from the 20th

#

and fury is also not at the bottom

cold ivy
#

yeah it was this post mb

median narwhal
#

Got my 4P 😄

unreal onyx
#

also even looking at the data with half the people still using s2 gear and thinking it's gonna be accurate for the next weeks

#

sus

spare otter
#

Fury warrior at the bottom

#

:what

unreal onyx
#

surely week 1 and week 2 dps rankings are gonna define the season

spare otter
inland flame
#

joewari da

narrow narwhal
#

Fury is at the bottom :woo:

round girder
#

if im pugging what would be the best time to rally on heroic fyrakk

unreal onyx
#

🪵

dense elbow
#

Whenever you feel in danger

olive wraith
#

When there’s lots of raid damage

#

Unless raid leader specifies

unreal onyx
#

I think I was rallying during intermission or smthn

spare otter
#

Survival hunter beating us

#

It can't be real

#

Wake me up someone

cold ivy
#

survival hunter deserve their spot up there :grr

worldly shard
#

bruh i dont get the doti keys

#

always the other 6

astral path
worldly shard
#

and also wtf is my loot

#

still 450

dense elbow
#

peepoBlush I done 22 runs, still no loot, trust - the loot will come, you need only to be lucky once

unreal onyx
#

im ilvl 460 equipped rn but I am using s2 4p

#

im at 3p s3 but i'll only switch when I have 4

worldly shard
#

i got hero neck/hero legs/champ 470ring / 467champ boots / champ wrist

olive wraith
#

First in line for leggo copium

worldly shard
#

and the prot warr bis 1hand

#

from fyrakk

#

neck/legs are useless

#

cuz embelishements

olive wraith
#

Neck isn’t useless

unreal onyx
#

if I get a heroic tier piece I am going up +8ilvl equipped instantly

olive wraith
#

Neither are legs

dense elbow
#

neck and legs?

worldly shard
#

i have torc

unreal onyx
#

that's not an embell

olive wraith
#

You crafted torc first?

worldly shard
#

i have that from s2

olive wraith
#

So how is the 470 bad

worldly shard
#

ill be recrafting legs/wrist to 486 with shadowflame

olive wraith
#

Don’t do legs

worldly shard
#

cloak?

unreal onyx
#

yes

worldly shard
#

well i just got this shit tho

#

might just catalyst then

#

or wait for vault

olive wraith
#

Yes if you’re doing double patch wrist/cloak

storm bough
#

interrogative: been running the new recommended annihilator build in raid and having great results. but have been nervous about moving it to mythic+, maybe just because of the long whirlwind cooldown. How have other people's results been? Still able to pump?

spare otter
#

WW CD is like 3-4 seconds

worldly shard
#

considering ill have 2charges of catalyst + vault(+17-18)

spare otter
#

More than enough time

worldly shard
#

and ksm next week

#

thats a speedrun lol

#

only day2 so far into the season

#

4pc just like that

prime charm
#

do items that are potential tier pieces keep their sockets if you catalyse them?

worldly shard
#

yes

#

they also keep leech/avoidance/speed

prime charm
#

ty

worldly shard
#

stats

frail trout
#

would it be good to pull some talent from the m+ build to get bloodcraze? I'm not always getting the CD reduction to odyns fury on my bloodthirst casts

bold osprey
olive wraith
#

Bloodcraze drops in value for aoe because you already have a high chance to crit on one of your cleaves

worldly shard
#

3rd spark next week?

#

or 2.5

bold osprey
inland flame
bold osprey
#

And 2nd Catalyst Charge

frail trout
#

I mean with only 26% crit chance without reck up

#

I do not feel like its being reduced consistently

#

thats using a crit flask also

worldly shard
#

got 0pc atm, still running old 4pc

#

going from 0pc to 4pc in minimal time seems nuts

#

lol

bold osprey
worldly shard
#

might just do the campaign tomorrow and host heroic

#

for 5/9 atleast

spare otter
#

Better that way tbh

#

Would rather get set piece fast af

#

Than hope on rng

worldly shard
#

got hero legs atm, gonna aim for helm/chest/hands

#

maybe lucky in vault

#

just need 1x more 17

olive wraith
#

I’ve got a hero avoidance legs I might cata

inland flame
#

I have hero chest and legs, got hero gloves I can cata on Tues. But gonna have to buy fourth with a normal curio I have.

#

Still haven't done heroic yet this week tho.

inner zinc
# worldly shard

I got those but myth track with avoidance so i turned them into yier legs

#

However im on a dry streak for weapons. Still rocking 447x2 weaps 😦

olive wraith
#

Upgrade some from the dream

#

Free 463

sour wing
#

how good is the autoattack fire damage neck from the anniversary event

olive wraith
#

Probably decent but doesn’t it cap at low ilvl

regal falcon
#

What's like the max amount of time you would hold Reck to line up with Odyns

sour wing
#

stats are 441

#

im just thinking ahead for the fated raids

regal falcon
#

I see the wowhead guide says like 10% of cd so like 9-12 seconds at most?

sour wing
#

might be good with the rings from vault

worldly shard
#

small upgrades

gritty sigil
#

i feel like its so hard to get into keys as a fury warrior QQ.

worldly shard
#

i just run my own

gritty sigil
#

i have a fall and its bugged, cant list

#

and blizzard 2FA is broken

worldly shard
#

double chesting most 17s 18s

gritty sigil
#

i double chested a +20

#

and get declined from 16s

olive wraith
#

Go as prot to inflate your io

worldly shard
#

i just deplete them into 17-18

gritty sigil
#

idk how to tank :/ im a unga bunga dps only

worldly shard
#

should get to 2.5k next week

#

maybe ill time all 20s tomorrow

#

will see

#

just need some weapon drops

#

dungeons feel ez

unreal onyx
#

roidstack, is that you?

gritty sigil
#

uh. im roidragerick o.o

unreal onyx
#

I mean the gangster

gritty sigil
#

oh

unreal onyx
#

gone but not forgotten, may he eat plain chicken with rice in discord heaven

olive wraith
#

Nelth 16 never forget

narrow narwhal
#

Dang we lost him too?

unreal onyx
#

some time ago

#

I think with soda but im not sure

buoyant salmon
#

rip sodiepop

north geyser
#

is the stat prio with tier 2/4 set bonus still haste>master>crit>vers? someone in my guild was saying it changes and haste isn't good anymore with tier

olive wraith
#

Don’t worry too much about stat prio

#

Simming is the best way to get max damage

silver frigate
#

spend crests on gorehowl upgrade or on crafting wrists?

inland flame
#

Have you gotten both free enchanted wyrm crests?

silver frigate
#

no just one

north geyser
#

there's 2 free ones?

silver frigate
#

wheres the other from?

inland flame
#

20 rep and killing Fyrakk

silver frigate
#

20 rep omegalul

strange drift
#

quick question : how the fuck do i make it so when i press 1 key it casts odyns fury and roar later

#

I just really like my V key for odyns fury but i also have roar and it throws me off

#

and im bad at macros

silver frigate
#

I'm at 12 rep atm

runic pine
#

Just put them on two different buttons

#

Or if you really can’t be bothered shift+same button

topaz dock
#

Keep forgetting to use WW, smacked a big fat weakaura in the middle of the screen, hope my overall dps goes up in dungeons 😄

silver frigate
#

My thoughts: "one two three four ww one two three four ww"

summer nova
#

That will cast Odyn's then roar with 2 clicks of the same button, and reset the sequence x seconds later

topaz dock
shy knot
#

the rotation feel shitty to anybody else with 2p2p ?

silver frigate
#

can't relate won the roll on two tokens clueless

inland flame
shy knot
#

yeah in m+ the cds are so loooong

olive wraith
#

Been having a blast in m+

topaz dock
#

Idk i always get targeted by boss shit, so they are up when i get back to pumping

inland flame
#

The problem is without OF you don't do that good cleave dam with our new build and you don't have OF often enough without 4p in M+.

strange drift
#

i really dislike the anih rotation

#

idk

#

feels off

olive wraith
shy knot
#

arm

olive wraith
#

Oops wrong one

topaz dock
inland flame
#

Well your sims don't have 4p either, but they also don't factor in the chaos and downtime of a real dungeon.

shy knot
#

it feels kind of classic-esque in the sense that you spam like 2 buttons

#

and do big numbers

topaz dock
#

cant crit more than 300k 😮

silver frigate
#

with 4p in execute phase I don't know when to use execute because you can chain Rampage and Bloodbath again and again until the rage runs out

#

is it correct to only use it for rage generation?

olive wraith
#

In m+?

topaz dock
#

Think its BB > Exe > rampage in execute phase

silver frigate
#

ye

half valve
#

Can someone pls explain why we would take shockwave over more TR ?
I realize its utility, its it seems like quite a big dmg loss

shy knot
#

It must be cuz its weak af compared to BB

#

shockwave bis

#

so short cd

compact knot
#

did 275k overall in a darkheart 19

shy knot
#

and pug shitters dont use their utility most of the time

compact knot
#

shit kinda cranks

olive wraith
#

Ex is top filler in m+

topaz dock
compact knot
#

ye

inland flame
#

Gotta remember when playing with 2p, that power you feel when you OF, you get that wayyyy more often with 4p.

compact knot
#

ofc

#

i didnt bother going with 2p2p fury in m+

#

just went arms until 4p and didnt look back

topaz dock
#

Tier 30 4p over tier 31 2p?

inland flame
#

Ya I tried it in a AD 18 and it was kinda awful. Went straight back to T30 4p.

compact knot
#

t30 4p > t31 2p2p in m+ atleast

somber elk
olive wraith
#

Disagree

compact knot
#

in raid t31 2p2p cranks

olive wraith
#

I like 2/2 in my+

#

M+

compact knot
#

ok you can like it but it doesnt do nearly as much damage

inland flame
#

Just feels wayyyy too weak when you're waiting for OF

compact knot
#

maybe on bosses it owns

topaz dock
#

Late to the party, i only have tier 31 2p 😮

half valve
olive wraith
#

Idk just gotta stagger your cd a bit

#

You get Of basically every pack

somber elk
dreamy hemlock
#

Is simming dungeon slice valid for aoe or do we only sim for ST?

dark ice
#

Can I put embelishment on non cratfed items ?

inland flame
#

No.

dark ice
#

Since crafted items are not the highest ilvl, how do they compare ?

dark ice
#

since you can compensate with embelishment

dreamy hemlock
#

Cheers Fury

olive wraith
inland flame
#

They're worse because of the ilvl thing, that's why we perfer wrists and cloak since they have the smallest stat budget, so we miss out on the least stats.

olive wraith
#

Aka cape/wrists

compact knot
#

if anyone tells you dslice isnt going to tell you how much aoe u do

#

they are wrong

inland flame
#

Also in general be careful on crafting enchanted aspect crests early its less efficient than upgrading hero+ gear.

compact knot
#

^

true sapphire
compact knot
#

upgrading my sword, trinket and helmet was 4k more dps over grabbing a 486 shadowflame cloak

#

60 aspect crests for 1.2k dps gain kinda bad ngl

#

prio upgrading one weapon fully with crests, the weapon after that will only take flightstones

somber elk
#

Imagine getting a second weapon

compact knot
#

i got it traded to me

#

GG

dark ice
#

How do i upghrade crests now ?

compact knot
#

havent had the same luck with DHT jewerly though

compact knot
#

you can downgrade

inland flame
#

Ya I'm strugglin a little I have a max champ Gorehowl but I haven't gotten a hero weap yet.

#

Can you not buy higher crests once you can the lower ones now?

dark ice
young swan
#

you can

inland flame
#

Like once everything is 450 you can bnuy drakes w whelps

#

OH

compact knot
#

wait huh

inland flame
#

There's a vendor next to the enchanting table that sells the item you use

compact knot
#

does it go over cap

#

probably not right

young swan
#

no

inland flame
#

It does

young swan
#

it does contribute to the cap

inland flame
#

Oh nvm thought I read it does

young swan
#

like u cant cap ur aspects and then trade ur wyrms up to aspect

inland flame
#

Ya guess that makes sense

#

I think the conversion is expensive too like 90 old for 15 new I think

#

But obviously still great to have

worldly shard
#

got hero legs / head 🙂

#

2 more pieces to go

inland flame
#

gz

hazy lily
#

is 2/2 worth?

#

breaking old 4

inland flame
#

ST yes, M+ arguable

hazy lily
#

ty ❤️

#

well its 30 ilvl per piee

#

*piece

inland flame
#

Personally I'm doing old 4 in M+ until I get new 4

#

But even with just 2p new build cranks on bosses

flat river
#

With 4-piece, is fury stronger or arms?

young swan
#

they're about the same

#

fury maybe a little bit stronger

strange drift
#

and when i get a drop its like fucking bracers which im gonna make a colection

somber elk
#

You Guys playing with 2x Wafting?

subtle knoll
#

Ya

#

Feels good w new tier set

smoky cloak
#

anyone got raidbots string for siming all runes combinations?

severe cypress
# hazy lily is 2/2 worth?

People hate on it but I'm finding it pretty solid in mplus. Obviously 4 will be a big step up, but 2 piece feels alright and chunks enemies down. I prefer it to the last tier set personally

flat river
#

Wafting not sophic?

somber elk
frail trout
#

Not all pulls are 5 targets either depending on the dungeon

#

Every time that odyn CD does not decrease back to back feels pretty bad

olive wraith
#

I’m just saying the bloodcraze stack will at most go to 1 or 2 kinda making it a waste

#

In aoe situations

olive wraith
frail trout
#

What are you gaining on aoe instead, which talent would be the trade-off?

#

Is it slaughtering strikes?

olive wraith
#

What were you asking about removing for bloodcraze? Idr

#

I’m running massacre

frail trout
#

I wasn't sure what the floater talent would be

#

But pug popular choice is slaughtering strikes

olive wraith
#

I think ss is the floater talent

#

But I really don’t think bloodcraze is worth it

#

You could always sim and see

olive wraith
fading bane
#

can confirm

somber elk
#

Even in aoe?

spare otter
#

my dumbass thought you could use whetstones and rnes

#

only to find out whetstones overwrite the runes

olive wraith
#

Yes I believe in aoe as well

#

Our Korean friend was working on the apl i think and was pretty surprised that wafting showed higher dps

somber elk
#

Im also Wondering, trink haste is my worst stat right now

olive wraith
#

I’m not smarter than robot

#

So idk

somber elk
#

True

olive wraith
#

Me see big number me do

real warren
#

how does one sim hissing and howling runes

median narwhal
#

4P is fun.

olive wraith
#

There’s a string to sim them together. Sorry idk where it is. Otherwise run 2 sims

modest condor
olive wraith
#

Well there you go

#

The brains has entered the chat

modest condor
#

meanwhile wafting just means you can put secondaries in other spots instead

olive wraith
#

Makes sense

spare otter
#

wait you put wafting in both weps?

real warren
olive wraith
#

Ya you can

spare otter
#

maybe i will when i lose haste trinket then

meager void
#

I will sim this 2x wafting for meself and see.

#

would mastery rune also be on the chopping block?

olive wraith
#

So if you have mastery runes you can just shift your gear

#

Accordingly

jolly topaz
#

Can anyone pass the fury warrior single target opener with the new tier set

olive wraith
#

Should be on wowhead

latent hedge
#

good evening, does any fellow warrior have a new version of the khakhan's fury weakaura but updated for T31 build ?

trail bane
#

My sims are still telling me to go sophic mh and wafting oh. But my ilvl is also only 475, maybe in another 10 ilvls or so it could change

edgy widget
#

it's entirely dependent on your stats

real warren
real wedge
#

Any Voodu rituals to get Weapons out of dung chests?

olive wraith
#

I heard if you send Kalaiath-WyrmrestAccord a million gold your next dungeon will drop a wep

trail bane
frail trout
#

this is what I got using SS vs bloodcraze

#

top one is bloodcraze

real warren
frail trout
#

I'm going to try bloodcraze because those occasions where the CD reset doesn't happen can be pretty infuriating if your trying to reset before the next pack

olive wraith
#

Have you tried massacre

frail trout
#

nope

#

it sims a little worse though

#

when I compared all 3 just now

subtle rock
#

What stats are yall putting on crafted gear?

dreamy hemlock
#

How are you all feeling about using S3 2p in raid and m+? It sims a bit higher for me but seen small talkings about it not feeling good. Want some more opinions

olive wraith
#

I think dungeon slice is fine

#

Honestly it really surprises me bloodcraze came out on top

real warren
olive wraith
#

Like statistically bloodcraze is useless

dreamy hemlock
#

hehe well there we have opinions for both 😄

past pivot
olive wraith
#

In aoe*

frail trout
#

I mean I can flip a coin 5 times and not get tails

olive wraith
#

Like if you miss a crit on a cleave. The chances of missing a crit on second cast seems so small

dreamy hemlock
frail trout
#

except now we are talking about a 26% chance

olive wraith
#

Ya but that’s an outlier

frail trout
#

instead of 50% chance

olive wraith
#

Situation

forest owl
#

bm is so stupid atm, im seeing bm's doing 1.5m dps burst on not even very big pulls

olive wraith
#

It’s not 26% though

grave lantern
#

Should i always get a bloodbath before using an enpowered bloodthirst? Like if i have nothing else to gain rage?

olive wraith
grave lantern
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Should i always enpower my next bloodthirst before using a tier set proc?

real warren
latent hedge
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thanks for enlighting

forest owl
gilded pawn
latent hedge
dreamy hemlock
cold ivy
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is single minded fury a meme talent or can it actually work?

past pivot
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Both

cold ivy
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🤔 now im curious

modest condor
wild mural
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my first timed 20 of the season gladge

modest condor
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then again it could also be a good moment to charge weave

grave lantern
real warren
olive wraith
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We use ww in st all the time

dreamy hemlock
frail trout
spare otter
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how do you sim which gem is better?

wild mural
frail trout
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ty

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also noticed in dslice that it was a small gain to swap on a crit ring instead of an older haste/mastery ring

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prob just to juice up roar / odyns fury idk

real warren
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does anyone have the runes sim string? cant find it on the interwebs

past pivot
waxen wave
olive wraith
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Can anyone cook up a way to take AJ and massacre for m+

real warren
chrome plover
# real warren unfortunately not getting anything

temporary_enchant=disabled
flask=disabled

copy="Elemental Chaos"
flask=phial_of_elemental_chaos_3
copy="Tepid Versatility"
flask=phial_of_tepid_versatility_3
copy="Glacial Fury"
flask=phial_of_glacial_fury_3
copy="Corrupting Rage"
flask=iced_phial_of_corrupting_rage_3

copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

someone else can send the OCE string don't have it at hand

clever path
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anything on the anniversary gear?

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anything "busted" good

past pivot
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It's 441. Alt stuff

chrome plover
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i got sword :)

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now time to farm rezans for smolderon

brittle phoenix
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All i need now from m+ is DHT ring