#fury
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Play arms
No
They ww spam
I'm aware
I think its fair to complain about being shoehorned into a spec that changes your playstyle so much if you end up not liking it
But that be the way it do right now
i'm glad to be able to help him pump that dmg
warrior 2nd support spec
That’s what tier sets do they heavily favor one build
XD
Sometimes, not always.
Our tier literally does nothing if you don't play OF
If you don't like OF tough
S1?
Legendary will have to be 15-20% of our dps to even compete with Hunt/DH atm. Don't get me wrong i do hope so, but it's very unlikely.
S2 you were trolling if you didn’t play am
some quick day2 progress
they will get nerfed
That's what i said too about the meta in season 2, look how far it got D:
DH's doing 500k overalls 🙂
Oh sure but I like AM, still getting used to the new build. I understand the problem is still there. But I'm think across classes, too.
Still not like I'm trying to make a huge stink about it. I'll get used to it.
I’m not saying you can’t enjoy one build over the other
But tier set heavily influences build
That’s the point of them
It's just something worth saying. Our class plays completely different compared to last season. It's a huge swap.
So I dont need to feel bad when my hunter friend and dh friend are trumping me in overall?
Not just in talents selected but playstyle.
Zug harder!
Talents influence play style it’s the same thing
Warrior is gonna sit where we are now for forever and people are gonna go "Warrior is fine" when Ret's annihilator equivelant is annihilator but on crack
We're fine bro...
I mean warrior feels fine
Not as much as this for other classes. At least it feels like. Ret's rotation is still really similar to last season for example. And I guess I'm a little jaelous because I like T30 playstyle a lot.
Our single target as fury with 4 set is actually decent
Sitting happy in the middle of the pack with a leggo on the way we are chilling
We've been mid all xpac and we have to break our backs coming up with reasons for why we're fine and should be okay with looking for m+ groups for hours
Push your own key
It's probably more balanced for M+ than Arms. I'm pumping bosses as fury. Obviously it's not anywhere near DH or Rogue damage but we are pumping bosses more then them I find.
Here we go
Can't happen, if anything because that would make us the only BL tank
we have been lower ill take mid damage
Fair
is there a hard cap on mastery for fury?
Only soft caps where you start to lose rating from your gear
Whats bad about being the only BL tank?
Is 483 gorehowl better than a 489 weapon? Sims don't seem to take into consideration the demonbane stat, 483 gorehowl is below 483 ravencrest for me.
Well there are. If you get more than 30% haste on gear haste after that only gives you 90% value, as an example.
@edgy widget
We have 3 tanks with bresses and the rest are sol
Diminishing returns aren’t a soft cap
If robot tells us to out more of a stat we do it
It’s ok for 2p, mostly a “big burst and then do nothing” build
2/2?
I guess I was using the wrong term, but its still a point at which its worth less. It still may be worth more than other things, I realize that.
Take out barbaric training for int shout(aoe stop)
Are the sims correct for Gorehowl? Does it take into consideration the Demonbane stat?
Isn't demonbane only good for like 2 dungeons
I thought it gave extra str always?
Demonbane is more damage to demons
^
I think its supposed to be a bleed proc on only demons or sumn
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=201405/demonbane
It isn't this?
Increases Strength by 200. Increases damage to Demons by 10%. In the Uncategorized Spells category. Added in World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor.
I don’t even know what demonbane does, if anything useful
I’m gonna guess it isn’t +200str
That’s a skill
It’s not a skill
It’s a stat
I think that's the proc off of the Garrosh heirloom trinket
As stated before, I've seen comments saying that it procs a bleed on demons
The Gorehowl stat, that is
Demonsbane is just attack power vs demons
Same
Maybe gorehowl simming less than ravencrest because ravencrest has better stats for you currently
Not attack power and not str
Just weird that It says +293 demonsbane
Fined Gorehowl in that post
Striking a demon with melee abilities has a chance to rend their flesh, dealing Physical damage over 5 sec. In the Uncategorized Spells category.
On demons
Ahhh okay, thank you. I thought the reason people wanted it was because demonbane gave more than just damage to demons. Guess it's just the stats
U do want the extra dmg
Can second that i have one its just a random blead on daemons that do x amount of damage works in brh
I mean demonbane IS extra damage
its really not much but its there
But only good for a couple dungeons
Its there at no extra cost or downside
its on a drip as fuck wepon 2
Only reason you wouldnt want gorehowl is you dont like the other secondary stats
Someone who joined Skyhold 2 days ago is dooming about furry.
What a unique and fresh take.
Think they joined and left
They were frustrated earlier in the week about the rotation
Idr which day
Its our Odyn given right to doom LUL
Our dad isn't even cool anymore ice lady beat him up 
Odyn was never cool
I thought the whole thing about him going incognito in Stormheim was neat at least
Anyone got a nice weakaura?
But we will flex on them for having it 
Dude, that scene made my day. Odyn's a cword.
Yes, it says "Yes, Chef!" when a ready check happens
Odyn's Fury tho, that's stonks
Who knows? They're both still in P2 right?
Not today i don’t think
Between 1-1,100 days
Echo are close to p3
Ok so 2-3 business days
No clue, i sim about 189k, but i hit like a wet pool noodle - Just did 110k overall. Not optimal with 456 ilvl.
I think late tomorrow
Haven't looked today but Liquid had a really good last pull last night
Or early Sunday
how are u simming 189k in 456
Must be aoe
shit im not simming that in 471 the fuck am i doing wrong
Scroll up or search Plumber. Easy and fast hack tech
oh true
DS, and its 459**
I have plumber
but like
189 sounds like a dungeon slice to me
Because I'm 474 and simming 192k
Fastest way I've found, tbh
man now im checking my sim
And Plumber is fastest per hour
Felt big for once
top melee spec confirmed, cope and seethe everyone else
Hell yeah boys we pissin
Hmmm
4 set?
guys what do we craft im so clueless about this exp
Do I farm for Rezan or just get it in my vault
I need to farm weapon I haven't had any drop from raid or m+
Check the pins and guides
can I give/receive a raid loot from a player of the opposite faction?
guys sorry for offtop but what graphic setting can affect visibility of this line from Fel Vormit (BRH) ? It just always invisible for me
anyone wanna take a look at log of a AD 20 I did? i'm at 471 ilvl equipped and I parsed 67. I must be doing something really wrong man. i have no idea what. best enchants, best pots, correct rotation (most of the times I guess)
Yes, as long as they were in your raid and active in the boss kill.
After the kill we've quit the raid, and joined in a group, went to Valdrakken and in the attempt to trade it displays: "Target is unfriendly"
just wondering if it's really not possible to trade, or we must fulfill the condition, like being in the raid instance
maybe it was the group bit should have been able to trade
You have to get back into a Dungeon then
You can’t trade cross faction outside the instance
Doesnt matter which
Fly to Ruby and walk inside, then you can trade
This
You may be pressing your burst in the wrong order.
Their is a method to the madness.
you need to be in any instance. Most people fly from Vald to RLP to zone in and trade
yes, it worked once we've got into a raid, thank you
about OF and Avatar interaction.
In concrete terms, is the play in order:
- Cast OF
- 2xfillers/spender
- Cast Avatar
?
It suppose to have a line huh?
Ya I never see the line and I play on full ultra, think it's just bugged or somethin
how much of a dps increase is 4set?
Depends on if you're comparing it to old 4p or new 2p, also what situation you're in.
Looking at the rotation part of the guide; am I correct in assuming we always spend bloodbath and execute before rampage? Even when rage capped?
This seems bugged because it's always invisible for me but it was visible once during a fight
Man sometimes when i play fury, i zone out and forget WW.
Rampage before exe
So the prio is BB > Rampage > Execute
so... is vaskarn bugged? got the wyrm achievment but cant find a trade up crest option. just wondering if anyone else has ran into this?
hey guys, i wondered if in m+, i use avater and odyns fury instantly or if i stagger odyns fury for the dot uptime. One side wants me to stagger it for the dot, the other to use instantly for the cdr. any idea whats better? NVM i found it.
What even when rage capped?
so which is it? BB > exec or ramp ?
you only favor Rampage if enrage is down
Yeah, specifically when rage capped
If it's inconsequential, then I guess you only rampage before that for enrage?
How much mastery do i want?
As much as robot says
ok to be precise about what APL says, its:
BB > Exec to consume Ashen > Rampage > Exec w/o ashen
THIS IS AN OLD APL AND WRONG FOR CURRENT
OF first for CDR you can hit Ava after the OF dot falls, so you should be safe to send it to refresh WW stacks
There's isn't a set amount of a stat you want. It all depends on your gear, your set up, talents, etc. That's why the sim is important.
man i wish they would do some rework / changes to talents.. like crushing force / overwhelming rage 1 talent point only.. for arms and fury its so little dmg for 2 points
(2nd fury key)
in easy terms, Exec>Rampage when Ashen Juggernaut is up (which makes Exec show proc glow)
and that being the case, this should be updated for precision
Tf is ashen
Oh
oh wait, this part is wrong. Ashen Juggernaut does not give proc glow. That's Sudden Death.
so basically, we could use an Ashen tracker to min-max Execute
For ease of use assume it’s up only in execute range
yeah wait, Ashen is almost always up only on exec phase
Only in execute range
and it's really just saying prio exe over ramp during execute phase if you're talented into ashen
Above 35% health SD is too infrequent to maintain AJ
but then whats the prio not in execute? Ramp>Exec or Exec>Ramp
I believe you mean Ramp>Exec before execute phase and Exec>Ramp on execute phase, correct?
if you're talented into AJ yes
keep in mind that there are conditions in the rampage line too
you're not just comparing with rampage, you're comparing with rampage above 110 rage
wait why are you using an old APL
Think of SD procs as highest prio filler
the APL you're using is from before the patch even went live
Not worth tracking, it’ll maintain itself in 99% of situations
It's the one I had, but if its wrong then let me clear that
Isnt this the contrary to what @modest condor is saying?
this
I think he means in execute phase
No?
oh, alright
I said it’ll maintain itself, not that it’ll always be up
If you can’t maintain it over 35% anyway, then tracking it is a non-factor
Yea I felt good reaching that
still need smoly boy trink
Then I realised I'll still get out DPS by hunter, DH, etc
I think I got it now, thx Archi.
well hunter and DH are broken in keys what can you do
Is the BiS list on WH still accurate? I saw a few people here saying legs would be the off-set piece, but the WH list shows helmet as the off-set piece:
i mean i pulled 216K overall in a 17 BRH before i got my upgraded neck
Or is it close enough to not matter?
Sorry if this has been answered already, looked through pins/FAQ and found the old build for Single-minded fury. How would you set it up for the new build once you have T31? I know its not as good as TG, just someone I enjoy as an alt
Is there an easy way to sim wich rune is best to use on your weapons?
Ya there should be an option towards the bottom in top gear
I was having this discussion within my guild the other day. BiS is a rather non-sensical term in the days of simcraft. However, it's still a good moniker to represent when a piece is huge for someone during loot distribution
Probably drop slaughtering strikes
This. It's not about aiming to specific pieces, but about making informed decisions when multiple people could use the same item.
Hey @edgy widget with 4 set reducing the OF cd… will we want to delay anything to make sure the 2nd cast of reckless to make sure that and OF realign? I’m just curious if it would be ready to align as it currently does without 4set
Informed decisions =droptimizer
yeah i can chose wich rune i want, but it wont let the sim chose right? So i will need to sim each option separately?
Can’t you select multiple?
no, have to sim each by their own
Oof
there's strings you can input in advanced sim
The default is hissing, IIRC. So you'd have to run multiple for each type.
Well there you go I guess lol
sadlly no
but hissing is mostly what you will always want unless your gear is funky
Or hissing and howing
cool, ill have to do some sims then i guess 😄
there's a string somewhere that lets you test all food, runes, flask, etc
That allows for simming between the different runes in a single sim?? If so I'd love to hear more.
Is there anything like that for simming last season's Essence? I haven't replaced mine yet and would love to not have to run 4-5 different sims to find out which flight bonus is best for my current gear.
Yes, you want to align as much as possible but what you delay will be dependent on encounter timing
can we add sockets to other items like we do for neck piece?
With the vault item, yes
with the item that you get by not taking a piece of gear from vault
Not freely
yup, exactly. There was one for OCE. One sim, all flights
ooof
I would guess at most OF just gets delayed a few seconds as reck is starting to come off CD
this it the one for all flaks, rune, etc
holy moly, I wish I had known that.
despite my earlier view of the tier set i actually quite like the rotation change
do we actually sim higher with less haste
it seems like all the gear that has haste isn't an upgrade for me
in ST
Where would you add this in raidbots?
paste the string at the end of advanced sim
Ah, so not usable with top gear?
nope, but lets you test the bests consumables with your current gear
blizz too, no one uses I think
Cool, I'll see if I can find that OCE string somewhere as well. Google is failing me for the moment.
oh ok thats weird
Search OCE string here and you'll find it
is crit trash with new 4p?
It has being posted 1000 times
Looks like this is it.
No we like all stats
ppl want 489ilvl dudes in +11s?
anyone else feel like intimidating shout does fuck all in keys
For crafting, it's bracer and cloak both with shadowflame patch right?
Stats being? haste+mast?
It's definitely not as good as other forms of cc, but can help in a pinch. You'd usually want to rely on shockwave/stormbolt
It's great for aoe casting cancles
Other than that it sucks
int shout is great

if by int you mean running it down mid
Is your spell reflect aura on your stream still?
I Wana steal it
fury st is illegal
membering the good ol days when we had a 45sec cd actual aoe interrupy and a pain suppression to put on people and a really good raidwide damage cooldown
We have a 45sec aoe stop
oya sure and stuns are great but Int Shout was an actual interrupt so it could handle stun-immune stuff too
I basically solod poison volley interrupts for my guild on Horridon lol
MoP kits were insane
i'm really excited to test this might of the ocean rn
also shout out to people who trade trinkets w people who need
For crafting, it's bracer and cloak both with shadowflame patch right?
Or cloak with shadowflame and Allied bracers?
Stats being? haste+mast? crit+haste (so it can be used as prot as well)?
Run gear compare, duplicate gear set and change it from haste maste to haste verse, verse maste, etc for each duplicated one
Haste mast is probably a safe bet though
By the time it will really change up you can just plug it through gems or other slots that you’re still working on
Yoo whats up, can someone explain me what T30 and T31 means?
Nice codpiece
only thing missing is a tpose for dominance

Beautiful

atal dazar seems pretty free
found a matrix glitch
interesting

tank must be crying for bshout
Thought I was going to do way worse than blaster classes
what ilvl?
465
as all the years before 🙂 bring player / good chars .. not the class
hunt/pally were 470
Guys. Is there a weak aura to show the BT/BB 100% crits remaining?!
just copy pasta another weakaura and edit the trigger spell ID 
try searching "furious bloodthirst" on wago
Bloodthirst shines by default when you have furious bloodthirst tho
i just made my BT icon glow yellow if tier stacks remain and green if stacks remain and RA is preset it also kachings 
so during cds its 6x kaching 
I need help I have the 4 set bonus and im at ilvl 450 but what stats do i prio and how do i up my dps? its not where it should be is what im told
dont think it does that for weakauras
just get more gear
generally anything with mastery will be good
right now my mastery is 37%
But I mean, why even use a weakaura to track it? bloodthirst on the action bar shines when you have furious bloodthirst
When does mastery dr for fury
not everyone uses action bars to track abilities
Increases your damage done when enraged
You didn't understand
Oh yeah freaks who use wa to replace the whole thing. Forgot about that kek
DR starts at like 5400 i think
how much % is that?
guys how can we sim which weapon rune is best for us?
Oh I misread that lol
like 56%, dont take that to heart, mastery is still our best stat past the DR
Thank you!
yep
:)
Disrupting shout, not Int
Also…. If we have the bloodthirst buff up, but no bloodbath due to rampage not available, should i use up a guaranteed crit or should I use slam/WW?
true 💯
Try to avoid using tier stack in bt
Y'all better recognize the only good WA kit
(ignore arms spec)
Ty
Arms bad
arms 
@meager gyro is that your own WA/elvui set?
Oh is that atrocity’s UI?
The only atrocity here is arms chat in fury channel
It is Atrocity's
hey i got the omni token for 2k rio, if i buy the elite pvp item can i upgrade it without rating?
in m+ is it better to play slaughtering strikes over skullcraze
i dont play either
fresh meat db best m+ build
why would u play fresh meat
im fiddling with massacre atm
reck charge u have enough for ramp and if u dont u can just odyns
you dont always have reck
to enrage, dancing blades doesn't enrage you
but yeah he mentioned dancing blades
db owns
wasting 10 seconds to generate enough rage sucks
i played a key with db on accident once
didnt even notice it
im just used to enraging before odyns
will def try it
the amount of st damage is kinda crazy
idk my st in keys is just nuts
the part i love the most
is just
executing mobs
in a pack
in a 23
mid pack they are like 35%
odyns
bb
25%
I love massacre
Really smooths out sub 35 health
ramp bb 15% ramp bb dead
Why does the tier chest piece have flared sleeves, so weird
cloth plate hybrid lookin ass
Wish we could swing Aj in m+
twitch sub to atrocity and you get it, has a super handy installer and most the addons I already would use. I only install bagnon and auctionator on top of the ones from it.
post odyn/avatar we BT first yes?
so that you get BT -> Ramp -> BB-> ramp -> BB
instead of Ramp -> BB -> Ramp -> BB ?
no, coz then you empower the bt instead of bb
Why waste furious bloodthirst on bt instead of bb
I got 2 t31 set should I use them or stay with 4 set t30 till I get 4 set t31?

Is going arms better in this or just stay fury?
Yes, but play what you like more there are very close
Awesome ty❤️
I love 2/2 fury
Arms is other channel
i dont know what is happening to my warr but my dps is terrible
im fury
im just saying jeje
im on right know
and you
?
right now im 22% crit 30 % haste 47% mastery and 17 vers
471 item level
What are you simming vice what are you doing?
Also we talking st or aoe
Got logs in the log review channel?
Definitely not the stats
quick question about the 4p, if I hit BT and hit 5 targets and all 5 BThits are crits. does that all go towards the CD reduction to OF or just the primary hit
just the one
fury or arms better rn?
arms, since you asked in fury chat
quick question, does this quest usually give Renacent Dream (catalyst) from the chest ?
reck > charge > of > spear > when of goes on cd from dancing blades then you pop Avatar
and then spam rampage > bb
Yea it's a weird interaction since ava also activates of
Gotta get it on cd so you don't waste
^ yup
Idk if it's WeakAuras or what it would be but is there anything for the UI that lets me track whether or not I'm enraged?
Also if it's possible to have something track my Whirlwind status so it's easier to tell when to use it again. I'm just learning (new to WoW in-general) so wanting this at least for now to make sure I'm keeping both up sufficiently
Whats a fastt way to farm flighstones, i have all crests but no stones
Low keys
If you are looking for rotation addon hekili is usually the recommended one
u wanna ramp before of cause u dont have enrage otherwise
There’s a lot of wa that do this
Both of them?
I just make a habit of ramp before hit hits
I'm not even sure if I need to, just want to be 100% sure I'm keeping both up as I should to ensure I'm not doing something stupid and losing DPS
I was checking a few m+ logs I did last night and enrage uptime was like 80%
After bleed/db so about 4 seconds
You’ll lose some db time but it’s better to send avatar
once the dot falls off
we do
bb is most of our damage
The tier stacks to 6
i reck charge ramp of spear bb ramp bb ramp bb ava ramp bb ramp ava
So you don’t lose the buffed bb
aah nice
and then just continue bb-ing
and rampaging
luxthos weak aura has whirlwind charges bar and a enrage bar
++21BRH let's go 
Brh best dungeon
Was annoying last week but seems to be a cakewalk this week
I just made my own, didn't realize how easy it was xd
But thanks!
just have these on screen to tell me if enrage/timer and if whirlwind stacks/timer
👍
m+ is very easy this season and we are not even max strength yet, id expect to see some very high keys timed this season
We 3060 now bois we gaaaamin
Rise is ass
Inflation is real
Kinda good that 20s are easier though
Just wish they add more cosmetic rewards for 25 and 30s. Could really use an extra motivation.
anyone on eu wanna armor stack farm throne trinket?
Is there a clear preference on what WA to use for abilities?
I think people also struggle with AD last boss in higher keys
im seeing people in high keys do the bfa s1 strat
where you soak spiders
which is so weird
there's a reason nobody did that for the rest of the expansion
soaking spiders just creates area denial
on top of making people spread all over the place which spreads out the chasing spiders more
if you do the proper strat it's a complete joke of a fight
Fury is good
people on the ptr were dooming too hard
it's true that with OF on cooldown you dont do much damage, but the cooldown is so low you'll pretty much always get it up on a pack
pugs didnt manage to do it after 2yrs of bfa
doubt they will now
Got rezan's trinky, not sure if it's better than what I'm using
What do you have
Does bitter immunity remove Bursting stacks?
I don’t think so
So as Orc im just 100% dependend on healer?
Burst is magic, Bitter is diseases, poisons and curses.
Spell reflect reduces its damage, and you can heal yourself or use comsumes. But otherwise yes.
aight, thank you
it does not
go dwarf
stoneform op
Swapping to d stance helps too
are the wowhead dps rankings worth worrying over?
i saw fury was bottom and was a bit worried
you guys in here probably pumping either way 🤔
where is fury on the bottom?
Public perception can be trouble for pugging but Fury dam is fine
apologies i might be thinking of the mid week report they posted
yeah it was this post mb
Got my 4P 😄
also even looking at the data with half the people still using s2 gear and thinking it's gonna be accurate for the next weeks
sus
good point
surely week 1 and week 2 dps rankings are gonna define the season
joewari da
Fury is at the bottom :woo:
if im pugging what would be the best time to rally on heroic fyrakk
🪵
Whenever you feel in danger
I think I was rallying during intermission or smthn
survival hunter deserve their spot up there :grr
Just be better
I done 22 runs, still no loot, trust - the loot will come, you need only to be lucky once
im ilvl 460 equipped rn but I am using s2 4p
im at 3p s3 but i'll only switch when I have 4
i got hero neck/hero legs/champ 470ring / 467champ boots / champ wrist
First in line for leggo 
and the prot warr bis 1hand
from fyrakk
neck/legs are useless
cuz embelishements
Neck isn’t useless
if I get a heroic tier piece I am going up +8ilvl equipped instantly
Neither are legs
neck and legs?
i have torc
that's not an embell
You crafted torc first?
i have that from s2
So how is the 470 bad
ill be recrafting legs/wrist to 486 with shadowflame
Don’t do legs
cloak?
yes
Yes if you’re doing double patch wrist/cloak
interrogative: been running the new recommended annihilator build in raid and having great results. but have been nervous about moving it to mythic+, maybe just because of the long whirlwind cooldown. How have other people's results been? Still able to pump?
WW CD is like 3-4 seconds
considering ill have 2charges of catalyst + vault(+17-18)
More than enough time
and ksm next week
thats a speedrun lol
only day2 so far into the season
4pc just like that
do items that are potential tier pieces keep their sockets if you catalyse them?
ty
stats
would it be good to pull some talent from the m+ build to get bloodcraze? I'm not always getting the CD reduction to odyns fury on my bloodthirst casts
Feels great imo. Some ppl said its clunky but naaaah. With 4p i feel like just spamming OF 24/7 and the CD on WW isnt notice able because you are consuming the aoe stacks anyways ^^
No
Bloodcraze drops in value for aoe because you already have a high chance to crit on one of your cleaves
This
2.5
And 2nd Catalyst Charge
I mean with only 26% crit chance without reck up
I do not feel like its being reduced consistently
thats using a crit flask also
got 0pc atm, still running old 4pc
going from 0pc to 4pc in minimal time seems nuts
lol
I have 20 ish and dont feel that way
got hero legs atm, gonna aim for helm/chest/hands
maybe lucky in vault
just need 1x more 17
You have a 26% chance on 5 targets. That means you have a very very high chance to crit on at least one mob
I’ve got a hero avoidance legs I might cata
I have hero chest and legs, got hero gloves I can cata on Tues. But gonna have to buy fourth with a normal curio I have.
Still haven't done heroic yet this week tho.
I got those but myth track with avoidance so i turned them into yier legs
However im on a dry streak for weapons. Still rocking 447x2 weaps 😦
how good is the autoattack fire damage neck from the anniversary event
Probably decent but doesn’t it cap at low ilvl
What's like the max amount of time you would hold Reck to line up with Odyns
I see the wowhead guide says like 10% of cd so like 9-12 seconds at most?
im on day2
might be good with the rings from vault
small upgrades
i feel like its so hard to get into keys as a fury warrior QQ.
i just run my own
double chesting most 17s 18s
Go as prot to inflate your io
i just deplete them into 17-18
idk how to tank :/ im a unga bunga dps only
should get to 2.5k next week
maybe ill time all 20s tomorrow
will see
just need some weapon drops
dungeons feel ez
roidstack, is that you?
uh. im roidragerick o.o
I mean the gangster
oh
gone but not forgotten, may he eat plain chicken with rice in discord heaven
Nelth 16 never forget
Dang we lost him too?
rip sodiepop
is the stat prio with tier 2/4 set bonus still haste>master>crit>vers? someone in my guild was saying it changes and haste isn't good anymore with tier
spend crests on gorehowl upgrade or on crafting wrists?
Have you gotten both free enchanted wyrm crests?
no just one
there's 2 free ones?
wheres the other from?
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quick question : how the fuck do i make it so when i press 1 key it casts odyns fury and roar later
I just really like my V key for odyns fury but i also have roar and it throws me off
and im bad at macros
I'm at 12 rep atm
You don’t
Just put them on two different buttons
Or if you really can’t be bothered shift+same button
Keep forgetting to use WW, smacked a big fat weakaura in the middle of the screen, hope my overall dps goes up in dungeons 😄
My thoughts: "one two three four ww one two three four ww"
Probably something like "/castsequence reset=[seconds] Odyn's Fury, Thunderous Roar", replace [seconds] with how many seconds later you want to roar, don't include the []
That will cast Odyn's then roar with 2 clicks of the same button, and reset the sequence x seconds later
hahahaha, i feel ya!
the rotation feel shitty to anybody else with 2p2p ?
can't relate won the roll on two tokens 
2p2p is good for ST, but kinda painful for M+. I've been using old 4p until I get my last piece of new tier.
yeah in m+ the cds are so loooong
Feels fine to me
Been having a blast in m+
Idk i always get targeted by boss shit, so they are up when i get back to pumping
The problem is without OF you don't do that good cleave dam with our new build and you don't have OF often enough without 4p in M+.
arm
Oops wrong one
Is this also the reason why i do about 40k less than my sims in overall dps? 😮
Well your sims don't have 4p either, but they also don't factor in the chaos and downtime of a real dungeon.
it feels kind of classic-esque in the sense that you spam like 2 buttons
and do big numbers
cant crit more than 300k 😮
with 4p in execute phase I don't know when to use execute because you can chain Rampage and Bloodbath again and again until the rage runs out
is it correct to only use it for rage generation?
In m+?
Think its BB > Exe > rampage in execute phase
ye
Can someone pls explain why we would take shockwave over more TR ?
I realize its utility, its it seems like quite a big dmg loss
did 275k overall in a darkheart 19
and pug shitters dont use their utility most of the time
shit kinda cranks
Ex is top filler in m+
4p?
ye
Gotta remember when playing with 2p, that power you feel when you OF, you get that wayyyy more often with 4p.
ofc
i didnt bother going with 2p2p fury in m+
just went arms until 4p and didnt look back
Tier 30 4p over tier 31 2p?
Ya I tried it in a AD 18 and it was kinda awful. Went straight back to T30 4p.
t30 4p > t31 2p2p in m+ atleast
We wouldnt Even Play more cd reduction
Disagree
in raid t31 2p2p cranks
ok you can like it but it doesnt do nearly as much damage
Just feels wayyyy too weak when you're waiting for OF
maybe on bosses it owns
Late to the party, i only have tier 31 2p 😮
why not ?
Not That Good without ravager
Is simming dungeon slice valid for aoe or do we only sim for ST?
Can I put embelishment on non cratfed items ?
No.
Since crafted items are not the highest ilvl, how do they compare ?
dslice is fine
since you can compensate with embelishment
Cheers Fury
You just use embel on lowest stat distribution
They're worse because of the ilvl thing, that's why we perfer wrists and cloak since they have the smallest stat budget, so we miss out on the least stats.
Aka cape/wrists
Also in general be careful on crafting enchanted aspect crests early its less efficient than upgrading hero+ gear.
^
May he *drink plain chicken
upgrading my sword, trinket and helmet was 4k more dps over grabbing a 486 shadowflame cloak
60 aspect crests for 1.2k dps gain kinda bad ngl
prio upgrading one weapon fully with crests, the weapon after that will only take flightstones
Imagine getting a second weapon
How do i upghrade crests now ?
havent had the same luck with DHT jewerly though
Ya I'm strugglin a little I have a max champ Gorehowl but I haven't gotten a hero weap yet.
Can you not buy higher crests once you can the lower ones now?
I mean this
you can
wait huh
There's a vendor next to the enchanting table that sells the item you use
no
It does
it does contribute to the cap
Oh nvm thought I read it does
like u cant cap ur aspects and then trade ur wyrms up to aspect
Ya guess that makes sense
I think the conversion is expensive too like 90 old for 15 new I think
But obviously still great to have
gz
ST yes, M+ arguable
Personally I'm doing old 4 in M+ until I get new 4
But even with just 2p new build cranks on bosses
With 4-piece, is fury stronger or arms?
I like doing my +19's with a 430 oh and 440 mh https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585554878030676003.webp?size=48&name=KeK&quality=lossless
and when i get a drop its like fucking bracers which im gonna make a colection
You Guys playing with 2x Wafting?
anyone got raidbots string for siming all runes combinations?
People hate on it but I'm finding it pretty solid in mplus. Obviously 4 will be a big step up, but 2 piece feels alright and chunks enemies down. I prefer it to the last tier set personally
Wafting not sophic?
Isnt haste pretty Bad now?
Statistically sure yes you should crit but that number is still susceptible to low rolling 5 times it's not that unlikely
Not all pulls are 5 targets either depending on the dungeon
Every time that odyn CD does not decrease back to back feels pretty bad
I’m just saying the bloodcraze stack will at most go to 1 or 2 kinda making it a waste
In aoe situations
Dude get weps from emerald dream
What are you gaining on aoe instead, which talent would be the trade-off?
Is it slaughtering strikes?
I wasn't sure what the floater talent would be
But pug popular choice is slaughtering strikes
I think ss is the floater talent
But I really don’t think bloodcraze is worth it
You could always sim and see
People at higher ilvls are simming wafting>sophic
can confirm
Even in aoe?
my dumbass thought you could use whetstones and rnes
only to find out whetstones overwrite the runes
Yes I believe in aoe as well
Our Korean friend was working on the apl i think and was pretty surprised that wafting showed higher dps
Im also Wondering, trink haste is my worst stat right now
True
how does one sim hissing and howling runes
4P is fun.
There’s a string to sim them together. Sorry idk where it is. Otherwise run 2 sims
we get more base str > the % increase of sophic goes down
we lose hurricane > the value of a str proc goes down
meanwhile wafting just means you can put secondaries in other spots instead
Makes sense
wait you put wafting in both weps?
ye
Ya you can
maybe i will when i lose haste trinket then
I will sim this 2x wafting for meself and see.
would mastery rune also be on the chopping block?
I think this would also apply to runes
So if you have mastery runes you can just shift your gear
Accordingly
Can anyone pass the fury warrior single target opener with the new tier set
Should be on wowhead
good evening, does any fellow warrior have a new version of the khakhan's fury weakaura but updated for T31 build ?
My sims are still telling me to go sophic mh and wafting oh. But my ilvl is also only 475, maybe in another 10 ilvls or so it could change
it's entirely dependent on your stats
460 here and using double Wafting
Any Voodu rituals to get Weapons out of dung chests?
I heard if you send Kalaiath-WyrmrestAccord a million gold your next dungeon will drop a wep
How does your secondary stats look? Also are you using t31 4p?
dungeon slice APL is updated right? I think I read that anyway
this is what I got using SS vs bloodcraze
top one is bloodcraze
T30 4P, 29% crit, 32% haste, 50% Mast
I'm going to try bloodcraze because those occasions where the CD reset doesn't happen can be pretty infuriating if your trying to reset before the next pack
Have you tried massacre
What stats are yall putting on crafted gear?
How are you all feeling about using S3 2p in raid and m+? It sims a bit higher for me but seen small talkings about it not feeling good. Want some more opinions
I think dungeon slice is fine
Honestly it really surprises me bloodcraze came out on top
I love it for both
not having the full 4p feelsbadman imo
Like statistically bloodcraze is useless
hehe well there we have opinions for both 😄
I went Arms 2p+2p until getting T31 4p then swapped back
In aoe*
I mean I can flip a coin 5 times and not get tails
Like if you miss a crit on a cleave. The chances of missing a crit on second cast seems so small
what is it you dont like? is it just as simple as not having the cd on OF is making it less attractive than the S2 ravager build`?
except now we are talking about a 26% chance
Ya but that’s an outlier
instead of 50% chance
Situation
bm is so stupid atm, im seeing bm's doing 1.5m dps burst on not even very big pulls
It’s not 26% though
Should i always get a bloodbath before using an enpowered bloodthirst? Like if i have nothing else to gain rage?
what is a bloodbath ?

right on the money, 4p bonus is just needed imo, not being able to get that CD down fast just bothers me
thanks for enlighting
it's that thing that megan fox takes
yeah both SS and bloodcraze franklin kinda suck nuts
haha right
how is the dps tho? I imagine it might not be that bad in raids for ST but that it can get fucked fast depending on pulls etc for m+
is single minded fury a meme talent or can it actually work?
Both
🤔 now im curious
you should avoid using it on an unempowered bt at all costs but if it's either bt or press nothing you should use it on bt
my first timed 20 of the season 
then again it could also be a good moment to charge weave
thats what ive been doing, would you WW ST to try to get enough rage?
St is really good, the M+ pulls and such can get bad
We use ww in st all the time
alright cheers for the talk. not that stressed so will probably wait and hope for good tier set in next vault and then get 4p
which dungeon out of curiosity?
how do you sim which gem is better?
everbloom
ty
also noticed in dslice that it was a small gain to swap on a crit ring instead of an older haste/mastery ring
prob just to juice up roar / odyns fury idk
does anyone have the runes sim string? cant find it on the interwebs
I found it by searching "hissing"
Select the gems at the bottom of top gear
Can anyone cook up a way to take AJ and massacre for m+
unfortunately not getting anything
temporary_enchant=disabled
flask=disabled
copy="Elemental Chaos"
flask=phial_of_elemental_chaos_3
copy="Tepid Versatility"
flask=phial_of_tepid_versatility_3
copy="Glacial Fury"
flask=phial_of_glacial_fury_3
copy="Corrupting Rage"
flask=iced_phial_of_corrupting_rage_3
copy="Primal Whetstone -> Attack Power"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3/off_hand:primal_whetstone_3
copy="Buzzing Rune -> Crit"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3/off_hand:buzzing_rune_3
copy="Howling Rune -> Haste"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3/off_hand:howling_rune_3
copy="Hissing Rune -> Mastery"
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3
someone else can send the OCE string don't have it at hand
It's 441. Alt stuff
Thanks Chawie
no problem
i got sword :)
now time to farm rezans for smolderon
