#fury
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ok nice thank u
stats ? with
Let me log on and check
stats doesnt matched spec rly. no tierset but goes ilvl. and is it
whats the name of the cloak we craft?
u had dancing blades on ur logs
link src?
ops
his logs
yeah link
i think i outdid that on 451
does raging blow not exist in macro icons? ive been looking for 10m
u are cooking my brother
some1 take the food off the stove
btw
shit about to burn
no clue
maybe it doesnt when u have annik
since u remove raging blow
its replaced
oh yea
i mean its in there somewhere for sure
early logs that got locked in which is fair enough
but yeah you are severely griefing your opener
sounds like it 😛
and why are you slamming instead of bting
you all use spear for m+? the wowhead builds use tr. much difference damage wise?
were just saying ur missing out on legit like almost 1m damage
yes, much better gameplay too
tr is better for m+
Spear in m+ is trolling
no one uses spear in m+
^
Spear would be massive if it wasn't for damage reduction target cap I'd imagine
BRO where tf is this raging blow icon I dont wanna see slam on my action bars
it feels good to me apart from the rare odd moment there's nothing to press. even then that's probably on me if anything.
Create a macro for it, duh
slamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslamslam 
thats what hes doing, duh
u can try to do #showtooltip Raging Blow
buti doubt itd work since u dont have the ability
wouldn't work
no It doesnt sadly
im aware
i just wrote that
I have bad eyes or something but ive been searching for 15m+
try making the macro while you don't have annihalator talented
im p sure it puts all your "known" abilities and owned items at the top
anyone else feeling like the new 4set is kinda weak?
relative to what
Use onslaught icon lel
thats what im thinking lol
the last season 4set and build
@rugged tartan also no, relative to ur character's progression ur damage on nymue wasnt great at all
on what metric? even with my shit build im simming more than 50k dps higher and consistently doing like 60k+ more dps
which means that fundamentally u did something wrong in that fight
it's pretty solid tbf
i like it more than i expected
you too good for me ragish sorry im not in echo.. wtf? why are you after me like this? 😛 hahaha
yeah same
i have been using the old 4set up until yesterday and now i feel like, even with the higher ilvl and kinda better stats, i feel weak af
why are u being so defensive dude
im not?
yes, u are
are you looking at dps meters compared to DH's or what
ive said i might do something wrong and i can learn
could be just a skill issue idk xd
but you just say i do bad?
ur being sarcastic about me pointing out that u didnt play well rather than accepting it and saying ok ill improve/what should i do
or flat out say that u dont care
i never said u did bad, i said that relative to where ur character is at, u didnt perform well
calling me a top player/echo gamer or some shit
aka doing bad 
hahaha
doesnt matter man im being civil about it and trying to point out the mistake for example as we discussed with u using unenraged odyns fury
and u decided to say "well i still get good logs"
no worries I got shit on yesterday for being bad as well
i get shit on all the time
It's a staple here
whenever i die i know my guild wants to gkick me
most of us are bad
yea i still got good logs so i didnt know i did it that wrong..
Have to wait for next week's raid but just hit 4p yesterday and only 470 but my Fury sims are just squeaking past Arms' now.
cuz ur looking at ur overall log and not per ilvl/comparing to other warriors at ur gear
nah but like my own dps feels lower than it should be, probably havent been using cds at the right times idk
pointless to see how u compare to people when it compares vs warriors that are like 450 ilvl
or no 4p
i m,ean it's a completely new rotation so you're still just learning it
Doesnt look like it, I use this btw https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/larger-macro-icon-selection
no syi he straight up just casted odyns unenraged
his opener was charge reck slam whirlwind odyns in a ST fight
doesnt matter mate.. im bad i dont do the opener right..
Sorry mr. 100 log for your ilvl.
hope you get a good tier
wait no reck
bro, I've probably done some u enraged odyns myself wanting to smash that burst too soon yano. it's good to know and remember.
unenraged*
yeah thats all im sayin
i even wrote i whiff it here and there and i wanna kms when i do
he just wrote that by enraging he wastes a bt stack
like, if u rampage>odyns "u waste a gcd not pressing bb"
see again i dont understand why do u feel the need to sarcastically make me sound like im being condescending or being a prick
nah i was talking to someone else
what stats should i put on my cloak?
Just do what we all did with ravager and macro reck to it
big
@wild mural do we want to cast ava after 4 sec for dot or after 10s for dancing blades?
for ST
i cast it as the avatar buff drops
so how does execute get used now? use when its up ignoring all prio except tier bb?
bb > exe > ramp > bt > slam
ah cool i weaved it in correctly
fuck slam all my homies hate slam
the only correct one is the make sure you dont drop avatar
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/77792465#difficulty=4 guys help me do more dmg
tindral i died it doesnt count
ik what to do there i think
pad right? 
so it'd be after 4s
no?
yes

I edited an existing odyn's fury tracker to track avatar
why 2p sims me less
because its 2p and not 4p
HUGE
Does new Play style become smoother with 4p and more OF casts? It seems like it's lacking something with 2p
yes
😦 so i cant equip ultin i have 4p
Well .. 2nd catalyst becomes available next week right?
yes
4p massively helps you reset OF cooldown.
Can someone help me understand why the m+ build is running Slaughtering Strikes but the Raid Cleave build is running Bloodcraze?
Feels like Bloodcraze should be better in m+ as well?
Good, it will give me 4o
It's nice when normal bloodthirsts crit and reduce cd as well
bloodcraze does nothing on aoe
It’s basically a wasted talent in aoe situations
It gives more OF resets though, which is huge for aoe
raid cleave is still about killing the boss
Bro,
#showtooltip Raging Blow
doesn't work
how do u guys find guilds?
I want to raid mythic but its so hard to find a decent guild
It's been really hard for me to pop CDs at the right time, it used to be easier
its close enough
Here
The raging blow icon goes away when you talent into annihilator
guys hows might of the ocean for fury?
all our abilities are red and yet slam is purple disgusting
Maybe don’t stare at your action bars when raiding/m+ grinding
One of the best
seems like a really good trinket to have for Smolderon
I dont stare blud
speaking of Smolderon, what's the best way to do that as fury? the 1.5 cds don't seem to come back up quite in time for your 5 stack orb
do you have to delay your first orb pickup as long as humanly possible?
so when i do my opener w/ odyns fury, regardless of the time left on the dot, i cant let avatar drop off?
the dot and avatar have the same duration
Is it normal to overcap Rage in openers?
yes
Moving my post to log-review
do i just press roar as soon as i charge in and odyns
So Reck-> Rampage -> OF -> Rampage -> TR yeah?
in aoe or st?
at some point during the ptr i was under the assumption the 4 set has an internal cd that prevents you from gaining more than one cd reduction on odyns fury from a single bt cast. is that the case?
ur wasting bloodbath casts if u ramp without using bloodbath
never wanna waste bloodbath, overcapping be damned
How do I view spell reflect damage?
should be on your damage meters
for crafting, we go bracers+cloak right, for the first two sparks?
stats to put on there, considering I also offspec prot, I usually go with crit+haste, is that very bad for fury, or fine-ish?
or if oyu dont have an addon, your combat log
ST
When looking at overall on details I don't see spell reflect damage
The icy veins rotation has enraged roar after the odyns I think
it should be there, unless you reflected something that doesnt do damage
i beleive you want to reck charge ramp odyns roar bb
to get it on cd asap yes
what main reason to actually look at the rage bar?
"I remember when this thing mattered in Legion."
Anybody else spell reflecting boss stuff in raid? Hearing that cachunk is satisfying but idk what I'm reflecting 😂
I've been doing smolderon wrong every week 
ur likely deflecting, not reflecting
I've been fighting the boss and just charging him when he knocks me back and collecting the orbs as they come in
When I should be leaping back a bit to make sure my orbs spawn further away to align with my 1.5 min cds
Word
In any case spell reflect seems cracked in amirdrassil vs aberrus
Oh yeah it was good in aberrus too
Probably one of the best defensive in the game
I just don't remember deflecting stuff with it in aberrus
Amirdrassil I believe there were 2-3 bosses where I was deflecting spells
does quest "killing fyrak" giving Tier as reward ? not asking about tier drop from fyrak
Getting AOTC does
If you haven't already gotten the freebie from getting 2k io
But no the quest doesn’t give tier
holy shit any tips for the new build? i do less dmg than with t30 lol
You have 4P?
Could deflect one of bomb each bomb set on Sark
Was pretty goated for p1
Is there a way to see in logs what was spell reflected and how much damage it did?
what % should i cap mastery n haste ?
When sims say so
thewre isnt a number? ;P
Vers is better for us than haste this season after tier right or am I trippin
yep
It could be. Or at least as good. As said above, it depends on gear. But vers is a good stat for us this season with 4p. How much is a sim question
is there a way to see on logs the amount of time you spent above a certain hp threshold?
are we rly droping mastery for vers?
We're simming and following recommendations, like always. lol
feel like i gotta blow my CD's at the perfect time to parse high on AoE bosses whenever adds come out lol
ethical padding
I think bb takes priority unless you're not enraged
Welcome to parsing
Cleave fights are kinda rough without 4p fr
Just go Arms for 2p+2P until you get 4P t31
how dare you
say this in the fury channel

It's the truth. Arms 2+2 does way more damage than fury 2+2. Then you swap back. or stay 4p t30.
honestly, it dont even really matter people are already timing 20s with 2p
If you're frustrated with spear just run roar, so far on my sims only 1.2k dps loss
sure CDs line up nicer with 4p t30 but going 2+2 wont hinder you from doing fine
and for freedom its worth the 1.2k loss lol
but would u say fury 4 set is better then arms 4set?
yeah
Any Fury warrior around there that can send an overall damage done in 21 - 22+ keys or log plz
feel like 2p 2p is better than our 4p in AoE ngl
Your feels are wrong
The 4pc makes Odyns fury have so much uptime
logs? screenshots??
This tier is last tier on crack
You get free bloodthirsty crits every like 20 seconds
no its not
Instead of waiting for one
the 2 piece doesnt get cleaved
feel like my stats are shit tbh
I’m talking about 4 piece
I’m not on my computer right now but that’s what I remember doing
wrong pic
What do you mean?
the 50% damage on OF is good, but it's primarily a st tierset
I’m talking bt crits
my shit is all over the place
yes we are too
yes, the crit and bonus damage only apply to the main target
I like this tier because I can just macro all my cool downs into one button
enjoy losing damage
#showtooltip Avatar
/cast Avatar
/cast Odyn's Fury
/use 13
/cast Recklessness
/cast [@player] Ravager
Don't macro that yikes
Ravages has a gcd
Reverse that macro lol
thats my opener
just dont use it lmfao
on lust raid
You lose out on the BT charges if you use avatar of at the same time
no you dont
It stacks
You keep charges
You get 6 charges
you do lose out on dancing blades duration
Just got 4Set. And I hate it for fury 😄
Ah someone here said otherwise
That individual might be a bit cooked
I think my macro is reck trinket avatar dshout
tf is dshout
imagine having one extra keybind this tier and still macroing every cd available to you
couldnt be me
Dragon shout
I assume he means thunderous roar
ah
#showtooltip Avatar
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/cast [@player] Ravager
/use 13
/cast [@player] Spear of Bastion
this one good?
No

Ravager and spear have gcd
so
no
You can’t put them on same macro
if its on lust pull
It won’t work
If you spam it
Not In one button tho
Also spear first if ur running odyns
Cause crit damage
finally after 30 fucking rises man
kk ill swap that aroud, i usually do spam it lol
gz
Day 1047 waiting for guilds to clear fyrakk so we can see legendary
i doubt it dies before tomorrow
im betting saturday tbh
Aberrussy died week 1 right?
People geared so fast s2
almost triple
Makes sense to me. The ilvl jump was so big
thats what we like to see baby
Echo just owning for once or
yeah it did not look fun
but i think echo is playing this fight better
Idk do those even count as intermissions
It’s just the part of phase 2 with all the adds
seems to favour planning
Echo got to watch someone else do it for 12 hours
grouping and cc’ing with all the other shit hard
liquid turned off streams at 8pm est yesterday
more like 6 hours maybe
what are you talking about
They were streaming fyrakk
Instant dollars is gonna come clutch it
yeah while echo was killing a diff boss lmfao
You dont think they had people watching lol
im sure they did
and whats your excuse for echo getting the same prog as liquid did after they turned streams off
HAHAHHA
What does that even mean LOL
thats what i was thinking
im a fan of arthur malding on twitter when he loses despite having 8 hour aadvantage perma
Who sitting there go liquid go on world first progs 💀
everbloom is fun 😄
idk some of the stuff people type has the same energy as some guy standing up and yelling "HELL YEAH" or something while I'm getting some wings at a bar because his team did something he liked on the TV
I can't not cringe at fan energy or the stuff they actually think about for other teams they don't like
Uh.. prolly about half the people who care about rwf me included
I’m not rly interested in the team vs team whining max is just a funny guy so I like him
max is precisely the reason i do not want liquid to win
ok 
:woo:


Skill issue
Skill issue
I mean the only time I’ll be ok with a decline if they got 3 dps
That’s a respectable “no need to waste one of your slots on this key that’s full on dps”
so maybe they happened, but if not then rip bozo
why would i apply to akey with 3 dps
no they picked a third dps that wasnt you
after you queued
ain nobody signing up to one with 3 dps
If you hover over the declined message you can see the comp but w/e small peace of mind
Only reaaon i like max cuz his stream actually shows prog
Does gorehowl demonbane get included in sims? Droptimizer says it's .3% lower than brh's two hander.
Not those cringe podcast team streams
Random topics and weird cuts of watching a guy take a bite of food like tf
doubt it
I mean I’m psure scripe streams just like max does, but everyone just watches echo broadcast instead of the actual raid
Wait xan doesn't like wow dad max. What gives
Like there is also a liquid thing with casters but it’s a lot less watched than max cuz watching max is way more interesting and most of the time funnier
hes a very fake person
I can't watch scripe. It's like he doesn't get excited for the game at all, Max gets energetic and memes are fully on outside pulls. It's hard to watch Scripe when I'm falling asleep.
and a douche irl
Echos casters are pretty good while the raids a bit more serious, but max’s stream while also being serious has some good funny moment
Most internet personalities are
I enjoy his fake personality. I don't have to talk to him at Thanksgiving dinner.
you're more than welcome to, I think it's cringe
i know lots of people that have interacted with him and have had literally nothing good to say
Wouldn't finding it cringe mean you're more parasocial than me because I'm not getting uppity over his personality?
except that his gf is nice
if your not one of those people why are you so opinionated on him lol
I don't spend 2 seconds thinking about people I don't like
I don't talk about them either
I cannot understand
i mean ok unless he’s like actually a dick if he’s just awkward and not the same personality irl as on his stream whatever who is
like 90% of streamers have the “streamer mode” personality
I dont like shitty people having a spotlight
I can't count on both hands and toes how many people have the spotlight who aren't good people
whether they show it publicly or not
but I don't waste any energy thinking about them or talking about them to anybody
you wanna talk about bad people how about half of the echo roster not doing anything about method josh till he was publicized and then splitting from them to make their own group after they went under fire
just kinda weird
need more
who is arthur
8k haste or bust
its so bad
max
bro i legit cant even tell if my buttons are going off
o
Idk man, I feel like you are the type of person if I said I liked Top Gun Maverick you'd go off about how America and Tom Cruise are both bad people and therefore I shouldn't have liked the movie. Just seems like a depressing way to live to be honest, can't look at life like that or you'll just be in a permanent state of upset.
and he took that personally
It's full of American propaganda to encourge people to believe signing up is good and honorable when it isn't. It encourages young people to go to war to die for old people that will never care about their families. Tom Cruise is a scientologist that encourages dangerous medical practices. You shouldn't have watched it, and liking it makes you as bad as them.
That's what you sound like when you talk about Liquid lol
me today
no way if my tinkets proc
someone asked why i didnt like him
do we open with odyn's fury with the 4set?
also is it affected by enrage? so do i need to enrage before i hit it?
Yeah rampage then odyn
If you're playing Dancing Blades you have to rampage before
But if you play Titanic Rage, the enrage effect buffs the cast of OF
An opener for Dancing Blades would look like
Reck + Charge -> Rampage -> OF -> Spear/Roar -> BB -> Rampage -> Avatar -> BB -> Rampage and so on
A Titanic Rage opener would look similar except not needing to Rampage before it
You spear before avatar??
weapon enchants generally stay wafting devot / sophic devotion even with T31 ? (pls dont answer just sim)
I guess just to keep the cds synced
My shit is saying wafting wafting
You also Spear after OF to make sure all of your BBs are buffed by Spear crit bonus
you already on T31 ? cuz im not so i cant rly sim
I am
ok cool, thx
Learn something new everyday
I fuckin hate spear btw
I’m a believer of spear then of on aoe because the bb cleave doesn’t cleave
roar is -1.2k dps currently on my sims (178k vs 180k)
Yeah same
Worth it to have for the freedom and less headache imo.
Maybe
I did a sim quickly as well as if I had 4p, and it's a 0.9% increase to swap to Spear
Guys, werent we supposed to get legendary this tier ?
Well see what it is once liquid kills fyrakk
Doubt its something we'll gonna get in week or two. Why not just release some info
blizz forggot about it
bc it was for warr
should we ever Bloodbath while not enrage? Wowhead says to rampage if not enraged but the APL seems to send bloodbath no matter what
Bloodbath no matter what
Cause it lowers of cd
But it should be easy to be enraged while bb
whats the lowest level champ track stuff drops cause I dont want to farm DOTI to get offhand on harder difficulty than I need to
Is it normal That i somestimes have to ww in st?
454 I believe
Unless you mean from M+
Then it's a +9
kk so 9 and above gotcha
Im just looking to get a better offhand then the current 447 lol I can upgrade it to 470 and DOTI is aids pugging imo
Raid. Lots of dungeons.
Both throne and brh have a offhand
You shouldn’t care at that ilvl.
Ilvl >>> all other stats on a weapon
yeah I Farm it on 9 lol then juice the offhand up to 470 as soon as I Get it
So you have options. You just are being picky for no reason.
k
Depending on the content you're doing, farming it on a lower track is fine if you aren't expecting to be doing 17's anyway and don't mind farming for more flightstones
It really is up to you in the end
yes
Im maxed out on flight stones I find keys more annoying with bursting so Im not pushing high this week
so I am going to farm it out on the path of least resistance hell I cant even upgrade it past 470 this week anyhow lol
I’ll take some of those stones. I need like 5,800 to upgrade my current equipped gear.
Even trade you some weapons for them.
run lower keys and help out the noobs you get like 75 per lower key
Feels so shit
starting to pump!
I think my account is bugged, can only loot wrong stat rings and gloves 😮
Demon hunters are like "hold my mouse"
What is this luck, jesus
Tight. Double sophic? I can’t even get 1 sophic. Sims always say double wafting.
any good m+ trinks for aoe?
might of the ocean is good
Yeah very fun for aoe on pur big burst
mirror, crab

🦀
no
anyone got an ideal damage breakdown at the end of a dungeon for fury?
What are the 2 best embellishments for warrior fury for raid?
Won't I use them together basically always?
Allied Wrists and Shadowflame Cloak
no
You use Roar/Spear before Avatar
you use roar off rip and you delay avatar usually by about 3 - 4 gcds
Hello brothers
This is APL Simc that I customized since the basic MT APL is stuck in Season 2.
Has anyone made an APL that they think is better than this?
APL doesn't show reck on pull homie?
Um, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Anyway, what I want to say is that the current default MT APL is not set appropriately for the T31+Anni build.
So I customized it.
However, I wonder if there is an APL customized by someone better than me.
I don't see reck in the ability log in the bottom, just OF then avatar a few GCDs later? I think yours is the 1st 1 I've seen for MT
Oh, that's right, I'll edit it. Thank you.
❤️
is fury harder than arms to play?
Am i dumb? Why do i keep getting 1h weapons as loot?
put loot spec arms
are we still on board for crafting cloak and bracers?
bracers are our BiS crafted?
Yeah but why..?
always have arms as loot
cause fury can use 1h
Cause Fury also plays with 1h weapons
is there any specific reason we go annihilator this season
moar dmg
xD
fairs
I don't know why, but when I changed the settings to Patchwork 3 Targets for 5 minutes and simulated it, Reck worked normally.
When simulating with Dungeon Slice, Reck is cast much later lol
goes too hard with odyns
So change to arms everytime i go into dungeons or just keep it at arms always?
always arms
But but but i play fury
but but but bro
😄
😄 😄
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iMk8mzaMGcinnqbsiB7mfZ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i4wB1zXKPyZ1pFgnmbkzuD
The first link is a basic MT APL simulation.
The second link is a MT APL simulation that I customized.
Has anyone written a better MT APL than this?
what is bis item we craft?
Just saw in the talent tree's for the new season in the m+ Talent build slaughtering strikes is selected, wouldnt it make more sense to play to play Bloodcraze in the m+ build too as we're still spamming out loads of BT?
There’s a note in the pins with some general info
But sim yourself to be sure / for exact info
Hahaha what a jump, nailed it!
just saw on icy veins bracers with embelisment of versa
Bracers are referred to in the pins, and you can check via gear compare what sims highest for you if you’re unsure
vers and shadowflame are generally comparable
its in the guide
This part of Anni’s build is a bit disappointing.
I want my fingers to press the buttons non-stop

great thanks 🙂
your fingers can press w/e they want
just keep hammering that button, something will happen eventually!
nice fingers bro, how did u train them?
master of fingers
If that happens, I fidget while pressing the left and right movement keys lol
you could charge
What's ur opinion on lariat? Shadowflame damage seems so low imo, using shadowflame cape 486 and 476 versa bracers
kinda pointless since most people don't have full sockets right now
Hey fellow warriors, I just switched from arms to Fury main warrior, I wanted to ask shall i replace some pieces of crit haste into mastery vers? The wowhead guide says haste > mastery for m+. I dont raid at all so I will focus on m+ building, I also just got 4p
if i sim better on shadowflame wrists rather than allied companion im crafting shadowflame right?
you made sure to say allied wrists had 4 allies around?
mmm where can i change that?
Arch is vers bracers good for arms too u think?
Finally got 4 set tier and did a dungeon.... I cannot grasp the play style /cool downs now....
Does anyone have a script that changes the color of the health bar of targets with a debuff that I specify during player mode?
I can't find it on wago

Are we meant to only use bloodthirst when it becomes bloodbath?
No bt is our main cast
So BT over BB?
Bloodcraze loses value in Mt scenarios
Nono bb is highest prio
I want to target the target hit by Wrath of the Titans.
As I progress through M+, I can't stand Odin until all the monsters reach the range where they can hit Odin.
But you can only cast bb after ramp. So outside of that you’ll press bt basically every other gcd
you should try casting bloodthirst before bloodbath 
And when we use Odin's we prio BT over BB
Did you read what I said above
👀
Yes haha I'm sorry trying to sort this out haha
its defintly going to get some getting used to
I feel the gameplay as Fury is less dynamic with T31 that it was with T30, what do you think about it?
its different, if you get bad luck you actually have downtime which feels.. weird
So if I have a choice to use rampage into BB or BT....
Rotation will look something like this (don’t necessarily follow this cast for cast) charge-bt-slam-bt-ramp-odyns-bb-ramp-bb-slam-ramp-bb
what do you define as dynamic?
cause I feel like it was pretty static before - Ramp had prio, spam RB otherwise, CDs on a fairly predictable cadence
now you have to weave in a lot more buttons and the rotation changes constantly
why raidbots says that Stats sims are not accurate?
for the exact reason that it says on the page; try clicking the "read more" link
This is outside of cooldowns you’d also need actually need to cast ww after charge actually
Stat Weights have several shortcomings. Direct sims (Top Gear, Droptimizer, Gear Compare) are better.
it just says several shortcomings..
If you’re not gonna rage cap pressing bt before ramp will prevent empty gcd
Stat weights bad
Just top gear/droptimizer
Ok so base it off your rage threshold to not overcap essentially
Ya
hmm ok 🙂
Generally bt cast every other gcd
each stat you gain basically changes the weight, so it would never be the same from piece to piece
But BT on cd and rampage when you can to activate BB
BB still gets the 150% from tier yes?
And make sure you keep up your OF sub
Idk if it’s just me but you def need to get a feel of when you should ramp over squeezing in a bt. I think that’s the biggest thing for feeling good and feeling “slow” as some people call it
Yes bb gets 150% damage after casting Of
Sadly the tier boost doesn’t cleave
This is a patchwork 3-target 5-minute battle simulation.
Aren’t these Trinkets only for tanks? lol
But bb is a pretty large hit so you also gotta make sure you have ww stacks
probably why theres a yellow ! by it
I only got 2p2p but ngl I like this build
the big BTs must be crazy in execute
it feels clunky for m+ tho without the 4P
they do feel nice
arms prolly pulls ahead still
i will say though.. this build feels like a more things just hit once instead of multiple times, so you can see its real damage
With more gear Fury sims more tho
TRUE
S3 is big hit season
before fury was like a fucking rabbit hitting 1000 times for 100 dmg
I'm gonna need to seem more Fury doomer in here, yall acting like DH, BM, and all rog specs aren't wiping the FLOOR with our warrior asses
they can fuck off
yep, its nice seeing the giant number instead of a lot of smaller numbers
Oh they dumpster us
But I love warrior too much to switch
Y’all think they’ll get it down before reset
as someone who mostly just M+.. going to suck to have to farm the lego
yeah, wonder if i could bribe my old raid group to join their weekly heroic kills
really depends if its a raid wide drop or a personal drop
yeah meant m+
Arm builds are super nice rn for m+
Fervor and BS
Of its like evoker leggo drop system, may God have mercy on all our souls
Ahh makes sense
several tank trinkets are good for DPS
Bigger pulls makes arms just way better i guess
in raids ST Ill prolly play fury even with this 2p2p
Idk if it was confirmed but I think leggo stuff is personal
wewt
Ya arms got aoe tier
It’s kinda funny how we basically switched damage profiles
dont mind that at all
What is the new spell proirity with T31 4pc?
I lifted the shield to get that lol
the fyrakk tnak one is pretty good on AoE
Hey guys, is there a Weakaura for Odyns Fury Buff, so i know when to use Avatar? 
when we dps murazonds and the adds come out whats the play as fury, just run to the hunter add and cleave, cause some tanks keep the boss by the edge and cant cleave boss with the hunter add, im guessing save shockwave before the cast goes out as well
Use it after 3-4 gcd
on the alliance/horde boss
Track Avatar
Is crit for us important ?
When Avatar from OF is about to run out, you use your actual Avatar
Well okay, thanks
It's gonna have more use cases tracking Avatar as well
Appreciate ya, I ended up deciding to not be an idiot and figuring out the spellID myself
Since it works for both Arms and Fury, and whenever the tier disappears
i got the 4 set so i use avatar with reck and make sure you got cleave thing going for you cause you want to smash multiple targets, pump as many rampages and onslaughts out during that window along with bloodthirst cause its so strong if you talent it right, once your 3rd bloodthirst goes out, cast avtar and repeat
what % mastery should i be aiming for
haste 30% then do what you want with stats, but ilv is so strong atm
if ilv is equal mastery>crit=vers but of course sim
noob question. with the KSM token you can get heroi pve tier or elite pvp tier but the difference seems to only be that elite pvp gear scales up on pvp activities
ok think im over stated got 37% haste and 51% mastery
am I understanding something incorrectly here?
do we need to get some crit for t he 4pc set to help cdr?
wait, you can get pvp gear from the ksm token?
hey friends, quick question, do think with t31 tier 2 set, its better to hit execute over bloodbath when it pops up, and exspecially in execute phase?
no
these are the options
enraged BB > all
yeah bt so strong man, the stuff melts with bt now
not really
these seem exactly the same with the only diff being pvp upscale
kk thanks bro,
What is the new spell proirity with 4pc T31?
like when i do keys, the target i want dead i bt it 3 times asap
We don’t onslaught anymore though
the buff from 2 set stacks to 6 so you're only waiting for ~3 GCDs before pressing avatar
i got slam where my raging blow used to be
I'ma put BT on my RB
Bt gets slam
OF on Onslaught
And then it's all the same as season 1
Of is my ravager bind
i put slam on RB, OF on old OS, and roar on rav
after playing the 4 set today, im gonna say this, save odyns fury for later cause the first odyns fury is really avatar and avatar buffs you right so use the 3bt asap with avatar up and your odysn fury later on "during avatar" will hit 20% harder so both odyns furies have 20% increased damage
you definitely shouldnt do that
You want OF on CD so you get 4piece value
if you press avatar first you arent benefitting from the cdr on 4 set
I have mine on one of the back 3 keys on my MMO mouse
oh yeah so you do lose some 20% damage on the fiest odyn fury but you get the cd up faster, got it
I get that, an I'm asking humbly here. Why are the top parses popping avatar first?
back to the talent tree lol
link
what boss are you looking at
oh yeah titans torment does that
Oh man we did some igira pulls and I fell into my fury grove so hard
the red orb phase you save cd for right
yes, whcih is the burn phase
Idk if you save avatar or odyns for first set of spears I was holding avatar and roar
or rather
you don't save CDs for it
holding for over 1 minute
is way too grief
but odyns into roar on all the spears is 
but you pop your CDs insta on pull to have it ready for that phase
is fury playable in arms stats?
yes
you just drop orbs at the very edge of the room so they hit you right at the end of the burn phase when all of your cd's come up 
very poggers
after playing the 4 set today im thinking of switching arms for raid, both are pretty even right
everyone else burning boss and ur waiting for cd's to come up
Yea I do that pretty convenient
for raid that is
yeah they're really close
for m+ fury is much more fun
he's just doing it wrong
Kinda funny you say that cause arms kinda looks better for m+
doesnt mean hes bad, just means opener doesnt matter nearly as much as everyone here thinks it does
but it is technically wrong
whats your opener on a big pack with cds up, warbreak tc bladestorm then sweep strike the the reg op ms with slam filler rotation?
there's a lot more that goes into parsing than whether OF/Ava gets pushed first - arguably what you do is the least important factor in getting a good parse
I don’t use Bladestorm build
should ask in arms
Fob

oh you use cleave after warbreak?
Cleave bad
so ww build you using
Specs about the same damage profile in raid?
OF first is objectively better, though the difference is extremely small
- Avatar procs OF
- OF procs Avatar
the only difference is that OF cannot gain cooldown reduction (from the 4p) if it's not on cooldown, so using Avatar first delays OF
Whereas using OF first means a few extra seconds of cooldown for your next OF
Seems like fury is more popular
Avatar also off gcd so imo I enjoy the flow of that better
Stat prio for Fury in s3?
ilevel
all of them 
ilevel first then sim second
they did already
Straight to sim
Thank you, I've just been struggling with the new build, and didn't get much help on the log channel, so I'm trying to get it down to a T
I'd recommend reading the guide
and don't focus on the little shit like Ava or OF first
hello guys! i am simming the 2 tier pieces and i seem to lose a lot of dps vs not using it, am i simming something wrong? (https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vWATJfMvxGFrtjAXtL6aEM vs https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7JSvQ5V77iD7BDgdkWKP66)
If an item is over 15 ils it is probably better than what you have
if your performance is lacking, it's usually because of a bigger factor
a fundamental mistake being made, not a minute one
so with the 4 set, i am not seeing a meat clever going on when you cast odyns fury with reck, so ww after the odyns fury on a mob ack in m+ then rampage bt cause i am def looking at my talent tree and i do not see meat cleaver thing happening till ww is casted
Done that already, I'm just not fitting things properly
They should have shortened it to 7 seconds, not 9!
4p doesn't do that, Titanic Rage is the talent you're looking for
You have dancing blades talented then
The choice node under of
Hmm, do you guys know if it's worth to split my old 447 4set for new set (m+ content) ?
if i using dancing blades instead ww after right
Reck first
just hit something
No, bug is fixed
sounds like you already answered your own question
in T30 it doesn't matter
seems so. thanks
in T31, using Avatar early is... very bad
^
how do I sim embelishments? I couldnt find the shadowflame one
Gear compare
so did a very high murazond rise key and the battleground boss fight wiped us, guy left group after 2nd wipe, lots of damage going out, what could i have done better to get the kill, i targeted the horde axe thrower (for alliance) and alliance archer (for horde) and i storm bolted before their cast when off and just cleaved off that mob and the boss kept casting "thirst for battle" and well it chunked us as a group and 2 ppl died from that boss ability, i really hate murazond on a high key cause of this boss this week
If you have a random crafted in the slot you plan on making you can top gear and edit what embell goes on it, if not think u just gotta gear compare

in T31 ability prio like this ?!
BloodBath (not caping rage) > Rampage > Odinsfury > Execute > BT > Slam > WW
i didnt read half of the words you put but did you aim the frontal into the middle of the room
if the frontal kills any orange men you are in big trouble
My fave part was the “very high key” instead of just saying the key level
no your tank positioned the boss correctly
mean if i have 129 rage and BB is ready should press BB ?!
+19
its your job to position to hit it
jesus its gives me bad feeling
Y?
yeah but the tank can move the boss to the edge so you dont cleave any orange men
youll get used to it
It’s not as bad as s1
the prio i said was true right ?! mean slam have more prio than WW right ?!
st yes
For st yes
true
fking fact xD
i really hate that boss on tyr cause we cleave so much and it just makes the boss stronger lol
Also bt>ramp if below 100 rage
the amount of cleave you as a group do 99% doesnt make the boss stronger
im not actually too sure how exactly the boss gains the stack but if you wipe from it that means that you aimed the frontal or the bladestorm thru the middle of the room
why 100 ?! rampage is ready on 80 rage i got confuse xP
Since every ability has a cd this season the goal is to never have empty gcd
Bt is gonna be cast basically every other gcd
100? Isn’t 85% 110?
when i did the key the axethrower/archer was by 2 orange guys, i cleaved, 2 orange guys died, so boss screamed twice, that bad right
aha
- Crits lower of cd
- Bt cooldown is a gcd length so you can cast it after casting something else
ty for helping 💎 
Is it 110 rage? I stand corrected
rampage,if=talent.reckless_abandon&(buff.recklessness.up|buff.enrage.remains<gcd|rage.pct>85)
Ramp>bt at 110 rage
Has anyone had issues with Onslaught randomly deciding to not cast? Happened to me a couple times in keys now.
got it ty
hey does anyone know how i can track avatars uptime using afenars castbar?
Does anyone have a macro to cast both thunderous Roar and Spear of Bastion but spear is @ player when i try to make a macro it would only use whatever i type in first and never use the second /cast command
I am 462ilvl and only simming 140k is that supposed to be right I got 4 set
#showtooltip
/cast [known:384318] Thunderous Roar; [@player] Spear of Bastion
im simming that high put cant pull it off
you are a god send
Link the sim maybe a smart person can look through it
i gave it a try and no luck it only used Thunderous Roar but i have both talented
with 2-2 458 i sim literally the same almost
you cant macro them together if you have both talented
Switch your Of capstone to dancing blades
That’ll increase it a little
Hmm... might need to replace the semi-colon with a coma...
It is on dancing blades
i think that might work gotta wait for CD
Oh wth
my stats are maybe way off idk what yall are looking like
Im like 30/25/50/20 rn
I really feel like im very low on dps in the sim for being 462
single target and 4 set yea
heres the sim
Yo click battle shout on the sim
Actually does seem low..
Your simming without buffs
I unclock all the others but leave my own battle shout.
Oh dam I haven't scrolled down
Quick sim usually puts all raid buffs up. Which is where the discrepancies may be coming from.
