I don't have anything but old Shadowflame sparks
#fury
outer bluff
spare otter
Spam dungeons in hope of getting a ring lmao
spare otter
Surely that won't take too long haha
covert blaze
you can get current whelplings and craft a blue ring with no spark at 447 with a socket
outer bluff
Where do I get it
covert blaze
buy a nascent whelpling's dreaming crest from the enchanting vendor for 30 whelpling crests
craft an enchanted whelpling crest to craft a ''band of new beginnings''
covert blaze
you can only equip one of those rings, so don't craft 2
covert blaze
a socket is worth a lot and you can customize stats
spiral ermine
@oblique trail can u link ur sim?
oblique trail
which one
covert blaze
it would have been worth it to craft a 447 with a socket for the other slot
oblique trail
2p or 4p
covert blaze
but you cant equip two so
oblique trail
not that I know what you need my sims for
spare otter
Hey man can you link Ur sims?
oblique trail
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s9mPH7qvqvQLw1X4YCeKWt 4p
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hgxG46fT8AyKD4S3YbXkK3 2p
I don't actually have 4p yet but it was just to illustrate what it'd look like
spiral ermine
ty
spare otter
Damn I need that necklace man
oblique trail
Pretty sure the biggest piece of gear I have is my weapon
eternal sundial
rezan and signet
I have ran 0 atals on warrior and have a 489 one
God rewards the patient
hasty badger
is it a bad idea to makro Avatar and Odyns Fury together?
oblique trail
yes
eternal sundial
Very bad
outer bluff
I have the Signet and Lava Serpent trinket
fallow oracle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s9mPH7qvqvQLw1X4YCeKWt 4p
https://www.rai...
lfr signet gang 
hopefully get a heroic one today
outer bluff
I have a normal one xD
fallow oracle
will be cringe progging mythic smold with lfr signet
plucky ice
gear bad but vault blessed with 489 gorehowl 
fallow oracle
might be an on use angle for smold tho
fallow oracle
my fury is still 12k behind my arms 
eternal sundial
Arm
fallow oracle
gotta farm up 2 reasonable fury rings and pray for a heroic signet or augury
plucky ice
both from vault ez
oblique trail
lfr signet gang <:keks:936231610850897992> hopefully get a heroic one today
Signet is a bait
trinket does no damage
fallow oracle
lfr signet did 3.2% on igira
seems normal
483 rezans did 3.7% on council as arms
obv lower cuz cleave fight but we dont talk about volcoross kill
worldly ridge
is a recrafted lariat better then the raven necklace?
worldly ridge
so raven with 3 sockets is better then a recrafted lariat with 3 sockets?
primal bane
errant vessel
Is the Signet self damage boosting its numbers, or is that factored out of sims?
Because I know there was a bug with Adaptive Swarm on feral dealing dmg to self if you precast it in the APL. So donno if self dmg counts?
short spire
is ther a point keeping the 2p old set after getting the new 2p?
worldly ridge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s9mPH7qvqvQLw1X4YCeKWt 4p
https://www.rai...
what your stats look like?
worldly ridge
is vers better then haste this season?
zinc oyster
Wich embelish whould we do with the fury
glass kelp
Wich embelish whould we do with the fury
Shadowflame on cloak and wrist
zinc oyster
Is it more raid opti or mm+ ?
glass kelp
Overall
zinc oyster
I might look for an opti more mm+
oblique trail
Shadowflame on Cloak + Vers Wrists are better overall, since double Shadowflame is only very slightly ahead on ST, but Vers wrists work in both AoE and ST
Plus Vers wrists give you a bit more survivability at the same time
summer quail
i think when i simmed, the vers wrists vs sflame it was like 300 dps difference. when i'm simming like 180k 300 dps is tiny
zinc oyster
Ok
plucky ice
vers good no rng, more surv, more aoe
short spire
Guys for the new rotation in m+ is there a neeed to use the whirlwing every 4 stacks? since i see more dmg in bloodbath aoe
so i just use it for filler
next hatch
Guys for the new rotation in m+ is there a neeed to use the whirlwing every 4 st...
I think you are supposed to keep 100% uptime on everything non ST right?
warm crag
they're dogshit
please do share your true stats
oblique trail
NEVER
narrow narwhal
100/100/100/100
oblique trail
ok salt you think you're cool sharing sims higher than mine??? wtf???
dull sierra
Guys for the new rotation in m+ is there a neeed to use the whirlwing every 4 st...
always keep ww up when there is more than 1 target
warm crag
i could sim like this if i added weapons to my account !!!!
warm crag
im saving up weapon luck for the legendary dw dw
plucky ice
only need another weapon, rings, trinkets, 4p and im good
dull sierra
i just need a fucking ring
oblique trail
no one will get the weapon
dull sierra
i s2g
oblique trail
because echo will never kill fyrakk
dull sierra
having this crafted ring is the bane of my ilvl existence
warm crag
because echo will never kill fyrakk
i will get eu first
dull sierra
and a neck with mastery would be nice
oblique trail
i will get eu first
holy!!
clever path
Imagine having weapons above champion track
oblique trail
autograph now
dull sierra
i will get eu first
ill beat u there
warm crag
No
dull sierra
yes
warm crag
ok you win
dull sierra
rotund ginkgo
Probs doing both tonight
dull sierra
Any1 that did Volo on mythic for tips?
single target slam
stay close to the fire pools for tail baits
dull sierra
move far if u have circle
oblique trail
ok go watch a video then
warm crag
tip: research the fight
rotund ginkgo
I am
dull sierra
DONT MOVE BACK INTO THE GROUP UNTIL ITS A SOAK
rotund ginkgo
😎
dull sierra
or u will kill people
oblique trail
DONT MOVE BACK INTO THE GROUP UNTIL ITS A SOAK
I will do this
and you can NOT stop me
rotund ginkgo
Real
dull sierra
no i wont stop you, i will just get madge
rotund ginkgo
Just wanna log another 99 😔😔😔😔😔😔
dull sierra
ty <3
i got a big 46 on volcoross yesterday
🤧
that wasnt the emote i wanted
oh well
narrow narwhal
:woo:
dull sierra
duality of me
warm crag
Just wanna log another 99 😔😔😔😔😔😔
get gear -> press buttons -> free 99
rotund ginkgo
Only issue left is killing
plucky ice
just get better gear than eveyone else ez
rotund ginkgo
duality of me
Heroic?
dull sierra
first one is heroic, 2nd is mythic
rotund ginkgo
Guild gave me fyrakk yesterday feelsgood
dull sierra
dull sierra
yur
rotund ginkgo
I think I had a 171 heroic on day 1 and it was rank 1
outer bluff
I have a 85 on Volcoross H that wasn't a kill 😭
rotund ginkgo
Got dethroned in half a day
I was 451 and the dude that did 190 was like 470 💀💀💀
short spire
should i do what the YT videos say? whic his reck and odin then two ramp and two bloodbath then avatar and roar? for m+ or just use all on pull and on cd?
rotund ginkgo
Some Russian
warm crag
I have a 85 on Volcoross H that wasn't a kill 😭
wipe parses are like for sure fake
rotund ginkgo
BRUH ahahaha I'll be happy to do 190
warm crag
unless i was owed like a million r1s on sark
outer bluff
Probably
dull sierra
ya dude i got 100% on a wipe that was 20s long
rotund ginkgo
should i do what the YT videos say? whic his reck and odin then two ramp and two...
What Vids say that?
In m+ I odyns, use 4 whirlwind then reck Ava
rotund ginkgo
In m+?
2.5s isn't long 💀 that way u get odyns faster
2s for reck isn't huge
But 5s cd reduction on odyns is huge
oblique trail
I'm confused with what Reck has to do with Odyn's being up faster
dull sierra
theres the issue
rotund ginkgo
I never said my shit was optimal
short spire
In m+ I odyns, use 4 whirlwind then reck Ava
i just tried that did less dmg because i think if u odin and reck then ramp and bloodbath u hit maximum aoe dmg
dull sierra
wbaki the video is correct
chrome plover
i just tried that did less dmg because i think if u odin and reck then ramp and ...
reck first
rotund ginkgo
What's the video?
dull sierra
ragish is wrong
short spire
reck first
ye thats what i meant
rotund ginkgo
I never said I was correct stop 💀💀💀
I literally just played it by ear lmao I'm a lazy fuck
oblique trail
"I want 99s but I'm lazy and don't want to be optimal" 
short spire
should i macro reck and odin together and avatar and roar together?
dull sierra
i figured that out after u asked what volcoross does
rotund ginkgo
Im referring to m+ not to raids
chrome plover
should i macro reck and odin together and avatar and roar together?
nah
dull sierra
dont macro anything together imo
chrome plover
^
rotund ginkgo
Can macro trinkies I guess
chrome plover
trinket is fine if it matches cool-down
covert blaze
I think ragish might be lazy
rotund ginkgo
Yessir
short spire
I'll watch l8r
this is the simplest explantion i watched but im not sure if its 100% corerect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mn9CEpZW_o&ab_channel=Madspatula
covert blaze
If he says it like 2 more times in the next 5 minutes I might be fully convinced
covert blaze
Yeah
rotund ginkgo
So 1 more time?
chrome plover
this is the simplest explantion i watched but im not sure if its 100% corerect h...
yeah seems good
specifically with titans fury talented of course
you wanna enrage for odyns fury with dancing blades
short spire
so do as he says and hold avatr and rck until 2 ramp and bb?
dull sierra
avatar and roar ye
chrome plover
no not reck
dull sierra
not reck
short spire
sorry roar
short spire
say less
i hit 1mill dps yesterday when i first got my 2p and i didnt know what i was doing
dull sierra
go dunk on everyone 🫡
short spire
just spamming buttons
short spire
if my guild stops this rc loot bs ill get it faster
devout totem
💀
chrome plover
?? That should make you get it faster tbh
short spire
nah the leader gave my tp to a warrior that parsed 70 while i parsed 94
dull sierra
bm hunter is not allowed
plucky ice
it will make him do more damage
chrome plover
bm hunter is not allowed
oblique trail
bm hunter is not allowed
insert havoc and it's the same if not worse
oblique trail
I've only played with good Havocs
Even had one that was 4/9m last night
gapped me by 70k in DHT
chrome plover
yeah…
next hatch
Every top warrior stream I watch gets gapped so I doubt there is a "hands" issue
dull sierra
we depleted a 22 ad yesterday because the boomie stopped running away from rezan
chrome plover
yea i just like to play with apes for some reason
sames
dull sierra
and the tank did the most cursed route
chrome plover
Every top warrior stream I watch gets gapped so I doubt there is a "hands" issue
it’s wild tbh, I play with pugs and they are on the floor far below me, I play with Guildies and I’m gapped 💀
dull sierra
IM SORRY BUT HOW DO YOU DO THIS LITTLE DAMAGE IN A 22
chrome plover
skill issue
dull sierra
it’s wild tbh, I play with pugs and they are on the floor far below me, I play w...
yea it be like that
plucky ice
maybe he should turn the monitor on
warm crag
augmented 130k is popping off
dull sierra
was 153k with aug buffs
errant vessel
That’s after aug dmg is distributed to aug tbf
dull sierra
yea
warm crag
unaugmented 130k is popping off
barren dagger
2p+2p with new build sims +7k or +5% better for me vs 4p t30. seems correct?
dull sierra
yea
vocal fog
Do u guys think DH is a bit much
outer bluff
You've got to be fucking joking man
Just got into a +13 AD and my internet shits itself
eternal sundial
IM SORRY BUT HOW DO YOU DO THIS LITTLE DAMAGE IN A 22
boomie is very hard
you know this
dull sierra
Yes I am sorry
forest owl
i saw a dh rush off the platform on fyrakk last night, was satisfying to watch
hasty badger
what has a higher priority execute with sudden death or rampage (I have 4p)?
next hatch
it’s wild tbh, I play with pugs and they are on the floor far below me, I play w...
Ikr exactly xD
languid estuary
Hey guys with ST I'm looking at sims and it looks like sims prioritise waiting a GCD to build rage when you have fillers on CD over using bloodthirst before rampage to make sure your fillers are off CD to build rage. Is this correct?
(that's probably very confusing, it's late)
teal sable
So is it normal to overcap rage by a fuck ton in opener?
languid estuary
I guess what I'm asking is should I be prioritising Rampage > BT even if I know I'm going to have to wait a GCD because everything is on CD
burnt sparrow
I am afraid of asking this question, is there any SMF (hoping this way I get less hate LOL) build that works? mistakes were made and I've got 2 463 onehanders so I was wondering if I might give it a spin since it's an alt and I wouldn't be doing any real serious content so trolling a bit is alright xD
teal sable
Cause if it's BB -> Rampage -> Execute/SD rage overcaps a lottt
upper token
So... I saw someone post a screenshot of the 4p fury bonus on the french client of the game, and it says 3.1s. Went ahead and checked EN, DE & ES versions of the set and all say 2.5s. I assume it's a tooltip issue but if it's not... French OP, please nerf.
modest condor
Hey guys with ST I'm looking at sims and it looks like sims prioritise waiting a...
the sim never just waits if bloodthirst is available
clever path
I was watching revvez gameplay, he is charging into reck + BT + OF, but SD procced and he still did ramp BB ramp BB ramp BB
is it ok to ignore procs during avatar?
languid estuary
the sim never just waits if bloodthirst is available
Yeah I meant after blood bath when both ww and slam are on CD
I've been going BT > Rampage > Bloodbath when I can see that WW/Slam are still going to be on CD
But sims do the opposite and just prioritise pushing buttons
torn hawk
hello ppl this season its mastry versa ?
paper ivy
hey its the question i just wanted to ask
languid estuary
if slam, ww and bt are on cd there's not much you can do other than wait
Yeah yeah, what I'm meaning is I've been throwing in BT before rampage when it's able to be cast to stop that from happening, and I'm wondering if that's wrong
paper ivy
i went full build vers mastery with the new 4 p
then i changed to crit mastery
and i did tons more of damage
modest condor
Yeah yeah, what I'm meaning is I've been throwing in BT before rampage when it's...
if your rage is below 110 you can bt, if it's above you rampage
languid estuary
if your rage is below 110 you can bt, if it's above you rampage
sweet that's perfect
toxic grove
anyone else charging with reck and rage resets?
past pivot
i went full build vers mastery with the new 4 p
What stats do sims recommend?
modest condor
anyone else charging with reck and rage resets?
rage resets on combat start so you must be using reck too early
upbeat plume
I have 100% done that a few times its heartbreaking lol
scenic cosmos
do we go 2p 2p when possible or stay on 4p until new 4p?
hybrid carbon
do we go vers and mastery this season?
light stump
2p2p raid, stick to 4p for m+ is what people have been saying
scenic cosmos
aight thanks mate
past pivot
do we go 2p 2p when possible or stay on 4p until new 4p?
If you can play Arms, 2p+2p Arms does more damage. Otherwise 4p t30 isn’t the worst play.
clever path
in execute prio is bloodbath>execute>rampage right
warm pewter
For m+ if i have fyrakk trinket whats the best trinket to pair it with?
Strictly for m+ idgaf about raid
eager wraith
For m+ if i have fyrakk trinket whats the best trinket to pair it with?
i like vines
modest condor
might of the ocean
warm pewter
Thats the throne of tides str one?
modest condor
yeah
lament compass
Hey guys, I saw this drop, is this possibly worth instead of eye of rising flame?
I'm on my phone so i cant sim it
keen kindle
Hey guys, I saw this drop, is this possibly worth instead of eye of rising flame...
Likely not
Due to ilvl
lament compass
Ohhhhh yeah
keen kindle
The bonus is good but it's at low ilvl
eager wraith
Hey guys, I saw this drop, is this possibly worth instead of eye of rising flame...
this neck was giga bis in wrath classic for about 3 days before blizzard fixed deep wounds xD
eager wraith
The real tech is something to massage your wrists after some m+ sessions
fallow wraith
Is it worth taking wrecking throw on Fyrakk? If so, what talent do you drop from the standard T31 annihilator build for it?
oblique trail
Is it worth taking wrecking throw on Fyrakk? If so, what talent do you drop fro...
You can drop 1 point in Crushing Force for it
fallow wraith
thanks
hybrid carbon
is the stat prio vers and mast?
keen kindle
Is it worth taking wrecking throw on Fyrakk? If so, what talent do you drop fro...
Personally I say no because the shield is just a one time thing
rich storm
So was Rasz though
keen kindle
Expect raz had 3 shields
rich storm
Wait, nvm
keen kindle
Instead of one
rich storm
I'm talking out my ass
rich storm
No sleep and 14 dawn of the infinites trying to get that hourglass 😭
keen kindle
Holy shit are you okay
rich storm
I got it so no
keen kindle
LOL
oblique trail
just loot it
paper ivy
What stats do sims recommend?
vers mastery haste then crit
rich storm
I got 3 bracers and the rest was the good old 53 gold before I got that damn trinket
Hoping for a tier piece in the TW weekly next week so I can get 4piece no sweat
oblique trail
You cant get tier from timewalking
rich storm
The quest reward though?
oblique trail
yes you can't get tier from the cache
rich storm
Damnit
oblique trail
but you get another catalyst charge next reset
rich storm
yeah but with no other tier luck that'll put me at 3/4
keen kindle
I can make 3pc now, so next reset is gonna he huge
Espically after I murder fyrakk post rwf kill
rich storm
So they're definitely holding back the legendary spawn until after Mythic Fyrakk is dead, right?
oblique trail
Presumably so yes
paper ivy
yeah but with no other tier luck that'll put me at 3/4
get to 2000 io
then u can get an extra heroic piece
rich storm
Shoot I forgot you get that for free
oblique trail
assuming you played last week, 2k should be free this week
rich storm
I'm not even that far off, and I still haven't done Throne or Bloom this week
I'm at like 1875
oblique trail
depending on the key level, those 2 should get you to 2k
rich storm
I was focusing on the dungeons with actual loot for me lmao
oblique trail
I got around 75 per 20 I did on Tyr when I've already done them as 20 Forti
Not sure what you get lower than that
rich storm
Yup
true sapphire
I'm at 2038 with a mix of 13-16 and no tyrannical time for EB
It's pretty easy this season if you just run your own key.
eternal sundial
super epic ksm poggers
eternal sundial
oh yea prolly just all on 15 and u get it
true sapphire
Just run your key.
outer bluff
Lol
eternal sundial
hes not kidding
true sapphire
People are farming crests and gear, you'll usually get a couple people quick. Just take the big boys it only hurts once.
Unless you got F tier key
stark apex
if you brick squad gg go next
outer bluff
16 Tides
stark apex
it doesnt matter
outer bluff
Lmao
true sapphire
Do tides. Tides fun, it's easy clap on tyrannical until last boss. Then it's a roll of the dice with group.
stark apex
its ezpz, focus on your gameplay if you dont time, figure out if that was your fault or teams then try and fix anything you can do for the next one
true sapphire
And an untimed 16 is still gonna get you big IO if you're at a 13
stark apex
log all your runs
true sapphire
And then hope you get a 15 that gets you big IO, then hope that 16 is big IO.
stark apex
And an untimed 16 is still gonna get you big IO if you're at a 13
this also, its probably like 13 points from13 time to 16 untimed
true sapphire
I got 68 points for untimed 16, with a timed 15 for Fort week
So probably net you like 80? with a 13.
stark apex
well yea you replaced the higher it depends on the week of the 13
true sapphire
Ah gotcha
stark apex
if the 13 was this week it will be like 13 points
rich storm
Even pugging m+ without using my own keys its still possible to get into groups
Granted it takes about as long as a key would've taken most of the time
outer bluff
about to replace the 9 with a 13
rich storm
Tfw we were never flavor of the month this xpac so far 😔
outer bluff
Yeeeeh
stark apex
Even pugging m+ without using my own keys its still possible to get into groups
depends on your io and history of io not as easy for everyone or new players with bias against war for their ability to deal with mechanics but yes eventually you will get in
outer bluff
It's okay
stark apex
not bad
outer bluff
I went wrists too
stark apex
wrists are good
outer bluff
I thought that was meta
rich storm
depends on your io and history of io not as easy for everyone or new players wit...
I got 2.6k and all my portals s1 and 2 so it usually goes fast
outer bluff
Then you good
paper ivy
is that an emblishment?
stark apex
I got 2.6k and all my portals s1 and 2 so it usually goes fast
right yea thats ofc makes it easier, for someone like Change im guessing they dont have a history of higher m+ so its gonna be harder for them
paper ivy
i thought that was nerfed
rich storm
But I started out like Change, I have faith they'll get groups
stark apex
so? most people are allied wrists and patch
rich storm
Honestly I went patch on wrist and kinda regret it
stuck bison
so? most people are allied wrists and patch
Yas
true sapphire
depends on your io and history of io not as easy for everyone or new players wit...
I'm not saying I'm a great warrior, or the best, but I had 2.6K last season and people still don't want me.
stark apex
I'm not saying I'm a great warrior, or the best, but I had 2.6K last season and ...
rip the dream
rich storm
I'm not saying I'm a great warrior, or the best, but I had 2.6K last season and ...
Because we're not a meta pick so you gotta get lucky with people who aren't complete metaheads
stark apex
i rolled war for my guild the last 2 weeks of last tier but i just played with my guild and got 3k on my war so getting into groups has been quite easy in pugs for this tier
true sapphire
It took me like a month to get last season. I probably won't hit it this season, season of discovery looks too good.
rich storm
The only reason I'm proud of my last two seasonal stats is because I pugged it all
paper ivy
u are still using the t30?
outer bluff
But I started out like Change, I have faith they'll get groups
I've mostly been gearing through my guild. Done some Heroic and all of Normal
stark apex
this is what im rocking atm
@paper ivy
im playing a bit of arms/fury so my stats are p fuckin weird
rich storm
I've mostly been gearing through my guild. Done some Heroic and all of Normal
Hell yeah!
stark apex
and no vers
fickle stirrup
How does the new 4pc feel like in a M+ setting?
paper ivy
this is what im rocking atm
yeah but what are ur average dps after dungeons
rich storm
I hate vers, dumbest stat
paper ivy
130-140k?
rich storm
"It does a bit of everything"
true sapphire
Not good. I'm relying on the gear people don't need at the end of keys because I only get cloaks and bracers to drop.
patent sinew
stark apex
yeah but what are ur average dps after dungeons
very much depends on dungeon but most are around 200k dps, highest was 266k
no aug
true sapphire
I can't wrap my head around new rotation. After 4(?) seasons of Anger Management it just doesn't click for me.
paper ivy
i maxed ou t crit and mastery and i did better damage than mastery vers haste crit build
but did significtly worse on single target
rich storm
I still don't think I'm hitting BT enough
stark apex
I can't wrap my head around new rotation. After 4(?) seasons of Anger Management...
make yourself a uptime wa for stacks on tier set, still prio ramp at high rage, dont waste rage still
bloodthirst/slam/ww prio in that order
true sapphire
I just keep telling myself it will be better on tuesday. 4/4 tuesday.
paper ivy
@stark apex when bursting do u cast avatar first and then reck
stark apex
4/4 makes the build feel significantly better
paper ivy
or the otherway around
rich storm
From what I can gather having t31 4piece is kinda the break point
Being able to spam OF like we used to spam reck and ravager will make M+ packs feel good again
lavish badge
yeah you really need 4 piece for the build to feel even remotely as good as the last
stiff barn
I can have 4/4 right now, but I would need to not to take augury for it .
stark apex
<@173820039072317440> when bursting do u cast avatar first and then reck
no i usually reck charge odyns (gives ava) then spend rage and make sure i wont overcap and extend ava with actual ava
stiff barn
Unless I get lucky and get my 4th piece from lfr
stark apex
I can have 4/4 right now, but I would need to not to take augury for it .
imo get that augury
paper ivy
is there a way to make a macro which casts avatar with a 10 sec delay?
stark apex
4pc is nuts
fallow wraith
I got a second hero track Gorehowl and traded to a hunter for xmog since it's unique equipped ><
feelz bad
stark apex
but new cata charge on tuesday
paper ivy
like exactly 10 sec after casting odynsfurry
stark apex
my trinkets are not that good and my damage is showing it
stark apex
is there a way to make a macro which casts avatar with a 10 sec delay?
just track uptime of ava
rich storm
I got a second hero track Gorehowl and traded to a hunter for xmog since it's un...
Its unique equipped anyway
stark apex
and press it when your odyn ava is about to fall
fallow wraith
yeah i know, still got 447 off hand
stark apex
same
paper ivy
ok thanks
stark apex
i have ran 100 keys and still have not even see a single 2h weapon drop
not for me or anyone else
rich storm
I got so lucky week 1 with normal sword off of smolderon and heroic mace off of tree
stark apex
i got heroic 2h from gnarl week 1 so thats at least nice
rich storm
Hoping to replace sword with axe from m+
fallow wraith
gonna pray to the vault gods for weap this week, or H smolderon trink
rich storm
What's that mace that heals from again?
Saw a few people run it and it seemed like a hilarious weapon to run two of on fury
short spire
hows this so far?
stiff barn
imo get that augury
Yeah, thinking the same
rich storm
Healing allies on hit just seems funny
craggy compass
any builds that hast talents for 2set-2set??
rich storm
Ooh! Where's that from then? Like one of the anniversary bosses?
oblique trail
Nah it's from rares/superbloom/weekly quest in emerald dream
rich storm
Dang.. Running two of that would be funny
oblique trail
The shield has like negative proc rate
Through a key when I used it, it barely healed for 4-500k
patent sinew
Pretty sure it has lower dmg than normal weapon to compensate for the proc though
rich storm
Dangit, never allowed anything fun and silly
oblique trail
It does the same damage as any other 450 weapon would
patent sinew
oh.. fair
rich storm
Well naturally, but it was just the idea of healing on attacks
oblique trail
I mean for the meme sure, you could do it
Don't think it's gonna be particularly effective in any way
mint obsidian
execute or BT or rampage has prio?
rich storm
Oh for sure it'd be middling healing at best but the idea of it was fun
frail trout
this fury build feels weird to play for the uninitiated, at least against more targets it does
manic spire
feel like it feels pretty good in action, but when starting a pull without reck and low rage it feels crap to not have an instant enrage
frail trout
I feel like I'm always supposed to be pressing bloodthirst no matter what, so if I don't refresh meat cleaver with precise timing I will miss a bloodthirst press
to cast ww > rampage in aoe
you wouldn't want to cast rampage without meat cleaver up
I need more pulls to see it play out I guess
so I can predict exactly when I'll need to pre-whirlwind to make sure I don't miss BT ever
manic spire
tempted to go titanic rage for QoL
frail trout
in single target its not even a thought process
you just can always cast BT when its up
and alternate
true sapphire
The buff from OF tier set is "dancing blades"?
dense elbow
That is the node, it is something else
true sapphire
make yourself a uptime wa for stacks on tier set, still prio ramp at high rage, ...
What buff are you tracking with that WA? Dancing Blades?
covert void
fury uses slam now?
ye
subtle lagoon
I'm such a dolt, I found out I was using 3p and abberus gloves in that m+ I did yesterday 
About as well as you'd expect
More like contemplating suicide the more I played
dense elbow
"this tier is so bad, wtf, or... am I just this bad?"
covert blaze
"this tier is so bad, wtf, or... am I just this bad?"
something something 51%
outer bluff
reflecting nightmare bolt is so much fun XD
subtle lagoon
reflecting nightmare bolt is so much fun XD
I just did a run where I got all the bad shit thrown at me and no nightmare bolt.
dense elbow
At least you get shadowmeld value
oblique trail
neither triad nor pigman did a lot of damage when I did it earlier
Just interrupt/use personals
rustic latch
I did a +18 and +2 it yesterday, it felt easier than AD
barren dagger
ok maybe i just need to git gud
rustic light
hi guys, what runes should I use for m+ / raid?
wowhead says hissing/ buzzing but discord says howling / hissing
past pivot
Dreambound Augment Rune. Expensive but it more than pays for itself over time
rustic light
I mean theh weapon thingie
past pivot
Howling and Hissing have been go-to but those can be simmed. Not sure if there's a vers one
Or buzzing for crit
outer bluff
I use double hissing
rustic light
cool thanks
outer bluff
But I could be wrong xD
oblique trail
Can't really go wrong with double Hissing
outer bluff
an extra 5% mastery is always nice
clever path
Which point(s) would you drop in new build for SMF? I have accidentally got hold of a giga 1her so wanting to check if it sims higher
outer bluff
This is my ST SMF build
Raid cleave
M+
At least, this is what -I- use
Could be something better maybe
agile tiger
Smf 🤔
clever path
It was never meant to be this way, but if my current wep sims higher makes sense to use it
outer bluff
Man I've been enjoying it
wispy thistle
The 10% dps loss?
past pivot
Imagine how much enjoyment real DPS would bring
outer bluff
I still top DPS
wispy thistle
In what? A 2?
oblique trail
If you've somehow not gotten any 2handers but high ilvl 1handers, then it's very legitimiate that SMF would be simming higher
past pivot
No DHs? Or Hunters? Or dev evokers? Or TG warriors? Or rogues?
oblique trail
However that doesn't mean it's the best if you have actual gear
twilit pelican
Show logs
weak vapor
btw
long nimbus
Show the world brother, the glory of single minded fury.
outer bluff
Dude I fucking love SMF
twilit pelican
It just shows players in your guild aren’t good
outer bluff
True
twilit pelican
That’s why you’re so high in dps
past pivot
Show the world brother, the glory of single minded fury.
More like gory than glory
long nimbus
There is a lot of gore when the single minded fury warrior is done, its true
Lot of blood and dead bodies.
outer bluff
Man everyone is so negative on it. I get it's a damage loss but it's not THAT bad
past pivot
It's not THAT good, you mean 😄
long nimbus
Dude meta chasers always gonna act like they are better then fun.
outer bluff
I'm enjoying myself
weak vapor
guys i need help, rly make me frustration -.-.
Im currently ilvl 472. And got 3 set of season 3 1hero and other myth set. 1 token for rio free tier
as 2 set season 3 what spec i shud go for and stats?.. i feel i do more dmg season 2 fullset
outer bluff
My rotation could be better, to eek out more damage but overwise it's been pretty good
weak vapor
and rest gears finger etc just max ilvl
past pivot
guys i need help, rly make me frustration -.-.
Im currently ilvl 472. And got...
Wait for 4P t31. Sim for stats after that.
oblique trail
As long as you have fun and clear the content you want, then more power to you
steep fable
Might as well try it out. TBH, fury feels awful right now. Nothing like standing there and auto attacking waiting for a button to push....I mean, might as well play arms...lol
covert blaze
As long as you have fun and clear the content you want, then more power to you
Based
long nimbus
What do you mean? You don't like pressing the glowy buttons?
long nimbus
I just like hitting things and then rolling credits
covert blaze
Might as well try it out. TBH, fury feels awful right now. Nothing like standing...
If that happens to you often, you're probably just playing poorly
ornate gust
Rouges are insane damage dealers
weak vapor
Rouges are insane damage dealers
outlaw or assasin ? 😛
oblique trail
Both
outer bluff
All 3
long nimbus
I play enchance too. Of course, all I do is stromestrike
weak vapor
im noob outlaw
outer bluff
do fucktons
steep fable
If that happens to you often, you're probably just playing poorly
Not often, just often enough for me to notice and resent the death of uptime...lol
long nimbus
No totem for anyone unless it makes my stormstrike better.
weak vapor
Wait for 4P t31. Sim for stats after that.
so u mean i shud continue old season 2 ?
outer bluff
Lmao
past pivot
so u mean i shud continue old season 2 ?
Yes. Or go Arms for 2p+2P until 4P T31.
outer bluff
so u mean i shud continue old season 2 ?
I mean, 2pc is good for Amirdrassil
covert blaze
Not often, just often enough for me to notice and resent the death of uptime...l...
Have you played with windfury totem?
outer bluff
Have you played with windfury totem?
this
weak vapor
Yes. Or go Arms for 2p+2P until 4P T31.
i never plya arm kekw
Arms
i got not arms with taht xD
fury and tank
plucky egret
Have you played with windfury totem?
What is this wind fury you speak of?
keen kindle
Might as well try it out. TBH, fury feels awful right now. Nothing like standing...
Arms dosent even have that happen often
twilit pelican
Just play fury with 2set is not that bad. Make sure u have a lot of vers and mastery
outer bluff
yeh
covert blaze
What is this wind fury you speak of?
Enhancement shaman party buff
plucky egret
I was being facetious :p
steep fable
Have you played with windfury totem?
Hmmm...raid team does not have a shaman...might have to recruit one
clever path
windfury massive for fury this patch
plucky egret
My raid team has no monk nor enhancement shaman
outer bluff
True
outer bluff
My raid team just made an enhance for clears and we are recruiting an aug
I'm about to pump next week
covert blaze
Hmmm...raid team does not have a shaman...might have to recruit one
Ok so you don't know how it plays in a real scenario then
steep fable
fair
clever path
found it nvm
covert blaze
You're just complaining for fun
past pivot
Anyone know if queueing for a heroic dungeon gives many flightstones? Or it just easier to spam 2s?
covert blaze
Anyone know if queueing for a heroic dungeon gives many flightstones? Or it just...
Not anymore, you get like 40 for the last boss or something
outer bluff
Probably easier to spam 2s
clever path
spec prot
modest condor
can anyone link the spell reflect spreadsheet
it's in the pins
steep fable
You're just complaining for fun
You think we are better than season 2?
covert blaze
You think we are better than season 2?
Better at what
steep fable
Better at what
Putting up damage numbers obv
covert blaze
I didn't play early S2 I couldn't tell you
steep fable
I didn't play early S2 I couldn't tell you
They will always be the glory days of 99+% uptime 
twilit pelican
Fury is kinda okey now. I’m always top5 in my CE guild and I just had only 2 set
outer bluff
I have looked at that
If I can't get Rezan's eye, I might try and roll for it in guild clears xD
if it drops
I already have Signet
hasty tree
Is fury or arms better on fyrak hc?
outer bluff
Arms is just better than fury period rn, afaik
twilit pelican
play what u feel better in
outer bluff
^
twilit pelican
arms fury almost no diff tbh
arctic stone
can any1 help me what stats should i prioritize now? https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/pyrimidine
dull sierra
sim urself
outer bluff
I just have heard a lot of complaining about fury and how arms is better, so I assumed xD
arctic stone
i have 441|447 ring with sockets and trying to sim any 473 ring give me negative dps
twilit pelican
@arctic stone sim
dull sierra
its not
outer bluff
i have 441|447 ring with sockets and trying to sim any 473 ring give me negative...
What are the ring stats
generally if the ring has crit, it will sim like shit
arctic stone
haste mastery
twilit pelican
What are your stats now?
outer bluff
Haste also has a point here it's not as good and it's better to go vers
arctic stone
What are your stats now?
in combat like this + sandglas 489
past pivot
Arms is just better than fury period rn, afaik
I bet that changes with more people at 4p and better gear. See how this coming week goes
astral path
chrome plover
Arms is just better than fury period rn, afaik
fury performs better on a lot of the bosses, and probably slightly better in m+(?) just performs quite a bit worse without 4p
outer bluff
Yeah, that's fair
quiet oak
BT/BB , Rampage or Execute proc has prio?
Rampage so it procs BB. Exec if nothing is up
outer bluff
I just heard a lot of complaint from people who play fury... but granted that's before they have 4p
chrome plover
yeah
people do need to chill about that lmaoo
so much complaining in here for the past week
outer bluff
Yeahhh
mint obsidian
Rampage so it procs BB. Exec if nothing is up
so exec is just filler like slam?
outer bluff
Pretty much
mint obsidian
ah ok
hollow ridge
is the fury rotation easier/harder than last season
chrome plover
so exec is just filler like slam?
has higher prio than slam and ww though
outer bluff
Yes
frail trout
when do you use spear in your 4p fury opener for single target?
mint obsidian
has higher prio than slam and ww though
yeah
twilit pelican
when do you use spear in your 4p fury opener for single target?
never go roar
chrome plover
is the fury rotation easier/harder than last season
about the same tbh
outer bluff
It's generally first priority over the other fillers
past pivot
Let's complain about flightstones instead. I need almost 6,000 of them to upgrade all of my current equipped gear ...
mint obsidian
opener is Avatar, Reck, Spear , OF, Ramp, BB ?
outer bluff
when do you use spear in your 4p fury opener for single target?
I usually use it right after charge Reck+Odyns
chrome plover
Let's complain about flightstones instead. I need almost 6,000 of them to upgrad...
yeah I got shafted by flightstones this reset…
keys all day tomorrow I guess
hollow ridge
guys, avatar before reckless? and do I wait for enrage -> odyn's (wait 4 seconds) -> avatar
twilit pelican
reck before charge then odyns and 4 sec later avatar
past pivot
And I've been upgrading diligently. As much as I can
hollow ridge
thank you 🙂
chrome plover
opener is Avatar, Reck, Spear , OF, Ramp, BB ?
reck > charge > of > spear > (3-4 seconds) > avatar
mint obsidian
reck > charge > of > spear > (3-4 seconds) > avatar
oh ok
warm crag
do you even need reck charge w/ RA
frail trout
is there actually a reason to reck before charge in a rotation using spear that early
you will hit rage cap from spear
outer bluff
opener is Avatar, Reck, Spear , OF, Ramp, BB ?
I do Reck+OF, spear, then Rampage, BB, Rampage, BB, Avatar, Rampage, BB repeat
mint obsidian
why do we reck before charge?
chrome plover
do you even need reck charge w/ RA
yeah you have to wait for an auto if you reck after charge
🤓
warm crag
fair enough
chrome plover
why do we reck before charge?
double rage from charge
mint obsidian
double rage from charge
amazing
chrome plover
so you can ramp first global
hollow ridge
do we just count 4 seconds or is there a WA worth using?
twilit pelican
i mean couting to 4 is easy
frail trout
ah right you need the ramp first global cuz this build has no enrage steroid
outer bluff
double rage from charge
I'll have to implement this
chrome plover
do we just count 4 seconds or is there a WA worth using?
just roughly tbh it doesn’t matter if it’s 3-3.5-4
hollow ridge
ok
rigid sorrel
I may have a stupid question, but since when does whirlwind has a cooldown on Fury?
chrome plover
ah right you need the ramp first global cuz this build has no enrage steroid
yep, with titans fury of enrages you, but dancing blades doesn’t
hollow ridge
Reck -> Charge -> Odyn -> (4s of filler) -> Avatar
chrome plover
I may have a stupid question, but since when does whirlwind has a cooldown on Fu...
It’s the talent below annihilator I think
that you take with new build
outer bluff
It’s the talent below annihilator I think
Right above
rigid sorrel
Ooh gotta check that
outer bluff
But yes
mint obsidian
is there any dif if we spear before of?
chrome plover
somewhere around annihilator lol
rigid sorrel
Thanks guys I was wondering, lmao... Mythic Raider btw Kekw
outer bluff
It's called like Sword something
chrome plover
is there any dif if we spear before of?
initial hit of spear will be lower because of procs avatar but it probably doesn’t make much of a diff at all
chrome plover
It's called like Sword something
Storm of swords I think
outer bluff
That's the name
rotund steppe
initial hit of spear will be lower because of procs avatar but it probably doesn...
so when do you send spear?
mint obsidian
initial hit of spear will be lower because of procs avatar but it probably doesn...
oh gotcha
chrome plover
so when do you send spear?
after of
halcyon hollow
anyone an idea why they play fury and not arms on fyrakk mythic?
outer bluff
It's better
chrome plover
anyone an idea why they play fury and not arms on fyrakk mythic?
burst aoe is important
mint obsidian
best alliance race for war? 
chrome plover
best alliance race for war? <:ZOOMEReyes:721123810992062506>
human or dwarf
halcyon hollow
burst aoe is important
alright, ty vm
outer bluff
best alliance race for war? <:ZOOMEReyes:721123810992062506>
Human
warm crag
no reason to prog on an execute class when your best attempt is 60%
frail trout
that too
outer bluff
I play Velf
chrome plover
but it doesn’t really matter just play what you like the look of
mint obsidian
human or dwarf
cant decideeeee between the two
wild mural
human or dwarf
Dwarf
summer quail
2.3% damage, not that bad actually
hollow ridge
need WA for when to consume reckless abandon buff or is it we just use bloodbath whenever its available?
mint obsidian
I play Velf
i hate BE model 😦 i think Velf share the same model
wild mural
warm crag
dwarf and its not even close
wild mural
No question
outer bluff
i hate BE model 😦 i think Velf share the same model
Yeah they do
chrome plover
cant decideeeee between the two
I mean, I play goblin and always will
outer bluff
Hot
mint obsidian
dwarf for life
frail trout
I just went dwarf but I don't have any mog that I like yet for it
outer bluff
I mean, I play goblin and always will
Gobs are life
frail trout
stuck using this preorder stuff for now
chrome plover
Gobs are life
real
mint obsidian
stuck using this preorder stuff for now
😄
hollow ridge
do we just use bloodbath whenever its available as #1 priority?
frail trout
mint obsidian
gnome feels nice too?
frail trout
I'm sure the correct answer is "don't put yourself in this situation"
but if I'm rage capped and I still didn't spend my bloodbath charge
I'm pressing that right?
before rampage
chrome plover
ya
frail trout
only happens during CDs
outer bluff
Yeah, BB is your top damage
outer bluff
Yes
chrome plover
and it does happen with rampage proccing a lot during reck
mint obsidian
BB = baby?
chrome plover
sometimes unavoidable
mint obsidian
😂
outer bluff
BB = baby?
😉
hollow ridge
thx
mint obsidian
bb always top damage, top wallet damage
outer bluff
Facts
mint obsidian
its always crit
frail trout
I did a one min pull on the 5 aoe target dummies to see what it feels like and
gushing wound healed me for 3x my health bar
in 1:11
lol
outer bluff
Dude yeah
Gushing wounds heals so much
These are my healing parses on normal
Lmao
chrome plover
why do your purples look so bright and how do I make mine look like that
mint obsidian
These are my healing parses on normal
damn
chrome plover
I’m colourblind and purple vs blue is just gg
outer bluff
Idk I think it's a phone thing
chrome plover
but yours is so clear
hollow ridge
why does your 94.8 look green change
hollow ridge
oh ok 😦
chrome plover
it definitely doesn’t look green
outer bluff
D:
mint obsidian
Gushing Wound is talent?
outer bluff
Yuh
hollow ridge
this new build +2 tier + new s3 gear sims me for +25% dps wth
outer bluff
Yeah
mint obsidian
this new build +2 tier + new s3 gear sims me for +25% dps wth
which new build
outer bluff
2p is strong
outer bluff
hollow ridge
exe > bloodthirst > slam is the order of filler?
mint obsidian
jesus
mint obsidian
has different name
outer bluff
yeh
mint obsidian
i thought i was looking for gushing wounds
outer bluff
xD
mint obsidian
lool
mint obsidian
thx 🙂
outer bluff
np!
mint obsidian
chest enchantment is str or walking stats?
outer bluff
Waking stats
lament crane
How much lower does raging blow sum compared to annihilator? I don’t care about topping charts just don’t find annihilator fun
stark apex
What buff are you tracking with that WA? Dancing Blades?
yo sorry thanksgiving cooking got me running back and forth but spell id is 423211
frail trout
is there a choice weakaura I can grab in one of the resource channels for the 2p bonus tracker?
valid drum
How much lower does raging blow sum compared to annihilator? I don’t care about ...
Use the macro on pins and be happy
warm crag
Use the macro on pins and be happy
the macro won't fix the foundational issues the anni playstyle has
valid drum
Which are?
warm crag
dead air in my class that historically does not have dead air
hollow ridge
raging blow icon much more beautiful fuck slam
lament crane
I prefer raging blow and slaughtering strikes for rampage I just wish they made OF affect either bloodthirsty or RB
valid drum
I mean, yesterday was my first night using the new set. Between exec, bt, slam and ww I didn't have any empty gcds
hollow ridge
is prior order for filler abilities exe > bt > slam > ww?
valid drum
That's what I've been doing, but I suck, so not a good parameter
warm crag
looks good
hollow ridge
good enough, ill suck less than I do rn. thx 🙂
outer bluff
Yeah, that's a good prio list tbh
oblique trail
dead air in my class that historically does not have dead air
there's never dead air when I'm around you
rotund ginkgo
guys is the ST opener any different from M+/AOE opener?
UWU
or is it the same just replace roar with spear
since u kinda want to spear before other stuff
correct or wrong?
warm crag
are you playing dancing blades
warm crag
p sure you throw the spear earlier
warm crag
ye so do that
ebon shore
which emblishment should i go for on my cloak? on wowhead theres 3 options not sure which is the best (for raiding mostly)
rugged tartan
I do OF get my first rampage going then pop all the cd's so I use all 6 BT inside avatar and reck
warm crag
what options does wowhead say for cloak what
rotund ginkgo
ye so do that
safe bet then?
rotund ginkgo
I do OF get my first rampage going then pop all the cd's so I use all 6 BT insid...
so u OF before being enraged? 
warm crag
I do OF get my first rampage going then pop all the cd's so I use all 6 BT insid...
mm yes we love unenraged odyns fury
wild mural
mm yes we love unenraged odyns fury
Let him cook
rugged tartan
Well I don't know what's 100 % the best way. I'm just doing it like that cause most of the dmg is from BT.
rotund ginkgo
mosto f the damage is from ofdyns fury
thats ur hardest hitting ability
and u made it hit 50% less hard
rugged tartan
Still getting decent logs 🤣
hollow ridge
where is raging blow icon i cant find it anywhere : (
rotund ginkgo
rugged tartan
?
warm crag
safe bet then?
looks mostly accurate
rugged tartan
Well not saying I'm right at all ? Maybe I can do 100 logs if I change something ?
rotund ginkgo
we told u what the fix was
rampage before odyns
ur making odyns hit like 55% less hard
ur first prio is always to be enraged
rugged tartan
But don't we waste the BT dmg then? 🤷♂️
rugged tartan
Or am I wrong here ?
warm crag
good chance you're not even using dancing blades
rotund ginkgo
whats ur talents
he is.. @warm crag
legit unenraged odyn's
i sometimes whiff and hit it and i wanna cringe as soon as i do
hollow ridge
how do u quickly get enrage before using odyns on ur opener ragish?
rotund ginkgo
in fact, i do cringe