#fury

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topaz dock
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I did fine with it

mellow nebula
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i play 2/2 with new talents and it feels weird, but I am afraid it will be even clunkier when odyn CD is getting reduced and its not aligned with other CDs on 1,30min

fiery storm
# topaz dock I did fine with it

no u didnt and if u did u had way better gear than everyone else lol im with the SAME group and everyone is doing better than me i i was consistently top dps last season

buoyant salmon
mellow nebula
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ah true I guess 😄 and how approx does it line with other CDs? Do you fit like 2 OFs then hold a bit for CDs or?

olive wraith
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What was your group comp

digital bronze
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Do you want to try to OF in avatar when you are later into the fight?

buoyant salmon
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idk

digital bronze
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Like after avatar procced OF dot wears off

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I guess you never hold OF though so only if it lines up that way and not deliberately?

buoyant salmon
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alway

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s

gilded pawn
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Never hold odyns

digital bronze
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If it comes up while avatar buff is active though

dull gate
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is cataclysmic signet brand doing correct dmg? it feels weak as fuck

digital bronze
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I mean I guess my question is moot actually

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You just press it nvm

covert blaze
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OF gives you avatar

whole silo
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should i get SF cloak or allied wrists first??

dense elbow
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yes

whole silo
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was that to my question?

dense elbow
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yes

dawn pivot
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so rage dumping isnt as important now

dense elbow
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yep

olive wraith
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You don’t overcap as much as season 1

dawn pivot
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and whats the opener? I still dont get why not use avatar/reck together or why use avatar after odyns fury?

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imagine I got 4p

olive wraith
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You want to put OF on cooldown asap

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Rek into charge means you get enough rage to ramp first gcd

restive peak
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And yeah you press odyns on CD, to answer the other question

errant bronze
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sup all been away since may feel like i forgot everything whats the current top loadouts for m+ and the new raid?

olive wraith
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Check through wowhead

split comet
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Should berserker stance affect annihilator? I don't think it does currently

dawn pivot
olive wraith
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What’s not

restive peak
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Annihilator is not an auto, it functions as if you used RB but is passive

olive wraith
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Also that response wasn’t for you

split comet
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tool tip confusing, says "your auto attacks do additional x dmg"

olive wraith
split comet
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so was wondering if berserk stance was supposed to buff it

restive peak
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But it functions like RB

split comet
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ya makes sense

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just wording

neon musk
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Bloodbath>execute?

olive wraith
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Ya

restive peak
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Blizzard and tooltips brotherrrrr

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BB > everything unless not enraged and have ramp up

dense elbow
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Think BT, X, BT, and you are 99% there

limpid karma
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hows the fury set compared to arms

split comet
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but you execute even if yooure not enraged according to the guide is that right?

restive peak
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You always want enrage

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Whether that’s ramp or BT

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But if you have neither up, and are not enraged, yes you’d send execute > slam > ww

whole silo
neon musk
fiery storm
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id love to sim rn but idk how to change specs in the sim lmfao

restive peak
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They’re basically equal, IMO vers bracers are better for AOE + surviving and there is A LOT of passive damage this season, both in raid and m+

fiery storm
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like idk when to break 4pc t30

dawn pivot
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rampage>bloodbath?

glacial smelt
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Hey guys what is the recommended M+ specc atm? Arms/fury or are both equal?

split comet
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i went bracers since bracers is good for arms too

restive peak
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But technically, 2nd SF is a slight DPS increase on ST only

fiery storm
light tapir
split comet
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i meant vers bracers

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the allied w/e

restive peak
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I went vers bracers and think it’s the better play

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But SF is a slight ST upgrade

glacial smelt
young swan
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play whichever u enjoy more

errant bronze
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is shockwave even useful? just ran a whole rotation with it and never needed to use it

fiery storm
errant bronze
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hell i felt like it would interupt the rotation more than its worth

balmy belfry
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do we break 4pc t30 for 2/4 each?

glacial smelt
restive peak
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Shockwave is for control, not damage

young swan
errant bronze
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fair

young swan
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yeah its definitely not for damage

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its just an aoe stop

fiery storm
# balmy belfry do we break 4pc t30 for 2/4 each?

honestly id say yes just but from experience idc what ANYONE is saying im t30 rn and am consistently bottom dps so switching shouldnt make u worse and will only help u prep for when uget 4pc lmao

balmy belfry
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same

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but feels like im missing buttons without RB xD

restive peak
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POG holding the #1 m+ down still xD

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Expected someone to pass me while I was with clients

slim coral
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liquid went dark baby

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it's joever

restive peak
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They’re in P2 now right?

slim coral
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they reached it before they stopped yeah

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then they did some m+ normal splits

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and got back together and decided to go dark

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before pulling again

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which makes sense

restive peak
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I don’t blame them

cinder gust
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is there a specific reason for this?

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I assume its just shit weapons hurts fury even more than hurts arms?

dawn pivot
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when I got odyns proc for 3x BT crit, I want rampage before that right?

topaz dock
cinder gust
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yes single target

topaz dock
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Ok, blood bath crits 350k, BT crits 83k with the proc.

slim coral
rare fjord
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words cannot describe how wrong it feels to use slam in fury

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it is aesthetically offensive

young swan
cinder gust
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oh I thought I imported talents right

errant bronze
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@slim coral what build is that?

errant pond
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Can someone sim patchwork 5 bosses for 2 mins I wanna see if mine is low

slim coral
young swan
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@slim coral did u name change?

slim coral
young swan
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or is that just a random

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oh okay

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random

slim coral
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I'm still farming for rings

safe charm
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Odysn fury build - Can you keep up with damage on all packs? without cds it feels wack

errant bronze
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thats single target?

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dang

dawn pivot
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is rampage>bloodbath?

compact mulch
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I know it’s probs been asked before but do we drop last season 4p for current 2p?

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Or wait till we get 4p

young swan
young swan
formal verge
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Hello Friends - is there any solid WA to track the stacks for the Odyn Fury empowred BT?

dawn pivot
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for me 2p sims better than 4p T30

young swan
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again - they're close, but t31 feels not very good without the 4p

compact mulch
young swan
dawn pivot
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Luxthos wa tracks it

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should I use my BT stacks if I didnt make them bloodbath?

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or should I keep them and use slam/ww to get fury for rampage -> bloodbath?

marble schooner
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so i read the guide on wowhead rq, but just in case, is 2p + 2p better than 4p of last tier right?

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new bonus is way better it seems

fiery storm
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idk but im gunna prob swap cause this old build etc is way too weak ppl r too strong rn

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doing doody dps

marble schooner
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yah i feel old build is hitting less this patch? idk if it was nerfed ive been very disconnected

fiery storm
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i think other ppl r just too strong rn

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and u seem weaker

dawn pivot
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I sim 15k more with 2p

fiery storm
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cause i can put up big numbers ppl r just putting up BIGGER numbers lol

fiery storm
olive wraith
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Run 2 diff sims

dawn pivot
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yeah and then compare

fiery storm
errant bronze
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someone with high gear sim this build real quick i randomly found it from last season and its simming as better in M+ than anything else i have

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BgEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7HAAAAAAAAAAQggSCQEkiIIRBEiARSkkkWSkEJIEJJRKBIJSSAAAAQQA

olive wraith
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That’s basically the t30 build

olive wraith
rich storm
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Haste is worth less than previously right? I think i still have way too much

olive wraith
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Sims know best

rich storm
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Yeah I should do that

spare otter
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this sucks man

regal mesa
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yoo im new coming back to fury, is there a difference in 2 1 handers vs 2-2handers?

young swan
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yeah 2 1h does worse damage

barren ore
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what 1 handers?

clever belfry
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smf = cringe & unbased

regal mesa
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i have the wep from fyrak

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1hand

dawn pivot
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does odyns fury really overwrite avatars stuff?

buoyant salmon
dawn pivot
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I see top dps ppl rotation and they cast avatar+odyns fury all time

clever belfry
buoyant salmon
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well

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the dot on the enemies will be refreshed

keen stone
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did afenar update his warrior WA package or does anyone know if he plans to for new patch?

dawn pivot
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so why should I wait and not use avatar after odyns fury

clever belfry
young swan
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to maximize dancing blades uptime or to consume all of the ww stacks from titanic rage

dawn pivot
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I can gather 6 stacks

clever belfry
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fuck titanic rage

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all my homies play FM+DB

young swan
dawn pivot
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isnt it better when dancing blades stick with avatar?

young swan
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its also wrong

clever belfry
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(i dont have set, it just worked better on ptr)

young swan
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feels like u think we're holding it for like 10

dawn pivot
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hmm

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so I guess just for one rampage/BT combo?

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I assume I shouldnt waste the stacks on BT, wait for rampage and then use critstack with bloodbath?

young swan
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i think u do 2 rotations of ramp -> bb

clever belfry
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stacks go to 6

dawn pivot
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but is it worth waiting using slam instead of spending the stack?

young swan
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but idk

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i havent played with it enough

fallen pivot
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Do I swap at 2 or 4pc to use annihilator?

spare otter
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this build is fun

clever belfry
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@young swan gear and progress check

spare otter
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but when you have nothing to press

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omfg i want to shoot myself

warm crag
young swan
clever belfry
warm crag
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rolled

oblique trail
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ok anda

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it's time to stop

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!!

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you are being TOO rude to spongie right now!

warm crag
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this man crafted mythic bracers ..

young swan
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hopefully get nymue tonight

clever belfry
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nice 486 craft

young swan
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ty

warm crag
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ring check

oblique trail
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🐀

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clever belfry
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I will report u to the crest police

young swan
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yeah didnt loot any good rings...

clever belfry
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@warm crag wep check

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nerd

warm crag
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crying

clever belfry
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shouldve taken the bet

warm crag
clever belfry
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it would've dropped

buoyant salmon
clever belfry
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andaxd has better wep

warm crag
buoyant salmon
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(getting omegafarmed by smolderon :3)

young swan
buoyant salmon
young swan
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die split raider

clever belfry
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we are 8 and we are 4/9

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noober!!

warm crag
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noob!

young swan
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gg

buoyant salmon
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eta gg

clever belfry
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okay this upcoming week we are 12

warm crag
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dont tell them

clever belfry
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cause we are not 2 day

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do not believe the lies.

fossil goblet
oblique trail
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can't believe this

warm crag
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true we are a 1 day guild now

oblique trail
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was about to apply to tutle

warm crag
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we raid 12 hours one day and then we afk

oblique trail
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but this is too much

buoyant salmon
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rezans lowkey dogshit

clever belfry
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banezi new pfp arc again

young swan
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are anda + spongie same guild

oblique trail
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they are

young swan
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that is so epic

clever belfry
young swan
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collab of the century

clever belfry
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more brown men

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Well

warm crag
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soon they wont be because spongiewarr will be gkicked due to lack of weapons

oblique trail
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I don't think I will be accepted even if I did!!

clever belfry
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cause of that

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jm on fucking aug

young swan
clever belfry
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So id rather we weren't

oblique trail
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if you are stuck in simp jail

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then I will apply

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to laugh at your misfortune

young swan
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beanzabi so mean

oblique trail
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I odn't mean it

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@clever belfry 👑

clever belfry
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King

oblique trail
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he's doing the job

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that no one wants to

clever belfry
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please do laugh at me

oblique trail
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and if they say they will they are LYING

warm crag
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i think anda quits the game if he isnt released from aug jail the day fyrakk dies

clever belfry
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i said "yeah i can play it for prog without MAYBE wanting to end it"

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and im on aug

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my gm is not conscious of my wellbeing and safety

oblique trail
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the only thing gms care about is world ranks

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you are all just a means to an end

clever belfry
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im a tool

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and not the sharpest in the shed

warm crag
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i shouldve been yellow

oblique trail
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we all should've

summer quail
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any smart person would've gone yellow

warm crag
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but playing a spec that isnt brown man after only having played brown is scary

fiery storm
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if you had to use catalyst for 2pc , what would u use it on if u had head ...i dont wana use it this early but i cant stnd t30 rn

oblique trail
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don't worry yellow man is not scary

summer quail
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i can't lose spell reflect, i'm too addicted

warm crag
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it is if your caustic splatter nameplate thing doesnt work

oblique trail
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fix it!!

warm crag
summer quail
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crushing depths sr in throne gives me happy chemicals

warm crag
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cant even consistently do that anymore

oblique trail
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So either if you get 2 more tokens this week or wait for next reset since it's another catalyst token

summer quail
warm crag
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yeah losing it would make it recast

clever belfry
warm crag
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so your ranged would just los the cast until it hit brown man

clever belfry
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everyones gotta start multiclassing at some point

warm crag
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now its just a 1/4 lottery

summer quail
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oh shit did not know that

warm crag
warm crag
summer quail
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unfortunate

clever belfry
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I was forced on tourney realm...

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'ate it

oblique trail
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'ate multiclassing

fiery storm
warm crag
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idk multiclassing is just shit cause you always feel inferior on the second class until ur bis

fiery storm
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and im not getting tier

summer quail
fiery storm
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so im not waiting 3 weeks to get 4pc

summer quail
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such a dumb spec

fiery storm
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may as well switch classes at that point lol

warm crag
fiery storm
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so bad rn

oblique trail
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I mean either raid with a guild or keep doing pugs and hope you win tokens

clever belfry
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'ate me loif
'ate me woif
'ate nameclassers
'ate aug

oblique trail
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not sure what to say apart from that

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switching class wont magically make tier appear in your bags

fiery storm
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theres not much to say lol i didnt ask for the smart play i asked for what youd pick if u had to use the token haha

clever belfry
oblique trail
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idk if you are absolutely dead set on using the catalyst do it on at least a hero track item, ideally a mythic track

oblique trail
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little baby

clever belfry
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on hunter?

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nk

oblique trail
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by the game

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If I do not acquire 4p from tomorrows normal clear

clever belfry
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yeah it knew i needed a break

oblique trail
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I will punch my monitor I swear!

summer quail
clever belfry
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i have igira+larodar hc, normal up to smolder and lfr left to get ANY tier piece on war

oblique trail
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Alreayd did LFR

clever belfry
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For 4pc

oblique trail
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and got brand

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(it's a downgrade for Arms)

clever belfry
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Well and tindral + fyrakk hc

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but ain't doing that this week on browny

oblique trail
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Fyrakk HC pugging so fun

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bet you will enjoy it

clever belfry
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im not in the country

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Friday to Monday

oblique trail
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laptop or?

clever belfry
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i am at 2x12h raves

oblique trail
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I don't see the issue

clever belfry
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i am taking laptop to do my weeb game dailies

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that's it

oblique trail
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very good priorities

slim coral
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How come hunters get uncapped aoe and we get a 5 maxed out WW

oblique trail
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brown class bad!

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so bad!

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buff now!

clever belfry
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real

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beast cleave is softcap 8 no?

gilded pawn
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think its soft 8

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or soft 5

clever belfry
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stomp was proper uncap tho

spare otter
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so at what lvl of keys should you only accept 4p people?

gilded pawn
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whatever you like

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its your key

young swan
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i did 20's with last seasons gear

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so

gilded pawn
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xan

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boost me

young swan
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are u NA

gilded pawn
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yes

young swan
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oh wtf

gilded pawn
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my rogue doesnt have ANY tier though

spare otter
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well i just did a 23 and i feel like you need 4p healers?

young swan
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i thought u were EU

gilded pawn
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so i may as well be in china

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no

young swan
gilded pawn
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d2 makes me play aram with him on eu

spare otter
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yea no wonder that went to shit lol

gilded pawn
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23 is pretty cutting edge right now

young swan
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yeah 23 is very high atm

gilded pawn
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consdiering top keys are 25

hallow sphinx
olive wraith
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I just need godamn invites

spare otter
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tbf it wasnt too bad until healer couldnt keep up

rich storm
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Fury and warrior in general havent gotten any meaningful buffs this entire xpac

olive wraith
young swan
hallow sphinx
young swan
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YURKEY

gilded pawn
hallow sphinx
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🐴

young swan
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!

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chop chop!

covert blaze
olive wraith
brittle crow
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so what do i do if i have a charge of tier up but no bb charge and not enough rage to ramp

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just send bt?

olive wraith
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Heals feel good

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Do you have slam/ww

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Off cd

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Press those first imo

sullen spoke
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Can anyone explain why my new 4 piece sims lower with the new build than my old 4 pc with the old build?

hallow sphinx
olive wraith
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There’s most likely something wrong with your sim

sullen spoke
gilded pawn
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probably should isolate the sim

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theres too many things going on here

sullen spoke
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sorry, what does that mean? 😅

olive wraith
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Do one sim in one build

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Then run a second one

brittle crow
olive wraith
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a 3 paragraph essay to support ur answer

brittle crow
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wow ..

olive wraith
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I can

brittle crow
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thank u

rich storm
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Hmm.. Couldnt we get craftes boots instead of cloak? Or are the crafted boots worse than catalyst ones somehow?

olive wraith
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You could. But the reason we picking cloak is because it has less stats

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And crafting can’t go highest ilvl

balmy shore
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does anyone else notice on volocross if you start your charge too far back you straight up take a whole left turn before going straight? 💀

rich storm
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Ahh right right for some reason my brain latched on to 'dont craft weapon they bad now' as only the weapons being bad

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I mentioned it because I got a p good cloak early on

silk wharf
olive wraith
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Well weapon is also expensive

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2 sparks this early is a lot

balmy shore
long nimbus
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We doing single minded fury yet, fellow warriors?

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My brethren and sisteren?

warm crag
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no

long nimbus
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I want to scream a expletive in all caps, but the server wont let me.

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It's very un-warrior like of the server.

warm crag
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you can do smf if you want

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its not optimal but its viable i guess

oblique trail
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spongie go loot fyrakk axe and be smf

olive wraith
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Automod is pretty common for large servers

long nimbus
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It's un-warrior like. Rage should flow freely

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And so should stupidity.

olive wraith
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You can rage

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Just don’t use a nono word

long nimbus
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FUDGE YOU MOTHER FUDGER.

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It don't hit the same...

olive wraith
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Can you not say fuck

long nimbus
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No

olive wraith
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See

long nimbus
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Mother wont let me.

modest condor
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unfortunate

fiery storm
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anyone know if there is a WA for the 3 BTs after OF?

hallow sphinx
olive wraith
rich storm
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Hm.. I wasn't that far off of what my sim says I should be doing so I guess I can feel less terrible about that

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Really need to wrap my head around this rotation change

fiery storm
olive wraith
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It takes some time

long nimbus
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@hallow sphinx You are a god amoung warriors

hallow sphinx
young swan
young swan
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i promise he doesnt need it

balmy shore
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i wanna be like gajeel when i grow up

hallow sphinx
hallow sphinx
jolly topaz
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warrior fury is no longer using 2 shadow flame Embellishments items?

sudden tusk
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also xan

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took 29 runs

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but got it

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: )

young swan
sudden tusk
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2 catalyst charges and mastery token next week

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ill finally get given a tier token for 4 piece

young swan
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surely

modest condor
sudden tusk
dark flower
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gotta love when ppl in your raid can't stack spears properly and assassinate your 100 parse HyperRatJam

rustic latch
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getting better and better

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fiery storm
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i feel like mythic+ is a lot more competitive on dmg than raid , lol

brittle crow
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not reck abandon bt

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tier bt, not bb

modest condor
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slam is ahead of tier bt

brittle crow
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and execute too i assume

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what about whirlwind

modest condor
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the apl has tier bt ahead of whirlwind but i havent personally checked if it's better

brittle crow
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in aoe tier bt def better id assume

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cuz u wanna use ww exactly every 5 gcds

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so basically if u have tier charges u want to only use them on bb whenever possible

rich marlin
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council fight seems really hard to use multi target build on is single target the way to go on that fight?

brittle crow
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no u def want to use multi target build

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if ur tank is good its p much always 2 targets

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or more if lucky

brave stream
brittle crow
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is ur tank afk perhaps

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that is the whole point of the bear

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that he moves

restive peak
covert blaze
lime anvil
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Yo quick question is it worth changing out the old 4 set for new 2 set?

coral galleon
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are we running 2p/2p currently? or waiting for 4p

restive peak
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LOL

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Fair point xD

brittle crow
coral galleon
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running t31 build at 2p2p?

brittle crow
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yes

coral galleon
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awesome ty

brittle crow
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its kinda gross but its still good

brave stream
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I agree. Although I preferred to play t30 till t31 was complete lol at least in keys.

safe osprey
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Should I be using the t31 build if I only have 2pc? or should I wait until 4pc?

brave stream
covert blaze
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I'm playing 2p2p in keys and I hate it but not more than I would hate still playing t30 okayge

coral galleon
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i might just run t30 build for mythics til i get 4p but t31 for raid

pure echo
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Since fury stat prio has changed which 2 stats are safe to go if you plan to play arms and fury in raid?

brave stream
young swan
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arms sims like 5k behind or smth

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that said both of my weapons are off stats

coral galleon
#

anyone got a new WA for t31?

modest condor
#

my stats are amazing

#

i think im at like 36% crit

#

as fury

coral galleon
#

thought you didnt want high crit?

red berry
#

you want whatever your sim tells you you want

#

and the value of crit has gone up

#

my sim definitely is feeding me more crit now

pure echo
young swan
#

192 for fury, 187 for arms

olive wraith
#

Arms wants more mastery this season I think

young swan
#

mastery is fine for what im playing arms for

#

which is m+ and council

olive wraith
#

Haven’t tried arms with 2p yet

spare otter
meager void
pure echo
#

im curious why your arms sims are so low

covert blaze
olive wraith
#

Idk it seems okay to me

#

Can’t wait to blast 20s of though

young swan
spare otter
#

Ok

#

That's crazy

#

I'm 470 and I'm simming 160k as fury

young swan
#

my friend is 475 and sims for 205k

spare otter
#

Bruh wtf

young swan
#

oh mb 202k

spare otter
#

I'm guessing it's just stat/trinket diff

#

?

young swan
#

can take a look

spare otter
#

Oh yea ok he's basically bis in every slot

young swan
#

hes very powerful

spare otter
#

Yea pretty insane

restive peak
#

Gajeel and I sim the same and he woops my ass, I thought I was good sadness

young swan
#

gajeel is very powerful on the brown man

restive peak
#

JK hes a machine

spare otter
#

Maybe I should start doing lower-ish keys to try get some more drops

dull gate
#

anyone else feel like t31 4pc feels awful to play? just slow and clunky

spare otter
#

I really like the way it plays

young swan
#

i like it

spare otter
#

But the few times where u have nothing to press is aids sure

covert blaze
dull gate
#

maybe its because packs aren't living long enough, but going into a pack without OF or Avatar up feels superbad

brittle crow
#

does non-tier bt take prio over ramp at 130 rage?

#

for the cooldown reduction

modest condor
#

imagine simming over 175k

#

this was brought to you by the i-dont-have-wft gang

keen kindle
#

LMAO

modest condor
#

damn you have the everbloom trinket simming that high?

brittle crow
keen kindle
#

I have nothing to replace it

brittle crow
#

also whats the opener when using dancing blades

#

how do u get enraged

#

oh right rage generation with reckless abandon

sour frigate
keen kindle
#

Well that's for arms

#

I just wanted to prove a point LMAo

brittle crow
#

does slam outprio ramp if not going to overcap?

whole silo
#

Head or hands

#

whats better tier ^

olive wraith
gray parrot
#

Any weakauras to track the odyns fury dot? Haven't seen many

whole silo
#

Any1 know whic h is best to take?

spare otter
#

wtf is going on

brittle crow
#

both good

whole silo
#

ok

rich storm
#

Is there a reason we don't take Fresh Meat? We have fewer ways to enrage with the t31 build, no?

#

*Fresh meat in m+ I should say

brittle crow
#

cuz we have enough rage gen to stay enraged forever

#

or practically forever, anyways

#

we're a big balls 90 sec cd class now so our non-cd damage isnt as important too and during our burst windows we gen so much rage we cant spend it all

modest condor
#

if you want to take fresh meat you can drop something else for it but they're all gonna be dps losses

rich storm
#

I was mostly curious as I messed up staying enraged during a key but I'll have to tough it up and learn how it works

#

Went from no-braining rampage and now it suddenly feels like I'm wearing 2 left shoes

brittle crow
#

yea but those left shoes crit for like 300k

#

so worth

rich storm
#

That's true, been getting some chunky crits

olive wraith
#

I feel like you still enrage really fast

wispy dock
#

sorry prolly dumb question with annhiliator is it rampage then BB, then ramp then bb every other when available?

#

and fill with slam?

olive wraith
#

Rage doesn’t decay super quick so a charge plus 1 gcd will take you to ramp or really close to ramp

rich storm
#

Yeah but it dropped off at awkward times and I got brief panic to re-enrage

olive wraith
#

Maybe more reason to take titanic rage instead of dancing blades

#

But that’s feelycraft so idk

olive wraith
gray parrot
spare otter
#

like ofc

#

out of every server to be bugged

#

its the one im on

whole silo
#

which embelishment should i get first?

lavish lodge
#

is fury the play for heroic tind?

lavish lodge
whole silo
#

allied wrists?

lavish lodge
#

ye

whole silo
#

the centonaur thing is soooo expensive now

#

and my old wrists i vendored by accident

waxen wave
#

You can do allied or shadow flame

quiet oak
#

was looking at the talents on wowhead. Why do we take slaughtering strikes for m+?

solemn widget
#

what are ideal timings for T31 cds for M gnarlroot?

gilded pawn
#

and can you screenshot?

quiet oak
olive wraith
#

Huh never noticed

#

Anni does contribute to ss

#

But I’ve been liking massacre

#

Sub 35% you can basically juggle between ramp bb and exec

modest condor
#

that talent point is honestly kind of filler

#

you can put it in SS, or massacre, or bloodcraze, or even fresh meat

quiet oak
olive wraith
#

Bloodcraze isn’t the best for aoe

modest condor
#

i like bloodcraze this week because tyran

#

but yeah on aoe it's not that good

olive wraith
#

Seems like user preference

young swan
#

u could do jugg

modest condor
#

i definitely can put it in massacre, just watch me

olive wraith
#

Oh heck you’re right

#

Wait no

young swan
#

i wish u could

olive wraith
#

Why can’t you

sullen spoke
#

Can anyone help me understand why my old 4 pc with 10 less item level and the old m+ build does more sim damage than my new 4 set, +10 ilvl, new odyns fury build?

quiet oak
#

what would be the best for aoe?
But im going to sim to see anyway lol

rich storm
#

Clearly you should put it in sfm

vivid egret
#

is it me or does it feel like in keys warriors do sooo much less thand dh and hunters

olive wraith
#

Single finded mury is really strong

modest condor
olive wraith
rich storm
young swan
vivid egret
#

like i finished a 21 at 190k and the dh was at223 and the hunter at 246

olive wraith
#

I like it in massacre

vivid egret
#

a fall

young swan
#

oh wait

#

thats real

#

why does it look fake

#

LMFAO

#

bro i swear to god

#

i have brain worms

rich storm
buoyant salmon
#

true

modest condor
#

NA brain

buoyant salmon
#

no arguments there

young swan
#

that looks

#

so fucking cursed

sullen spoke
gilded pawn
sullen spoke
#

both sims are for m+

gilded pawn
#

yes and one has shockwave

#

which is about a 2-3% dps loss

sullen spoke
#

taking one stun is enough to entirely negate new 4pc that is super strong and 10 item level?

olive wraith
#

You have uproar which gives you 4 casts of roar as opposed to 3

verbal ravine
#

guys are we swithing to annihilator on 2p?

olive wraith
#

I did for m+

#

St it’s def an upgrade

spare otter
#

I could not imagine playing this build without 4p

quiet oak
#

did a sim for patchwerk, 5 bosses, 1:30m. SS does more damage lol

#

if the gods of simulation say so

verbal ravine
#

downgrade on aoe tho?

#

and how much of an upgrade on st?

olive wraith
#

Run a sim

spare otter
#

Just play arms till 4p 👍

olive wraith
#

People are saying they sim more in 4p t30. But actually playing it I’ve been doing more than normal

magic inlet
#

is the annihilator build the only one worth using with this new tier set? this gameplay is so clunky i swear

#

im sure im not using it well. but man it still feels weird

olive wraith
#

Anni is the top damage build

#

What’s weird about it

magic inlet
#

waiting for cds

verbal ravine
#

hm i also thought it was clunky but then i gave it a second shot doing it properly, it felt fine

olive wraith
#

Like empty gcd?

magic inlet
#

yeah like waiting for auto attacks etc

spare otter
#

Empty gcd feels really bad yea

olive wraith
#

That’s a rotation problem

magic inlet
#

feels like arms

spare otter
#

But apart from that build is fun af

young swan
#

you shouldnt have hardly any empty gcd's

olive wraith
#

You shouldn’t have downtime

sweet roost
#

Hi. I really dislike the way annihilator plays. I don't mind loosing few % of damage if there was a build for Raging Blow

magic inlet
#

ok fair enough im sure im not playing optimally. how can i figure out what im doing wrong

spare otter
#

I get empty gcd like 2-3 times a m+ run

olive wraith
#

You could try the t30 build with of instead of os @sweet roost

spare otter
#

From what I can remember at least

young swan
#

but on ST it shouldnt be an issue

young swan
magic inlet
#

okay well i guess i was on m gnarlroot today which has lots of adds so i guess if multitarget makes it kinda awkward then

spare otter
#

I'm not really sure about st like I remember a couple of times I had empty gcd

#

But I ain't sure how to go about preventing it

sweet roost
olive wraith
#

I just said os

magic inlet
#

on h tswift it didnt feel that bad i guess. and dont get me wrong i like the damage

olive wraith
#

lol

magic inlet
#

i just feel like its way less fun to play

sweet roost
#

you mean Onlaught?

olive wraith
#

Yes os=onslaught

sweet roost
#

thank you

olive wraith
#

The problem is with raging blow build you wanna actually use raging blow

young swan
#

you just have to be good about managing your resources, which in this case, is your abilities/ability cd's

olive wraith
#

Instead of bt spam

young swan
#

it takes slightly more brainpower to manage than last tier

spare otter
#

I don't think I got the brainpower for that

young swan
#

but if you just make sure ur pressing bt/bb every other gcd

olive wraith
#

In a tier where you wanna spam bt a raging blow build is gonna feel bad

young swan
#

it should be very difficult to hit dead time

magic inlet
#

so i guess my question is; is my rotation basically rampage bloodthirst repeat and fill with slam/execute when proc?

gilded pawn
#

a bit more nuance to it

#

but yes

olive wraith
#

Small example would be like
Bt-ramp-bb-slam-bt-ramp-bb-ww

#

Obv this isn’t always the case

rich storm
viral maple
olive wraith
#

But you space out ww and slam enough this way to have them off cd

young swan
olive wraith
#

Ya people have playstyle preferences

spare otter
#

Do you ever prio anything else when you have the rage to rampage?

olive wraith
#

But the tier is good

young swan
#

bloodbath

spare otter
#

Except bb

olive wraith
#

Bt if rage is under 100

sullen spoke
magic inlet
#

do i wanna use avatar and odyns fury like back to back like that? i want avatar up on pull and i feel like i want to let the entire bleed tick down before OF but then you're kinda forgoing some of the CDR

sullen spoke
#

I can't figure out why these massive upgrades are a dps loss

olive wraith
#

Send 3 gcd then avatar

spare otter
magic inlet
#

ok so opener is like Charge> BT> reck> OF> ramp> BB> ramp> avatar

#

roughly?

olive wraith
#

With t31

magic inlet
sullen spoke
#

not bis but decently good

olive wraith
#

Rek-charge-ramp-roar-of-bb

#

Titans torment will probably be a good upgrade

sullen spoke
#

kk trying that now, ty

#

i didn't even notice, i bet that does it

spare otter
#

Idk if that's optimal tho

sullen spoke
#

yep that did it

#

thanks friend

magic inlet
spare otter
olive wraith
#

Ye I like DB

spare otter
#

Yea I was using the other talent before but dancing blades nice for st

magic inlet
#

the m+ build uses it and the standard raid multitarget one doesnt

#

or other way around idk

spare otter
#

Yea just change it if you want to

sweet roost
#

In t30 I had Reck, Avatar and Ravager under one macro. I can't do this for t31 without damage loss, right?

olive wraith
#

Not ideally

late escarp
#

4 set is actually mad fun

young swan
#

@buoyant salmon how do u raid with rigg dooming all the time

restive peak
#

Ye I'm a 4 set enjoyer

restive peak
sweet roost
#

I'm having troubles learning the rotation.

young swan
#

genuinely i couldnt take it

spare otter
#

Btw do we only use execute when we can't BB/rampage?

ornate gust
copper surge
#

Love 4 set for both specs

olive wraith
restive peak
#

I agree Xan lol

#

I'd lose my mind

buoyant salmon
#

not rlly dooming to me

late escarp
olive wraith
late escarp
#

Especially in raid

buoyant salmon
#

also this is like pull 73 today critcake

young swan
#

i get it

ornate gust
young swan
#

but that fucks moral hard

spare otter
#

Is what I do as well but Idk

naive swallow
#

is "Hero" the highest rank of gear from vault/M+

static nest
#

no, myth

naive swallow
#

6/6 gonna be 483 i guess

crystal summit
#

From end of dungeon yes

#

From vault no

naive swallow
#

what's myth's highest ilvl ?

young swan
#

489

naive swallow
#

ok , thanks

spare otter
#

Do we get another spark this week?

olive wraith
#

Week 3 we get half

#

Week 4 we will be able to craft a third item

solemn widget
#

do we play ST for M igria or MT for the spears?

sullen dove
#

whatever warcraft logs has people doing on their talents

dense elbow
#

If you already delete them and get no meatcleaver value, then sure.
Would check some logs if I were you, see how it pans out and then fit it with your team's needs catman

sullen dove
#

deathroll moment

dense elbow
#

Pot at how much?

sullen dove
#

idk like 50k

dense elbow
#

ydnad ya need more 0s

sinful spoke
#

bb hitting hard

image.png
olive wraith
#

People hating on anni

#

But we were gifted these huge bb hits

#

I love it

dense elbow
#

What does Anni got to do with RA?

olive wraith
#

It’s just the playstyle that supports ra

#

And honestly it’s the reason we got the 1 charge RA

dense elbow
sinful spoke
#

chat is there a way to send my ui to my laptop

olive wraith
#

Am I cooked

sinful spoke
#

i dont wanna set everything up again

#

too much

#

and all the addons too

dense elbow
#

Copy the folders

olive wraith
#

Isn’t blizz ui account bound

keen kindle
#

I'm still setting evreything up

keen kindle
#

many don't

sinful spoke
#

i dont use blizz

#

i use elvui

olive wraith
#

F

keen kindle
#

Then yeah ur fucked

dense elbow
#

Copy, transfer to phone, paste to laptop

sinful spoke
#

what folders though

dense elbow
#

Wtf and interface should do the trick

eternal sundial
#

Remember tooltip folder if you use swaggy Chat bubbles

grim badge
#

sorry if asked already, is gleaming eye a sim trap?

olive wraith
#

It feels pretty good

#

Anywhere from 3-7% on st

mild thunder
#

I was chasing that for a bit, but I got a heroic Augury instead. :s

sinful spoke
#

the biggest thing holding back my dps rn is trinkets other than my fingers

valid moon
#

in DHT should you SR the bolt or feed of the weak?

mild thunder
#

Feed is random, and Bolt hits like a train.

#

Probably Bolt.

dense elbow
#

When you hit feed tho...

valid moon
rare fjord
#

using slam feels weird and wrong

#

like trying to hammer a nail on the pointy side

olive wraith
#

Check the pins

rare fjord
#

...what about them

olive wraith
spare otter
#

tryna get into an AD group is impossible

clever path
#

Did the lego get revealed?

flat river
spare otter
#

atal dazar

flat river
#

Ah

young swan
#

ateldazur

dense elbow
#

Step one, go tank

low folio
#

it still feels wrong that the 2 set only effects the primary target, it feels like it goes against the logic of the whirlwind effect

compact knot
#

very good uptime

#

does around 6-7% of my damage on most bosses, depends on procs

#

i think

#

smolderon heroic it did 4.29% which considering most of our damage comes from the burst in the intermission that isnt bad at all (i have 489 rezans)

image.png
#

it does seem to be a bit rng sometimes, it usually is doing 4.5%-7% on most of my kills, not even accounting for the big main stat from it

severe cypress
#

wtb flightstones

compact knot
#

bro fr

olive wraith
#

It’s like a better darguls

compact knot
#

i got black rook weapon and it drained me fully from flightstones

olive wraith
#

I still need weps

compact knot
#

suffering from success

olive wraith
#

Asscandy is still simming better than 450-460s

compact knot
#

i alrdy had gnarlroot wep 483 so i got 483 black rook wep and -1600 flightstones

severe cypress
#

Upgraded one weapon today, need to do like, 10 more M+ to upgrade the other one. Just for flightstones

compact knot
#

now im capped on crests and 0 flight stones

severe cypress
#

Ha, same boat

winter shoal
compact knot
#

didnt that get nerfed

olive wraith
#

Does m0 give a decent amount

winter shoal
compact knot
#

mby im wrong

olive wraith
#

Ya hc DoI doesn’t give as much now I think

winter shoal
#

I queued up and it said 8 mins and I said no thank you

compact knot
#

people wait 40 mins for a ss que to pop

#

be rewatching aot inbetween ques

winter shoal
#

Are those people okay

compact knot
#

i did it too for a little

#

stopped when i got 2100

olive wraith
#

Bruh ss towards the end of the season was bad

compact knot
#

it took so long sometimes

#

i sat in a hour long que

winter shoal
compact knot
#

yeah i got rank 1 council and smolderon tonight

winter shoal
#

Gamer

compact knot
#

almost got fyrakk

winter shoal
#

Fury still sims like 10k lower than arms for me

compact knot
#

this though

#

is what actually matters

winter shoal
#

I had r1 hc volcoross (not locked in) last week before Swordish yoinked it sadge

olive wraith
#

That hps though

winter shoal
compact knot
#

canhas doesnt have two 463 springs keepers though

#

i need cheat death trinket and maybe the healer trinket from raid

#

i think the springs can proc the healer trinket

olive wraith
#

Hey guild I need that mythic healing trink

#

For reasons

compact knot
#

its the rare one from fyrakk

#

so it might be awhile

#

LMAO

#

i think springs would proc it though, which would enable fury healing spec for sure, stack haste/vers, windfury totem, dancing blades, so many procs

#

the healing scales off vers i found out too, with the ppm increased by haste, with 2 springs equipped it was doubling the healing and ppm

#

(crits for 200k when it procs)

#

minor theory crafting going on here, i wonder if tyrs works, it might actually be the play to go 2 healer trinkets

olive wraith
#

Breaking news. Heroic DoI gives no flightstone

winter shoal
#

@compact knot no disrespect but you should OF before ava/spear on opener

#

You lose 3 crits of OF cdr

compact knot
#

where you looking at the smolderon kill

winter shoal
#

Yuh

compact knot
#

i purposely didnt do it

#

but you arent wrong

winter shoal
#

Oh for cd timings during intermission?

compact knot
#

yeah

winter shoal
#

My 90s always come up like right at the end of the damage amp

compact knot
#

id lose about 5 seconds of the buff

winter shoal
#

And guild wants to lust damage amp too

#

FeelsBadMan

compact knot
#

which didnt seem worth it

compact knot
winter shoal
#

I'm dropping them wherever they drop

compact knot
#

i wrote like a whole ass essay on smolderon

winter shoal
#

👀

compact knot
#

and how to parse good on t

winter shoal
#

I think step 1 for me is have healers learn that they, too, can soak the orbs, and it helps them keep us alive during intermission

compact knot
#

let me link if it i can find it

winter shoal
#

(I was dead for the last 20 seconds of the fight from rotting, no I'm not salty about it)

compact knot
#

.

#

all your doing is purposely delaying the pick up of the orbs and dropping them far away

#

so you can get the orb buff during your spear

flat river
winter shoal
winter shoal
compact knot
#

1.2 million crits in the intermission under 35%

#

OH MY GOD it feels so good

olive wraith
compact knot
#

bricked up

gritty sigil
#

do you guys pop odyns fury right after avatar/full opener some times? i feel like its cd is so short that if i pop it at the start it will be up for the next packs, but if i hold off to stagger it, then it wont be up for next pack

#

kinda having a hard time judging it

winter shoal
south kayak
#

fury is so reminscent of legion fury rn

#

damage outside of cds

#

📉

gritty sigil
#

so odyns fury, then full opener?

compact knot
#

do you run dancing blades in m+?

#

i dont think so right

south kayak
#

no

#

Titanic Rage is so good

olive wraith
#

I do

#

Prio damage stonks

compact knot
#

cant you just ooga booga press buttons

winter shoal
#

Oh were they talking about in M+? In that case OF first then ava after your ww stacks are gone

compact knot
#

no thinking

south kayak
compact knot
#

thats what i was doing

flat river
olive wraith
#

Might be better to DB on tyr weeks

winter shoal
#

WW cd is so cringe in M+

gritty sigil
#

i dislike this seasons rotation :L i miss s1

compact knot
#

i play arms on fort weeks, fury on tyr weeks

olive wraith
#

I mean you still use it every 4-5 casts

compact knot
#

inpeace

winter shoal
#

I'm probs gonna be a fob gamer both weeks tbh

compact knot
#

it feels really nice

winter shoal
#

Anni in ST is good

#

Anni in M+ is beans

keen kindle
gritty sigil
#

what r ur sec stats looking like @compact knot ?

keen kindle
#

Fuxk thundering

olive wraith
#

Ya I agree I like the rotation

compact knot
south kayak
#

I like the rotation

flat river
#

I don't mind it

south kayak
#

but i think the 4p is way more for st than aoe

flat river
#

But

#

Last season was better

carmine mason
#

last season was better imo

compact knot
#

last season for sure better in m+

carmine mason
#

but arms feels so nice

#

so whatever

compact knot
#

but raid it feels nice and idk why

south kayak
#

idk i got so bored of last season's rotation

flat river
#

Go play arms then xD

compact knot
#

i think its seeing that big fucking number

carmine mason
#

fine

compact knot
#

moving away from the mosquito playstyle a little bit

plucky ice
#

big numba good xan

flat river
compact knot