#fury

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olive wraith
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How so

wraith shuttle
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Well, last season's 4pc is...with the shift to annihalator, I'm not waiting for the max application of cshb

brave cairn
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yo
does anyone still have that WA for spell reflect?
that spams the party so they dont int and kick

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ill repost

olive wraith
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Search wago

brave cairn
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need it for tomorrow cause of atal buffs

merry night
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feel like aoe wise even with the build im falling on damage

brave cairn
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i need the one that spams the chat tho, cant find it on wago

merry night
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hate slam, the annih is aids

wraith shuttle
olive wraith
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Slam is essentially rb

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We crit often with bt

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In t31

merry night
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are you bressing BB even when its not BB

olive wraith
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Bt you mean

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Yes

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That’s our main cast

brave cairn
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you have to for rage gen

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slam cd is too big

wraith shuttle
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Slam is pure filler in my current rotation

brave cairn
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altho with 2piece bonus i avoid pressing it when its not BB

wraith shuttle
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If I have NOTHING else to press, I'll press it

merry night
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i got the 4p currently

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just feels like AoE is lacking

olive wraith
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Well yes slam is filler

ember apex
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anyone else really despise hitting slam

olive wraith
ember apex
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i would rather have my nutsack sliced open

olive wraith
ember apex
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yeah make a macro

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so it looks like RB

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the problem is the animation and the sound

merry night
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funny enough

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i was running raid ST build

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thats why my AoE felt so awful in M+

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i put on my talent import Annih M+ and it wasnt that at all lmfaooo

wraith shuttle
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I was gonna say, aoe feels awesome rn to me

ember apex
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i wish we could have RA and AM at the same time and OF and Ravager

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then our AoE would feel so good

grand condor
merry night
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yeah imma fuckin pepega

olive wraith
ember apex
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bro there u go again

rocky field
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im sure its been asked but what tier piece we skipping this season?

ember apex
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it would be perfectly fine

rotund steppe
olive wraith
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I don’t think you realize how much we would blast

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It would get nerfed

ember apex
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GOD FORBID

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EVERYONE WE WOULD DO TOO MUCH DPS

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HEAVENS NO

glad coyote
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going from 4set to 2set+2set is a dps loss for simming for me

olive wraith
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You want to get gutted?

ember apex
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i want to be competitive w/ rogues

olive wraith
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Look at spriest

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Then play fotm

hushed walrus
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A guy said I HAVE A DREAM
Fury in the top 5 spec in raid/mm+

ember apex
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i dont want to play fotm i want to dual wield 2handed weapons

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yeah thats right

vapid spade
ember apex
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i have a dream alright kalaiath

olive wraith
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Just being realistic

past pivot
olive wraith
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Someone is always on top

ember apex
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i dont want to play fotm i just want fury warrior to be the best dps in all situations perpetually

olive wraith
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Someone is always mid

rocky field
olive wraith
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Someone is always bottom

ember apex
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w/ ur mentality it would always be us

olive wraith
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Play private server

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Ya just let fury play with 4 capstones

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That would be totally realistic

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And not be nerfed

chilly sapphire
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You'd be dh. keks

vapid spade
olive wraith
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While we’re at it give fury the whole talent tree for free

ember apex
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friggin' hate AI

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there we go

clever path
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Can we spell reflect yazma's wracking pain?

ember apex
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yeah

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its gonna be pog

clever path
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Good good, big damage

spiral ermine
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so, fury is useless until new 4pc?

olive wraith
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No

rich marlin
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we keep s30 talents til 4 piece? or do we go to new build at 2p2p

oblique trail
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In raid you can go 2p2p

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But for M+ I'd recommend waiting till you have 4p, or play Arms until then

rich marlin
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gotcha

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s31 talents for 2p2p right?

oblique trail
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Yes

sudden sun
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Is anyone going for lariat here as second embelish?

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Im still not sure wich one to choose, either bracers + shadowflame or lariat

past pivot
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why would you do that? This early at least?

ember apex
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yeah you get lariat late into the season when all ur gear has sockets and ur trying to show off in front of the boys

subtle mortar
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What is optimal 4-piece when ur not assuming u are going to loot a 489 helmet from M+ vault?

ember apex
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just get 4p ASAP then worry about optimizing secondaries later. if u can pick sim ur char and pick what helps u the most in the short term. like if piece 4 is ur token

onyx fox
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is 2 set 2 set better or worse for m+ if both tier pieces are hero?

cerulean edge
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Legs are one of our bis tier pieces now, right? (according to bis list on wowhead). Reason I'm asking is I have 480 myth tier legs sitting in my vault, but also a 476 weapon and I'm weighing up whether I take the legs and play the long game (its my first piece) or take the weapon for an immediate upgrade...

summer quail
glad coyote
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how awkward?

past pivot
cerulean edge
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@past pivot Yea that's my thinking too. I can get other weapons with a bit of grinding, but myth track tier legs will be out of my reach outside of getting lucky in the vault

quaint stag
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I’ll be going 2pc after vault tomorrow and I’m not looking forward to having to remember that recklessness doesn’t refresh fast like it has with s2 build

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We don’t macro avatar with recklessness anymore do we?

olive wraith
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I didn’t before

lofty delta
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do we go to the new build as soon as we have 2 piece or is there an interm build?

past oriole
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2pc in raid M+ seems ppl are saying stick to old 4pc till new 4pc

glad coyote
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why though

lofty delta
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ok, so new build in raid with 2pc but old build until 4pc,? just so i understand correctly.

glad coyote
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whats the issue with 2set+2set in m+?

past pivot
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every 7th person who asks gets a different answer

barren stone
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i wouldnt say so wowhead says to replace it insta

olive wraith
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People aren’t liking of without the cdr from 4p

barren stone
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yea thats reasonable but still stupid bc 2p 2p does more dmg

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then 4p last season

lofty delta
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"Going into Season 3, Fury Warriors will not change their builds or playstyles until acquiring their full T31 set bonuses." archi says otherwise

past pivot
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the strength of it i sin 4p not 2p.

cerulean bronze
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Hi everyone,
If we play with the trinket of fyrakk (the crit one)
Do the crit get more value than other stats ? Or we just still ignore crit anyway ?

lofty delta
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so old build even with 2pc+2pc

past pivot
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2P + 2P should be about the same as 4p t30 maybe less

olive wraith
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You want of

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So I think you got remove onslaught

solemn pebble
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Being new idk what keys I should be doing. Is there like a “you should do x key at ilvl” or you should aim for a certain amount of dps in each before moving on?

Basically I just don’t want to be holding people back by joining ones that are too high for me. Any advice?

olive wraith
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Just gotta start low and build up

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There’s way too many factors to get anything reliable

tacit crag
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Unless my sim is fukt

chrome plover
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with new talents?

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it was defo a sizeable single target increase for me

tacit crag
olive wraith
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Link it

tacit crag
lofty delta
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How the shit do i do damage on the council fight xD

arctic portal
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sorry if this has been asked 100000000 times, but which 2 things do i craft for m+ for maximum damage, i dont really understand the wording of the guides. would it be patch + wrists? thats how i would understand it -.-

tacit crag
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Tried simming with nightly instead of weekly, now it is 2k dps less lol

past pivot
tacit crag
# olive wraith Link it

I dunno what to try next with these sims, 2p2p just seems worse in every scenario I've tried. Maybe just need better stat gear? Idk

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It's like the sim maybe doesn't recognize the catalyst gives me 2pc bonus? Is there a setting I'm missing maybe?

arctic portal
olive wraith
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I can’t really see everything well I’m on mobile

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Did the some have catalyst charges

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Also I can’t tell if you changed talents

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Mobile sucks

tacit crag
# olive wraith Did the some have catalyst charges

Yes the sim shows in the list of alternatives "CATA" and the tier piece I'm simming for catalyst, the "st" talent tree is the t30 talents and those sim higher than currently equipped talents (I put on t31 talents just for the sim)

elder ridge
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Should you go as fury with 2 set or wait untill you have the full 4 set?

olive wraith
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Scroll up a little there was a recent combo

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Convo

elder ridge
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yeah, just saw it. Thanks

glad coyote
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my 2/2 combo is simming like 50 k higher than t30 4set

wild mural
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38 deaths nad we time

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somehow

whole silo
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if we have new 2pc do we change talents?

rotund steppe
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timed its timed

flint narwhal
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is this good?

humble plover
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No vendor it

modest condor
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ill buy it for 100g, 21 more than the vendor

wild mural
plucky ice
wide sedge
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if I do 2p 2p do I really lose that much damage?

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or is it just the unoptimal way to do things

flint narwhal
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I was told that it's fine for raiding

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but super janky in M+

whole silo
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so do i switch to T31 w 2 set?

flint narwhal
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see above

whole silo
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above where?

flint narwhal
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elyk_ — Today at 3:27 PM
if I do 2p 2p do I really lose that much damage?
or is it just the unoptimal way to do things
Rynch — Today at 3:28 PM
I was told that it's fine for raiding
but super janky in M+

tacit crag
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Dunno who to tag but at this point I could really use someone to check my sim and explain what is going on/wrong. Sims are saying that 4p 437 t30 in m+ talents is higher st than t31 talents 2p2p. There's surely no way this is simming correctly?

glad coyote
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get rid of spear

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and use DR

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for m+

tacit crag
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It's saying my t30 m+ talents are higher ST than t31 2p2p

fervent blade
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my sims were not showing 2pc being a gain in ST and a huge loss in aoe

tardy lark
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Less focus on haste with t31 because you don’t play AM

tacit crag
tardy lark
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Mate that gives me nothing. Just play old 4pc til you have new 4pc

glad coyote
past pivot
tacit crag
tardy lark
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Fuckton = well past diminishing returns

untold heart
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When I get 2pc T31 do I switch to the odin's fury build?

tidal heath
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Does thunderous roar affect the bleed from rezan's eye?

oblique trail
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no

humble plover
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I did just to get accustomed to it

warm crag
tardy lark
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/simc

rich marlin
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what stats are bis for weapons generally?

fading bane
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man how fuckig dogshit is Larodar Mythic is melee

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holy fuck

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i hate it

past pivot
serene vessel
empty grove
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483 tier chest keks

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thats 4pc babyy

tardy lark
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🇺🇸 only country that exists 🦅

arctic portal
serene vessel
wild mural
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why didn't I just do this weeks affixes

serene vessel
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big mistake

wild mural
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big big mistakes

olive wraith
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What are week 2 affixes

left perch
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tyranical

wild mural
serene vessel
olive wraith
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Ty

serene vessel
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bring back storming

rocky wharf
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im 2pc+ 2pc chicken tender and nuggets. feels weird and seems like doing last dam. but odin fury is very nice

serene vessel
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no sorry

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bring back thundering

sleek spade
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what is the ST fury opener? i dont really know what to press, with t31

oblique trail
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get me out

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meep

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I repeat

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meep

quick zephyr
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should ı put wafting to main hand and sophic to off hand or both same? and which is better 🙂

olive wraith
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Doesn’t matter which hand enchants are on

untold heart
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Do I switch to odin's fury with 2pc T31?

olive wraith
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Sim what’s the best 2

rocky wharf
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i simmed double waft

olive wraith
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Ya it seems like sims are leading people towards double wafting

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Yes switch to odyns if you’re using 2p

toxic grove
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bait

olive wraith
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Kinda a waste if you don’t

thorny peak
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Swapping to 2p/2p felt off to me

full portal
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shouldn't this say "their"

past pivot
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yes but Blizzard's tooltips always suck

normal yoke
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Hey gang. With T31, since OF should be used before Avatar (and since Avatar procs OF), do you hold Avatar until after you've charged in?
So Reck > Charge > Enrage > OF > ST/MT rotation until OF dot is done, then Avatar?
I've checked the #268491842637660160 channel, and the WH guide. There opener still mentions using Avatar before charging in, which would waste its cast of OF, no?

oblique lynx
marble swift
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is there a tier dps % comparison guide yet for s3?

normal yoke
olive wraith
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That looks like the t30 opener

tardy lark
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2 globals after OF which is also when you use spear

rustic latch
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does ksm gives u a token to get the tier set ?

olive wraith
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Yes

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Wait is ksm the 2k one

untold heart
rustic latch
olive wraith
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Then yes

rustic latch
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we 4 pc today

past pivot
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we not

floral sequoia
pearl cradle
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hi guys should i break my season 2 4 piece to for my season 3 2 piece and transition to the season 3 build?

cyan sinew
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what are the stat prio in warrior fury 4T31*

past pivot
normal yoke
tardy lark
cyan sinew
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isnt Crit a good choice now

cyan sinew
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for annalition and T31

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?

past pivot
tardy lark
olive wraith
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Well bt crits between of usage is decent

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This is why robot tells us what to do

eager wraith
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Oh boy i cant wait to wake up in 8 hours and be disappointed bedge EU life

normal yoke
# tardy lark Yes

Thank you. I assume we hold burst trinkets for the Avatar+Spear GCD, yeah?

olive wraith
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Doesn’t matter

spare otter
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Spear and roar 1% damage difference in ST. Is that assuming you stay in the spear circle for the whole time?

olive wraith
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They don’t affect trinks

tardy lark
vivid inlet
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for larodar should i go full ST or AOE

primal saffron
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so in the warrior guide i see a Darkmoon Deck Box: Dance with 411 and above ilvl.... is this correct?

primal saffron
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they even sim it up to 486.....

normal yoke
primal saffron
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to my knowledge higher then 372 isnt possible

full portal
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you craft them with sparks

past pivot
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I like the Arms mentality. Just focus on bosses and ignore all else

full portal
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so they go up to 486

primal saffron
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really 😮

past pivot
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But why lol

primal saffron
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idk i am not getting any trinkets,,,,

manic iris
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what crafted gear is bis? have 2 sparks just not sure what to make

full portal
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crafted assless chaps

primal saffron
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back and wrist i think ?

past pivot
manic iris
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so just another double shadowflame angle

primal saffron
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you can also take the ver one 😛

tardy lark
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Vers bracers are better in the most amount of scenarios

empty mirage
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anyone have the fury pvp build handy for 2set

normal yoke
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I'm going Shadowflame + Vers wrists. In ST the shadowflame wins out, but you have more benefits from vers than just raw damage

past pivot
normal yoke
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Plus better in M+

tardy lark
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And most bosses aren’t just ST

primal saffron
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more dps little les damage taken always good

olive wraith
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Vers is probably better for prot too

manic iris
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okay yea makes sense still so weird to me that i gotta prio vers gear now as fury

olive wraith
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Y

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S1 we used it

past pivot
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Vers makes for smoother slams

manic iris
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as in like bis rings and stuff are ones with vers

olive wraith
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Also we just have a lot of stats in general

cursive solar
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Is there a trinket worth picking up from the timerift area and pumping up to 450 if both my trinkets are still under that?

olive wraith
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We in the DR for haste and mastery. So as long as robot says it’s better to stat something else trust the robot

cursive solar
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I got 450 tier already

olive wraith
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There’s some decent trinks in emerald dream I think

cursive solar
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I heard doom hammer was good single target

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But yeah, I'll sim the options

normal yoke
frosty scroll
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noob question, it doesnt matter wot enchant is on off or main hand wep right

olive wraith
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Correct

frosty scroll
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cheers

deep sapphire
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So should we run Mastery/Vers on our crafted cloak?

normal yoke
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When in doubt, Haste/Mastery

olive wraith
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When in doubt simply

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Sim

hardy shore
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should we have 2 sparks by now?

normal yoke
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Yes

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Wait, no

past pivot
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We do

normal yoke
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Wait, yes?

manic iris
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yes

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second half today

normal yoke
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If you do the weekly

olive wraith
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We get 2nd spark this week

earnest aspen
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Do we know if this is any good or ?

young ether
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Just sim, and recraft and adapt

manic iris
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next week is next cata aswell

hardy shore
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oh its off the weekly

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what ilvl can we craft this week?

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my spark says 463

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how do i get to the 470s

manic iris
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crests

olive wraith
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The dreaming crests

manic iris
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enchanted versions of them

olive wraith
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From doing m+/raid

hardy shore
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i have a bunch of aspect crests

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do i need to craft the enchanted thing

olive wraith
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Then craft the crest

past pivot
hardy shore
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got it

olive wraith
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Ye

hardy shore
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wait

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how do i get crests again

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LOL

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i forgot

chrome plover
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m+, raid

hardy shore
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done a lot of M+ already why no crests

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at 20s

chrome plover
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well if you've done 20s you have aspects crests

past pivot
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currency tab

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unless you spent them upgrading gear

compact knot
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hahhaa

pearl cradle
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is it worth to break tier 30 4 piece to go for tier 31 2 piece or should i wait?

wild mural
shell jackal
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is this pog, boys

compact knot
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25 atals, i manifested it in the vault

past pivot
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no socket or tertiary

shell jackal
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ok so not pog

past pivot
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but gg nonetheless

valid moon
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How many crests we get per M+ completed?

daring laurel
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@tidal kindle

vast trail
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whats our worst tier slot this season?

past pivot
fading bane
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ring goes gigahard

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worst tier is like gloves pants or shoulders

valid moon
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11 - 15 timed

fading bane
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no pants + gnarlroot pants is really nice

whole silo
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can some1 tell me the talents

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for the 2 pc?

past pivot
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On wowhead and icyveins. Check pins and guides there

whole silo
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annihilator or storm of the swords?

vast trail
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both

languid estuary
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Got two pieces of tier in vault, same two pieces I already had 🙂

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Thanks Blizzard

whole silo
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i mean anger management or storm

empty grove
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Man learning the rotation of the new build is refreshing

tidal kindle
lucid owl
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For new tier set. do we always want to weave in a bloodbath every rampage? or if we need to rage dump is it fine to rampage

empty grove
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Bloodbath takes prior over rampage

lucid owl
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and i was using a macro for avatar/reckless is it bad to use with this tier?

empty grove
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youll want to spend recklessness first with odyns fury

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if i remember correctly

tepid lily
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hello, why is fury new tier like 2% better than the other lol

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stats diff

silent burrow
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Because it makes you do more damage

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lol

olive wraith
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If you rek- charge your first gcd in range can be rampage which enrages you to throw Of. And gives you a bb charge to use after of

spare otter
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Is the 1% dmg difference between roar and spear in ST assuming you stand in the circle for the full duration?

gilded pawn
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ye

spare otter
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Doesn't that seem pretty meh to go for spear then? Like 1% increase doesn't sound too great for sitting in the circle

hollow elk
somber sonnet
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is there any video guides or something to help get the hang of the new tier, i am absolutely hating it right now, because i am not understanding it...

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i have also spent a little over a hr reading and trying on target dummies what the guides from arch says in pins, still not getting it

dusk jackal
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Greeetings Skyhold! For runes, Icy Veins says this: " Hissing Rune or Howling Rune Icon Howling Rune depending on your current stats." What's the dependency? Use the rune you have more/less of?

hasty path
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Sim both, use which is better.
Or, use whichever’s cheaper.
Or, if you play multiple specs, probably use howling since it’s good-ish for all 3.

silent burrow
cosmic flax
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is exe still prio over ramp if it overcaps rage?

olive wraith
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I don’t think so

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Bb is highest prio so more bb is more damage

keen stone
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Should we not be killing fyrakk until mythic clears it incase legendary is from it?

proud leaf
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for the crafted bis cloak, most bis lists are showing the stats as haste mastery - is this a hard recommendation or is that variable?

dusk jackal
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my sims are confusing. It says i should stay with my lower ilevel 4 piece bonus, even with higher ilevel 2 set t3 bonus + annihilator spec

cosmic flax
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did you change your spec to match new tier?

dusk jackal
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yes sir

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annihilator spec

cosmic flax
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my 2pc2pc simmed way higher than 4pc

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old 4p that is

empty grove
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shadowflame patch sims 5.2k to wrists 2.3k keks

brittle crow
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got heroic tier gloves in my vault

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i am blessed on this day

cursive solar
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For the fragment of doomhammer trinket, do I have to wait for the animation to finish after using it?

dusk jackal
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@cosmic flax that's what i've been hearing, hence my confusion

olive wraith
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Are you simming st or mt

dusk jackal
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MT

olive wraith
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That might be why

cosmic flax
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link sim

olive wraith
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T30 as a set is stronger than t31.

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Not taking into account ilvl

dusk jackal
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i sim out 207k with previous t2 4 piece

cosmic flax
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you have the wrong spec for 2pc

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no anni

dusk jackal
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hmmm wtf is this?

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ok, let me try again

crimson hazel
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is the shadowed razing annihilator worth crafting? its a 4.5% upgrade but the next one is a 3.9% ST 4.3% M+

whole silo
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this new rotation sucks i hate it. old ones alot more fun.

cosmic flax
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agreed

olive wraith
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What’s wrong with it

whole silo
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so 2 pc uses T31 talents is that correct.

cosmic flax
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yes

whole silo
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its just a lot slower.

olive wraith
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For st yes

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How is it slower

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You have same apm

whole silo
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what abt for M+?

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feels like i dont

olive wraith
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You might be playing it wrong

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We shouldn’t have empty gcd for the most part

primal bane
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Did out embellishments change?

cosmic flax
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shadowflame / vers wrist

primal bane
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I see wow head say shadowflame x2

cosmic flax
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its barely better dps and vers is better for living

primal bane
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Okay I’m going to make my bracers this week

whole silo
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what should i craft first my vers wrists or shadowflame cloak?

olive wraith
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Dealers choice

hollow elk
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shouldnt you be able to craft both this week

primal bane
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I’d say which ever give highest ilv?

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I used some aspects don’t think I’ll have 120 to do both

nova brook
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Hi, little question to my American Warribuddys, u can upgrade the 483 item from vault or not?

hollow elk
#

yeah to 489

meager gyro
#

Whirlwind spam was fun for a week but I'm ready for 4 piece fury

fiery storm
#

hey we have a rotation i checked pins couldnt find if i missed , sorry

olive wraith
#

It’s in the wowhead guide

fiery storm
#

oh its the same

olive wraith
#

?

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If you don’t have new tier then yes

crimson hazel
#

is the shadowed razing annihilator worth crafting?

valid moon
#

How many crests we get per M+ completion?

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11 - 15 Wyrm

rapid canopy
#

12 for a timed

vestal loom
#

I have a question for you guys, I'm new to war so don't rip me a new one

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Iv been using this macro

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#showtooltip Thunderous Roar
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/cast Thunderous Roar

fiery storm
#

why do we avator after odyns fury and not with reck?

sharp silo
vestal loom
#

is this what we are supose to do?

gilded pawn
#

odyns alreayd gives avatar

#

and maximize dancing blades

gilded pawn
fickle bluff
#

so you can utilise OF cdr and not completely cancel the dot/dancing blades

sharp silo
fiery storm
#

ty for responses guys

empty mirage
#

damn i just got the 2 set they did us WRONG

true sapphire
#

2 set does not feel good

empty mirage
#

yeah theres a LOT of downtime

young swan
#

there really shouldnt be

chrome plover
#

there really isnt

compact knot
#

idk its starting to grow on me

#

i like it

empty mirage
#

i mean i need to get used to it to be fair

#

does need nearly as good as s2 tho

young swan
#

its way better on ST

chrome plover
#

I have 4p and actually feels really good

young swan
#

maybe not as good in m+

compact knot
#

even 2p feels nice in raid

olive wraith
#

We kinda swapped damage profile

#

And now we have execute range damage

empty mirage
#

i like my big aoe numbers

cedar edge
#

i think its turbo garbage but maybe 4p is a game changer

chrome plover
#

cranking out 2 ofs a minute

#

feels like big aoe numbers gladge

#

4p is a gamechanger

empty mirage
#

4p gives so many more OFs

chrome plover
#

natty 450k bloodbaths 📈

#

all the time

#

I did a few keys between 2p and 4p and it just felt kinda the same as old set damage wise

#

but now it feels a lot better

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

People have a raging hate for anni/slam

shy knot
#

Fury tier is atleast way more exciting than arms

#

Kinda passive tier

slow veldt
#

Vault opens at 9am right?

olive wraith
#

We tier is slightly worse for mt

dusk jackal
#

wtf is this? pasting this isnt what i see on my browser tabs

mystic briar
#

until u get 4set im pretty sure new tier isnt better in m+

#

top m+ fury warrior didnt swap till he had 4set im pretty sure

dusk jackal
#

ok

#

thanks for the insight

olive wraith
#

If the boosted bb cleaved we’d be gucci

#

Broken

wild mural
#

BUFF FURY

olive wraith
solemn widget
#

what is our tier piece eventually so to speak

mystic briar
#

that a everbloom?

olive wraith
solemn widget
#

so we run 4 piece is there a preferable off piece

deep sapphire
solemn widget
#

okay thank you

deep sapphire
#

BiS head is from Atal

#

Of course sim sim sim everything

valid moon
#

craftin cloak with patch with 2nd spark?

olive wraith
#

It’s definitely an option

valid moon
#

ty

oblique trail
#

@fading bane augury dropped but didn't get

#

about to cry ingame

fiery storm
#

when u get a 476 gorehowl from vault LETS GOOOO

fading bane
#

gg go next

#

@oblique trail who got it

oblique trail
#

a ret pala

fading bane
#

fak him

oblique trail
#

it is what it is

#

it's in vault

fading bane
#

the proper word is BANNED

oblique trail
#

in vault with avoidance

void ridge
#

anyone else not able to get good sims with 4set s3?
even tweaking the raidbots inputs to assume I have 4 cat converter charges and mythic track gear to upgrade to 489, s3 4set sims lower than s2 2set and s3 2set. 447ilvl s2 pieces and 489ilvl s3 pieces.
That's with the new talent specs and trying 5-10 mobs

cedar edge
#

idk whats wrong with me, i just pumped way harder on a dummy first time arms vs new 2p lol

olive wraith
#

There’s def something wrong with your sim

frosty scroll
#

i keep seeing a lot of talk about the blazefury medallion from the wow anniversary events lord kazzak loot table being real good for rogues? would it maybe be good for warriors as well?

fiery storm
#

hell yeah

void ridge
#

inputs for the sim are all 5 slots able to be cat converted 489 gear to new 4set or retain existing 447 on all 5 slots. s2 talents and s3 talents (from Killchain).
5 or 10 mobs for 5 mins, double 2 set still sims out higher...

olive wraith
#

What’s killchain

void ridge
#

that guy

olive wraith
#

Does he use the wow head talents

worthy mountain
#

sheesh

fringe anchor
void ridge
#

dunno, never bother looking at wowhead

void ridge
deep sapphire
#

Are we putting Mastery/Vers on the crafted cloak or still Mast/Haste?

fringe anchor
#

I believe they're similar enough it's a sim angle

#

recraft to fix stats later if you need

tiny flame
void ridge
alpine kiln
true girder
#

is there an inbetween talent build for 2/2 set?

somber sonnet
#

is target dummy not a correct way to see how your doing on rotation atm? im doing 23k above what is being simmed for a 5min session

oblique trail
#

Sim the target dummy option on raidbots

#

and compare

#

but yes

#

it's a fine way to compare

tiny flame
#

not sure, I am logged for the day

fading bane
#

on last pull

#

almsot

oblique trail
#

gg next pull

fading bane
#

next week

#

almost 6 bosses tho

#

0 splits

oblique trail
#

0 mythic bosses 0 splits

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😎

tiny flame
#

what do you mean by "splits" sorry noob <---

tardy lark
#

clearly the better player

dapper goblet
#

👨‍🦼

tardy lark
tiny flame
#

thanks!

covert blaze
fading bane
#

literally every other guild at our rank splits

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but we are just chads

#

fuck that shit

tardy lark
#

so much easy loot to gain for very little work 🤷‍♀️

#

dont really think its something to be proud of in that sense, but i understand not wanting to bother

oblique trail
#

you couldn't force me to do splits ever

#

not like I'm at a wr atm where it matters anyway..

tardy lark
#

just play an extra char for 1 reset before new patch and 1 reset in new patch and you're done

oblique trail
#

make me

tardy lark
#

nty

oblique trail
#

I thought so

covert blaze
empty grove
#

like

#

i feel like allied should be doing more?

oblique trail
#

your boots are 447 compared with 486

#

and wrists are 470 compared with 486

#

it's not just the effects you're comparing there

glad plover
#

Is fury even worth playing right now? It seems most people are playing arms, or switching classes. As for personal experience I am getting destroyed in M+ by usual actors DH, Hunter, and I did some 20s in time this week.

shy knot
#

Just wait for nerfs

#

They will for sure come

empty grove
#

ah

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nah arms is mid

shy knot
#

What lol

#

Its stronger than fury with old tier

empty grove
#

fury always keks

restive peak
#

Arms is absolutely not better once you're geared, has a few fights it shines

#

Lol

empty grove
restive peak
#

Yes Jor ilvl matters a ton

glad plover
#

I like fury but, it just seems very weak right now, we have burst but it falls fast and in between cooldowns some tanks like DH can outdps us easy.

shy knot
#

With 4p

restive peak
#

Yeah you need 4p and gear, it immediately outscales arms for M+ and most of the fights

#

Arms was good week 1 cuz of MS+FOB build+old loot

empty grove
#

yeah

#

im running fury 4pc now

tardy lark
empty grove
#

and the bloodbath dmg

#

and the burst windows

#

everything just lines up so nice

glad plover
glad plover
#

Until I use my OF that is.

restive peak
#

Odyns should be up twice per pack

empty grove
#

shadowflame is still showing its stronger

tardy lark
#

Thank god odyns fury is 25-30 second cd

glad plover
#

Still, do you think that is enough to beat 600k burst on every pack some clases seem to have

tardy lark
#

You were talking tanks 🤷‍♀️

glad plover
#

also I played 3k M+ last season I know how to play my class.

tardy lark
#

Surely

#

3k was very hard in 10.1.5

glad plover
#

That is what every single warriors rocked it right

restive peak
#

Yes, I run w a hunter and rogue as geared as me while the rogue gets PI and we are extremely close in overall

#

And I’m rank 1 world warr currently (obvi skewed by day 1 na tyran) but I’d say I know how to play the class just fine

#

So yes, to answer your doomer question, there’s a reason to play fury right now

glad plover
#

You play fury ?

static bison
#

anybody knows why wafting devotion is soo much better than other enchants ? its bugged or something?

restive peak
#

…yes I play fury. What?

glad plover
#

Ok cool I guess

empty grove
glad plover
#

So how do you beat time when you have to open without odyns fury

restive peak
#

You lose a pack and accept you aren’t a perma cooldown class anymore

#

The same way that some packs you absolutely pump them

wild mural
#

First 20 gladge

dark flower
zealous dagger
#

question, so im looking at my vault and im torn between my BIS shoulders for the raid tier set or the "Branch of the Tormented Ancient" trinket. raid bots says the trinket would be my best upgrade but wouldnt the raid tier set piece be better in the long run?

narrow narwhal
clever belfry
glad plover
empty grove
#

I mean right now liquids warrior is playing fury on a pure ST boss keks

pure echo
#

In ST with spear would you really not wanna spear first before OF to squeze 2 in the window? Wouldn't that equate to more dps?

glad plover
#

You will beat him by the end of pack obviously

pearl cradle
#

hi guys i did the worthy ally quest no splintered dream fragment is this a bug or am i just misinformed

restive peak
#

You beat him where it matters who cares? Lol

wispy mural
#

if fury is so terrible just play arms. what else do you want these guys to say lol

pearl cradle
#

@wispy mural no im not

clever path
#

quick question

#

is having the new 2 tier better than having 4 tier from aberrus?

pearl cradle
#

@wispy mural what if im in a raid group maybe it bugged?

wild mural
glad storm
#

Sim yourself

wispy mural
glad plover
clever path
#

i couldnt manage to sim it @glad storm

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it doesnt work for some reason

pearl cradle
#

@wispy mural yeah im pretty sure im not in a raidgroup and completed it its not on my quest tab anymore

glad storm
#

Assuming you have the 2 set, equip the gear and spec and run a separate sim

clever path
#

like it says i need to select more options, but still doesn't let me lol

glad storm
#

I got 4 set today and my sim DPS went up 17k since last night

#

It's bananas

void ridge
#

how many targets? 1/5/10?

wispy mural
#

I have 0 tier, my vault had no trinket, tier, or weapon

#

doing good

glad storm
#

1

clever path
#

so you mean like run 2 sims, one with 4 set, and another with 2 + 2?

#

equiped

glad storm
#

For my character is was about 3%

clever path
#

how do you do that lol

void ridge
#

only way I can get new 4set to sim higher is with 10 mobs, 5 and under 2set/2set sims higher

glad storm
void ridge
#

yep

restive peak
olive wraith
#

There’s no way lol

void ridge
#

if you look at the inputs, 489 options are available for each tier slot, yet 2set/2set sims higher

unreal crane
#

quite happy with this vault for the week (since I usually wasn't able to do 18's last season on first vault) so hopefully something good tomorrow 🙏

pearl cradle
#

yo guys if i go 2+2 do i go for the annihilator build?

unreal crane
#

yea..that's what im gonna do tomorrow probably

pearl cradle
#

on m+ change to storm of swords @unreal crane ? thanks for answering my question

unreal crane
#

yea for both raid and M+

pearl cradle
#

thank you

olive wraith
#

M+ is more debatable

unreal crane
#

got so many offset items with high ilvl that are waiting to be equipped

olive wraith
#

But raid yes

hidden sinew
#

is everyone else simming lower with 2set t31?

glad storm
#

With old 4 set?

#

I'm at like 180k with new set, never got close to that before 4 set

hidden sinew
#

single target says 114k. when i put 2 set on i actually loke 7k dps.

#

lose*

gilded pawn
#

use new talents

past pivot
hidden sinew
#

kk will try new talents and sim again

#

ty guys

void ridge
past pivot
glad plover
glad storm
#

Since 4 set been popping off. I'd say don't count out the spec until after 4 set

#

Seems very good

glad plover
olive wraith
#

Wdym by keep up

#

Do comparable key levels? Clear mythic raid?

hidden sinew
#

dont you get a teir peice for ksm?

#

or are they not doing that this season

glad plover
olive wraith
#

That they do

#

We’re middle of the pack

hidden sinew
#

yeah seeing a dh doing over a 1 million dps is a little insane rn

olive wraith
#

So far at least

hidden sinew
#

granted those are huge pulls but im only doing 4-500k in comparison

glad plover
#

I did 1mil on few pulls but I am never able to keep it up, DH on other hand

olive wraith
#

I’m pretty sure top end warriors peak over 1mil

chilly harbor
#

we still want allied bracers+ shadowflame cloak?

past pivot
#

on focus

#

od shadowflame x 2

elder ridge
#

Anyone have a Weak aura for the Bloodbath Tnew tier tracker?

restive peak
#

We burst over 1mil in big packs as well, esp in lust, but yes DH overall will beat us

mossy fox
#

DH is illegal

clever path
tulip swallow
#

DH having its shadowlands survival hunter moment

glad plover
#

I understand need to "overbuff" specs after rework, but they overdid themselves here 😄

wispy mural
tulip swallow
#

if we complained more we could have got a rework

#

rogues gaslit their way into one

glad plover
wispy mural
#

I've played the same warrior since vanilla. have my vanilla pvp title

#

the game for me is beating the broken shit, not becoming it

#

but I get that's personal

olive wraith
glad plover
tulip swallow
#

there's no reason for int shout to be target capped

#

Like even for pvp it doesn't really matter unless blizzard is that concerned with rbg balance

#

just uncap it

restive peak
#

You never want to be top, rogue and DH are coming back to earth as soon as this race ends

tulip swallow
#

Nah they're gonna get nerfs that don't really change anything

left perch
olive wraith
#

Look at spriest

#

Their damage got guttered

glad plover
#

But yeah you are probably right they will get gutted.

#

Nerf bat is on the way.

restive peak
#

They did and then got gutted lol

#

Sp is trash, we’re never S BUT we’re also never nerfed to dog water

glad plover
#

True, I guess I just played a lot with BM and DH this season. At least I had easy run on some keys 😄

restive peak
#

We’re good enough to work, this game truly revolves around friends and preset groups, I would say I wouldn’t recommend DPS warr if you’re a hardcore PUG only player

tulip swallow
#

They don't need to nerf us to dogwater because half the time we're already dogwater

restive peak
#

We are never dogwater

#

There are two DPS warrs in for echo literally right now

tulip swallow
#

Season 1 was real bad until like the third buff

glad plover
restive peak
#

Every team runs a DPS warr

#

I mean if you’re pugging and want to climb, you kinda have to be meta or so outstanding that people remember you…but then you’re not pugging anymore lol

#

People are sheep, they see higher sims or a well known streamer running with their 5 and dogpile on it

indigo quarry
#

make it our bitch !

glad plover
#

Yeah true, my only problem with warrior, is the fact that sometimes you feel unable to affect some affixes enough.

restive peak
#

For raid we are meta, for M+ we’re middle of the pack as always…nothing changes, HOWEVER leggo truly may push us into S tier

tulip swallow
#

We have 0 affix/dungeon specific utility

restive peak
#

We do great ST in our AOE spec, we are tanky as fuck, there are A LOT of reflects currently, shockwave is extremely useful, you bring AP if you run a phys comp etc

tulip swallow
#

Like not even something small like a purge or soothe

plush ice
#

anyone elses Spear sim really close to a roar ST sim? mines only like 1.3K away from each other, like, spear is better, but 1.3 in a world where its like a 173 sim seems on the smaller side

restive peak
#

Rally needs darkness treatment in 5 man content but it’s still a good CD

glad plover
restive peak
#

Yeah they’re close this tier Dark

#

Smart players do 🙂

#

Especially this season so far..the key timers are extremely forgiving if you don’t faceplant, and we don’t faceplant

woven lily
#

anyone have that macro for avatar that uses that "known" thing? for spear and thunderous roar

#

idk how to make it

restive peak
#

Should be in the wowhead guide brother

woven lily
#

oh ok, tyty

#

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
where do i put the "[@cursor]" for spear? this one doesnt have it

restive peak
#

That’s actually a good question, I have elvui set to swap bars when I swap talent builds

#

Need someone smarter than I for that one homie!

woven lily
#

i'll try to make it work here, ty for your help bro

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/cast [@cursor] [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

it worked like that 🙂

kind fjord
#

is there something wrong with raidbots and our tier? I'm forcing it to include 4pc t31 and 0pc t30 and it's selecting the t30 and telling me it's 7% higher. Making sure that I have annihilator and odyn's talent selected

restive peak
#

Wooo

humble plover
#

thanks blizzard, very cool

restive peak
#

GODDAMN lol

fast mural
#

kinda F

humble plover
#

yeah

#

i always tell my friends i hate taking tier from vault this early, i guess this is my punishment

fast mural
#

especially this tier where its realy easy to get

#

i got 2p and can get 4p on reset without vault

#

catalist being out early is huge

glad plover
#

Btw stupid question, but does Gorehawl actually deals more damage to demon enemies in Black Rook Hold for example?

humble plover
#

i was going to as well, even thought of taking the pants for better ilvl out of spite

glad plover
past pivot
pure echo
#

Do you want to use all 3 bloodthirsts before using avatar after OF, or nah

gilded pawn
#

doesnt matter

south thunder
#

is that neck from the anniversary any good for us?

past pivot
#

It's 441

south thunder
#

it maxes at 463 with a proc

lone rose
#

fury is 4pc-->2pc2pc right?

olive wraith
robust basin
#

Is there a weak aura for the new tier set?

past pivot
#

Check wago or UI channel

chilly harbor
magic harness
#

axe attack stronk

deep sapphire
#

Does anyone have a general idea of how much the jump from 2 and 2 set to 4 set is dps wise?

frosty scroll
#

Question, do i lose anything off of just using of and avatar within a few gcds off each other besides bleed dam?

lavish sage
#

fml

fast mural
#

nice catalist pieces

chilly harbor
#

^^

lavish sage
#

helm yeah?

#

or gloves

chilly harbor
#

id take helm but depends what u have

lavish sage
#

447

#

on both

#

t30

#

prob helm

rancid ermine
#

I got enough pieces with curio and a charge to do 4 piece tier 31. Gonna wait until vault next Tuesday to see what I get in case its better.

golden solstice
#

its better to wait for 2 pc before switching builds correct?

fast mural
#

yes

frail basin
#

why the prio on gnarlroot weapon?

fast mural
#

stats

quasi river
quasi river
#

goes inside the brackets with the known check

fast crest
#

can someone help review my sim

wet wraith
#

im sure someone has already asked this, but on normal reclears should I just bring my alt to fyrakk and wait till world first fyrakk to clear on my warrior

fast crest
#

apparently going t30 4p -> 2p/2p is only a 0.3% upgrade. suspect I entered something wrong

past pivot
past pivot
empty grove
#

21 atal dazar my spell reflect did 10% of my damage for that fight

#

spell reflecto cuzzz

wet wraith
#

oh bad luck protection

past pivot
fast crest
#

yeah 4p t30 is my current gear, and i've mixed in options to get 2p+2p (vault + catalyst)

past pivot
#

Maybe sim nightly or latest

#

And wait on Catalyst till 4p

fast crest
#

very odd as the item level upgrades would presumably also contribute quite a bit

past pivot
#

Tier > ilvl unless a major jump, most often

pulsar turtle
#

so should be be crafting 476 for free or 486 for the embelished cloak or wrists

compact knot
#

i went to hit the dummies for a bit lol, i got a second 463 springs keeper weapon (proc that heals friends) this is a 1 minute fight on target dummies

#

it seems to be doubling the ppm and the healing

#

lol

#

before my ppm with only one of them was 4, and healing for about 40k non crit and 80k crit

#

ok now it just procced 12 times in 1 minute for 1.4 million healing

#

shit kinda cranks

#

ok it might be fucking quadrupling the ppm or it doesnt run off a ppm system

#

im so confused

fast mural
#

so this is how you get rank1 healing parses as warr

empty mirage
#

i love simming s3 loot against s2 loot and losing thousands of dps lmao

fast mural
#

tier ?

vocal fog
#

Fury 4p > Arms 4p ?

empty mirage
#

its replacing my season 2 tier ye thats why lmao

fast mural
#

i get 4k dps from 4p

#

did you sim the 4p with the new build ?

calm mantle
#

is it ever worth taking the splinter from vault instead of a gear piece? I only cleared normal raid and 0 m+ so vaults kinda bare.

empty mirage
#

i only have 2p for this season

#

simming at 128k rn

fast mural
compact knot
#

its kinda gross

calm mantle
fast mural
#

nothing else thats good?

#

if there is litteraly nothing then you take socket and hang on to it till you get better stuff

mild cove
#

Is worth to break last ssn 4p for new 2p?

winter shoal
#

Sim yourself but probablty

clever path
#

What should I pick? Hard to sim for rings since stats are kinda F-ed up

lucid owl
#

as an opener for new fury set. how long do we delay avatar and TR?

pulsar turtle
#

Is cloak or wrists higher prio for embelishment ilvl. should I craft 486 right now? I can craft both to 476

tidal kindle
#

@balmy shore

#

👏

pulsar turtle
#

which should I craft higher first?

#

wrists or cloak

#

confused

proper peak
#

just got a signet brand from normal and my gm is trying to swap the snake trinket for it, I just /pet him

tidal kindle
#

Feel like snake is

#

Not that great

clever path
#

what tier piece is considered the worst one?

proper peak
#

I only have 1 piece of tier but I got a trinket

tidal kindle
#

Snake does similar overall in keys both weeks for me

#

To rezans

clever path
#

rezan is purely a ST trinket, isn't it?

tidal kindle
#

Yah

modest condor
#

@balmy shore padder

tidal kindle
#

Didn't even stream it

#

To hide the shameless pad

modest condor
tidal kindle
#

Yah...

balmy shore
modest condor
balmy shore
#

i can't stream rn heroic fucks my frames

#

so bad

modest condor
#

heroic tindral keks

fast mural
ruby eagle
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i know it depends on how the tank pulls and so on, but how much overall dmg do you guys usually do in like a atal dazar (without augment evoker)

olive wraith
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The answer is probably 90k-210k

balmy shore
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last week i was in a slideshow

proper peak
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Ok this signet brand is insane

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it did 10% of my damage on normal tindral

opal cloud
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can someone help me with Season 3 tier set i had Season 2 tier set then swap for Season 3 tier set and now i am doing less dmg over all its kinda gay

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i only have 2 set

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over the 4 set with Season 2

olive wraith
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Like you’re dicking things left and right?

tardy lark
ruby eagle
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dont swap until you have new 4 set

slim coral
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Liquid might killl it right now

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Sub 30 everyone up

olive wraith
barren ore
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T31 2p is fine. and you can get used to it.

clever path
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What are the best two slots for 2 piece? Gonna use two tokens to get it

opal cloud
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most likely not

low folio
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got the new 2 set. trying to tell my brain to stop spamming rampage is hard

slim coral
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8 percent wipe

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Damn they got it tonight

modest condor
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boss is already dead on my screen

slim coral
humble fox
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If I have 2pc and not 4pc do I still run the annihilator build for m+ thats on the guides?

slim coral
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Yes

low folio
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anyone know where i go to change the latency thing for keybinds i forget what its called

empty grove
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question!

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since we go in first with recklessness and odyns fury

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do we bloodbath/bloodthirst 3 times first before using avatar?

low folio
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your charges stack

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so you dont have to delay avatar in order to get all your charges

cosmic flax
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what is our opener with spear?

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t31

warm zephyr
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Hey guys does anyone know why when i use top gear it wont tell me that 4pc is better then old 4pc?

modest condor
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not without seeing the sim

empty grove
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OH COOL

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so i can recklessness odys fury and then avatar?

tardy lark
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You do that manually

warm zephyr
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oh gotcha lol

olive wraith
lucid owl
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whats the opener for t31?

meager void
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the order sophic/wafting is irrelevant, right?

winged tartan
clever path
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So we should be using avatar 3-4 seconds after odyn's fury in both st and aoe?

olive wraith
modest condor
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also aoe apl might not be as optimised as st one

tardy lark
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It very rarely is

modest condor
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i could look at it at some point but effort

rare moss
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whats new opener with t31 4pc

unique prism
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470 Augury in my vault, do I take it over mythic track tier?

modest condor
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clear normal first then choose

modest condor
merry night
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so

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fury is filthy

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4p fury is just absolutely nasty

fast mural
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in ST *

merry night
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yeah lol