#fury
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Well, last season's 4pc is...with the shift to annihalator, I'm not waiting for the max application of cshb
yo
does anyone still have that WA for spell reflect?
that spams the party so they dont int and kick
ill repost
Search wago
need it for tomorrow cause of atal buffs
feel like aoe wise even with the build im falling on damage
Wdym
i need the one that spams the chat tho, cant find it on wago
hate slam, the annih is aids
I'm not maxing out that crit buff to apply max CSHB
are you bressing BB even when its not BB
Slam is pure filler in my current rotation
altho with 2piece bonus i avoid pressing it when its not BB
If I have NOTHING else to press, I'll press it
Well yes slam is filler
anyone else really despise hitting slam
Why would you? Bt is our main rage gen
i would rather have my nutsack sliced open
Have you checked pins
funny enough
i was running raid ST build
thats why my AoE felt so awful in M+
i put on my talent import Annih M+ and it wasnt that at all lmfaooo
I was gonna say, aoe feels awesome rn to me
i wish we could have RA and AM at the same time and OF and Ravager
then our AoE would feel so good
Did I do my Gear Compare wrong? Trying to sim to see what secondaries are better on my crafted ring (haste mastery vs vers haste vs crit mastery vs crit haste)https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dA3LkFd2o5UbQ7FEraXcRv
yeah imma fuckin pepega
That would be too strong
bro there u go again
im sure its been asked but what tier piece we skipping this season?
it would be perfectly fine
going from 4set to 2set+2set is a dps loss for simming for me
You want to get gutted?
i want to be competitive w/ rogues
A guy said I HAVE A DREAM
Fury in the top 5 spec in raid/mm+
if you don't have new 4p allready you don't skipp any, if you want min max it's head if i'm correct
i have a dream alright kalaiath
Just being realistic
Ypu want to be with rogues but not fotm. Make up your mind dude lol
Someone is always on top
i dont want to play fotm i just want fury warrior to be the best dps in all situations perpetually
Someone is always mid
thank you i get to pick my 4 piece after i hit 2k today and i dont have helm converting legs so i wasnt sure
Someone is always bottom
w/ ur mentality it would always be us
Play private server
Ya just let fury play with 4 capstones
That would be totally realistic
And not be nerfed
You'd be dh. 
np wowhead has a nice gearlist with some informations^^ otherwise allways sim youself^^
While we’re at it give fury the whole talent tree for free
friggin' hate AI
there we go
Can we spell reflect yazma's wracking pain?
Good good, big damage
so, fury is useless until new 4pc?
No
we keep s30 talents til 4 piece? or do we go to new build at 2p2p
In raid you can go 2p2p
But for M+ I'd recommend waiting till you have 4p, or play Arms until then
Yes
Is anyone going for lariat here as second embelish?
Im still not sure wich one to choose, either bracers + shadowflame or lariat
why would you do that? This early at least?
yeah you get lariat late into the season when all ur gear has sockets and ur trying to show off in front of the boys
What is optimal 4-piece when ur not assuming u are going to loot a 489 helmet from M+ vault?
just get 4p ASAP then worry about optimizing secondaries later. if u can pick sim ur char and pick what helps u the most in the short term. like if piece 4 is ur token
is 2 set 2 set better or worse for m+ if both tier pieces are hero?
Legs are one of our bis tier pieces now, right? (according to bis list on wowhead). Reason I'm asking is I have 480 myth tier legs sitting in my vault, but also a 476 weapon and I'm weighing up whether I take the legs and play the long game (its my first piece) or take the weapon for an immediate upgrade...
2p2p is really awkward in m+
how awkward?
"Bis" is a relative term. If you can get other weapons from keys, play the long game imo. Harder to get those kind of legs imo.
@past pivot Yea that's my thinking too. I can get other weapons with a bit of grinding, but myth track tier legs will be out of my reach outside of getting lucky in the vault
I’ll be going 2pc after vault tomorrow and I’m not looking forward to having to remember that recklessness doesn’t refresh fast like it has with s2 build
We don’t macro avatar with recklessness anymore do we?
I didn’t before
do we go to the new build as soon as we have 2 piece or is there an interm build?
2pc in raid M+ seems ppl are saying stick to old 4pc till new 4pc
why though
ok, so new build in raid with 2pc but old build until 4pc,? just so i understand correctly.
whats the issue with 2set+2set in m+?
every 7th person who asks gets a different answer
i wouldnt say so wowhead says to replace it insta
People aren’t liking of without the cdr from 4p
"Going into Season 3, Fury Warriors will not change their builds or playstyles until acquiring their full T31 set bonuses." archi says otherwise
the strength of it i sin 4p not 2p.
Hi everyone,
If we play with the trinket of fyrakk (the crit one)
Do the crit get more value than other stats ? Or we just still ignore crit anyway ?
so old build even with 2pc+2pc
2P + 2P should be about the same as 4p t30 maybe less
Being new idk what keys I should be doing. Is there like a “you should do x key at ilvl” or you should aim for a certain amount of dps in each before moving on?
Basically I just don’t want to be holding people back by joining ones that are too high for me. Any advice?
Just gotta start low and build up
There’s way too many factors to get anything reliable
I think it's 4p, I keep simming 33 ilvl increase + 2pc with new st build and it's like 2k lower than t30 4pc no ilvl increase.
Unless my sim is fukt
Hmm I will rerun with some changes, but yes it was with new talents
Link it
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5iSu79dWvevxfghBwxpSHe
Tried a bunch of swaps, like I originally was simming with t31 talents + roar instead of spear. I also usually sim with vers phial since I have a high crit ring and vers simmed better, changed that and simmed with lower ilvl ring with no crit, etc. Each time 2p2p t31 st talents seem to be like 1.8k or more less dps for me. Could just be my stats are shit?
How the shit do i do damage on the council fight xD
sorry if this has been asked 100000000 times, but which 2 things do i craft for m+ for maximum damage, i dont really understand the wording of the guides. would it be patch + wrists? thats how i would understand it -.-
Tried simming with nightly instead of weekly, now it is 2k dps less lol
I dunno what to try next with these sims, 2p2p just seems worse in every scenario I've tried. Maybe just need better stat gear? Idk
It's like the sim maybe doesn't recognize the catalyst gives me 2pc bonus? Is there a setting I'm missing maybe?
how does this help? it says patch + wrists both gear from raid and from m+ but not FOR, afaik both is for raid/st
I can’t really see everything well I’m on mobile
Did the some have catalyst charges
Also I can’t tell if you changed talents
Mobile sucks
Yes the sim shows in the list of alternatives "CATA" and the tier piece I'm simming for catalyst, the "st" talent tree is the t30 talents and those sim higher than currently equipped talents (I put on t31 talents just for the sim)
Should you go as fury with 2 set or wait untill you have the full 4 set?
yeah, just saw it. Thanks
my 2/2 combo is simming like 50 k higher than t30 4set
if we have new 2pc do we change talents?
timed its timed
No vendor it
ill buy it for 100g, 21 more than the vendor
No trade it to me I’ll dispose of it in an eco friendly way

if I do 2p 2p do I really lose that much damage?
or is it just the unoptimal way to do things
so do i switch to T31 w 2 set?
see above
above where?
elyk_ — Today at 3:27 PM
if I do 2p 2p do I really lose that much damage?
or is it just the unoptimal way to do things
Rynch — Today at 3:28 PM
I was told that it's fine for raiding
but super janky in M+
Dunno who to tag but at this point I could really use someone to check my sim and explain what is going on/wrong. Sims are saying that 4p 437 t30 in m+ talents is higher st than t31 talents 2p2p. There's surely no way this is simming correctly?
This is not for M+ sim. This is for single target
It's saying my t30 m+ talents are higher ST than t31 2p2p
my sims were not showing 2pc being a gain in ST and a huge loss in aoe
Might be true if you have a fuckton of haste
Less focus on haste with t31 because you don’t play AM
4.1k haste 3.9k crit 2.9k mast
Mate that gives me nothing. Just play old 4pc til you have new 4pc
Stats mean very little.
I was just providing the amount of haste since I don't know what qualifies as a "fuck ton"
Fuckton = well past diminishing returns
When I get 2pc T31 do I switch to the odin's fury build?
Does thunderous roar affect the bleed from rezan's eye?
no
I did just to get accustomed to it
meep
/simc
what stats are bis for weapons generally?
highest ilvl
i noticed the issue, you're doing last weeks affixes
🇺🇸 only country that exists 🦅
you ask because on weapons there are complete other rules when it comes to stats compared to all other slots? is that the reason?
ones with high dps!
oh man, the games broken
why didn't I just do this weeks affixes
big mistake
big big mistakes
What are week 2 affixes
tyranical

Ty
bring back storming
im 2pc+ 2pc chicken tender and nuggets. feels weird and seems like doing last dam. but odin fury is very nice
what is the ST fury opener? i dont really know what to press, with t31
should ı put wafting to main hand and sophic to off hand or both same? and which is better 🙂
Doesn’t matter which hand enchants are on
Do I switch to odin's fury with 2pc T31?
Sim what’s the best 2
i simmed double waft
Ya it seems like sims are leading people towards double wafting
Yes switch to odyns if you’re using 2p
bait
Kinda a waste if you don’t
Swapping to 2p/2p felt off to me
shouldn't this say "their"
yes but Blizzard's tooltips always suck
Hey gang. With T31, since OF should be used before Avatar (and since Avatar procs OF), do you hold Avatar until after you've charged in?
So Reck > Charge > Enrage > OF > ST/MT rotation until OF dot is done, then Avatar?
I've checked the #268491842637660160 channel, and the WH guide. There opener still mentions using Avatar before charging in, which would waste its cast of OF, no?
this is outdated
is there a tier dps % comparison guide yet for s3?
Right, that's why I'm asking when we're supposed to use Avatar in our opener.
That looks like the t30 opener
2 globals after OF which is also when you use spear
does ksm gives u a token to get the tier set ?
2k or AOTC
yes
Then yes
we 4 pc today
we not
Does anyone see anything wrong with my sim? Some fellow raiders are getting around 185k, but I can only get to 175k. WIth embellishments we can get to 178k: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ipZQ4uFnhWQdhkP9Q6d3c3
hi guys should i break my season 2 4 piece to for my season 3 2 piece and transition to the season 3 build?
what are the stat prio in warrior fury 4T31*
what the sims tell you
So, Reck > Charge > Ramp to enrage > OF > BT > Ramp > Spear+Avatar > BT > Ramp, etc. etc.?
If item has either haste or mastery on it, it’s probably good. In the end you sim your choices
isnt Crit a good choice now
Yes
maybe, maybe not
Set fixes that for you on top of talents. So it’s less good than you’d think
Oh boy i cant wait to wake up in 8 hours and be disappointed
EU life
Thank you. I assume we hold burst trinkets for the Avatar+Spear GCD, yeah?
Doesn’t matter
Spear and roar 1% damage difference in ST. Is that assuming you stay in the spear circle for the whole time?
They don’t affect trinks
If they are stat boosts and last 20 secs, you just bind them to your avatar button
for larodar should i go full ST or AOE
so in the warrior guide i see a Darkmoon Deck Box: Dance with 411 and above ilvl.... is this correct?
Solid.
they even sim it up to 486.....
to my knowledge higher then 372 isnt possible
you craft them with sparks
I like the Arms mentality. Just focus on bosses and ignore all else
so they go up to 486
really 😮
But why lol
idk i am not getting any trinkets,,,,
what crafted gear is bis? have 2 sparks just not sure what to make
crafted assless chaps
back and wrist i think ?
so just another double shadowflame angle
you can also take the ver one 😛
Vers bracers are better in the most amount of scenarios
anyone have the fury pvp build handy for 2set
I'm going Shadowflame + Vers wrists. In ST the shadowflame wins out, but you have more benefits from vers than just raw damage
Plus better in M+
And most bosses aren’t just ST
more dps little les damage taken always good
Vers is probably better for prot too
okay yea makes sense still so weird to me that i gotta prio vers gear now as fury
Vers makes for smoother slams
as in like bis rings and stuff are ones with vers
Also we just have a lot of stats in general
Is there a trinket worth picking up from the timerift area and pumping up to 450 if both my trinkets are still under that?
We in the DR for haste and mastery. So as long as robot says it’s better to stat something else trust the robot
I got 450 tier already
sim it, maybe doomhammer
There’s some decent trinks in emerald dream I think
Genuinely asking because I'm ignorant: Is this a joke, or does more vers impact Slam in some way?
noob question, it doesnt matter wot enchant is on off or main hand wep right
Correct
cheers
So should we run Mastery/Vers on our crafted cloak?
When in doubt, Haste/Mastery
should we have 2 sparks by now?
We do
Wait, yes?
If you do the weekly
We get 2nd spark this week
Do we know if this is any good or ?
Just sim, and recraft and adapt
next week is next cata aswell
oh its off the weekly
what ilvl can we craft this week?
my spark says 463
how do i get to the 470s
crests
The dreaming crests
enchanted versions of them
From doing m+/raid
Then craft the crest
Same as last time, 486 is maxed ilvl for crafted gear
got it
Ye
m+, raid
well if you've done 20s you have aspects crests
is it worth to break tier 30 4 piece to go for tier 31 2 piece or should i wait?
im blinded
25 atals, i manifested it in the vault
no socket or tertiary
ok so not pog
but gg nonetheless
How many crests we get per M+ completed?
whats our worst tier slot this season?
depends
11 - 15 timed
no pants + gnarlroot pants is really nice
On wowhead and icyveins. Check pins and guides there
annihilator or storm of the swords?
both
Got two pieces of tier in vault, same two pieces I already had 🙂
Thanks Blizzard
i mean anger management or storm
Man learning the rotation of the new build is refreshing
👏
For new tier set. do we always want to weave in a bloodbath every rampage? or if we need to rage dump is it fine to rampage
Bloodbath takes prior over rampage
and i was using a macro for avatar/reckless is it bad to use with this tier?
It’s more you don’t want to pop avatar before charging since you’re away from the mob
If you rek- charge your first gcd in range can be rampage which enrages you to throw Of. And gives you a bb charge to use after of
Is the 1% dmg difference between roar and spear in ST assuming you stand in the circle for the full duration?
ye
Doesn't that seem pretty meh to go for spear then? Like 1% increase doesn't sound too great for sitting in the circle

is there any video guides or something to help get the hang of the new tier, i am absolutely hating it right now, because i am not understanding it...
i have also spent a little over a hr reading and trying on target dummies what the guides from arch says in pins, still not getting it
Greeetings Skyhold! For runes, Icy Veins says this: " Hissing Rune or Howling Rune Icon Howling Rune depending on your current stats." What's the dependency? Use the rune you have more/less of?
Sim both, use which is better.
Or, use whichever’s cheaper.
Or, if you play multiple specs, probably use howling since it’s good-ish for all 3.

is exe still prio over ramp if it overcaps rage?
Should we not be killing fyrakk until mythic clears it incase legendary is from it?
for the crafted bis cloak, most bis lists are showing the stats as haste mastery - is this a hard recommendation or is that variable?
my sims are confusing. It says i should stay with my lower ilevel 4 piece bonus, even with higher ilevel 2 set t3 bonus + annihilator spec
did you change your spec to match new tier?
shadowflame patch sims 5.2k to wrists 2.3k 
For the fragment of doomhammer trinket, do I have to wait for the animation to finish after using it?
@cosmic flax that's what i've been hearing, hence my confusion
Are you simming st or mt
MT
That might be why
link sim
is the shadowed razing annihilator worth crafting? its a 4.5% upgrade but the next one is a 3.9% ST 4.3% M+
this new rotation sucks i hate it. old ones alot more fun.
agreed
What’s wrong with it
so 2 pc uses T31 talents is that correct.
yes
its just a lot slower.
Did out embellishments change?
shadowflame / vers wrist
I see wow head say shadowflame x2
its barely better dps and vers is better for living
Okay I’m going to make my bracers this week
what should i craft first my vers wrists or shadowflame cloak?
Dealers choice
shouldnt you be able to craft both this week
I’d say which ever give highest ilv?
I used some aspects don’t think I’ll have 120 to do both
Hi, little question to my American Warribuddys, u can upgrade the 483 item from vault or not?
yeah to 489
hey we have a rotation i checked pins couldnt find if i missed , sorry
oh its the same
is the shadowed razing annihilator worth crafting?
12 for a timed
No
I have a question for you guys, I'm new to war so don't rip me a new one
Iv been using this macro
#showtooltip Thunderous Roar
/cast Blood Fury(Racial)
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/cast Thunderous Roar
why do we avator after odyns fury and not with reck?
it gives avatar buff iirc so u can have longer avatar
is this what we are supose to do?
so you dont overlap OF dot
odyns alreayd gives avatar
and maximize dancing blades
real avatar extends OF avatar
so you can utilise OF cdr and not completely cancel the dot/dancing blades
oh mb then
ty for responses guys
damn i just got the 2 set they did us WRONG
2 set does not feel good
yeah theres a LOT of downtime
there really shouldnt be
there really isnt
its way better on ST
I have 4p and actually feels really good
maybe not as good in m+
even 2p feels nice in raid
i like my big aoe numbers
i think its turbo garbage but maybe 4p is a game changer
4p gives so many more OFs
natty 450k bloodbaths 📈
all the time
I did a few keys between 2p and 4p and it just felt kinda the same as old set damage wise
but now it feels a lot better
People have a raging hate for anni/slam
Vault opens at 9am right?
yeah, my sims are confusing.
Annihilator build, 2p2p
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jnF6MhchgnqZM7rjcYs2b2
Onslaught build, t2 4p
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rfELpJ4TmxFSpvXDE5HLu2
We tier is slightly worse for mt
wtf is this? pasting this isnt what i see on my browser tabs
until u get 4set im pretty sure new tier isnt better in m+
top m+ fury warrior didnt swap till he had 4set im pretty sure
BUFF FURY

what is our tier piece eventually so to speak
that a everbloom?
Not sure what you’re asking
so we run 4 piece is there a preferable off piece
You wear the 4 pieces besides the head for tier
okay thank you
craftin cloak with patch with 2nd spark?
It’s definitely an option
ty
when u get a 476 gorehowl from vault LETS GOOOO
a ret pala
fak him
the proper word is BANNED
in vault with avoidance
anyone else not able to get good sims with 4set s3?
even tweaking the raidbots inputs to assume I have 4 cat converter charges and mythic track gear to upgrade to 489, s3 4set sims lower than s2 2set and s3 2set. 447ilvl s2 pieces and 489ilvl s3 pieces.
That's with the new talent specs and trying 5-10 mobs
idk whats wrong with me, i just pumped way harder on a dummy first time arms vs new 2p lol
There’s def something wrong with your sim
i keep seeing a lot of talk about the blazefury medallion from the wow anniversary events lord kazzak loot table being real good for rogues? would it maybe be good for warriors as well?
hell yeah
inputs for the sim are all 5 slots able to be cat converted 489 gear to new 4set or retain existing 447 on all 5 slots. s2 talents and s3 talents (from Killchain).
5 or 10 mobs for 5 mins, double 2 set still sims out higher...
What’s killchain
10.2 Is here and YOU Need to hit the ground running. Fury Warrior brings the hurt. Find out How!
RAID
BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAACBCKBQESICENQICEJhEQkkESSSkERapkkAkEAAAEQQA
RAID MULTI TARGET
BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAQggSAEhEiQS0AhIQIhEIRSSIJJRQkWKJJgkEAAAEQQA
MYTHIC PLUS
BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAQggSCQESgQ...
that guy
Does he use the wow head talents
sheesh
take the soulcleaver for transmog you won't regret it
dunno, never bother looking at wowhead
based
Are we putting Mastery/Vers on the crafted cloak or still Mast/Haste?
Sim
I believe they're similar enough it's a sim angle
recraft to fix stats later if you need
running latest M+ build 2p/2p
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aKxPazLMfJh4zTdp9v729Z
out of curiousity, how does it sim with s2 talents also?
is there an inbetween talent build for 2/2 set?
is target dummy not a correct way to see how your doing on rotation atm? im doing 23k above what is being simmed for a 5min session
Sim the target dummy option on raidbots
and compare
but yes
it's a fine way to compare
not sure, I am logged for the day
gg next pull
what do you mean by "splits" sorry noob <---
👨🦼
you have dummy chars used for extra gear for main characters, effectively splitting mains into groups with dummy chars to "create" more loot for mains
thanks!

literally every other guild at our rank splits
but we are just chads
fuck that shit
so much easy loot to gain for very little work 🤷♀️
dont really think its something to be proud of in that sense, but i understand not wanting to bother
you couldn't force me to do splits ever
not like I'm at a wr atm where it matters anyway..
just play an extra char for 1 reset before new patch and 1 reset in new patch and you're done
make me
nty
I thought so
🫦
your boots are 447 compared with 486
and wrists are 470 compared with 486
it's not just the effects you're comparing there
Is fury even worth playing right now? It seems most people are playing arms, or switching classes. As for personal experience I am getting destroyed in M+ by usual actors DH, Hunter, and I did some 20s in time this week.
Arms is just better right now
fury always 
so comparing same ilvl wrists and boots will give me a better understanding?
Yes Jor ilvl matters a ton
Once geared
I like fury but, it just seems very weak right now, we have burst but it falls fast and in between cooldowns some tanks like DH can outdps us easy.
With 4p
Yeah you need 4p and gear, it immediately outscales arms for M+ and most of the fights
Arms was good week 1 cuz of MS+FOB build+old loot
If you are getting out damaged by tanks, I don’t think it’s a class, gear or spec issue man I’m sorry
Ah here we go, no I am not getting outdamaged by tanks in overall damage, but pulls after I used my CDs and tanks pull next pack fast without Odyns Fury and Avatar our damage is just abismal.
Until I use my OF that is.
Odyns should be up twice per pack
shadowflame is still showing its stronger
Thank god odyns fury is 25-30 second cd
Still, do you think that is enough to beat 600k burst on every pack some clases seem to have
You were talking tanks 🤷♀️
also I played 3k M+ last season I know how to play my class.
That is what every single warriors rocked it right
Yes, I run w a hunter and rogue as geared as me while the rogue gets PI and we are extremely close in overall
And I’m rank 1 world warr currently (obvi skewed by day 1 na tyran) but I’d say I know how to play the class just fine
So yes, to answer your doomer question, there’s a reason to play fury right now
You play fury ?
anybody knows why wafting devotion is soo much better than other enchants ? its bugged or something?
…yes I play fury. What?
Ok cool I guess

So how do you beat time when you have to open without odyns fury
You lose a pack and accept you aren’t a perma cooldown class anymore
The same way that some packs you absolutely pump them
First 20 
And then you go into m+ and you’re just a hunter pet until one of your CDs is up
question, so im looking at my vault and im torn between my BIS shoulders for the raid tier set or the "Branch of the Tormented Ancient" trinket. raid bots says the trinket would be my best upgrade but wouldnt the raid tier set piece be better in the long run?
I thought that was 48 hours for a second
fastest witches split
So again I said that DH tank can technically outdps you while your OF is still on CD I saw that happen not only to me but to other classes as well
I mean right now liquids warrior is playing fury on a pure ST boss 
In ST with spear would you really not wanna spear first before OF to squeze 2 in the window? Wouldn't that equate to more dps?
You will beat him by the end of pack obviously
hi guys i did the worthy ally quest no splintered dream fragment is this a bug or am i just misinformed
You beat him where it matters who cares? Lol
if fury is so terrible just play arms. what else do you want these guys to say lol
are you in a raid group
@wispy mural no im not
@wispy mural what if im in a raid group maybe it bugged?
we fucken nailed it like
2+2 is slightly better, but with ilvl it pushes it over the edge
Sim yourself
you cannot complete quests in a raid group
And I agree with that it just feels bad when you play as it happens.
@wispy mural yeah im pretty sure im not in a raidgroup and completed it its not on my quest tab anymore
Assuming you have the 2 set, equip the gear and spec and run a separate sim
like it says i need to select more options, but still doesn't let me lol
how many targets? 1/5/10?
1
Yea, but make sure to change to t31 spec for 2+2
For my character is was about 3%
how do you do that lol
only way I can get new 4set to sim higher is with 10 mobs, 5 and under 2set/2set sims higher
You running new spec with it?
yep
You stop obsessing over 30s of every pull lol
There’s no way lol
if you look at the inputs, 489 options are available for each tier slot, yet 2set/2set sims higher
quite happy with this vault for the week (since I usually wasn't able to do 18's last season on first vault) so hopefully something good tomorrow 🙏
yo guys if i go 2+2 do i go for the annihilator build?
yea..that's what im gonna do tomorrow probably
on m+ change to storm of swords @unreal crane ? thanks for answering my question
yea for both raid and M+
thank you
M+ is more debatable
got so many offset items with high ilvl that are waiting to be equipped
But raid yes
is everyone else simming lower with 2set t31?
What are you simming 5 minute ST?
With old 4 set?
I'm at like 180k with new set, never got close to that before 4 set
use new talents
2p+2P is said to be around the same as 4p t30, maybe less for some. It's 4P when it rocks
I don't really give a shit about raid, so its 5 target 5 mins
If you're trying for M+, that's not gonna do it.
So you think fury is fine, and can keep up with "meta" specs(that will probably get nerfed I know) but.
Since 4 set been popping off. I'd say don't count out the spec until after 4 set
Seems very good
Yes
Leggo will push us up
Sure, if we get it 😄
General performance in raid or M+. It seems BM hunters and DH just dominate everything ST and AOE at the moment.
yeah seeing a dh doing over a 1 million dps is a little insane rn
So far at least
granted those are huge pulls but im only doing 4-500k in comparison
I did 1mil on few pulls but I am never able to keep it up, DH on other hand
I’m pretty sure top end warriors peak over 1mil
we still want allied bracers+ shadowflame cloak?
maybe, depends
on focus
od shadowflame x 2
Anyone have a Weak aura for the Bloodbath Tnew tier tracker?
We burst over 1mil in big packs as well, esp in lust, but yes DH overall will beat us
DH is illegal
I've done a few 7-800k pulls without the new tier set, we're fine id say, especially once we get more gear since we scale super well with ilvl
DH having its shadowlands survival hunter moment
I understand need to "overbuff" specs after rework, but they overdid themselves here 😄
I know it isn't your first time playing wow so why you actin like it is dog
Its just weird that it happens still 😄
I've played the same warrior since vanilla. have my vanilla pvp title
the game for me is beating the broken shit, not becoming it
but I get that's personal
Don’t really need one
Nah, that is a good way of looking at it. What is my biggest issue now is the fact that this expansion warriors were rly low on general utility. We are damage bot almost, and now we are "mid of the pack" damage bot.
there's no reason for int shout to be target capped
Like even for pvp it doesn't really matter unless blizzard is that concerned with rbg balance
just uncap it
You never want to be top, rogue and DH are coming back to earth as soon as this race ends
Nah they're gonna get nerfs that don't really change anything
Bro your wife must put up with so much
I mean S prist dominated 2 seasons.
But yeah you are probably right they will get gutted.
Nerf bat is on the way.
Wife just made me dinner and went to get monsters while I was finishing keys bruh, she’s an absolute gem
They did and then got gutted lol
Sp is trash, we’re never S BUT we’re also never nerfed to dog water
True, I guess I just played a lot with BM and DH this season. At least I had easy run on some keys 😄
We’re good enough to work, this game truly revolves around friends and preset groups, I would say I wouldn’t recommend DPS warr if you’re a hardcore PUG only player
They don't need to nerf us to dogwater because half the time we're already dogwater
Season 1 was real bad until like the third buff
I am mostly pugging, so yeah you are probably right.
Every team runs a DPS warr
I mean if you’re pugging and want to climb, you kinda have to be meta or so outstanding that people remember you…but then you’re not pugging anymore lol
People are sheep, they see higher sims or a well known streamer running with their 5 and dogpile on it
Yeah true, my only problem with warrior, is the fact that sometimes you feel unable to affect some affixes enough.
For raid we are meta, for M+ we’re middle of the pack as always…nothing changes, HOWEVER leggo truly may push us into S tier
We have 0 affix/dungeon specific utility
We do great ST in our AOE spec, we are tanky as fuck, there are A LOT of reflects currently, shockwave is extremely useful, you bring AP if you run a phys comp etc
Like not even something small like a purge or soothe
anyone elses Spear sim really close to a roar ST sim? mines only like 1.3K away from each other, like, spear is better, but 1.3 in a world where its like a 173 sim seems on the smaller side
Rally needs darkness treatment in 5 man content but it’s still a good CD
Yeah, being tanky probably is helping group, but most people actually do not see that, as "useful"
Yeah they’re close this tier Dark
Smart players do 🙂
Especially this season so far..the key timers are extremely forgiving if you don’t faceplant, and we don’t faceplant
anyone have that macro for avatar that uses that "known" thing? for spear and thunderous roar
idk how to make it
Should be in the wowhead guide brother
oh ok, tyty
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
where do i put the "[@cursor]" for spear? this one doesnt have it
That’s actually a good question, I have elvui set to swap bars when I swap talent builds
Need someone smarter than I for that one homie!
i'll try to make it work here, ty for your help bro
/cast [@cursor] [known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
it worked like that 🙂
is there something wrong with raidbots and our tier? I'm forcing it to include 4pc t31 and 0pc t30 and it's selecting the t30 and telling me it's 7% higher. Making sure that I have annihilator and odyn's talent selected
Wooo
thanks blizzard, very cool
GODDAMN lol
kinda F
yeah
i always tell my friends i hate taking tier from vault this early, i guess this is my punishment
especially this tier where its realy easy to get
i got 2p and can get 4p on reset without vault
catalist being out early is huge
Btw stupid question, but does Gorehawl actually deals more damage to demon enemies in Black Rook Hold for example?
i was going to as well, even thought of taking the pants for better ilvl out of spite
Slightly
its bassically a meme ? 😄
it does some extra damage there and Darkheart but it's the overall weapon that makes it good.
Do you want to use all 3 bloodthirsts before using avatar after OF, or nah
doesnt matter
is that neck from the anniversary any good for us?
It's 441
it maxes at 463 with a proc
fury is 4pc-->2pc2pc right?
If it sims better use it. 463 is lower range of ilvl this season though
Is there a weak aura for the new tier set?
Check wago or UI channel
is there a reason why we craft it on cloak?
axe attack stronk
Does anyone have a general idea of how much the jump from 2 and 2 set to 4 set is dps wise?
Question, do i lose anything off of just using of and avatar within a few gcds off each other besides bleed dam?
nice catalist pieces
^^
id take helm but depends what u have
I got enough pieces with curio and a charge to do 4 piece tier 31. Gonna wait until vault next Tuesday to see what I get in case its better.
its better to wait for 2 pc before switching builds correct?
yes
why the prio on gnarlroot weapon?
stats
yeah the auto attack buff dancing blades doesn't stack duration it just pandemics so you are losing uptime on that, and it's a super strong buff so that matters.
#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor, known:Spear of Bastion] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
goes inside the brackets with the known check
can someone help review my sim
im sure someone has already asked this, but on normal reclears should I just bring my alt to fyrakk and wait till world first fyrakk to clear on my warrior
apparently going t30 4p -> 2p/2p is only a 0.3% upgrade. suspect I entered something wrong
No. You're supposed to get BLP from first kiil. Plus gear and quest rewards
post it
21 atal dazar my spell reflect did 10% of my damage for that fight

spell reflecto cuzzz
BLP?
oh bad luck protection
Looks ok at a quick glance. Did you compare 2+2 against 4P t30?
yeah 4p t30 is my current gear, and i've mixed in options to get 2p+2p (vault + catalyst)
very odd as the item level upgrades would presumably also contribute quite a bit
Tier > ilvl unless a major jump, most often
so should be be crafting 476 for free or 486 for the embelished cloak or wrists
i went to hit the dummies for a bit lol, i got a second 463 springs keeper weapon (proc that heals friends) this is a 1 minute fight on target dummies
it seems to be doubling the ppm and the healing
lol
before my ppm with only one of them was 4, and healing for about 40k non crit and 80k crit
ok now it just procced 12 times in 1 minute for 1.4 million healing
shit kinda cranks
ok it might be fucking quadrupling the ppm or it doesnt run off a ppm system
im so confused
i love simming s3 loot against s2 loot and losing thousands of dps lmao
tier ?
Fury 4p > Arms 4p ?
its replacing my season 2 tier ye thats why lmao
is it ever worth taking the splinter from vault instead of a gear piece? I only cleared normal raid and 0 m+ so vaults kinda bare.
only if there are no pieces you need and no ilvl upgrades this early in the season
i used 1 for a minute and did 4k hps, used 2 and it did 20k hps
its kinda gross
There is a helm but 2/8 champion but not tier set and I have no other tier pieces
nothing else thats good?

if there is litteraly nothing then you take socket and hang on to it till you get better stuff
Is worth to break last ssn 4p for new 2p?
Sim yourself but probablty
What should I pick? Hard to sim for rings since stats are kinda F-ed up
as an opener for new fury set. how long do we delay avatar and TR?
Is cloak or wrists higher prio for embelishment ilvl. should I craft 486 right now? I can craft both to 476
just got a signet brand from normal and my gm is trying to swap the snake trinket for it, I just /pet him
what tier piece is considered the worst one?
I only have 1 piece of tier but I got a trinket
rezan is purely a ST trinket, isn't it?
@balmy shore padder
meanwhile augury doing like 8% overall
Yah...
IT'S TUESDAY IT DOESN'T COUNT

heroic tindral 
nyume before its pulled 
i know it depends on how the tank pulls and so on, but how much overall dmg do you guys usually do in like a atal dazar (without augment evoker)
The answer is probably 90k-210k
on tswift now 😭 not excited to see 2 fps
last week i was in a slideshow
can someone help me with Season 3 tier set i had Season 2 tier set then swap for Season 3 tier set and now i am doing less dmg over all its kinda gay
i only have 2 set
over the 4 set with Season 2
Like you’re dicking things left and right?
Gay means happy in old British. So how does less dps make you happier
dont swap until you have new 4 set

T31 2p is fine. and you can get used to it.
What are the best two slots for 2 piece? Gonna use two tokens to get it
Are you playing correctly
most likely not
got the new 2 set. trying to tell my brain to stop spamming rampage is hard
boss is already dead on my screen
All you should care about is item level
If I have 2pc and not 4pc do I still run the annihilator build for m+ thats on the guides?
Yes
anyone know where i go to change the latency thing for keybinds i forget what its called
question!
since we go in first with recklessness and odyns fury
do we bloodbath/bloodthirst 3 times first before using avatar?
Hey guys does anyone know why when i use top gear it wont tell me that 4pc is better then old 4pc?
not without seeing the sim
It doesn’t magically change your talents that are enabled by your new set
You do that manually
oh gotcha lol
For st space them out a little
whats the opener for t31?
the order sophic/wafting is irrelevant, right?
and in m+ packs we just insta ava?
According to sim I lose dps going to new set in multi target is that right?
So we should be using avatar 3-4 seconds after odyn's fury in both st and aoe?
You can stagger it to refresh ww stacks
you're dropping some dps talents for shockwave so yeah that's possible
also aoe apl might not be as optimised as st one
It very rarely is
i could look at it at some point but effort
whats new opener with t31 4pc
470 Augury in my vault, do I take it over mythic track tier?
clear normal first then choose
reck > charge > ramp > of > spear/roar > bb> ramp > bb > ava > etc.
yeah lol




