well let's hear him out
#fury
ember apex
brave cairn
Google I'm not gonna post more about it
silent burrow
No lol
modern leaf
why is this only casting the talent in the first line. can i not put both in one macro?
/cast Thunderous Roar
/cast Odyn's Fury```
golden hare
both are on gcd
summer quail
coz they are both on the gcd
modern leaf
oh
stuck pewter
whats best of arms and fury atm in keys?
clever path
whats best of arms and fury atm in keys?
for new 4P?
stuck pewter
yes
chilly fractal
Fury owns
shell jackal
yo boys, i'm having trouble in M+ with the new 2pc + t31 build. it feels like, at times, there's a lack of thing-to-press? usually id use whirlwind or meatcleaver RB procs in the second or so between abilities, but im finding myself without buttons to press on mobs sometimes
think i'm doing something wrong 100%, just cant figure out what
chilly fractal
young swan
you shouldnt really have dead air
clever path
yo boys, i'm having trouble in M+ with the new 2pc + t31 build. it feels like, a...
2p/2p is kinda eh in mythic+ cause no CDR for OF
but shouldn't have too much dead air
shell jackal
yeah think its just a matter of getting used to it rotationally
would haste affect it at all?
young swan
BT should be every other gcd
young swan
would haste affect it at all?
maybe? i havent looked at breakpoints at all
clever path
yeah think its just a matter of getting used to it rotationally
WW every 4th GCD, BT/BB every other GCD and rampage only after a BT/BB
clever path
my thought process is that you should have OF at the start of every pull
shell jackal
maybe? i havent looked at breakpoints at all
let me know if you do look into breakpoints at all, id love to know what you find out!
also are you in the wrong channel or do you just love arms that much
young swan
i dont love arms its just good
sudden tusk
xan the arms whisperer
clever belfry
i dont love arms its just good
press spin key
i literally made a MW cause all u do in keys is press spin
gg
olive wraith
Spin to win
true sapphire
I know it aint much but first time this season I haven't done less DPS than last season feels good
eager wraith
I know it aint much but first time this season I haven't done less DPS than last...
gz!
mystic briar
I know it aint much but first time this season I haven't done less DPS than last...
Not to be that guy but ever bloom does have first boss 100% dmg amp then last boss is 300% dmg amp
rigid stirrup
timed a 20 rise - the platform start after first boss is clear the center and just pull the drakes into there so you dont get extras
drifting pulsar
supp, any chance I can have the list for the fury bis ? cause I am not sure the Icy veins one I am looking is legit
past pivot
supp, any chance I can have the list for the fury bis ? cause I am not sure the ...
Wowhead has one but even then BIS lists are best as a starting guide to aim for
drifting pulsar
any changes with the talents ?
past pivot
any changes with the talents ?
What do you mean? Talents have changed but what talents you use changes with what gear you have and what you're doing.
drifting pulsar
I am not the most expert fury, wow player in general
I am just saying cause I want to confirm with the upodates in case I am seeing wrong talents
balmy shore
the talents change after getting the new tier if that’s what’s tripping you up
balmy shore
now i have to do dps again :(
did you quack all over them
balmy shore
lmaooo
dapper goblet
does anyone have the copy pasta and cheese for simming all races
chrome plover
Race sim - paste this below your simc-dump in Advanced Sim
profileset."Pandaren"+="race=pandaren"
profileset."Blood Elf"+="race=blood_elf"
profileset."Orc"+="race=orc"
profileset."Tauren"+="race=tauren"
profileset."Troll"+="race=troll"
profileset."Undead"+="race=undead"
profileset."Goblin"+="race=goblin"
profileset."Highmountain Tauren"+="race=highmountain_tauren"
profileset."Nightborne"+="race=nightborne"
profileset."Mag'har Orc"+="race=maghar_orc"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Akunda)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Akunda)"+="zandalari_loa=akunda"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Bwonsamdi)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Bwonsamdi)"+="zandalari_loa=bwonsamdi"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Gonk)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Gonk)"+="zandalari_loa=gonk"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kimbul)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kimbul)"+="zandalari_loa=kimbul"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kragwa)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kragwa)"+="zandalari_loa=kragwa"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Pa'ku)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Pa'ku)"+="zandalari_loa=paku"
profileset."Vulpera"+="race=vulpera"
profileset."Draenei"+="race=draenei"
profileset."Dwarf"+="race=dwarf"
profileset."Gnome"+="race=gnome"
profileset."Human"+="race=human"
profileset."Night Elf (Night)"+="race=night_elf"
profileset."Night Elf (Night)"+="timeofday=night"
profileset."Night Elf (Day)"+="race=night_elf"
profileset."Night Elf (Day)"+="timeofday=day"
profileset."Worgen"+="race=worgen"
profileset."Void Elf"+="race=void_elf"
profileset."Lightforged Draenei"+="race=lightforged_draenei"
profileset."Dark Iron Dwarf"+="race=dark_iron_dwarf"
profileset."Kul Tiran"+="race=kul_tiran"
profileset."Mechagnome"+="race=mechagnome
dapper goblet
:chatting:
sullen basin
Race sim - paste this below your simc-dump in Advanced Sim
> profileset."Pandare...
I lose 5 dps as a human
I am a human
rotund ginkgo
GET ME OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
chrome plover
I lose 5 dps as a human
I am a human
variance
rotund ginkgo
bro dies TWICE on packs and on details LITERALLY does not death strike himself for 3 SECONDS STRAIGHT
with THIS ROUTE
rotund ginkgo
Race sim - paste this below your simc-dump in Advanced Sim
> profileset."Pandare...
wtf i cant do that it says 27mil iterations
18* mil
chrome plover
skill issue i guess
rotund ginkgo
brave cairn
bro dies TWICE on packs and on details LITERALLY does not death strike himself f...
Skill issue
rotund ginkgo
yep
says "stop talking annoying the pulls are fine"
how can a pull be fine if u have to announce its a hard pack that we successfully do, then u die on an "easy" pack ._.
patent sinew
Can we still put extra sockets into necks? >.< been so long since lariet i forgot how it works 😂
brave cairn
Can we still put extra sockets into necks? >.< been so long since lariet i forgo...
You buy 3 tiers of tiered settings
Attach them 1by1 in order
Rank 1 then 2 then 3
patent sinew
Cool thanks ❤️
chilly fractal
Rank 1 then 2 then 3
Except don’t buy a rank 1
Rank 1 is always ridiculously expensive and is useless
rotund ginkgo
brave cairn
Idk but I don't rly care about saving 100 gold
chilly fractal
Rank 2 will cover rank 1
brave cairn
When I have 4mil in the bank
rotund ginkgo
👏
brave cairn
Rather feed my ocd
rotund ginkgo
👏
chilly fractal
Why is your gold in the bank
patent sinew
oh... i read this too late i bought rank 1 😂
brave cairn
Why is your gold in the bank
Interest
chilly fractal
I need to get some interest
rotund ginkgo
pickpockets will hear the sound of his dummy thick pockets clapping against his thighs as he walks
chilly fractal
I keep my millions in my front pockets
rotund ginkgo
fallow adder
i cant break more than 110k overall in m+ when i can get 160k+ overall as arms (i have 2p + 2p) is that normal ? fury should be an easier spec no ?
im playing the t31 talent setup since i broke old 4 set
sullen basin
didnt people say arms is better on higher keys and fury is better on lower keys where arms doesnt have time to press fun buttons?
eager wraith
where do i trade this?
fallow adder
eager wraith
but i guess its same cap anyway?
wet veldt
guys I don't have two 2h weapons, do we have SMF build for us tanks with 1h swords to do some dps ?
fallow adder
didnt people say arms is better on higher keys and fury is better on lower keys ...
ye probably. as fury i have a lot of damage burst but it falls off suuuuuper hard down to 100 - 110k. i'll see how it is with 4 set but arms 4 set is very very strong for aoe so i doubt it's a fury season
brave cairn
where do i trade this?
All of these conversions are kinda shit anyway
Just spam some keys if you aren't capped since they always scam you
eager wraith
All of these conversions are kinda shit anyway
ye but i got 199 xD
brave cairn
You pay more than you get
chrome plover
but i guess its same cap anyway?
if ur capped on drakes you cant get any more
unfortunately
fast mural
You pay more than you get
he is never gonna use whelplings ever again so it doesnt matter
fading bane
man Council mythic is such a clusterfuck
rotund steppe
man Council mythic is such a clusterfuck
man Council mythic is such a clusterfuck
fixed
fading bane
Nymue should be good
unreal onyx
first raid week and im benched already 
modest condor
council is a clusterfuck on every difficulty
i still dont know what's going on on that fight
unreal onyx
refused to play arms?
im on business trip from tuesday to friday
and we started myth today and they killed gnarlroot just now
and now and tomorrow going on igira
fading bane
we got a hang of council now
unreal onyx
for vault
fading bane
but we just sperged it on hc and normal
balmy shore
i think council is my least favorite because of how chaotic it is
i like controlled chaos
tender sky
i still dont know what's going on on that fight
as is tradition in council fights
balmy shore
the bosses are just so spread everywhere and everything's happening all at once and i just want to hit the boss
modest condor
yeah i was just jumping around the room attacking whatever boss was highest hp
and doing some duck stuff when we had a lot of patches
sometimes i remembered there was a charge i had to soak
silent burrow
council is a clusterfuck on every difficulty
I have offered to sit this boss for eternity. I never want to do it
It's terrible
modest condor
yeah dont need any loot from it anyway
balmy shore
rest of the raid bangs though
i really like the raid in general
i think my fave out of the three this expac
just council feels like it's missing something i don't love about it
summer quail
i wish i could get sat on council but i'm the only warrior
balmy shore
gg
sullen basin
I got a "not yet" purple on normal does that mean im good now
sullen basin
i wish i could get sat on council but i'm the only warrior
how evil are thge mythic mechanics
its already dogshit on njormal
summer quail
not done mythic yet
silent burrow
Unironically them nerfing the bear's hp makes the encounter even worse to play
chrome plover
how evil are thge mythic mechanics
it's fun as fuck
i was duck for the whole fight clearing pools
sullen basin
mythic+ raid
delete mythic and make it mythic+ so it starts at heroic and gets worse than mythic by the time you get to like +10 🙂
balmy shore
warcraftlogs should show duck parses tbh
forest owl
does anyone know of any weak aura packs that help alert you to important interupts in m+?
fading bane
umbral ingot
💯
rancid shoal
Is fury gunna catch up to arms with the new tier?
frosty scroll
disgraceful
a man of culture
chrome plover
Is fury gunna catch up to arms with the new tier?
yea
icy cliff
how is Trinket "Augury? Still BIS? Rogue said today there are news and on Outlaw its now not best trinket
chrome plover
we are not rogues
chrome plover
it's between augury and rezans
rare fjord
what the hell is augury
balmy shore
trinkie in raid
icy cliff
Augury of the Primal Flame
icy cliff
it's between augury and rezans
Augury is between Augury and rezan? 😄
chrome plover
Augury is between Augury and rezan? 😄
no that trinket slot is between augury and rezan
they are very close in single target
fading bane
@modest condor is this shit simming correctly, cus holy fuck it does dmg
chrome plover
other trinket is still brand i think
chrome plover
its consistently doing like 100% more dmg than rezan
fading bane
thats ST btw
chrome plover
that's cursed
chrome plover
wild mural
nerf armns the fuck
chrome plover
it's in my heroic slot surely
olive wraith
Show that to the dude that was saying fury m+ is better than arms
wild mural
overall
serene vessel
the bosses are just so spread everywhere and everything's happening all at once ...
feel like there's so many of these fights this tier, so much time where i just wanna hit the boss but cant
rare fjord
fury and arms are amazingly comparable in m+
serene vessel
too many dumb charges
rare fjord
almost exact same rio up to rank 160
for both specs
i think ima switch arms cuz fury gives me carpal tunnel
sudden tusk
<@105847932611231744> is this shit simming correctly, cus holy fuck it does dmg
its busted but its also no prim stat
chrome plover
every mythic slot is ass, cus it cant get fyrakk
my weapons are 463 and 450 sooo
gnarlroot slot kinda owns
serene vessel
i think ima switch arms cuz fury gives me carpal tunnel
arms presses just a smuch buttons as fury now
silver mantle
How are we feeling about mirror trinket?
fading bane
its busted but its also no prim stat
true, dmg is still obscene tho
chrome plover
How are we feeling about mirror trinket?
good for big burst
too long cooldown for fury to really love
I'm using it rn on nymue because my add is dying too slow
silver mantle
Just got it to pop off on a big BL pull
But ye
That 3min CD is too long
Make it 2min bliz pls
unreal onyx
with new tier?
forest owl
yeah same that buffed BB into elysian might is huge
chrome plover
450k bbs mmm
compact cairn
is there a crafted gear sim chart?
i wanna go legs with shadow patch instead of wristguards of unity so i can get engi wrists with brez
but i know itsp robably less dmg sim wise
wild mural
with new tier?
Yeah 2/2
unreal onyx
but i know itsp robably less dmg sim wise
gear compare
compact cairn
oh true
forest owl
do we take shockwave in m+ now btw?
modest condor
yes
forest owl
cheers
subtle knoll
So why do we take annihilator build as well? We could take rb and not have to fool with slam as filler. Or is the white DMG from annihilator just so much better than rb fillers?
Also ww wouldn't have cd
sullen dove
cuz you need a lot more talent points to make both rb and bt good at the same time
modest condor
because the 4set favours pressing bloodthirst a lot
forest owl
dont think we can afford to spam rb with bb build cause of tierset
modest condor
without any of the raging blow talents raging blow is basically just slam
so why not press slam instead and get some passive damage from annihilator
sullen dove
and yea youre basically hard locked into pressing bb/bt every other global, and anni is just better for that
subtle knoll
Im talking about just swapping storm and annihilator for 2 rb talents for filler
subtle knoll
and yea youre basically hard locked into pressing bb/bt every other global, and ...
Gotcha
That's what I was asking
sullen dove
you gain less rage i would assume among other things
anni rage goes hard
and youre already down odyns/dancing blades so more anni hits from that is cool
at least i think it is more hits
higher attackspeed
subtle knoll
Yeah I figured the dps was just too good w annihilator compared to rb as a filler
I was thinking of aoe, I know st the OF talent is nice for white DMG and speed
modest condor
i mean the same thing still applies
without any of the extra talents, raging blow is basically just slam
subtle knoll
Slam doesn't have more than 1 charge and it has a longer cd, it also doesn't hit as hard
forest owl
making slam tooltip look like rb bis
modest condor
neither does raging blow without talenting into it
subtle knoll
That's why I said talent into it ..
modest condor
ok so you talent out of bloodthirst talents?
subtle knoll
Nevermind lol I think your confused about what I'm saying
quiet geyser
dusky swallow
which build do y'all use for open world content? the M+ one? Raid?
forest owl
im almost always in m+ build open world
nocturne carbon
Imaging not playing prot in open world
wild mural
Imagine playing outside of endgame content
clever path
Imaging not playing prot in open world
Prot in War Mode 
brave silo
does rezan's eye trinket spreads the bleed in aoe too or only on one target regardless?
olive wraith
It doesn’t cleave
Not sure if you can tab target to apply more than 1 bleed though
Assume it’s limited by ppm regardless
covert blaze
Imagine playing outside of endgame content
Imagine playing the game
wild mural
Imagine playing the game
Based
My guild don’t seem to have gotten either Fyrakk or Gnarlroot down
tidal heron
Stupid question, but, I'm still running previous season build (cause no tier), but since Reck activates Avatar, and Avatar activates Recklessness, should I wait for both buffs to have ran out completely before activating the other one?
So, for instance I'll use reck then charge into a pack and start ragingblow/bloodthirst/rampage (whatever is prio), but then Reck will still be running, yet avatar ran out, do I then pop avatar again, or is that bad and will I lose uptime (or even lose value as it'll overwrite the original reck with the "lesser" reck?)
unreal onyx
avatar before reck/rav to not bug it
using reck/rav before avatar will lose you uptime
tidal heron
oh, so I can actually macro them, as long as I put avatar before reck in the macro?
fickle bluff
using reck/rav before avatar will lose you uptime
this has been fixed
unreal onyx
has it? that's big
so it doesn't matter then
I macro'd reck+rav together as they share CD
tidal heron
so I can safely macro both and use that one key to activate whenever either one of them is up?
(ava + reck)
tidal heron
I don't have any tier 😉
fading bane
then its fine
olive wraith
It’s better to macro rav and reck
tidal heron
I've read the tier setup, and know you can't then, but "previous" tier
fading bane
but dont get into the habit, cus you wont play like that for long
olive wraith
Both have same cd and affected by anger management
fading bane
prev tier its fine
tidal heron
I'll already get another keybind for it, to get "used" to having them on separate ones then
willow cradle
this has been fixed
Just a whole patch too late
simple juniper
Can anyone exchange lower crests for upper crests?
olive wraith
You have to have a certain ilvl
north geyser
what is the priority of items to upgrade with flightstones?
clever path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064304935312830474/1176102402697461831/I...
If you catalyst this does it keep the leech
compact knot
i believe so
unreal onyx
there is a base leech pair of pants?
olive wraith
Those are legs I though
unreal onyx
man I don't know anything about gear this season
olive wraith
Thought
olive wraith
Doi leather legs
fading bane
its leather
olive wraith
Yes
compact knot
im aware
glad valve
And over rampüage?
olive wraith
No
glad valve
So BT > Rampage > SD?
compact knot
sudden death is a weird spot as it changes prio depending on if your in your burst or not
glad valve
And same question for Thunderous Roar 😄
olive wraith
Bt isn’t always above rampage
glad valve
Yea well ofc when its bloodbath
compact knot
the prio also feels a bit weird, there are times where its better to press bt over rampage (ie no recklessness and not far above rampage rage cost)
olive wraith
Odyns>bb>ramp>bt=sd depending on your rage I believe
compact knot
^
glad valve
What about Thunderous roar?
compact knot
ramp and bt flip around
olive wraith
It’s better to bt before ramp when you’re under 100 rage iirc
TR is sent with Ava I think
olive wraith
Unless you’re running uproar
glad valve
Hm okay.. why do ppl play it with 30sec CD reduce at Fyrakk HC? 😄
olive wraith
Then sync with Ava when able. And probably tr before of when it doesn’t
gaunt scarab
hi guys which part are we suppose to catalyst for set ?
compact knot
Hm okay.. why do ppl play it with 30sec CD reduce at Fyrakk HC? 😄
pad on adds
olive wraith
hi guys which part are we suppose to catalyst for set ?
Any missing piece
olive wraith
4p> being choosy and waiting for “bis”
compact knot
uproar doesnt feel required though for that, its a small window but your able to fill it in every time if you send them instantly
olive wraith
I’d hold cata until you have 3p personally
glad valve
Roger. Thx guys 🙂
compact knot
best piece to not cata has felt like helm, then just get helm from atal
if you dont wanna farm then dont be picky
compact knot
not a single bad thing to catalyst
if your going for tier
dont use the charge until you have 3p though like kalaiath said
gaunt scarab
i have 0 p right now :'
olive wraith
So if you catalyst chest rn for example and it drops in vault tomorrow
You wasted a catalyst
Just hold the catalyst
chilly fractal
HODL
compact knot
HOLD
wild mural
im out here spamming any streamers in guild chat cause they're doing mythic and don't have a spot for me
compact knot
thats augury right
compact knot
prob just a skill issue (i have no idea what the trinket does)
dire badge
i reread it, and now it makes more sense
hate it when this happens
modest condor
i still dont understand what "further increased by critical strikes" means
does it mean if the trinket itself crits it increases the cap?
compact knot
reading that trinket doesnt make any sense
olive wraith
Stonks increase
compact knot
it doesnt seem to increase the damage? maybe ppm
fading bane
does it mean if the trinket itself crits it increases the cap?
Not sure
but if you are in CDs
the buffs fades insta
cus ur crits are massive
with BB
lemme look what it does on first proc
fair wolf
allied wrist are bis for raid?
fading bane
340k
70k more than tooltip
it seems to do way more dmg when it doesnt get consumed insta
sudden tusk
crit rating cnreases cap maybe
fading bane
cus you get more crits, but less big ones
sudden tusk
or if you snapshot a crit before its consumed
fading bane
i think its jsut amount of crits
sudden tusk
it does the full dam maybe
fading bane
the first proc i got cds ofc, and it did low dmg
at 2min i have no cds and it pumped
modest condor
340k
i mean as i said earlier, i've had procs do like 1mil damage
900k from one of them
fading bane
1 mil
modest condor
if my idea is correct then many small hits would be good for the trinket
spiral oasis
fading bane
if my idea is correct then many small hits would be good for the trinket
this is what im thinking too
so if it procs outside of cds or on AoE
it does more dmg
summer quail
good thing fury is the small hit machine
dh eye beam tho
compact knot
sounds like we should be SMF for augury
iron holly
Is fury so much worse than arms? Having trouble deciding
compact knot
its not much worse
summer quail
you make it sound like you have to choose between one of the specs
compact knot
just play both
iron holly
that's fair lol. i tend to stick to one braincell mindset
compact knot
arms cranks in m+, fury does good aoe burst in raid, both are good at single target once you get tier
or just play whats more fun
and or more familiar with
fading bane
good thing fury is the small hit machine
massive hits with 4pc bt, so if it procs outside that ur chillin
fading bane
with gnarlroot
spec lots of AoE and its free
the faster the adds die, the easier it is
compact knot
lmfao
solar nebula
Hi guys, quick question. What are the best stats for fury warrior with the new tier set and spec for M+? method.gg tells it is haste> vers. But wowhead and icy veins tells haste=mastery.
serene vessel
Hi guys, quick question. What are the best stats for fury warrior with the new t...
i dont know what the hell method.gg is but you should sim urself
fading bane
mastery best
solar nebula
master and what would be the 2nd best?
I need to know towards what gear I should aim
in general, simming is not out of question
compact knot
vers probably
solar nebula
I am planning to craft an item and do not know what stats to pick
compact knot
sim
serene vessel
I need to know towards what gear I should aim
the realistic problem is that it's not a question anyone can really answer. It depends on your character
most stats are pretty similar for fury
unreal onyx
simming will ofc not know what items you'll get in the future
and just tell you what is best at the moment
edgy widget
I need to know towards what gear I should aim
the highest ilevel
compact knot
hes crafting
edgy widget
beyond that you can sim droptimizer to know what dungeons have the best chance of an upgrade
solar nebula
simming will ofc not know what items you'll get in the future
exactly, most of my gear will change and I want to craft an item now
edgy widget
you can sim that too
also not really any reason to craft right now, I'd wait until Vault next week
compact knot
safe option is haste/mastery
solar nebula
also not really any reason to craft right now, I'd wait until Vault next week
why so?
edgy widget
haste/mastery is always a good bet, because you can just gear around that
compact knot
other safe option is mastery/vers
wild mural
spec lots of AoE and its free
moar aoe
solar nebula
I am planning to craft Vibrant Wildercloth Shawl cloak with the Shadowflame-Tempered Armor Patch embellishment effect.
olive wraith
Did you already replace your current embellishment
young ether
I got a really good cloak with avoidance today 476 so might just craft shadow flame on boots on reset since I only got 470 boots atm
solar nebula
I do not have any crafted items
still iron
Who else here feels terribly about annihilator
covert blaze
Who else here feels terribly about annihilator
have you tried it with windfury?
calm swallow
I enjoyed the annihilator playstyle in S1, at the time I had wished it was better but it was bad for keys so I didn't really get to play it much outside of leveling
still iron
I mostly jam m+ I guess but I just hate seeing one of the couple buttons we got go
solar nebula
another question, might be stupid. For example - why icy veins recommends to craft cloak with the shadowflame embellishment? Why not some other item?
I mean it is the first recommendation in the list
still iron
Why does icy veins do a lot of shit tbh
solar nebula
Just checking info on all sites and wondering
serene vessel
another question, might be stupid. For example - why icy veins recommends to cra...
crafted items cannot be highest ilvl, so you do what is lowest stat budget
olive wraith
I mostly jam m+ I guess but I just hate seeing one of the couple buttons we got ...
Good news. You can use slam
fading bane
im doing wrist -> ring with BSL -> shadowflame piece
solar nebula
wrists are even better on sims?
fervent turtle
question:didnt the order of recklessness and avatar in a maro mattered in the past. i just tried both orders and it didnt seem to make a difference.
olive wraith
There was a bug that has now been fixed
fervent turtle
guessed so, thx
solar nebula
im doing wrist -> ring with BSL -> shadowflame piece
what BSL stands for? sorry new on war
fading bane
Blue Silken Lining
fervent turtle
is there any reason NOT to macro Reck and Avatar other than to refresh Whirlwind stacks later in multitarget opener?
fading bane
embellishment
wild mural
ember apex
pog
olive wraith
Tswift
compact knot
smolderon also fucks
humble plover
is there any reason NOT to macro Reck and Avatar other than to refresh Whirlwind...
I believe you reck before charging into a fight and if it's macroed to avatar your gonna waste a odyns in the middle of nowhere
ember apex
i dont like smolderon, there's no adds
compact knot
the balls though
ember apex
irrelevant
compact knot
such a fun mechanic if you do it right
wild mural
low dps warriors
compact knot
1.1 million bloodbaths
chrome plover
fervent turtle
I believe you reck before charging into a fight and if it's macroed to avatar yo...
yeah, also dont understand why you reck before charge and how much that benefits
chrome plover
1.8 mill bloodbaths
olive wraith
wild mural
what's the spell
chrome plover
I did exactly 500 bloodbaths in that key kinda cool
olive wraith
yeah, also dont understand why you reck before charge and how much that benefits
Reck doubles rage gain
humble plover
yeah, also dont understand why you reck before charge and how much that benefits
Generates enough rage to rampage off the rip
compact knot
^
chrome plover
yeah, also dont understand why you reck before charge and how much that benefits
90 rage vs 70
for first global ramp
fervent turtle
when i charge and pop reck on target i rage cap instantly with overwhelming rage anyway
chrome plover
no you dont
compact knot
you dont though
olive wraith
He’s running -2 talents in overwhelming rage
fervent turtle
nope i got 2/2 there
fervent turtle
just tried i rage cap when i macro Reck with avatar
wild mural
Lezgoooo
compact knot
just tried i rage cap when i macro Reck with avatar
you dont macro it with avatar too
its reck first then charge
thats it
chrome plover
you also hold avatar for a few seconds after OF
with dancing blades
so even if you did rage cap from reck after charge (you dont) it's still not ideal to macro them together
olive wraith
Maybe he has 40 pre rage from critters
ember apex
lol i almost spit out my water
humble plover
Rage reasons aside. You'd be wasting a OF to the wind
chrome plover
you also want to be enraged for OF with dancing blades
there's 3 reasons, you can pick whichever one you want
fervent turtle
ok now we get into more convincing waters..
fervent turtle
an unenraged "small" avatar OF once per fight / every 1.5 min wont make that much of a differnce though
olive wraith
I wish bt didn’t have shared cd
humble plover
I wish someone paid me in Trident layers
compact knot
ive gotten use to that, big bt not cleaving actually makes me so angry
olive wraith
I wanted ramp - bb-bb-bt
compact knot
i did too
ember apex
big BT doesn't cleave?
humble plover
No
olive wraith
Not the tier boosted one
humble plover
Only primary target
olive wraith
Well. It cleaves but the added damage doesn’t
So it’s a basic bb for cleave purposes
olive wraith
Bb hitting for 500k. 4 secondary targets get hit for 250k
Every 3rd gcd or so
Kinda broken
ember apex
oh no what a crime
warm plinth
on mythic council, is there a trigger that causes aerwynn to jump across the room or is it random?
we're using a timer wa to track when she does it but she skips it all the time
ember apex
theres a warlock in my guild that has a trinket hitting for 1.6M+
olive wraith
Wait is cleave still 50%
olive wraith
How often does it hit for 1.6m
ember apex
lmao what am i a fucking caster scientist
idk
so i cant do good dps b/c his trinket is infrequent?
olive wraith
Hey you brought the trinket up
I don’t know that trinket
Is it a flat damage with a cooldown? Is it a proc
ember apex
olive wraith
So 1.6m on a 2min cooldown
ember apex
so b/c warlocks get that trinket. i cant do good cleave dps
olive wraith
You’re comparing 1.6m over 2 mins to 1.5m every 5-10 seconds
Sorry scratch that
20 second
ember apex
sorry am i not allowed to do aoe dps on mobs
wild mural
fury strong 💪
ember apex
first of all we need to understand confront and accept we're undertuned in aoe and in ST even with 4p
olive wraith
I like how you’re using warlocks too and not dh/outlaw
olive wraith
Our st is okay
olive wraith
Okay doesn’t mean best
ember apex
what are we best at
olive wraith
Nothing. Someone has to be mid
true sapphire
Applying to key
olive wraith
Survivability maybe
ember apex
we would be the best ST and AoE DPS in the game
olive wraith
I never said we were the best lol
ember apex
yeah but this is about striving
olive wraith
Would you rather be lower?
olive wraith
Imagine if we had that original 2 button rotation
ember apex
surivivability is skill
olive wraith
valid moon
What are we crafting with 2nd spark of tomorrow?
ember apex
u survive if ur good
valid moon
already got allied wrists
olive wraith
We only get half tomorrow I think
chrome plover
What are we crafting with 2nd spark of tomorrow?
cloak with shadowflame prob
chrome plover
We only get half tomorrow I think
2 halves make a whole
ember apex
u know who had best survivability in shadowlands. podtender night fae specs
olive wraith
Do we have 1.5 now?
valid moon
cloak with shadowflame prob
Thanks papa
chrome plover
Do we have 1.5 now?
well i have .5
winged tartan
Do we have 1.5 now?
yup
chrome plover
but yes
olive wraith
Wasn’t even paying attention lol
olive wraith
You farming for axe?
olive wraith
Well the trink isn’t awful right?
sudden tusk
@young swan change your name to axe propagandist so i can get my weppy ty
young swan
<@137363315817971712> change your name to axe propagandist so i can get my weppy...
🫡 good luck soldier
sudden tusk
🫡 good luck soldier
this on for sure o7
wild mural
we get a spark on weds night right
olive wraith
Tuesday
young swan
i get mine tomorrow
wild mural
NA diff 
olive wraith
lost rivet
wednesday finally item craftng
ember apex
is there any fight that arms is definitively better than fury on in this entire raid
young swan
council
buoyant salmon
why are u depleting half of them
sudden tusk
IM NOT THE PROBLEM
brittle crow
idk it seems like ur the common denominator here
serene vessel
its my team thats holding me back
ember apex
honestly i bet like 50% of +20s this week have been getting depleted
we dont know stats for sure tho
i did a 20 ToTT last thursday and last boss bugged out for 15sec and we depleted 0:04sec over timer
frank dawn
You mean you didn’t get 40 deaths on the gauntlet? Sounds sus to me
olive wraith
Bruh fuck that hall
frank dawn
Yes
frank dawn
ember apex
thats like the first week of sepulcher when halondrus came out on LFR i tanked it and i got bitched at by some warlock to "stop moving the f*cking boss!"
errant pond
why is this not loaded
abstract glade
What is the m+ stat ranking with t31 annihilate build ?
Somehow it says something different everywhere
rigid stirrup
Honestly this strat is better imo
random shit wont spawn nearly as often when fighting stuff
cause they'll be off tot he side
olive wraith
What is the m+ stat ranking with t31 annihilate build ?
Somehow it says somethin...
Sim is best
abstract glade
Sim is best
That goes without saying, I just wanted a guideline that I could use for orientation
olive wraith
Does it go without saying
Any stat priorities is VERY general. Sim is always the answer
If you know to sim Dw about stats
sudden tusk
why are u depleting half of them
you wana see the meters from this 18 depleeto
clever path
did we get our catalyst charge this week or last week?
olive wraith
Last week
clever path
so we'll the second one with this upcoming reset?
olive wraith
Wait no I’m sorry this week (week 1)
pearl cradle
is 2 piece fury better than 2 piece arms? also if i have no tier pieces yet cause i didnt play season 2 what build should i play?
olive wraith
For some reason I thought it was week 2 already
dusky swallow
I think this ain't bad <:gladge:963970137701109820>
Did you get T3 in vanilla? Always like seeing others with it
sudden tusk
Syi sent the wow tokens when the new naxx stuff released
viral maple
is 2 piece fury better than 2 piece arms? also if i have no tier pieces yet caus...
Turn dreamsurge / time rift gear into t30, catalyst is free for season 2 gear
viral maple
Yes, 415 dreamsurge gear costs 100 essence per piece, can be upgraded to 437, can be farmed infinitely, turns into t30 tier from catalyst
pearl cradle
bro im being annoying here but where do i get this essence
viral maple
In ohnaran plains. World quests, rares, the hourly waking dream event
trail cliff
I’m pooping right now and reading this. Give me something good to read
cedar geyser
Yes, 415 dreamsurge gear costs 100 essence per piece, can be upgraded to 437, ca...
What is a catalyst
I've been playing for a week so I'm just doing emerald dream quests and m+
sudden tusk
@fading bane everytime it does some crazy daamge i have like roar out
wonder if dots scale weird
with the effect
pearl cradle
bro thanks got my 4 piece now @viral maple should i play arms for now if im using this?
viral maple
You should play the spec you want
olive wraith
Arms = sanji
Fury= zoro
balmy shore
ok surely this is reflectable then
wild mural
balmy shore
make it reflectable!!!
clever belfry
olive wraith
Nerf bats in DT
clever belfry
zenith moat
clever path
wonder when Nerfmeta was made, back in Legion/BFA, or in 10.2?
narrow narwhal
You can check their armory
arctic portal
is for m+ only bracers + legs or patch + legs better? im not sure if i understand the guide correctly here -.-
pearl cradle
should i do a 2p 2p when i get my season 3 2 piece? or wait for 4p
upbeat plume
clever path
should i do a 2p 2p when i get my season 3 2 piece? or wait for 4p
in ST they do roughly the same damage
pearl cradle
ok thank you
clever path
I'd personally go on the 2P to get used to it more often
clever belfry
bro is making a summoning circle
clever belfry
cursed
sudden tusk
with no wep
young swan
i thought it was a summoning circle too LMFAO
sudden tusk
i thought it was a summoning circle too LMFAO
CURSE OF RA 𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑
soft otter
Guys, I think I'm gonna have to swap these two
cedar geyser
How much better is the slam build in 10.2 than the normal raging blows rotation? Because I am quite enjoying the leveling rotation but my understanding is with the new 10.2 tier it blows
Not that I have tier right now, obv
olive wraith
It’s a dps los to run ravaGer/ rb
oblique trail
@fading bane gamer
fading bane
no mog prog
oblique trail
no mogu
cedar geyser
It’s a dps los to run ravaGer/ rb
Sadge
chrome plover
nogu moguna
cedar geyser
yeah I guess I need to play challenging content before it matters lmao
clever belfry
lmao thats what it said <:keks:936231610850897992>
go bed u cretin
fading bane
no
empty grove
make it reflectable!!!
it will be
young swan
pretty sure it already is?
idk gajeel screeched at me for interrupting it when it was getting cast on him
iron sorrel
God damn it feels good to get 2 set pieces from a normal pug raid
clever belfry
idk gajeel screeched at me for interrupting it when it was getting cast on him
it' wasnt on ptr
young swan
clever belfry
maybe changed
balmy shore
pretty sure it already is?
i tried it the other day and p sure it didn't work
ebon shore
is my stat allocation messed up? wondering why my dps is so low and if im missing something
clever path
You got 4set?
oblique trail
bad game
lunar summit
is my stat allocation messed up? wondering why my dps is so low and if im missin...
Dont use crit
ebon shore
so just haste and mastery?
modest condor
sim top gear
viral maple
is my stat allocation messed up? wondering why my dps is so low and if im missin...
Are you using the annihilator build without having tier
modest condor
@fading bane love this trinket http://puu.sh/JUWxe/ee41a59ebc.png
fading bane
its so nuts
modest condor
oh it's because i got an 11 mil crit on the last boss 
how the fuck
my highest crit was 1mil
how does it do 11mil damage
tropic atlas
versed lake
hi, does the 4 set reduce the cooldown on meat cleaver bloodthirst crits? or just the primary hit?
fading bane
i just wish the buffed BT cleaved
modest condor
same
fading bane
the legendary wep will make it cleave
versed lake
so in reck you're gonna get huge reduction?
oblique trail
Surely
uneven path
Surely
modest condor
outside of reck too
you're almost guaranteed to get at least 1 crit on a 5 target cleaved bt
fading bane
its a perfect clip
young swan
truly wont be beat
fading bane
its after like 300 pulls too
vestal stirrup
Are we breaking t30 4p for t31 2p or waiting for 4p to swap?
keen kindle
ok surely this is reflectable then
How the fuck do we deal with this now?
balmy shore
press a defensive
keen kindle
It's magic ya?
scenic quest
How the fuck do we deal with this now?
press reflect for the 20% dr
balmy shore
^^
tacit crag
make it reflectable!!!
Isn't it reflectable? I'm pretty sure I reflect it
balmy shore
i thought it wasn't maybe i'm wrong 💀 i've only been able to try it once since everyone kicks it
summer quail
Isn't it reflectable? I'm pretty sure I reflect it
it is not atm, the weakaura is lying to you
scenic quest
it's not, I tried and it hit me in the face
summer quail
ye that's how we find out
tacit crag
it is not atm, the weakaura is lying to you
Are we sure?? I am like either high or 99% positive I reflect it and take no damage.
summer quail
yes
tacit crag
I will check my logs later tonight. I have a run from it.
lucid owl
does anyone have a weakaura to track how many keys you have done this week?
gilded pawn
try Google
dreamy hemlock
true was on private mb. will do another one and post in correct channel
deep sapphire
So how much dps increase does getting the 4 set give us?
modest condor
dont play 2p2p in m+
then just play old build but drop tenderize for OF i guess
yeah
2p2p kinda ass in m+
you want the cdr on OF
clever path
so, is augury more broken than sims let on? cause bloodmallet is showing rezan and cataclysmic trinkets are higher
modest condor
i mean
we're always linking the good pulls ofcourse
over the course of the night it seems to be doing about as much as it's simming for me
young swan
so, is augury more broken than sims let on? cause bloodmallet is showing rezan a...
bloodmallet has augury as second highest
modest condor
this is 1 night of prog http://puu.sh/JUWM8/6c618606cc.png
young swan
i suppose thats only at 496
clever path
bloodmallet has augury as second highest
i'm not killing M fyrakk, so rezan is better
modest condor
this is sim http://puu.sh/JUWMa/ed81f10902.png
young swan
i think augury's damage is reasonable considering how undergeared we still are relative to what we will be in bis
clever path
i think augury's damage is reasonable considering how undergeared we still are r...
makes sense then, just OP when we're undergeared then
young swan
like its definitely a great trinket, otherwise it wouldnt sim so well
but yeah, gear plays a very important role when it comes to trinket strength
clever path
like its definitely a great trinket, otherwise it wouldnt sim so well
Not saying it isn't, but it isn't something grab for if you have the other trinkets, since my guild gave me the signet trinket drop
and i also got the mirror trinket for until i get rezan trinket
fading bane
modest condor
augury is way better than rezan dude
clever path
augury is way better than rezan dude
again, not going for M fyrakk
modest condor
normal augury is better than rezan
even if it sims similar on st
it's so much better on multi target
modest condor
and all of m+ has aoe
fading bane
im in love with it
modest condor
it also has a weird interaction with the last boss in throne
where for some reason it crits for 11mil
when my strongest ability crit for 2mil
modest condor
huh
modest condor
yeah has to be
young swan
i mean maybe details is just bugged or something
modest condor
maybe i didnt have cooldowns for that pull
young swan
but when I checked i saw 3mil for OS
modest condor
oh yeah speaking of m+
im not excited about that increase on the hp on the atal add
the molten gold or whatever
young swan
yeah thats cringe
modest condor
guess we're just gonna go back to perma ccing them
young swan
just gonna be impossible to kill on tyr weeks
modest condor
adds dont scale with tyran anymore
modest condor
man imagine if the totem in brackenhide scaled with tyran
modest condor
im glad it doesnt seem like there's anything like that this season
the mc boss in throne has a totem but that one doesnt feel dangerous at all
young swan
yeah that one kinda just dies
quiet oak
about the rotation: its says on icyveins to go - reck -> OF -> avatar when of buff is gone. Why not Avatar+Reck -> OF when the buff expires?
Since avatar cast OF anyway
wintry sluice
To get OF on cooldown for set
mossy fox
because you'd waste OF cdr from your BT crits
quiet oak
oh, i get it. Ty
should i hold the first empowered BB for Avatar? (Dont know if they stack)
wanton mirage
U gonna get avatar from your OF
quiet oak
true. dumb question
wanton mirage
I ask alot of dumb questions too. So no worry.
warm lark
hasty tree
😂😂
tidal kindle
buoyant salmon
hey garm u smell bad
tulip swallow
olive radish
Hey guys first time coming back to warrior since S1 has a lot changed with fury?
clever path
Hey guys first time coming back to warrior since S1 has a lot changed with fury?
we're now running an annihalator build
olive radish
What does the rotation look like?
kindred grail
Yo guys anyone know if Crest exchange works just got the achievement but i can't find where to convert them
clever path
Yo guys anyone know if Crest exchange works just got the achievement but i can't...
go to vaskarn in the main emerald dream base
kindred grail
I did and i can only exchange down and not up
Got this achi
i wonder if it's time locked
dull sierra
are you capped on wyrm crests>
clever path
trade up doesn't work if ur capped?
empty grove
is it viable to swap T30 4pc to T31 2pc and T30 2pc? do we switch to odyns fury and annhailitor or do we have to wait till 4set
warm crag
golden dock
so is fury just always better than arms or-
because it seems like they just have way better damage & survivability. and they get extra stats from weapons
clever path
is it viable to swap T30 4pc to T31 2pc and T30 2pc? do we switch to odyns fury ...
sim
compact knot
so is fury just always better than arms or-
its kinda other way around usually
atleast s1 and s2 in raid
golden dock
really?
dark sky
golden dock
does fury not compete in execute with arms at all?
clever path
not at all
compact knot
it does with tier set
compact knot
furys is very good now
clever path
its better but not arms level
olive wraith
Ye
golden dock
what does tier do to buff execute?
compact knot
big bloodbath
olive wraith
Bigger bloodthirst damage
compact knot
stacks with 2 vc
clever path
vicious contempt
olive wraith
haughty token
how is the secondary stat embellishment?
compact knot
idk bad compared to vers wrists though
compact knot
you can kinda do both with vers wrists
olive wraith
Ya I don’t bother with making separate sets
clever path
so is fury just always better than arms or-
id say theyre really close
on some bosses id play arms over fury such as council
apart from council tho
you can play whatever
golden dock
really? I thought that fury was better in aoe?
golden dock
ah. that's fair
golden dock
I dunno, I guess I just usually see RWF guilds using fury and most people I play with choose fury
compact knot
i got a 99 parse on it with 10 ilvl higher as fury, was still 10k less than my arms one that was a 93 parse
clever path
I dunno, I guess I just usually see RWF guilds using fury and most people I play...
fury is just more popular
rwf have their own reasons
i dont find tom arms that fun to play either but its worth it for that execute phase
compact knot
arms in m+ is going to fuck though, so ready for 4p and loads of damage
clever path
idk about 4p fury in m+