#fury
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if i played dk i would tank keys, bdk is so fun
Prot is fun too tbf
Big aoe dam
But its easy to fell asleep playing it
When you dont do hard pulls
And there is a lot of casters this pool
No grip, no sigil, no typhoon
You just stand there, seeing them cast in sanguine
i hate tanking farm keys
it is the most piss boring shit in wow
I just Hate tanking, but tanking without having to worry about dying is even more boring
Echo bringing in second warrior 
MYTHIC TN WE HYPED BOIS
This boss ain't dyin today, when's the last time we went into a week 2 with 2 bosses left on all the top teams O.O
Prolly same as last season, Sophic in main hand, Wafting offhand
I run both
b-b-but this tier is too easy!!! instant dollars killed 6 bosses without spending 3 days doing splits!!!!
Stupid question, does the Shadowflame proc embelishment still stack ?
Or should I instead have only one and switch for another embellishment
Still works the same
double sfp is numerically better in st, and vers bracers sfp in mt
ok ok
bracers offer a tiny bit of defensive value
I don't optimize for the Raid but for MM+
Then I would craft bracers
my issue is that currently I've looted some good new boots / belt which hold my crafted embelishments
I've got 447 items with sfp OR a 460 boots, 467 belt
Sim it
I wonder if the extra STR will offset the loss of 1 SFP
robot knows answer
Is there a way to see what stance I used during the bossfight? Berserker Stance is not listed under buffs for some reason
Sometimes it doesn't say because you never changed during combat it seems
So it only shows up, if I change the stance during combat?
sometimes it seems this way
raidbots suggested to swap my 447 boots for 467 w/o embellishment
yep im running 1 embellishment until next week for that reason
483 boots > 447 embellishment
im doing some mid keys while learning fury, is this decent overall dps? healer and tank were like 440 ilvl im 460
I had to replace the most important embellishment, flavor pocket 😦
117k at 460 definitely needs some work
im following the prio of ramp>bb>execute>slam>whirlwind and doing the wowhead burst combo opener
always whirlwind every 5gcd etc
Do you have the 2p/4p of the new season
2p new season, 0p old season
Damn as soon as I get 2P I'll be a shit. I need to learn the ropes!
for fury it doesnt matter if the pull is 5 or 10 mobs right? so wasnt a pull issue then
honestly it's hard to judge damage when you just plain need more gear
kind of pointless to try, just keep playing and acquire 4pc
aight!
Ngl after having seen 2p in action, I can't recommend using annihilator in M+ over the s2 build
Also, your weapon is the most important part to upgrade
Even if you have 2p
play arms immediately or i will google google
Yeah I will 100% keep playing arms in keys
googling google
aah
s3 is like being in the upside down for warrior
i got 454 450 weps
no
i will do twice your damage per millisecond
The problem with 2p is that you give up AM and consistent CDs for each pack for more spaced out CDs that are stronger, but the value you gained in your 1:30 window doesn't make up for the 30~ sec CDs you otherwise had with AM
4p sort of fixes that with giving OF CDR
But until 4p it just looks kinda balls
You can probably come up with a s2 talent tree with OF where it works out
but don't know how that'd perform
instead of onslaught or smthing
sounds like aids
me fury
I haven't tried 2p yet in keys because it just looks way too jank
So I can't speak from personal experience
But my cowarrior who used it did not seem to have the best of times
well
I'm still t30 gaming but playing arms
im still doing more dps than i did as arms, so there's that
I'm so mastery poor, I can't even play fury if I want to rn lol
I had similar overalls with 20 more ilvls on the tier pieces
also i got a signet of the last elder from my heroic raid so i gotta go fury 😄
but I have 4p now
imagining with you banezi
I was blessed by the loot council
lets hold hands and imagine
i have 2(3) P because i have normal omnitoken in my bags 
🤝
(also splits)
🤝
imagine having 4p
imagine not pugging and getting stacked by pure RNG
I have aotc token, heroic gloves and a couple items I can catalyze, just waiting to see what vault santa and heroic reclear brings me
I am too impatient
hey i got 6/9 hc in 2 hrs by pugging
so I already catalysed
imagine having a guild that gives everyone 2p first, before they even start handing out 4p, and no splits
lol
I have a socketed helm to catalyze but it's normal track so I am hoping to get something else
fair is fair 
I also have some legs with speed on them
i catalysed my conquest gloves cuz im a PVP andy at heart 
wtf benzai...
NO GIMME LOOT AND NO ONE ELSE
my normal track piece is
helm
im the degen sticking with warrior
the real tertiary
wait u can proc that on tier gear
unbelievable....

if the item before catalysing had it yes
rng edging me so much on my pug kills on heroic, rolled a 98 and lost to a 99 on the omnitoken, rolled a 96 and lost to a 97 on tswift neck, same shit with smolderon trinket
at least i got the smolderon lfr weapon mog
I immediately realised my mistake after I confirmed the catalyst
thats a very big W
Behold my gigachad bracers actual ilvl probably 480
it's owari
I have 1 hero track piece
you can proc it when you use a tier token
idk maybe I just need to have someone hold my hand next expac to make sure I don't catalyse the wrong piece
just not the omnitoken
i got 2 hero track rings and one of them is my bis bis 
I got this
Dont flame me for upgrading please i wanted to get a high ilvl item to brag with
flaming you for upgrading that
upgrade a trinket at least you demon
no peeper
I'm ready to let tier rip
u want me to upgrade my coiled serpent idol hero 2/6? i can barely tell it does dmg
W
483 weapon though when I have a 476 weapon
L on my part
I haven't upgraded it yet lol
2.7% 
19 gives 470
Yeah is from 18
if it's not on hero track somehow your life is over
is execute just filler when everthing is on CD or is there another reason to pres it
I bedge
If it’s not myth track, your life is over
you mean except for the dopamine hit?
ye
It's like
BB > Ramp > Exe > BT > Slam > WW
Or something
might have to change BT and Exe around
but pretty sure you can also make a case for what your rage is at
haven't looked into it much either
u need a maxroll peeper before u can look into that
since I'm not a 4p gamer it's simply just a thing that future me has to deal with
It's joever
Without Annihilator though
You sorta just press it on CD
Assuming you wont rage cap
I dont know whether to put exe in a spliff as a CD filler or its higher prio
but isnt myth track only like 6 ivll higher
thats like missing 1 gcd out of 100
18 gives mythic track or no?
in vault yes
doing 18s is fine, just a few extra aspects to get maxxed
Yeah I was rocking a 447 so I didn't care what ilvl it was tbh lol but was thinking 18s were good
If you just want to be efficient it's 17/19 since 18 (apart from vault) just makes the key a bit slower
I'm gonna get a signet brand in vault too
but doesn't increase the loot ilvl
so 18/19 drops myth track or
18-20 is myth track from the vault
oh
you can only get hero track from the actual loot in dungeons
fuck guess I gotta to 18s 
would be insane if you could get mythic track from dungeon loot
Yeah I was hoping it was no lol
You'd see people with 489 weapons before entering mythic
The amount of keys I’ve done is depressing to look back on lmao. I think I’m at like 60 over 70, 20 over 20s 🤦♂️
Better get a nice vault tm!
i have 476 and 450 
I think I'm mid 20s
THEN I natty looted another gorehowl on my 2nd rise
tell a lie
I've done like 30
just loot the gear quickly or?
i've done 19 keys
Just loot it
i got bis dungeon trinks on champ track in 2 runs each 
never farming shit again
(i've stuck to low keys cause Im bad)
Old gorehowl actually visual bis because you hold it a bit further down the shaft
Honestly even champ track goes pretty high ilvl
476?
for what
sword
Myth raider?
if you mean the axe it's rise
Axe?
yes axe
Yeah rise
bro ive done it 22 times and it nevere dropped i thought im doing something wrong
Im 367 + 450 
22 rises lol wtf
I've not done a single key more than 3 times
at that point I'd just do another key
No joke
wait I've done DHT 4
Ye I only did keys max 3 times
bro im losing so much hope
every other key 3
it doesnt drop
And got almost no loot
I did 60 runs in 1 week of DoS in season 3 on my prot paladin
I got mine from like 3rd vault
Rise second boss trash
theres like 2 bad packs
Idk which is which
Err fall second boss trash
But 2nd half doti is ass
fall is first half rise is 2nd
maybe on high keys cause I don't do those 
Lol
highest I did was a 16
They kinda fucked on 18 even
ez keys only
Rise 2nd boss trash also fucks big time
Yeah whatever the spinning section boss guy is
His trash
Is buck wild
Big reflects tho
From the moments
Yeah that one is easy comparatively
The one where you have to go around the circle is wild
No AD?
This season there is so much to kick, it feels like barely any classes can handle kicks/stuns in m+ atm
Vdh or bust
none of my friends had a 16 AD for me to do on my druid yet
Rip
And the dragons and little shitter trash on third boss
druid kinda fucks tho, 437 druid vs 460's
If you do double dragons lol it’s wild
Pulsing slime blobs
Love how you have to have a specific class to even be able to handle kicks/stuns
Xdd
Let them cast and say you don’t have anything
Im looking forward to not doing keys on warr
I said heard you loud and clear I won’t touch them
I have been longer in queue on warr than I have been in keys
Guildies brought me into a weekly 20 no leaver key to get me a 20 vault 
Kinda same
We have like 3-4 key groups going regularly
But sometimes people ask for mates in guildchat and I jump onto that instantly
Work gang
Work from home rn
Fury feels pretty bad with the new 4p and talents tbh, thoughts ?
In meeting actually
Tell them I said hi
Nice lol
I can’t do my job from home unfortunately
Same
Anyone tried nightmare egg shell?
tried it on a dummy for like 5m, super underwhelming
Yep
ok ty
if you have hourglass just run that instead
It exists, has main stat
Big time
the rest of the trinkets are ok/good
crab feels pretty good
You don’t have one yet?
i'm part of the eggshell gang
forgot about crab
feels bad
does not look amazing
Im rocking 447 oce and hero signet brand
had 50% uptime last run i did, 40 in another. not horrible but not great either
yee eggshell uptime big garbage
That seems decent. My eggshell is always 17-19% uptime after a key.
definetely prefer hourglass over crab tho, hourglass and might feels pretty good in m+
tank left my +8 part way through it seems
rolled
hey guys...what is more important when choosing an item: level? attribute (strength, stamina, armor)? enhancements (critical strike, haste, versatility, nastery etc) what should I look for first? which is more important?
ilvl
ilvl
Probably ilvl since that has high strength which is the most impactful stat, however some trinkets can be really good despite having a lower ilvl.
Counterweight definitely doesn’t suck imo
I had counterweight equipped when Pips friendship badge dropped, and because counterweight does such little dmg, they prioritised me on the Pips trinket as it was a huge upgrade
So thank you counterweight. You’re the best. 🙏
Pip's is sitll just ok right? it's fine but not exciting?
YUP
thx guys
happend to me 3 times today in a row, +15, +14 and +12 key. just imagine them looting the worst possible item in their next 10 runs
Haha
Anyone have experience with the "Branch of the Tormented Ancient"-Trinket? is it me or is it buggy sometimes?
guys if i have recklesness ready but OF or AVA + DR is on 15 sec cd do i wait or just send it ?
or what is the max time one should wait for the CDs to align ?
@oblique trail is fury meta for large damage?
I've been saving, they are all the same CD so they shouldn't get out of whack by too much. No more AM so I think making sure they all line up is better.
was this better?
❤️
should be pinned
Fury is meta for being in the bin

Does anyone have an explanation of why Wowhead recommends Mastery = Vers. > Haste this season?
🤣🤣
there is a point where mastery and haste start losing value, when at that point we want more versa
as the season goes on and we have more stats, it's easier to reach those diminishing returns
but as always you need to sim your own character
for the most optimal stats with your gear
guys why is the arms channel so much more boring than the fury channel
Because fury is for zoomers and arms for boomers
So if I were to craft my cloak right now, would I go for Mastery and Haste still?
Or just sim I guess
more mental illness in fury chat
coz the fury channel is basically the "off topic" channel. so much weird shit in here
i keep trying to bring my mental illness over there
sim it and you can always recraft to change stats later, it will never be a HUGE difference as cloaks dont have too many secondaries
actually true
Thanks for the answer, mate, appreciate
np
Fury fuck good
too many words for a fury warrior
Furry warrior
"always rage starved" ughh about that
Quick question for you fury gamers, do you want to always press bloodbath after rampage? Even if you have enough rage for rampage?
yes
to be fair this is a 6 year old image
Bb > ramp
ye ik mr swe
And also, do you want to press bloodbath if execute is available?
BB>Execute>bt
I’m arms
real
but where do i fit heroic leap into the rotation?
@hardy shuttle BB>RAMPAGE>EXECUTE>BT right?
with the new T31, are we still using Recklessness and Avatar together?
Yeah
most masculine brit
alright, thanks
arms owns
in aoe spend 4 ww stacks from of before avatar
and in st wait 3 seconds before you avatar
unless shit is gonna die in a few globals (low keys, some bosses) then just spam of+avatar
and reck on pull
💪
When you accidentally press rampage at 80 rage and hit an open global, but your add requires a button to be pressed
thank you my fury friend ❤️
Guys this is my m+ healer, its a lost key for sure
they are going to be the best healer you've ever played with I guarantee it
is that like always the case? what if we overcap rage?
That’s clearly a dps
Hesitant to spend crests on upgrades / use spark. What're folks here doing?
ye they swapped roles before pull xD
prob bb then rampage if you have the buff
idk, I just came here for answeres
Hahahah i am saving that
This shit makes my skin crawl
A twiumphant woaw
just spend on stuff you arent likely to replace, and dont spend on stuff below the level you are comfortably farming (i.e. dont use crests on a 463 champion item if you are comfortably farming 470 items from +19 keys)
I used enchanted wyrms crest from renown 20/fyrakk on versa wrists and sent crests on shoulders and chest tier pieces (up to 483)
wtf i love arms warriors now
stop plz lord
you're right to be a bit hesitant but dont be too scared and end up not spending them at all
Imagine killing fyrakk or being renown 20
fyrakk is easy tho
I bet my guild kills fyrakk tonight without me, I’m going to the gym instead of raiding
killing fyrakk is way easier than r20
We clapped him wednesday
I killed heroic fyrakk but i havent completed the main story line yet so i didnt get my enchanted wyrm crest...
well and tuesday
I killed him kn NM on weds
same lol
I hadn’t done the quest
I am holding crests till next week after my first vault and 2nd raid. Then I minimise the chance towaste anything 
🤓
Appreciate the insight, thanks!
this is what I'm doing
it's also fine to save until your vault, like funkykitty said
Im like
renown 16 D:
but I am impatient and have problems
holy moly 14 renown
I think at this point I will probably wait and see vault then just craft bracers / send crests on a wep and whatever I intend on catalyzing
HAHAH
bro I ain't even dealing with that shit lol
yeah at this point go vault, we were doing first few bosses mythic last night so I said fuck it and upgraded some stuff before we started
turns out first 3 are a cakewalk
and probably next 2 arent far behind
They won’t go mythic without their AP buff surely 
We had an average ilvl of like idk, somewhere in the 450s and only 1 guild had killed igira so that shit was not a cakewalk
it folded us
456.8 average ilvl
it ain't enough, we checked
where is the 463 Kazzak neck sitting at, is it worthless?
the fire dmg procc is critting likr crazy for over 1k on every autoattack.
Yeah lol
That helps haha
so we had 3 days of everyone spamming m+
Yeah we got to 54% and it was a struggle bro
there's 2 columns
So sad, my group barely had any tier and the ones that got were the dh, fml
This is our gnarlroot kill lol
yeah our thursday hc looked like this, everyone 450-455 no tier
I only got 1 tier from pugging heroic, I guess second and 3rd will be 2k io and catalyst.
then on sunday everyone came juiced as fuck lmao
Yeah we didn't do splits, just sent it with 30 on normal and heroic
I think igira and volcoross with get vaporised when you go back to them next week
We had like 2-3 tier drops for zenith
snake is easier than igira
We should fair MUCH better next week I think
Obviously
I expect blizzard to do some tuning on reset
I'm keen to find out if there'll be much class balance this week
I'm not, I'm more interested in warrior balance 
Only warrior gang
would be trolling to bring two
Yeah I was gonna say, there ain't room for 2
And our 2nd one is not remotely comparable
I like having another warrior bro in raid 
I would too
I like having another person playing the same class as me
But this dude ain't even in skyhold, he is so clueless
Cause they’re generally better than me, and they teach me how to play better
Like, if you are revvez or something you don't need to be here to learn so much... but if you're bad or have things you could improve on at all, you're really doing yourself a disservice by not being here
ignorance is bliss
Man its kinda wild. Most of last tier he would message me every single raid night, telling me if he had xyz gear or computer or stars aligned etc he would be beating me
Like completely unprovoked
Lmao
We had a warrior who I chilled with in S1, and I always said I was so bad at arms and he was good, but then one time I went arms and beat him 😬 awkward
I played arms this week for the first time and it was big ugly, the gap between us
ur whole team had 4pc going into mythic??

literally impossible to have a full myth raid with 4p t31
i was like HUH
Naw you just didn't see the last column because it was empty lmao
my arms are solid 💪
arms 
We had somebody dc on nymue so we pulled without them... clapped it and they got back on
missed aotc because of it lol
the token anyhow
just tell him to push 2k week 1 ez
he did
nice
Majority of our team did
1650 gang
I didnt even think about ilvl when buying with my tier token from aotc
but I bought chest
I think I'm one of two people in my guidl that pushed that far
Only zenith dropped for my raid team on normal and heroic outside of 2 bosses
got 2 piece and then grinded 2k for 4 piece w catalyst
my chest now has speed on it

im waiting for my vault with my catalyst charge
eb only on 10?
im not good enough to do high keys

said this last night but shockwave really do be making keys as fury feel a lot better
especially with this double dh meta

Im only interested in 2k for the token
cause im not gonna get aotc this week
but im not gonna get 2k either
it's just atal trinket into +20 weeklies for the rest of the season 
boo stupid filter preventing my message
did aotc first week last tier
for the first time
my guild is doing 4 night raid week to get aotc week 1
we're doing an optional 3rd night tonight to get aotc but Im going to the gym
cause I didnt go at all last week
We don't use that word enough
we're doing 5 but we only "needed" 3 for nm full clear and heroic full clear
oh yeah we're usually a 6 hour a week guild but the last 2 have been optional for rest of heroic clear
today and tomorrow is myth prog
NA moment
ye i was as well, my scottish friends use it as a term of endearment
I support this word
(im not raiding until sunday after today)
a few times I've said it non-chalontly and an american has been very shocked
we dont say it as much as the aussies but it's a very chill word
ye say it in europe or australia no one gives a shit, america tho oh boi
I use it all the time
fall is so much easier than rise omg
It is nice to have a word that has such power though
wtf the #1 io person on my server alraedy has a 24 ad timed
I didn't even know americans go wild over that
I wish we had a word with power tbh
the only ones that have power are the actual gross ones
Yeah see, it ain't all bad that it's so underutilized
I know one that has power basically everywhere
.
but I am not gonna say it in here
Ope
What's fun about what you just said, is everyone is going to have their own word that comes in their head
and it isn't necessarily the same for everyone lol
ye it's insane how much easier it is, like we fukd up bad and still +2d an 18
there's a 2 key difference between rise and fall on highest completed
I've only done rise twice and they were both 19s and I got axe both of them lol
natty looted both times
I have smolderon normal weapon and ash still

i need a weapon so bad
I have smolderon heroic wep
im down bad on weap
463 gorehowl and ash still for me
im at 463 nm smolderon
- 450 ashk in oh
arms warr in my guild is 471 ilvl overall equipped already
483 gorehowl with avoidance

just loot gear
I'm like 464 equipped but I'm in t30
I have 8 hero track trinkets
im 4p t30 at 459
I'm not good enough to loot the right gear
483 weap off first boss in raid and random throne of tides weapon
im 2/2 462 
help
Yeah only bad thing about me having the weps I do is that other people don't so they're gonna get gnarlroot before me
rip
a 483 weapon for me rn is a 10k upgrade 😭
at least I got 3 belts and 2 more rings I don't need
our m gnarlroot weapon dropped with avoidance but i lost the roll rip
but my heroic larodar ring is huge
Yall be rolling?
gottem
We do a loot council with 4 officers and 3 random raiders
you roll at beginning of week to be on loot council
ya it was the same ilvl increase for me or our ret pally
we’re not like super intense on loot
if it’s a giga upgrade it goes to that person
if it’s similar we just roll
Yeah we aren't intense, just have a pretty good system
If you kill bosses though everyone gets geared either way
ya
so it’s nbd
and then tier accordingly to who has it and whose is good
yea
Yeah we have a readycheck.io sheet where you fill out your loot sheet and submit a droptimizer
puts it all in black and white
makes it easy
although somehow i got the first zenith tier over our rogue lolol
we just trust the numbers people put which isnt always the best idea 
it’s an honor system!!!
enhancement shamans having suspiciously good tier sets every tier
I will sim with season 2 gear in random slots to make my droptimiser look better
so to play fury properly I need to have reck and avatar on separate binds, right?
with the new tier set ye
yeah i would
it was fine with old one to bind them
lol we had somebody last tier that would be simming in wrong spec and everything to do this
but "properly" has diff definitions ig
They are no longer with us
I have no remorse
Or people that never update their sims
i like that wowaudit doesn’t average if u play two specs now for the dps numbers it was kinda troll how it was before
so everything is always giga
I’ve been filling a DPS spot in keys, normally a prot so I control where mobs move and they’re always on me…
But swinging into fury, I feel like I am constantly missing rampages because I’m out of range, even when I’m sitting in the mobs. Any thoughts on how I can stop plebbing?
holy fuck, the death sentence is a bit steep dont you think?
welcome to short arms

you should not be missing uptime because of short arms
just learn be proactive with your movement, learn charge min range etc
we’re like lil t rexes
I'm not lol... but he isn't used to being melee dps and short arms certainly makes it more difficult
if tank pops steed and starts running, run with them
can I miss uptime for being self conscious?
if shit is in sanguine be prepared for knockbacks to come
use leap/charge whenever you need to instead of just running towards mobs that are moving/out of range
I recorded a few yesterday I plan on watching later. Because man I swear I’m standing in them, and still not getting my cast off. Driving me nutty.
make sure your plater profile is showing your target clearly too, maybe you are targetting something behind you without realising
since we use reck and odyns on opener before opener should i use mirror trinket before instead of macroing to avatar?
But looking at logs I’m missing a shite load of uptime on that bad boy.
(or whatever nameplates you use)
Especially charge if you see a ground effect between you and the target
it will never go wrong
probably safe to just stick it with reck
You have a good plater? Cause I really need a new one
That might be the play.
quazii plater pretty goated
I use a version of naowhs from like 2 years ago that I've changed a bunch of shit in
I've heard quazii's is good
and free maybe? idk
sometimes in big packs i am not looking in the right direction of my target judgement free zone only
Quazii’s has great utility, I just hate the look lol
am i crazy or is this seasons class balance some of the worst its ever been
I use whichever one crit is using. Does quazis show the hp breakpoints for execute?
it's not too hard to fuck around in plater and change how it looks
I've been pretty even with a lot of specs so far
What level m+ is it for 2k for both weeks combined. Like all 15s? Can’t remember and pugging is a nightmare for anything above 15 as a warrior at the moment with little free time
Except havoc
Think 15 across the board
It's like half 20s and 19s this week
Where can I find it
google quazii plater
Thank you, thought it was. Think I did some 16’s last season first week and 13’s the other
Thank you
yw. You can even just highlight text, right click and search with google
if on a computer
ez mode
we thinking ocean and augry as bis for M+?
There’s a lot of good trinks
I'm thinking of swapping ocean for brand on tyran weeks
but always having augury in 2nd slot
Depending on the dungeon I wouldn't
and what kind of tnak you play with
if you drop stacks brand is gg
Rezans feels good too
yeah I have that rn
along with coiled and hourglass
had mirrior but I think that trinket is garbo so gave it to my bm guildie
mirror feels pretty bonkers too but 3 minutes is ages
I only live in 20 second windows
ye i mean branch is literally just better beacon, can't wait to get it
also idk if this is a bug or intended but if you're on second to last boss of raid try using the odyns fury/ravager avatar to get you out of root
not a bug
if you pop actual avatar and then try to do the other to break i'm assuming the buff doesn't overide
yeah thats what i'm gonna start doing
So if you decide to pop it a bit before Roots your hardcast Ava will still be fine (assuming popping actual Avatar doesn't clear root if you already have it)
hold actual avatar for roots
and then it should rotate fast enough for me to break everytime
Same for the mythic plus affix that roots you
Entangled counts as a root?
its a snare
Til I thought it was just a slow
Hello, I consider myself as newbie to the game and class. I was wondering if there is a use case of Gholak, the Final Conflagration, one handed axe from Fyrakk for a fury warrior.
Fury uses 2 handers for maximum damage output
It's recommend to be in arms lootspec to get more of those
You’d need much higher ilvl one handers to compete with titans grip
for topend no.
If you play casual only, like lfr/normal raids, you can potentially play 1h fury if you like it.
Especially with the legendary axe in the horizon 2h will be ahead as usual
I guess this also has nothing to do with legendary 2h axe that will be available later in the season
Is it bis for prot? Could always pivot too
holy shit, new 2p is so tragic, I lose like 19k dps compared to old t30 4p with old talents 
or im doing something wrong with sim? 🤔
Same here
yeah you're definitely doing something wrong if you drop 19k dps from swapping tierset
I think he meant also swapping the build?
I also swapped to new talents https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6f7rS3RYWwUvGSxLsQ3Rx1
T31 for m+ build, compared to ~130k with T30 build
I'm in the exact same situation, so yeah, confused..
Oh shit i forgot to swap talents there... hold up
does anyone else love when we don't have massive on-use trinkets? like it's big damage, but any time you gotta hold feels like torture, signet brand and rezan's eye are both at the top for ST. Idk, it just seems like they would be better unless you lust at the beginning of the fight for maximum damage
after changing talents, 118,3k DPS still low (I changed sim report)
what was your sim with the old tierset?
~130k
can you show the talents you swapped to?
oh i see another one
you're still using berserker's torment
i dont even have the new tierset yet 
that's big for damage, yeah
you could have just copied the m+ build from wowhead lol
Avatar with every OF is gonna be a big increase with the 2P especially
Still worse than t30
whats the ingame command to get the string for raidbots?
/simc
are you comparing with the t30 m+ build?
it can be that 2p2p sims lower than t30 4p based on secondaries, but a 5k dps loss is a bit high
my first 3 item drops this patch were on tier slots...
Yes, exactly
that might be cuz i have high haste from old build; ~4,6k (32%)
T30 M+: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uez6NrU1xnu8Dty8ZGwrWG
T31 M+ (only new 2pc): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6f7rS3RYWwUvGSxLsQ3Rx1
the 4p is what makes it viable in m+
that's not that high
kinda like a small AM
oh right i know what it is
the m+ build doesnt use bloodcraze
so yeah dps numbers make sense when taking that into account
but yeah what lol said as well
2p2p kinda ass in m+ without the cdr on OF
were juiced
kms
real juice
you got 4set?
yup
augury is kinda cracked
nerfs inc
is it actually better on aoe?
im coping and seething btw
its doing like 6% of my overall
in Upper
which has very small pulls
one some pulls it does 10% of my dmg
Gnarlroot mythic it was 10% of my dmg to lashers
i dont understand how that trinket works man
anyone tried augury as arms?
it has a pretty low cap but then it says it increases with more crits
but what does that mean
like i've had single procs do like 1mil damage
maybe it just cranks if u crit a buffed BT hit?
for like 400k
i dont know
it does dmg tho
Augury makes no sense
yeah it does damage
Maybe the augury procs can crit themselves as well
Idk I don’t have it
last 3 keys with augury
when would you say that a higher ilvl offhand weapon outperforms 450 ashkandur?
when it sims higher
i got nhc augury, its between 6,1% and 10,5% of my overall, on some lucky bosses (in m+) even 25% of my dmg
yeah rezan does fuck all on aoe
augury literally triple ... what
outlaw rogues blade flurry is just a super powered fury whirlwind effect
Hey guys how come stat prio has changed this season? Is there a haste DR?
yeah there's a haste breakpoint
what is it?
All secondaries have a dr
where basically ur wasting secondary allocation by dumping more and more into haste
u want to diversify a little bit its diff for everyone so sim ur shit
But that isn't why
as in what number
but prob 25%-35%
let me check my dungeons from last night
kk I'm 39 atm I should probably fix that
wild
Don't worry about that, just sim your shit
yh I have been just good to know so I'm not focusing haste gear
ye
sim is god to this discord
Bro I don't know that I can even go fury next week lol I have negative mastery
Knowing what it is won't change anything, Infact it would just cause you to second guess what your sims say
sim is god to dps players that care about optimisation in world of warcraft*
Illegal
oh damn that looks spammy
worth noting that my gear is significantly worse than d2's
Augery slaps
help im stuck in waycrest + black rook hold pingpong, my key keeps swapping between them xD
what would you guys take from a maxed vault, weapon, trinket or catalyzable tier piece?
weapon every time
depends
My only thing is gnarlroot will drop a maxed weapon, while rezan eye maxed out is only from vault
if it's might of the ocean i would take that
that sword from smolderon is a cool transmog piece
yo, new fury warr here. Just got a one handed wep from a dungeon (with fury loot spec), but we should awlays use 2-hand right?
How is fury looking in high keys atm? Are we pretty mid?
yes
go arms loot spec
Go Arms spec
aah fuck, ty
isnt outlaw and havoc like the top 2 melee dps for keys in terms of dps?
unless you go prot as well, no point really
They're top 2 melee
havoc is gigabusted atm
i dont like to raid so i dont know anything about who is the best at raiding
i'm just happy i'm top 5 in my group, can't deal with two rogues and a dh to save my life
unless you're pushing like RWF or top 100, just play what you're best is usually the best option
anyone know?
by i dont like to raid i meant i dont raid at all most seasons. although if the new legendary requires it and is super strong, i might feel forced to
yes mid
pretty mid indeed
The amount of hype they put on this lego, it better be worth it
well it's going to be 7 ilvls higher than the 2nd highest weapon, so that alone is huge. if you play a 2h str class you are going to want it
ashkaundar was a disappointment
I guess I missed the hype
does lego unlock after RWF?
Fury can still pump good in m+ but it's always the case of having to get 4set for it to be fun
most likely, nothing truly confirmed
it will likely unlock when ce is achieved in your region
so each group of servers, like NA or EU?
na is a region and eu is a region
?
if that 7 ilvl higher thing is true and doesnt require mythic fyrrak for that high of an ilvl than that would be something id go for but i cant pug a mythic fyrrak. and even if i could id quit in frustration before it happened
At this point I want Echo to win just for Max to shut the fuck up on Twitter and bitch and moan about everything
can you take rwf drama literally anywhere else man
such low hanging fruit
literally anywhere else



