fury

[clever path]

Bruh

[modest condor]

for now the goal is just to get everybody in the team CE

[balmy shore]

wake up u missed week 1 vault

[restive peak]

Ah true, I only got a few tiers left in me hardcore....wife wants to plan kids in the next 3-5 so

Gotta go ham sandwich til then xD

[modest condor]

you would ditch the homies for a baby?

smh

[restive peak]

xD

Wife sits on the couch while I eat and watch RWF, guess I owe her a year or two of dad duties

[clever belfry]

silence

[hardy flint]

quick question, Gorehowl drops from Upper doesnt it?

[modest condor]

yes

[hardy flint]

thank you

[winter shoal]

Which is upper? Fall?

[hardy flint]

Rise

[winter shoal]

Oh that one is despair

[red yew]

Skill diff tbf

[winter shoal]

Myth track gorehowl in vault on tuesday surely

[hardy flint]

Got a hero Ravencrest's Wrath but havent seen Gorehowl yet

[winter shoal]

I haven't even seen a weapon drop for someone else

I got a 463 veteran weapon from superbloom last week and been using it all week

No tier either gg

[urban drum]

QQ, why is vers such high prior this tier for fury? feels odd seeking this much. 30% vers is what optimial % is set on bloodmallet

[sage shadow]

Is the Atal'Dazar trinket better than Underrot's Vial? Been simming and it's saying it's worse

[hardy flint]

I imagine TOTT trink would replace Vial

[copper surge]

I think I have about 30 keys of brh, tot, rise and still on a veteran weapon

[red yew]

Don't look at Bloodmallet to optimize your character

Trust top gear and droptimizer

[urban drum]

its not just bloodmallet, fury bis list on WH has a ton of vers items, just asking what has caused the stat prio change

[red yew]

Simple answer is that vers was always good for fury + being this deep into the expansion means we have an abundance of secondary stats that all end up in DR which in turn increases the value of spreading your stats out as opposed to just stacking a certain 1 or 2

Most bis geared fury warriors were gemming/enchanting vers last tier

Just a good stat, especially when it sims equal to other stats since it also has a defensive benefit

[urban drum]

that makes sense, tysm

[vapid river]

is there a viable SMF build?

for raid

(Because my luck with 2h so far has been shit)

[olive wraith]

Are you arms loot spec

[vapid river]

yeah, won the tanking 1h by offspec rolls

[olive wraith]

How much ilvl upgrade is it

You need a huge ilvl diff for smf to be equal

[vapid river]

heroic ilvl vs 450

[olive wraith]

Not sure if there is a build for smf on wowhead

[vapid river]

didn't see one

I'll just stick with the 450s

[olive wraith]

Which tier are you running

Honestly I’d say that’s probs safer

[patent sinew]

ZZZZ anyone else suffering zero plate lewt? done raid full clear normal and heroic and only seen two plate drops 😂 and TWO plate wrists at that?! -.- only crafted slot pfft...

[clever path]

For sure this tier tbh

[olive wraith]

?

Not really lol

[clever path]

I mean viable, not good

Like playable

[olive wraith]

It’s still gonna be behind by a large amount

[clever path]

If we're ever gonna do a smf build, it's probably now lol

[olive wraith]

You’re probably right there lol

[patent sinew]

I mean feel free to smack around a training dummy or sim it once you've got a spec.. but.. i'd be highly supprised if smf even with higher weapons beats out your 450's

[olive wraith]

Of all the tiers this one might be the best smf one

[clever path]

Yeah 450 vs 470 is probably not worth using that spec

But you could sim it lol

Would be funny

[patent sinew]

• sim it for funzies =p

[olive wraith]

Maybe drop massacre/bloodborne

Not a whole lot of wiggle room

[stuck spindle]

apparently I have a priest who drops PI for me in execute range for raids, is it even worth it? compared to other better classes

[vapid river]

take the win?

[olive wraith]

lol right?

[clever path]

I guess if they drop blood borne, maybe they should use spear of bastion

[stuck spindle]

eeeh cba bois seems like a waste

[young swan]

tell the priest to give it to the closest sin rogue

[clever path]

I love getting P.I. I usually ask for it every time

But as Arms

[olive wraith]

Spear is still technically better st I’m pretty sure

[clever path]

As fury P.I. is a bit grief

[stuck spindle]

as arms I wouldnt mind, but as fury nah seems waste

[young swan]

its fine as fury

in execute

[clever path]

Yeah I main arms this season

If your fingers are extremely fast, yeah

I couldn't keep up with globals on fury with p.i. I think

[young swan]

can u keep up in lust?

[clever path]

Yes

[young swan]

so whats the problem

[clever path]

Oh well

[olive wraith]

[clever path]

Yeah

[young swan]

[clever path]

I didn't think that far

[young swan]

i hate warrior players

[median narwhal]

Done the whole raid, and got myself two items. A tmog scythe, and a toy heartstone.

[clever path]

But lust is extremely intense on fury tbf

[modest condor]

ok but what about lust and pi huh?

[clever path]

It's still really hard to keep up during lust

[modest condor]

bet you didnt think about that

[stuck spindle]

its fine, but the pi and lust combo fucks u up

[modest condor]

im joking

[young swan]

so true i actually didnt think about that

[modest condor]

lust already puts you over 100% haste

man

i wanna see lust + pi + everbloom trinket + eggshell on the last boss in lower doti

[clever path]

Going arms feels so nice in terms of pace

[stuck spindle]

mained frost dk in SL, and my gcds legit got griefed when I had pi + lust on me

[modest condor]

i wonder if we can reach 1k% haste

[olive wraith]

What about lust, time warp, pi, wft, drums

[modest condor]

dont forget primal rage

[olive wraith]

Oh right dergons

[modest condor]

primal rage is hunters lol

but yeah dragons too

and heroism

[red yew]

Make sure to have full haste corruptions too

[modest condor]

and triple overwhelming power

[red yew]

Ye and kill Urh to go past GCD cap

[olive wraith]

And you’re upwind

[vapid river]

95k vs 135 that answers that question

[modest condor]

i wonder what % you would be able to get with everbloom trinket + eggshell + double wafting

[clever path]

Do you think warriors should get lust?

Or not

[olive wraith]

The smf is 95k?

[vapid river]

Bring back banner

[vapid river]

Fucking abysmal using 476s

[modest condor]

i dont care lust is just another copium for people who want to get invited to m+

[olive wraith]

Lmao

[vapid river]

26ilvl jump and still shit

[olive wraith]

What talents did you swap

[red yew]

Give us lust but from one of the subspecs so that one spec doesn't have it

[vapid river]

Massacre and BB

[olive wraith]

I just want a better way to help with afflic, incorp

[modest condor]

if smf is that far behind you either messed something up or the apl isnt supporting whatever talent build you cooked up

[olive wraith]

Silm what do you drop for smf

[clever path]

The sad thing is I believe as warriors we are really strong for keys, but other people don't think that way

[modest condor]

probably slaughtering strikes or something idk

or massacre

or bloodborne

[olive wraith]

The st build doesn’t have ss

[modest condor]

couple of options

[clever path]

We have insane defensive toolkit, we are very strong for tyrannical keyd, etc.

[olive wraith]

Oh you don’t take the one below smf?

[modest condor]

sure you can

just drop another one of the three talents

idk i never looked into smf

[olive wraith]

You’re using the wowhead ST build originally?

Or can you just ss the build

[clever path]

Isn't the wowhead build assuming you have tier set?

[silent burrow]

I just got complained to, because I storm bolt them lol no joke.

[olive wraith]

Wait what

[silent burrow]

Dead serious

[olive wraith]

If they’re getting close I’ll bolt them too

Why wouldn’t you

[silent burrow]

I said I hear ya loud and clear, I won’t touch them lol

[olive wraith]

Zugzug

[silent burrow]

[olive wraith]

Here I am switching to prot

So I get invites

[tepid lily]

hello, hows my m+ build lookin?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nScTmfXFsxh17CUjMegM91

[modest condor]

looks like a pretty standard t30 m+ build to me

[olive wraith]

It’s a build of all time

[tepid lily]

pog

[subtle lagoon]

Why do you have wafting writ instead of devotion?

[clever path]

On offhand wafting is good

[tepid lily]

it told me it was better, lol

[clever path]

And on mainhand sophic

[tepid lily]

just simulating everything at this point

[subtle lagoon]

I meant wafting writ gives less haste than wafting devotion

[clever path]

Oh sorry misunderstood u lol

[tepid lily]

ooh, i thought you meant

yeah

haha

[subtle lagoon]

[clever path]

I thought u said devotion as a short term for sophic devotion lol

[tepid lily]

Lol I just found out writ is less than the devotion one

good to know

it seems like 0.3% more

[rigid stirrup]

smolderon h

not b

[dull sierra]

[rigid stirrup]

and no one was logging

I am now depressed

[modest condor]

sadge

[rigid stirrup]

and no brand for me

[compact knot]

where u doing the secret tech

[rigid stirrup]

what secret tech

[compact knot]

drop balls out far so you can get spear with the big dmg buff

[sly iris]

is it worth dropping your t30 4pc for 2/2 pc

[rigid stirrup]

oh yeah

I let them come into me

[compact knot]

big

[rigid stirrup]

and I get them as I'm spearing

I tried to get them early and then go in

[compact knot]

picked up a rank 4 parse doing that strat on smolder

such a fun boss

[rigid stirrup]

but I was high af and whenI sobered up I realzied how dumb taht is

let them come to you they say

[compact knot]

its a sim angle

it wasnt for me until i could fill a off piece with a better piece

[sly iris]

thanks

[compact knot]

i got leggings from normal and replaced my gloves and helm

ect

got the helm from atal dazar and the sim really liked that and put it about 3k higher then aberuss 4p

[snow edge]

How long does the Smolderon buff last in the intermission?

Didn't actually check when we cleared

[compact knot]

20 seconds

[snow edge]

Ah ok

[subtle lagoon]

Lariat sims better than shadowflame in single target for me, interesting.

[snow edge]

Potentially because you've got sockets atm; likely wouldn't with no sockets

[subtle lagoon]

Yep

[clever path]

anyone know where the setting in plater is to change opacity of nameplates in combat? For some reason, plater has started to make anything but my target really opaque while in combat.

[outer umbra]

ive been playing arms in keys with the new 4p but gave fury a try just a bit ago and it felt pretty fun, cds arent always up as often as before with the new build but it feels more impactful

[meager void]

gamers

anyone got a heroic smolderon kill warrior pov?

furry ofc

[compact knot]

uhhh

i can give a few tips

[meager void]

I'm having trouble lining up my sh

[compact knot]

right i see now

ok, so pop everything on pull besides pot

continue rotation towards intermission as normal, when intermission starts you hit boss a little then go to second ring just before knock back, you let it knock you back without picking up orbs, go back to boss, let the orbs come into you (pot when there is 30 seconds left on lust) then pop all cds when you have all 5 orbs

if you go past second ring you fall into lava and die, so dont go past second ring 👨‍🎓

first intermission there will be around 8-12 seconds left on spear, you could optimize it a little bit to get it lower but not much of a reason, second intermission its about 0-5 seconds left on spear, after that you dont need to drop them out far, just dont be in melee range as orbs can drop into boss

otherwise do boss normally

(this was done with 2p 2p and did 190k end dps)

idk about aberuss 4p or amirdrassil 4p, but amirdrassil probably the same

[meager void]

:chefkiss: thx

[compact knot]

np sir

it can be a bit risky, can be out of range of healers while dropping them off, just press IV when u leap back in or pot/hs

can rally to save yourself too, its not a bad spot to press rally anyways + you dont die

[woeful gorge]

i think rezans gleaming eye doesnt exist

[rare fjord]

dropped offa 18 with speed on it first time i entered

i think you were stacking bad luck protection and i ate it up

[rigid stirrup]

WAIT SOMEONE WAS LOGGING SMOLD

FURY STILL LIVES

I lost uptime because I was picking up some sets of buff at awk times

[compact knot]

I've done 23 total, 16 timed keys above or at 19, have gotten every item 2 or 3 times now besides the eye, ive gotten the ring 4 times with a socket twice

My luck is good but not good at the same time

Because now all I can get is terts or rezans eye

All 470 shit

[edgy widget]

I got eye like first key

can't get neck or rings to save my life though

[vast crystal]

how do i sim different runes?
and is vers flask still the best?

[unreal onyx]

In the advanced options

[compact knot]

Vers flask was never the best dps wise for fury, corrupting rage has always been better, you just lose so much more hp and dr running corrupting rage

What lolxd said btw

[merry night]

is fury better than arms lets be honest chat

[unreal onyx]

Flasks are also if even only a 1k dps diff

[merry night]

how crazy is the 4p/2p

[compact knot]

It does depend on what you want to do

Arms better in m+ and st raid as of right now, fury better burst aoe cleave.

Fury probably pulls ahead on st with more gear and tier.

[merry night]

that's what i was thinking, fury def slams in AoE still but it feels wonky with no 4p

[compact knot]

Arms 4p doesn't look bad in single target though for sure

That wasnt something I cared to test or look at even though I play arms alot

[unreal onyx]

Im playing t30 until I get 4p

Im only at 2 and one catalyst charge left

And the 2p I also only got bc of the aotc token

[south kayak]

when are we gonna be able to use 4p 4p

[clever path]

How would that even work?

[vast crystal]

and what do i type in

[golden yacht]

+++++++

[south kayak]

Im just joking lmao

[unreal onyx]

It’s a pre-selectable tab

[vast crystal]

yeah but was looking for what to type, but found it in an old post

[rigid stirrup]

20 Throne of tides

and we didn't time because no one lusted last 2 in gauntlet 😦

went from 1 death till then to 26 before final boss

[subtle lagoon]

Throne of tides is ass

[eternal sundial]

What a funny area im so glad all the adds respawn

Even if ur monk can Revival em off

[rigid stirrup]

the perfect rng on the heal absorb adds

[unreal onyx]

Good mechanic

[rigid stirrup]

literally all got deleted by spell reflect

[heady saffron]

byebye 405 puzzlebox :o

[rigid stirrup]

leggo

[flat river]

Heroic or normal?

[heady saffron]

just normie

[flat river]

Ah

Still good

Gz :D

[heady saffron]

thanks :)

[wary pewter]

Mornings guys decided to go with Fury this season just for a change. Can someone point me out on stat priorities and where to cap and what not to go over? pvp and pve thanks!

[red berry]

i cant get weapons to save my life

ive ran so many rises

[heady saffron]

450 atm tomorrow im gonna try to do some m+ :3

[red berry]

need legendary. now.

[eternal sundial]

PVE you just sim, pvp you go #pvp

[flat river]

Do you think the leggo weapon would boost our dps big?

[eternal sundial]

How you are supposed to guess that

[subtle lagoon]

Have to remember that it isn't a class specific lego like evokers, it's a 2 hander that dk and paladins are going to get as well. I can't see it being a huge game changer but this is blizzard we're talking about so anything could happen.

[flat river]

🤷‍♂️

[wary pewter]

👍

[edgy widget]

not entirely true - pre buff, Corrupting Rage wasn't really worth for Fury

post-buff, yeah, though interestingly they're pretty close to one another in the BiS profile

[eager wraith]

guys i respecced fury from arms and now i have like 8 dead keybinds, help

[edgy widget]

Think Fury has more unique binds tbh
Arms - MS, CS, OP, Slam, TC (don't need rend)
Fury - BT, RB, Ramp, Reck, Ons, Rav

same number as Arms with T31
Anni - BT, Ramp, Slam, Reck, OF

[flat sapphire]

I like the build we use for t31

Enjoying it a lot

[eager wraith]

rend for ST, sweeping strikes but ye. i dont pvp as fury so i dont have pvp abilities setup

[edgy widget]

There's no reason to use Rend when you can just TC, though SS is fair

[eager wraith]

Rend has more initial damage than TC

[edgy widget]

TC spends more rage - checkmate

[flat sapphire]

[eager wraith]

show me the sim on that brother

[edgy widget]

mother fucker I write the sims

[flat sapphire]

Lmaooo

[eager wraith]

did i stutter show me the sim i dont believe you

[hushed ocean]

wow, that escalated quickly

[edgy widget]

I can show you whatever I want on them

[sudden tusk]

just change the tclap value to 500%

and send it

[edgy widget]

you wanna see 1 million dps from a single Slam? xD

[sudden tusk]

lmao

[eager wraith]

1 million dps from hamstring

[flat sapphire]

I do

[split comet]

Why do the warrior guides have a lot of vers gear for bis from wowhead? Is it due to star drs?

I assumed haste mastery was king still

Something with the 4 piece?

[flat sapphire]

Are you looking at pvp stats?

They usually want a lot of vers I think

Not sure never pvpee

[empty grove]

LMFAOOOOO

[split comet]

I’m looking at the pve fury guide

[flat sapphire]

And no offense to wowhead I never use that

[split comet]

Ya I just sin myself

[flat sapphire]

Ne too

Me

[split comet]

But was curious as to why that’s the end bis list

Since it doesn’t make sense to me

[edgy widget]

yes, stat dr

we have a fuck lot of stats in Season 3

[edgy widget]

that's what you should do, but some people still like the idea of BiS lists so 🤷‍♂️

[hushed ocean]

cuz some guys who talk for 3 hours straight, third times a week, want to see them... thx wowhead i can copy/paste and don't even have a fuck to give.

[split comet]

Just helps with an idea of what dungeon items etc I should be targeting in terms of time spent

[muted star]

there's a sim for that too

[edgy widget]

for shits and giggles though, I'll do you one better - why don't you show me a sim - literally any Arms sim you got

[empty grove]

Is the augrey trinket from fyrak one of our bis or is the serpent idol bis because on two different pages its listed as a bis each along with the signet from smolderon

[split comet]

Sim urself

With them

[edgy widget]

Serpent Idol was pulling ahead before some changes, but they're both very high

[split comet]

I wonder if we should index more on crit if we get signet and fyrakk trinkets

But we lose value due to the tier set

Awk kinda

[eager wraith]

https://simtk.org/projects/das

[edgy widget]

well there's your problem

Arms =! Arm

you got the whole spec wrong, mate

[eager wraith]

aaah

[dry holly]

Arms is like that weird fighting game on the switch.

i don't recommend playing it tbh

[empty grove]

I hate how fury t31 is mastery vers

makes it harder if you wanna play arms on some fights

[subtle lagoon]

I personally never liked arms, I tried it during shadowlands for break the meta and I wanted to puke

[flat sapphire]

Easy don't fury just better

[empty grove]

arent they super close together?

[flat sapphire]

Yea I think so

Doesn't matter really what you play

[split comet]

I think just play what you want

[flat sapphire]

Exactly

[split comet]

And play it well that’s what matters more

Don’t die

[empty grove]

proabky fury

better in keys imo

[flat sapphire]

Easier to play

[edgy widget]

anyway, what you woulda seen if you weren't memein is this

notice that little highlighted line for Rend there only shows Periodic damage - the sim doesn't hard cast Rend at all, only TC

though to be fair, T31 only has to cast like... twice, because the set bonus keeps it up pretty naturally all on its own

Now if we were to look at T30, in which you actually do need to hard cast in order to maintain the debuff

the difference is more pronounced - with casting TC noticeably better than casting Rend

[flat river]

My message was deleted

[edgy widget]

it's rude to interrupt, I'm making a point here

[flat river]

Yes senpai

Im sowwy <3

[subtle lagoon]

🤓 👆

jk

[edgy widget]

Anyway, if anyone in T31 wants to keybind Rend just to press it once the whole fight, feel free... but it's kinda just wasted space on your keyboard

if you're regularly pressing Rend in T30, you're just wrong

[flat river]

Why are we talking about rend in fury chat

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/and-thats-the-bottom-line-because-i-said-so-thats-it-its-over-stone-cold-steve-austin-gif-15145535

[flat river]

:O

Archimtiros how do you know which build is the best

Like how do you create the builds

[subtle lagoon]

Arms is just better than fury

[flat river]

Is it just a gift?

[flat river]

Never cook again

[subtle lagoon]

Jokes on you I never cook, always get takeout.

[flat river]

Also thats bad

[edgy widget]

mostly just make it up as I go

[edgy widget]

trial and error

[eager wraith]

man +20 waycrest can suck a dik

[flat river]

Not only for your health but for your wallet

[edgy widget]

probably be a lot easier if you'd press TC

jus sayin

[flat river]

[eager wraith]

jokes on u im testing fury

[edgy widget]

jokes on you, you're testing in a +20 😬

[flat river]

XD

Hey arch

Is fury or arms stronger this season

[edgy widget]

eh, kinda up in the air

[iron portal]

I love this convo so much

[edgy widget]

Arms got nice sustained damage out of the rend buff, big SD procs, and constant WW spam

[eager wraith]

i've done 3 m+ dungeons so far today, guess how many of them the tank just sucked ass and left?
hint: 100% success rate of it happening so far

[edgy widget]

Fury is kinda wonky on OF timing sometime, but its got really strong priority damage, which is not inconsequential

[flat river]

If only they'd change it so its not just primary target

[subtle lagoon]

Funny how people called ww spam for fury in shadowlands boring in m+, but now they're jizzing over arms ww spam

[edgy widget]

I think you'll probably find more of the push players playing Arms for consistency, since you really don't want to deal with missed timings on CDs

[flat river]

I don't really push

I max out at 20's and heroic raid

[unreal onyx]

Sounds great, pugs will only take arms for 18s then

[edgy widget]

then it doesn't really matter what you play tbh

[next hatch]

Really? Just wait until BRH and ToT trash

[edgy widget]

I honestly can't remember the last time someone asked about spec in a M+ pug

[flat river]

You know, i actually enjoy ToT

[next hatch]

It's cool but last corridor is not fun esp with sanguine

[edgy widget]

Waycrest unironically is one of the easier dungeons this week

[flat river]

It is not indeed xD

[edgy widget]

not quite as free as Atal, but pretty easy

[subtle lagoon]

Talk about what's not good for health, it's this dungeon.

[eager wraith]

tell that to my pug tanks 😦

[next hatch]

I agree, i found brh and tot trash to be much harder

[unreal onyx]

Last big thing was aug, I saw people get declined/kicked for being devevoker and not aug in weeklies

[edgy widget]

BRH is pretty easy too imo, ToT trash is intense though

[flat river]

I love that this season there isn't a "meta"

[edgy widget]

that's cause the season just started lol

[unreal onyx]

DH is meta so far

[flat river]

Maybe

[eager wraith]

the meta is 2x dh +1 bloodlust dps

[edgy widget]

it's definitely already shaping though - just look at the number of DH, Rogue, Hunter vs other classes right now

[flat river]

Im leveling a rouge

Assassination is fun tbf

[edgy widget]

yeah I could see that for Aug, for obvious reasons, but that's about it

[sudden tusk]

too early to tell

[late night]

hello best stat for craft ? versa/mastery ?

[flat river]

Sim

[unreal onyx]

Is DH op or is it supposed to be insane in + and raid?

[edgy widget]

Gala Fall is surprisingly easy to time +20; as long as you don't shit the bed on the big open room trash before the 2nd boss, the timer is incredibly forgiving - friend and I pugged a casual 2 chest with like 8m to spare

[sudden tusk]

op

[flat river]

OP

[sudden tusk]

ret somehow the only reworked class that didnt go op lmao

[split comet]

Is the pip trinket really good

Doesn’t dim well for me

[flat river]

It's not the best

[split comet]

Compared to signet fyraak and the gnarleoot branch

[edgy widget]

it's ok, not amazing

[umbral ingot]

well its not our best raid trinket

[chrome plover]

it is one of the trinkets of all time

[sudden tusk]

pips would be good if you could pick the stats

[unreal onyx]

Gnarlroot branch sounds like it’s bad to play with the slow

[umbral ingot]

coil 🦍

[edgy widget]

its good in AoE if you know when to use it

[split comet]

Which is?

Cleave time?

[unreal onyx]

Does avatar remove the slow?

[next hatch]

Have a 19++ myself, invis potting last gauntlet seems too good to be true idk haha

[edgy widget]

which is "when you don't have to move" lmao

[split comet]

It did 1m for me in an aoe pull

[edgy widget]

also Warrior has leap/charge/intervene, should mitigate that a lot

[chrome plover]

should do

but idk

[unreal onyx]

If so, that’s big

[flat river]

I love charge

[split comet]

Also the trinket only hits shit around where you cast it

So if first boss in DHT charges away

You’re sad

So press it good

[edgy widget]

don't use it right before the charge, lol like c'mon

[split comet]

And press it hard

[edgy widget]

that falls under "know when to use it"

[split comet]

I know just for others who don’t have it yet

[unreal onyx]

I don’t want it either way

Other better options out there with no real downside

[edgy widget]

in terms of raw numbers, it's one of the better AoE trinkets, though I might prefer to use Fyrakk + Might

[unreal onyx]

(I still use 447 oce or 447 vial)

[split comet]

1 m - 1.2m dmg at 463 ilvl on a m+ pull its pretty strong

[edgy widget]

it is strong, just on a long cd

so definitely not an "every pull" kind of trinket

[unreal onyx]

Im using the smolderon trink rn

[flat river]

Just make fury BT deal 1 billion dmg already

[unreal onyx]

But even with chainpulls the dmg is way lower than in raid-st for me

[edgy widget]

Yeah, I tried Signet in M+, but it's way too hard to effectively maintain

[unreal onyx]

Especially in doti it sucks big time

With a lot of rp/downtime

[subtle lagoon]

My damage in doti is down bad

[split comet]

Tbh I think onslaught last tier was basically what blood thirst used to be in mop

[unreal onyx]

But in m+ st bosses I still kinda crank with t30 4p

[split comet]

I wish they just made bt like that vs how it is now

[unreal onyx]

With the trink

[split comet]

Needs to be giga buffed out the ass by random shit for us to use it

[tardy lark]

it doesnt

bladestorm does if you play arms though

[subtle lagoon]

They should've never taken bladestorm away from fury

[trail bane]

If you are having so many problems with tanks, perhaps you should try tanking yourself?

[flat sapphire]

I've had a lot of had tanks too like one tank yesterday couldn't hold aggro at all

Not even on bosses

[unreal onyx]

Discrimination

[glass kelp]

hey guys, everytime i need to sim something i should pick which talents or i leave them unchecked ?

[tardy lark]

just play the superior spec

[eager wraith]

i would if i had higher ilvl 1h and shield. tanking isnt hard theres routes and wa and everything, u turn off brain and make dps shine

a bad tank just makes a +20 feel like +40

[wise iron]

why is our BiS list different on Wowhead/icyveins/sims ?

(and which one to trust)

[trail bane]

It uses the currently active talents as the "current gear" for the sim, picking more talent sets will compare them to each other.

If you are only interested in what gear to use in the ST spec then you should get the /simc string while in the ST talents so they become the baseline.

[tardy lark]

just trust sims

[hushed storm]

you can grab pretty much free 450ilvl items from world events and whelpling crests.

[glass kelp]

thanks a lot

[flat river]

Did u know

[eager wraith]

free 450 ilvl 1h and shield where?

[hushed storm]

the blue 428 base items drop from events like fyrrak attack and dreamsurge, can be upgraded to 450 with whelp crests.

also a good way to grab 450 S2 4set

in case you gear up an alt or reroll

[eager wraith]

ive done those and gotten nothing but offpieces

[hushed storm]

you can also buy specific slots for dreamsurge currency

think same is for the emerald dream currency!?

[flat river]

I have a dream

That fury warrior

One day becomes S-Tier

[hushed storm]

laughs in dh, hunter, rogue

[flat river]

Trust

Next expansion fury will be OP

Source: dude trust me

Also Anduin was in the cinematic so it means warrior important

And shaman i guess cause thrall

[silver mantle]

Anduin a priest tho

[flat river]

He is a warrior priest

[hushed storm]

Just play cata classic, hear that every raid wants a war dps in tier1

[flat river]

Yeah but classic warrior is hard

[subtle lagoon]

How's fury gameplay in cata classic?

[silver mantle]

The only reason to play cata classic would be the dungeons at start

[hushed storm]

https://youtu.be/96u6uuezcMk?t=80
Not really that in depth but a quick walkthrough

[hushed storm]

10man raiding!

[empty grove]

wait

we run spear

with new 4pc

NOOOOO

[unreal onyx]

In ST maybe

[hushed storm]

only in pure ST, from what i've seen most bosses prefer roar

[unreal onyx]

But you ain’t catching me playing spear in m+

[trail bane]

I would personally play spear on some cleave bosses as well, depends on how often the cleave is and how important it is to nuke it tbh

[unreal onyx]

Also spear is like a 1% increase over roar in S2, might be slightly more now but still not a big diff

[trail bane]

Its bigger now since the 20% crit dmg will be very good when your opener has 5+ 100% crit chance Bloodbaths

[hushed storm]

It's always the question, which dps can cleave the adds down the most efficient. If we lose 2% ST to gain Roar for AoE, thats reasonable.

[trail bane]

Sure, but if your raid is doing fine on adds and are wiping because boss dmg is too low

Going spear is good

[unreal onyx]

If you can maintain 100% em buff, yes

[trail bane]

For sure

A boss where you cant put spear down and stand in it for 6 seconds is pretty rare though

[unreal onyx]

I can see that happening on smolderon or nymue with waves

[trail bane]

Perhaps

Havnt gotten there myself so cant really say :D Riku was running spear on Smolderon. And on Nymue

Lol, some dude asking for 3.5k+ score in S2 for a +18 Atal'Dazar

(He was 3096 rating in S2) :D

[unreal onyx]

WTB free boost, WTP 0g

[fading sky]

id guess he would run spear, if it ligns up with the dmg amp phase

[chrome plover]

I think spear is worth quite a bit this time around sadly

[fading sky]

ye i guess roar is good in the pad bosses

but any boss that matters is prob a spear boss no?

[chrome plover]

I think fyrakk would be a roar boss

obviously no one knows yet but adds need to die :)

[eager wraith]

2x 467 rings but still rocking blue 437 shoulder/belt 🦾

[fading sky]

ye but mby they need to be speared and bursted 😄

[unreal onyx]

Can‘t wait to get 4p to switch builds and continue to spam ramp out of habit

[chrome plover]

I'm just getting out of that now

still sometimes double rampage spamming too hard

[unreal onyx]

We basically ramp-bb-bb-bt-ramp, right?

[chrome plover]

no

just 1 bb between ramps

[unreal onyx]

And of before avatar, then avatar when bleed runs out

I‘ll be so bad with new keybinds in the first week

[chrome plover]

with dancing blades you of first, and then avatar when the ava from of is about to run out

it's like 3-4 globals

then in aoe (with titans fury(?)) you avatar for ww stacks which ends up being almost the same as with db

cant remember the name of the other of talent

[flat river]

You avatar with 3 seconds left on DB

Because it stacks till 13 seconds

In AoE you use recklessness then odyns and just boom boom (with titans fury)

[eager wraith]

is this good in m+

[chrome plover]

not really

[eager wraith]

ok, but still better than this one right? x) (470 heroic)

[chrome plover]

yes

[eager wraith]

sweet!

[trail bane]

You want to aim for Ramp > BB > Ramp > BB > Ramp > BB etc.

But without Recklessness active you sometimes need to do stuff like Ramp > BB > Slam > Whirlwind > Ramp > BB

[chrome plover]

and a LOT better in ST

[trail bane]

Outside of tierset procs you would rather use BT than Slam or Whirlwind as filler

[unreal onyx]

Don’t you get 2 bb charges?

[trail bane]

Nope, they changed it

Its stronger now but only one charge

[unreal onyx]

[trail bane]

Basically using 1 BB is now as strong as using 2 before the change

[chrome plover]

it hits for like 300k+ it's kinda nutty

and during reck you just ramp-bb-ramp-bb fro the whole thing

[trail bane]

My highest BB in the last Atal'Dazar i did was a 327k crit

[unreal onyx]

Combine old 4p with new and have bb do big dam + charge it up with ramp

[chrome plover]

was hitting over 1m on last boss everbloom

[eager wraith]

is this decent % Spread for the raid ST build? hc volcoross 455 ilvl 2 piece T31

[summer quail]

1 bb is just stronger for us. We were wasting some bb caats with 2

[chrome plover]

I would look at mine for volcoross last night but I lagged out and died 1 minute in

[eager wraith]

i almost died too while laughing at the new boomkin form waddling around

the running animation on that thing is just out of this world

[chrome plover]

yeah lmao

[flat river]

And he waddled away, waddle waddle

And he waddled away, waddle waddle waddle

Till the very next day

https://tenor.com/view/lemonade-grapes-bomp-gif-12360313

[chrome plover]

speaking of

the duck boss is funny af

[flat river]

QUACK

[chrome plover]

we're progging rn and me and a rogue are just on permanent duck duty

[flat river]

Duck duty > dpsing/parsing

[chrome plover]

I burst the boss and then go duo-duck mode with him

and clean up the room

another grey parse for the collection

[flat river]

A duck walked up to a flower on the groud, WOMP WOMP WOMP

He ate it and went to the big bear

HEY! womp womp womp

Duck you!

:D

[flint marlin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fz67NTaFxd8MpwgW#fight=13&type=damage-done&source=7 this is 99,4% uptime, 79parse, 2p/2p Set 456, slightliy different spread

[flat river]

Would you rather fury warrior be S-Tier but boring AF

Or

F-Tier

But fun AF

[chrome plover]

the latter

[flint marlin]

ill take both

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[eager wraith]

Having fun in my video game is my #1 prio

[flat river]

F-tier and boring?

Indeed

[flint marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-steve-harvey-point-hehe-gif-19918997

[flat river]

Back when i used to tryhard

I used to shout because the internet went out

Now i just chill

[flint marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-crazy-gif-19728823

[subtle lagoon]

I get incredibly pissed when my internet goes to shit while playing

[flat river]

I cursed the internet company and their entire bloodline

[flint marlin]

"now i just chill" a Fury Warrior 2023

[flat river]

That, is annoying.

I'd rather have the internet cut out

[flint marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/insane-fast-typing-cat-gif-25546775

[subtle lagoon]

Imagine doing m+ and your ping skyrockets to 1000ms, you can't play. I overcap on rage.

[flat river]

I chill in the sense that i don't get angry at video games

[flat river]

[flint marlin]

BL ind PI imcoming : RP, BL. RP, BL, RP, BL, RP, BL,OF, RP.....with 123019283012 APM

[flat river]

Add BL and CR to warriors

As shouts

You shout at allies to get their ass up when they die

And shout at them to attak

[subtle lagoon]

I don't mind keeping cr for engineering, I liked using the res wrist in s2 a lot and it simmed really good too.

But yes give us lust

[flat river]

It would make us more desirable in m+

[flint marlin]

do we talk about having no fucking value with those affixes?

[flat river]

Like i said i am chill

Play with me for a week you'll see

[flint marlin]

i just dont get why they implement stuff like this and giving us no tool to be any helpful in m+

then they do, then its broken and they remove it completely and tell us to deal with it xD

[flat river]

xd

[silver mantle]

Game balance is not there to tie the hands of the developers.

You guys have to realize this simple truth.

[flat river]

And when we complain they say to run our own key

[subtle lagoon]

The simple truth is that interns are behind warrior development

[flint marlin]

lul exactly

[silver mantle]

Also, can echo kill Fyrakk already?

I wanna start farming my legendary axe.

[flat river]

Does leggo axe only drop after mythic race?

[flint marlin]

cant wait for it

[silver mantle]

If it's similar to the ecoker legendary, it will become obtainable only after first regional mythic kill

[flint marlin]

hahahah xD

[silver mantle]

Although, blizzard have been pretty tight-lipped

[flat river]

Wait what

[flint marlin]

y

[flat river]

So if im in Europe i have to wait till someone in Europe kills fyrak?

[silver mantle]

Yes. That being Echo.

[flat river]

Noice

What boss are they at

[flint marlin]

7/9

[silver mantle]

I think they are 7/9

[flat river]

Close enough

Imagine playing videogames for a living

[flint marlin]

guess 40% at 8

[silver mantle]

Once Tindral gets nerfed, it should be free and they should start progressing Fyrakk

[fading sky]

when was fury ever S-tier and not fun ?=

[flat river]

It's a hypothetical

[flat river]

They extend mythic lock for themselves right?

[silver mantle]

I would assume so

[flat river]

Nice

Btw does leggo weapon change ilvl if heroic or normal or mythic?

[silver mantle]

Even if they didn't, reclearing wouldn't be an issue. Just a couple of hours wasted

[iron portal]

They will reclear most likely

[silver mantle]

Legendary is not affected by difficulty, I think

[flat river]

Ok good

[iron portal]

if you are not within few % of final boss, doesnt make sense to extend

[chrome plover]

it would be 1 specific ilvl, probably 496

[silver mantle]

Time to stack up on glowspores

[warm ginkgo]

Hey people. I just came back after long break in S2 . Is fury any good in raiding this patch?

Also our tier set seems less strong than the previous one

[flint marlin]

if you watch race, echo plays a fury right now

[warm ginkgo]

Interesting

[upper token]

They play two

[flint marlin]

sure he is not topdps, but lets see where this goes

[upper token]

Revvez & Wolfdisco

[flint marlin]

y

[warm ginkgo]

Thats for sure never seen this 😂

[upper token]

And don't expect them to top anything on T.Swift, they don't pad on the roots as much as others

[flint marlin]

the rogues are just so strong atm

[warm ginkgo]

I cant really remember any moment after the bfa rework fury being top tier

[subtle lagoon]

Revvez

[fading sky]

well revvez is top tier

they would prob play arms though ? if it could live or?

[warm ginkgo]

It also hurts a lot that we have 0 utility except cry. And that they nerfed this patch. Getting a group on certain affixes last season was hard

[fading sky]

i mean Cry nerf is a joke

ngl

feels so uness

nerf and removed talent

[warm ginkgo]

The talent was a must have for me always

[subtle lagoon]

We're getting the windwalker treatment

[warm ginkgo]

Well warriors and especially fury is almost never seen in balance changes . Especially for buffs

10.0.7 was a happy accident

[fading sky]

the thing is though

we are quite good on st

atm

its just the whole AUG - PI shit

that gets shit totally out of whack on meters

[honest remnant]

Define good

[chrome plover]

it's just the rogue, bm shit

[fading sky]

ayxek with new tier

and no leggo

MID

thats good

[honest remnant]

Mid is mid

So average

[chrome plover]

mid is good

[warm ginkgo]

Aug and pi warlocks will either be top tier or bottom tier always

[fading sky]

mid is good coz we havent got leggo yet

[honest remnant]

And we never will for prog

[fading sky]

well yes u will

most likely

[honest remnant]

At least me..

[fading sky]

unless u prog very fast

[honest remnant]

[fading sky]

i prog so slowly i have FAITH ! 😄

[honest remnant]

Maybe bad luck protection will have my back

But yeah, most leggo users are mid

Leggo will just help slow prog and farm

Not very appealing

[chrome plover]

we wont have axe for prog

but fury is very good on prog anyway

cant die

[spark goblet]

the lego will be same the like the evoker?

[honest remnant]

Im still not sure about the « very good »

You bring one for shout yes

[chrome plover]

no reason for echo to run two if it wasnt very good to be fair

[honest remnant]

But where does it outshine any other melee

Tindral

Thats pretty much it

[warm ginkgo]

Good spell much utility wow

[honest remnant]

Fyrak maybe

I can see fury dominate tindral

Fyrak too

[chrome plover]

the 2 bosses that actually matter

[honest remnant]

Indeed

But its yet to see

[chrome plover]

sounds like fury is very good this tier

to me

[honest remnant]

None of em are dead

[flat river]

Raid yes

[honest remnant]

Comps arent final

[flat river]

M+ not so much

[honest remnant]

Eh

I disagree

I cant say in good faith fury is bad m+ when we do 300k overall in 20s

[warm ginkgo]

Well cleave 4 target is supposed to be our speciality

[chrome plover]

fury is always among the best damage in m+

[honest remnant]

We have shockwave now, thats something 🐥

Aoe stop is usefull in many of this m+ pool

[warm ginkgo]

But you still dont get in groups on many weeks. Also we are much better on fortified than tyrannical

[chrome plover]

shockwave has felt real good this week ngl

[honest remnant]

Yup

Both in tank and fury

Always good to press

Unless you stun in sanguine

[glad plover]

"Among best" means nothing when DH and BM crush everything and everybody

[honest remnant]

And you are unworthy of the warrior title

[chrome plover]

I play with a mw

and ring of peace saves all the mobs I stun in sanguine

[flat river]

We aren't bad in m+

Just compared to other classes i mean

[warm ginkgo]

I think even ret is better than fury in m+ . Even when they can only spec on aoe or st

You might get more overall dmg but they are more useful

[honest remnant]

Ret will struggle in tyrannical

[devout grove]

What embellishment do I go for in M+?

[honest remnant]

No ES talent

[warm ginkgo]

ES?

[honest remnant]

Execution Sentence

[warm ginkgo]

Not good with acronyms 😂

[honest remnant]

Their main st dmg source

[warm ginkgo]

Ohhg

Y i know

[summer quail]

you can't come in here with your non warrior abbreviations

[honest remnant]

Which compete with Final Reckoning

Which is soooo dumb

And make ret feelsbad to pick

[chrome plover]

final reckoning is the big holy aoe sploosh right

that makes spender hit hard

[honest remnant]

One of em

The other one is a random proc

From radiant dmg

Same visual

[warm ginkgo]

Y my point is even when ret has to make some pretty bad choices for m+ they still feel better than warriors who are supposed to be very good in m+

[honest remnant]

Both are good imo

But they are not dh hunters rogue

So… yeah

Wont matter

[unreal onyx]

They are supposed to be very good?

[honest remnant]

You are still having fun in keys cause numbers good

[warm ginkgo]

Imo bringing only dmg in groups is a death sentence to forever be a mid spec

[night stone]

is the 150% dmg from fury 2 set only on primary target too or is that cleaved to the rest also?

[honest remnant]

Rally / shockwave / fear / bolt … intervene if some cheese / reflect

I mean there is tools

[unreal onyx]

Tools most people don’t take

[glad plover]

Problem with Fury or Arms is the fact that DH and Hunters are crushing us, and with Augmetation being "must bring" there wont be place for warrior in M+ for quite a while.

[unreal onyx]

At least all of them

[meager birch]

Hey Guys, quick question. Do we send Spear/Roar after odyns or with Avatar?

[warm ginkgo]

Shockwave and rally are the only actual tools you can use though

And rally cd is huge

Mote suited for raid than m+

[honest remnant]

Reck > Spear > OF+Avatar

Spend your 6 BB tier buffed

[eager wraith]

this helmet kinda grows on me the more i look at it

[honest remnant]

Wait next of

In 20s

Optimus prime helmet*

[eager wraith]

Think its paladin tier?

[unreal onyx]

Yes

[honest remnant]

Offset helm too

[deep niche]

why waste 4s avatar from Titan's Torment?

[chrome plover]

in aoe spend 4 ww stacks from of before avatar

and in st wait 3 seconds before you avatar

unless shit is gonna die in a few globals (low keys, some bosses) then just spam of+avatar

[warm ginkgo]

Only fans + avatar? Weird combo

[iron portal]

Peak comedy

[flat river]

I haven't been weird since i woke up (4 hours)

I'm frothing from the mouth

[warm ginkgo]

I just wanted to make you chuckle dont hate me

[flat sapphire]

Of and wait 4 seconds before you use avatar

Of gives you avatar buff

[deep niche]

rec > charge > rampage > OF > spear > BB > Rampage and you go

ah missed avatar

[stuck bison]

It is over you missed it

[fading sky]

but do u do that with new tier?

[deep niche]

yea missed cd rip

[fading sky]

also is that 300k with aug ?

[warm ginkgo]

Reply in few minutes when yoy have it back

[copper patio]

Sup fewls, is it wort taking shockwave over roar in higher keys? or is it just if the cc is needed? or do i avoid it all the time?

[deep niche]

ofc no

[chrome plover]

you dont take shockwave over roar anyway

[copper patio]

Alright, cheers

[chrome plover]

take shockwave over cruel strikes

[warm ginkgo]

I dont recall any talent loadout suggesting you take Shockwave over roar . You always have both

[copper patio]

I ahvent found that build nowhere, hmm

[chrome plover]

on wowhead or icyveins

the m+ builds have shockwave and roar

[copper patio]

How have i not seen that? xD my bad, thansk for the answers

[warm ginkgo]

Cheers

[deep niche]

but this build works with new set

[honest remnant]

Yes

[fading sky]

rly?

[honest remnant]

Yes

[warm ginkgo]

There is always a old tier new tier talent loadouts on wowhead if i understand your question correctly

[fading sky]

ill be doubtfull on that

but probably possible in some keys

[sturdy violet]

can you even fit 6 bbs inside the spear? You need to rampage every other global

[honest remnant]

No you cant

[woven lily]

execute higher prio than bloodbath outside of OF buff?

[oblique pond]

Is fury ahead in dmg over arms with the new 4 set? I saw alot of arms warrs still

[honest remnant]

Pretty much the same

[deep niche]

do you think there is alot warriors with 4p?

[honest remnant]

Just depends on fights

ST is equivalent for both specs

[fading sky]

most are arms coz with old tier

its way better

and not that many 4p enjoyers yet

[vapid mulch]

I know at least one

[chrome plover]

I know another one

[honest remnant]

Make it three

[vapid mulch]

Us rn

[fading sky]

and then fury as great st

but lets be honest in old spec // tier it isnt as great

[honest remnant]

If you want honesty, it was WW bad

[warm ginkgo]

Is the new tier a lot better in st?

[fading sky]

combined with the new spec yes

[honest remnant]

For fury yes, tremendously

[fading sky]

way better

how does it play pace wise

is it as fast

or less so

[honest remnant]

Yes

[warm ginkgo]

Aoe seems very similar in dmg right?

[honest remnant]

Ofc, set buffed bb doesnt spread

[fading sky]

i mean old set had angery management prob a bit better in multi target ( if u had same ilvl )

[honest remnant]

Its only main target

So you just have more OF

[woven lily]

i hate having to whirlwind/slam to generate rage in ST

sucks so much

[honest remnant]

At least we have another button than ww

Back in my days…

It was WW filler st

[warm ginkgo]

Yes granpa . Lets get you to bed 😂

[chrome plover]

it feels fine tbh

[deep niche]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

[chrome plover]

we were spoiled last tier with permanent reck

[honest remnant]

Already in bed

[warm ginkgo]

Furious slice or whatever it was called

[honest remnant]

Nurse gave me some pill

[deep niche]

blue pill?

[tardy lark]

arent you french @honest remnant

[honest remnant]

Thats none of your business

(Yes)

See the hat

On the frog

[tardy lark]

is that a french hat?

[honest remnant]

No clue

[fading sky]

id say its a tophat

[tardy lark]

so hes british

how a british guy gets into Quichons i have no clue

[honest remnant]

I play rugby so maybe a part of me is

[vapid mulch]

How different is fury playstyle now with 4set compared to previous tiers?

[honest remnant]

We have belgians and swiss !!

We are international ahah

https://tenor.com/view/mr-worldwide-gif-26368506

[tardy lark]

LONDON PARIS BOGOTA

uh

[chrome plover]

a little different

[honest remnant]

I mean the sunglasses arent the best to see where bogota is

Could be near

[warm ginkgo]

You dont have raging blow so i would say different enough

[honest remnant]

Mah boy pittbull doesnt know

[tardy lark]

Ill do next prog night im in with fireball playing all stream

[honest remnant]

Ill tune in

[vapid mulch]

I used to play both fury and arms in SL depending what I felt was best, in DF warrior was my alt so I just one tricked Arms, now I’m warrior main I wanna pick up both specs again. Everytime I spec to fury and look at my spells I just give up and switch back 😂

[honest remnant]

Larodar dead tonight

And then its prog smolderon

https://tenor.com/view/nervous-scared-hands-shaking-shivering-gif-18714091

[warm ginkgo]

Wdym?

[tardy lark]

we just started mythic last night and ended with Nymue at like 20%

[honest remnant]

Nymue is giga free

[tardy lark]

now im riding bench at 463 ilvl while Walli is 474

[honest remnant]

Just kills adds

[tardy lark]

[honest remnant]

473 here

No trinkets..

Im shaking just thinking about the spear/gate/leap on smolderon

[warm ginkgo]

I am proud 440 this patch

[tardy lark]

Not happy to say it, but i'd have funneled him gear over me as well since he comes from a rank 8 guild and i come from a rank 200 something

[honest remnant]

My old boomer ass cant process that

[tardy lark]

lol

[honest remnant]

Show him whos boss

[summer quail]

you'll get used to it

[honest remnant]

You say that

[tardy lark]

I keep up, when there isnt giga parity lol

[honest remnant]

We will have so much gear, might as well play arms

Fuck spear

[summer quail]

on smolderon? if you're better at arms play arms but i think it's a fury fight for sure

[honest remnant]

Yes it is

Id say im a warrior enjoyer, i like and play the 3 specs

The same

[tardy lark]

prot

ew

[honest remnant]

Yes i always tank farm…

Ive been killing last bosses in farm since Jaina

As prot

Most of the time

When tanks are on a break/mercato

[tardy lark]

i'll tank first week keys and then sell my shield so i have an excuse

[honest remnant]

Smarter than me

[fallen ginkgo]

Why so? Just wondering/ trying to learn

[tardy lark]

this is the first tier i havent had to tank keys

[honest remnant]

So whats our unholy dk excuses ?

[honest remnant]

Orbs

[summer quail]

damage amp, fury has better burst

[tardy lark]

our uh dk tanks in my group

[fallen ginkgo]

Oh yeah that makes sense

[honest remnant]

Not mine

[fallen ginkgo]

Thanks

[honest remnant]

Ive done 3 keys as dps