fury

[cunning igloo]

or tell me to press i mean

[eternal sundial]

yea basically it cant tell how close nameplates are anymore

so it cant "see" aoe

iirc

[cunning igloo]

if i set toggle to AOE it whirlwinds again but then it fucks st

im sure there will be an update soon

[lunar summit]

Why are rwf teams taking fury instead of arms?

Survival?

[eternal sundial]

liquid or echo?

[lunar summit]

Every top 50 team

Rarely arms

[barren walrus]

moment, ill tell u how to fix

[cunning igloo]

because fury is a gigachad spec

[eternal sundial]

i mean if u lookeed at tindral

[clever belfry]

top50 is not rwf

rwf is 2-3 guilds

[eternal sundial]

thats just a fury fight with how it looks unless its randomly turbo tight in p3

[barren walrus]

go to Hekili -> Fury -> Targetting -> and drop use nameplate detection and get only "Detect Damaged Enemies", use whirlwind when u go into AoE fight and its all good

hekili made a statement they were using the nameplate detection but wow devs changed what they are using so that's why its not working

[cunning igloo]

Hmm, still doesnt seem to be working

[barren walrus]

its like this for u now?

[barren walrus]

remove "Use nameplate detection"

[cunning igloo]

ahh ok

[barren walrus]

its fucked up, so everytime u go into aoe fight just press whirlwind at start and it will detect appropriately

[cunning igloo]

thanks so much it was messing my flow up lol

[barren walrus]

i also had an issue where charge is showing up all the time on the start of rotaion even tho i was close range, u can remove it from abilities if u have same issue

[barren walrus]

i totally understand, was a hassle for me also

[devout grove]

I just checked wowhead for stats priority, have we changed over to Vers.?

[cunning igloo]

once you get the new tier set the stats change based on the new playstyle i believe

[devout grove]

Okay, thanks for the answer. do you know the reason for that?

why isnt haste as valuable with our tier set

[cunning igloo]

Not sure for certain but others probably do

I can only speculate why lol

[scarlet sapphire]

What is Hekeli btw, heard it/read it a lot

[golden hare]

rotation helper addon

[cunning igloo]

it shows u the next 3 buttons to press in a combo essentially, It helps a lot of people get started on new classes

[scarlet sapphire]

Ah okay

[cunning igloo]

Its not perfect but it does the job, sometimes I ignore it (for instance I have just enough rage to rampage but it says raging blow so i just ignore and hit rampage)

it really helped me learn Feral druid because theres a lot of buttons

[barren dagger]

are we supposed to use the catalyst for tier already?

[wild walrus]

No wait wednesday vault to assure to don’t get 2 times the same tier set piece

[thorny peak]

damn i used mine cuz i had a champion piece and i got a token prolly should have waited

[cunning igloo]

what I am doing is waiting until tuesday because I got a chest so i might get another chest, if I get something else then I can catalize something and use 2k io token for 4 piece all together by tuesday vault

Prayge

[thorny peak]

crap pugging for 2k token again gonna be rough

[barren dagger]

so technically should have 4 set next week right? 2000 io+ vault+ any raid drop+ catalyst? would nened to be really unlucky

[cunning igloo]

if you are lucky yes

you could also get 1 drop again next week from the raid for 4 pc as well if u dont get vault

again, luck required unless you got a funnel

[barren dagger]

i think it will be fine

will get guild to give me curio ofc

[thorny peak]

well a decent vault chance for a third

[cunning igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-charliekelly-kelly-always-sunny-gif-13283537

[barren dagger]

maybe unnpopular opinion but i really like the dungeon rotation this season

just feel like dawn of the infinites is overcooked compared to the rest

[cunning igloo]

always remember, fall is free, rise you must rise up to the challenge

[olive wraith]

i disagree with u on the "throne of tides" dungeon

that thing is disgusting

[barren dagger]

yeah that one is busted

but i like the setting of it

[tardy lark]

There are wayyyyyyyy too many interrupts in some pulls

But outside that, there’s not a lot of bullshit I feel

[olive wraith]

havent been able to enter every dungeon yet, cant judge on all of them

only throne from pure looking looked very very... overwhelming at some points

[cunning igloo]

Darkheart is pretty cursed in every pug, someone butt pulls or the sanguine is super rough

[summer quail]

Throne dogs and the gauntlet are rough. If they nerf those 2 i think it's prob alright

[barren dagger]

sanguine is just dumb in general

[oblique trail]

Throne 2nd last pack with 5 mages pov

[tardy lark]

If the bolts did half damage that would be ok. But if someone isn’t topped and a cast goes off, they’re dead to a 80% bolt

[spiral night]

why do i only have 1 splinter spark what and i missing

[tidal kindle]

Yah

Not even swimming home

Cuz he was born in kr

[wild mural]

[wild mural]

did u hand in the quest last week? if ye, then that's normal coz we get a spark every other week

[oblique trail]

are you watching

[wild mural]

real T1 fans never doubt

[olive wraith]

zeus is poppin off hard

[wild mural]

t1 ahri skin pls

make the game playable again

[tidal kindle]

Yah unfortunately

[oblique trail]

I wish

I wasn't

[summer quail]

We need keria bard skin

[oblique trail]

ngl

[tidal kindle]

Its a showmatch

[oblique trail]

if they drop the ball on the 3rd draft

[tidal kindle]

[oblique trail]

then I*m just gonna go take a nap

[wild mural]

am I trolling upgrading this

[brave cairn]

No, it's simming pretty high on bloodmallet

[wild mural]

sweet

[brave cairn]

I think the only m+ trinket that beats it is rezans

[wild mural]

dont ask why im using signoll flare (funny gamer moment)

[olive wraith]

why are u using signoll flare

sry,i had to ask 😦

[wild mural]

funny innit

[quartz lichen]

before getting t31, is haste>mastery stat prio?

[spiral night]

no mastery>haste above 30%%% haste

[trail bane]

2042 rating and 6 timed 20s and i sitll cant get invited to +18's

Why are people like this

[olive wraith]

nothing that surprises me sadly

[glass kelp]

what ilevel we should be looking at if we want to do +15's ?

[olive wraith]

people usually argue then with "run ur own key?!", but what if i dont want to bc my key sucks

[trail bane]

or if there is a trinket in a certain bfa dungeon that i really want

[quartz lichen]

alrighty thank ye

[olive wraith]

u talk about that stone from waycrest manor?

[summer quail]

prob rezans

[olive wraith]

oh,forgot that one exists too

i was like "which bfa dungeon is he talking about"

[trail bane]

atty d

[fleet sorrel]

[wild mural]

Im still yet to do ataldazar

[summer quail]

chill dungeon

[wild mural]

im gna do it now

+13

about as high as I can go

[olive wraith]

u can go higher sir

just do it

[wild mural]

I dont believe

[olive wraith]

but we do

we are stronger then u

u can

[wild mural]

gaming out here tho

[manic iris]

why did verse become the second stat we want to take? does vers make our autos do more damage or something?

[brave cairn]

Uncapped Odyns fury probably

[oak raven]

so in our ST rotation with new tier do we desync avatar from other stuff in the opener? Hold it till 10 seconds to maximise the attack speed boost?

[lost rivet]

for aoe: we open with recklessness and odyns fury right? and for the next 3 bt we prioritize an enraged BT over execute?
avatar right after granting another odyns ino 4 BT

[oblique trail]

@tidal kindle @red yew gg

[sudden tusk]

bro that finals

absolute destruction

[tidal kindle]

KT picked T1 for this

[sudden tusk]

it wasnt even close

[oblique trail]

10 minutes into game 3

And I went to bed to take nap

[sudden tusk]

feels like zues mvp

for sure

[surreal token]

Thank mr KT

[oblique trail]

It should have been theshy

But

Wcyd

Wbg sprinted it and got gapped in every aspect by t1

Xiaohu also paid agent

[surreal token]

lmao why were they comparing him to faker

[covert blaze]

Zeus just built diff

[surreal token]

Theshy running it down at mach speed so he can get back before winter falls in Seoul

[golden hare]

it was not scriped at all

trust me

[surreal token]

You think KR promised Theshy they would wash his Chinese money and transfer it to KR if he threw?

[covert blaze]

Very predictable 3-0

[fading sky]

can we agree that ataldazar is fackin booring dungeon deluxe

[covert blaze]

I like AD

If I had to do 1 dungeon a week I would pick AD

[fading sky]

nah tot

ad is easy its not that

[unreal cape]

So… fury bad?

[fading sky]

so

old tier

on fury

is not that good at st

so lookin at that is a bit silly no ?

[covert blaze]

Good players that can play both are probably playing arms

[unreal cape]

yeah maybe i should look into arms

is it also performing significantly better in m+?

[sudden tusk]

arms is currently performing better becuase noone has tier and you need 4set for fury to be good

for M+ im still running T30 4 set and it cranks

[fading sky]

ye M+ u get worse with t31 as fury

arms stay the same in M+

[sudden tusk]

ill need to get 4set before i judge

[fading sky]

i dont

its quite obvious, when u loose AM

[chrome plover]

is mirror gonna be a good m+ trinky?

[fading sky]

u loose fun

it should be chawie if the big pulls are 3m apart 😄

[thorny peak]

losing AM thats all i coul think about playing anni

[chrome plover]

I just got one and idk if i should give it away

doesnt sim very good ST but surely for burst aoe its nuts

[forest rose]

wonder why blizz is so secretive of the legendary

[fading sky]

what trinkies u have?

[chrome plover]

snake + crab

[thorny peak]

dang lucky

[chrome plover]

• butchers block

but i think butchers block sucks lmao

[fading sky]

i mean its the 5th best trinket chawie in st

[chrome plover]

sims worse than crab for me rn

or = to

[fading sky]

ok should be better than crab

[chrome plover]

guess my mastery is low from ugprades

so that's probably why

guess i should keep

[fading sky]

if u are arms

that is

its crab

[chrome plover]

i am fury

[fading sky]

if u fury and i presume it should be haste

[chrome plover]

[fading sky]

dno man mirror is big in some pulls i guess best choice is to try some keys

but crab does have HUGE uptime

last key it had like 39%

[chrome plover]

damn

i had butchers block on in that 18 rise and it had 23%

crab defo beats that

[muted pecan]

is it just me having problem getting into m+s? sitting in queue for over an hour and no invite
or fury is again shit and other classes perform better

[eternal sundial]

its none of the turbo melee

but its fine

[spare otter]

We can't deal with affix

[eternal sundial]

just run ur own key or with friends

[wheat needle]

This week sucks, due to afflix

[fading sky]

to be fair butcher is more stats

[muted pecan]

friends are offline and my key is only 8, no way im upgrading it this week

[spare otter]

You're still better of just upgrading your own tbh

I'm ngl applying to keys as a war is fking painful

[worn rain]

upgrades into tott

[wheat needle]

i've got some +12 or +13 in pickup, also you can try yo create your own group with some patience

[worn rain]

[sturdy violet]

if I have spear coming up in like 8 seconds do I hold OF or just send it?

[muted pecan]

friend got 18 TOTT and we were screwed but another mate got 18 WM so he could reroll

[chrome plover]

was farming atal 17-19 yesterday and it took maybe 5-10 mins to get in a group

an hour seems crazy

(I’m like 1.7k score)

[muted pecan]

im 1,75k too, just trying to farm some more score to 1,8k D: (and gear ofc, but it never drops)

[worn rain]

regular s2 numbers, nothing new

[chrome plover]

mm I never had issues like that

[wheat needle]

score helps too

[runic pine]

???

Wdym no way you’re upgrading it this week

This is like the best week to upgrade your key lol

Took mine to 21 already

[muted pecan]

im just too lazy lol

[runic pine]

Lol

At least you’re honest

[fiery granite]

Hey a random question but does anyone know if demonbane does anything to mobs that arent demons

the special stat from Gorehowl

[barren walrus]

Guys, i just simmed Rezan's Gleaming Eye compared to Ominous Chromatic Essence / Accelerating sandglass AND its showing higher improve when changed vs Ominous Essence

is it possible its not taking into accord the 500~ haste buff the essence is providing

[willow cradle]

It's simming properly

You just need to make sure you have your chromatic essence buff properly selected in raidbots

[barren walrus]

1st - Essence
2nd - Sandglass

[unreal onyx]

Thats crazy

I am being declined from 15s at 1699

I literally tried for 45min to get into any key

[unreal onyx]

It doesn’t

[visual breach]

is double 2set beating the old 4set?

[summer geyser]

Dont worry. U will still get declined from 17's even at 2k 🙂

[wheat needle]

Sad. @Blizzard give us a way to deal with affix, damn you

[worn rain]

nerfs your RC

[wheat needle]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-it-chris-farley-saturday-night-live-damn2-upset-gif-18069872

[tepid shore]

I've been getting declined from 17s at 470 ilvl and 1800 🙂

[south thunder]

legit reasons to not take shockwave in M+?

[wheat needle]

I've have it, but most of mobs are inmune

Just to stop some of them from moving, or adds in some bosses that are affected

[chilly sapphire]

1.7+ too, still hour per key.

[trail bane]

the worst

[loud bay]

Is Vial of Animated Blood still good for Fury?

[proud leaf]

Until you can upgrade to 10.2 trinkets it's alright

[weak tulip]

Cuz we are discriminated. I’m lucky to do M+ with guild

[unreal onyx]

warrior dps might be the spec that is the hardest to get into keys

[toxic grove]

I dont think the legendary gonna save this spec

its doomed

[prime charm]

absolutely

i will be shocked if we are not buffed within 2 weeks

[barren dagger]

how easy was evoker leggo to get? can we all expect to have one in like 2 months?

[prime charm]

only way i am getting in keys (i am 1.9k) is with my own, even then people leave group when i see i am fury

[plucky ice]

people are stupid

[fervent iron]

hey quick question, is it worth to play the new 2 set and the old 2 set or just wait till i have the full new set ?

[delicate burrow]

what is the simc default weapon rune

[oak garden]

Yep timed an +18 Throne and no one care, because your no meta class.

[plucky ice]

pugs are cancer anyway so they can keep their metaslaves

[proud leaf]

From what I've seen it's worth to switch to 2 set immediately. Whether you keep old 2 set also is a question I haven't seen an answer for.

[edgy oasis]

LF Help,

All i want to know is whether to craft bracers or cloak...Bracers would mean changing the leg/belt embellishment. Crafting the cloak would mean crafting cloak and then equiping the new Incarnadine Bracers.

[proud leaf]

Use Gear Compare

in one set sim the cloak, in the other sim the bracers.

[edgy oasis]

k

[quartz oxide]

Hey guys, quick question! What talent build should I use if I still want to perform in m+ but I don't have T30/T31 set

[proud leaf]

You should catalyze 4 pieces of gear for free and get T30.

[quartz oxide]

Oh, I wasn't aware I could do that

How do I proceed?

[proud leaf]

afaik you can take the gear you get from time rifts, dreamsurges, etc. and catalyze them at the catalyst into S2 tier set

[quartz oxide]

Thanks I'll look into it

[wheat needle]

Maybe tweaking Storm Bolt to increase cc time (for example) will make Warrs more usefull

[proud leaf]

@quartz oxide I believe you need to upgrade it to max before you catalyze otherwise it falls off the track

just as an fyi

[quartz oxide]

Thanks for taking the time!

[dull sierra]

something like this

[delicate burrow]

what is the default raidbots sim weapon rune

[fading sky]

why fury blasts until we at least get full new tier and shit

but then again was asked for 4p to join a fkn 20 key

so i dno

[chilly sapphire]

Doing a key with a dh, it's depressing.

[fading sky]

why?

arms fob i can compete decently

cant u in fury as well?

[kind bolt]

so just to confirm atm arms are better at ST till we get tier right?

[fading sky]

oh he smokes me, but it isnt depressing

monkpawfire id say yes

[proud leaf]

I think SimC default doesn't use any rune

[chilly sapphire]

I'm not too far behind on dmg, but lacking the rest of their spice. Stuns/immues etc.

[proud leaf]

I'm looking through a full report using the default and I don't see any buffs for runes at all.

[fading sky]

its called being a warrior

we hav all the utility. we just cant take it 😄

[chilly sapphire]

At least compensate our lack of everything with more damage.

[fading sky]

imagine if we just had shockwave without loss

how big that would be

and its just like their stun 😄

[chilly sapphire]

Stormbolt baseline :v

And move shockwave up in the tree--

[pearl tundra]

Giving up uproar and the crit talent is barely a loss in m+ 🤷‍♀️

[fading sky]

mby in fury

[pearl tundra]

Oh yeah I meant for fury sorry

[chrome plover]

it uses hissing rune for =f

fury*

[prime charm]

shockwave should be baseline imo

[proud leaf]

why doesn't it show in the report?

after a sim?

ah, there it is.
temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3/off_hand:hissing_rune_3

[pure wadi]

with aberus 4p running annihilator, do i still hold Bloodthirst if it'll crit, but immideatly consume Bloodbath?

[languid estuary]

IS it possible to use both mirror and might of the ocean effectively?

Or is having the two trinkets with a 10sec gcd a bit of a headache

[pearl lagoon]

Don’t run annihilator with old 4p, use the rav am build

[unreal onyx]

16 BRH 4p t30

I don't think fury DPS is that down bad in m+

but if it's not meta people won't take

[prime charm]

herein lies the problem, the amount of 'influences' on youtube/twitch with their bullshit tier lists for the 'content', the average mouth breather laps that shit up and if you are not in that S tier you are not getting in

[proud leaf]

you're also a massive outlier doing that much dps in a 16

[summer quail]

in brh that number is pretty normal

[proud leaf]

not discounting what you're saying, but the highest dps for a fwar on wclogs is 175k in a 16 in BRH

[light stump]

so I saw a thread on reddit with people saying arms is doing very well in M+ ?

[zenith siren]

wowhead fury guide says vers is main stat? did they mess it up why is vers main

[zenith siren]

which site should i follow for gearing icy or wowhead

[chrome plover]

it isnt at all

[chrome plover]

wcl calculates damage differently to details

details stops recording at the end of combat, log takes the entire duration of the key

so all of the time you're running between packs (running up stairs / waiting after first boss in brh) dps is dropping on logs

I would guess that 175k was over 200k on details

[proud leaf]

doesn't really change what I'm inferring though

[chrome plover]

I dont think he's a "massive outlier" doing that much dps in a 16

I think it's at the top end of fury sure

[dull sierra]

wclogs damage is different to details

[chrome plover]

idk the only things im getting beaten by are havoc/bm/rogue

kinda trashing every other dps in my 18+ pugs

[dull sierra]

details only takes into account combat time, wcl takes into account the whole dungeon

[cloud shale]

is it ever worth to cast two rampages in a row without using RA?

[autumn mica]

Fury is in the middle of the pack right now and we'll have to see how the tuning to all classes works out after the race to world first is over

[tiny harness]

!wa

[dense elbow]

Is the TLDR of the discussion above:
Fury Warrior bad, noone invite me. I don't bring enough utility/damage.
?

[fading bane]

Warrior has legit 0 way of dealing with Incorp (Shattering Throw doesnt count)

but you should have enough ppl to deal with it unless ur group is 4 warriors

like every class cna do it

[dense elbow]

Incrop is usually handled by one or two guys. So shouldn't be an issue

So it is just the same old mindless discussion, nothing new.
Good

[muted pecan]

ain't much but its honest work; 17 TOTT (145k on logs compared to 160k BM, hunter logs still bugged?)

but damn mw is crazy in this dung as he can dispell this shit

[humble plover]

Nah you just probably slammed the last boss harder than the hunter. Makes it look funny in details cause it takes so much extra damage

[dense elbow]

I like that boss, it makes some classes go supersayen

[muted pecan]

yes i had half of my cds there

[humble plover]

I'm surprised that there's 3 bosses like that this season lol

In everbloom and brh too

[dense elbow]

Still, from all the 18s I done, Fury seems to be keeping up or performing better.

Fury atm seems alright. Shockwave always good value too

[humble plover]

Yeah it took me a sec to get accustomed to it but I'm enjoying it. Just need that 4pc so it feels like I have some sauce more often

[dense elbow]

My first timed ToT 18, was a 3x Fury Warrior run, we deleted that place

[modest condor]

fury owns

[wild haven]

what dyou reckon boys, 2p 2p or wait for 4p?

[modest condor]

depends on which playstyle you like more

[wild haven]

I like saliva all over my keyboard?

[dense elbow]

Do that then

[humble plover]

I'm sending 2p 2p to get used to the play style swap. Didn't play on ptr

[noble elm]

fury owns unless you gotta play arms because you didn't get tier :/

[dense elbow]

I still got no tier, at all. Other than the guaranteed curio. Next week tho, for sure

Feels weird being a OF enjoyer without even 2p

[humble plover]

Arms kinda owns too lol

I absolutely tore apart the 2nd boss in everbloom last night lmao
As arms ofc

[modest condor]

imagine having tierpieces already

[humble plover]

Just loot one from raid 4head. It's not like we share a token with the super op rogues or anything

[dense elbow]

You too, Silm?

[quartz lichen]

Right? Not like I rushed my first catalyst charge or anything

[dense elbow]

It is earmarked to fill 4p

[clever belfry]

skill issue

[chrome plover]

quite the collection

🤓

[modest condor]

real

[clever belfry]

just be better played

r

than the other man of ur spec

and u get lootation

[summer quail]

tried the snek trinket in m+? if so how is it

[clever belfry]

its one of the trinkets of all time

[summer quail]

that bad huh

[clever belfry]

its k

[chrome plover]

18 tott

it kinda does nothing

[clever belfry]

more than signet in keys

:))

[chrome plover]

it's funny when it procs and the lil sneks come out though

I like it

[summer quail]

1.9%

[clever belfry]

funny snek attack men

[chrome plover]

good flavour

[modest condor]

meanwhile augury does like 6% lmao

[clever belfry]

i nearly got it on hunt yday...

yeah augury actually good trinket in key

[chrome plover]

idk what to use

[clever belfry]

pips is probably also better than snek

[chrome plover]

might and mirror

[clever belfry]

in this

crab and might probs?

[summer quail]

idk, signet did like 4% of my damage in atal 19. tho we only dropped combat before last boss

not that bad

[chrome plover]

yeah maybe

[modest condor]

i honestly feel like snek is oversimming but i cba looking into it

[clever belfry]

real

🐍

[chrome plover]

it's a shame, i didnt give mirror to my friend because good in aoe and now I might not use it

im a bad person

[clever belfry]

🔴 🐍 🔴

[summer quail]

i only tried snek on ptr and felt it was garbage

[clever belfry]

yea

it never performed for me at all on ptr

[modest condor]

yeah its damage just looks trash

[clever belfry]

i was suprised by the sim

maybe just str mainstat diff

xdd

[chrome plover]

it feels trash so far to me too lol

but str is nice

this tank almost beat the boomy

fury sucks btw

[clever belfry]

what key was thast

[chrome plover]

tott

[clever belfry]

..level?

[chrome plover]

18

[dense elbow]

Stop padding on the boss

[modest condor]

what tierset?

[chrome plover]

2p2p

[clever belfry]

ew

[summer quail]

149k thrones overall deadge

[modest condor]

ew indeed

[chrome plover]

I wanted to try new build so I slammed catalyst

haters will say im dumb

[clever belfry]

no shot u slammed cata

week 1

[chrome plover]

haters are right

[clever belfry]

yeah ure dumb

[chrome plover]

[clever belfry]

even @warm crag is smorter

[chrome plover]

we kill fyrakk tonight and i get 4p

so it's fine

[dense elbow]

[clever belfry]

glueless

[summer quail]

then you get fyrakk trinket, ez

[dense elbow]

Then everyone clapped

[chrome plover]

now that one is hopium

[dense elbow]

To be fair, 3/4, I do hope you get it

[high basin]

Thoughts on rezan trinket?

[summer quail]

seems good

[dense elbow]

It a boring Geti

[chrome plover]

I think I should be next in line, a lot of people have 4set already

so one curio will likely go to me

[dense elbow]

[covert blaze]

[modest condor]

with my luck i'll probably get my 4p when the third catalyst opens

[clever belfry]

sil did ur guild not split normal fyrakk

[modest condor]

lol

[clever belfry]

gg

even for meme guilds that is biggest W to do

[modest condor]

my guild didnt even split lfr

[clever belfry]

bro we did lfr in our own time

[dense elbow]

Don't worry Silm, I will be here supporting you as a fellow 0/4 bro

[modest condor]

[clever belfry]

kinda happy the guy i was gonna buy lfr tier from ghosted me

so i got 2set actual items

😎

(and then sent cata on socky head from key and bought gloves with token)

[dense elbow]

Can we kick or timeout Anda?

[clever belfry]

good players get loot

👍

but im in for it

[modest condor]

in sepulcher i didnt get my 4set until after we killed skolex

that was

progging skolex without tier as fury

[dense elbow]

🫂

[modest condor]

casually doing 15% less

[clever belfry]

have u considered looting

[modest condor]

nah

[clever belfry]

dont think anyones gonna beat my week 1 nyalotha

had higher sim than revvez 😎

[modest condor]

i had 0 crit corruptions before the vendor opened 🙃

playing with infinite stars on nzoth because it's my only corruption

the moment crit showed up on the vendor my dps when up by like 20%

[covert blaze]

8.3 mentioned

[warm crag]

rolled

[dense elbow]

You had stars? I only had versa proc and flat versa

[modest condor]

meanwhile the dh in my guild had 2 pieces with echoing void before it got nerfed

or whatever it was called

[clever belfry]

yeah well week 1 for me was
470+s+EV3 gloves from carapace hc
465 EV2 legs from maut
hc chest from vex
heroic vita

then in mythic week
i crafted engi goggles
got shoulder from 2nd boss (i think?)
rolled on chest, got somethjing usable
mythic wep from maut

[covert blaze]

[clever belfry]

i was bl@sting

[dense elbow]

Can we mute Anda he is too blessed

[solemn plover]

fake

[dense elbow]

Ruining the dooming

[clever belfry]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1h3pXMADyPdkwvbn#fight=24&type=damage-done
gapping good classes on xanesh

[chrome plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8J1nYJNKmc77HJqzCs4cyc

idk snek kinda meh

[brittle crow]

is pilgrims bounty up? i see no chairs

[chrome plover]

I guess I run snake/might on ST and might/crab on aoe hmmge

[covert blaze]

🦀

[wild mural]

lezgoooo

[chrome plover]

gz

champion

[dense elbow]

Gz

[clever path]

Got my heroic one today:)

[dense elbow]

Oh

[wild mural]

oh well

im bad at keys

[dense elbow]

I retract my gz

[wild mural]

but lezgo

was boosting up a buddies key

[chrome plover]

yeah I did a 15 atal and was praying trinket didnt drop lol

[covert blaze]

Rude wtf

[undone remnant]

icy veins fury suggesting annihilator/odyns but most of the top 10 fury on raider io taking the s2 build of onslaught/ravager?

[dense elbow]

Cause we dont have tier

[undone remnant]

onslaught/ravager simming higher aoe and for boss also

[covert blaze]

Depends on having the new tier set

[undone remnant]

ahhh

tyty

[dense elbow]

[wild mural]

[covert blaze]

I did like 5 AD and got rezan's

[wild mural]

that was my 2nd run

[covert blaze]

I did a million thrones and I haven't gotten a single item from there

No weapon, no crab, no might

[wild mural]

got both those trinkets in 2 runs

[covert blaze]

Fk u

[wild mural]

but champion

[covert blaze]

All my gear is champion too I'm a returning player

[wild mural]

I have 1 hero piece

[covert blaze]

I don't get invited to anything above 15

[wild mural]

and im not returning

im just lazy

[wanton mirage]

got this beauty, too bad its on hero track

[covert blaze]

[brittle crow]

no demonbane?

😦

[humble plover]

Syi stop being lazy. Rise up, take fury by the balls and show everyone that we can be meta too. (We can't)

[wanton mirage]

it has it. somehow not showing up in armory

[brittle crow]

whats demonbane even do have we figured it out yet

[humble plover]

Do dam vs demon

[wanton mirage]

i was about to ask it lol

[covert blaze]

I'm also a helper now on my guild. I cleared normal and 7/9h (we raid again today for aotc and early mythic). I had to pass on all loot, they're basically carrying me for omnitoken

[dense elbow]

You sir, are a lootbody

[covert blaze]

Yeah there's 2 other ex raiders like me getting carried

I haven't raided in 2 years

I played 1 month of 10.2

[slim canyon]

hows fury guys?

[brittle crow]

pretty furious

[covert blaze]

Fine

[cloud shale]

If I have 80 fury do i press Execute or Rampage? According to guide exec when available

[brittle crow]

rn it doesnt rly matter all too much as long as you dont overcap

but in theory as long as you arent overcapping you dont want to press ramp yet

in practice our rage gen is insane and spikes a little bit sometimes in reck

so probably just press ramp if ur in reck

[graceful yarrow]

yo boys this dropped from the raid today: https://www.wowhead.com/item=207786/gholak-the-final-conflagration, is there anyway to make it work for fury? its my only 1h

[brittle crow]

smf is bad and will always be bad

there is no way to make it work

[wild mural]

Lets goooooooooo

[lilac plinth]

Welcome to club

[prime charm]

even at almost 2k i struggle to get into 18s

hardly surprising when DH, BM, Rogue do 100k dps more

[brittle crow]

dont say that you'll tempt my faith

[slate escarp]

which rogue specc do 100k more?

[prime charm]

None. I made that bit up out of frustration and jealousy

[gilded pawn]

rogues do a lot though

[versed cipher]

what embelishment gear is bis

[past pivot]

depends on focus. Pins has some info

[covert blaze]

My source is that I made it the fuck up

[fading bane]

havnt played with Havoc yet, but you cant beat a hunter with t31 4pc thats for sure

if you assume similar gear and hands

should never be possible

[sacred sapphire]

How far behind is SMF fury compared to 2H

[past pivot]

on average 6-10% at equal ilvl. More when the legendary comes out

[dry talon]

should i break t30 4pcs for better items or stay with them till i get atleast x2 t31?

[sacred sapphire]

I have 2 2H 447ilvl weaps - 1H 467 and 447. Should I go with 1H for now?

[past pivot]

Don't break tier for ilvl. Sim 2p+2p over 4P t30, Or wait for 4p t31

[sullen basin]

463 1h sword with sophic devotion 3 is 1k dps higher than a 431 2h with nothing on it

doesnt sophic 3 give you like 3k

[sullen basin]

infinitely far behind because if you're not just aotc andy you arent allowed to play it

[chrome plover]

ofc you are allowed

no one is stopping you

[past pivot]

Just laughing at you

[chrome plover]

^

[sacred sapphire]

Are you running a 2H and 1H?

[sullen basin]

no, 2h 447 is massively stronger than 467/447 1h considering 434/431 2h is higher than 463/437

I am til I get a 2h worth paying 5k gold for an enchant for 🙂

I ran murozond one time and didnt even get the axe

[past pivot]

You never run a 2hander and 1hander. Lose both bonuses.

[sullen basin]

the bonus to using a 2hander with another 2hander is the higher strength/stam

there is no actual bonus beyond the weapon stats

smf has a bonus, if you talent into it (and you lose a lot of dps just doing that)

literally just zugzug two big sticks

[gilded pawn]

2+1 probably does more damage than smf

[near gust]

so guys what is minimum key lvl for each dun to get 2k week 2?

[gilded pawn]

Ngl

[chrome plover]

the bonus is they do a fuck ton more damage

it's a huge bonus

[sullen basin]

2 2h with smf talented does more damage than 2 1h with smf talented im sure

[upper wigeon]

Not getting into keys blows

[sullen basin]

well 3k was like 22 or somethinh righht? probably 15

maybe 18

[chrome plover]

yeah it's 15~ on all

[sullen basin]

3k was 22* on two weeks

[brittle crow]

am i being pranked

where is the pilgrims bounty

it started already according to calendar

[sullen basin]

what the fuck is pilgrims bounty

[past pivot]

Gold is practically free. No excuse not running the right type of weapon. Enchanted or not.

[subtle lagoon]

main cities

[sullen basin]

oh yeah you're right

[sullen basin]

nice lie, gold isnt free

it costs £17 for 370k gold :3

[brittle crow]

you lie there is no thanksgiving here

[spare otter]

Gold is free?

Where?

[sullen basin]

you have to go do professions for gold

[subtle lagoon]

Horde? it's outside orgrimmar

[past pivot]

Practically fre, yes. Just do some quests and bang

[sullen basin]

world quests you can get a few thousand every other day

[subtle lagoon]

or at thunder bluff, or undercity outside

[sullen basin]

thats not free

[spare otter]

Progressions LOL

Imagine

[past pivot]

Practically free.

[brittle crow]

should be in valdrakken too i saw

[subtle lagoon]

Should be but idk where it is there

[brittle crow]

and theres nothin outside orgrimmar either

[wanton mirage]

u are trading your actual life with gold while doing quests bro

[sullen basin]

right now there's about 4-5k gold worth of world quests active

[subtle lagoon]

Wear glasses I was there earlier today

[spare otter]

4-5k gold is nothing tho

[sullen basin]

make that like 8k i forgor underground place because it wasnt memorable

[subtle lagoon]

close to the main doors to the city

[spare otter]

That's legit like 10 phials

[brittle crow]

https://i.imgur.com/50hkuuw.jpeg 404 thanksgiving not found

[past pivot]

Better than running around with a 1hander and a 2hander imo

[sullen basin]

I spent like 10k on one or two raids worth of potions im not spending 5k enchanting a weapon thats gonna be replaced next boss kill

[subtle lagoon]

you're cursed

[spare otter]

Personally I think they should make potions, enchants, crafts, food and everything else free

[brittle crow]

theyre cheap tho

[spare otter]

That's cap

[sullen basin]

they're cheap if you bought the MCB in bfa and still have shit tons left

maybe cheap if you gamed wod

Raid buffs should be you talk to a guy in the raid and now you have the buffs

oh no muh professions
make alchemy fun instead of required and itll still sell 🙂

[spare otter]

Can't believe people charge like 25k for a craft

[brittle crow]

i started in legion and never did any auctioning, no table gaming, etc

[spare otter]

Like am I made of money?

[brittle crow]

i have 850k gold

cap

[mild thunder]

We tried something similar in WoD and everyone cried homogenisation.

[sullen basin]

do it again

I have 35k gold I spent 40k gold on raid prep (and a little on profession recipes)

[spare otter]

You have 35k gold and you spent 40k

Wha

[true sapphire]

He must have had 75k gold at some point.

[tall turret]

[mild thunder]

I got down to 300k in this expansion at one point, and I'm up to 4.3m again.

I don't really know how people go sub-100k permanently.

[spare otter]

No way he's just flexing on you like that

[brittle crow]

i was sub-100k permanently until i started gambling

now im at 850k

zz

[mild thunder]

Lol

[spare otter]

I mean Im ngl

I feel like the only way to make decent gold

Is by boosting

[brittle crow]

so boost then

its valid

[mild thunder]

We're in a new season, so if you're worth a damn as a player you can get into boosting. Skills to pay the bills, really.

[prime charm]

You can easy make 300k a week of world quests with an army of alts.

[spare otter]

I will when I get my logs/gear

[brittle crow]

with the time i spent doing that id rather just work my job 💀

[sullen basin]

and did you get this money in a way that anyone can do or did you get this money in a way that only you and a few people can go

do*

[gilded pawn]

You are the 1% of gamblers who didn’t quit

[sullen basin]

if you keep gambling smf will be good

[brittle crow]

im gonna keep goin too

[mild thunder]

2m just selling stuff. 2m was from selling the Sark mount.

[grand condor]

Yeah, an hour spent working pays for way more wow tokens, whereas two boosts which will total about an hour will net me just one token probably

[prime charm]

The beauty of WFH all day on teams calls while playing wow.

[brittle crow]

cant relate im a mechanic xd

[sullen basin]

define stuff

[spare otter]

No way this game p2w

Can't even afford raid prep

[sullen basin]

this game isnt p2w its p2skipthegrind

[brittle crow]

idk why you'd p2skipthegrind in a grinding game

thats like paying to skip forward in fuckin cookie clicker

[mild thunder]

Transmog, alchemy, random greens from the current patch, Mage tower and Timewalking items, alchemy mats and pots/phials, CTA for runes.

[brittle crow]

random greens sell for valid amounts?

news to me

ive been vendoring em

[spare otter]

Idk man I hired Venezuelans to do stuff for me in rs

[mild thunder]

You'd be surprised.

[spare otter]

And that's basically cookie clicker

[sullen basin]

every random green i try to sell gets sent back to my mailbox, with undercutting

I'm a blacksmith so no money there

[brittle crow]

and u can sell timewalking items?

[mild thunder]

Anyway. Pretty low effort gold making on my end. If I got back into boosting I'd be rich af.

[spare otter]

I mean boosting communities require 90+ logs

[mild thunder]

Yeah. I've sold some stuff for hundreds of thousands, up to 1.1m on the biggest one last patch.

[spare otter]

Which idk how you're meant to get so early in the season

[sullen basin]

timewalking being level 1-60 timewalking higher item level drops

[spare otter]

If you don't get lucky with gear

[mild thunder]

Jackhammer with a good ilvl is gold cap most of the time.

[sullen basin]

no way

[brittle crow]

i mean idc about gold much so im not gonna bother doing any of this

im just gonna keep gambling til gold cap

[sullen basin]

deathroll me for 1 gold

[brittle crow]

real and would

[sullen basin]

dont think ive ever seen one on the auction house lemme have a look

[mild thunder]

I think I've seen like 13 in total.

[sullen basin]

I'm going to assume that green selling requires being on one of those bullshit servers where you can actually make money without blizzard making materials global

[mild thunder]

Nah I just check if there's any value to them. If it's not worth posting I vendor.

[spare otter]

Tbh

You should just get more gold doing m+ and raids

At least enough for raid prep

[sullen basin]

the most expensive items on my server are the ones people are using to RMT across accounts

like those random worthless greys whites greens etc that cost randomly millions

i mean

[mild thunder]

Lol

[sullen basin]

first stuff below cap its all random
theres like one or two things that dont exist any more

like this ugly ass shirt

[abstract vortex]

guys just want to know, what are the best enchantments to put on our weapons?

[sullen basin]

do you reckon theres people out there posting at high values hoping it tricks someone into thinking its just worth that

[sullen basin]

sim it

[abstract vortex]

okok

[mild thunder]

Lol yeah. I've heard of a couple lucky people doing that.

[sullen basin]

gonna need a 🙏🏻

[upper wigeon]

Just so everyone know rousing frost and awakened frost is worth a ton right now

[sullen basin]

is it though

i think i get those through mining spec

[upper wigeon]

Yes, they sell for 450 a piece right now

[sullen basin]

yeah well this is as much chance to get them as i can get

[upper wigeon]

Herbalism is the best way

[sullen basin]

are you talking about NA because its uh
not 450

[upper wigeon]

Yeah NA is exepnsive lmao

[sullen basin]

awakened frost is about as much as a rousing frost is for you, here

air too

[sullen basin]

ok so its actually more expensive here
i thought you meant rousing lol

anyway im not a herbo so i dont see many

[rotund steppe]

i wonder where to farm those

i need to craft more vials

[sullen basin]

primal ores with the first point in the elemental area

probably azure whatever that place is cold

[subtle lagoon]

Was going to time a 20 fall

[upper wigeon]

theres a frozen lake thatvhas ice elementals that have a chance to drop but the best is herbalism

[elder ridge]

This trinket is always in my top 3 dmg ability's. Seems about right

[wanton mirage]

I got so much crit from new gears that Tepid is now simming at same level as Raging Flask 🤨

[frosty moat]

what string are you using to run that? 😮

[obtuse yarrow]

is it worth to use the odyn's fury build if u only have 2 set?

[rotund steppe]

dhs got nothing on me

[wanton mirage]

#fury message

[frosty moat]

❤️

[summer geyser]

Yeah... About that

[humble plover]

If you want to yes. Don't have to tho

[olive wraith]

That tank is throwing

[humble plover]

I am and it's going fine

[left perch]

[olive wraith]

Only 86k

Smh

[broken kindle]

which build are we going for m+? without any tiersets yet?

[wild mural]

unlucky

[upbeat plume]

season 2 build, even with 2pc tier it seems to do better just switching onslaught out with odyns

[chrome plover]

4p

[unreal onyx]

0p

[quartz oxide]

If I have no tier piece at all, is it better Arms or Fury ?

[unreal onyx]

2p2p is better in ST, but only 4p T31 is better in m+, right?

[oblique trail]

more or less

you can play 2p2p in keys but it will be jank

[wild mural]

it is

[unreal onyx]

ye I'll wait until I get 4p to use it in m+

(I have 1p so far)

[wild mural]

im using 2/2

[oblique trail]

have just been running arms all my keys except for like 3-4

both pre and at 2p

[wild mural]

cause im mainly trying to get the rotation down

[unreal onyx]

is arms m+ better than fury?

[wild mural]

but it does feel jank

[oblique trail]

It's probably better pre-4p

[unreal onyx]

I feel like my fury boss-dam is big in m+

[oblique trail]

haven't gotten 4p yet nor played with any warriors with 4p

[brittle crow]

https://i.imgur.com/JeWxJvf.png huge

[oblique trail]

so can't really tell

[unreal onyx]

tindral hc "prog" today

and then fyrakk

surely aotc today

[wild mural]

im hoping we get to Smolderon

[unreal onyx]

smolderon is a clusterfuck imo

[wild mural]

i wanna kill it and the weapon drop and they give it to me

[unreal onyx]

surely that'll happen

[wild mural]

well

[unreal onyx]

on our kill the weap dropped, 2x signet brand and the plate boots

and the woyer token

[wild mural]

we've got 3 2H users, and we got 3 weapons from the first boss on normal

[unreal onyx]

I only got signet brand and the shoulder tier

[wild mural]

So I've still got a 450 in off-hand while we all have 476 on mh

"only"

[unreal onyx]

im rocking 463 nm smolderon weap

and 450 ashk

other warr in my guild has gorehowl with avoidance on maxxed hero track

[wild mural]

jeez

im the only warrior on my guild

[unreal onyx]

2p gamer

[meager void]

I would guess Vers Wrists are a good option if I raid mythic and push keys, right?

[unreal onyx]

im down bad on gear

[unreal onyx]

yes

[oblique trail]

Yes

[meager void]

thx brownies!

[unreal onyx]

I still didn't even cross 460ilvl

other warr is already at 470 equipped

[wild mural]

ayo

I dont know what sorta ilvl ppl in my guild are

[modest condor]

im ilvl 450 :)

[low folio]

is rezans trinket any good in m+? it seems like a single target trinket

[young swan]

its mostly ST, yeah

could still use it for m+

probably just wont be very good

[unreal onyx]

cataclysmic signet brand is also kinda meh in m+

if you don't chainpull

[wild mural]

did a decent amount in my last run

[barren walrus]

can someone tell me if this sim is including the 500~ haste buff from ominous - https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hhYR9Jd6SnUqNqjfGziy4t

[unreal onyx]

471 now even

[wild mural]

jfc

[olive wraith]

“Down bad”

[unreal onyx]

that's not me

I am down bad

at 459

[olive wraith]

You have signet brand

You’re doing fine

[unreal onyx]

[upper wigeon]

Tried arms btw

cant do it not enough zug zug

[restive peak]

Arms is more zug zug than fury this tier brother

Fury actually has a rotation now, arms is still spam OP into MS into OP into MS

[fleet sorrel]

[wild mural]

I don’t know how to play that

[oblique trail]

[wild mural]

[red yew]

[upper wigeon]

[unreal onyx]

[proud wedge]

hey chat, hope y'all are simming top logs IRL

[iron portal]

Simming top logs

[unreal onyx]

inky black potion kinda going hard

[solemn pebble]

Just joined, haven't played WoW in years and even then barely played but I'm doing Fury Warrior following a guide on WoW Head but can't seem to find which stance to use. Defensive or Berserking.

From using my eyes and brain most of my damage doesn't come from Auto Attacks so I don't see Berserking as ideal, sure the CC reduction is nice but surely the Damage Reduction AND ALL Damage Increase from Defensive is just better, right?

TL:DR Best Stance For Fury Warrior Pls

[unreal onyx]

berserk

[eternal sundial]

Dstance reduces damage dealt and damage intake

[unreal onyx]

tldr

[eternal sundial]

Thus it's worse than zerk

[solemn pebble]

huh?

[unreal cape]

why do we cast avatar before recklessness and not the other way around?

[summer quail]

you mroe tanky but do less damage

[solemn pebble]

Oh I see, I read it wrong

[unreal onyx]

you are crippling your dps output when using def stance

[unreal onyx]

only use it when big dmg is incoming

and then switch to berserk back

[eternal sundial]

Strong word

[spiral ridge]

"reduces"

xD

[eternal sundial]

Dstance is insane just use it with it defensives

Be safe

[unreal onyx]

well it's reducing dmg you could otherwise out out

[solemn pebble]

Got it, is Berserking even a dmg increase then? I feel like the AAs do so little. I guess it's not a dmg DECREASE but does it increase dmg?

[unreal onyx]

for no real reason unless you have big dmg incoming

[unreal cape]

anyone?

[gilded pawn]

Yeah berserker stance is essentially “not defensive stance”

[gilded pawn]

There was some bug

[unreal cape]

i'm reading up on the rotation, it just says to do it, not why

[gilded pawn]

They fixed it now

[unreal onyx]

berserk is 100% dmg, def stance is 90% dmg

[spiral ridge]

I mean it gets more value once you use odyn's with the attack speed increase for ST + annihilator

[unreal cape]

so what does that mean then? i can cast recklessness before avatar?

[gilded pawn]

Just do it like wowhead says

[unreal cape]

yeah i mean sure, would've been nice to udnerstand the reasoning behind a rotation instead of just blindly following it

that way i could memorize / internalize it better if i understand i guess

[olive wraith]

He said though

There used to be a bug

Now there’s not

[gilded pawn]

I’m actually not sure

[unreal cape]

so if there's no bug anymore, why wasnt it changed on the guide

[gilded pawn]

That’s second hand information

[unreal cape]

i dont even know what bug

[gilded pawn]

Because that information is relevant for 2 more weeks

[olive wraith]

What’s the opener on wowhead

[gilded pawn]

Until people switch to new tier

[unreal cape]

its just something someone said without source

i mean.. 2 weeks is a lot of time

Avatar -> Recklessness -> Charge -> Ravager -> Rampage / Onslaught / Bloodthirst -> Spear of Bastion -> Rampage -> @olive wraith

[gilded pawn]

It’s not when the tier lasts for like 6-7 months

[unreal cape]

and i wanted to know why avatar before recklessness

[olive wraith]

Because the bug

Old rotation probably wasn’t updated post 10.2

[unreal cape]

ah yeah, the bug noone knows anything specific about

i'll just accept it for what it is, thanks for the responses

[gilded pawn]

Too lazy to type out on mobile

[olive wraith]

Why do you need to know the bug if it’s irrelevant

[unreal cape]

its fine, it doesnt matter i guess

[olive wraith]

If you did reck first before 10.2 you lost avatar duration

But again. It doesn’t matter now

[fading bane]

@modest condor you got any knowledge of why Augury is simming way more on Nightly than Latest

[modest condor]

no but i can check if i can find out

[fading bane]

ait, cheers

its like +5k on Nightly, +2.6k on latest

pretty big diff

[dreamy hemlock]

how do you guys cope with people saying warrior is useless in 20+ with them not bringing enough utility etc as other classes? I really like fury but I also dont wanna get rejected in the future

[unreal onyx]

DH very good, very balanced

[clever path]

Alcohol

Or you play pvp

[dreamy hemlock]

pve

[clever path]

You misunderstand

You don't get into 20+ keys

Welcome to being a Warrior

[modest condor]

seems like they changed something, which was pushed to nightly, but then realised they did it wrong and reverted it or changed it some more or something and that's not on nightly yet

not sure what exactly was changed i cant read code

[fading bane]

which one is correct then?

so its latest that is correct

[modest condor]

well it's the most up to date one

whether that's correct or not we'll have to see

[oblique trail]

is it now that I do an updated droptimiser

[fading bane]

fair enough

either way its a large ugprade

[oblique trail]

to spread propaganda and lies

[south kayak]

Does fury get better than arms with 4p

[young swan]

should be about equal with 4p

[oblique trail]

Just resimmed as Arms and Augury went from 1.2k to a 4.4k upgrade xd

[wild mural]

its time

[oblique trail]

what a meme

[wild mural]

rat pack world first

[unreal onyx]

tindral down

time for aotc

[fading bane]

lmao

[oblique trail]

Shared droptimiser with lootcouncil

Surely I get Augury now

😎

[clever belfry]

just cook the sim

🧑‍🍳

[oblique trail]

sim without my rezan

crank it even higher

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/JUQGU/2087a88992.png

any augury enjoyers

[ornate gust]

How many seed we can soak in heroic Tindral fight? like 4?

[cerulean bronze]

Silm, What is the % of the trinket in mm+ ?

[edgy widget]

A) The bug was fixed and the guide was updated to reflect that, which is why there's no longer a section saying make sure you use Avatar before Recklessness in order to avoid this bug!

[unreal onyx]

augry is huge with 4p, right?

bc of all the crits

[edgy widget]

B) I don't understand what the problem is with the opener in the first place? Whether it says "Avatar -> Reck" or "Reck -> Avatar" is unimportant precisely because it's no longer bugged

[heavy galleon]

OF stacks or replaces each other?

[oblique trail]

why would it gain value with 4p

[heavy galleon]

I mean, if I OF during avatar when my target have already the DoT, the DoT accumulate or replace itself

[unreal onyx]

frequent crits

[oblique trail]

again what does that have to do with 4p

[oblique trail]

If you OF and use Avatar at the same time, the bleed gets clipped

You want to space the uses

[unreal onyx]

2p*

sry

[nocturne tiger]

So how do you not get carpal tunnel playing fury

Any tips

[modest condor]

didnt know fury causes carpal tunnel

[mint obsidian]

guys fury still good or Arms is the way to go for PvE now?

[young swan]

both

[nocturne tiger]

I think it's only during bloodlust but it's killing me rn

[mint obsidian]

both good?

[summer quail]

i have some buttons on mouse, helps alot

[young swan]

yes

[mint obsidian]

tier set favors both specs?

[young swan]

both specs are good

[summer quail]

they have different strengths, some fights favor arms, some fury

[iron portal]

Only for weak men

[unreal onyx]

2p, my bad. I mean the frequent BB/BT crits that increase dmg

[oblique trail]

Idk it might

I just simmed very patchy and it sims 2.6k more with 2p2p compared to 4p aberrus

[mint obsidian]

whats the different pros and cons? one is more bursty?

m+ both are good?

[oblique trail]

Damage profile and encounter type

for raid that is

For m+ you can play both just fine