fury

[edgy widget]

it's "check the pins and read the guide"

[flat river]

ok

thx

[clever path]

😃

[wild mural]

can I also get RIP bozo for the meta reroller

my dps is so bad

[clever path]

Got robbed today of a 20 lower doti because of the little eles bugging out and aggroing and not being able to be targeted.

[soft otter]

Yesterday I accidentally took my Aberrus 4p off, and did 167k in 16 ToTT, and I'm not getting invited to 13s, why are we still here

[short spire]

why is he gorehowl our bis?

[clever path]

No fun

[short spire]

what does it do ?

[eternal sundial]

exta dam vs demons

iirc

[short spire]

the demonbane?

what does it do

[clever path]

Wowhead

Dungeon journal

[wild mural]

im suffering with dps

im basically having to be boosted in keys

[clever path]

Read at

[wild mural]

im gonna get a raid spot cause this is my 3rd tier with this team and Im the only one degen enough to still play warrior

[clever path]

Same

I don't sick so much on fps tho

Dps*

[wild mural]

Im godawful at dps aTM

really struggling with this new rotation

mb arms moment

[eternal sundial]

i get spot cuz ranged

[clever path]

We are now "we got Aug at home" in keys

[short spire]

someone told me yesterday that ur tank ahs to be allience for the sword to drop is that true?

[eternal sundial]

i had a dev in a key recently

whack ngl

[eternal sundial]

no

:omeg

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[clever path]

Actually it's an axe

[eternal sundial]

axually

[summer quail]

[dry talon]

I've got beaten by arms for about 25k dps yesterday on lava worm boss,fck this shit

[dark ice]

Guys

I want legendary

already

gimme

[livid carbon]

where would spear go, if for single target?

[unique lake]

If you go spear replace TR in that rotaion

[wild mural]

has anyone got the macro to hand that swaps between spear or roar depending on waht u pick

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion,@cursor] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

[wild mural]

danke

[flat sapphire]

well got a trinket just not the one I wanted

[rose dagger]

Just checked revvez opener and it goes like : reck -> charge -> rampage -> of -> spear -> avatar -> bb

[near gust]

@flat sapphire got same, even decided to test it manually and its utter shit

[flat sapphire]

Is it that bad cause it sims higher for me

[near gust]

idk what u have

[wild mural]

imagine getting loot

kekw

[near gust]

i wouldnt use it over on use/straight dmg trinket due to nature

[flat sapphire]

had

this

[near gust]

like it can proc last second of pull and u waste proc and it makes nothing

[flat sapphire]

dw it was the first item I get in 4 dungeons

[near gust]

i have hourglass that i replaced scale with and its decent i would keep it

[flat sapphire]

I will keep it and try out my crab

[flat river]

crab?

UwU

how do i make spear cast at mouse location

[jovial light]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Spear of Bastion

Wont need to click either, so make sure mouse is actually on the right position

[flat river]

ty

[wild mural]

I still don’t have a trinket

I got a weapon from the raid

And that’s basically it

I’m so unlucky

Got 2 drops from 9 keys so far

[neon musk]

tfw you are simming 88k dps on st with 453 ilvl

does setst really give so much dps gain?

[flat river]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xnNK2ovp5sUuqmFTtnCXjg

ST :O

how do i test AoE btw

Dungeon Slice?

[willow cradle]

Dungeon slice doesn't properly reflect m+

What is it you seek to learn by simming AOE?

[oblique trail]

just sim patchwerk honestly

Whatever sims the best in patchwerk will basically be equally as good in AoE

Because of how Fury's aoe works

[fallen ginkgo]

i think its patchwerk 5 bosses 40sec

[flat river]

ok

what is the optimal amount of timei should be simming

i usually sim 5 min

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/d41YEPahNVq2jPruhdY7nM

holy shit AoE

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fdVaSU9RFQ4j5oAspWvsqR ST

[ebon shore]

hey I'm relatively new to the game started about a week, farming m+ dungeons now for better gear is there any specific dungeon I should be targeting for specific gear?

[flat river]

just run dungeons so you can upgrade your ilvl

focus on gear/trinkets later

[eternal sundial]

anything that drops weapons imo

[ebon shore]

I have decent weapons for now I think

[red berry]

you and i both. ive ran over 25 keys and ive gotten two drops. what ive gotten has come from other people. not a weapon nor a trinket yet either

[molten night]

either im an idiot or an idiot, just read that i should not drop tier for 20+ ilvl increases, and i did xD yet im pumping sort of.

[wild mural]

I hate throne

[clever belfry]

yea

top3 worst keys to ever be in any rotation

up there with rise and siege of boralus

[elder epoch]

Bois is there a prio list on wowhead?

Woth 4p

[wild mural]

lezgo

[obtuse basin]

Bye Fury mates, i am going to the dark side : Arme

[past pivot]

Arme?

[brittle tendon]

So arms > fury or what? 😮

[pure breach]

Arme?

You always come back to the light side

I mean to the rampage side

Eventually

[pure socket]

Long time lurker and I am happy to report I just went 2 by 2 on the sets

Rampage nukage

[fading sky]

i mean revvez was playing fury on smoldy

i reckon has 1 big issue, it struggles staying alive

[frosty karma]

my arms sim was super far ahead of fury

then i got a few higher vers and mastery items and now fury is ahead

t31 loves vers/mastery it seems

its like when a ring was 300 dps for me but 1500 for a moonkin, thats how fury feels like right in terms of upgrades

[clever belfry]

https://i.imgur.com/EXmj3fw.png gg

[subtle lagoon]

First we face discrimination from augs, now it's from the game

[celest cosmos]

Hey yall I an trying to get some information so we go 2set for both or do we just full send to 4 set

[meager birch]

Do we use execute whenever available or only when rampage/bloodbath is not up?

[chrome plover]

and t30 :)

[willow cradle]

T30 did not have you dropping 5% haste for verse tho lol

[wild mural]

[wintry escarp]

Can say I've been decently lucky

[timid tendon]

As a warrior many times where there is bunch of adds i lose target, any idea how to fix it?

[keen kindle]

....don't hit escape?

[sullen wagon]

Dont hit tab

[subtle lagoon]

Don't left click the floor

[tardy lark]

If you use plater, you can find a mod with different “this is your target” arrows on the nameplates instead of the slightly lit up nameplate a lot of profiles use

[wanton mirage]

@gilded pawn do you know how the range check for melees work on hekili now?

[rotund ginkgo]

ye dont use hekili

[granite tiger]

the best items we should craft for fury is the versa wrist and a shadowflame back ?!

[tardy lark]

Look at it as “the least bad items”

[rotund ginkgo]

tak aagaard

[covert wyvern]

Is it better to stick to the old 4pc opposed to running 2pc with the new set mixed with old 2pc in m+?

[past pivot]

try both and see

[tardy lark]

Simming it is your best option. If you want to try anni build now, do 2p2p

[rotund ginkgo]

anni build not feeling as bad as i thought

[chrome plover]

surprised pikachu

[granite tiger]

did u craft any of them or still w8 ?! in pin message saw : dont rush for it
im still dont know what i should do ;/

[weak tulip]

So we are saying good bye to warrior ?

[clever belfry]

yes

[rotund ginkgo]

[clever belfry]

warrior is dead

[oblique trail]

@tardy lark wat do I do

[rotund ginkgo]

yes everyone go aug

[tardy lark]

If you aren’t fuzzed, you’re most likely better off at old 4p for now

[rotund ginkgo]

[chrome plover]

[oblique trail]

my brainrot completely took over

[covert wyvern]

[oblique trail]

and I did a big mistake

[clever belfry]

u guys

need a hobby

[rotund ginkgo]

[chrome plover]

I slammed 2p in catalyst because I wanted to try it

[oblique trail]

I catalysed the wrong piece of gear

[clever belfry]

write ticket

[oblique trail]

pretty sure it's over for me

[rotund ginkgo]

kek

[tardy lark]

Haven’t crafted yet as there’s no reason to before we hit a wall on mythic

[rotund ginkgo]

remake char delete old warr

[tardy lark]

Reroll yellow

[weak tulip]

me2

[rotund ginkgo]

just hit 2k rio and get 4piece

[tardy lark]

Psychopath

[rotund ginkgo]

dont see the problem

[oblique trail]

I am 4k

2k*

got no tier from normal clear

[rotund ginkgo]

20s are piss easy

[chrome plover]

catalysed hero shoulders and slammed versa wrists 476

[oblique trail]

I know

[tardy lark]

I’ll prolly just send vers wrists if I’m actually in on mythic

[rotund ginkgo]

its always tanks dying to "omg this did too much unexpected damage" cuz they dont click the mitigation button

[oblique trail]

I've ran with a guild tank and had no issues like that

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah im usually w guild tank

but ive had a couple of...

funny pugs

had a 460 pala do 8k dps overall

: - )

[oblique trail]

oh well it's just gg

I'll put myself a bit behind to make the rest look better in raid

[rotund ginkgo]

true hero

[covert wyvern]

how is that even possible

[rotund ginkgo]

im tryna get 4p before tomorrow's raid so i can look even better

@covert wyvern he was hpal "in his defense"

his highest damage was melees

: - )

it was murokonds rise and he insisted on the last boss the orbs drop on him cuz hes "not ranged"

even tho it's just range based

every1 told him to just stand further back and VIOLA

it worked

[granite tiger]

aha ty

[barren ore]

I've saved our tier set

xD

[past pivot]

I don't think you understand what "saved" means.

[fervent turtle]

could be the original

[median narwhal]

Hey there

Is shadowflame that good? I mean, it makes 1.3% of my DPS at most in MM+

[frosty karma]

with t30 a helm without haste and 10 ilvl wasnt 6k dps gain

its kinda crazy this tier

my fury sim went from 165k to 189 with like 3 items

that didnt have a mixture of crit/haste on it

[eternal sundial]

It's not insane in aoe

It's a St embell

[median narwhal]

Ok right, thx for the info

[wild mural]

[median narwhal]

What was the dungeon?

[wild mural]

BRH 14

[robust leaf]

i think Fury is kinda deadage

[wild mural]

im sorry fury brother if you're in here

[past pivot]

Yes, after 5 days. lol Give this man a prize

[wild mural]

fury is deadge

[willow cradle]

BRH is hella good as fury, did a 17 with 210k overall

[wild mural]

its a shame Im hella bad as fury

[frosty scroll]

furys confirmed by skyhold after 3 days of patch

[humble plover]

Fury in season 3?

[barren ore]

wait until we all run around with the legendary axe

[humble plover]

It'll be like putting diamonds on doodoo

[golden hare]

chat i think fury is dead

[wraith wharf]

probably get a couple of buffs a couple weeks in

[humble plover]

[subtle lagoon]

Buff during the end of the season

[median token]

revvez fury right now, go watch

[past pivot]

On a brighter note, isn't grand being able to macro the celebration firework to almost every ability? 😄

[summer quail]

Not at pc atm but assume smolderon? If so it's coz of the damage amp

[humble plover]

I need to do that lol, right now it's only bound to recklessness

[red berry]

name a better duo then fury players and the sky falling

[wild mural]

chat can I get a rip bozo for fury spec 🤡

[red berry]

L... rip bozo :/

[humble plover]

Rip bozo

[covert wyvern]

fury never die

[sinful spoke]

I feel so bad declining our brothers

[barren ore]

+++17 is not enough to be invited in a +17 key xD people are so stupid

[humble plover]

It's the warrior part not the io

[sinful spoke]

Listen bro i times a 19 and dont get invited to 14s

[barren ore]

who cares, it's a 17

acting like it's 25

[sinful spoke]

They farw

[next canopy]

Guys - where do you go to queue as alliance (when you are horder) for PVP?

[sinful spoke]

Thats why u dont get invited

[humble plover]

Behind the dummy on the right

[next canopy]

In valdrakk?

[humble plover]

Yea. In the dummy/pvp room

[next canopy]

I think it's gone. I don't see anything

[humble plover]

He's behind the dummy on the right

Hmmm

[next canopy]

I think they took it away

If u are in Valdrak check when you can

[humble plover]

At work sadge

[smoky steeple]

what stat focus for gearing ? Mastery Haste ?

[past pivot]

For leveling, w/e you can get

[smoky steeple]

for raid and mm+

[past pivot]

Check the pins and guides

Usually mastery haste tho

But if you're gearing up, ilvl probably wins out over stats

[next canopy]

ty anyway bro!

[hardy crow]

what are the best embellishments?

[past pivot]

Did you check the pins?

[frosty scroll]

any1 have a wa for 2p? to track the empowered bts

[eternal sundial]

grab spell id challenge

[golden hare]

unpossible

[primal bane]

done this will be great

[frosty scroll]

im not the greatest with was, hence why i ask

[stoic dirge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit#gid=1583635048

arms dead not fury 🙂

[wild mural]

Finally the Syi experience for all

[frosty karma]

[sinful spoke]

32 keys guys

guess my ilvl

[olive wraith]

444

[sinful spoke]

close

[mossy fox]

do more keys

[sinful spoke]

imagine getting loot

[hardy crow]

anyone got a weak aura for the new tier set?

[sinful spoke]

what the fuck crit

[olive wraith]

Don’t really need a wa

Bt lights up when there’s tier stacks

[hardy crow]

dope

[gilded pawn]

Turn off nameplate detection

Use damage detection

[restive peak]

Fury is solid, arms is solid

[gilded pawn]

Open with tc

[sinful spoke]

do we know if they updated the spell reflect wa?

keeps saying i can reflect stuff i actually cant

[fiery storm]

crafted gear only goes to 447? just loooking at wowhead shows the crafted items at 447 everythign else is maxed

[subtle lagoon]

486

[frosty scroll]

does any1 know what aoe rotations supposed to look like with new 2p?

[fiery storm]

you shouldnt be using 2pc

unles u dont have t30

[frosty scroll]

i do have t30 4p

thought 2p2p is better though

[fiery storm]

na

but

[frosty scroll]

should sim tho fr

[fiery storm]

yeah thts always best but i dont think its any difference

but let us know!

[wild mural]

no

[frozen tartan]

anyone with 4pc: How does it feel in keys as a fury?

[fiery storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-in-the-nuts-dierks-bentley-gone-song-right-in-the-balls-ouch-gif-19871277

[frosty scroll]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4HAksJSLmjbsiojTmXWcpi

is the difference that big?

or did i sim sum wrong

[alpine flax]

when can we equip 2 piece?

[oblique trail]

when you get 2piece

[fiery storm]

all the nerdlords are saying 4pc idk why ppl r saying 2pc

[alpine flax]

dude...

beause you cant use 2 piece effect

if youre nor using new talents

[fiery storm]

well yeah but i dont think thts why

[past pivot]

You can go 2P but some people are find 2p + 2p inferior to 4P t30 so see for yourself

[wraith wharf]

so get 2 piece and.. switch talents?

[fiery storm]

yeah

go ST/MT ann

[oblique trail]

For raid for sure

Though in keys I'm a bit on the fence ngl

[fiery storm]

all i know is i SLAM my keys and im still trash dps

lmao

[wraith wharf]

honestly i dont really raid, but i get tier in vault i can get 4 piece next week, otherwise ill get it the following week

[fiery storm]

well if you puggged youd get grouped with like 6 other plate/warriors so gl on gear lmao

[wraith wharf]

i helped some friends kill some normal bosses, got gloves

[fiery storm]

lucky

i had a lot of stuff drop for me and lost literally everything lmao

[past pivot]

Just wait till Tuesday and all the people who'll be crying when they find out they used their Catalyst charge and don't get another till the 28th

[wraith wharf]

yep

catalyst + the one token you get for getting high M+ rating or pvp rating ect, so i just need to get lucky

[fiery storm]

wait what? should be saving our catalyst until next week? i was gunna keep mine until i found tier so i know what to use it on lol

[past pivot]

The smart play is save it till you can guarantee 4P.

[wraith wharf]

^

[olive wraith]

Ye you don’t wanna catalyst and then get the piece you converted to drop next week

[fiery storm]

yeah thats actually what i meant. lol

not what i said but haha

[wraith wharf]

honestly the arms 4 piece looks so much funner

[fiery storm]

just crnking executes

[past pivot]

But lots of people used it this week assuming that they'll have another charge next week.

[wraith wharf]

that pop off free thunderclaps that apply rend.. i think

[fiery storm]

i thought we were getting a charge next week

[olive wraith]

Isn’t catalyst 1/week

[wraith wharf]

every 2 weeks, first one was on release

its the trade off for getting it at season start

[past pivot]

^^

[fiery storm]

r we sure about that? i thought it wasa free one then we get another tuesday

[wraith wharf]

so you can get 4 piece just through catalyst faster than season 2

[olive wraith]

That sounds like sparks

I missed the notes that send catalyst every 2 weeks if that’s the case

[past pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/revival-catalyst-available-during-the-first-week-of-dragonflight-season-3-334894

[fiery storm]

yrah by week like 9 youre supp to get full tier

[olive wraith]

That’s pretty lame

Didn’t they lower the drop rate of tier too

[past pivot]

It's actually better in the long run for those who don't have it

[fiery storm]

idk a tier dropped off like everything in my normal raid

[frosty scroll]

do i always wanna spend the bloodbath before i press rampage again, even if i overcap rage?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[frosty scroll]

ok thank u sir

[olive wraith]

Not sure how often that would even happen

[solemn plover]

@oblique trail is fury meta?

[oblique trail]

no you should consider deleting your fury spec because it will never compete with any other spec in the game, it's simply just too bad, not even F tier would be the place

go through the alphabet until you reach the last letter in your languages alphabet and that's the spot that fury is in

[subtle lagoon]

stacc

[olive wraith]

[clever belfry]

[flat river]

Real

[solemn plover]

Thank you! 👍

[split coyote]

I got that snake trinket off Volocross and the way it procs is kinda doodoo. But an upgrade is an upgrade.

[desert cloud]

also slam

just remember that

it goes downhill from there

[clever belfry]

balls

[compact crater]

Wish me luck on wednesday

[glass kelp]

guys, herodamage or bloodmallet ?

[solemn plover]

thanks augmentatiion man

[sinful spoke]

raidbots

[summer quail]

wtf is herodamage

[oblique trail]

[frosty scroll]

i rarely ever get to press slam with new 2p, is that what its supposed to look like?

[fiery storm]

1k io cant get into any mythics lol

[olive wraith]

That doesn’t sound right

[olive wraith]

You’re using anni?

[frosty scroll]

yes sir

[magic hull]

4p T30 or 2p T31?

[olive wraith]

How do you not have empty gcd without slam

[wild mural]

I have empty GCD's with slam

wtf

[frosty scroll]

i do sometimes

but i press bt and ww way more often

[olive wraith]

I think slam is higher prio than we

Or is this aoe

[frosty scroll]

im trying it out on aoe dummiees

[errant pond]

whats best fury mythic+ trinket

[frosty scroll]

using ww to refresh stacks

[olive wraith]

Idk sounds weird that you feel like you’re not slamming a lot

[frosty scroll]

i do use it ocasionally

but within cds, i find myself rarely pressing it

[olive wraith]

In cds for sure

You can basically loop bb ramp

[frosty scroll]

rotation would look sum like reck > charge > rampage > odyn's fury > roar > bloodbath spam along rampage

correct?

[olive wraith]

Ya seems right

[frosty scroll]

ait

i appreciate u mate, thanks

[sinful spoke]

anyone else got my shit luck

[heady saffron]

that looks alot better than what i got going on then again i havent gotten around to even trying to get into a m+ yet

[olive wraith]

“Shit luck”

[sinful spoke]

Bro i got no trinkets

No weapon

[heady saffron]

408 lariat and 405 puzzle box holdin me down

[sinful spoke]

This is all useless

[chrome plover]

puzzle box

[heady saffron]

(oh i forgot this doesnt show ilvls)

i havent seen a new trinket since coming back

[wild mural]

puzzy buzzy

[olive wraith]

You get a free 463 track from emerald dream stuff

[polar trail]

450 trinket and/or neck from time rifts and dream surges is like 10 mins of work

[heady saffron]

i guess next reset i can buy a time rift trinket 🤔

[fluid minnow]

how far behind is single minded this patch?

[heady saffron]

sim said my 446 neck is worse than the 408 lariat

[buoyant salmon]

sim it

[olive wraith]

Generally it’s like 10% or something

[polar trail]

I’d just bump that ilvl for invites and switch just before key starts or just yolo it

[heady saffron]

👍

[oblique trail]

are you simming it with 0 sockets or 3 sockets

because it makes a very big difference

also groupfinder shows your bag ilvl, not equipped

[heady saffron]

i have no clue probably 0 lol, still need to get ym shit together and change my build too

have 2p / 2p

[sullen basin]

got 3rd set item from lfr next week guaranteed 4set lets fucking goooooooooo 0 wasted charges at the catalyst despite using for 2set as per usual

(maybe monday if we kill tindral)

but head sucks right?

i should just pass on it and get a chest to upgrade at catalyst right

[oblique trail]

At this point there's no reason being picky

[sullen basin]

I'll probably get chest in vault anyway

always had 4set early

[oblique trail]

I bought the head with the 2k score token, since it's hte highest ilvl

[heady saffron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hgybZofssBzBVxhvjQdPy9
sim wants me pressing bloodbath and its gonna be tough to remember to press it over crushing blow

[oblique trail]

And neither I nor the vast majority of people will ahve the luxury of picking tier pieces this early anyway

[sullen basin]

I have the luxury

[heady saffron]

(and still need to swap build but i keep putting it off and forgetting)

[oblique trail]

ok but it's all lower ilvl than mythic anyway

[modest condor]

wtf is that build

[oblique trail]

It's a season 1 build

[heady saffron]

was xpac launch build :s quit halfway thru s1

[modest condor]

well the apl isnt made with that build in mind

so it's gonna do weird things

[heady saffron]

yah it noticed i have 2p and swapped my skills around

to focus on bloodbath

[queen owl]

should i keep 4 tier set or swap for ilvl improvement ? gaining 3-4 ilvls but loosing tier set

[buoyant salmon]

silm r u rank 1 warrior yet

[buoyant salmon]

sim your gear

[modest condor]

im not good enough to ever get rank 1

but i can be rank 1 in your heart

[buoyant salmon]

[heady saffron]

😳

[buoyant salmon]

has compwow had any banger posts i havent been lookin

g

[modest condor]

just check the race to world first thread

full of bangers

[silver mantle]

What's the consensus on the two embellishments? 2xShadowflame or 1 Shadowflame and Wristguards of Companionship?

[buoyant salmon]

started off strong but like

what the fuck is he talking about lol

even if u didnt do splits u still play all day everyday until boss is dead

[heady saffron]

according to #268491842637660160 says 2x patch for st, wristguard / patch for aoe

[keen kindle]

Someone suggested removing the loot lockout on heroic on twitter

[heady saffron]

oof gonna feel weird losing spear of bastion and ravager swapping to this build

[young swan]

you dont lose spear?

[rotund steppe]

dont trust players on whats fun

[heady saffron]

🤷‍♂️

[rotund steppe]

thats for m+?

[heady saffron]

yah

[buoyant salmon]

you played spear in m+ last season?

[heady saffron]

i didnt play last season

[rotund steppe]

spear is for raids

[buoyant salmon]

ah makes sense

[olive wraith]

I too take shockwave on st

[heady saffron]

mainly just been playing open world so far since coming back trying to get back into m+

[young swan]

we stopped running spear in m+ in the back half of s1 i think

[buoyant salmon]

u still do splits to save time

just dont need as many characters

[heady saffron]

giga dump all cd's and super burst early s1 was fun

[clever path]

what to craft troops?

and what embelishments we running this season for m+

[rotund steppe]

i did when my tanks hated me in shadowlands S2

[past pivot]

Scroll up. Like 10 posts above

[heady saffron]

2 t30 2 t31 is the goto atm right?

or was that for specific situation

[mild ravine]

I really miss ancient aftershock

[past pivot]

For some. For others, they’re finding 4p t30 is still better. Try both and see which is better for you.

[heady saffron]

aight cheers ~ currently have 2p 2p so figured id check in again about it

[runic pine]

Just sim it

[summer quail]

ye after the OS buff

[buoyant salmon]

sim it

[summer quail]

when we swapped to am os

[past pivot]

Don’t even sim it. Try a dungeon with 2+2. Try a dungeon with 4p. Compare.

[clever path]

which build i should run with 4p t30 for m+ ?

[past pivot]

Same as always. Why would that change???

[runic pine]

Well clearly because of the talent changes that didn’t happen

[golden dock]

I'm a little confused on the talents. most websites are saying we go annihilator but ugg is saying we don't

[past pivot]

Ah. Tots obvs

[chrome plover]

ugg is based off of what people are actually playing, the majority dont have the tier set yet so it will show the old talents

[clever path]

im starting to play now with fury, don't know too much about the class

[past pivot]

Read the guides. Wowhead has builds for raid and m+ for t30 and t31

[runic pine]

U.gg, like most tools is useful, but it doesn’t matter if you are told what talents to use if you don’t know why they’re being used

[clever path]

ty :))

[young swan]

even before that

[runic pine]

Like you’re not running annihilator without t31

So therefor you don’t run it until then

[glossy apex]

do you switch annihilator when you run 2+2

[runic pine]

So most people will not currently be using it

[glossy apex]

its a bit awkward no?

[runic pine]

Hence why u.gg doesn’t show it

[glossy apex]

kinda need to pick up odyns

[runic pine]

Idk

[wild mural]

ayo

[charred flint]

Should i come back for this patch? skipped the last one

[runic pine]

No

[charred flint]

how bad are we

[runic pine]

If you have to ask the question the answer is no

[charred flint]

i miss raiding but i dont have time for that anymore

my schedule doesnt allownme to know which days i can raid

[next canopy]

I’m sitting this season too

[charred flint]

m+ is kinda cringe ngl

[runic pine]

So then there’s no point in playing

You can’t raid

And you don’t care for m+

[next canopy]

Collect some mogs

[summer quail]

iirc it was theoretically better to run spear before that in m+, it's just super aids to run so alot didn't

[runic pine]

And your predication on coming back is if we perform well or not

[gusty cloak]

what are we spending sparks on?

[charred flint]

nah idc just curious

[young swan]

we're like

fine

not great

not terrible

gonna be better when lego is acquired

[runic pine]

You don’t have any days that you can raid?

Like not even Sunday or something

One day a week guilds do exist

[charred flint]

i can theoretically raid all days and no days lmao

i work with film production

sometimes i shoot tuesdays sometimes i shoot sundays

[runic pine]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred flint]

theres just no way of knowing

time to graduate in something new

[runic pine]

I’d just find a low commitment guild in terms of days and just miss if you have to miss

Like what are the odds you have to miss several weeks in a row on a weekend if it’s a one day a week guild or something?

Seems like it’s so random the odds are pretty good for you not having to miss all that often if it’s a one day a week guild tbh

[fading bane]

legendary wep is gonna be 50% dps

[charred flint]

pretty high last guild i was in i missed like 5 days in a row

when we were killin rasz

gladly they gave me the kill after it

[runic pine]

Weekday guild though?

[charred flint]

yea yeah

[runic pine]

Not like i expect you to remember but would it have happened like that if it was weekends at that same timeframe?

[charred flint]

not 5 in a row but it would happen yeah

its just a shit job to have a timed hobby like that

[runic pine]

Fair enough

[heady saffron]

swapping from my early season 1 build to the s3 m+ build my sim went down 2k dps :o

[trim rune]

in keys are you guys running 2pc/2pc or old 4 set?

i dont have new 4 set

[barren dagger]

do you guys spec shattering throw for incorp?

[modest condor]

no

[pallid otter]

is there a new spell refelct wa for keys?

[wild mural]

timmy boost

[cosmic tartan]

coming back from s1, grabbed 2pc of last tier from dreamsurge and rift, cleared normal and got curio but no other tier, should i wait til vault to pick piece and catalyst piece?

[lime basin]

Boys for M+, do we want Slaughtering Strikes or Bloodcraze???

[wild mural]

also

[rigid stirrup]

yo some lowkey tech - spell reflect on that heal absorb add in throne of tides basically one shots it

[clever belfry]

die spear die
die spear die
die spear die
die spear die

[buoyant salmon]

i love spear

[proper cave]

i reflect it on a +20 key and spell reflect did 2mio+dmg. the dot is ticking very hard on this mob

[timid tendon]

Whats the addon for the buttom bosses etc?

[spiral ermine]

which mob?

[errant vessel]

Waycrest Manor Etch reflect is also big

Do you guys use your own plater profile or one of the popular ones on wago? If the latter, which one are you using?

[tardy lark]

Quazi one is good if you can parse the over engineering.

[wild mural]

Uh idk

[crystal radish]

Primal Molten Vambraces is the stuff to craft first ?

[past pivot]

Maybe. Depends on focus. You read the pins for prio?

[crystal radish]

I'm checking again thanks

I'll do mostly m+

[oblique trail]

The Nazjatar Sentinel that casts Crushing Depths

If you reflect it, the dot stays on the mob and ticks for like 100k or something

It's the big naga with a shell on its arm or w/e

[celest sierra]

yo

what should our stats look like this tier

[olive wraith]

Good

[celest sierra]

cool

lol

[fading bane]

more of them than last tier

[celest sierra]

i seee

[narrow narwhal]

Large stats

[olive wraith]

[rocky geyser]

hey guys, im playing 2 2 tiersets in m+ right now. Im having quite some moments when im lacking rage for like 5 rampage-bloodthirst rotations

you guys experiencing someting similar?

[past pivot]

Are you using the right talents? Have you simmed 4P t30 against 2p+2P?

[hidden lily]

hey so i keep seeing different things in different places. are we running tier legs or tier helm. sometimes bis lists have the soulspun casque as helm form atal dazar and some lists have the seared ironwood greaves. Is the difference even that big?

[unreal onyx]

my bday over, time for the most important thing in life: getting declined in m+ pugs for hours on end just to get into a group to deplte a key

[past pivot]

In all seriousness, we don't know for sure. It could be mastery + vers or haste + vers or something weird. All we know is that they should add up to at least 100%

[olive wraith]

?

I’ve got news for you

I’m over 100%

[past pivot]

There you go

[olive wraith]

What

[muted pecan]

what is our best 4pc setup? head/chest/hands/shoulders?

[olive wraith]

Get any combo first

Then sim

[barren dagger]

does thunderous words increase rezan trinket damage?

[oblique trail]

no

[heady saffron]

Based

[wild mural]

Real

[muted pecan]

based on secondary stats in s2 we were crafting legs as example

[olive wraith]

Crafting doesn’t hit max ilvl

Sims are the way

[rocky geyser]

im not talking about 4 0 or 2 2 being better in dps. Im just experiencing a lot off rage deficits

it might be cause of pressing rampage - rampage - BT instead of rampage - BT - rampage - BT

[olive wraith]

We press rampage less generally with t31

We don’t have high reck uptime

[muted pecan]

oh yes craft is only 486 sad, not 489 so 3ilvl less

[ebon shore]

how accurate are websites like wowhead with BiS gear and such?

or is this completely troll

[fiery storm]

what are our best sock slots?

mastery/vers?

[olive wraith]

Assuming you have all those it’s fine. But that’s not always the case

Just sim

Sim

[ebon shore]

ah ok, im just trying to farm some gear i guess and was looking which dungeons i should be farming

[rocky geyser]

blackrookhold had a lot of great pieces for me personally :p

[olive wraith]

Just sim all dungeons

Chances are each dungeon will have at least one upgrade

[edgy widget]

Ava coming too quick, delay another GCD or 2

At least, ideally put it in last GCD of EM

[humble plover]

Y'all see the news? Maybe spear will be better finally lol

[olive wraith]

?

[edgy widget]

There’s been no change to spear yet

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure spear was always ahead on st

[edgy widget]

He’s talking about the intended visual changes to cov abils

[olive wraith]

Oh lol

[somber elk]

can i also use avatar before odyns?

[olive wraith]

Don’t

[edgy widget]

You should not

Or you’re wasting CDR

[somber elk]

can you explain why?

ah sure

ty

[olive wraith]

You wanna send Of on cd

[edgy widget]

Cause you can’t get CDR on an ability that’s not on CD yet

[humble plover]

Yeah this is what I mean. I'm sure they'll change it at some point if they're doing the others

[ebon shore]

how do i sim dungeons?

[olive wraith]

Raidbots

[atomic depot]

Hello fellow Fury warriors. Coming back from T29… may I ask if you guys would drop the tier set and just go with item level upgrades?

[olive wraith]

From t29? Most likely

Sim will know for sure but t29 was like ilvl 420?

[atomic depot]

I was thinking so too…. The extra stats are prob way more worth it

Yeap

[olive wraith]

Plus the tier wasn’t that strong either

[atomic depot]

I guess execute isn’t the coolest kid on the block anymore

Thank you!

[olive wraith]

Fury execute isn’t strong compared to arms

[rotund steppe]

man wtf

this shit making me depressed

[subtle lagoon]

[thick fossil]

I will never understand why they thought Aug voker was a good idea.

[olive wraith]

I like the idea of a support class

In practice James dumb

[edgy widget]

nothing in that screenshot is the issue of Aug though, just DH MT is grossly OP atm

[subtle lagoon]

I was going to say the same

[frank dawn]

Reworked class being busted. shockedpikachu

[subtle lagoon]

I've been in groups with BM and DH and they just pump

[frank dawn]

After all the nerfs to Aug tho, like yes it’s still really good. But idk outside of high m+ I’m not sure it’s any better than most other good classes.

And high m+ has always had classes that are clearly the best, and it always will be that way

[stiff monolith]

is it worth keeping 4set with 424 from s2 or should i break it, keep 2set with 2 450s and swap the other 2 424s to 470s? sim says that 4set sims 5k dps higher but is that really true? (no pieces from tier season 3 yet, unluck)

[olive wraith]

I just wish it wasn’t incorp week 1

[past pivot]

I don’t understand that screenshot above. The Augvoker is being blamed for the DH being a better DPS??

[olive wraith]

It’s just a hateboner for Aug

[frank dawn]

Did you sim the 2/2 with the annihilate talents?

[supple kettle]

Is it me or is fury 4pc m+ build just better than arms 4pc m+ build simming higher on both ST and in aoe with both correct stats any thoughts?

I have to be getting stats wrong on arms

[frank dawn]

Fury does sim slightly better on paper I’m pretty sure, and fury aoe flows better

With the new tier

[supple kettle]

Hm

[frank dawn]

Arms still has the execute and obviously 2 target advantage tho

[stiff monolith]

i dont have new 2set yet, maybe i phrased it wrong, i meant break season 2 4set for 50 ilvls higher gear with keeping only 2set from last season

[supple kettle]

HM

[frank dawn]

Oh I gotcha. Yeah tier bonuses are really powerful for fury. So it makes sense it wants you to keep it

[supple kettle]

ima have to sim every dungeon route

[frank dawn]

You can generally trust the sim

[olive wraith]

Arms generally has better uncapped afaik

Fury 5 target is pretty good. But once the mob size starts going past that it skews arms way I think

[supple kettle]

I sent all 20s with both arms and fury 4pcs they overall kinda tied

Missing just everbloom as arms

[olive wraith]

Oh this is dungeon slide?

Slice

It’s not that accurate I believe

[supple kettle]

I did sim DS but also compared 8 target sims for both

[frank dawn]

They’ve done a lot of work on dungeon slice, but no sim is ever going to be that great for comparing dungeons imo

Depends so much on how your group pulls too and what level you’re at

[tiny flame]

so what is the best way to sim for M+ then

[supple kettle]

Route

Sim the route I mean sorry

[olive wraith]

8 target for what duration

[stiff monolith]

i see, i kinda refused to believe it but i guess its true, thanks for the info

[supple kettle]

1 min

Thinking of a fort pull

[tiny flame]

is that a paid option? I dont see a way to sim a route

[frank dawn]

I think a mix of hectic add cleave and dungeon slice would give you at least a reasonably accurate result

[tiny flame]

I been using Dungeon slice as I thought it was the way... ok I'll try those ones thx

[supple kettle]

Didn’t think of 2 target cleave tho I’ll keep that in mind might be swapping arms or fury depending on dungeons and if fort or tryan

[frank dawn]

Dungeon slice is good. I was just meaning to say there are A LOT of variables in any given m+ dungeon

[past pivot]

Which dungeon matches the profile of dungeon slice????

[stark brook]

nobody takes warrios over 16

wtf

[past pivot]

It has nothing to do with warrior. Every dps spec has same issue, Even Augvoker gets turned down in pugs. Too many people, too few slots

[olive wraith]

Mostly sure. But warriors are extra down this week

Also I don’t think Aug gets denied

[rotund steppe]

nah aug its still free pass

[past pivot]

Dungeon slice isn't considered very good. Can just use top gear and modify it. Use M+ gear and talents, turn off buffs you don't see in keys and go for 4-5 mobs at varying lengths. 40-60-90 seconds and compare and contrast. Fury warrior dps profile is pretty similar between ST and MT.

[hard widget]

I can safely say thats not true

[olive wraith]

For pugs?

[past pivot]

It does. I mained an Aug. Legendary with 3k Io last season and sometimes too many. Or a 3.2 k io would beat it out.

[olive wraith]

So you were denied cause higher Aug was available?

[rotund steppe]

tbh next week people are gonna stack 3 dhs in ther m+´lmao

[past pivot]

or someone beat it to the punch. It happens.

[olive wraith]

That’s not the same as Aug don’t get invites

[past pivot]

Then show some hard data proving warriors don't get invited to pugs. Not "I applied to a pug 15 and wasn't invited. Man, no warrior must ever get an invite."

[grave path]

Does anyone have the current spec comparison DPS spreadsheet?

[rotund steppe]

tbh if i wanna do a key that isnt mine its 30-45 mins of applying

too many people few slots

and betweet taking a warrior or a rogue/dh the decision its clear

[full portal]

Yes, have years of peer-reviewed research whenever you want to say something

[left perch]

Idk man, I get hella invites on my aug and never did on my warrior. I didn’t set up a Tableau dashboard to prove it tho.

[olive wraith]

Looking through groups and I see fewer warriors than other classes

I’m obv not tallying up every class

[past pivot]

Yes. But I bet your warrior did get invites and there may have been times the evoker didn't.

[olive wraith]

Cap

[covert blaze]

how would you even have hard data of that lol

[rotund steppe]

cap x2

[left perch]

Anecdotally, my aug is like 95% invite rate and the warrior was queue simulator.

[past pivot]

Exactly.

[rotund steppe]

keep in mind that its also incorporeal week

[covert blaze]

delusional

[left perch]

If I want to do a key, I do one. S1 I waited a good bit, then did one.

[rotund steppe]

and we have almost nothing to fight it

and dh has their sap every idk how much secs

[left perch]

Aug can do incorp AND it can double duty the other one

[rotund steppe]

wait it can?

nice

[olive wraith]

I’m sure warriors do get invited. But at face value if you told me Aug vs warrior I can confidently say Aug gets more invites

[covert blaze]

there's hard data of aug being played way more than fury at the top end, you think that doesn't trickle down to getting invited to pugs?

[past pivot]

Yes but that's not what we're saying

[oblique trail]

Warrior can do Incorp as well, albeit on a 3 min cooldown

[left perch]

Yea expurge + caut flame

[oblique trail]

Which is every 2nd Incorp spawn

[olive wraith]

Incorp and afflicted weeks are down bad for warrior

[full portal]

That's exactly what we're saying

[past pivot]

People are saying warriors never get invites period

[olive wraith]

Warriors get far fewer invites

[left perch]

I’m not here to say which class is better I’m just saying: I get invites now, and I didn’t used to. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rotund steppe]

same

[past pivot]

No one is saying it's warriors vs evokers. That's a lost battle.

[rotund steppe]

last season it was way easier to get invites

this is the pure difference between a dh and a warrior

[past pivot]

We're not even a week into the season lol

[covert blaze]

you are taking that too literally for the sake of being a contrarian

pretty cringe

[left perch]

I mean shoot my fdk got invited quicker than warrior did

[oblique trail]

DH is broken but that disparity is more than just DH vs Warrior

[rotund steppe]

bonzai dont help me ;_;

[past pivot]

Not as cringe as the doomers saying warriors can't get into pugs because they're warriors.

[olive wraith]

It’s worse than last season by a mile

[oblique trail]

It's been 4 days since season started

[olive wraith]

Is it really incorp next week too

[oblique trail]

It's too early to really say anything though

The groups are getting flocked to the brim with people (usually) who want to do keys

[obsidian jackal]

which one is actually the better performer?

[oblique trail]

You have no idea what you're queuing against, what their ilvl is, spec is, score is

[olive wraith]

True it’s week 1. Doesn’t change the fact it’s taking a really long time to get accepted

[rotund steppe]

as people said

too many people

too few slots

[frank dawn]

Yeah I mean you make a group and you have 20 dps signed up in the first minute

[oblique trail]

Like if you are in a group with a healer/tank or both, you will see yourself how quickly DPS will queue to your group

[rotund steppe]

its insane yeah

if it wasnt cuz my guildmates i would still be in +12

im clearing +18 now

[frosty scroll]

i cant lie, new 2p feels like ass in m+

[frank dawn]

I’ve gotten invited to a few pug 16s, but it’s taken 20 minutes or so usually

[vernal stump]

anybody else having probelms with wep drops? 2 weeks of dream stuff and easily 30+ keys in and ive not seen a single wepaon drop......and that sin additon to raid finder and normal raid run this week

[oblique trail]

2p does not feel good, but 4p should feel better

[frosty scroll]

ye 4p looks crisp

2p however aint it

[oblique trail]

if you're willing to I'd just go Arms until you have 4p in keys

[rotund steppe]

gnarlroot dropped 3 weapons in my raid 1st week lmao

[frank dawn]

Sims showed the old 4pc and raging blow build was also better than any 2pc combo for fury iirc

[noble elm]

Unless you’re a “meta” class/spec if you wanna push past like 15 you’re gonna need a guild or push your own key. Literal dozens of people queue and you can’t fault people for going with the safe bet

[oblique trail]

It took me 40+ keys to see a weapon drop that was tradable

[rotund steppe]

do this, arms feel way better than fury for now

[oblique trail]

Some people are just unlucky

[frank dawn]

This is why I always wait to see if I need to craft a weapon on Tuesday lol

[vernal stump]

I havent seen a single 2 hander drop...period.

[oblique trail]

Keep farming and eventually you'll see one

[vernal stump]

if I had known drops woudl be this bad id have held on to my first spark too lol

[oblique trail]

It took me 14~ ADs to see a singular Rezan eye drop

[olive wraith]

Idk seems like people just want classes than can deal with incorp

On their own

[oblique trail]

Warrior can (mostly)

[olive wraith]

On their own?

[rotund steppe]

i mean i always look for that too lmao

[oblique trail]

On their own very few can

[rotund steppe]

im part of the problem

[oblique trail]

But warrior can deal with incorp

[frank dawn]

Incorp and Afflicted week do suck as a pug warrior. It’s dumb but there’s nothing you can do about it for now

[oblique trail]

Just not both

[olive wraith]

We can help with every other

[vernal stump]

war can interrupt and stun but they just start casting again.

[oblique trail]

no

shattering throw kills them

[olive wraith]

And emergency stop a few times

Shattering throw is 3mins is it not

[oblique trail]

it is

[frank dawn]

A 3 minute cooldown isn’t really dealing with it lol

[oblique trail]

but it's every 1:30 min they spawn

[oak bear]

ok u dealt with incorp, 5 aoes went off ur ded

[oblique trail]

you are speaking as if

you are theo nly person in the group?

[olive wraith]

Isn’t it 45 seconds

[oblique trail]

that's wrecking throw

[olive wraith]

Incorp spawn I mean

[oblique trail]

no

[noble elm]

It’s not like you lose a lot to take shattering

[rotund steppe]

they should have made wrecking the one that kills incorp

[oblique trail]

unless my WA is dogshit

whichever way

[rotund steppe]

it would have been cool

[oblique trail]

just pick shattering

you lose literally nothing picking it

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure they come faster than int shout cd

[brittle crow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-animations-for-covenant-talents-coming-in-patch-10-2-5-336240#comments

they could fix spear...

🥺

[frank dawn]

Incorp can spawn every 45 seconds but it’s not guaranteed to spawn each time

So sometimes it will skip

And then it’s also random if 1 or 2

[oblique trail]

then I'm tripping

whichever way

[rotund steppe]

isnt mob amount based?

[oblique trail]

Warrior has a means to deal with it

Without giving up much

[frank dawn]

Hmm that I don’t know

[olive wraith]

Not every single spawn

[oblique trail]

Is it shit that it's 3 min? Ye kinda

but

you can still do something about it in pugs

when they're omega unreliable

[olive wraith]

I take menace for that

But still

[oblique trail]

Menace

Is such a troll talent

[olive wraith]

It’s fine trust

[oblique trail]

I mean

you're not in my keys

so I don't really care

but I can't recommend picking Menace

[olive wraith]

Y

[rotund steppe]

if we could fear both it would be cool

but since we cant

[olive wraith]

Same cost as throw

[oblique trail]

The issue is that Menace also affects Intim shout as a whole

And instead of making Intim shout a quick 5 target stop, you make it a knockback

[olive wraith]

Opportunity cost

Incorp help every 1.5 mins or aoe stop

[rotund steppe]

after some dumb ass evokers and druids my runs would not have any difference

[olive wraith]

The anount of bad typhoon or sham storm I’ve seen

[oblique trail]

Yeah well you can't influence randoms and how they play

But you can influence your own

[olive wraith]

It’s not like menace displaces things as much as storm

[oblique trail]

This week though in particular it's either fine or omega grief

[olive wraith]

In my experience incorp doesn’t really spawn inside mobs

[oblique trail]

Because of Sanguine

[rotund steppe]

true tho

can be nice or like using spear in sanguine week

[olive wraith]

Stand in sanguine and press

[left perch]

Shockwave first to be safe

[rotund steppe]

grab 8 mobs

[olive wraith]

Shockwave spear then menace

[rotund steppe]

wait til 1 is about to die

spear

[left perch]

“guys it’s a 16 we’ll time it just lets pad a bit my CDs were up”

[rotund steppe]

lol

[tepid lily]

gnarlroot pog

[olive wraith]

I’m stealing this

I Fukn love gnarlroot

It’s the zaqali of the raid

[rotund steppe]

tru

[sullen wagon]

The 35% exec burn is so good for both arms and fury it's insane

I'm surprised this arms did so few damages tbf

[olive wraith]

I’m assuming this is t30?

Amrav pumps this fight

[cedar edge]

had a very similiar gnarlroot lol

[rotund steppe]

huh

[sullen wagon]

These arms are cooked wtf

[ionic belfry]

hey i want to do mouseover macro with ravenger and spear of bastion but dont work and y dont now how to fix

[olive wraith]

Nah

[humble plover]

I padded so hard on gnarlroot lmao

Good fight

[olive wraith]

Arms just loses more st for taking mt talents

[cedar edge]

fr

[ionic belfry]

someone have?

[sullen wagon]

You don't need MT talents as arms on this, just warbreaker, and even then, not even necessary

[olive wraith]

How do you pad the ads then

[summer quail]

don't need to, arms pumps the boss

[sullen wagon]

You just sweep

[sullen wagon]

This ^

Fury can pad

[olive wraith]

Then of course their number is gonna be lower

[left perch]

no ebon might no prescience??

[rotund steppe]

good

[gusty cloak]

what did you guys use your sparks on?

[unreal onyx]

i'll craft bracers first

then cloak

[errant vessel]

I did cloak because I want to keep cr

[main palm]

Neck then bracer

[young swan]

lariat is not a good craft early

[past pivot]

Neck? Why not cloak??

[cedar edge]

i thought lariat been ass for a while

[chrome plover]

it's pretty good with sockets

[summer quail]

last season shadowflame was just too good, not that lariat was ass

[chrome plover]

or shadowflame was less ass, and lariat was also ass

cos embellishments are kinda as...

[summer quail]

ye but i mean shadowflame got nerfed by alot and we still run 1-2

[main palm]

Idk I just like neck and I’ve loads of sockets

[past pivot]

so much early season gear loaded with sockets

[errant pond]

best craft for fury?

[young swan]

cloak or wrists

[errant pond]

which wrists the allied or just shadowflame

[young swan]

I'm leaning towards allied

[cedar edge]

personally i went shawl (cloak) w shadowflame. And old vers wrists

[young swan]

better on aoe, slightly more survivability, virtually the same on st

[errant pond]

@young swan the allied bracers?

[young swan]

correct

[errant pond]

ok ill craft em thanks

[young swan]

np

[dry halo]

Man actually thinking of swapping to arms.

4 set feels fun when you have recklessness but without it fury becomes weird

[wispy thistle]

can you spell reflect yazma?

[whole pier]

anyone know if rezan gleaming eye is sim bait?

or is it actually good

[past pivot]

It's great if it it existed

[whole pier]

lol

i heard people say its only about a 20% uptime and some people barely getting even a proc

[olive wraith]

It’s pretty good

2-4% in keys

More for st

[barren dagger]

i got 7% off it last key

[vocal gyro]

yeah rezans go kinda crazy and ive done like 10 dungeons with it

[barren dagger]

but was murozond's fall

[covert blaze]

you combined both dungeon names

[cedar edge]

Weast

[errant pond]

can you remove an embellishment from a crafted piece?

[past pivot]

You can but it can also lose ilvl doing so

[errant pond]

I got my new wrists but I forgot about the fuckin old embellisments

[fading sky]

yes

its a non issue

buy griftahs something something

and u can remove it with a crafting order

[honest ivy]

i didn't realize this was open already

wowzers

fun patch!

[past pivot]

Yes but you only get 2 a month. Save till 4p

[honest ivy]

makes sense

good to know!

[heady saffron]

i'm such a lil bitch lol, havent done a dungeon in a year and cant bring myself to even queue for a +4

[sudden tusk]

dk > : (

[honest ivy]

Warrior & DK = most fun classes to me haha

[kindred grail]

Guys is worth that i burn my Free tier token on the catalyst on a piece of gear to have 2p or shall i wait next week drop to get 4p possibly i don't know if 4p is that much better gear compare says it's no dps increase

[past pivot]

4p

[kindred grail]

Okai but

How much 4p is better ?

[past pivot]

no but 4p > 2P

[kindred grail]

Yes but how much bcs i can wait for a 2percent upgrade meanwhile i missing out on higher gear for pushing

I mean i don't know how much better is 4p actualy can't work that out

[obsidian jackal]

is it worth to spend my catalclyst on normal gear just to get 2p? or wait for reset and see whats in the vault

maybe it drops something that can be a heroic tier