fury

[chrome plover]

yeah fuck that honestly

[short spire]

wait

the tank has to be alliance?????????

[chrome plover]

arent the bosses the same?

[sullen dove]

they are the same

[rugged blade]

they are the same

the loot is also the same

[short spire]

so it doesnt matter?

[rugged blade]

unless they changed it for m+

but in m0 i got my axe of lothar

[sullen dove]

im just saying if your group lead is alliance the boss you fight is grommash, who is the actual holder of gorehowl, so its like braindead ez to see if the weapon you want comes from that boss

but if group lead is horde, you fight anduin lothar

who i think is holding the 1hand that also drops? but idk

[solar nebula]

Hi guys, where I can find the fury warrio rotation/priority with the new tier set bonus?

[sullen dove]

wowheads prolly best place for basics

and then when you comfy with that more questions can b answered here or maybe jus watch videos/streams of ppl doing content

[short spire]

but it makes sense

since i got the one hand

[sullen dove]

...

do this

dont set loot spec to fury

arms is only 2 handers

fury is 2hand and 1hand

[solar nebula]

and where I can find the spec build for the tier set, wowhead does not show me much

[sullen dove]

?

click that scroll down

and they all there

[rotund steppe]

damn

liquid started mythic today and already at 6/9

[warped bone]

Short tier inc. Unless last 2-3 are very hard

[rotund steppe]

i mean nobody has killed smolderon

[warped bone]

Meanwhile my guild will get there in a few months 😄

[rotund steppe]

also now in the topic

why its smolderon bad now lmao

[short spire]

my guild hasnt even done normal

[rotund steppe]

im on hc

[upper wigeon]

I need to decide if im rolling fury or arms

[rotund steppe]

im arms until i get tier

and depending how it goes ill go fury or arms

[upper wigeon]

i got 3 pieces so far

[rotund steppe]

tho i beat a guy 3 ilvl lower than me but he was 2 set

i was arms he was fury

[short spire]

i beat arms with 2p

[rotund steppe]

so id if fury=bad or he was bad

yeah prob he was bad

[unreal onyx]

smolderon hc is a clusterfuck

at least it was for us

[short spire]

at the end of the day its not what class is better or whats meta its if youre good at the game and your class or not

[flat sapphire]

Does anyone have a good fury warrior tier set weak aura to keep track how many stacks of the buff I have left

[unreal onyx]

if it's that messy on heroic I am afraid of progging it mythic

[rotund steppe]

just count to 3

[unreal onyx]

feels like painsmith 2.0 for a wall in the raid

[flat sapphire]

I can only count to 2

[rotund steppe]

[unreal onyx]

count to 2 then start again and count to 1

[rotund steppe]

lmao

[flat sapphire]

true

[rotund steppe]

prob theres one of the warrior WA with tier tracking

[flat sapphire]

sad dont have my nitro anymore

[rotund steppe]

same

but i wont pay for it lmao

[unreal onyx]

asking in #ui-addons-manager might help

[flat sapphire]

yea just wanted to ask here since its for the fury I wanted it

[rotund steppe]

isnt this the off topic channel?

[unreal onyx]

it was until rules got enforced

[rotund steppe]

rip

[unreal onyx]

I miss the frog a lil bit

[rotund steppe]

post it

[unreal onyx]

I got banned once, not risking it again

(it was for the frog)

[rotund steppe]

i remember lmao

[prime charm]

it really dont help in m+ that hunters, dh, rogue leave us in the dust for damage

its a fucking piss take on blizz part

[rotund steppe]

just dont invite them

[deep rock]

https://wago.io/T-mchUEV3

[rotund steppe]

[unreal onyx]

the hunters I encountered in m+ so far were all dogwater bad

boomies pumping tho

[rotund steppe]

most of them same

[unreal onyx]

now that you say it, I haven't played a key witha rogue yet

[flat sapphire]

Our boomie have 4 set already

[rotund steppe]

most of em then i got into a BDG splitt M+

left me in the garbo

tho they carried my key so its

[unreal onyx]

I still need to play 2 dungeons

and upgrade a 13 I have to at least a 16

[rotund steppe]

i have done over 15 dungeons this week

finally got my 1st 16 done

now i got a 17 claustrophobic manor

[flat sapphire]

ive done 5

[unreal onyx]

I played 6 and timed 5

[flat sapphire]

12 is my highest and it was my first ever key

[rotund steppe]

the only dungeons i hate are the dawn ones

[unreal onyx]

wait, no I did 8, timed 5

[past pivot]

ToT

Sucks

[unreal onyx]

i did a ++18 Tott

[flat sapphire]

I started playing mage cause we needed mage for our raid team but I went into everbloom and i havent touched my mage since

[shy knot]

Tf

[flat sapphire]

Now im back at warrior

[unreal onyx]

still need to do DT and atal

and up my galakrond from 13

[rotund steppe]

atal is so ez

[unreal onyx]

vault looking good enough for week 1

[rotund steppe]

yeah

[unreal onyx]

surely I get gorehowl in my 18 slot

[rotund steppe]

i just want tier lmao

or signet

[unreal onyx]

I got heroic signet on our smolderon kill

2 dropped even

[rotund steppe]

mine got ninjaed

[flat sapphire]

I need tier pieces too

[unreal onyx]

im still proud 1p user

I got hc shoulders

[flat sapphire]

I got the incandecent soulcleaver from the raid

idk if its too good for us

[unreal onyx]

it is a weap

[flat sapphire]

but Its better than my old weapon

[unreal onyx]

so it's good

[rotund steppe]

its good

[unreal onyx]

I got that one on nm too

[flat sapphire]

I had 437 weapon and it is 460 os yea

[unreal onyx]

idk what to upgrade with my heroic tokens first

[flat sapphire]

yea got nm on it

but I also got the hearthstone so im truly the better player

[unreal onyx]

I can upgrade nm weap, which simmed the highest insta-upgrade but it's still a nm weap

[cloud grove]

guys I have a question should I wait for 4P before equipping any of my new tiers or should I do something like 2P + 2P? and what talent should I use in case of second option?

[unreal onyx]

or I upgrade my heroic shoulders that I am not even using yet

[flat sapphire]

2p + 2p im pretty sure is better

but sim it

[cloud grove]

thanks

[unreal onyx]

I also got non-tier heroic gloves that I can catalyze

[cloud grove]

i'm not sure about talents tho

[unreal onyx]

so I could go 2p2p

[cloud grove]

2p forces me into odyn's fury

[unreal onyx]

yes

and aberrus set forces you into cshb almost

[rotund steppe]

i catalyzed some champion tier gloves ;_;

[unreal onyx]

bruh

[rotund steppe]

me is dum dum

[unreal onyx]

I am so unsure if I should catalyze my heroic gloves now already to get 2p

[gleaming crag]

playing click to apply simulator is dog shit

[unreal onyx]

or wait until vault in case I get myth track gloves

[rotund steppe]

wait til vault

[past pivot]

Lots are saying no. 4p T30 > 2+2 but, yeah, sim question

[rotund steppe]

if you get wait til you get another tier then go intant 4p

[unreal onyx]

I can open my vault on friday

business trip

I swear they plan them on every tier release

[flat sapphire]

I simmed and I gained like 5k more dps doing 2p 2p

[rotund steppe]

get a laptop

[unreal onyx]

I was also away at the start of s2

[unreal onyx]

ST or MT

[flat sapphire]

st

[past pivot]

So many people are going to be triggered next week when they realize they have no Catalyst charge ....

[unreal onyx]

you don't get one next week?

[rotund steppe]

nope

[unreal onyx]

holy moly

[past pivot]

Every 2 weeks

[rotund steppe]

every 2 weeks

[unreal onyx]

glad I didn't catalyze my gloves yet

we'll kill tindral on sunday so I just hope for a helm there

surely it will drop AND I will get it

[past pivot]

That's why advice is wait till 28th to hope to guarantee 4p. Unless you can get it beforehand

[unreal onyx]

is heroic fyrakk a lot harder than nm?

[gleaming crag]

just get it 2nd raid night

[unreal onyx]

how much did you pay

[past pivot]

Jus6t get an avatar

[gleaming crag]

0

[unreal onyx]

aintnoway your raid prios fury for 4p

[rotund steppe]

gaslighting god

[gleaming crag]

I actually do arms mostly for raid

[unreal onyx]

aintnoway your raid prios arms for 4p

[gleaming crag]

we are a shitty aotc like 5 weeks+ into the tier guild

[unreal onyx]

I wonder if we can kill fyrakk on sunday

[rotund steppe]

we prob gonna get aotc first month

[unreal onyx]

aotc gives everyone a curio, right?

[rotund steppe]

ye

[eager wraith]

Aotc way harder now after fyrakk buff

[rotund steppe]

good

i heared it was piss easy

[unreal onyx]

we could've gotten to fyrakk if people didn't troll on smolderon

also a epic gamer fact: the beams on tindral at the start of the flying intermission still 1-shot you when you fly through them

(I didn't know)

[rotund steppe]

lol

[unreal onyx]

getting there

[coarse nest]

Is it AOTC or KSM for the curio or can you get one from each?

[fickle bluff]

or

[deep niche]

Or 1600 rating in pvp

[compact knot]

the pvp one seems free tbh

[left perch]

1600 is hardly trying yea

I guess ksm is too lol

[solar nebula]

where can I find proper AEO rotation for fury war? with the new tier set.

In the wowhead it is not clear for AOE, the priority

[fast mural]

ST rotation but WW is prio if its off cooldown

[solar nebula]

ST rotation as per wowhead? you sure?

doesnt feel right for aoe

[clever path]

I have 2-set 464 in bags, plus 2* 450 items, and still my 441 4-set sims better. Disheartening....

[lavish sage]

so is signet actually good or what

[glass quarry]

what is the bis for every slot

can someone tell me where i can see that

[lavish sage]

[flat sapphire]

I rather have new set tho I like it

[lavish sage]

[flat sapphire]

fun in m+

[glass quarry]

pins are guides not the gear

[young swan]

wowhead has an m+ bis and a raid bis but not a combination of the two

[glass quarry]

its ptr so

[young swan]

if u want pure bis go look at the t31 warrior profile on simulationcraft.org

[viral maple]

ST rotation but press whirlwind as every 5th gcd, i.e. always have the whirlwind buff

[clever path]

yes it does

[young swan]

oh look at that

dont think it used to

[clever path]

thats true

[deep niche]

Do you sim with new build?

[proven obsidian]

@young swan

I miss u bestie

[young swan]

[gilded pawn]

xan

can i get a boost

on my rogue

[young swan]

hmm

no

[gilded pawn]

why not

[young swan]

because i said so

[wild mural]

I’m fully given up on keys

My RL will yell at me for not doing any but

Who cares

[upper wigeon]

no invites?

[wild mural]

I get declined for 8s

No one joins my key except shitters

[left perch]

damn

[wild mural]

And I ask in guild for a group and no one responds

[upper wigeon]

i feel i feel

[left perch]

I been +2-3 upgrading mine and insta invites

[wild mural]

So can’t say I’m not trying to

[left perch]

(aug player detected)

[desert cape]

what's your ilvl?

[wild mural]

454

[desert cape]

weird - you shouldn't be getting declined that much

[wild mural]

I’m only 800 io atm tho, was 2800 last season and 9/9m

[fast mural]

the only key i get invited to is BRH and im not sure why

[verbal kestrel]

mythic+ is the worst thing to happen to this game, metaslaves have absolutely ruined this game

[desert cape]

1000% agree

[wild mural]

So true

[fast mural]

its not a problem of m+ its the problem that people want to get boosted

[desert cape]

nah - the scoring system is the issue

[fast mural]

also incorp week for warr is a dead week for us

[wild mural]

Yep

[fast mural]

hard to get into keys

[wild mural]

Were the only class that can’t deal with it right?

[fast mural]

we can deal with it once every 3 min

[wild mural]

Oh

Of course

Shattering throw

[fast mural]

its useless the cast is longer than the cast the incorps are doing

[wild mural]

Yep

[fast mural]

i still take it cause people like to tunnelvision bosses

[sudden tusk]

@hallow sphinx 📘 📕 📗 📙 🔖 📑 📓

[gilded pawn]

only problem is that warrior class points is kind of tight now

you need 2 cf

[glad plover]

after playing M+ today, I can say that this will simply not work in dungens, playing with 2T feels awful compared to 4t from last season, and it also performs worse.

[forest rose]

this legendary better make us OPAF 😄

[glad plover]

it wont, Odyns Fury is just sad ability not worthy of being pressed

that is biggest problem

[gaunt scarab]

hi guys sometime can tell me if the Dreambound Augment Rune is link to account or not ?

someone*

[winged vale]

Once you unlock it on one character it's unlocked on the others, you just need to fork out the 100k on each character

[fiery thorn]

hey boys im confused on what to do with 2pc/2pc since i'm holding 4set for mid mythic bosses, the wowhead guide says both Fury Warriors will not change their builds or playstyles until acquiring their full T31 set bonuses. and Fury Warriors should replace their current tier set items as soon as two and four piece bonuses can be made. In other words, get it as soon as possible. but the new 2piece doesn't do anything without odyn's fury? or does "two AND four piece" mean 4set, the wording is confusing

[heavy terrace]

Im having same problem

[deep niche]

It means you change build to anih when you have new 2p

[heavy terrace]

I tried the anniholater build i cant get used to it pretty much hate it..

[deep niche]

This is how we will play this and next season

[heavy terrace]

Ok done with it then Just using old tier

[deep niche]

Well you will not use old tier whole season

[heavy terrace]

But what do you prefer

This or the old

Have a feeling i miss 2 atacks and im stuck

[upbeat plume]

how do you miss attacks?

[heavy terrace]

I dont know mate tried the rotation but yeah its frustrating for me

[upbeat blade]

Hit a dummy dummy

[upbeat plume]

pretty much the only major change is not insta smashing rampage but adding a filler ability (usually unempowered bt) to keep the rotations smooth

[solar nebula]

So you are saying that execute is higher prior than odyns fury? in aoe?

[heavy terrace]

Just not happy with the change thats all..

[deep niche]

Well you cant make all happy

[glass quarry]

wich embelishments and crafted gear we do?

[deep niche]

Check pins

[solar nebula]

guys, quick question. When burstin in aoe situations, should i really follow this priority? thunder and execute should be used prior to odyns fury?

[glad plover]

Once you get used to rotation it gets better, but still we are outperformed in everything right now, this needs change, and I do not understand how this left PTR honestly.

[clever path]

You got 4 set?

[glad plover]

no, 2 set for now

[clever path]

Then the spec youre playing isnt complete

[dry holly]

are you doing mythic prog right now or heroic?

[glad plover]

Done normal, going Heroic this week

[glad plover]

In my opinion and correct me if I am wrong tier set should add to the set not "complete" it. Last season build worked well without tier set

[clever path]

The talents you take is based around yhe tierset. So yes it does complete it.

[dry holly]

that's not always how tiers and talents work

4p is a very significant upgrade for fury over 2p2p

but i'm not struggling in 4p t30 gear to be relevant in my group, and with any luck at all, i'll be 4p t31 on reset and reclear

[clever path]

^^^

You really should be arms until you get 4 set with all the baseline buffs arms got

[pallid storm]

Should I stick with 4p in M+ or go 2p2p?

[clever path]

4p t30

[proud ice]

hi can a hl fury war can chat for 2 mins , no vocal , just need a few pointers

[hallow sphinx]

i saw you lol, i was being picky cause im prot prison rn

[fiery storm]

man its crazy how much more dps another warr will do when youre like 10 ilvls lower lmao

[fiery storm]

wowhead says break your 4pc the second you can with 2pc

[fiery storm]

dont we want to avatar before reck?

[solar nebula]

I took this list from wowhead, I do not know what is correct now

does someone have a proper site where I can find rotation and priority list for fury with 4 piece set?

[fiery storm]

t31 4pc or t30 lol

[solar nebula]

t31 4pc

[fiery storm]

jeese your luck is nuts eh lol

[solar nebula]

so? you know where to find proper info? wowhead does not look right

[clever belfry]

I'm sorry

[clever path]

Show me where

[untold moth]

wowhead doesn tlook right cause fury is giga-ass in 10.2, warm up on arms or reroll. Yellow and Purple lookin real good

[severe pine]

What's the difference in damage between having no tier at all, and having t31 4p?

[clever path]

Big

[fiery storm]

word im feeling this

[severe pine]

Big like...20%?

[untold moth]

30% but only against teh talents you woudl use only with the tier

[severe pine]

Ah, I guess what I want to know is the difference between the t30 build no tier pieces vs t31 4p in that case.

[untold moth]

complicated... sounds like SIM work to figure that out

[primal plover]

we only avatar before reck because lf how berserlers torment talent worked wouldnt give bonus duration.

now we dont take that talebt reck before ava so ava gains double rage from reck

[untold moth]

well, also cause the bug is fixed

so if ur in T30 still, u can do either order

[rain sierra]

do we break 4 set t30 for two 2sets?

[fiery storm]

got it well with my luck i wont be out of 4pc until like last week of the phase

[fading bane]

you have free 3pc in 2 resets

with 2x catalyst

[cyan creek]

spell reflect essentials have an update for 10.2?

[fiery storm]

how is that 3pc? isnt that 2?

[fading bane]

curve / 2k score

[fiery storm]

wth is curve?

lol

[untold moth]

clearing heroic gets you a tier token

[fiery storm]

OH AHEAD OF THE CURVE . lmao

[untold moth]

getting 2k M+ score is another way to get that token

[fiery storm]

true ok it shouldnt be that bad then ill wait until second reset to change gear cause idk what ill get from raid etc

[snow edge]

2k score next reset is easy enough, technically you can get it right now

[fiery storm]

yeah im at 950 now it shouldnt be hard

[waxen saddle]

Odd question? how do you get t30 gear as a stopgap before t31?

Or would that be a bad idea?

[snow edge]

Don’t think you can now

[fiery storm]

i think its just an impossible idea at this point lol

[waxen saddle]

Mmhmm

[fiery storm]

like its tech not impossible i just think youre never gunna find ppl to do those raids

[waxen saddle]

Use T31 talent build even before getting the tier set?

[untold moth]

no

no please dont do that to urself

[snow edge]

T30 build until at least 2pc

[waxen saddle]

Wait then what talent build shpuld a fresh 70 with no gear use

;-;

[rain sierra]

im 2070 io rn

[untold moth]

T30 but dont use BT prio

since u wont have the stacking crit for it

[waxen saddle]

Aha

[covert blaze]

Can you not turn time rift/dreamsurge gear into t30 anymore?

[rain sierra]

do i switch in break 4 set t30 for 2 set tier 31?

[snow edge]

I don’t know if catalyst still allows it tbh

Worth checking I guess?

[covert blaze]

I'm pretty sure you can

[fiery storm]

idk i read wowhead which seems like it says to break ASAP but after reading it again idk....the person who wrote it did a bad job

[clever belfry]

u can

[covert blaze]

Need to make sure to upgrade to 450 before turning it into tier

[fiery storm]

why

[snow edge]

Where does it say break asap?

[covert blaze]

You cant upgrade it after catalyzing

[waxen saddle]

Okay how do I get time rift or dreamsurge gear then

[fiery storm]

so if i have 441 gloves upgrad the item to 450 minimum before transorming am i hearing that correct?

[covert blaze]

Do a time rift boss and a dreamsurge weekly for their tokens

[waxen saddle]

Aha

Oh wait

Yeah I recognize what dreamsurge is now

I play on a different language so it didn't immediately occur to me

[fiery storm]

"seemed like thats what it said but after reading again IDK" lol ....

[covert blaze]

Not sure what you mean

[fiery storm]

you said to make sure youre 450 b4 using catalyst no? so im asking ..... my total ilvl or the individual item itself

[covert blaze]

Get the 428 gear pieces with the tokens, upgrade them to 450 and then turn them into tier for free

[fiery storm]

got it

[snow edge]

Says to only break at 2pc or 4pc, which is accurate

[fiery storm]

it doesnt say that tho ..... whcih is y i said the person who wrote it , wrote it bad

[snow edge]

It literally does

[fiery storm]

it literally uses the word "and"

so i dont read it that way

[snow edge]

Ok, if that’s your take - no worries

[fiery storm]

"Fury Warriors will not change their builds or playstyles until acquiring their full T31 set bonuses. and Fury Warriors should replace their current tier set items as soon as two AND four piece bonuses can be made. In other words, get it as soon as possible"

that is why i said its written bad ... if it said "or" i agree....and i still think that is what they meant but its 100% not written that way

[snow edge]

?? You are nit picking over an issue that doesn’t exist my dude. I can read that just fine and understand it means replace at 2pc, then 4pc

[fiery storm]

and the first sentence contradicts the second sentence if they want you to break your t30 at 2pc t31 "FURY WARRS WILL NOT CHANGE UNTIL FULL T31" lmao

bruh

i know how to read is all.

[rain sierra]

^

[snow edge]

Wild, free guides that everyone else seems to be able to read / use and you’re having a go at Archi about it

[fiery storm]

who is everyone?????? read this thread ppl r saying to swap at 3pc

4pc**

and i have 3 licenses to practice law pal...i know how to read

i think you're having problems here

[wispy thistle]

It literally says you dont change your build till 4pc

[earnest galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-ba-watchout-whoa-damn-gif-5262512

[fiery storm]

this guy is trolling

[snow edge]

No, I’m not - I understand it just fine, I’ll swap at 2pc then later at 4pc

[abstract hound]

This^

[fiery storm]

i didnt say that to say im a badass im just saying i know how to read .....verbatim says not to change until 4pc LMFAO

[rain sierra]

so dont change build/talents, but equipped two 2 sets?

[untold moth]

oh lord definitely DONT go half way

[abstract hound]

Yes, and

[untold moth]

i think its a very small ST gain to go 2pc/2pc with T31 talents

but its gotta be a loss to go 2pc/2pc with T30

[snow edge]

2pc is new build, like Link is saying

[abstract hound]

[wild mural]

This was t30 4p vs 2/2, I was 2nd

[rain sierra]

lol

[untold moth]

right, theres little reason to go 2/2

and its probably much worse in M+ to go 2/2

[wild mural]

I only went 2/2 to practice the rotation

I’m not exactly gonna rock the world with my dps anyway

[fiery storm]

our specialty is AP buff

[untold moth]

Buff Bot

[wild mural]

That’s all I am reduced to now

[fiery storm]

yeah kinda sad

its rele hard to get into group rn

and i swear i am SLAMMMING these buttons as hard as possible and i cant even crack top 5

[wild mural]

I’m buff bitch for my raid team

Atleast I’ll get a raid spot

Only warrior perks

[fiery storm]

yeah kinda sad out dps atm

[upper wigeon]

Same

[valid moon]

What should we craft?

[wild mural]

This is why I hit the weights to be even more of a buff bitch 💪

[upper wigeon]

Im honestly tempted to try out arms

[fiery storm]

let us know how it goes, lol

[upper wigeon]

well i mean Execute just sounds like a ton of fun

like big Execute crits

[fiery storm]

yeah no i was serious lmao im tempted to do it too

[untold moth]

wait is this the Arms channel now?

[upper wigeon]

[fiery storm]

no but arms talk is directly related to the state fury is in for prog lmao

most beards use arms for prog instead of fury

[untold moth]

thats cuase arms is like top 5 and fury is bottom 5

[fiery storm]

yeah for prog its usually better its typical

idk if this is a arms or fury question but if nobody knows ill throw it in arms: is the arms gear the same for ppl who r stuck in t30 for now?

[hushed arrow]

in my weak aura set from luxthos, i will get a raging blow light up some times, what would that be from? i cant see a buff or anything when it happens

[unreal cape]

so we know anyhting about legendary weap yet?

[keen kindle]

No

Not until mythic fyrakk dies will we know a thing other then he has it

[young swan]

raging blow has a 20% chance to reset baseline with talented 30%, the flash is raging blow resetting

[hushed arrow]

@young swan Ah i thought so, but wasnt sure thanks

[fiery storm]

mind you im the lowest ilvl ... everyone is 6-12 ilvls higher...feels so sad. lol

scuffed fyrakk fight

[proper thorn]

hi guys, can someone know what are best embeliishement for fury now ? i can't find good informations about it

[rich marlin]

Pretty sure 2 shadow flame tempered armor patch is what is current best on wrist and cloak but allied wrists with 1 is fine too

[proper thorn]

hum okay thx 🙂

[abstract vortex]

hi guys, still haste mastery main stats right ?

[robust kernel]

noperz

main stats are mastery > vers > haste > crit

[abstract vortex]

hmmm ok thx

[upbeat plume]

still should just sim using top gear stat priorities are a rough guess at best

[mild kraken]

is 4pc from s2 better aoe than 2pc 2pc?

[worldly sinew]

fury warrior buff when?

[rich marlin]

i wasnt around for season 2 but does it take 2 sparks from season 3 to upgrade crafted 2 handers? or is there a discount?

[wicked plinth]

Is gnarlroot a ST or MT fight?

[mild kraken]

yes

[compact knot]

mt

[sullen dove]

every fight is a st fight

say no to unethical gameplay

[serene vessel]

fellas its my favorite time of the year

competitive wow players complain about splits while also being the only reason splits are happening

[fiery thorn]

🤔

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[compact knot]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-boulder-gif-2070033727135676437

[keen kindle]

in b4 blizz makes heroic and mythic share a lockout.
and then normal

[serene vessel]

they'll never do that. "pro" wow guilds should just stop doing splits if they wanna keep complaining about it

[keen kindle]

"but then we'll be at a competitive disadvantage" They'd complain lmao

[vocal fog]

I swear dh is so out of line here

[keen kindle]

it is, as with evrey reworked class we've gotten this xpack

remeber 10.07 ret?

[serene vessel]

the real question is will they fix it

[keen kindle]

Probally not for a season at least

[vocal fog]

So hard to get into keys TT

[keen kindle]

Because warrior is a leet meta spec capable of deleting mobs on +35 keys within 20 seconds or less

This is an overexaggeration

[vocal fog]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[serene vessel]

find whatever class/spec is getting reworked in the .5 patch this tier and play that

thats gonna be the OP spec

[keen kindle]

Big true

[vocal fog]

What if we get legendary

😏

[keen kindle]

Imagine a warrior gets the lego first

[floral sequoia]

Anyones sims telling them to get double wafting devotion?

[compact knot]

mfw atal dazar trinket

https://tenor.com/view/typing-gif-26035390

16 atals, no trinket

[celest hearth]

im at 20

[fading bane]

got it on my 2nd/3rd :)

[serene vessel]

there's something so incredibly unnerving about this

its almost like the beard is photoshopped on

[agile tiger]

Its the lip licking that gets me

[compact knot]

gets you what ?

fill in the blank

[nocturne tiger]

I'm at 15 or so too and no trinket and the best trinket i have right now is.... the pvp one that proc stats. F

[neon musk]

It's so depressing to play fury without any set

[neon pulsar]

do cold steel hot blood procs stack?

[neon musk]

No

Works the same like on bfa

[frosty karma]

why warrior never on dps meter on ST prog bosses riku has good gear and not even top 10

rogues just ascending to next tier already, thats fine

[neon pulsar]

ah okay, i didn't play during bfa but i was just wondering. So with t3 2pc i should space out my bloodthirst crits?

[neon musk]

I can't play this game if I'm not specced into prot

[unreal cape]

so what is the other embell we‘re going for aside from shadowflame? on the wowhead guide there‘s not a 2nd listed for fury

[bleak saffron]

the guide says wrist + cloak shadowflame with vers wrist as alternative

[compact knot]

vers wrists bis

[unreal cape]

just showing shadowflame for me, weird

[bleak saffron]

yes, for both items 🙂

[unreal cape]

same embell on wirst and cloak?!

[bleak saffron]

that is what that guide says

[unreal cape]

i thought each embell is unique

[full plaza]

you can stack them

[unreal cape]

and we‘d get allied wristguard 2nd

[unreal cape]

didnt know that

[bleak saffron]

i mean you can do that if you want

[full plaza]

so wrist and cloak or dbl flame

[unreal cape]

ok thx!

stat on cloak dhould be vers mast right?

[young swan]

u can do either allied or SF on the wrists

they're very close

[unreal cape]

gotcha, i‘ll go allied wrist as 2nd 🙂

[compact knot]

im so pissed

12 mins left on last boss of atal with lust up in 3 mins, we wipe with 10 mins left and tank dips and says everybody is dogshit

[compact crater]

did anything change in terms of embelishments

[compact knot]

based or idk

[compact crater]

or is it still wrists + 1x shadowflame?

[clever path]

Why cloak? Just because of the mythic raid belt?

[compact knot]

me thinks vers wrists/ cloak shadowflame

[clever path]

I might go frostfire legguards for M+

[fading bane]

Making a ring 2nd with BSL is pretty good

really hard to get good rings

then you can make a shadowflame cloak next, and remove BSL

[gleaming crag]

well not bad for a days work of going more mastery / verse heavy

[clever path]

World of rngcraft man, it's so dumv

[gleaming crag]

Oh no I got spoonfed tier by my guild

[tulip swallow]

I could have 3p but i'm holding onto catalyst + fyrak token

[gleaming crag]

I got two piece then fryakk curio + catalyst a helm

would have rather catalyst legs but I never got them to drop

[fading bane]

legs shoulders and gloves tier are all similar value

dont really matter what u catalyst

[pallid storm]

So what's the priority rotation with 2p? Wowhead confusing me.

[compact crater]

spam Rampage and BB?

[pallid storm]

Execute after bloodthirst used?

[cosmic tartan]

what if im just jumping back since S1, caught up story and cleared norm raid. ilvl at 445 with one decent weap. is fury gonna suck til i get tier?

i got none on the normal clear

id imagine BT build is pointless without tier

[tulip swallow]

Not having any tier at all is gonna hurt, a lot of people running around with old tier

[cosmic tartan]

yea i have nothing from s2 cause i skipped it entirely

[fading bane]

If you get s2 gear

I think you can make it to t30 tier with catalyst

[tulip swallow]

oh true you might be able to catalyst the questing gear

I don't know if the charges are retroactive on that or what though

[fading bane]

Not quest gear from emerqld dream i think

Thats s3

[compact crater]

Well i got realy unlucky this week so far

[tulip swallow]

I think some of my guildies were doing it last week, maybe the charges reset this week I honestly have no idea

[compact crater]

no token dropped

Used all my luck in m+

[tulip swallow]

Loot seemed pretty average for our normal clear and then I swear to god fyrak dropped like 10 items

[compact crater]

with rezan trinket on hero patch and gorehowl in hero path

[gleaming crag]

welp switching some shit around and using the 447 crest Im now more optimal for new fury

[olive wraith]

Wdym

[wide sedge]

is around 60k dps single target good with abberus tier set?

cause I dont have the set and was told I should be doing 70k to 80k

like the new emerald dream set

[queen nymph]

time rifts and dream surge gear can be converted to season 2 tier and go to 450ilvl

[olive wraith]

Need way more information my guy

[wide sedge]

what do you need

[cosmic tartan]

@queen nymph awesome

is that the stuff you need to upgrade before converting to tier cause it locks

i thought i saw something about that in last week

[olive wraith]

Ilvl, talents, which fight

A log would be good

[hallow sphinx]

@young swan FAKE FUCK

[spiral ermine]

yo

primal molten vambraces stats bis are haste mastery?

[compact crater]

sim it

let robot decide

[olive wraith]

Sim

But also allied are a good emb

[spiral ermine]

even if i dont have any good loots yet?

[wide sedge]

I'm ilvl 444, my talents are here, and it was just on a dummy

[olive wraith]

Sim everything

[compact crater]

allways let robot decide

[wide sedge]

idk how to get you a log LOL still kind of new

[compact crater]

oh man

you dont play that talent build until you have 2 piece of amirdrasil

[olive wraith]

You said you don’t have amid tier

And don’t have aberrus tier?

[wide sedge]

no I have the aberrus 4 set

[olive wraith]

Oh def be using those talents

You’re losing a lot going anni build

[empty mirage]

did we swap builds for M+ and raids im still on the last seasons build with last seasons tier set

[compact crater]

you swap build if you have 2 p amir

[wide sedge]

SHIT sorry posted the wrong one I have brain damage

[empty mirage]

do you have the 2p build handy

[compact crater]

which one?

[empty mirage]

aoe for M+ and raid

[compact crater]

st raid, mt raid, mü?

[empty mirage]

i need all of them lmfao, havent been on wow in a few months

[compact crater]

send you a dm ma bruda

[hard widget]

If you're playing old set, you want to have intimidating shout / stormbolt for m+

And u want Hack and Slash over Massacre

[olive wraith]

To backpack if you looking for ST damage you have a lot of aoe talents too

[wide sedge]

ok so this build would be good for mythic or aoe raid pulls then?

[hard widget]

With old set yes

If you look for more aoe damage take seismic over honed reflexes

Since ur already swimming in RB resets, and probably dont care for the 1 sec reduced pummel

[olive wraith]

1 minor think is I’d personally take the 2 points in rage cap

[hard widget]

Didnt see that

U definitely take 2 points in overwhelming rage

[wide sedge]

what do I get rid of for it?

[olive wraith]

Cut out that ww talent below it

[olive wraith]

Or ya the honed reflex works

[hard widget]

Either take 1 point cruel or seismic

[wide sedge]

sorry theres so many goddamn talents and I just got back into wow a few weeks before 10.2 dropped coming from the old talent system

[hard widget]

Seismic sims higher tho

[wide sedge]

after about 3 mins playing with those talents I was averaging like 68k dps is that around whats expected?

[gilded pawn]

Don’t take seismic

[hushed arrow]

If im enraged, what comes first, execute or rampage?

[hard widget]

Why not?

[hard widget]

Rampage

[hushed arrow]

@hard widget thanks

[wide sedge]

ok I think I have the rotation down now, is there any addons that help with learning rotation or is it just about practicing

[gilded pawn]

its bad

its 11% damage on a weak ability that only works in aoe

[hard widget]

Okay, so sim it @gilded pawn for me it sims higher

Its an M+ build

Most his time will be spend in aoe

[fiery storm]

feels so bad i cant use any mythic gear i am finding rn cause i cant break t30....

[gilded pawn]

most players just drop that point for additional yutility

[hard widget]

Like what?

The build i linked already has stormbolt and intimidating shout

He either takes cruel strikes or seismic for his last point

[dense elbow]

I would take the free stamina, also I would take shockwave - there are so many things to stop atm

Stun is always great value

[leaden zealot]

hey man

im new

[hard widget]

With annihilator i agree, with old build, meh

[echo garnet]

Do we go 2pc-2pc or straight swap 4pc?

[hard widget]

Same answer as in #arms

[fiery storm]

if this is true, why are we not swapping once we get 2pc? i give up

[leaden zealot]

any builds?

[proud portal]

Compared too last season I am unsure why blizzard thought streamlining every warrior too Annhilator build was a good idea

[olive wraith]

Blizz wanted a diff build simple as that

We been playing am rav since season 1

[warm pewter]

Ok but they could've at least made the synergy not feel like shit

Rng CDR? cmon

[prime charm]

Fury is just awful right now whether you have tier or not

[warm pewter]

Ye feeling rough frfr

Legendary will balance it out tho

[olive wraith]

I mean it felt fine to me on ptr

[prime charm]

I imagine it would do when you can go to a PTR vendor and buy full bis gear

[olive wraith]

I didn’t run full bis gear

Literally just put new set on with old stuff

[prime charm]

Just pray for buffs in the usual 2nd week review of the tier so far.

[olive wraith]

I don’t think we’re in that bad of a spot

Solidly middle

Plus what the other guy said. We also get a crack at legendary so don’t really know if they took that into account

[prime charm]

Yeh how long will that take to acquire? 2-3-4-5 weeks? Plus I don't see it closing the gap between ourselves and classes like hunters and DH.

[olive wraith]

Not every class can be at the top

Dh and rogues just got reworks. Typically means they’re gonna be the top dogs

[wise tide]

so what's everyone going for their first crafted piece? companion bracers?

[covert blaze]

miss u baby xoxo

[proud portal]

Yeah, the tier just forcefully made it so every fury is rolling annhilator build, I am finding it does a lot a damage. but I literally wish there was other builds that was possible without gimping ourselves.

[supple kettle]

are we using slam as fury with 4pc its talented in wowhead crushing force im lost 😭

[proud portal]

Then again I wish Fury had a full rework like arms somewhat did

[wise tide]

❤️

[snow edge]

Yes

[olive wraith]

That’s kinda what tiers do

[snow edge]

It’s used as a filler with t31

[olive wraith]

S1 force sudden death on us

[proud portal]

Last tier set you had the option of annhilator or Raging blow build

which would be the fun case

10.0 had the same thing as well

[olive wraith]

Not really

One was clearly better

[proud portal]

Yea it somewhat did, there was 2 talent sets that basically simed the same in 10.0-10.1

[olive wraith]

Anni being one of them?

Cause that’s def not the case

[proud portal]

Anni and raging blow were both used in both patches. I've witness it myself and experimented with it lol

They both had upside and downsides

[olive wraith]

Just because you experimented with it doesn’t mean it’s equal

[snow edge]

Not really - not if you were playing optimally

[olive wraith]

Amos was ahead by enough to be the sole “meta”

[snow edge]

Annihilator last tier was used maybe if you were mucking around / playing super casually

[olive wraith]

Or playing pvp

[proud portal]

It depended on how you optimatlly used it

[olive wraith]

No

If both were played optimally

Amos was significantly ahead

[snow edge]

That’s a false argument my dude; appreciate you don’t like being funneled into annihilator / OF, but every season does it

[supple kettle]

noticed did some target dummy practicing really weird rotation kinda lost on ST for the M+ build send WW and slam on CD i think and BT and rampage to dump?

[olive wraith]

Bt on cd

[snow edge]

Have you checked out the wowhead rotation guide?

[olive wraith]

Your rotation is gonna be bt basically every other gcd

[snow edge]

The tier set influences our rotation

[supple kettle]

i did nothing on ST rotation for M+ build

or i couldnt find it ;/

[olive wraith]

The rotation tab?

[supple kettle]

can i drop the VC for bloodcraze?

its not there mostly ST build rotation or AOE rotation for M+ build

[olive wraith]

The st talents have bloodcraze I thought

[supple kettle]

not ST rotation for M+ build

not for M+

[olive wraith]

Our st rotation is the same as aoe

With the exception of needing to press ww more for cleave

[supple kettle]

so for raid drop WW and meat cleaver for execute talants?

in pure ST

ill figure it out im sure no sweat 💪🏻

[olive wraith]

Im fairly sure wowhead was updated

[snow edge]

The 2 builds are in the pins basically, and the only real difference is WW being used to cleave our abilities in M+ v. WW being used as a filler in ST

[pure thorn]

would y’all say we just all go annihilator no matter what even before endgame? came back for the first time in years and leveling rn. Every rotation guide i see still mentions onslaught.

[young swan]

i would not recommend that

its only good with the new tier set bonuses

[pure thorn]

gotcha, ty.

[sharp tartan]

Would anyone know why my secondary stat budget is so much lower than this guy who is only 1 ilvl higher than me? Summing the 4 secondaries, he has 1500 more total secondary stat?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/LQqXkAjfDCVWMKwv/BmFQj7KXzJGY62Mh#fight=51,94&source=3,Shoxwar&type=summary

[clever belfry]

is this a private log

[sharp tartan]

Balls, guild wont allow public logs these few weeks 😦

[clever belfry]

one trinket gives secondaries
then wep has a lot if secondaries too

[sharp tartan]

Both our two trinkets are +strength

Unless the passive stats of the chromatic essence

[sinful spoke]

this is all i get in dungeons

no wep

no trinket

no ring with correct stat

[clever belfry]

isnt that the mast haste ring

[sinful spoke]

1k crit

[clever belfry]

or is this the brh one

[sinful spoke]

yes

[clever belfry]

same icon
lazy designers

[edgy widget]

you can, but you're giving up Reck + Rav for OF on a longer CD, which is really mid for M+, and not optimal for a lot of raid encounters in which adds spawn more frequently than 45s - better option is to keep regular build but swap Onslaught to OF

[celest sierra]

yo wtf is up with this dungeon pool

drops absolutely suck for warriors

[snow edge]

?

What do you mean, there's decent dungeon drops

[warm pewter]

Y'all are getting drops.?

[subtle lagoon]

I've been getting socketed belts left and right from weeklies and once in m+

I get dry streaks a lot though, and it sucks that a lot of the armor drops can't even be used because it'd break 4pc

[snow edge]

We've run a heap of dungeons, and I've just picked up a weapon

[rotund steppe]

i get nothing ;_;

[snow edge]

We're about 40 dungeons in now

[rotund steppe]

nah if i do that i will burn out

[snow edge]

Yeh it's only bearable because it's with mates, if it was pugs no shot

[rotund steppe]

lmao

i have no friends ;_;

[snow edge]

Big true

[sinful spoke]

Make some

[upbeat plume]

Just curious so the build your suggesting here is the the am rav build but just too swap out OS for odyns right? Just curious as that sounds interesting and I only have 2pc atm lol

[edgy widget]

I'd give it a try with 2p, but I'm not promising any results - nothing is setup specifically to min/max 2+2, as it's not really a target build

[upbeat blade]

Is gromnak on illidan?

[edgy widget]

but for M+ or MT raid fights, it would make a lot more sense than Annihilator or Onslaught

[subtle lagoon]

Reck+rav AM + OF should have definitely been the build we end up with using with 4pc instead of RA.

[young swan]

think hes on mal'ganis

cant remmeber

no it is illidan ur right

[woeful mantle]

1.5m cds in m+ feels bad compared to last season imo anyone else feel that?

[young swan]

yes its not great

[prime summit]

yeah it feels awful

fob feels infinitely better than 4pc fury

annihilator build

havent tried AM + OF w/ ravager though

that sounds fun

[upbeat plume]

Of course makes sense lol, no harm in giving it a try since I won't get 4pc till next week lol may as well spin the wheel on a few m+ XD

[slim coral]

heroic fyrakk is so fun

the dev who created that fight along with hanldorus and sludgefist is the goat

[edgy widget]

well its compensated for by OF being on a much lower CD, but this set is generally more ST focused than previous

[tacit crag]

Does the of interaction work properly now or is it bugged.

I thought it wasn't working as well as it should in aoe or something

[young swan]

it has almost 0 aoe interaction but thats by design

[summer quail]

Wish it was 100% crit chance on aoe as well atleast that way cshb would be really nice

But idk how you code the extra damage on only maintarget

[edgy widget]

well getting a 50% buffed OF twice as often is an AoE interaction

it's just the bloodthirst part isn't

[young swan]

yes that is why I said almost 0 aoe interaction

cause the cdr and the damage and the crit all dont really interact on aoe

[edgy widget]

Xan's interpretation of almost zero

0 - 50% ----------------------------------------------------- 100%

[young swan]

i guess if u count like cleaved bt crits counting for 1 application of cdr then it does

but i personally dont

[leaden zealot]

how do i increase whirlwind's damage?

[vast crystal]

BiS crafted gear is the cloak for shadowflame?

[tacit crag]

I think this is what I was thinking of regarding it being "bugged" I feel cleaved bt crits should reduce it by each target.

[young swan]

yeah that would be ridiculously strong

[tacit crag]

They don't seem to like when fury or arms is best in m+ and st raid so I'm sure there will be changes somewhere after the race probably. Arms seems to be slowly creeping on that "best in both content" that they always seem to avoid with warrior.

But I am hopeful 4pc tier will make things better.

[sudden tusk]

yoo

they killed smoldy

fucking sick

[clever belfry]

cleave = more or less guaranteed cdr

->

fury is now a funnel spec

[fringe vale]

bro 2 pieces tier fury feels so awkward

[mystic fractal]

Cloak craft feels weird cause I got a cloak in heroic this week, do I move on to just doing wrists, craft shadowflame in a different slot, or stay the course?

[prime summit]

Looking at everbloom logs a fury warrior with old 4 set is doing the most damage 🙃

[sullen dove]

fury with old 4set or fob arms

[prime summit]

Love that

[sullen dove]

those are your two options

red pill blue pill

[prime summit]

Delete season 3 tier

[sullen dove]

alternatively just break the meta and completely ignore playing around set, just run odyns fury in place of onslaught

surely this will dispense maximum damage

[vast crystal]

what stats should one be going for in s3? as i understand wowhead vers/mast then haste then crit?

[sullen dove]

yea generally, youre gonna be more worried about that at close to higher ilvl tho as more often than not ilvl upgrade is just better

but yea sumthin like that

[woeful mantle]

yeah i only have 2pc prob why it doesnt feel as good yet :p

[late ivy]

Is the rotation same as s2?

[mystic fractal]

Not once you get tier. Bloodthirst overtakes RB hard.

Or, guess I should say Bloodbath, lol

[short spire]

btw why is gorehowl our bis? what is special about it

[bold osprey]

Prob its bis because when ypu have all zhe other bis gear, this weapon has the most efficient stats

[night stone]

You lose RB completely with annihilator

[mystic fractal]

Oh thats right 😂

[night stone]

You get slam tho 😄

[mystic fractal]

Yeh, we got slam, ww, and... "just wait a sec" as fillers LMAO

[red yew]

WARRIOR FUNNEL IS REEEAL

[prime charm]

we need one of these spec updates like a lot of other classes

[subtle lagoon]

I miss seeing warrior in the patch notes, lmao. Nothing for 10.2.5 either.

[night stone]

I dont get How we arent allowed to slightly overperform dps-wise given How shit utility we have compared to specs like enhance and havoc lol

Instead we get to have 0 agency to multiple affixes while doing worse dmg than specs that can do everything at once 😆😆😆

Literally 0 reason to invite a warrior over a havoc at this point

[winter condor]

hi friends is there a weak aura that tells me to swap to berserk stance

i keep pepegaing and forgetting to turn it on and look like poopoo

[fervent turtle]

anyone knows where i can get critcakes mousecursor with the GCD ring animation?

[serene vessel]

wago ultimate mouse cursor

[fervent turtle]

ty

hmm getting errors in the chat window with it.. nevermind then

[opaque leaf]

u guys play 2/2 set or wait for 4 pc?

[night stone]

Personally sitting on a omni token waiting for 1 more piece for 4 set at 2k rating

[potent pasture]

4 defintly

[wild mural]

rahhhhhh good morning skyhold time to not get any score lezgoooo

💪

[subtle lagoon]

While doing less damage than a lot of other classes 👌

[wild mural]

rahhhh time to skill diff some edgy bois

[subtle lagoon]

glgl

[glossy pebble]

Does weapon placement matter? Like offhand/mainhand

[flat river]

question

do we need to use annighalator

can't we just get onslaught

[fervent turtle]

you only need to die

[glossy pebble]

I mean you don't have to play it, you're just not going to be doing optimal damage

[flat river]

im dealing less dmg with the new set piece lmao

[glossy pebble]

It takes a bit to get used to

[flat river]

with ravager i used to burst for like 370k

[glossy pebble]

I literally hit dummies for like half an hour to build it to muscle memory

[flat river]

now i burst for 240k

[glossy pebble]

Although if I have to say, it does feel bad in AoE but feels nice in ST

The damage is still there though

[flat sapphire]

I think I bursted 500k with new 2pc yesterday

[flat river]

:O

[tall turret]

I've only got 2pc but it was simming way lower

[flat river]

maybe i do suck

[glossy pebble]

Yeah depends on the size of the pull also cuz Odyn's fury is not capped

[flat river]

its not?

lol

[glossy pebble]

Nop, at least it doesn't say in the tooltip

[flat sapphire]

rn on target dummies after like idk after I did my burst aoe

[fervent turtle]

ravager sucks because of the long CD

[flat river]

no?

AM

every pull u have it

• recklessness

[glossy pebble]

If you run AM, your BT is not going to do a lot of damage with the tier set

That's why you lose damage

Ravager will not make up that lost damage

[fervent turtle]

omg i didnt even know AM also reduced ravager CD, thought its only recklessness

[flat river]

how do you guys start your MT rotation?

[glossy pebble]

Charge and pop all CDs insta

You get everything up

[willow cradle]

Well

you don't want to do that

[flat river]

charge > reck > odyns?

and then after avatar 4 sec ends use avatar?

oh btw guys i relised something

DB stacks up to 12 seconds

so you could use it before it ends

to get that extra dmg in

[edgy widget]

Avatar extends, so if you're using Titanic Rage, then you only need to delay for the OF DoT to not be completely overwritten

[flat sapphire]

I have no clue how to actually do it but I charge and recklessness and pop my anvil trinket mid charge and then I arrive at the target I use odyns fury rampage bloodbath rampage bloodbath rampage bloodbth avatar rampae bloodbath rampage bloodbath rampage bloodbath and then i just whenever I feel in the middle of all of that I pop thunderous roar

[edgy widget]

but yeah, using Avatar's proc as as guideline is close enough

[flat river]

really?

[edgy widget]

no I'm lying

[flat river]

lmao

xD

honestly

make titans torment 8 seconds

like beserkers torment

[flat sapphire]

This what I do when I burst really high

[fervent turtle]

i pop TR when recklessness falls off and before going to normal rota

[edgy widget]

you should be using Roar during Reck, don't use it after

[glossy pebble]

Idk, I charge --> Avatar/Reck/Thunderous Roar --> Rampage --> BT --> Rampage --> BT --> Rampage --> BT

Then I odyns

Idk if that's bad but

[edgy widget]

If you have 4p, you want to use OF before Avatar, otherwise the CDR is wasted

if you're just using 2p then it doesn't matter, since you're not getting CDR anyway, though you might as well get into the habit of it

[glossy pebble]

Ahh ok, I don't got that yet

[fervent turtle]

actually i still macro Avatar + Reck and go like Charge > Avatar/Reck, Ramapge to enrage, OF, TR then, Rampage, BB, Rampage, BB.. might not be optimal but i guess its still fine

[flat river]

ok i tried burst again with correct starting rotation and i burst for 320k

[flat sapphire]

Thats what im trying to do

[flat river]

nice

need to get used to in then

[flat river]

ok i tried again with this and wow i dealt 60k more dmg

xD

[edgy widget]

if you really wanna min/max your burst with Titanic Rage, then you want to use OF first and Avatar to refresh the WW buff

[flat river]

oh yeah i forgot about that

retry

[edgy widget]

So something like
Reck -> Charge -> OF -> Rampage -> TR -> BB -> Rampage -> BB -> Avatar -> Rampage -> BB ->

[flat river]

ok wtf

450k burst

XDDD

i am happy

btw arch i realised that DB stacks to 12 seconds

[edgy widget]

Yes it has done that since beta

although it actually goes to 13

[flat river]

nice

[zealous condor]

The burst is unbelievably mediocre

[flat river]

ooo

[flat river]

no?

[zealous condor]

Compared to other melee specs

It absolutely is

[flat river]

maybe

[flat river]

you should've started withj that

[zealous condor]

Rogue DH Enhance

[flat river]

but in general the burst is not that bad

compared to last season

[zealous condor]

Yeah it’s fine but

Downgrade

For sure

[flat river]

look

[edgy widget]

are we talking ST or AOE? Cause Fury's set isn't really AoE oriented, but it is still pretty strong in terms of frequency because you're getting that OF so often

[zealous condor]

AoE

[edgy widget]

in ST Fury is actually pretty bursty now

well obviously, it's not a heavy AoE set

[flat river]

we don't compare ourselves to other classes

[edgy widget]

like c'mon lol

[flat river]

if you're a warrior

you'll always be a warrior

[edgy widget]

if all you care about is AoE, you might as well drop RA and take OF + Reck + Rav + AM

but your ST is gonna fall like a shit from heaven, cause that's not what the set is built for

[flat river]

time to try ST

i need a macro for spear though

[edgy widget]

Also bringing up Rogue / DH AoE in any convo right now is just kinda stupid, since they're both obviously overtuned

[zealous condor]

Ofc

[flat river]

@edgy widget what is the mouseover macro command

[glossy pebble]

What is DB by the way

[edgy widget]

Dancing Blades, the other Odyn's Fury talent

[glossy pebble]

I keep thinking dragon's breath

Ok thanks

[zealous condor]

All I’m saying is for keys it’s a big feels bad

[flat river]

is this correct @edgy widget ?

[glossy pebble]

I would do @cursor or @ player but that's just my preference

[flat river]

oh

does @ player work?

[fervent turtle]

no

🙂

ofc

[flat river]

some random guy called player just got pinged

xD

[glossy pebble]

Whoops

@ player just drops it at your feet

Right under you

[flat river]

oh

[wild mural]

so I can macro reck adn roar?

[flat river]

yes

[wild mural]

sick

gonna depleto my 15 rise

[oblique trail]

Mouseover does not work for targeted abilities like spear

[wild mural]

can I get a RIP bozo

[flat river]

rip bozo

[tall turret]

[flat river]

ok what is ST rotation

with raid build