#fury
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It's cranking
guys, could you give me some tips and trics to increase my dps in M+ and raids? Maybe some macros or skill usage, addons, wa's, something that was not mentioned on wowhead
I don't have 2 set yet so I'm just chilling until next week to mess with sims between the specs
same
Arms warrior #1 on dps rankings confirmed? Oh shit
I mean we don’t really know what you may be doing wrong
Does Crit gain value with 4p T31 + Augury trinket? I understand Crit has no value with the empowered BT/BB due to them being guaranteed crits, but both the 4pc set bonus and the trinket seem to incentivize having a higher crit chance. Is the increased damage on the empowered BT/BB with Mast/Vers worth more than having a lower OF CD (which means more empowerd BT/BB) and higher output from the Augury trinket?
Sims can answer that question
Another seemingly common opinion on the blizzard forums that makes me question humanity : "They nerfed Reckless Abandon! Warrior is dead!"
but it's buffed wym
dum dum people
Exactly
Sorry I've just been browsing the blizz forums this morning after checking if the D11 ram flooding issue has been fixed, and it's a wild place
I mean it always has been, but I kinda forgot just how consistent the bad takes are
Oh and the DX11 issue has been fixed, for the 2 of us that still use it
hey man without the blizz forums we wouldnt have had dagger smf

off topic but for anyone that knows about this kind of thing, would it be worth for me to buy a Ryzen 5800X3D if/when they go on sale in a week or 2 or should I just spring for an am5 setup. I'm still using a fossilized AM3+ and it's really falling behind these days
Budget is pretty mid, say $500-600 for the mobo/cpu/ram
Then definitely stick with an AM4 build
Alrighty that's what I'm leaning towards atm, I hear good things about the 5800X3d for wow in particular
so we would be better off

yeah the 5800x3d is a baller for wow
soon we will get the 5700x3d tho, which might be worth waiting for if youre strapped in the budget

Maid teach me how to press arms buttons so they can feel like you're still there. Just dumber
What is the name of the embellishment for the shadowflame ?
um... shadowflame?
shadowflame armor patch lol
thanks
is there a pin somewhere on discord for the fury T30 rotation?
Just tell them nah I’d win in a maid off
should we go 2+2 or wait till 4set?
tbh depending where you are, you can get a 5800X3D for 249$ USD
but you can also get a 13600K for like 200$ if you're patient enough too - you'd have to buy a new MOBO for it granted
anyonee know how to sim shadowflame armor patch i dont see it pop on professions
2+2 with T31 talents for raid, but probably wait for 4p for M+
What is the best item to use the spaek of dream for?
trying to find out if i could sim it
Thanks bro, appreciate it 🙂
gear compare
spiked counterweight simming higher than OCE?
My guild is having me do a loot list for raid. Anyone have any recommendations or potentially sleeper items? Excluding tier
Weird, my TG sims 5k higher than my SMF but when I test damage, SMF does 10k more damage in a 8 minute DPS window
when is it worth to start crafting ?
Same ilvl, same enchants, correct talents
I think you’re doing something wrong then
I know this is not the most accurate representation but is arms ahead because of tier set already or are there other changes i missed?

Idk man it's weird, doing the same prio as I should be doing
literally the oppposite -
fury gets more value from tier set than arms
guys, does anyone has or know where to find a good WA for execute? just for that one skill.
how come arms is ahead before this season fury was ahead with t30 so i was thinking t31 put them ahead
arms got buffed coming into the tier
Also Ms kinda bussin for sang ngl
arms
MS?
Mortal strike
It looks good but I haven't been there yet so idk what DPS looks like there
I also didn't know that DHs now can burst like 850k DPS
are you running the t30 build ?
That's t30
t31 can still be kaching tier, it's just
bc it means you've been so dry on bt crits that bloodcraze has stacked that high

t32: each rampage hit increases the crit chance of your next RB by 20%, fury lowest damage spec by a mile but god damn does the kaching wa go off
ka-ching brings dopamine for 0.2s
What is our BiS tier slots this season?

man i really fucked up fury this last tier
because i mostly pvp'd and ka-ching doesn't really get held
you just press when you can
stop using "bis lists" !!!!!!!!1
This but unironically
he said "this but unironically" egar
4p is better than waiting for “bis” pieces
yeah but that implies i didn't mean it
yeah u didnt
Thanks Xan
yeah wtf erga
best embelishments are vers wrists and shadowflame tempered armor patch?

Yup, but probably replacing patch with Lariat late in the tier when everything has sockets again
Fury this season just feels "off"
how so
Does the odyns fury from hitting avatar proc the new tier bonus?
it does
You mean "this season" being just a few days old?
Is it worth burning BTs from actual odyns fury tier procs before hitting avatar and getting new odyns fury tier procs or no?
Yes avatar gives us tier stacks
Just wait for the dot to fall off before hitting Ava
We cast odyns first before avatar
how likely is it to get 9/9H this week. guild is 4/9H w/ 3 hours raided. 3 hours remaning
we also did normal in those 3hrs
is smolderBoi a hard wall
That’s impossible to answer for us
Do you make sure to hit the three bloodthirsts from odyns fury before casting avatar?
We don’t know your group lol
No need the tier stacks to 6
Oh sweet, thanks
Gotcha
Do we delay the cast of odyns or avatar anymore or do we just full send pretty much?
I figured at least a couple seconds foe the dot
You still delay for dancing blades and odyn dot
heya, rotation question: when one can rampage (not rage capped) after slam or WW, do you rampage to get a BB or do you first BT to maximize BT/BB usage?
if u want any tips on this i would suggest making sure you guys 1. do not let orbs hit the boss. if you get any id prob just wipe tbh. also we ended up 6 healing instead of 5 on heroic and it made it so much easier. the fight seems like a dps race but tbh its a do the ball mechanic and stay alive and it falls over
I mean this particular T2/T4 build, combined with Odyns Fury, and Annihilator in my opinion just does not flow well as previous 2 iterations(S1/S2). Its a gameplay thing for me, while I think in general it will do more burst damage, and be more viable in large pull scenarios (M+) and it also seems to have a lot better ST potential, I think Odyns Fury and even annihilator need to be looked at more. As somebody who always played fury, it simply never feels right to not have key to press. As for performance having our damage on 1.5 min, takes away one of ours biggest advantages of having our CDs consistently up no matter the scenario especially in M+. It may be doomer in me but I think we will easily get overshadowed by other classes whos CDs simply do more damage. Last season I knew I will be under on some pulls but I will dish out consistent damage troughout now I just feel "weak"
i'm not gonna read more than 2 sentences but i agree with you
ok ty. im assuming u got a kill or are super close
Yeah sry for long post
me
mumei
ina
when you do it right you always have a button to press
2p t31 and 2p t30 is better in ST, but worse in m+, am I correct?
Impossible to tell you since nobody here knows your comp or guild performance. My guild is on T Swift after a night of heroic so it just depends really. Smolderon was difficult because everything is the same damn color and lots of personal responsibility, but it’s not some super hard wall imo.
ah ok poggers
same prob w/ denathrius before the color change
is taylor swift boss some kind of meme im missing
Karma is a Druid
wow is back
Plater shortens the boss name to T. Swiftclaw or w/e his name is so I’ve heard a lot of people just refer to him as t swift lol
Silm says you don't delay for DB, you send ava once your TT ava ends
Unless that's changed in the last couple days
Yeah not for the whole db
You delay for of dot essentially
And the db is a bonus
Db lasts too long
You rampage above 85% rage, so if you can rampage but you're at like 80 rage, it's better to do another bt + filler cycle first
They just need to make it stack instead of pandemic
Ye
There’s a vtuber who does blue collar work in their garage
Is it you
that’s my #2 behind erga obviously
What do you mean exactly? While its not often it tands to happen to me when I am doing out of burst rotation.
Also what is a haste range we are talking about?
Blizzard fears the warrior
Erga never streams
all ur spell cds are hasted (bt/ww/slam) so won't rly matter
Also the sim misses 1 gcd every 5 minutes
You're probably pressing rampage too early
There’s no downtime with annil
You don't rampage every possible opportunity like you do with t30
Unless you mess up
Ok that may be issue, so lets say I am at 80 rage, what is priority?
Depends on your cd status but probably bt
BT on cd unless overapping rage or you have a free crit from tier which you want to send with bloodbath after ramp
Assuming you're not in reck, if your rage is below 85% (which is 104 I think), you DON'T ramp
so you focus entirely on the OF CD reduction and just dump rage with Ramapge?
Ok cool, and also question about opener.
do we need to do any quest for legendary to drop? or jsut the quest after
No one knows anything about legendary
hope someone at blizzard do...
wait, shouldnt it be available rn?
Kind of? Your main objective is to use as many (preferably empowered by tier set) bloodbaths as possible. Our overall rage regen is lower than with t30 AM/OS build, which means you can't just yolo your rampage like before. If you miss gcds because you rampaged too early, that means your rage generation will be lower, which means fewer rampages, which means fewer bloodbaths
When you ask wow player a simple question:
https://clips.twitch.tv/KindBumblingWrenPMSTwin-vyopeNnb7AJdz6a7
so im looking at my build for m+ and such and it has these 2 talents, but i rarely ever use bloodthirst. Is it worth taking them if im barely using bloodthirst?
hmm not entirely getting it,you could also argue that using Rampage asap generates most BBs. Also do not see what rage generation has to do with earlier or later ramapges.
Temporary and long term don’t always line up. 🤷♂️
Allied prob better for M+, shadow better for ST in long run
But by like 0.1-2% ea
Because each rampage press is an opportunity cost of a generator
For more info on this, i dont have last seasons tier set, i boosted the warrior
Then just remove it for now
Kind of hard to explain in text, but say you're at 80 rage with slam available. You press rampage > bb > slam > bt > ww > bt; now both slam and ww are on cd and you may not have enough rage to rampage again
BUT if instead of rampaging first you do (starting with 80 rage) slam > bt > ramp (now at like 125 rage or something) > bb > ww > bt > slam > bt, you should be back above 80 rage and able to rampage again
So you basically get 2 rampages instead of 1
Because your slam cd was recharging during your first rampage
ya, 0.4% for me
ok that science is bit too high, but i think at least going BT first makes the rotation more methodical, so you go like Rampage > BB > Slam > BT > Rampage > BB > WW > BT > Ramapge > BB > Slam etc... with variations due to using other GCDs occationalsly
You won't have enough rage generation (outside of reck) to rampage that frequently
I think you have the right idea of basically alternating bt + slam/ww, the important bit is more that you should use another bt + filler if it's not going to overcap your rage so that you can avoid having gcds with everything on cooldown later on
There's no harm in pressing slam + bt before your rampage if it doesn't overcap your rage, and that makes it much less likely that you hit an empty gcd later on (which means your overall rage generation will be higher because you'll have more slam/ww to press, which means more rampages overall)
to break it down my idea is basically using BT/BB every 2nd gcd
why I said the long run, but yeah - it varies with your gearing
whether you have a lot/little of vers, etc
and for the rest its Rampage > slam > ww
That is mostly correct, but if you just rampage whenever you have rage to do it, you're going to hit periods where your bt, slam, and ww are all on cooldown at the same time, and you just have to wait 1 gcd to bt again
idk, at least on the dummy i never ran into such scenario.
but yeah, generally i think the idea is clear, thx for elaborating on that for me 🙂
is arms outperforming fury in m+ rn?
It's not important if you don't have the last season's set, but Bloodborne still helps with Thunderous Roar damage
Both are fine, I think people are playing a lot of arms just to have fun with new build
I imagine you can just swap it over to Ashen + Massacre instead
Can you link new arms build? And in you opinion how does it feel?
look at critcakes new video
Ok tnx guys.
there are guides in the pins
I think some people might be confused because
- It's only listed under t31 (granted there are a few talent changes between t31 and t30), and
- It's called "multitarget fervor" and I think people might be looking for "whirlwind" or "collateral" or something
ferver is what the entire build is built around thoo
Yes
But I think people see arms warriors going ww ww ww ww ww and say "I want to try the whirlwind build" esp since fervor has been a dead talent all expac
Like a ton of people in #arms have asked "what is fervor" in the last week lol
Fervor is the more important talent than Collateral Damage, and if you don't know Fervor is associated with Whirlwind at this point, idk what to tell you
and we're moving into T31, you could play the build with T30, but frankly... why; fervor is not the T30 playstyle
Because 
ok, but that's a stupid reason
I agree with you tbh, just identifying why (I think) people might be confused
ok but asking "what is WW build" versus "what is Fervor build" is the same prediciment
not quite sure I'd call that a ton of people lol
where is the talents craft items embelishments ext.
2017 letsgoo
yeah we got the kill
poggers
So 3 in a week? Still not a "ton" by any stretch
In game. But you cam learn about them in the usualy place, the pins and guides linked in the pins
also that's an acronym, ofc more people are going to be confused as to what an acronym stands for
difference in not knowing what FoB means and not knowing what Fervor means, so I'm not sure that's really indicative of anything, nor related to the guides
Yeah again I agree with you, I'm just tilted from linking people the build all morning bc they don't know how to search 
whats going to be stronger overall damage in keys the arms WW build or fury M+ t31 build with full t31? assuming same ilvl for both and 4p for both
welcome to my world lol
Despairge
Guys
I'll improve the guide wording to make them a little more obvious
do i need to craft embeleshment first week ?
Arch everyone should have a 'check the pins' flair by default.
craft ur vers bracers
doenst sim better than the cloak since i have hero track brcaers atm
i thought i'm gonna go for the colak shadowflame
idk then sit on it if u dont need to minmax damage by week 2
check what ppl are doing on logs when we get our 2nd spark
we have 2 choices bracers and shadowflame
can anyone tell me at what ilv you would replace a 441 ashkandor?
bracers are good b/c they also add defense
i would replace 441 ashkandur the second i got an upgrade
i have 447/441Ash
You can sim it, but personally I swapped my 437 with a 450 offhand
What embellishments do we use?
vers bracers / shadowflame
but check logs to see what ppl are doing after we get 2nd spark
thanks
link ur stuff
and thats with a 463 off hand
Yeah I had the same issue
is arms better? i see all big wars being arms in m+ & raid atm
450 ash beating a 463 off hand
4 old p or 2/2 for m+?
Yeah I was giving my details and saying was getting the same bs lol hell mines even more of a dps loss it was like 3.5k
t30 4p for sure
so like are sims messed up or what i feel like 441 shouldnt beat a 463
run a gear compare sim
just realized i was looking at a top gear
Sorry i might not see it but what is the build when we have 2tier + 2 tier?
So jsut normal 31t raid build on wowhead?
Yep that's the one
fwiw, you're changing a lot of stuff there, not just weapon
allright thanks
thats why i said to run a gear compare. he's doing too many iterations on a single item slot compare
The 463 breaks your 4P, doesn't it?
Idk if he is or not, but yeah - if you see weird results, the best first step is to eliminate extra factors
like all he wants to know is do i replace my 441 ash w/ this 463 weapon i got from eBay
how long did the other .5 patches take to come out
okay i'll try that
yeah
I didn't think about gear compare that's a good idea
assume the enchants are 100% right once u know that 1 wep is better w/ the same enchants then sim changing enchants
but honestly
ur better just doing whatever u can to spam ilvl
u can focus on minmaxing enchants and secondaries once ur at or near max ilvl
u can move that around with gems in neck, gems in gear, ring enchants, etc....
thats another top gear report
i mean isnt that what i should use to check gear against other gear
no im running it for u
I'd run Droptimizer or Gear Compare if you're just talking weapons
ur simming 1 change against another
its an A/B test
A or B
once u know A or B u run another A/B test for enchants
im running the sim for u
ur topgear sim had the simc pasted in so im using that
thanks
now do the same thing for enchants if u really want to minmax that but just throw a sophic3 on it and keep doing keys and stuff
gotcha
Top gear is good for comparing gear you DO have (+ vault items), gear compare is for gear you COULD have
and its for doing many changes at once, like u want to completely overhaul ur secondary allocation or something
Are people crafting their 486 this week?
but for A/B changes like this wep vs that wep. this enchant vs that enchant use gear compare
cool
u need droptimizer if ur guild runs wow audit to know - generally - how much dps u get from specific items usually rings with really specific secondary allocations that are sought after or trinkets or weps/items w/ special effects
id do the same lol
poggie
👨🦼

we r gaming still need to craft an aspect crafted piece too
isnt using the renown 20 thing and using the crests on gear
idk
Hello all, are you crafting your 486 today? Wondering if i should or not
Splits or just blasting M+?
i am 12 renown
lil baby renown
anyone know how much damage you gain against demons from gorehowl?
How many demons are there this tier
legendary dropped?
🥜
Can you upgrade two hander wep, if i were to loot a higher ilvl one hander
ive got no clue
yeah once u get the first one offhand doesnt need crests
Need 1500 IO to hit 2K week 2 right?
friendship ended with rampage, bloodbath is my new best friend
Wait you guys dont have 4pc?
nah
wait you guys have tier?
unluckers
I have 0p
imagine having a single piece of tier
aberrus gaming
couldnt be me
honestly abby still bis in m+ low key
tank jail
I got a whopping 3 items from full nm and 5/9 hc
and 0 from m+
ur guild is based
be glad you got something
funnel warr
they forsee the legendary pump
still simming close w/o new set
just be consisntly top player
pumper pumper pumper
we got 3 in nhc/hc/lfr even
we do hero today but i think they wanna give everyone 2pc before 4pc completers
So we aren’t 470..
Maybe do one dungeon…
only 10
what tierset slot are we skipping this tier
Some of us have livesp
im closing in on 40 maybe
dagger is 10k dps..
are yall crafting this week?
Bro you're juiced
write all this down fury or you will 0 parse forever
Holy flashbang
I think fury memorizing arms APL will also leave them 0 parsing tbh
Idk if I can remember even part of these priorities
maybe just "WW when 5 targets without SS on"
I mean they're all super theoretical, like when are you ever going to have a 1EP 2OP MS on 5 targets?
press MS and exe
he's prot spec 🤢
what else could you need
gonna need a weakaura to remind you cast MS if that ever happened
True and real
I forgot to add Cleave.. but is it worth to talent in 10.2?
Idk it can be good to refresh DW with FoB build but I'm not sure how valuable that actually is
Relative to putting that point in BB
yeah
Absolute crackhead i love it
Arms gameplay feels better than I expected
Better than fury thats for sure
People doom too hard on arms ong
Its design is a clusterfuck but the moment-to-moment gameplay is pretty deece
Fury feels like ass rn maybe itll feel better with the new tierset
Fury feels the same as it has the last 6 months without new tierset wym
feels even worse in M+ with 1.5 min burst cooldown
Oh dw i wont be playing fury in m+ with the new tierset
Ill be playing arms and fury in raid
Idk man i wasnt having fun at all during normal raid
Arms in m+ and fury in raid sounds backwards to me
Ahahahhaha
I'll hold onto that rezans so you don't misplace it 
Thank blizzard
just do fury s2 tierset in m+ ez
I tried 453 arms M+ with 471 fury, and I win in AoE, he wins in ST
he wins overall dmg for sure, but not big gap
With t31
ok no problem
Who is 471 fury?
I could see fury being the angle for tyran weeks tbh
Yd
Interesting. Just got me 4 piece last night and haven't simmed differences yet
Homie is zooted wtf
God bless the splits been kind to him
yeah, he is well-geard and rdy for mythic
What's the char name?
we did a 20 DT together, I thought 471 fury gonna beat the shit out of me, but it turns out fine
Yd
If this guy lost to u in m+ maybe hes the problem
Ty gamer
everyone is talking about how tier is so easy to get this patch
i did lfr and normal and dont have one piece yet
xdddd
its easy to get, not easy to loot...
achieve gives you 1, and you can convert 1
thats all
guild is switching to rclootcouncil and fury 2pc is big so maybe they'll funnel me it
🙏
bro we dont play warrior for this shit lolol
🤣
I got lucky and was only one on zenith token, and 3 dropped last night
damn huge
HUGE
mog=dmg+
Maybe i get smolderon sword tonight 
it is... really good
That thing looks sick
Wait what achievement
It does its sexy af
2000 score in M+ or heroic Fyrakk kill or pvp 1800/2100?
cant remember the pvp part
Isnt it 1600
one reward
Damn
Bro thinks blizzard gonna hand him 3 pc for no reason
Hey man
2 pc guaranteed
One can hope
I dont even have time to do normal raid this week so im fucked either way
From what i saw in archis guide we use chest shoulders gloves and helm for tier right?
Not legs
like always
Oki
is arms that ahead of fury with and without t31 atm?
what spark of dream do fury go for?
about 8%
Big fan of your name
arms cope propaganda last boss cleave cope seethe dumb
do warriors want the amulet for there first spark of dreams?
no
what do we get?
shadowflame on a non-tier slot or allied bracers
wait until you done with N/H raiding this week
then see which slot you gonna craft
did you see jjk 242 leaks?
not sure how much I believe it but I love our funny boy
yeah cooking up unimaginable tragedies to befall a high schooler

I will find gege
gege when I find u gege
big fan of the guy who tried to get the taliban to take out gege
okay well thats literally the best one so?
bis
rotation feels so weird with the tier
lmao
stop complaining?
would you guys drop sark cloak to get a normal cloak back on + ilvl. just so you can get extra stam again? i know i lose dps but still
I dislike how AoE just feels less without ravager
i just crafted a cloak with SF patch
but it’s fun
fuck sark cloak
i also had 467 legs that i wanted to equip but my SF patch was there previously so it worked out nicely
so i have sf on boots + belt atm. and i was thinking of making my bracers first cause everyone has been saying make those first
the only reason not to make bracers first is if you already had them crafted from last tier at 447
i hate it too
cause they dont scale with ilvl pretty much at all
@young swan oh ok yeah i have my crafted bracers still from last tier
so since i have those crafted already. i just go for cloak first?
kind of up to you
feels so weird man to just do bloodthirst/smash
cant say if cloak is the best option for you, but it was for me
i just went back to s2 4 piece even tho i have new season tier
Maybe but it feels wway weirder for some reason
swordish gonna steal your hundo like he stole mine
mythic
Might last long enough to stay then, at least as far as public logs
Arms fs
but spears
Unless you're 4p gamer and then fury
Holly Molly who do you raid with?
P sure only ID has killed Igira, no?
but some fights are better suited for fury anyway
Oh conspiracy and honolulu did too
Is it sarri?
470 ilvl jesus
splits are a hell of a drug
Spears are very frequent but idk if it's worth losing 15k sim dps for it
Esp bc you can get some good SS value
You can usually only hit 2 spears at a time anyways
Is it worth to wear 2p/2p or wait for full 4p?
466 ivll no splits, normal and heroic clear
2/2 > 4, though sim ya self
maybe warbreaker arms angle
Seems too greedy imo but worth a shot
ill try some pulls as fury first, think OF lines up with spear spawns
Whats with the weird entrance to raid ?
you havent done the story
complete story
im good thanks
(do before you kill last boss)
For dam or for living?
For dam really the only thing would be to aim your cds to stack with the intermission damage buff
just drop all your bis gear
Is it worht doing pvp to get conqeust for gauntlets so i can have 4 tier?
I don't think hc essence is bis, but I could be wrong

no i have no trinkets
im just bragging anyways
im humble af
452
kek

where is the vendor where u trade crests up?
Enchanter vendor
Who’s joe
hi we're always looking for ilevel first regardless stats ?
Ye
pretty much, but you can sim to be sure
might be a bug or something bc I got the achieve but not there
yeah but it's hard to learn how to sim well :/
It’s not
Type /simc in game
Copy
Go to raidbots
Click top gear
Paste
Click “run sim”
guys a question
how do u find out which race deals the most damage for a spec
do u use sim or what do u do
Race is pretty irrelevant to Dps nowadays
For most specs
But Bloodmallet has race breakdowns I believe
their graphs are based off of sims
so yes u can
but its much easier to just go there for somethingthat is as irrelevant as that
if you really want to just change your race at the top of simc string with underscore in between the words of each race
"blood_elf" as ex
What’s the stat prio with the new tier for fury?
master vers
ok thanks
Step the wrong way and you will perish
Reach for my neck and you’ll be turned into an example
Alternatively you can use this copy paste in an Advanced sim to compare all races at once
Just be sure to fix the races I mentioend under the message
oh pog I didnt even know about that 1
They are that far apart with 4-piece? Is that a trinket bias?
Or your just fully gemmed, enchanted and itemized for arms?
i think new 4 set wants GIGA mastery and vers
Ah
is it worth crafting a 476 instead of using enchanted aspect to get a maxroll? since we got the enchanted wyrm from fyrakk
Vers seems to be trending higher in general as we reach soft caps
4k crit 4k haste 5k mastery not that good for fury
Fun little blurb about the augment rune in my guild discord
Yes
is mastery verse the prio cause of stats we get from tier? or why is it we dont want haste anymore as much
isnt there a 5% mainstat bonus for wearing all the same armor type
There is
thats why it gives more then
Its one of the better ones until you can get the raid trinkets
But as always sim your character
thx
1p gaming
Are switching to t31 talents with 2set ?
yes
in ST 100%, in m+ im not sure
smolderon really feels like rashok 2.0 
but we got it down on HC, plate boots dropped, woyer token, 2h sword and 2x cataclysmic signet trinket
the people that coded Igira are smoking crack
wtf is up with it just randomly swinging at you
bros fury felt so weak today, when lego
what is t31 talents guys?
I'd sim it cause for me its still a loss
you're too close to the tanks. She has a mechanic where her attacks hit both her target and the nearest player to them

You should be attacking her from behind anyways to avoid parries
don't be on top of the tank
yuge
heroic even 
H Smolderon was really fun
it hits the current target + closest to the current target iirc
Is [Gholak, the Final Conflagration] any dood or 2 hands all the way?
like sludgefist
rip my first igira parse then
SMF is doodoo
And indirectly so is that weapon
I thougth so. thx
absolute clusterfuck imo
at least for us
way too overcrowded with the absorb shield breaks and tornadoes
we did 25
what runes are we using now? still the howling ones?
depends on statweights/sims ofc, but overall
the less mechanically inclined players were struggling to get from putting the tornadoes far to baiting on the sides in time
you answered your question yourself with that msg
is there any new info about the legendary ?
Most likely leggo is locked behind mythic world first
They said it would be similar to how Evoker leggo was obtained, at blizzcon
How far behind is SMF if you have hc fyrakk 1h?
HUGE
What combination of WB/imp SS? Or just ethical SoA?
i just played pure ST
Gz on the kill though
big execute
surely
Whithout any set am + spear of bastion is the best build for m+ ?
I've done well. I either blasted or fucking died. Actually kinda funny to look at
do not post an arms parse like that or I’m coming back (very big lie)
I was a duck and got tank frontaled trying to get some grass 😦
being a duck sounds sick
I was doing solid before that tho
Right now, being a duck is funny. Later it's a DPS loss and we don't like that

that boss should drop a toy where ur just a duck with weapons
blizz hire me for 1 billion $
That would be fantastic
i say frack
do people like maximum get exclusive previews on bosses like fyrakk or smth
6 bosses no loot at all, fun stuff
It’s actually frick
before they come out
I wasn't calling him Frack. But I am now
thats fucked up
U get one?
yes
Let's go, gratz bro
I got the normal one, so if one drops I will surely not be getting it
Legendary i can get?
I got hc tier shoulders
and non-tier hc gloves
do I catalyze them instantly or wait for vault
I would catalyze cuz I don't like taking tier out of vault
should you hold cds for smolderon buff 1minute into fight?
hello my lovers
i have a question
if i upgrade a shield to 483
can i upgrade 2h without having to use crests?
i'll most likely only have 1 myth track item in vault
what if they are gloves?
1x myth track m+ and 3x heroic
where do we get the anniversary buff
I don't see it on the top rigth with other buffs if it's already on
you get the token in the mail
Hey guys i know maybe alot of people asked maybe but , do i use 2p and 2p or just wait for 4set to swith to Annihilator ?
and you use it
got it cool
Sorry if am asking for 100 times
use 2pc
for m+ and raid/ST?
Spear kinda dogwater for M+ compared to Roar
It's a lot more likely to not have max value, as in you either don't hit all the targets or have to move out of the spear so you lose the crit bonus
sorry if this has been asked but have yall crafted yet?
yes, allied wrists
cool
porcelain crab simming a lot lower than i'd expect for a 22ilvl upgrade 
porcelain crab doesn't even drop for melee anymore, right?
then I misremembered some wowhead news article
is 2/2 when u swap talents. alot better m+ wise in dps?
with 2pc2pc, are we already swapping to Annihilator or just pick Odyn's Fury instead of Ravager?
is it worth swapping a part i mean to get 2 set asap. even if like champion
swap from what i've seen once you get 2pc
anni
thanks
Does anyone else really like gnarlroot
idk why blizz decided to release this legendary only AFTER a guild beats mythic
So guilds don’t win due to leggo rng
What is the opener with new tier? There is only general rotational guide for this on wowhead but I wonder about opener
why is the pinned notes arms?
its part of the game tho, should be released and everyone gets it and plays as normal
is it intended that the guides are linked to arms in the fury channel?
^
It generates more interest on the RWF
- it's not rly important, all g
470
yo is turning aspect crests into wyrms to upgrade my heroic gnarlroot worth it
shit probably cranks
we wiped on tindral at 8% on our last try 
ofc its important, its bis wepon
Is Arms better for mythics rn?
It'll probably take a month or so to build
doesn't matter
besides having lego would make split raids even stronger than it is
like it really does not, they're just building hype on it
inb4 it's actually shit
I'm pulling like 75k dps with 447 ilvl and am last dps like every mythic by 20-30k
tru and real
it prolly is
lul
at the very leaast its prolly not as strong as ppl think it is i mean look at the aberuss lego
in m+?
yea
It's a player issue, you can do some study in wowhead to alleviate that
people are not hardprogging heroic?
and practioce
I feel like we are slow asf
man idk ive watched a buncha videos and shit, my highest damage abilities are the same as others warriors i've played with, i just dont do as much lmao
Holding for 1 min is indeed incredibly int
Would weapons cause that big of a DPS gap?
i mean weapons matter, but you're doing like half the dps you're supposed to with that ilvl
ive got 437 weaps
unless you play smf with ilvl 150 weapons
the abilities are the same, but you don't use them properly then
Mladyzajicek loool
Hey guys, I was wondering, what stats should I put on my crafted items ? I can't seem to find a definitive answer
Mastery/anythign really
simming is the most accurate number, but with gear changing a lot rn I'd just put haste/mast on it personally
As long as you pick Mastery it doesn't matter as much, but Mastery/Haste or Mastery/Vers generally is the best options
Thanks ❤️
Post log
is that heroic
118.46
poggers
love to see 700k BB's
same here. i know im doing doo doo on my rotation just cant figure it out
Not 900k lol
Do better karenius
gnarlrool
Surely when I get my tier I will also be good 

lOVE DAY 1 LOGS

IMPORTANT
If we have 2 set of the new can we start replacing 2 set of old gear or should we wait?
i was told a couple tiers ago that day 1 logs matter the most cuz "ur getting the log on old tier content so it means u actually play well"
@old harbor ye
u can replace
day 1 logs do not matter even a little bit
Anda you got owned
real
shattered my fragile ego
sorry anda ur dogshit and stinky
😎
lmao nerd
ofc
I don't get ebon might because I have /cancelaura in all my abilities 😎
(I never got targeted by any externals)
#FightBack
fighting back
./cancelaura bloodlust
actually just sabotaging my dps
just buff spongie or?
didnt u ebon might pain when he was bing chilling with a broken keyboard on fyrakk
spawnguy
also IMAGINE your performance being determined by other people playing well
simp moment
Ty
bro on prog
i will legit just buff targeted on pull
then i will just let ion take the wheel
they matter even less actually
did they do any tuning on aberrus after week 1 raid, or did they make everyone wait for some guilds to clear mythic



