#fury

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rotund steppe
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until i get my 2 set even m+ im doing as arms

silent burrow
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It's cranking

solar nebula
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guys, could you give me some tips and trics to increase my dps in M+ and raids? Maybe some macros or skill usage, addons, wa's, something that was not mentioned on wowhead

silent burrow
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I don't have 2 set yet so I'm just chilling until next week to mess with sims between the specs

dim spindle
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Arms warrior #1 on dps rankings confirmed? Oh shit

olive wraith
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I mean we don’t really know what you may be doing wrong

topaz wolf
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Does Crit gain value with 4p T31 + Augury trinket? I understand Crit has no value with the empowered BT/BB due to them being guaranteed crits, but both the 4pc set bonus and the trinket seem to incentivize having a higher crit chance. Is the increased damage on the empowered BT/BB with Mast/Vers worth more than having a lower OF CD (which means more empowerd BT/BB) and higher output from the Augury trinket?

gilded pawn
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Sims can answer that question

dim spindle
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Another seemingly common opinion on the blizzard forums that makes me question humanity : "They nerfed Reckless Abandon! Warrior is dead!"

silent burrow
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but it's buffed wym

rotund steppe
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dum dum people

dim spindle
silent burrow
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Oh lol

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I was like wait a minute

dim spindle
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Sorry I've just been browsing the blizz forums this morning after checking if the D11 ram flooding issue has been fixed, and it's a wild place

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I mean it always has been, but I kinda forgot just how consistent the bad takes are

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Oh and the DX11 issue has been fixed, for the 2 of us that still use it

modest condor
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hey man without the blizz forums we wouldnt have had dagger smf

silent burrow
dim spindle
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off topic but for anyone that knows about this kind of thing, would it be worth for me to buy a Ryzen 5800X3D if/when they go on sale in a week or 2 or should I just spring for an am5 setup. I'm still using a fossilized AM3+ and it's really falling behind these days

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Budget is pretty mid, say $500-600 for the mobo/cpu/ram

rich fjord
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Then definitely stick with an AM4 build

dim spindle
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Alrighty that's what I'm leaning towards atm, I hear good things about the 5800X3d for wow in particular

clever belfry
dire badge
clever belfry
rotund steppe
humble plover
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Maid teach me how to press arms buttons so they can feel like you're still there. Just dumber

glass kelp
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What is the name of the embellishment for the shadowflame ?

meager void
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shadowflame armor patch lol

glass kelp
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thanks

unreal cape
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is there a pin somewhere on discord for the fury T30 rotation?

dire badge
astral idol
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should we go 2+2 or wait till 4set?

red berry
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but you can also get a 13600K for like 200$ if you're patient enough too - you'd have to buy a new MOBO for it granted

celest hearth
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anyonee know how to sim shadowflame armor patch i dont see it pop on professions

mental rune
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2+2 with T31 talents for raid, but probably wait for 4p for M+

median marsh
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What is the best item to use the spaek of dream for?

celest hearth
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trying to find out if i could sim it

astral idol
solemn widget
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spiked counterweight simming higher than OCE?

fluid cedar
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My guild is having me do a loot list for raid. Anyone have any recommendations or potentially sleeper items? Excluding tier

olive wraith
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Gnarlroot trink kinda slaps

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If you don’t have the better trinks

outer bluff
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Weird, my TG sims 5k higher than my SMF but when I test damage, SMF does 10k more damage in a 8 minute DPS window

drifting cloud
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when is it worth to start crafting ?

outer bluff
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Same ilvl, same enchants, correct talents

olive wraith
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I think you’re doing something wrong then

proud vessel
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I know this is not the most accurate representation but is arms ahead because of tier set already or are there other changes i missed?

summer quail
outer bluff
buoyant salmon
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fury gets more value from tier set than arms

solar nebula
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guys, does anyone has or know where to find a good WA for execute? just for that one skill.

proud vessel
buoyant salmon
proud vessel
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ahh

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missed that

humble plover
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Also Ms kinda bussin for sang ngl

olive wraith
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Whirlwind Whirlwind arms

proud vessel
unreal onyx
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did my first "real" key

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ToT +1+18

humble plover
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Mortal strike

unreal onyx
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452ilvl old 4p seramore

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is that acceptable or kinda dogwater dps in s3

humble plover
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It looks good but I haven't been there yet so idk what DPS looks like there

unreal onyx
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I also didn't know that DHs now can burst like 850k DPS

olive wraith
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Dh are cart

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Cray

clever path
unreal onyx
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idk what T it is, but it's aberrus

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I don't keep up with numbers okayge

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ka-ching tier

silent burrow
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That's t30

winter shoal
# unreal onyx ka-ching tier

t31 can still be kaching tier, it's just critcake bc it means you've been so dry on bt crits that bloodcraze has stacked that high

unreal onyx
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just let every new tier be a ka-ching tier

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pls, I beg you blizz

golden hare
winter shoal
unreal onyx
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ka-ching brings dopamine for 0.2s

sage ridge
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What is our BiS tier slots this season?

winter shoal
olive wraith
left perch
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man i really fucked up fury this last tier

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because i mostly pvp'd and ka-ching doesn't really get held

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you just press when you can

golden hare
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stop using "bis lists" !!!!!!!!1

winter shoal
golden hare
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wayt

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wat

left perch
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he said "this but unironically" egar

olive wraith
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4p is better than waiting for “bis” pieces

golden hare
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yeah but that implies i didn't mean it

young swan
golden hare
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oh

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:(

winter shoal
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Thanks Xan

modest condor
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yeah wtf erga

flat river
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best embelishments are vers wrists and shadowflame tempered armor patch?

lavish beacon
mental rune
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Yup, but probably replacing patch with Lariat late in the tier when everything has sockets again

glad plover
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Fury this season just feels "off"

flat river
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how so

fallow wraith
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Does the odyns fury from hitting avatar proc the new tier bonus?

glad plover
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it does

past pivot
fallow wraith
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Is it worth burning BTs from actual odyns fury tier procs before hitting avatar and getting new odyns fury tier procs or no?

olive wraith
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Yes avatar gives us tier stacks

mental rune
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Just wait for the dot to fall off before hitting Ava

olive wraith
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We cast odyns first before avatar

ember apex
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how likely is it to get 9/9H this week. guild is 4/9H w/ 3 hours raided. 3 hours remaning

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we also did normal in those 3hrs

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is smolderBoi a hard wall

olive wraith
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That’s impossible to answer for us

fallow wraith
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Do you make sure to hit the three bloodthirsts from odyns fury before casting avatar?

olive wraith
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We don’t know your group lol

fallow wraith
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Oh sweet, thanks

olive wraith
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Also use it on bloodbath as much as possible

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If you weren’t already

fallow wraith
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Gotcha

upbeat plume
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Do we delay the cast of odyns or avatar anymore or do we just full send pretty much?

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I figured at least a couple seconds foe the dot

gilded pawn
fervent turtle
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heya, rotation question: when one can rampage (not rage capped) after slam or WW, do you rampage to get a BB or do you first BT to maximize BT/BB usage?

silver zealot
glad plover
# past pivot You mean "this season" being just a few days old?

I mean this particular T2/T4 build, combined with Odyns Fury, and Annihilator in my opinion just does not flow well as previous 2 iterations(S1/S2). Its a gameplay thing for me, while I think in general it will do more burst damage, and be more viable in large pull scenarios (M+) and it also seems to have a lot better ST potential, I think Odyns Fury and even annihilator need to be looked at more. As somebody who always played fury, it simply never feels right to not have key to press. As for performance having our damage on 1.5 min, takes away one of ours biggest advantages of having our CDs consistently up no matter the scenario especially in M+. It may be doomer in me but I think we will easily get overshadowed by other classes whos CDs simply do more damage. Last season I knew I will be under on some pulls but I will dish out consistent damage troughout now I just feel "weak"

golden hare
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i'm not gonna read more than 2 sentences but i agree with you

gilded pawn
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Erga

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Top 3 vtuber

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Go

ember apex
glad plover
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Yeah sry for long post

golden hare
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me
mumei
ina

fervent turtle
unreal onyx
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2p t31 and 2p t30 is better in ST, but worse in m+, am I correct?

dark flower
ember apex
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ah ok poggers

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same prob w/ denathrius before the color change

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is taylor swift boss some kind of meme im missing

olive wraith
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Karma is a Druid

rotund steppe
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wow is back

dark flower
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Plater shortens the boss name to T. Swiftclaw or w/e his name is so I’ve heard a lot of people just refer to him as t swift lol

winter shoal
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Unless that's changed in the last couple days

gilded pawn
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Yeah not for the whole db

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You delay for of dot essentially

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And the db is a bonus

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Db lasts too long

winter shoal
winter shoal
gilded pawn
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Ye

dire badge
winter shoal
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Is it you

dire badge
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that’s my #2 behind erga obviously

glad plover
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Also what is a haste range we are talking about?

wintry comet
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Blizzard fears the warrior

gilded pawn
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Erga never streams

golden hare
gilded pawn
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Also the sim misses 1 gcd every 5 minutes

winter shoal
gilded pawn
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There’s no downtime with annil

winter shoal
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You don't rampage every possible opportunity like you do with t30

gilded pawn
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Unless you mess up

glad plover
winter shoal
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Depends on your cd status but probably bt

sudden tusk
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BT on cd unless overapping rage or you have a free crit from tier which you want to send with bloodbath after ramp

winter shoal
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Assuming you're not in reck, if your rage is below 85% (which is 104 I think), you DON'T ramp

fervent turtle
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so you focus entirely on the OF CD reduction and just dump rage with Ramapge?

glad plover
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Ok cool, and also question about opener.

abstract dirge
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do we need to do any quest for legendary to drop? or jsut the quest after

gilded pawn
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No one knows anything about legendary

golden hare
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hope someone at blizzard do...

abstract dirge
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wait, shouldnt it be available rn?

golden hare
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no

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speculation is it will be after RWF

winter shoal
dark ice
unkempt stone
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so im looking at my build for m+ and such and it has these 2 talents, but i rarely ever use bloodthirst. Is it worth taking them if im barely using bloodthirst?

fervent turtle
edgy widget
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Temporary and long term don’t always line up. 🤷‍♂️

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Allied prob better for M+, shadow better for ST in long run

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But by like 0.1-2% ea

gilded pawn
unkempt stone
winter shoal
# fervent turtle hmm not entirely getting it,you could also argue that using Rampage asap generat...

Kind of hard to explain in text, but say you're at 80 rage with slam available. You press rampage > bb > slam > bt > ww > bt; now both slam and ww are on cd and you may not have enough rage to rampage again

BUT if instead of rampaging first you do (starting with 80 rage) slam > bt > ramp (now at like 125 rage or something) > bb > ww > bt > slam > bt, you should be back above 80 rage and able to rampage again

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So you basically get 2 rampages instead of 1

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Because your slam cd was recharging during your first rampage

gilded pawn
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Yep

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Just putting more abilities on cd

hardy monolith
fervent turtle
winter shoal
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You won't have enough rage generation (outside of reck) to rampage that frequently

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I think you have the right idea of basically alternating bt + slam/ww, the important bit is more that you should use another bt + filler if it's not going to overcap your rage so that you can avoid having gcds with everything on cooldown later on

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There's no harm in pressing slam + bt before your rampage if it doesn't overcap your rage, and that makes it much less likely that you hit an empty gcd later on (which means your overall rage generation will be higher because you'll have more slam/ww to press, which means more rampages overall)

fervent turtle
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to break it down my idea is basically using BT/BB every 2nd gcd

edgy widget
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whether you have a lot/little of vers, etc

fervent turtle
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and for the rest its Rampage > slam > ww

winter shoal
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That is mostly correct, but if you just rampage whenever you have rage to do it, you're going to hit periods where your bt, slam, and ww are all on cooldown at the same time, and you just have to wait 1 gcd to bt again

fervent turtle
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idk, at least on the dummy i never ran into such scenario.

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but yeah, generally i think the idea is clear, thx for elaborating on that for me 🙂

twin wedge
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is arms outperforming fury in m+ rn?

oblique trail
winter shoal
oblique trail
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I imagine you can just swap it over to Ashen + Massacre instead

glad plover
winter shoal
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It's fun, you press whirlwind

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That's basically it

clever path
glad plover
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Ok tnx guys.

twin wedge
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ok ill mess around on it

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and see which i get better performance from

edgy widget
winter shoal
# edgy widget there are guides in the pins

I think some people might be confused because

  1. It's only listed under t31 (granted there are a few talent changes between t31 and t30), and
  2. It's called "multitarget fervor" and I think people might be looking for "whirlwind" or "collateral" or something
sudden tusk
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ferver is what the entire build is built around thoo

winter shoal
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Yes

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But I think people see arms warriors going ww ww ww ww ww and say "I want to try the whirlwind build" esp since fervor has been a dead talent all expac

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Like a ton of people in #arms have asked "what is fervor" in the last week lol

edgy widget
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and we're moving into T31, you could play the build with T30, but frankly... why; fervor is not the T30 playstyle

winter shoal
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Because Whirlwind

edgy widget
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ok, but that's a stupid reason

winter shoal
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I agree with you tbh, just identifying why (I think) people might be confused

edgy widget
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not quite sure I'd call that a ton of people lol

winter shoal
zinc sedge
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where is the talents craft items embelishments ext.

unreal onyx
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2017 letsgoo

silver zealot
ember apex
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poggers

edgy widget
past pivot
edgy widget
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also that's an acronym, ofc more people are going to be confused as to what an acronym stands for

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difference in not knowing what FoB means and not knowing what Fervor means, so I'm not sure that's really indicative of anything, nor related to the guides

winter shoal
edgy widget
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stop linking the build all morning

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just direct them to the pins/guides lol

ember apex
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whats going to be stronger overall damage in keys the arms WW build or fury M+ t31 build with full t31? assuming same ilvl for both and 4p for both

winter shoal
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I've tried that too

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I can't win with these cats

edgy widget
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welcome to my world lol

winter shoal
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Despairge

robust leaf
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Guys

edgy widget
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I'll improve the guide wording to make them a little more obvious

robust leaf
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do i need to craft embeleshment first week ?

nimble basin
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Arch everyone should have a 'check the pins' flair by default.

ember apex
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craft ur vers bracers

robust leaf
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doenst sim better than the cloak since i have hero track brcaers atm

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i thought i'm gonna go for the colak shadowflame

ember apex
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idk then sit on it if u dont need to minmax damage by week 2

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check what ppl are doing on logs when we get our 2nd spark

robust leaf
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we have 2 choices bracers and shadowflame

primal bane
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can anyone tell me at what ilv you would replace a 441 ashkandor?

ember apex
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bracers are good b/c they also add defense

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i would replace 441 ashkandur the second i got an upgrade

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i have 447/441Ash

oblique trail
rich rock
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What embellishments do we use?

ember apex
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vers bracers / shadowflame

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but check logs to see what ppl are doing after we get 2nd spark

rich rock
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thanks

primal bane
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my sims say its a 2.4k dps loss

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that cant be right

ember apex
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link ur stuff

primal bane
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and thats with a 463 off hand

upbeat plume
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Yeah I had the same issue

modest talon
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is arms better? i see all big wars being arms in m+ & raid atm

upbeat plume
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450 ash beating a 463 off hand

modest breach
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4 old p or 2/2 for m+?

primal bane
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441

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not even 450

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old set

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dont have new tier yet

upbeat plume
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Yeah I was giving my details and saying was getting the same bs lol hell mines even more of a dps loss it was like 3.5k

winter shoal
primal bane
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so like are sims messed up or what i feel like 441 shouldnt beat a 463

ember apex
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just realized i was looking at a top gear

dry halo
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Sorry i might not see it but what is the build when we have 2tier + 2 tier?

upbeat plume
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Anni

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For raid at least

dry halo
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So jsut normal 31t raid build on wowhead?

upbeat plume
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Yep that's the one

edgy widget
dry halo
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allright thanks

ember apex
past pivot
edgy widget
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Idk if he is or not, but yeah - if you see weird results, the best first step is to eliminate extra factors

ember apex
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like all he wants to know is do i replace my 441 ash w/ this 463 weapon i got from eBay

brittle crow
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how long did the other .5 patches take to come out

primal bane
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okay i'll try that

edgy widget
ember apex
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yeah just compare that one specific thing

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leave enchants the same etc...

upbeat plume
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I didn't think about gear compare that's a good idea

ember apex
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assume the enchants are 100% right once u know that 1 wep is better w/ the same enchants then sim changing enchants

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but honestly

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ur better just doing whatever u can to spam ilvl

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u can focus on minmaxing enchants and secondaries once ur at or near max ilvl

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u can move that around with gems in neck, gems in gear, ring enchants, etc....

primal bane
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that just the weap and enchant variations

ember apex
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thats another top gear report

primal bane
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i mean isnt that what i should use to check gear against other gear

ember apex
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no im running it for u

past pivot
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I'd run Droptimizer or Gear Compare if you're just talking weapons

ember apex
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ur simming 1 change against another

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its an A/B test

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A or B

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once u know A or B u run another A/B test for enchants

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im running the sim for u

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ur topgear sim had the simc pasted in so im using that

primal bane
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thanks

ember apex
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now do the same thing for enchants if u really want to minmax that but just throw a sophic3 on it and keep doing keys and stuff

primal bane
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right

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so what is top gear good for vualt?

ember apex
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lets say u have an inventory full of end game items

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run a top gear report

primal bane
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gotcha

winter shoal
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Top gear is good for comparing gear you DO have (+ vault items), gear compare is for gear you COULD have

ember apex
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and its for doing many changes at once, like u want to completely overhaul ur secondary allocation or something

idle ravine
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Are people crafting their 486 this week?

ember apex
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but for A/B changes like this wep vs that wep. this enchant vs that enchant use gear compare

primal bane
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cool

floral oak
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fury warrior in my pug wouldnt trade his curio for fyrakk trinket

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psycho behaviour

ember apex
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u need droptimizer if ur guild runs wow audit to know - generally - how much dps u get from specific items usually rings with really specific secondary allocations that are sought after or trinkets or weps/items w/ special effects

fading bane
balmy shore
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poggie

dapper goblet
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👨‍🦼

eternal sundial
balmy shore
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we r gaming still need to craft an aspect crafted piece too

eternal sundial
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idk

idle ravine
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Hello all, are you crafting your 486 today? Wondering if i should or not

winter shoal
balmy shore
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lil baby renown

balmy shore
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we are 5/9 heroic

winter shoal
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Same xdd

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I'm only 456 thoguh

summer quail
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anyone know how much damage you gain against demons from gorehowl?

gilded pawn
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How many demons are there this tier

fading crater
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legendary dropped?

dark flower
fading bane
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Can you upgrade two hander wep, if i were to loot a higher ilvl one hander

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ive got no clue

floral oak
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yeah once u get the first one offhand doesnt need crests

waxen wave
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Need 1500 IO to hit 2K week 2 right?

unreal onyx
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you can be 2k io rn already

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if you are a gamer

chrome relic
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friendship ended with rampage, bloodbath is my new best friend

fading bane
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Wait you guys dont have 4pc?

chrome relic
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nah

unreal onyx
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wait you guys have tier?

chrome relic
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unluckers

unreal onyx
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I have 0p

young swan
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imagine having a single piece of tier

unreal onyx
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aberrus gaming

young swan
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couldnt be me

fading bane
chrome relic
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honestly abby still bis in m+ low key

fading bane
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tank jail

young swan
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split doer

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perish

unreal onyx
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I got a whopping 3 items from full nm and 5/9 hc

fading bane
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nope

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no splits

unreal onyx
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and 0 from m+

chrome relic
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ur guild is based

wispy thistle
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be glad you got something

unreal onyx
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funnel warr

chrome relic
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they forsee the legendary pump

placid current
fading bane
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just be consisntly top player

chrome relic
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pumper pumper pumper

fading bane
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we got like 6 zenith

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tokens tbf

chrome relic
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chad drops

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we got one

placid current
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we got 3 in nhc/hc/lfr even

chrome relic
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we do hero today but i think they wanna give everyone 2pc before 4pc completers

fleet sorrel
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Maybe do one dungeon…

sinful spoke
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Ive done more than 10 keys

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Got a cloak and a mediocre trinket

fading bane
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only 10

haughty basin
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what tierset slot are we skipping this tier

sinful spoke
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Some of us have livesp

fading bane
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im closing in on 40 maybe

fleet sorrel
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dagger is 10k dps..

fading bane
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nah not that much

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30 prob

limber crown
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are yall crafting this week?

fading bane
winter shoal
twilit hinge
dire badge
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write all this down fury or you will 0 parse forever

winter shoal
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Holy flashbang

winter shoal
twilit hinge
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Idk if I can remember even part of these priorities

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maybe just "WW when 5 targets without SS on"

winter shoal
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I mean they're all super theoretical, like when are you ever going to have a 1EP 2OP MS on 5 targets?

unreal onyx
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press MS and exe

dark flower
unreal onyx
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what else could you need

twilit hinge
twilit hinge
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I forgot to add Cleave.. but is it worth to talent in 10.2?

winter shoal
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Idk it can be good to refresh DW with FoB build but I'm not sure how valuable that actually is

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Relative to putting that point in BB

twilit hinge
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yeah

sinful spoke
twilit hinge
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Arms gameplay feels better than I expected

sinful spoke
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Better than fury thats for sure

winter shoal
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People doom too hard on arms ong

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Its design is a clusterfuck but the moment-to-moment gameplay is pretty deece

sinful spoke
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Fury feels like ass rn maybe itll feel better with the new tierset

winter shoal
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Fury feels the same as it has the last 6 months without new tierset wym

twilit hinge
sinful spoke
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Oh dw i wont be playing fury in m+ with the new tierset

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Ill be playing arms and fury in raid

twilit hinge
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LMAO

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im more of a M+ guy, so new tierset fury feels kinda weak

sinful spoke
fallow wraith
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Arms in m+ and fury in raid sounds backwards to me

sinful spoke
dark flower
sinful spoke
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Thank blizzard

manic iris
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just do fury s2 tierset in m+ ez

sinful spoke
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This guy is a genius

twilit hinge
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he wins overall dmg for sure, but not big gap

winter shoal
tacit crag
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Who is 471 fury?

winter shoal
twilit hinge
fallow wraith
#

Interesting. Just got me 4 piece last night and haven't simmed differences yet

winter shoal
tacit crag
twilit hinge
#

yeah, he is well-geard and rdy for mythic

winter shoal
#

What's the char name?

twilit hinge
#

we did a 20 DT together, I thought 471 fury gonna beat the shit out of me, but it turns out fine

twilit hinge
sinful spoke
twilit hinge
winter shoal
#

Ty gamer

brittle crow
#

everyone is talking about how tier is so easy to get this patch

#

i did lfr and normal and dont have one piece yet

#

xdddd

twilit hinge
#

achieve gives you 1, and you can convert 1

#

thats all

brittle crow
#

guild is switching to rclootcouncil and fury 2pc is big so maybe they'll funnel me it

#

🙏

wheat nymph
twilit hinge
fallow wraith
#

I got lucky and was only one on zenith token, and 3 dropped last night

brittle crow
#

damn huge

sinful spoke
#

I got a heroic int dagger for mog

brittle crow
#

HUGE

twilit hinge
#

mog=dmg+

sinful spoke
#

Maybe i get smolderon sword tonight copium

tawny zealot
#

it is... really good

winter shoal
warm pewter
sinful spoke
twilit hinge
#

cant remember the pvp part

sinful spoke
#

Isnt it 1600

warm pewter
#

So what if i get 2k score + do pvp do i get 2 set pieces?

#

Or only one reward

sinful spoke
#

No

#

One

twilit hinge
#

one reward

warm pewter
#

Damn

sinful spoke
#

Bro thinks blizzard gonna hand him 3 pc for no reason

warm pewter
#

Hey man

twilit hinge
#

2 pc guaranteed

warm pewter
#

One can hope

#

I dont even have time to do normal raid this week so im fucked either way

sinful spoke
#

From what i saw in archis guide we use chest shoulders gloves and helm for tier right?

#

Not legs

twilit hinge
#

like always

sinful spoke
#

Oki

modest talon
#

is arms that ahead of fury with and without t31 atm?

autumn smelt
#

what spark of dream do fury go for?

modest talon
#

both raid and m+?

#

and thanks for the replying

young swan
#

no

#

mostly just ST

warm pewter
#

Big fan of your name

dapper goblet
#

arms cope propaganda last boss cleave cope seethe dumb

autumn smelt
#

do warriors want the amulet for there first spark of dreams?

young swan
#

no

autumn smelt
#

what do we get?

young swan
#

shadowflame on a non-tier slot or allied bracers

twilit hinge
#

wait until you done with N/H raiding this week

twilit hinge
dire badge
young swan
#

literally

dire badge
#

supposedly 4 more chapters

young swan
#

i just wanna cut back to the good shit man

dire badge
#

not sure how much I believe it but I love our funny boy

young swan
#

he probably cooking it up while hes writing this fight anyways

#

so its cool

dire badge
#

yeah cooking up unimaginable tragedies to befall a high schooler

young swan
dire badge
#

I will find gege

young swan
#

cant wait

#

gege when i find u gege

dire badge
#

gege when I find u gege

young swan
#

big fan of the guy who tried to get the taliban to take out gege

flat sapphire
#

only drop ive gottren all raid

young swan
#

okay well thats literally the best one so?

modest talon
#

bis

dry halo
#

rotation feels so weird with the tier

flat sapphire
#

lmao

young swan
#

stop complaining?

modest talon
#

only drops that stsa sforever

#

stays*

flat sapphire
#

I like it but I want gear

#

I need my tier

lucid owl
#

would you guys drop sark cloak to get a normal cloak back on + ilvl. just so you can get extra stam again? i know i lose dps but still

red berry
#

I dislike how AoE just feels less without ravager

young swan
red berry
#

but it’s fun

young swan
#

fuck sark cloak

#

i also had 467 legs that i wanted to equip but my SF patch was there previously so it worked out nicely

lucid owl
#

so i have sf on boots + belt atm. and i was thinking of making my bracers first cause everyone has been saying make those first

young swan
#

the only reason not to make bracers first is if you already had them crafted from last tier at 447

manic iris
young swan
#

cause they dont scale with ilvl pretty much at all

lucid owl
#

@young swan oh ok yeah i have my crafted bracers still from last tier
so since i have those crafted already. i just go for cloak first?

young swan
#

kind of up to you

dry halo
young swan
#

cant say if cloak is the best option for you, but it was for me

manic iris
#

i just went back to s2 4 piece even tho i have new season tier

red berry
#

tbh its the same thing as raging blow/rampage

#

we just traded buttons

dry halo
#

Maybe but it feels wway weirder for some reason

frosty karma
#

poggers im a gamer

#

didnt even know how to play this set keks

winter shoal
frosty karma
#

yea its gonna be a 90 when ppl start raiding

winter shoal
#

Mythic?

#

Or hc

frosty karma
#

mythic

winter shoal
#

Might last long enough to stay then, at least as far as public logs

frosty karma
#

no igira parses

#

no idea what to play

winter shoal
#

Arms fs

frosty karma
#

but spears

winter shoal
#

Unless you're 4p gamer and then fury

coarse nest
#

Holly Molly who do you raid with?

frosty karma
#

my arms is 180k sim, fury 165

#

with new 4 set

winter shoal
#

P sure only ID has killed Igira, no?

frosty karma
#

but some fights are better suited for fury anyway

winter shoal
#

Oh conspiracy and honolulu did too

frosty karma
#

i see one warrior parse

#

and hes arms

winter shoal
#

Is it sarri?

frosty karma
#

470 ilvl jesus

young swan
winter shoal
#

Spears are very frequent but idk if it's worth losing 15k sim dps for it

#

Esp bc you can get some good SS value

#

You can usually only hit 2 spears at a time anyways

plucky ivy
#

Is it worth to wear 2p/2p or wait for full 4p?

frosty karma
#

466 ivll no splits, normal and heroic clear

wary fjord
#

2/2 > 4, though sim ya self

frosty karma
#

maybe warbreaker arms angle

winter shoal
#

Seems too greedy imo but worth a shot

frosty karma
#

ill try some pulls as fury first, think OF lines up with spear spawns

dark ice
#

Whats with the weird entrance to raid ?

fickle bluff
#

you havent done the story

idle ravine
#

complete story

dark ice
#

im good thanks

idle ravine
#

(do before you kill last boss)

unreal onyx
#

gamers, any hidden tech for smolderon?

#

hc

winter shoal
#

For dam or for living?

#

For dam really the only thing would be to aim your cds to stack with the intermission damage buff

stark apex
#

just drop all your bis gear

dry halo
#

Is it worht doing pvp to get conqeust for gauntlets so i can have 4 tier?

unreal onyx
winter shoal
stark apex
#

im just bragging anyways

#

im humble af

unreal onyx
#

this is a flex setup

dire badge
#

User is 450 ilvl

unreal onyx
#

452

stark apex
#

kek

unreal onyx
hardy cargo
#

where is the vendor where u trade crests up?

tired mica
#

Enchanter vendor

hasty path
#

Who’s joe

gaunt scarab
#

hi we're always looking for ilevel first regardless stats ?

gilded pawn
#

Ye

unreal onyx
#

pretty much, but you can sim to be sure

hardy cargo
#

might be a bug or something bc I got the achieve but not there

gaunt scarab
#

yeah but it's hard to learn how to sim well :/

hasty path
#

It’s not

#

Type /simc in game

#

Copy

#

Go to raidbots

#

Click top gear

#

Paste

#

Click “run sim”

paper ivy
#

guys a question

#

how do u find out which race deals the most damage for a spec

#

do u use sim or what do u do

hasty path
#

Race is pretty irrelevant to Dps nowadays

#

For most specs

#

But Bloodmallet has race breakdowns I believe

flat sapphire
#

oke nvm

#

we goign somewhere

paper ivy
#

so u can not sim it?

hardy cargo
#

their graphs are based off of sims

#

so yes u can

#

but its much easier to just go there for somethingthat is as irrelevant as that

#

if you really want to just change your race at the top of simc string with underscore in between the words of each race

#

"blood_elf" as ex

signal epoch
#

What’s the stat prio with the new tier for fury?

paper ivy
#

master vers

paper ivy
hardy cargo
#

and zanda troll requires u to put ur loa in the race line

#

btw

covert blaze
hasty path
oblique trail
# paper ivy ok thanks

Alternatively you can use this copy paste in an Advanced sim to compare all races at once

#

Just be sure to fix the races I mentioend under the message

hardy cargo
#

oh pog I didnt even know about that 1

frail trout
#

Or your just fully gemmed, enchanted and itemized for arms?

frosty karma
#

i think new 4 set wants GIGA mastery and vers

frail trout
#

Ah

frosty karma
#

pieces with high mastery droptimizer says +6k dps

#

for a helmet

lucid owl
#

is it worth crafting a 476 instead of using enchanted aspect to get a maxroll? since we got the enchanted wyrm from fyrakk

frail trout
#

Vers seems to be trending higher in general as we reach soft caps

frosty karma
#

4k crit 4k haste 5k mastery not that good for fury

peak bloom
#

Fun little blurb about the augment rune in my guild discord

terse ether
#

I assume 2p 2p worth and change to ST31 talents

#

or I should not break the T30 4p?

lucid owl
#

is mastery verse the prio cause of stats we get from tier? or why is it we dont want haste anymore as much

frosty karma
#

isnt there a 5% mainstat bonus for wearing all the same armor type

oblique trail
#

There is

frosty karma
#

thats why it gives more then

proud vessel
#

Just got this, is it worth upgrading you think?

warm pewter
#

Its one of the better ones until you can get the raid trinkets

#

But as always sim your character

proud vessel
#

thx

unreal onyx
#

1p gaming

shrewd tangle
#

Are switching to t31 talents with 2set ?

unreal onyx
#

yes

#

in ST 100%, in m+ im not sure

#

smolderon really feels like rashok 2.0 seramore

#

but we got it down on HC, plate boots dropped, woyer token, 2h sword and 2x cataclysmic signet trinket

errant vessel
#

the people that coded Igira are smoking crack

#

wtf is up with it just randomly swinging at you

plucky ice
#

bros fury felt so weak today, when lego

marble grove
#

what is t31 talents guys?

willow cradle
unreal onyx
#

we gamin big time

winter shoal
willow cradle
winter shoal
#

You should be attacking her from behind anyways to avoid parries

covert blaze
unreal onyx
#

heroic even gladge

covert blaze
#

H Smolderon was really fun

errant vessel
#

oh so tank was facing the melees there

#

same happened last pull to another guy

covert blaze
#

it hits the current target + closest to the current target iirc

mystic flume
#

Is [Gholak, the Final Conflagration] any dood or 2 hands all the way?

covert blaze
#

like sludgefist

errant vessel
#

rip my first igira parse then

oblique trail
#

And indirectly so is that weapon

mystic flume
#

I thougth so. thx

unreal onyx
#

at least for us

#

way too overcrowded with the absorb shield breaks and tornadoes

covert blaze
#

we did it 30 man

#

there were a lot of tornadoes lol

unreal onyx
#

we did 25

shell jackal
#

what runes are we using now? still the howling ones?

#

depends on statweights/sims ofc, but overall

covert blaze
#

the less mechanically inclined players were struggling to get from putting the tornadoes far to baiting on the sides in time

unreal onyx
shell jackal
#

ok thank you

#

more work

fervent walrus
#

is there any new info about the legendary ?

turbid needle
#

fuck this bullshit man

#

what is it with raidleaders and giving tier to shit people

fallow wraith
#

Most likely leggo is locked behind mythic world first

#

They said it would be similar to how Evoker leggo was obtained, at blizzcon

grim thicket
#

How far behind is SMF if you have hc fyrakk 1h?

primal bane
frosty karma
#

i choose to play arms on igira

#

keks i died to aoe damage though

#

rank 2 of 2

winter shoal
frosty karma
#

i just played pure ST

winter shoal
#

Gz on the kill though

frosty karma
#

big execute

unreal onyx
#

so far im ok with my performance

#

(with t30)

#

surely we kill tindral hc now too clueless

dire badge
#

surely

neon musk
#

Whithout any set am + spear of bastion is the best build for m+ ?

humble plover
#

I've done well. I either blasted or fucking died. Actually kinda funny to look at

dire badge
#

do not post an arms parse like that or I’m coming back (very big lie)

humble plover
#

I was a duck and got tank frontaled trying to get some grass 😦

dire badge
#

being a duck sounds sick

humble plover
#

I was doing solid before that tho

#

Right now, being a duck is funny. Later it's a DPS loss and we don't like that

dire badge
#

that boss should drop a toy where ur just a duck with weapons

#

blizz hire me for 1 billion $

humble plover
#

That would be fantastic

brittle crow
#

bro why does everyone say fy-rakk

#

his name is PRONOUNCED MULTIPLE TIMES

upbeat plank
#

i say frack

brittle crow
#

its fur-rawk

#

😡

upbeat plank
#

imma still say frack

#

Ty for letting me kno tho

brittle crow
#

do people like maximum get exclusive previews on bosses like fyrakk or smth

subtle lagoon
#

6 bosses no loot at all, fun stuff

dire badge
#

It’s actually frick

brittle crow
#

before they come out

humble plover
#

I wasn't calling him Frack. But I am now

brittle crow
#

thats fucked up

unreal onyx
#

2x cataclysmic signet dropped on hc smolderon

#

2x went to woyers

humble plover
#

U get one?

unreal onyx
#

yes

humble plover
#

Let's go, gratz bro

unreal onyx
#

big W

#

that's not even upgraded

humble plover
#

I got the normal one, so if one drops I will surely not be getting it

unreal onyx
#

weap also dropped

#

but went to a filthy ret

clear gulch
#

Legendary i can get?

dire badge
unreal onyx
#

453.6

chrome plover
#

455.3

unreal onyx
#

I got hc tier shoulders

#

and non-tier hc gloves

#

do I catalyze them instantly or wait for vault

humble plover
#

I would catalyze cuz I don't like taking tier out of vault

forest owl
#

should you hold cds for smolderon buff 1minute into fight?

turbid needle
#

hello my lovers

#

i have a question

#

if i upgrade a shield to 483

#

can i upgrade 2h without having to use crests?

unreal onyx
#

I don't think so

#

but idk

chrome plover
#

NO

#

caps

unreal onyx
#

what if they are gloves?

#

1x myth track m+ and 3x heroic

slim coral
#

where do we get the anniversary buff

#

I don't see it on the top rigth with other buffs if it's already on

cerulean bronze
#

Mail

slim coral
#

oh I got it

#

DO I have to go to the cvaerns of time

#

or is it that item in the mail

unreal onyx
#

you get the token in the mail

quartz veldt
#

Hey guys i know maybe alot of people asked maybe but , do i use 2p and 2p or just wait for 4set to swith to Annihilator ?

unreal onyx
#

and you use it

slim coral
#

got it cool

quartz veldt
#

Sorry if am asking for 100 times

slim coral
#

use 2pc

unreal onyx
#

for m+ and raid/ST?

quartz veldt
#

raid

#

if ur asking me lol

#

😄

oblique trail
#

It's a lot more likely to not have max value, as in you either don't hit all the targets or have to move out of the spear so you lose the crit bonus

limber crown
#

sorry if this has been asked but have yall crafted yet?

oblique trail
#

yes, allied wrists

limber crown
#

cool

proud leaf
#

porcelain crab simming a lot lower than i'd expect for a 22ilvl upgrade sadge

unreal onyx
#

porcelain crab doesn't even drop for melee anymore, right?

proud leaf
#

it just did, arms loot spec

unreal onyx
#

then I misremembered some wowhead news article

chrome summit
#

is 2/2 when u swap talents. alot better m+ wise in dps?

nimble pewter
#

with 2pc2pc, are we already swapping to Annihilator or just pick Odyn's Fury instead of Ravager?

chrome summit
#

is it worth swapping a part i mean to get 2 set asap. even if like champion

proud leaf
#

swap from what i've seen once you get 2pc

nimble pewter
#

thanks

olive wraith
#

Does anyone else really like gnarlroot

unreal onyx
#

it's ok for a first boss

#

more mechanics than I expected

spark maple
#

idk why blizz decided to release this legendary only AFTER a guild beats mythic

gilded pawn
#

So guilds don’t win due to leggo rng

void wharf
#

What is the opener with new tier? There is only general rotational guide for this on wowhead but I wonder about opener

thorny peak
#

why is the pinned notes arms?

spark maple
unreal onyx
#

is it intended that the guides are linked to arms in the fury channel?

thorny peak
#

^

sullen wagon
#
  • it's not rly important, all g
unreal onyx
#

I thought it can drop already

#

but at insanely low odds

compact knot
#

470

#

yo is turning aspect crests into wyrms to upgrade my heroic gnarlroot worth it

#

shit probably cranks

unreal onyx
#

we wiped on tindral at 8% on our last try sadge

spark maple
thorny peak
#

its a bonus its not 'needed'

#

especially at that level

chrome vault
#

Is Arms better for mythics rn?

sullen wagon
#

doesn't matter

thorny peak
#

besides having lego would make split raids even stronger than it is

sullen wagon
#

like it really does not, they're just building hype on it

unreal onyx
#

inb4 it's actually shit

chrome vault
#

I'm pulling like 75k dps with 447 ilvl and am last dps like every mythic by 20-30k

sullen wagon
#

tru and real

thorny peak
#

it prolly is

dark ice
thorny peak
#

at the very leaast its prolly not as strong as ppl think it is i mean look at the aberuss lego

chrome vault
unreal onyx
#

not really a spec issue then

#

you don't do your rotation correctly most likely

sullen wagon
#

It's a player issue, you can do some study in wowhead to alleviate that

unreal onyx
#

people are not hardprogging heroic?

thorny peak
#

and practioce

unreal onyx
#

I feel like we are slow asf

forest owl
#

do we hold cds on smolderon for 1st dmg buff?

#

seems kinda int holding for 1 min

unreal onyx
#

I didn't hold

#

but our kill was very messy anyway

chrome vault
#

man idk ive watched a buncha videos and shit, my highest damage abilities are the same as others warriors i've played with, i just dont do as much lmao

oblique trail
chrome vault
#

Would weapons cause that big of a DPS gap?

unreal onyx
#

weapons are very important for warrior dps

#

but I doubt that's the issue

modest condor
#

i mean weapons matter, but you're doing like half the dps you're supposed to with that ilvl

chrome vault
#

ive got 437 weaps

unreal onyx
#

unless you play smf with ilvl 150 weapons

unreal onyx
shy knot
latent matrix
#

Hey guys, I was wondering, what stats should I put on my crafted items ? I can't seem to find a definitive answer

chrome vault
#

Enchants are a nyth

#

myth

unreal onyx
oblique trail
#

As long as you pick Mastery it doesn't matter as much, but Mastery/Haste or Mastery/Vers generally is the best options

latent matrix
#

Thanks ❤️

rotund ginkgo
#

LETS

#

FUCKING

#

GO

#

BOYS

rotund ginkgo
#

FUCK

#

I ONLY HAVE THE LAST 40% OF THE BOSS

#

RECORDED

covert blaze
#

is that heroic

fickle bluff
rotund ginkgo
#

it is

covert blaze
#

poggers

rotund ginkgo
#

yessir

#

got a rank 6 gnarlroot

frosty karma
#

love to see 700k BB's

torn spoke
frosty karma
#

that shit cranks in execute keks

sinful spoke
#

Not 900k lol

frosty karma
#

its crazy that melee is basically doing 25k DPS

#

on its on

sinful spoke
#

Do better karenius

frosty karma
#

gnarlrool

rotund ginkgo
#

cursed grey log

#

dont ask : - )

unreal onyx
#

Surely when I get my tier I will also be good copium

clever belfry
oblique trail
rotund ginkgo
#

purple logs anda?

clever belfry
#

lOVE DAY 1 LOGS

compact knot
clever belfry
#

IMPORTANT

old harbor
#

If we have 2 set of the new can we start replacing 2 set of old gear or should we wait?

rotund ginkgo
#

i was told a couple tiers ago that day 1 logs matter the most cuz "ur getting the log on old tier content so it means u actually play well"

#

@old harbor ye

#

u can replace

young swan
#

day 1 logs do not matter even a little bit

clever belfry
#

oh really

#

damn

oblique trail
#

Anda you got owned

clever belfry
#

real

warm crag
young swan
#

sorry anda ur dogshit and stinky

oblique trail
#

2 purple logs

#

you are done

#

it's over

clever belfry
#

real

#

smolderon m y rogues trolled me

warm crag
#

anda gave me ebon might though ... at 30% boss hp .,.

#

i MUST fight back

clever belfry
#

😎

modest condor
#

lmao nerd

clever belfry
#

ofc

oblique trail
#

I don't get ebon might because I have /cancelaura in all my abilities 😎

#

(I never got targeted by any externals)

clever belfry
#

#FightBack

warm crag
#

./cancelaura Draconic Augmentation

#

fight all forms of augments

oblique trail
#

fighting back

clever belfry
#

bro my rogues on smolderon trolled me

#

DMG BUFF COMING UP

#

CD S READY

modest condor
#

./cancelaura bloodlust

clever belfry
#

time to BUFF

#

one died

modest condor
#

no externals here

#

all natty

clever belfry
#

the other didnt press

#

gg

young swan
#

wtf

#

lmfao

#

u got owned

#

actually

clever belfry
#

actually just sabotaging my dps

oblique trail
#

just buff spongie or?

warm crag
#

didnt u ebon might pain when he was bing chilling with a broken keyboard on fyrakk

young swan
#

spawnguy

oblique trail
#

simp moment

old harbor
clever belfry
#

bro on prog

#

i will legit just buff targeted on pull

#

then i will just let ion take the wheel

young swan
#

they matter even less actually

frank dawn
#

did they do any tuning on aberrus after week 1 raid, or did they make everyone wait for some guilds to clear mythic

warm crag
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what is the least relevant log day

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can you maybe plot the graph of log relevancy please