#fury

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clever belfry
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MA35nu08+#

oblique trail
south kayak
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wait, are you playing CD?

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crit

dense elbow
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Titanic Rage sadge

clever belfry
oblique trail
south kayak
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113k ww tick

mossy fox
south kayak
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:woo

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im broke

mossy fox
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should make one of these where the two things she's holding is just ww icons

south kayak
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so arms def does more burst aoe than fury

oblique trail
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Arms does a lot of burst atm yes

south kayak
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feels like arms might be better than fury in m+

hasty tree
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How is the ST damage in keys of FOB against fury’s st numbers?

south kayak
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SP damage

iron portal
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Hidden effect : has chance to open rift to better times

mossy fox
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oh this was the UR protcake did

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fun key

south kayak
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what's with the shadow priests' damage

mossy fox
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idk but he caught up later

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vnv still top by far

south kayak
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current prot 4p is pretty good

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the earthern thingy

mossy fox
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yeah it's tons of fun to play with

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sad it's going away

south kayak
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i didn't mean to tag you there

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weird

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sorry

dense elbow
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Reported

south kayak
glad coyote
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hopefully servers come up early today

restive peak
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We are READY BOIS LETS GAAAMEEEEEE

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In like 5 hours

dense elbow
south kayak
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im eu

glad coyote
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sucks to suck

south kayak
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true

dense elbow
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We are all EU xan

glad coyote
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whats the weather there?

south kayak
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EU is the friends we made a long the way

dense elbow
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Snow, with chilly winds, some sun shining through

restive peak
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Bout to waltz into raid in full m20 gear just gamin

glad coyote
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great wow weather

south kayak
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sadly don't have a grp for m+

dense elbow
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Just pug okayge

south kayak
subtle lagoon
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Yeah just spend 5 hours in valdrakken

iron portal
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5 warriors m+

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EU rodeo

chrome plover
south kayak
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31c

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here

glad coyote
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so glad i found a m+ premade

dense elbow
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Summer 🌞

glad coyote
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now i just gotta buy raid kills for lego

chrome plover
south kayak
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nah it's gonna get colder soon

chrome plover
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I know it's dry heat and it's more comfortable than 30 here but still

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fuck that I need my sub-10 degrees

rustic obsidian
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anyone goin for LFR tier tommorow? 😄

glad coyote
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of course

dense elbow
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30 = death, give me -30 instead

south kayak
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so that's a lot colder

brave cairn
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will we be able to convert to tier on 1st week?

glad coyote
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getting cold here in new jersey

south kayak
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yes

chrome plover
brave cairn
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and its 1 per week or something?

south kayak
chrome plover
glad coyote
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tell me about it

south kayak
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30 is literally nothing wdym

brave cairn
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hmm alright thanks

south kayak
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we get 45 here

chrome plover
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yeah ive been in high 40s and no thank you

dense elbow
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At 25 I struggle with the heat, 30 I hide, 40 I pray for winter to come and take me home

south kayak
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last time i was in a - weather was 5 years ago

brave cairn
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pussies cant handle a bit of heat

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how are you going to reach man's farthest frontiers if you complain about a slight chill?

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-50 is where its at

chrome plover
dense elbow
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-50 is great, actuality easier to keep in the warmth

chrome plover
south kayak
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I love when it's cold

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summer sucks

dense elbow
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Agreed

iron portal
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Autumn enjoyers?

chrome plover
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ofc

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gamers

dense elbow
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🎿 ski and ❄️ snow

south kayak
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i havent' seen snow in a few years

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:sadg

dense elbow
glad coyote
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hope we get some decent snow so i can take the kids out in it

brave cairn
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netherlands snow last year was literally only for 2 days where I live

south kayak
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anyway, im not going to miss first pack of vortex pinnacle critcake

dense elbow
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I will, I used to semi afk them

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Perfect time to get a snack

brave cairn
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sandbagging your team is yikes

south kayak
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it's not his choice

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the game sandbags him

dense elbow
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Ya could minmax it quite efficiently, just keep caster at the edge, so you can cleave into em

south kayak
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fuck that

dense elbow
glad coyote
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who else is excited for slam

south kayak
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no

dense elbow
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Arms

deep niche
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slam is same filler as rb so who cares

south kayak
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idk why but i don't like dual wielding 2h weapons

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feels weird

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arms feels real

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a big 2h weapon

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im sorry

dense elbow
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Arms is half the value

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Shoo

south kayak
frosty scroll
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unironically wanting to smf with a 2h leggo coming this tier

brave cairn
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Arms is half the MAN

subtle lagoon
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Dual wielding two 2h weapons is the personification of xeos

glad coyote
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they need to mark arms a 2nd aug spec

brave cairn
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I don't actually want smf, I just want to be able to tmog 1handers into 2handers

meager void
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yo about the renown drama, anyone know if its gonna affect RWF peeple?

glad coyote
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it already has

sinful spoke
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they already got set back

brave cairn
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they already cut it right?

glad coyote
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nagurra stream has the info

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its up currently

silver mantle
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Liquid did, Echo not that much

sinful spoke
brave cairn
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too bad the tmog for the leggo looks like dogass

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tired of this flaming pastel shit aesthetic we are getting

sinful spoke
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smf spec with these two

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:stonk

glad coyote
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just make tg and smf into the same spell and allow tmogs to both

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done

compact knot
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smf spec on that one boss in doti with that weapon on the right

sinful spoke
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which one boss u gotta be more specific bro

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iridikron ?

compact knot
meager void
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dude, someone lost 107 renown levels across his account. Thats wild.

sinful spoke
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LOL

frosty scroll
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L bozo shouldnt of been using exploits

iron portal
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Rekt

chrome plover
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hilarious actually

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nice 424 crafted items

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xdd

silver mantle
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Imagine grinding renown via exploits for a whole week

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And then bliz actually take action

chrome plover
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surprised pikachu

meager void
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karma is a bitch

deep niche
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107 renown levels kekw

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where you find that info?

meager void
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the ammount of work for 107 renown levels tho. Even with an exploit thats awful

chrome plover
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you can see on armory

meager void
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I mean, we all so crit and his one rune. But 107 levels, that's an unfathomable amount of work across one week

chrome plover
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and all of method without exploiting

fading chasm
dense elbow
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Crit did it without exploits?

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Respect

meager void
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nah man, that's not possible. He at least did the GCD token thing.

coarse nest
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People took the risk exploiting because most of the time blizzard doesn’t take action on accounts they just fix the exploit

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This time the exploiters lost

chrome plover
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bear in mind it is NOT mine and I have no idea how real it is

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but this is what I saw this morning

fading chasm
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A 1 day ban but getting to keep the 200% worthy ally seems worth the punishment imo. Tbh.

clever belfry
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but you can see who got bonked

chrome plover
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method good boys

coarse nest
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1 day ban is massive for RWF players

clever belfry
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#LORGOKNATTY

chrome plover
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actually natty

molten wing
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they should have waited for the 1 day ban to happen when the raid opens

frosty scroll
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typical na L

glad coyote
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it going to be splits for days

chrome plover
fading chasm
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First week is garbage time, almost all splits. 1 day at the beginning is nothing.

chrome plover
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I think this is a good punishment

deep niche
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but why abuse this shit

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i don't get it

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like no one will see it

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jesus

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ppl are so stupid or what

glad coyote
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you cant blame the player for this imo, if blizz did its job of testing this would never happen

coarse nest
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Because they are competing and if you can gain an advantage why wouldn’t you?

deep niche
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you can get renow 18 without bug abuse

coarse nest
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They should have just done the alt method and not risked banning

iron portal
deep niche
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so whats the point 😄

coarse nest
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I agree with that.

iron portal
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I like it

sinful spoke
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theres always bugs and exploits to games no matter how much testing there is

molten wing
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its part blizzard fault part the player seeing an obvious bug and then doing it 13432 times over and over

sinful spoke
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and the fact they were abusing said exploits is cause they found them and refused to report them

molten wing
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and then when you get caught you said "wasn't this intended" ?

glad coyote
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blizzard has months of time to test

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jsut like any company with code and shit

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gotta test it

sinful spoke
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XD

deep niche
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well i repeat

molten wing
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there is 0 gaming companies that release stuff nowadays without bugs , it is what it is

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from Elden Ring to WoW to League to Alan Wake 2 etc

deep niche
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yea you can't test ALL stuff

meager void
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I would invite some of you try and understand how software design works

dense elbow
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How so?

tardy lark
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Finding some of this shit is impossible before you release it to a massive amount of people attacking things in a million different ways

meager void
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the ideal of "0 bugs" is amusing, to say the least, for anyone involved in software

compact knot
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league still has 100s of bugs

dense elbow
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Well, it is an ideal

tardy lark
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End users are fucking stupid

dense elbow
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0 bugs sound ideal

molten wing
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and its obvious that they also fucked up , but if you walk on the street and you are in front of the bank and the workers are loading in cash for the bank , and they drop a bag full of cash , will you be considered guilty by taking the bag for yourself ? It is their fault they dropped it , but its your fault as well to not abuse the situatuon lmao

sinful spoke
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of course it sounds ideal

compact knot
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bugs in league get reported and are only looked at 10 years later

silent burrow
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That's my money

sinful spoke
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my money now

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YOINK

gaunt delta
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there will be bugs... of course but its more so learning from past experiences..."Hey guys remember that time we messed up or a code got messed up and allowed people to infinitely farm?...Lets triple check this rep grind to make sure that doesnt happen"

dense elbow
meager void
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would you rather them devote time to every little exploit try-hards will use or devote time to class design and encounter balance?

molten wing
compact knot
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both

compact knot
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^

meager void
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I would argue that this seed exploit is very intricate

chrome plover
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it is the players fault and they should be punished lmao

meager void
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i don't see the scenario where they would have caught it before hand

dense elbow
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Get the fee, go outside, wait for a bag to be dropped again. Infinite money

gaunt delta
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Its both parties fault. lol

molten wing
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its like back in legion where you could farm the WQ in suramar over and over , obviously its a bug , but you are obviously abusing it if you are doing the same WQ for 5 hours straight keks

clever path
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do you guys really thing blizzard would ban someone that would affect RWF, when the event is free advertising....cmon be real now

dense elbow
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Exploits are just that. Don't think anyone is arguing that exploiting isn't doing a bad peepostudy

sinful spoke
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?

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and they have

clever path
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where did they ban anyone?

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now

sage depot
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teehee just a little exploit

gaunt delta
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Its kinda common sense...on both ends. Blizz: Messed up coding or something was faulty on their end they didnt catch it, hell they didnt even know what to do with seeds in general but yet gave the go ahead to release the system anyway. Their choice and fault. Customer should know if something is off and being able to pick up the same chest is never intended, their choice to keep doing so their fault.

half cargo
half cargo
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Ion himself would personally intervene to overturn if a ban went through

clever path
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if it was me and you? BAN ofc

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RWF players wont happen

chrome plover
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?

half cargo
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^ unironically the most based take in all of this

clever path
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unless its something REAAAAAAAAAAAAL sketch

meager void
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"Us vs them"

sage depot
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two tiered justice system, life really does imitate art

chrome plover
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non-rwf players also got their shit rolled back

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and didnt get banned

clever path
sage depot
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ban them too

half cargo
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my random raid leader from a few tiers ago got a 2 week ban for buying 3k gold on TBC

compact knot
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ban everybody, full reset of the game

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fuck em

half cargo
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meanwhile, others are on record buying millions and people just look the other way

clever path
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if blizzard wants to do something do a 2/3 day ban on all of the involved accounts that would teach then not to fuck around

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now a rollback is meaningless

glad coyote
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remember when they rolled a bunch of bans out at the start of the SL season

sage depot
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make them redo shadowlands again

chilly fractal
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Remember Dragon Soul?

glad coyote
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love DS

radiant kettle
dense elbow
gaunt delta
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honestly make them replay vanilla with old leveling system...that'll show them

clever path
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dragon soul, theres no RWF event

noble heath
clever path
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RWF started in what? legion?

chilly fractal
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BFA

compact knot
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what the flip

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not normal

glad coyote
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RWF started in vanilla

meager void
gaunt delta
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Burning anything is always a good take. Wake up and choose violence EVERYDAY

compact knot
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no?

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rwf did not start in vanilla

dense elbow
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I got better.

meager void
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I mean, I might preach this but I did kick the squirrel in bg3 so...

dense elbow
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critcake wtf

gaunt delta
clever path
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just make up your mind already...

dense elbow
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Fair point, but... clear exploit is an exploit

clever path
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but if theres going to be a punishment, atleast make it meaningfull a rollback is not meaningfull

gaunt delta
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roll them back to like 14 renown take away augment rune

restive peak
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A rollback is quite meaningful to the top guilds, it was 1. A huge waste of time and 2. Took away their free upgraded item

glad coyote
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blizz knows they cant ban any of the rfw people, than ban us regular folks

dense elbow
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Roll everyone back to 0 xan

glad coyote
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they already made that mistake in shadowlands with a mass bans from past stuff

restive peak
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It isn’t a huge deal to you, it is to then; banning RWF players would kill their esports side and free marketing

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And if they don’t ban them, they can’t ban us peasants lol

glad coyote
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exactly

dense elbow
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Og no, the market sadge

gaunt delta
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the problem is they are letting them keep the beniftis but just lowering rep...like cool wasnt gonna refarm anyway

restive peak
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They didn’t keep the benefits

gaunt delta
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ah see i heard they did

restive peak
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They removed the items and rolled back their renown

chrome plover
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you can see on their armory

clever path
chrome plover
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424 spark weapons equiped

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etc etc

gaunt delta
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well then whats the issue lol

restive peak
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It is not 0, it is relevant at that level, you clearly do not play at a HOF level, but trust me they’re pissed and frustrated

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And it will increase their split needs considerably

dense elbow
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Should not have exploited?

chrome plover
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it will also dissuade them from doing shit like this again, because blizzard has made it clear that they will do something

clever path
chrome plover
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and maybe next time it'll be something worse

clever path
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i think not

chrome plover
restive peak
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I’m not saying they shouldn’t have or should have, the take away was a good call, but it matters

gaunt delta
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eh doesnt directly effect me so i say "Do you boo boo"

restive peak
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Because you can’t M+ an embellished piece

clever path
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but you need that piece to craft

chrome plover
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saves 4 aspects upgrades so it is gonna be a decent deal

gaunt delta
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

restive peak
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If you don’t play at a competitive level, that’s cool and all and good for ya, but don’t pretend to understand the difference in your week 10 heroic clears vs week 1 while under geared and how close the kills can become

clever path
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I mean yeah its something, but a BAN would make more sense

restive peak
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1 big free embellished item across 20 players is a big jump, and the loss of it is a big loss

clever path
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if they wanna punnish

restive peak
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A ban would kill the race

sinful spoke
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i mean do we know if they even lost the crafting item

chrome plover
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yes

glad coyote
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would it though?

restive peak
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Which would negate something the community massively rallies behind

sinful spoke
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oop

restive peak
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Yes we do

sinful spoke
gaunt delta
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they wont ban what brings them money/attention.

glad coyote
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other than the top 4-5 guilds who else can get it?

restive peak
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Banning liquid and echo would effectively kill the race, and cost millions in endorsements etc

gaunt delta
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sure they are mad but they are gonna still do what they need to and blizz knows that lol

restive peak
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It would likely bankrupt those teams WoW divisions tbh

clever path
gaunt delta
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it would thats why they wont get banned

dense elbow
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Well, as far as I know, 1 day ban would only delay NA to EU release. So everyone starts at the same time peepostudy

vagrant imp
restive peak
clever path
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they wont due it cause it hurts wow advertising not their organizations

restive peak
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They say that but money is involved so they’re lying to you lol

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The race is MASSIVE FREE MARKETING for blizzard

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And this is a business

sinful spoke
clever path
brave cairn
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believing what corpo says like its gospel

gaunt delta
restive peak
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Blizzard spends 0$ and for weeks, their game has millions of free eyes

meager void
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no such thing as "free marketing

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tho

restive peak
vagrant imp
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The race means nothing in money to them, dont act like it dose.
As recently stated, The first store horse made more than SC2.

meager void
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this RFW stuff has costs involved for sure. Only the monitoring team would be an extra.

restive peak
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And my accomplishments aren’t the point, you called me out and I was merely giving you the facts, you don’t understand this level

clever path
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cant be

meager void
wild mural
sinful spoke
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bro doesnt know how math works

restive peak
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This rollback will affect the race, and is a big punishment

wild mural
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Aug out

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This is what we can all agree on

gaunt delta
sinful spoke
glad coyote
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yeah no aug for a month

meager void
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yes the "horse made more money" but the horse was within a multi milliion dollar game

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without the game, the horse is nothing

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people fail to understand this connection and just take the idiot take on the accounting of a horse

wild mural
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The fuck is going on in here anyway

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What we bitching about

chrome plover
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NA ranks yeeeeeehaw

glad coyote
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servers coming up early?

chrome plover
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(jk i know lincc is a gamer)

wild mural
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NA rankings 🤠

sinful spoke
restive peak
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Hahaha love you chawie

wild mural
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Wat

gaunt delta
restive peak
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I CANT HELP THAT I WAS BORN IN CANADIALAND BROS

steep fable
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is there a rotation guide somewhere that tells potatoes like me in what order I should push my keys? (subject change)

wild mural
restive peak
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If someone wants to buy me a villa in Spain I’ll come to EU 😛

dense elbow
radiant kettle
vagrant imp
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D. Blizz Dont give a shit about RWF and will ban as they please

gaunt delta
restive peak
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They definitely care about the race

chrome plover
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F. fury warrior

vagrant imp
chilly fractal
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S. fury with legendary

restive peak
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Alright back to focusing on the hype cuz can’t reason with dumb

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WE HYPED BOIS

half cargo
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Saying they don’t care is one hell of a take

meager void
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its naive

half cargo
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Like, have you even glanced in the direction of the scene?

dense elbow
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Linc called you dumb and left chat

meager void
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its thinking you "know more"

dense elbow
gaunt delta
restive peak
left perch
clever path
dense elbow
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I couldn't hear anything but REEEEE

restive peak
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We gonna get 5 warriors together to do 11s or what

gaunt delta
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OOOO I CALL HEALS

half cargo
clever path
half cargo
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F

dense elbow
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GG shouts a lot

gaunt delta
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GG GO NEXT

left perch
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imagine not taking your meds

gaunt delta
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ok relax thats was offensive

left perch
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WAS IT

gaunt delta
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nah it was cool ....you can sit at the cool kids table

left perch
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they have specifically asked me not to, several times

gaunt delta
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do it anyway

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im sorry guys im just bored eating my rice & chicken getting ready for a good back session befor eservers go live

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im not me when im hungry

chrome plover
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did you blend the chicken

gaunt delta
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not today

chrome plover
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seasoning?

gaunt delta
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cajun

chrome plover
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you're meant to say 'no'

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you failed

gaunt delta
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lol

tacit crag
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That took so long for you to type I want to know what it said before.

gaunt delta
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it said i took a few bites when i started lol

deep niche
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i would say 10 cal from seasoning is nothing

clever path
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It's like the one cool kid who lets the nerds/losers shine, "you weren't supposed to do that!"

chrome plover
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unseasoned blended chicken and rice

gaunt delta
restive peak
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Bro I grilled up 12 chicken breasties last night we ready

sharp silo
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do we need to make it timed for s3 M+ key?

gaunt delta
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i get 100g of carbs today......

chrome plover
deep niche
sharp silo
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ty

clever path
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yeah, i kinda gave up and just did a timed 23 and plan to quickly +3 the 12 and hopefully the 15

left perch
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my Aug sitting rich on a timed 15

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So that’s a 4 I think nice

clever path
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Does anyone have the gear sheet with all the key lvls?

rigid stirrup
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I'm sitting at a 13 :/

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I love that they give the anti warrior affix on the week we're supposed to try to time a high key

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timed 24 to end it off in isn't that bad doe

proud vessel
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How much do you guys sim ST?

sinful spoke
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400k

restive peak
clever path
proud vessel
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Rogue friend of mine, 448 is simming 151k and he just came back lol

dapper goblet
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👨‍🦼

clever path
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crafted gear is now maxed at 486, right?

rigid stirrup
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I think so

clever path
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cool

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means i need to get an 18 done for mythic track

chrome plover
proud vessel
lilac basin
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y

clever path
crude cove
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Warrior is like going to 7/11 at 3 am .

proud vessel
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What do you mean with Mythic track? and dont you mean 20 so you get 483?

rigid stirrup
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like the upgrade is on the mythic ilvl range

winter shoal
rigid stirrup
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you do a 18 you get 480 in vauly which can go up to 489

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I hope that explained it

fading sky
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ye ideally 20's if u want to gear fast as possible

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as u will save an upgrade

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but 18s will do for 99% of us for sure

proud vessel
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Wait so you can get max ilvl gear from doing m+ now? So raid is no longer ahead by a few ilvl?

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with upgrades ofc

fading sky
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well only a few rare items are higher ilvl

chrome sierra
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i'm probably reading this wrong in the guide, but can someone clarify
are we breaking tier if we can only make 2-set or do we only break when we can make 4-set

winter shoal
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Aside from raid-specific drops yeah

fading sky
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but in gen Raid just have Stronger trinkets instead of Ilvl 😄

proud vessel
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nice

winter shoal
chrome sierra
winter shoal
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Oh wait thought I was in arms

chrome sierra
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😛

winter shoal
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Fury will probably go 4pc->2pc2pc

chrome sierra
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ok cool

proud vessel
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still confused about what you mean with track xD you mean the aspect?

winter shoal
proud vessel
#

gotcha

lone rose
proud vessel
#

sorry

fading sky
#

so mythic gear starts on mythic track can only be obtained trhough vault

winter shoal
#

@proud vessel

fading sky
#

and lvl 20 gear drop from dungeon is heroic track or ?

#

so we get heroic raiding gear from 20s

#

ok

clever belfry
lone rose
#

whats the move tho in keys? no tier is prob still fury

clever belfry
#

19/20 drop higher base tho so u save crests

winter shoal
fading sky
#

ye

winter shoal
lone rose
proud vessel
clever belfry
#

quicky delete xd

hard widget
winter shoal
#

Just woke up xdd

clever belfry
#

i mean 17 vault is hero track that is correct

#

18+ is myth track

mossy fox
clever belfry
winter shoal
#

What's the emote with the weebs and the flamethrower

lone rose
#

big strong warriors talkin bout anime waifus gengin impact shiet

clever belfry
#

suprisingly

#

im not a weeb

winter shoal
#

(X) Doubt

clever belfry
#

im just deranged

olive wraith
chrome plover
mossy fox
#

i just like the emote

compact knot
#

its pretty good

#

m+ portal hub that teleports you to the dungeons

lavish beacon
compact knot
#

thank god

proud vessel
#

When do you guys think we'll get a clear view on what is gonna be better in m+ arms or fury? And how do you guys prio gear if you want to swap to the 'better' spec?

fading sky
#

its arms

#

for sure

#

fury got no legs atm

compact knot
#

not for sure

modest condor
#

gear matters way less than you think

hard widget
compact knot
#

gear switching between arms and fury is fine for m+

modest condor
#

you can legit just gear for raid and use that gear in m+ with either spec and barely notice it

hard widget
#

I've been playing arms with fury gear for so long this tier x)

compact knot
#

thats fine

#

your only gimping yourself slightly and thats mostly only in raid

stuck bison
#

Arms with fury gear in raid kinda a bit ass tho. Not too much but still

modest condor
#

not really

proud vessel
modest condor
#

that's the thing

compact knot
#

no haste on arms feels cringe, u still hit hella hard tho

modest condor
#

stat prior doesnt have to be the same

#

it matter so little

proud vessel
#

Ahh thats nice

hard widget
modest condor
#

like, you can drop 3k crit from the arms profile and put it into mastery instead and you'll lose 1.5% dps

compact knot
#

only 6500 mastery rn

proud vessel
#

Nice, ill just start prio fury and will swap if arms gains ahead

#

Thank you

modest condor
#

and when you get further into the season and get more loot you can start minmaxing the secondaries for each spec

compact knot
#

STR priority gigachad

shell trellis
#

what are affixes for st week?

#

nvm found that

lone rose
mighty rover
#

Hey, could I get some feedback on this talent build for Single Target fury DPS aimed at raid bosses not at trash clearing or mythic+ ? BgEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7HAAAAAAAAAAQggSAEBpIiIRBSICESIJEJSSQikkkEoEikEJBAAABEE
Thanks in advance for any comments - It's my first time playing Fury, I've been playing Arms but got nice 2hander drops so went fury for amirdrassil. I use beacon and Shalamayne for burst dps in windows where cds are popped to mitigate for downtime from moving due to boss mechanics.

proud vessel
fading sky
#

Tier and gear

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Furys new tier is not good in m+

mighty rover
#

It would make sense Arms to be ahead because Fury was ahead S2 wouldn't it?

fading sky
#

Its just coz of builds

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If furys tier buffed same spec as last season fury would stilø be bettrr

compact knot
mighty rover
compact knot
#

so use the season 2 talent trees

modest condor
compact knot
lone rose
#

still crafted gear when balancing pve and pvp is aids

mighty rover
modest condor
#

luckily i dont care about pvp bedge

meager void
#

Sanguine on week 1, that's eeeevil.

lone rose
mighty rover
# compact knot 2nd one i think it is

Ok, thanks 🙂 I will read it through again, I've read it once but skimmed/glanced at it. Mainly didn't wanna take it due to the AOE talents in the ST build side, but I guess it has the point that fury doesn't lose DPS to AOE talenting.

modest condor
#

it was my first time ever doing m+

#

it was not a pleasant experience keks

eternal sundial
meager void
#

trust

#

and Ive never seen these dungeons, I skipped all these content. They tell me the waycrest manor is gonna be "fun"

sinful spoke
#

i dont see that am i looking at a diff guide

modest condor
#

it's still cramped and it has 5 bosses, so it has some downsides

#

but generally people like dungeons where you can do big pulls

mighty rover
iron portal
#

Waycrest first weeks with tyranical/grievious

#

Trio boss was pain

modest condor
#

they had tyran grievous in bfa?

iron portal
#

Yea

mighty rover
modest condor
#

oof

iron portal
#

Only first season iirc

#

Or im spewing bs but im sure i cried on that boss with grievious

compact knot
#

but they also probably dont care for optimization

compact knot
#

since its a normal raiding guild

mighty rover
eternal sundial
#

And at some point you graduate into mythic where everyone has that mindset

#

Or so im told cuz it doesnt feel like that with some of our raiders

iron portal
#

But that dungeon was very hard tuned in regards to bosses early

modest condor
#

yeah triad was really hard in early seasons

iron portal
#

Life was hard first season for warriors too

#

Cause of infected

modest condor
#

yeah, infested

iron portal
#

Infested* yea

#

Everybody wanted frost mages and boomies

fading sky
#

Gonna be same next season🤣

winter shoal
#

I'm gonna be down bad pugging this week, nobody wants warriors on incorp week

modest condor
#

luckily i can just play with my guild

#

but man im not excited about sanguine

winter shoal
#

Didn't sanguine get nerfed

modest condor
#

yes but it still sucks

iron portal
#

It used to be much worse

#

And it is still shite

#

Bravo

modest condor
#

60 second sanguine critcake

iron portal
#

Skittish also glad it went away

covert coyote
#

Skittish was trash.

#

And the one with extra trash on top

iron portal
#

Tbh they kinda implied next expac will be less focused on affixes

#

And more on individual dungeons

silver mantle
#

Seems like everyone has different affix they hate

iron portal
#

So remains to be seen

iron portal
eternal sundial
#

Ghost affix bad

mighty rover
restive peak
#

Wait is it sanguine first week? Lol

modest condor
#

potentially

#

not confirmed yet

covert coyote
#

can’t wait to get back into WCM on sang week

lavish grove
#

Sanguine wcm gladge

eternal sundial
#

But hey there's guilds for all raid times

#

Bro i was gonna play frostmage week 1 wtf

mighty rover
#

Yeah, I got a 4yo and a 6yo, that’s where my time is going first. Second to raiding, but still it’s so fun.

proud vessel
#

what do you consider high haste?

modest condor
#

apparently not

restive peak
#

God I hope not man, these dungeons are gonna be hellish for sangy first week lol

modest condor
#

more than 30%

mighty rover
proud vessel
#

ohh you scared me

#

thought i was playing wrong all along

modest condor
#

my message literally said it's only 1k behind

proud vessel
#

i know

mighty rover
#

DR for secondary stats is around 30 rite?

proud vessel
#

im easily startled

modest condor
#

you dont have t31 yet

#

how can you play bad

proud vessel
#

last season

modest condor
#

we're talking about t31

upbeat blade
#

you underestimate us

proud vessel
#

ahh you were talking about PTR then

modest condor
#

because of other buffs or base stats that's not actually at 30%

#

like im pretty sure technically haste DR doesnt kick in until like 36% or something

sullen wagon
#

A bit below that

#

But it's about right

winter shoal
#

Going into DR isn't necessarily a bad thing though

#

A stat in DR can still be more valuable than another stat not in DR

sullen wagon
#

Yes, this is why you trust the robot

winter shoal
#

Always trust the robot YEP

mighty rover
#

Which robot is todays trustworthy robot? In my time it used to be askmrrobot

winter shoal
#

raidbots

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usually the top gear sim

mighty rover
#

Ah, so many bots - this is the simcraft made readable with a pretty UI bot right?

winter shoal
#

I guess so yeah

mighty rover
#

It is neat, used it once or twice - didn’t yet manage to use it properly I think. The gear options it scanned from my bags and offered for me to choose was a bit overwhelming, so I just gave up and went with biggest ilevel + str + haste. Should be able to do average dps with that at least I think, then optimizing my rotation talents and consumables should bring me a bit above the average which is enough for normal I think.

modest condor
#

just going with ilvl is always a good start

left perch
#

there is such a thing as over simming yea, so if you’re hoarding gear because you’re worried about upgrades you’re probably over thinking it

mighty rover
#

Yeah I thought if im sitting between 450 and 440 gear, it’s already good enough for Amir normal so now im optimizing my talents and rotation. Need to read up on the fights today too, so I can maximize my dps uptime tomorrow, positioning & mechanics wise. It might even matter more than the best rotation or talents 😅 but probably need optimal both.

glad coyote
#

Servers up?

mighty rover
#

I have to say trasitioning from arms to fury I like the extra survivability.

olive wraith
#

Think they’re doing maintenance until 11pst

#

Just wait for t31. Self heal is gonna be even better

hasty path
#

Entirely possible they’re up sooner

olive wraith
#

Doubt it’ll be this early

#

Like last week went late 3? Hours

gilded pawn
#

The bulk of the maintainence is done last week

#

Not saying there is no work this week

#

But it’s less

warm lark
#

Still down

feral quartz
#

Didn’t last patch actually come up early

#

Last season*

chilly fractal
#

Typically season starts servers do come up early IIRC

#

But they are extended either way so “early” is anytime between now and then

chrome plover
modest needle
#

so for the new tier set do we just spam BT / Rampage with the occasional slam now ?

dense elbow
#

Think Ramp BB, x BT, ramp - where X is your best prio button in that spot, and ya basically there.

Check the wowguide for more detail breakdown, it is in da pins

restive peak
#

Lunch acquired, we on our way to be in the waiting room with all you other beauts LETS FUCKIN GAME

sullen dove
#

sanguine first week

#

you mean fob arms gaming

gusty compass
#

Sizzling is the best food buff i've used Fortune Cookie

sullen dove
#

did i read the change correctly tho in that pools no longer "overlap" instead they "connect" which i first read mostly applied to taking multiple hits of damage from multiple pools, but surely it doesnt overlap the healing aspect of it too right, as in its baseline 5% hps and cant go higher?

dense elbow
#

Yep, it no longer stacks the pools

#

still bad standing in it tho

gusty compass
sullen dove
dense elbow
#

just not 0 to 100 in o.1sec

chrome plover
#

but that was fun

#

dipping my toe in 2803 sanguine pools and giving my healer a jumpscare

dense elbow
#

If you played arms, you could cut sang value in half, and say that is to be added to your DPS

chrome plover
#

keeps them on their toes

fluid cedar
#

Is gushing a rolling dot? Do they stack or does it just refresh

fluid cedar
#

That would be so juiced if it stacked up

olive wraith
#

They’d have to need the healing if that was the case

#

Probably the dmg too

gusty compass
#

Is it worth to spend the Drake crests now? You will get it in m+ tomorrow?

olive wraith
#

I’d probably rather save them for champ track stuff

dense elbow
#

peepoBlush I would just spend them, I give bad advice 3/10 times tho

glad sparrow
#

I'd save drakes for normal tier pieces if you're planning on doing the raid

gusty compass
#

Yeah we are doing the raid tomorrow

olive wraith
#

Assuming you do normal raid and 10+ keys you’ll be spending drakes on gear you get from there

gusty compass
#

We are doing normal and heroic tomorrow.

glad sparrow
#

You can also skip drakes

#

I will be sitting on 1/8 or 2/8 champ gear and then just flat replacing with 4/8 champ or higher

olive wraith
#

You could if you start heroic raid and 16 keys

glad sparrow
#

So I'd only be using drakes on normal tier set

olive wraith
#

I have to double check which key actually drops 463 to make drake useless

glad sparrow
#

Assuming that you're around 441-445+ IL currently

olive wraith
#

But normal raid youll still need crests

glad sparrow
#

If this is a fresh alt or coming back toon then you probably need drakes and go through pain

#

463 drops at 15's

#

9-10 would drop 454 1/8 champ gear and 11's would drop 2/8 457

olive wraith
#

So ya you still need drake

lavish sage
#

are servers up

wispy thistle
#

If they were people would be complaining about their last vault of the season

hidden sinew
#

fingers crossed they dont extend the time too 6pm like they have in the past

#

excited we get to use annhilator again tho once we get t31 set

dense elbow
#

I am happy to see you are excited!

clever path
hidden sinew
#

early in dragon flight first couple of weeks it was the best

dense elbow
#

10.0 launch

lean nacelle
#

anni beta build was fun

glad sparrow
#

Wait, so the new build uses annhilator?

glad coyote
#

Servers up

dense elbow
#

YepYep

glad coyote
#

?

dense elbow
#

Build should be in the pins

mighty rover
hidden sinew
#

im hoping the legendary axe will be viable for us i was looking at the early builds and i didnt see achrim put it in yet so idk

dense elbow
#

... it will be viable

#

100%

olive wraith
#

Why wouldn’t it be viable

dense elbow
#

from ilvl alone

olive wraith
#

It’s got the highest ilvl

dense elbow
#

Well - maybe, it only heals, and got no seccondary stats

#

could happen

#

then it aint viable

#

:3

hidden sinew
#

fair enough ive been looking for a datmined version of it cant seem to find it.

olive wraith
#

The effect might not help us as much as the other classes but we’ll still use it

clever path
valid drum
#

Should we still go for haste mastery on our crafted gear?

olive wraith
#

Wait for rwf to finish

hasty tree
#

Where can i get that 2hand weapon which i can upgrade to 364? is it grindable?

dense elbow
#

Dont worry, wowhead will go crazy and this channel will be filled with:
Wowheadscreenshot.png
DID YOU GUYS SEE THIS?!

olive wraith
slim coral
#

I'm so ready to pump

olive wraith
#

Or just quest in emerald dream

hidden sinew
#

yeah im going straight into mythics soon as the servers pop up lmao

#

see how bad i rolled lmao

dense elbow
#

You rolled a winner

valid drum
# olive wraith Sim it

Yeah, but they were the stats we were gunning for according to sim in 10.1 , they might change with higher gear.

olive wraith
#

Always sim for your best stats

#

It’s always changing

dense elbow
#

My best stats atm is Versa/crit

hidden sinew
#

damnn son

dense elbow
#

sim yourself, it is important

olive wraith
#

I’m down for vers

hidden sinew
#

yeah sadly its not as simple as stacking one stat anymore

#

it is to a point but.. theres breakpoints stuff now

olive wraith
#

Gotta get 100% arp

hasty tree
solid vortex
#

gonna slam some keys today (like just about everybody else that is playing wow today) is icy-veins website still good for rotation cause i have been going there since forever

glad sparrow
#

If you don't want to do the sim let someone else do it for you

hidden sinew
#

honestly i didnt like simming at first but once i learned how to properly use it its a godsend

glad sparrow
#

After a week or so just copy anyone in top 10 progression for m+ or raid

olive wraith
#

But that wouldn’t be your best stats

dense elbow
#

Copy in a world where you could copy perfectly, is prob what they meant

hidden sinew
#

i mean you could be like me 14 years ago playing a paladin wearing cloth gear, thinking whatever gives me the highest health is the best lmao

glad sparrow
#

You copy the weights which in most cases is the same gear piece

hidden sinew
#

i was the king of noobs

glad sparrow
#

But basically if the rank 1 warrior is going to have 4k vers and is probably using sims

#

I will also get 4k vers

olive wraith
solid vortex
#

is reckless abandon a must nowadays in M+ fury rotation

olive wraith
#

Only after t31

mossy fox
#

i pray it's not sanguine

#

anything but sanguine man

glad sparrow
#

Thought wowhead confirmed sanguine already

hidden sinew
#

ooh

#

oof*

blissful kestrel
#

Afflicted and incorp inc no warrior week

olive wraith
#

“Most likely” I think

mossy fox
#

yeah it says likely

olive wraith
#

But who knows

mossy fox
#

so there's a chance......

olive wraith
glad sparrow
#

Ah I didn't click in just read the title mb

hidden sinew
#

grab ur preists and dragon healers lmao

pearl lagoon
solid vortex
#

anybody got a character i can look up in armory, i want to see some talent points for M+ build

mossy fox
#

yeah but i wanna zug zug tank

#

not backpedal all day

valid drum
#

1st week protcake confirmed?

olive wraith
#

Wowhead guide has talents for t31

blissful kestrel
#

Prot cake?

mossy fox
#

prolly 50/50 tank/dps

#

gotta play whatever i gotta play to keep spamming keys

slim coral
dense elbow
#

Crit is forced to tank? Oh no - that means... I gotta tank
critcake

#

Or, I just bother tanks on my list and ratge

#

I think I will just do that

valid drum
#

Arms is just a single zug, and do need zugzug

dapper jacinth
#

Protcake AINTNOWAY @mossy fox anda

solid vortex
#

ok this annihilator build, im not a fan of it, i use bt rb a lot, am i doing a lot less dps going away from the annihilator build or should i just do more research about this annihilator build cause i'm seeing storm of swords and slam in the mix and i am not a fan of it

winter shoal
noble heath
#

slam

#

mt

winter shoal
solid vortex
#

oh so annihilator after tier, so 2 set or 4 set

valid drum
#

2

solid vortex
#

ok

winter shoal
#

Sims say 2pc but I'm gonna be playing arms til 4p

valid drum
#

I'll enjoy my t30 build till I get 4p

#

Avatar > reck> phial > orc racial > ravager at player macro goes bonk

dense elbow
#

you not throwing ravager on cursor? Ya real zug zug, I like it

covert coyote
#

Literally went the whole season without seeing a phial

valid drum
#

Why lot word when feel word for trick?

valid drum
#

My ravager needs to be hitting the enemies, I need to be hitting the enemies

#

I can't see any flaws there

#

My prot ravager is on cursor tho

clever path
#

when i first did sims i did entire gear builds with different stats in gear compare with, took 30 minutes just to set them all up, so glad I now know about Top gear and droptimizer

sinful spoke
#

why is wowhead spreading misinformation

silent burrow
#

arms is zooted rn

sinful spoke
summer quail
fast mural
#

wowhead trying to get arms nerfed

winter shoal
#

Arms t31 is nerfing itself

sinful spoke
sinful spoke
summer quail
gusty compass
#

@mossy fox you stream today ?

mossy fox
summer quail
#

coz 10.2 aberrus ranking is not "misinformation" it's just not relevant information, if there's some inside joke or something then you right i do not understand

sinful spoke
#

bro is waffling

ember apex
#

hopefully method finishes closer to liquid/echo (ideally wins but that's a stretch)

left perch
#

Everyone knows aug is not correct on that chart

#

just minus 30% from every class and give to aug

fast mural
#

its still fucked ?

gray mesa
#

I’m considering warrior as my primary alt for this patch. Arms or fury, opinions?

fast mural
#

fury once you have new tier

ember apex
#

arms so u can learn the class, fury once ur ready for actual warrior gameplay imo

fast mural
#

here is a guide for fury rotation

glass kelp
#

Does anyone know how the hell do I remove this debuff ? 😔

ember apex
#

heal it off

#

victory rush

#

163,724 isnt that much. it's prob just 1 victory rush

glass kelp
#

ahh done, thanks ❤️

ember apex
#

np

restive peak
#

LONGEST WAIT EVER MAAAANNNN

dark flower
sinful spoke
opal summit
#

Does anyone know what the Legendary does yet????

ornate gust
restive peak
#

We're all gonna be playing both brotherrrrrrrrrrrrrr

#

IT'S BOTH TIME

opal summit
#

Fury will be BIS because u can use 2 leggos right?????

dark flower
#

this guy

restive peak
#

Time to separate the bois from the men

opal summit
#

Or am I being dumb

modest condor
#

you're being dumb

ornate gust
sudden tusk
opal summit
#

how do you know

sudden tusk
#

need to see what fyrakk actually is to pick

ornate gust
ornate gust
sudden tusk
#

we dont have footage to actually know

#

its speculatory at best

summer quail
cold forge
opal summit
dark flower
#

because they were two different items

summer quail
#

not the same warglaive

dark flower
#

one is a mainhand the other is an offhand

#

same w/ rogue daggers

opal summit
#

guess im rerolling then \o/

#

fun detected

summer quail
dark flower
#

I can't dual wield legendaries? Ughhhh class is bricked!

opal summit
#

well its kinda dumb we're allowed to use two 2h and blizz just ruin it

cold forge
#

we have 2 hands we deserve 2 leggos duuuh

wind furnace
#

??????

#

Arms is WAY up there?

blissful kestrel
#

Bring back gavel copium

#

Arms fuck good

dark flower
#

sims are bricked don't read too much into it

sinful hawk
dark flower
#

^

#

this is based off current gear not t31

wind furnace
#

Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up!

summer quail
dark flower
#

yup

wind furnace
#

Got it, thanks guys i was like wait what

blissful kestrel
#

Is na up yet

dark flower
#

it will basically be irrelevant by the end of the week for the better half of players

wary talon
#

Damn this spec has gotten too OP, we need nerfs desperately. Feel bad for all the boomkins etc out there

dark flower
#

🙏 good luck fellow Illidan brothers 🙏

wind furnace
#

Do we know anything about the leggo yet? sorry if been discussed i'm late to the party today

dark flower
#

echo and liquid on our server

#

gonna be flooded

blissful kestrel
#

Me on my way to get legendary

hidden sinew
#

i feel like theo von would be a fury warrior if he played wow

dark flower
sinful hawk
#

Does Fury run the T30 MT raid build from wowhead for Gnarlroot?

winter shoal
#

Yuh

merry night
#

@mossy fox what gear we gettin

mossy fox
#

yes

rotund steppe
#

lmao

sinful hawk
blissful kestrel
#

My favourite kinda weed is rampage - Theo von fury warr

merry night
#

are we doomed chat

dark flower
#

prolly runs it for a few of these bosses

#

considering the amount of multi-target fights

slim coral
winter shoal
hidden sinew
#

this 50 mins needs to hury tf up

#

i scheduled my self off two days for this im with trunks

winter shoal
clever path
hidden sinew
#

yeah if they extend times

rotund steppe
#

he means 6 hours

merry night
#

the gear guides fucked boys we're doomed

hidden sinew
#

sometimes ifeel like they do it just to build anticipatiion