fury

[winter shoal]

poggers

[south kayak]

xan is it you

[young swan]

hi

[south kayak]

hello

you playing?

[serene vessel]

not in RWF no

[young swan]

yessir

[south kayak]

war?

[young swan]

yessir

prob not streaming

[winter shoal]

Xan are you in Vision?

[young swan]

no

[slim coral]

it allows players that are pushing the content to push further even if it's 1 percent. The people that the augment rune is put in for will get value out of it

[south kayak]

you arms?

[young swan]

@hallow sphinx is and he'll prob stream prog

[slim coral]

majority of players don't do mythic so ofc if you count the entire player base it won't matter

[serene vessel]

xan is the 22nd man for team liquid

he watches Max and tells max what to tell liquid

[south kayak]

[slim coral]

why do you say no but Gajeel says yse

[pearl cradle]

@young swan they are using 2 shadowflame instead of 1 companionship and shadowflame should i the same i dont have any crated right now i just came back

[slim coral]

I can't tell who is serious

[sudden tusk]

i thought your pfp was just a black citcle forever xan

[young swan]

no one has crafted anything yet

[summer quail]

Xan arms otp

[young swan]

idk cause hes a troll

[gilded pawn]

its not huge

[pearl cradle]

@young swan ok ok ill wait thanks thanks

[gilded pawn]

you just pay for it

[wispy thistle]

@slim coral its not 1% though its .5 percent its literally nothing. you can have a sim variation thats off by that much

[gilded pawn]

you can just buy like 1000 augment runes

[sudden tusk]

when talking to gajeel you just spam him with the kiss emote

[slim coral]

oh yes let me spend 1 mill

[sudden tusk]

as such

[slim coral]

instead of 100k

[gilded pawn]

RWF has 1 mil

[sudden tusk]

@hallow sphinx 💋

[serene vessel]

ya know when u think about it, I watch Max during the RWF, so it's like I'm also there getting RWF

[gilded pawn]

rafkar literally told me they dont give a shit how much you spend

[slim coral]

I'm not talking about RWF

[serene vessel]

I'd like to congratulate myself on being RWF kill for Sarkareth

[slim coral]

Huge gz

[gilded pawn]

you literally did

[serene vessel]

ty ty

[slim coral]

oh wait you really are't on the wowlogs page anymore

[young swan]

@slim coral

def not in vision

[gilded pawn]

wtf xantaga is in nurfed

i have so many friends in nurfed

[south kayak]

I'd like to congratulate myself for not watching RWF kill for Sarkareth

[slim coral]

Oh you're raiidng with mike

nice

[covert void]

lol, there's been hardly anything to do the last week, really wasn't bad to get to rep 16 or so, so get 18 in reset.

don't get why some are trying to bring down people for doing it 😂

[south kayak]

is it still 16

[covert void]

I'm like 16? after doing the alt and all content (no grinding seeds)

[final birch]

Because it’s boring content and the only reason you’re doing it is because there is literally nothing else to do

But you do you

[serene vessel]

i dont think people are bringing anyone down for it

[final birch]

My whole guild been farming this shit for the past week

Ive yet to hit 10

[covert void]

course there are, read above. people acting like it's a proper sweat.

literally took a few days if that. been nothing else to do

[serene vessel]

i always forget that most wow gamers only play wow

[covert void]

and it's basically just doing the content there is in the game atm anyways. quests etc. new zones.

zone*

[south kayak]

I am

[final birch]

I’m not a big fan of questing, that’s why I don’t bother with new content or even level my characters

I just spam m+ and sometimes raid

Quests are fine for like… an hour or two

[dense elbow]

I done the main quest, the side quests and a few dailies. Prob 20-30 seeds. I am level 6. System do seem a tad slow to me, but I am not fuzzed about it.

That people went to 20 without exploits is mindboggling to myself

That gotta be untold hours of seed farming, 5 each

[final birch]

I mean while I’ve been logging every day and just spamming same old s2 my guildies sit in the new zone and do this stuff

I tried doing side quests

[serene vessel]

meh let people do what they enjoy, the only thing I'll hate on is the fact that once again blizzard created a scenario where degenerate shit can happen

[final birch]

There just isnt enough content to make it interesting

To sit for 10 hours for the last 6 days

[covert void]

to be clear I didn't farm to 20 or 18 this week. I would never have seed farmed personally. but you can get to 15/16 pretty easily without it been a sweat just doing the new 'content' in a certain way, with an alt first etc.

[south kayak]

joking btw

[serene vessel]

i figured

[dense elbow]

I am 6, I done all the main stuff. That is why I am lightly shook that people call 16 ez

[final birch]

Yeah

[covert void]

but.. it is? you just have to follow the way to do it lol

[final birch]

Its not about the difficulty

Its about how much time you have to put in

You putting in 20-30 hours isn’t „ez”

[south kayak]

you are pretty young to be playing this game

[covert void]

I mean people can play the game how they want my issue was people making out like going for renown was a sweaty bad thing to do

when there's not much else to do

[dense elbow]

Oh you

[serene vessel]

ok lets be real though, if you have to put in 30 hours to get to that rep over the course of a week, for something that's entirely optional and minute, that is sweaty

thats literally almost a full time job

lol

[dense elbow]

We are not talking down on people doing it. We are prob just a bit taken back by the effort given to partake in the farming systems

[south kayak]

This

[covert void]

it's wow? people will put hundreds of hours into wow next week and not bat an eyelid.

but doing renown content in the new zone is omg, how dare you spend time doing that.

[final birch]

You’re doing renown content to gain 78 main stat

[dense elbow]

You enjoy it?

[covert void]

I can't be fucked doing renown next week I want to do m+

[serene vessel]

r u ok m,an? No one is flaming u for this content

[tight bronze]

Is there any good streamer/guidewriter to follow for the new Raid? I am trying to weigh the differences between Fury/Arms in Raid setting. I see some places recommending sticking to Fury and others Arms.

[final birch]

It doesn’t matter even if you’re a mythic raider whether you do it now or in a few weeks

[covert void]

did I enjoy the new zone, quests etc? sure was okay. a few days of playing the game.

[final birch]

But yeah, like I said - you do you

[dense elbow]

If you are having fun, go ahead. I am more a casual m+ enjoyer

[covert void]

much more excited for m+ and glad most of that is done now tbf.

so I can focus on that stuff

[covert void]

which is absolutely fine lol of course

[dense elbow]

I am glad that the system is giving ppl value in entertainment

[serene vessel]

err yes but the point is that most people play wow and put a good amount of hours in wow to do the stuff they find fun. quite the difference

[willow cradle]

Its a boss by boss thing, but if you need to ask just play what you enjoy.

[dense elbow]

I don't get itt, but I am happy for you

[covert void]

for me getting to rep 16 was pretty casual.

18-20? not really.

[spare otter]

Personally I think they should just remove world content and just have dungeons and raids

[tight bronze]

I enjoy both, I need the in-depth info for each boss, and which spec is better on which etc.

[serene vessel]

ok but 30 hoursin a week is not casual lol

[dense elbow]

30 hours do sound more like doing it professionally, based on time spent

Still I guess it is just casual chill fun activity

[south kayak]

80% of the playerbase disagrees with you

if they do that, no one is going to play the game

[spare otter]

Don't take it seriously lol

I don't really think that

[covert void]

i mean, not sure where 30 hours got plucked from exactly. but it's interesting to me there's a time debate over wow now, considering the type of game it is.

[dense elbow]

Listening to podcasts, watching a movie, farming seeds

Sounds chill

[covert void]

people can put in 10-20-30.. so what?

how many in here will no life wow next week

so what

[dense elbow]

It sounds excessive that is all

[final birch]

My guy why are you so defensive

You’re only doing this for minimal gain

You wouldn’t do it otherwise

That’s the „issue” I believe

[covert void]

what? I did it because I wanted to do the new content and it literally is all you needed to do to get the renown pretty much

I find it hilarious you think I'm being defensive etc. 😂

it's a discussion

[dense elbow]

It is the way you formulate, do t worry about it

[spare otter]

I feel like they could make better content to farm rep instead of farming seeds tbh

[covert void]

I've seen a fair few people go on about how it's not worth it or it's sweaty or whatever else. it's quite literally just playing the game the last week. if that's a big deal to you then cool.

[dense elbow]

Hopefully we get some more quests and raid rep

Quests are always alright

[spare otter]

I like quests since they're fast but fuck me they're so boring

[dense elbow]

Not a fan of the budding friendships and events?

[spare otter]

Not at all

[rotund steppe]

i dont look forward to that cinematic

[spare otter]

I really dislike most of wows characters

[rotund steppe]

[spare otter]

I skip every single cinematic because I just can't stand it

[rotund steppe]

i hope next xpac with metzen back its gonna be good

[final birch]

I skip cinematic to do the content asap to go spam more m+

We are not the same

[spare otter]

Maybe but it just looks more of the same to me

[dense elbow]

Only time will tell

[half cargo]

There’s footage on twitter of people straight up exploiting

Gonna be very weird if people don’t get banned

[dense elbow]

Blizz don't ban that stuff

[final birch]

They did say they already started addressing the issue

But a ban idk

[covert void]

is it the macro trick they're targeting? I assume so

[spare otter]

I don't blame them for exploiting tbh

[dense elbow]

Exploit early and often. Week 1 rule

[spare otter]

Yea I didn't find out about it

Gg...

[half cargo]

The one I’m referring to is something that allows you to loot the same seed multiple times in a row

[covert void]

oh I see, didn't know about that one

[compact knot]

i think i did that on accident or it bugged

[dense elbow]

Ah, that is what they were doing. I thought it was just bots trapped in a loot window loop

[compact knot]

mine fell from the seed early and i was able to loot it twice

[half cargo]

Twice can be seen as a legitimate mistake

[compact knot]

+5 rep gg

[half cargo]

10 times in a row, on separate occasions is another matter

[covert void]

ahh that's what that was. I remember seeing it a few times actually. Just figured it was from a previous one or something I did when flying around and forgot to pick up lol.

[tulip swallow]

I usually just put my resources in and fly to a different one, yeah

[compact knot]

there would be like 2 mins left on the seed and it would fall off and then i was able to loot the seed again, i think it happened three times to me and i dont know what caused it

[autumn mica]

Seeds man

Can't see those anymore

Plants everywhere in my dreams

[modest condor]

dont call yourself a seed planter if you arent using the farmer title

[autumn mica]

Truee

Will lariat be better once it has full sockets on ST or it's still going to be shadowflame + allied?

for raid that is

[modest condor]

i dont think so, but i havent checked

[clever path]

my most recent sims point to yes, although only slightly

[hallow sphinx]

💋

[slim coral]

what are the actual two best trinkets

the sims and what archi has is bis are different

[sudden tusk]

Cata and augery

ownage

[runic otter]

does macroing thunderous roar and avatar together give the thunderous road the avatar bonus? does it matter what order we do the /cast?

[main inlet]

Good evening guys, a question, what piece of creation do you recommend?

[azure mesa]

The avatar is likely to go off first regardless of the order since it's off gcd. If you are spamming the button.

I personally don't think avatar and tf make for a good macro in any situation

[runic otter]

how come? they are both 1.5 min cds, and you want to burst during avatar windows. makes sense to cast them together

nothing else really buffs thunderous roar

[autumn mica]

You can but put avatar on the first line. And only for mythic+ and aoe this is good

As you can also macro reck / odyns in order. Which you will use first anyways

[runic otter]

i saw that spear sims only slightly better than roar. but with spear you could lose uptime if boss moves

[autumn mica]

But not for the spear

Yeah

Idk i'd still use spear for full single target

[deft shadow]

is there a site or content creator that puts all the dps warrior stuff together nicely? What spec is best for which boss and so forth?

[meager void]

critcake

[autumn mica]

@deft shadow just make one for st and cleave, then keep a close eye on the Fury warcraftlogs and you'll see what works the best most of the time

Who do u all think will win this time. Echo or Liquid ? ^

[deft shadow]

Hoping liquid. love both

critcake usually just post povs of keys and such, will do that though mads thanks for the info

[autumn mica]

Yw. Yeah usually so early i'd say it's a good thing to look at, as people still figuring out

[open wigeon]

Why I'm feeling that Fury is harder than Arms? WTF

[autumn mica]

Because fury is the way

[glass kelp]

Harder ? Hmm its either im good with fury or i got the wrong talent. I mean you open cds and then smash 2-3 buttons 😂

[keen dove]

You want to do reck-charge-of right so macroing reck/of is not the ideal no?

[autumn mica]

@keen dove for m+ and cleave it doesn't really matter

When you charge in and press reck+odyns. Your rage is over the mountain

No delays

But in single target with dancing blades. U have to reck before charge

[unique lake]

preferably you want to be enraged before using odyn's

[autumn mica]

Odyn's in m+ and cleave gives enrage on use

with our build

Only on single target we don't

due to dancing blades

[keen dove]

I believe u can still reck charge rampage of

On single target opener too

[autumn mica]

On single target yeah

On cleave when you charge and use reck/odyn's macro your rage will hit 120 instant you can sent rampage > bb > rampage > bb after. That extra second of reck also helps you reduce the cd of odyn's.

This is convenient for m+ and cleave but in single target you'd 100% have to reck before charge as you don't activate enrage by using odyn's so you need this rampage to happen

[keen dove]

True I just don’t understand the benefit of macroing OF cuz u have to send it every 30 seconds from different keybind anyways

Maybe it’s some QoL Idk

[autumn mica]

Mmm just for convenience if u can u should

I really wonder for single target, is Thunderous roar really that close to spear as someone mentioned earlier? haven't really compared the 2 on ST

[keen dove]

To be honest it’s roar all the way

As a melee dps u can’t just open rune of power under you

And stand in it

You can fit 5 globals on spear and that is maximum of 3 blootbaths 2 rampages

Even if spear sims higher which is I believe like %0.3 higher, I will still use roar

[snow edge]

Spear is a decent amount ahead of roar in pure patchwerk settings

But fights will dictate what’s actually better based on movement/ adds etc

[keen dove]

I mean on aberrus patch spear simmed higher too

But roar got the logs

[snow edge]

Umm not in ST fights, on MT sure

Again, fight design will dictate what’s best; but in a straight ST scenario with minimal movement Spear wins out

[azure mesa]

Spear should be fine to play on volcross just like it was on terros.
Maybe not as much on some of the other mostly ST fights though.

[open wigeon]

I feel that any split second of downtime I lose a stupidly amount of dps

[eternal sundial]

Well that's the same for Arms in execute

[keen dove]

That’s all melees tbh

[eternal sundial]

Also applies outside of it but u do so little before execute

[keen dove]

U want to stick to bosses ass 100% of the time

[open wigeon]

I dont feel like that much with arms somehow

[eternal sundial]

Lost a global = cs and tom wont overlap much Sadeg

AM is a plague to arms

[trail bane]

I would say the opposite, but it could simply be because ive played a lot of fury. My reasoning is that fury has no rage management while arms does. In fury you basically press the same buttons in the same order over and over. In arms you need to be aware of how much rage you have so you know what abilities to use.

[open wigeon]

maybe iam overthinking too much with fury

[south thunder]

Didn’t fury management kinda die coming into s3 for arms

Pre sure arms is swimming in it atm right

[molten wing]

the main concept of fury is build rage to blast rampage , the details are just not overcapping rage , and sending most of the cooldowns at the right time

[eternal sundial]

Right time being on cd

[autumn mica]

Best way to explain it. Arms = driving in range rover. Fury = ferarri

[spiral night]

Arms is pretty braindead until they fix rage management, its easy and boring AF - its the sole reason im swapping to fury this tier

[keen kindle]

I like arms more then fury...in part because fury tier is just a bunch of but why

[molten wing]

hey pressing OF more often sounds fun

[keen kindle]

Of dosent feel as good as rava

Also not cleaving the crits is just so fucking dumb

[spiral night]

its personal, i never liked ravager, too staionary and not bursty enough like OF

[keen kindle]

It felt fine to me

[spiral night]

youll rip treat with OF, AV+roar in keys now

[keen kindle]

Meh

Idk I just preffered how consistent am and rava were

[spiral night]

10.15 was high dps very little burst, now its lower dps and more on demand burst

[molten wing]

i miss Bladestorm for fury tbh , was cool where you coudl use it to skip some mechanics

[spiral night]

more spikey means more room for skill espression, tho probadly a worse mean

[autumn mica]

@molten wing Maiden in Karazhan M+ to skip the stun, was fun with bladestorm

[molten wing]

yeah or skipping some fear mechanics if Berserk Rage was down

[keen kindle]

I mean after playing arms I still don't like bs

[hallow roost]

eh is tierset really 30% or is that some scuffed sim

[versed plover]

From 0 piece to 4pc, not from 4pc aberrus to 4pc amirdrassil

It's garbage info

Pointless

[coral swan]

this tiers seems to be both fury and arms looking at boss fights

[young swan]

correct

arms looking good for council + fyrakk

fury looking good everywhere else

gonna have to see how it actually plays out

[spare otter]

How big is the difference though between each spec where one favours the other?

[coral swan]

not that much looking at sims

honestly

[young swan]

not enough to matter for 90% of mythic raiders

[spare otter]

Oh nice I think I'll probably just stick with one spec unless I get bored then

[urban nimbus]

Is it ok to not have Abberus tier going into the next season for a fresh 70 warrior?

[rugged tundra]

Can't you still use the catalyst shit

[young swan]

u can

[urban nimbus]

Will the ilv boost make it no longer a issue?

Yeah but next season it will catalyst into Emerald Dream tier by default.

And those have limited uses.

With 1 per 2 weeks with 1 from week one I think.

[rugged tundra]

Yeah but you can use it to get t30 currently

But goes away today/tomorrow so unless you haven't boosted yet

[spare otter]

Waaait you can

Whaaaat

[urban nimbus]

Won't be able to get to level 70 on my warrior by then.

[rugged tundra]

Oh thought you already had it

[spare otter]

So if Ur 70

You can just get 4p for free?

[errant vessel]

Are you sure it’s going away? Because 10.0 items are still upgradeable to VOTI iirc

[urban nimbus]

Yeah, not being maxlevel and able to get abberus tier is what makes me worried in the first place.

[rugged tundra]

Oh true i guess

But you can't really get t29 shit though

[urban nimbus]

At what ilv will non-tier be better than tier from Abberus btw?

[gray thunder]

[glass kelp]

Then you must be overcapping rage buddy.

[snow edge]

Yeh I really don't think that's a guaranteed scenario there

[glass kelp]

Does anyone here relies on u.gg/wow for rankings and stuff ?

[eternal sundial]

Idk man i just check wcl myself

For keys subcreation usually works

But u.gg does the same thing

[spiral night]

why are we taking Slaughtering strikes over bloodcraze in m+ for t31?

[summer quail]

coz bloodcraze does nothing in aoe

[glass kelp]

The talents on the front page of fury guide on Wowhead are the right ones for S3 ?

[errant vessel]

if you're really "lucky" you're getting 2 stacks of bloodcraze before it resets on aoe ye

Do you guys know if the Furious Bloodthirst stacks refresh on reapplication?

[molten wing]

mostly but you switch to those only after getting 2p of your new tierset

[errant vessel]

or if their stacks have an internal duration that runs parallel with the other stacks

[serene moat]

Not rly for free. U have to farm dreamsurges and the appropriate currency and buy the 415-437(?) Gear from the vendor there. This is the gear u can put into catalyst. U can buy 1 piece of -450 catalystable gear per week (only this week) there to.

[errant vessel]

Can't you do time rifts as well?

[oblique trail]

You can

[errant vessel]

or is the paracausal flake gear not catalystable

[oblique trail]

Both give you 1 piece of gear you can upgrade to 450

[errant vessel]

any notable pieces from dreamsurge?

like the paracausal fragments from time rift

[silk wharf]

You can also get 3 pieces from the suffusion camp

2 are always verteran and 1 is dependant onyour ilvl.

but theyre random.

[serene moat]

They are drops? Afaik drops can't be catalysed. Right? Good for other spots but not tier.

[silk wharf]

I didnt check if they can be catalyzed. but they can be upgraded.

[serene moat]

Up to 463

[silk wharf]

no, 450

is that tnot veteran

Apologies

Whatever max is 450

[serene moat]

U said veteran

[silk wharf]

Comparable to surge and rift

[serene moat]

Adventurer or sth

[delicate burrow]

what are our bis embellishments for S3

is it cloak and wrist ones that are shown on icy veins?

[serene moat]

Allied wrist and shadowflame I guess

Sporecloak got nerfed too hard

[silk wharf]

afaik its a shadowflame and allied wrists. youd ideally want the flame on a low budget piece cause it will eventually be 3 ilvls lower

But crafting it on a high budget piece is a substantial upgrade

given all the stats youll gain.

[serene moat]

Early on

[silk wharf]

Early on, yes

[serene moat]

You can change later too, if you wanna minmax

Goodbye food embellishment

[subtle lagoon]

Crafted rings aren't going to be good anymore?

[ancient badger]

I guess it can help you managing your stats distrib, but on max ilvl it will obviously become less powerful due to ilvl delta betweend crafted pieces and dropable ones

[hardy crow]

whats the stat prio looking like?

[serene moat]

U can go haste/mastery or vers/mastery afaik. Pretty even. Always sim yourself.

[subtle lagoon]

Different prio for m+ and raid it seems, looking like an always sim angle

[hardy crow]

thanks, of course, just working out some crafting sims

[fading sky]

Delta is 3ilvls fpr bis stat and socket crafted rings will still be very good

[hardy crow]

what are people crafting?

[fading sky]

At least ill do embellish first then rings tbh

[hardy crow]

and whats the best embellishments this tier?

[unborn canyon]

does anyone know what tier piece we prio first to last ?

[fading sky]

Allied bracer shadowflame cloak.

When fully socketed mby lariat above cloak

[shy knot]

How is fury looking in m+ ?

Arms seems to pull ahead it seems

[prisma hound]

get 4set > dont be picky about getting the wrong slot > fixing stats via sim in the upcomming weeks. The current ST sim says no legs. But as in all cases, sim yourself for your current gear.

[unborn canyon]

thanks , raid leader asked and all sources have something dif

[prisma hound]

usually the guides on wowhead and icy veins are on the spot and on the same page here 😄

[errant vessel]

Are we doing head, chest, gloves and legs as tier pieces?

[delicate burrow]

which crafted item should we make first

bracers or shadowflame patch

[deep niche]

we don't want legs

[delicate burrow]

what is the S2 fury ST build

[deep niche]

BgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAChIoEARQISQUgEiARSIJpFRSSQyBkkkEpEgkQEAAAAEE

[errant vessel]

How come? Because of preparation embellishment?

[deep niche]

shit stats?

[errant vessel]

It's haste/vers, no?

[copper folio]

Better legs exist🪖

[clever path]

according to wowhead we dont want head

[errant vessel]

Like these are the ones being used for bloodmallet sims

literally same stats just slightly more vers heavy

[eternal sundial]

Bloodmallet used 40 40 10 10

[pseudo carbon]

Wowhead bis tier is head

[oblique trail]

first boss legs are good

likely to be the best legs when you have the choice of picking and choosing all your gear

[errant vessel]

I guess it doesn't really matter

[deep niche]

sim > bis list

[errant vessel]

yeah

[oblique trail]

it doesn't because almost no one will ever be at the point of picking their gear willy nilly and actually be "bis"

[errant vessel]

ye and it's gonna be within ~0.1% of eachother with the amount of tuning you can do with gems

[clever path]

look above, its not

[pseudo carbon]

This

[pseudo carbon]

Yeah if you get vault head it might be better but best bet is to just sim it

[clever path]

ofc

but theres a BIS list, and tier legs are better then the head

if you aiming to get 4 pieces and not screw guildies

[oblique trail]

at this point of a patch launch literally anything will be an upgrade to you and your guildies

by the time that small stat changes matter, it'll be months into the patch where everyone likely will have had multiple chances to get said items

[errant vessel]

we don't know the stats on legendary either which will also mix it up a bit

[proud vessel]

What will be our trinkets for M+?

Most likely that is

[oblique trail]

Might of the Ocean/Mirror as on-use, signet or augury perhaps as a passive

[deep niche]

signet + ocean like 90%

[oblique trail]

Signet will definitely have value on bosses, but on packs it'd depend on how friendly a dungeon is to chain pulling, and how good your tank is at maintaining it

A dungeon like Throne you'll inevitably drop it due to a lot of downtime

[ornate gust]

Is there a guide that recommends which warrior spec we should pick per raid boss?

[lavish badge]

which bracers are people referring to? allied wristguards or primal molten with shadowflame patch?

[iron portal]

Pretty sure its not yet properly set

That being said, for normal and heroic you can really play any spec and for most mythic fights in general

You can check parses after raid opens to make some opinion though

[glass kelp]

what's the name of drums this season ?

[chrome plover]

they are called feral hide drums still

they will be for the whole of dragonflight I think

[chrome plover]

just wait and see what liquid/echo do

[mossy fox]

just use feeling

[summer quail]

just copy that critcake guy, he's decent

[chrome plover]

to be fair I recommended myself to pick fury on every boss

[serene vessel]

knock knock

[south kayak]

Yo did you get your renown rolled back

[mossy fox]

nope i didnt do any exploiting

[south kayak]

[summer quail]

ethical grinding

[chrome plover]

so funny that their 476 weapons went down to 424

jfc

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

get owned bozos

[south kayak]

That do be very funny

[summer quail]

what???

[south kayak]

Rip Bozo

[summer quail]

oh they crafted 1 hander with the wyrm crest?

[chrome plover]

those that exploited renown for an enchanted wyrms crest (some of echo and most of liquid)

lost it

yes

[summer quail]

[south kayak]

Man, i do love me some justice

Very funny too

This will feed me up for a few days

But then it’s back to depression

/s

[iron portal]

Box...

[ornate gust]

I keep doing that 🤣

[iron portal]

Smh

[south kayak]

Oh shit

It’s Soggo

Ondeeznuts

[iron portal]

🗞️

[chrome plover]

[atomic vigil]

are we gonna be swapping to annihilator at 2p or 4p?

[chrome plover]

2p

[south kayak]

What’s 2p again

OF damage?

[frosty scroll]

Odyn's Fury deals 50% increased damage and causes your next 6 Bloodthirsts to deal 150% additional damage and have 100% increased critical strike chance against its primary target.

oops

[south kayak]

Damn the power is all in the 2p

[chrome plover]

it's the enitre thing pretty much

yeah

[south kayak]

[frosty scroll]

ye our 2p is crazy good

4p

[chrome plover]

4set is cdr for OF

which is also huge... because you get to use 2p more often

[south kayak]

4p is good too, no?

Yep

I might not be playing warrior

Maining yellow, warrior prob alt

[modest needle]

so whatr do we use our first crest on? do we save it for a weapon or something?

[chrome plover]

firszst embellishment

[south kayak]

Weapon drops from first boss

Shouldn’t be hard to get it

So focus on something else

[chrome plover]

piss class

[south kayak]

Outlaw owns

[chrome plover]

me fury + survival

living the dream

[south kayak]

I did some m+ on outlaw and it’s kinda strong

[south kayak]

I heard you have to cancel fury of the early

Eagle

Is that right

[chrome plover]

on st you cancel it for a bomb yeah

[south kayak]

That’s stupid

[chrome plover]

doesnt do any damage unfortunately

but it fucking owns on aoe

[south kayak]

They need to make it worth it on st

[modest needle]

okay thanks for the tips lads

[chrome plover]

would be nice, it's a giga fun button

[dry talon]

Any news on legendary?

[south kayak]

Reminds me of when monks cancelled fof

[south kayak]

No sir

[chrome plover]

we wont know until someone drops it probably at this point

[worn stag]

Hey with when is the annhilator build stronger with 2set / 2set or at T31 4 set?

[chrome plover]

2 set

[chrome plover]

yeah that's almost worse somehow

[worn stag]

thx

[chrome plover]

i guess because it's such a short cast

it seems worse to me

or when warriors cancelled bladestorm from that dumb legendary

I think it's more comparable to that

[dry talon]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-it-gif-24870550

[south kayak]

It’s kinda weird to me surv doesn’t use the talents for eagle

[chrome plover]

well you do in aoe

its insane

but it's not worth it in st because you always have shit to press and it doesnt do that much damage

or do you mean aspect of the eagle

[south kayak]

No it’s fury

[chrome plover]

yeah I was just confirming you didnt mean aspect

which you dont take

either

[random raptor]

Has anyone put together a priority list for items from M+ by chance?

[fading bane]

Wep > Trinkets >>> Rest

[random raptor]

Ok ty

[minor halo]

Has anyone noticed we can not be unstanced in 10.2 ?

[chrome plover]

I think I've never been unstanced aside from changing specs

does it just put you in berserker stance when you change specs now?

[slim pollen]

Pretty sure it stil unstances you on spec change

[minor halo]

Ok that's true

But why can I no longer unstance myself on purpose

[slim pollen]

Why would you? 😂

[minor halo]

Part of my UI/Keybinds are hidden on stance, removing stance would pop up everything if I wanted change/tweek keybinds

[clever path]

Why would you do that

[chrome plover]

I didnt even know you could turn it off ngl but that sounds convoluted

[clever path]

This isn't ye olden days where X button requires Y stance

[minor halo]

UI on a stance which is 24/7

No stance

Anyway, why the fuck would they remove the option to remove stance in 10.2

[chrome plover]

i understand what you're saying but why on earth do you need to change what's shown based on stance

[sand nacelle]

no stance to rebind keys I guess?

[chrome plover]

you do the exact same shit when you sit in defensive stance to tank something

[minor halo]

Exactly

[chrome plover]

why not have everything show up in def stance

then you also get reminded you're still in def stance

[minor halo]

Because when I put defensive stance in raid/dungeon

[clever path]

Imagine not using a stance macro in 2023

[minor halo]

I don't fucking want everything to show up?

[sand nacelle]

brb incoming damage, pop dstance, get bombarded with UI

[chrome plover]

idk just have a good ui that doesnt rely on in game mechanics to edit

💀

seems like a janky way of doing things

[clever path]

You literally press the exact same fucking buttons in Berserker Stance as you do in Defensive Stance

[chrome plover]

yeah i wasnt sure i got that part either

[slim pollen]

If you are changing keybinds, you're (most likely) not in combat, meaning you can toggle bars on/off in edit mode to make those changes. Tying it to stances just seems weird to me 👀

[eternal sundial]

Party frames spot is whack

No shot u ever look there

[chrome plover]

it hurts my head but i chose to ignore it

im not a ui advisor

[eternal sundial]

No omni cd

Or rather no open world ocd which is ok

[wild python]

Got time out for writting a bad word

[wild python]

To avoid clutter on screen?

[clever path]

Imagine not learning to dodge the filter like a pvp chad

[eternal sundial]

Been there done that

[clever path]

What fucking clutter

[wild python]

Removing stance was 10x faster than opening options etc..

[eternal sundial]

Pull a manof and defend yourself for being called swedish

And ur gonezo forever

[clever path]

Lmao

But seriously it's not hard to have a Stance swap macro on your bar and call it a day

[wild python]

reading comprehension is hard

[clever path]

What reading comprehension? You are making a UI tied around stance swapping, when the only fucking thing that changes is "Oh, I need to go back to Berserker"

[outer bluff]

Definitely considering it for the Damage Reduction

[clever path]

10% DR is goated, but it's not a full time thing

[outer bluff]

Yeh

[slim pollen]

You don't seem to realize he's not talking about different abillities showing up in different stances, but about having hidden bars with keybindings that never show up at all except for when he needs to change keybindings, which he could do outside of stances before, but doesn't work anymore

[wild python]

If you could read you'd know it has nothing to do with stance swap
If you could see you'd know there's a fucking stance macro on the screen

[clever path]

It's a fucking non-issue

[eternal sundial]

Yappers hooooly

[wild python]

Warriors were allowed to be unstanced for years, now all of a sudden in 10.2 you can't unless you swap specs

[clever path]

It's fucking Warrior, how many buttons do you need?

[fading bane]

i just dont understand the problem lmao

[wild python]

You can't remove stance from your buffs

[wild python]

I'm gonna get timed out again for using bad words

[clever path]

Fucking shitter lmao

[wild python]

Reading too hard nowadays

[fading bane]

idk how you expect help from anyone here on a problem youve made up yourself, no one else has these issues

[clever path]

He's acting like an 80 IQ fuckwit, treat him like one

[wild python]

I simply ask if someone noticed how you can no longer be unstanced in 10.2
someone pointed out you can if you swap specialisations

[fading bane]

but why would u ever by unstanced?

[chrome plover]

to edit his keybinds

duh

[wild python]

bunch of morrons have to comment "make a stance macro" completely unrelated to the topic

[trail bane]

Has anyone noticed that we dont have the old talent system anymore?

[fading bane]

moron*

[slim pollen]

No, he stated a problem, you got riled up and started swearing at people like a 12 year old for no reason after not understanding his problem.
No, it's not the end of the world, but it's a random inconvenience blizz added out of nowere.
No reason to get so mad

[chrome plover]

yeah it was just 1 guy repeatedly telling you to use a stance macro

[clever path]

Still needs a Stance Macro

[chrome plover]

but he has one

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-community-room-fire-pizza-gif-5612111

[clever path]

Shut up, I want to see how long I can keep him pissed

[eternal sundial]

What do you mean no stance macro

[chrome plover]

also carrying on the convo on a different discord account after getting timed out

[south kayak]

Berserker stance is a dps loss

[chrome plover]

is kinda....

[fading bane]

lmao

[clever path]

[left perch]

Ban circumvention detected

[iron portal]

My my

What a treat

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cYznqDvvonoyvnUnzhnXrK hey brothers
Did you know this?

Allied Wristguard of Companionship Crafting a Shadow Flame Wrist has higher dps than this. Wow.

[summer quail]

yes for st, allied wrists will have higher for mt

[fading bane]

its so incredibly small

and Shadowflame has no MT value

always vers wrists

[summer quail]

when you have numbers like 233k losing 400 damage is tiny

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qQP1ymFP2NQJ1QDL1Pzg23

5 targets, 2 minutes
As you said, the AWoC wrist is a bit higher in MT.

What are you going to produce?

[summer quail]

gonna get the allied wrists for sure, adds a bit of survivability as well

[burnt stone]

So are you guys planning on making AWoC wrists for the first time?

[summer quail]

i am atleast, can't speak for others. will never replace them, good for both dps specs as well

[fading bane]

literally everyone is making AWoC first

there is no other option

[summer quail]

i guarantee you some people will make sflame wrists, they just look at the tiny gain in st

100%

[south kayak]

What’s that

[summer quail]

versa wrists

[south kayak]

Ok

[burnt stone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p4BAEmnzJUbNrZNKRLRgTZ

So how about this?

Dreamtender's Charm cloak is better in MT than Shadowflame cloak.

Is this even worth making?

[summer quail]

no don't think so, will have pretty inconsistent uptime i think

[chrome plover]

nah one guy yesterday was convinced we should make shadowflame first on a high budget slot and flamed me when i explained why he shouldnt

[fading bane]

its just so funny when something is so set in stone

but people has to try to figure out a better alternative

[silent burrow]

Friend of mine updated his spell reflect group plater mod if anyone used that in s2 https://wago.io/SSzf2fBE1

[fading bane]

when there is none

[toxic grove]

anyone has single minded fury build?

[eternal sundial]

Legendary

[silent burrow]

[summer quail]

hell ye

[fading sky]

meh cant get it to work

nwm it came up now

thats weird

@silent burrow thank you for posting it

[silent burrow]

Make sure to share with your friends you do keys with or it's pointless

and I misspoke calling it a weakaura, it's a plater mod

This is the deal that changes what the cast bar looks like/says if the cast is on a warrior that has reflect up

to stop people from kicking your reflects

[wild mural]

SMF is

[silent burrow]

[weak tulip]

BT aura available ?

mine isnt working anymore

[eternal sundial]

@wild mural join me WCM key prison 😳

[fading sky]

ah so basicly i all the grp needs it ?:D

[wild mural]

Can we hold hands

[eternal sundial]

If trinket drops yes

[silent burrow]

Yeah they need plater and to have the mod installed

[wild mural]

Yay

What trinket

Oh magus trinket

[silent burrow]

He made it for me because our group kept kicking all of my reflects non stop, but it's pretty helpful if you do have people you run with normally so I share with yall

cause it brings me physical pain to get my reflects kicked because people are too dense

[fading sky]

Yeah

it feel that :). u c big reflect inc then stun

😄

[south kayak]

It sucks when a boss targets you with a spell and you reflect for it but someone kicks it

[silent burrow]

Yeah this deal changes the color and text of the cast bar

and literally says "don't reflect idiot"

err don't interrupt

lol

[south kayak]

[stable gulch]

If i do a +20 what lvl is my vault item gonna be tomorrow after reset

[fading bane]

the same as every vault in s2

[silent burrow]

^

[south kayak]

isn't it going to be season 2 item?

[stable gulch]

Kk

[south kayak]

no reason to do keys tam

atm

unless u do a 30 to get 20

[stable gulch]

Was wondering if it was usefull

[south kayak]

[glass kelp]

Do we use Spell reflection as well, or just prot tanks ?

[fading bane]

you do key to get higher key to start with

[silent burrow]

Please lord use spell reflect

[fading bane]

if ur key was a timed 20 you get a 9

[chrome plover]

you'll still get to skip 2-9 if you start with a 9

which is nice

[fading bane]

ill have a 17

[chrome plover]

ill have a 2

[silent burrow]

I'll have whatever the other people I'm doing keys with have

idc lol

[fading bane]

i had a 2 last season

[chrome plover]

i didnt have time off work last season

[limber mirage]

Good luck with all raiders tonight! May servers be up swiftly lol

[silent burrow]

I'm gonna dip from work to spam keys all afternoon

hopefully lol

[chrome plover]

gonna spam keys, but im just gonna chill with my gf pugging all day and not take it too seriously

[bitter fable]

That actually sounds great

[silent burrow]

We gonna do a bit of fishing for trinkets and weps

[chrome plover]

and then I'll show up to raid and everyone will be 480

and it's no longer feeling great

[silent burrow]

hahaha

[bitter fable]

😅

[chrome plover]

but my gf doesnt raid with me anymore and I stress her out when I'm trying to tryhard

[silent burrow]

And raid is like charlie wtf you been doing bruv

[chrome plover]

need to find a comfy middle ground

so she isnt having a bad time with me forcing her into hard keys

[clever belfry]

bro if u dont raid 69h a week

youre a cringe casual

[fading bane]

i raid 30 hours a day

[clever belfry]

good work d2

[silent burrow]

honestly even if you're getting upgrades that are low ilvl you can upgrade them bitches for free

so who cares

[chrome plover]

yeah its fine gearing system is so giga good im not worried

[silent burrow]

yeah you'll be good

[frosty scroll]

is there a thingy to sim t30 vs t31 same ilvl upgrades for raidbots?

[silent burrow]

the results already exist

[chrome plover]

but I look at the 5 stack group who are waking up at 5am and did a 28 or w/e this week

and I'm like damn

[silent burrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/edit#gid=705110442

there's 4pc -> 4pc tab there

If all you wanna know is what fury's is

[fading bane]

nice

[proud vessel]

how does it work with the crests you get from dreamseeds farm? I dont have my season 90 yet but im no longer getting them
is there like a daily max?

[fading bane]

if you just do enough m+ next week youll cap it anyway

[proud vessel]

Thanks

Is it worth already upgrading items or better to wait?

[fading sky]

i mean depends

i got a weap there i just send em

[wild mural]

I’m gonna be running loads of keys with my mates

Hopefully get some good drops

[silver mantle]

I don't know how to use a flowchart.

[wild mural]

Show up to Sunday raid stacked

[wild mural]

[silent burrow]

[south kayak]

It took me a few weeks to get 440+ in season 2 @chrome plover

because I only do heroic raid and m+ (not much)

[ionic herald]

For a returning player without tier pieces and saw the 450 4set s2 video too late and wasted the tokens on other slots, what rotation is go to?

T30 build without the set? Or just get used to t31?

[south kayak]

You can get 4p by using the dreamsurge 415 items and get them to 437

@ionic herald

[ionic herald]

Oh

[south kayak]

very eay

easy

just need a bit of flightstones

[ionic herald]

That actually not bad idea, I’ll look into that!

[south kayak]

yeah i have 4p that way

[ionic herald]

See if I have the time to farm it

[south kayak]

spam dawn of the infinite hc in lfg

quick and gives a hefty amount of flightstones

[ionic herald]

Cheers m8

[south kayak]

[chrome plover]

mythic raid doesnt add much really

we rekilled first 3 once

and then extended

and I was benched second week

[south kayak]

damn

[chrome plover]

guild's kazzara mythic kills

[south kayak]

I don't know if that's good or not

[dense elbow]

They did the whole raid in "2" months

Pretty decent I would say

[chrome plover]

I think extending super early is a good thing personally

[chrome plover]

[frosty scroll]

so, since our 2p stacks up to 6 bts, can i just of and avatar in the opener or would losing out on that one dancing blades buff be detrimental

[fickle bluff]

especially with the new upgrade system

[narrow narwhal]

:woo:

[chrome plover]

[fickle bluff]

youd lose both dancing blades and the dot that OF applies

[oblique trail]

You clip the bleed massively if you use them at the same time, which is more damage lost than clipping some of Dancing Blades

So you space the uses to avoid clipping the dot

[frosty scroll]

so i can ignore dancing blades as soon as the first bleeds gone?

[oblique trail]

Dancing Blades isn't what you're playing around, so just pretend it's like Slaughtering Strikes in that regard where it wont directly influence anything

[frosty scroll]

alright thank u

[oblique trail]

The opener assuming DB and Spear would be
Reck + Charge -> Rampage -> OF -> Spear -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Bloodbath -> Avatar -> Rampage -> Bloodbath and repeat

[south kayak]

[south kayak]

Don't you wanna have avatar at the start

[oblique trail]

no

[south kayak]

it's 20% damage

[oblique trail]

you get Avatar from OF

[south kayak]

4 seconds?

[oblique trail]

yes

[south kayak]

ok

[oblique trail]

and then you avatar mid opener

[south kayak]

ok fair

[oblique trail]

You just want to make sure that you have Avatar all of the Spear window

If you play Roar, you just place it at the same place as Spear in the opener and Avatar basically stays the same place

[dense elbow]

TT is such a scuffed talent

Remove it, buff OF base dam by 51%

let OF fly free from the shackles

[oblique trail]

Remove titans torment and lose half of your 2set

Also I don't get where this 51% is from

Titans torment is fine, OF gets buffed by the set

[south kayak]

OF is very strong

[golden hare]

nerf OF or

[oblique trail]

nerf dn

[south kayak]

buff rampage

[dense elbow]

51% is perfect, trust

[oblique trail]

ok

[iron portal]

Nerf Critcake, no toxic

[silver mantle]

You're all wrong. Buff rav is the obvious play here.

[south kayak]

OF would be good if it always crit

[iron portal]

Like good old days in Legion with BC

[molten wing]

add this as a talent next to OF

[south kayak]

isnt this already in

[dense elbow]

OF doing fire dam, with a lot of bells and whistles too

[south kayak]

except for the shitty rng

[iron portal]

Well only first was rng iirc

[south kayak]

it gives rage now anyway

[iron portal]

Next one would be the other one

[south kayak]

Funky why are you still typing

[iron portal]

Prob his cat

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/bills-ugh-gif-9811803164280522639

[dense elbow]

Nah, just reading chat with some "words" written

Fatfingering on the phone basically

[south kayak]

lmao

[brave cairn]

boys are we based or are we cringe in the next season?

only real answers

[subtle lagoon]

cringe

[oblique trail]

how do you feel rn about warriro

[south kayak]

basedn't

[brave cairn]

i dunno if i like the current warrior

[south kayak]

then it's cringe

[dense elbow]

Cringe

[brave cairn]

mashing bloodbath + rampage sounds kinda brainless

[south kayak]

as if it wasn't already braindead

[oblique trail]

Because you didn't already mash RB + Rampage before?

[dense elbow]

Just as much brainpower as before

[south kayak]

[dense elbow]

[brave cairn]

its even less now no? we dont use onslaught, no raging blow

[oblique trail]

it's the same amount of buttons basically

that you press

[brave cairn]

[south kayak]

the occassional bloodthirst is what made it hard man...

[chrome plover]

how many aspects crests is 1 upgrade?

[south kayak]

idk

15

or 30

[chrome plover]

that's a big difference

[south kayak]

[silver mantle]

Some guys over at the arms channel said "fury joever" because we will rage starve

[oblique trail]

rage starve?

[brave cairn]

fury rage starving in current day?

[dense elbow]

What

[brave cairn]

maybe 5 years ago that was the case

[oblique trail]

keep them out of the kitchen

[brave cairn]

not even 5 tho way before

[silver mantle]

Apparently, annihilator won't generate enough rage uWu

[dense elbow]

Don't worry, played PTR, rage is fine

[south kayak]

fury has never rage starved

not in the history of wow

[subtle lagoon]

Damage starved

[dense elbow]

[brave cairn]

i tested the new build with t30 season set and even without the tier set i had no problem with rage uptime

[south kayak]

based

[oblique trail]

If you have a WF guy in your group as well it'll be very noticeable

[mossy fox]

skullemoji

[south kayak]

💀

[oblique trail]

And Fury is very high prio for WF as well

[dense elbow]

51% OF baseline dam would fix the dam starvation. Just sayin

[south kayak]

it's the top for wf

no?

[oblique trail]

prett ysure sub is above Fury

by quite a bit

[shadow rover]

whats the buff from the new 4pc called

[south kayak]

damn the fuck, why

[oblique trail]

It's from 2p

Furious Bloodthirst or smthing

[shadow rover]

kk ty

[oblique trail]

Don't ask me I don't play sub

The spec stinks

[south kayak]

it got reworked kinda

a bit different

[oblique trail]

yeah well

believe it or not rogue as a whole did

[south kayak]

anyone remember this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1155731369952034896/bongofury.gif

can I have an updated version please

[silver mantle]

Dual-wield leggo

Let's go

[dense elbow]

No - that was the final version

[south kayak]

transmog

[south kayak]

i did a key as outlaw yday, was banging

[frosty scroll]

🪵

wtf

i cant woo no more ☹️

[south kayak]

what

[mossy fox]

[meager void]

rogue is closeted-smf imho

[south kayak]

wish smf was transmog only

[silver mantle]

Nitro discrimination

[molten wing]

tbh now was the time for them to add Kings Rest instead of atal dazar

[oblique trail]

happy for you

[molten wing]

so we dual wield the leggo and Geti

[oblique trail]

I did keys with an assa rogue and havoc dh

I got beat every key

[south kayak]

im sorry

[dense elbow]

If only we could get Geti

[south kayak]

havoc do be broken

[mossy fox]

i got beat most keys this week too

[wanton flower]

assa rogue is absolutely slamming in keys, its wild

[molten wing]

Havoc is nutty especially if they get lucky on the Immolation procs

[south kayak]

it is but outlaw is even better

[south kayak]

i once got triple immolation aura procs

[dense elbow]

Ragefire for 32% of their dam, opop

[oblique trail]

Assa does insane AoE and Prio damage

So

Don't know if Outlaw does that

[south kayak]

well, so does outlaw

since they cleave off prio targets with blade flurry

[molten wing]

both specs are giga , sub is a bit meh

[south kayak]

but i think sin might do more prio target damage

their kingsbane is broken

i got like a 500k kingsbane tick

this week

[dense elbow]

At least it ain't PTR broken

Millions of dam

[chrome plover]

[mossy fox]

take the fob arms pill

[dense elbow]

Noh

OF tier

[oblique trail]

I did with 1h + shield

peak 400k on 5 target dummies

[iron portal]

Oh no

[dense elbow]

OF strong, will get buffed

[mossy fox]

I heard of this benzai

[oblique trail]

Spongie tried with a dagger

and beat me..

[south kayak]

very easy get beat by havoc when you don't even need to play well, just use immolation aura and walk around and you're top dps

[chrome plover]

dagger bis?

[molten wing]

ptsd from basically living in KR for most of BFA

[graceful rapids]

Critrogue coming this season

[iron portal]

Ptsd from Zul

[south kayak]

i don't know about yo uguys but i was very surprised havoc didn't get a nerf in most recent tuning post

[mossy fox]

i got beat cause i was playing

[south kayak]

too afraid to go fury and get beat?

[brave cairn]

surely our buffs will come, its not as dark as it looks

[glad coyote]

exacc tly

[dense elbow]

Classes are balanced around new tier and the legendary

[lapis slate]

https://tenor.com/bVKzX.gif

[south kayak]

fury is balanced around the legendary

holy cope

[molten wing]

only can beat havocs

[south kayak]

when fury was balanced around gavel

it was still not that good

[wanton flower]

im swapping to WAR this tier from WW monk, so surely it'll be better than its been going for me. right?

[oblique trail]

Anything is better than ww

[south kayak]

yes

that is definitely true

welcome to non-ignored spec

[oblique trail]

pretty sure I'd rather raid heal than reroll windwalker

[wanton flower]

pain

[lapis slate]

you could go afk and be better off than ww

[heady lichen]

welcome to the best class in wow

[south kayak]

you can play candy crush and be better off than ww

[dense elbow]

I kinda hope Fury tanks on the meters, so I get my danged OF buff

[molten wing]

im 99.9% sure the legendary effect is another Gavel where you do what Fyrakk did and tear a "rift" into the Dream and you will probably get a random buff that slaps

[south kayak]

what makes you think theyll buff of instead of something else

[south kayak]

i said the same thing as a joke a few weeks ago

[dense elbow]

[mossy fox]

i just went arms instead

[south kayak]

didn't go over well

[wanton flower]

🫡

[silver mantle]

Knowing bliz, they will instead buff annihilator or smth

[south kayak]

show me next pull with no cds

[mossy fox]

1.2m dps 37sec into the pull

[clever belfry]

arm or leg

[dense elbow]

Buffs slam

[mossy fox]

its not that bad tbh

[lapis slate]

"you want bloodthirst buff?"

[dense elbow]

[south kayak]

sorry im just very

[clever belfry]

early in 10.1.5
i had a mage sit on 1.4 82s into a pull there

i was

stunned

was fair and balanced

[south kayak]

are you playing bs

crit

[mossy fox]

ye mages were insane broken early on

[modest condor]

i remember first day mage

doing 800k+ dps for the whole part between first and second boss

[mossy fox]

took many nerfs to bring them back down to earth

[mossy fox]

no

[south kayak]

TR is so strong

carrying arms damage

(on aoe)

[dense elbow]

Titanic Rage?

[clever belfry]

[south kayak]

Thunderous Roar