fury

[golden hare]

:3

[tall surge]

So sporecloak shield was nerfed but it still gives around 500 vers at 486 ilvl above 70% health doesn't it?

[oblique trail]

no

vers was also nerfed

everything was

[rose cloud]

Don't say that, look at these beauties

[sullen dove]

corndogs

[serene vessel]

u look like a bug

[golden hare]

stop using helmets!"!!!!!

[tall surge]

So how much vers it gives now?

[oblique trail]

like 120 or something at 486

[serene vessel]

13 verse

[sullen dove]

👑

[oblique trail]

it got nerfed by 75%

[warm crag]

super baesd

[sullen dove]

All helmets bad, make your face look good it’s that easy

[covert blaze]

Not using helmets for plate is a crime

[oblique trail]

any horde race except blood elf moment

[golden hare]

yea you should be locked up

[sullen dove]

There’s like 3 good plate helmets

[jovial coral]

Uuuh have you even created a character Erga

[golden hare]

uuhhhh

yeah++

[jovial coral]

The customization isnt really top notch

[sullen dove]

We’ll also partly cuz helmets don’t fit on other races except for belf

[golden hare]

don't care

i look good

[oblique trail]

you do

[sullen dove]

[jovial coral]

Irl

[oblique trail]

I've seen you

[sullen dove]

send pic now

[jovial coral]

But not in game

[oblique trail]

when I look through your window

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

vulpera ??

[covert blaze]

I've seen it from inside the walls

[oblique trail]

sorry I didn't want to include vulpera in the same sentence as horde because nothing compares to it, and putting them next to each other would diminish vulpera

[sullen dove]

[warm crag]

how is benzai so accurate

[golden hare]

brain

[oblique trail]

smooth

[jovial coral]

He drinks gasoline

[oblique trail]

I have indeed consumed copious amounts of questionable liquids

[sullen dove]

that may or may not be combustible

[tall surge]

Is that sporecloak nerf on live servers already?

[sullen dove]

yes

[oblique trail]

yes

I am currently enjoying my 86 vers, 2k hp regen, 21k shield sporecloak

a whole lot

[fading bane]

sheesh

[sullen dove]

any enjoyers do the archon quest

[sullen dove]

powerful

[lilac totem]

for crafted gear since the -3 ilvl for crafted, we only do embellish right? basically i can make 476 allied bracers so im asking if i do that now (i dont care about crafting again for the 486)

[fading bane]

wouldve been nice to have 2x embellishments that dont lose any value on MT as BIS

[tall surge]

Cause on wowhead it's still decent

[fading bane]

aswell as a cheat death

[golden hare]

wowhead tooltips are noit alwas the most acdurate

[sullen dove]

You have the heroic crest from farming renown 20 but don’t care about making a higher ilvl piece than 476

[jovial coral]

Maybe it is time

[golden hare]

no!!!

[lilac totem]

no like, maybe worded poorly. im going to craft 476 rn and when i get my aspects done going to recraft a second time to 486. just asking if i do allied bracers now? or shadowflame? best to sim?

[jovial coral]

I just wanna play man

[golden hare]

play then.. :/

[jovial coral]

But I don't

[sullen dove]

Bracers is probably first yes, but I’m saying you can’t make a 476 without a crest, cause base spark ilvl is like 463

[lilac totem]

i hit renown 20

[fading bane]

seeds

[lilac totem]

seeds for around 37 hours like an absolute degen

[fading bane]

if you get the 20 renown

i wouldnt recraft it to max ilvl insta

[golden hare]

based

[oblique trail]

erga

do not

[fading bane]

id spend those 4 extra crests on upgrading other pieces

[golden hare]

love rep grinds

[jovial coral]

Maybe next expansion we go world first +80 key

[oblique trail]

it's not worth it

[fading bane]

otherwise why the fuck did u do the grind

[oblique trail]

do not remind yourself of dirt

[golden hare]

maybe i log on to grind seeds

[sullen dove]

[fading bane]

5 rep per seeed xddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[oblique trail]

🧑‍🌾 🪴

[golden hare]

🧑‍🌾

[warm crag]

farming

[sullen dove]

500 seeds a level

[lilac totem]

i have a lot of free time lol

like. a lot

[sullen dove]

[dapper goblet]

if you are farming seeds for 10 rep consider getting help

👨‍🦼

[next canopy]

^ hahaha

[sullen dove]

you mean 5

🧎‍♂️

[serene vessel]

guys u know u can just buy a wow token for 15 dollarydoos and u can sell that and it will give u the equivalent of 200 augment runes?

u dont have to grind seeds for 37 hours straight

[left perch]

hey shut up you

[next canopy]

Bro I was chilling in the new zone and I was like this is a bootleg ardenweald

[left perch]

logic enjoyer

[golden hare]

why would i spend even more money

game and sub is already expensive

[serene vessel]

as opposed to wasting 40 hours of ur life?

[next canopy]

Once 19th anniversary passes I’m unsubbing

[narrow narwhal]

Why spend money on wow when you can spend money on ETFs

[golden hare]

what else is there to do in game rn

[next canopy]

Push IO

[serene vessel]

u know u can do other things besides just play wow right?

[narrow narwhal]

Wage cage

[golden hare]

yea i think pushing io is a worse path to take

[golden hare]

i am well aware, i don't play wow at all

[covert blaze]

what you pushing bud

[jovial coral]

Erp with me and @oblique trail

[serene vessel]

me neither 🙂

[left perch]

What’s 19 again, some deathwing mount?

[next canopy]

Yes sir

[left perch]

hell yea

[next canopy]

Blue

Style

[left perch]

let’s get matching ones besties

[golden hare]

another deathwing mount?!

[next canopy]

Well we match everything else so why not

[next canopy]

It’s so sexy

The biggest item in WoW that I will never be able to get is the PvP mounts from season 1 DF

That dragon is so sick

I wish I could get it

[left perch]

isn’t there a blue recolor coming of it too?

or was that rumor mill for s3/s4

[next canopy]

The PvP?

[left perch]

yea

[next canopy]

Never heard of that

[fickle bluff]

theres a blue version in the files

could be for s4

[next canopy]

It’s is 19th anniversary

[next canopy]

I wanted the red. I don’t think it’ll ever be available again? Pvp stuff is exclusive

[left perch]

yea that model is so good

[left perch]

Nah it’s gone

[next canopy]

This is nice

[left perch]

illegal or bust

[next canopy]

Maybe one day…

I’d pay for that real $$$

[left perch]

Blizzard missing an opportunity with NFT here tbh

just ruin the rest of the game but who cares

[sullen basin]

missing an opportunity to lose money? to make a bunch of dudebros blind?

[next canopy]

Agree @left perch

[left perch]

Just allow players to trade items like nft and take a cut

[rigid stirrup]

who's got the cleanest ui here

[left perch]

[rigid stirrup]

and can I steal it

[left perch]

Phil

[charred drum]

I'm looking at the bis list and i see that the cloak is crafted is it worth it to craft it now ?

[left perch]

no

[sullen basin]

i got the default ui cant be that bad right

[fickle bluff]

could be worse

could be elvui

[golden hare]

philliam UI is solid i think yea

[spice vine]

Default Ui owns

[sullen dove]

default >>> anything else 🤓

"oh no! its a new patch and my entire ui broke i cant play the game!"

just never have that problem in the first place

[sullen basin]

https://tenor.com/view/fax-tbh-kenshin-gif-22083544

[sullen dove]

dps meters in a bit of a strange spot tho ngl

[clever belfry]

thats the entire point

of renown 20 yes

[sullen basin]

its jus tthe best spot for me

[sullen dove]

middle of your screen on the left kinda free real estate for lookin at boss mechanics while bottom right pretty empty

[sullen basin]

i dont heal i dont need to see raid frames

feels wrong because its my bag spot

[fading bane]

This guy wanted to make his wrists at hc ilvl first, then get aspects and make it mythic

[sullen dove]

think it just overtakes details normally

[clever belfry]

xdddddddddddddddddd

[fading bane]

But then why farm seeds

I cant conprehend it

[clever belfry]

lets spend 123151h to farm seeds

to fully waste it

gg

[sullen dove]

he is prepared to FARM rank 1's on first clear

@clever belfry did you do new quest

[clever belfry]

yea

ofc

[sullen basin]

just craft your one hand sword at 463

[sullen dove]

so fucking good 😭

[sullen basin]

best use of spark

[clever belfry]

its good but im very unhappy w/ paimo nand traveler

[sullen dove]

[frosty karma]

[sullen dove]

paimon tbh was really stupid like moreso than usual

[sullen basin]

I'm committing to smf (until i get the axe)

[sullen dove]

kind of unfort traveler did what they did but i mean it sorta had to happen, and in the like inner world it was clear she wasnt gonna spill the beans anyway

[sullen basin]

I don't do mythic its fine i wont get gkicked for it

[frosty karma]

[clever belfry]

no spoilers 😠

ive done it but

i wont explain why exactly i am angered cause yea

[sullen basin]

did they ever eat paimon

[sullen dove]

ain nobody else here plays genshin

[sullen basin]

the rations

[sullen dove]

i wish

[clever belfry]

vil

aagaard will start again

[tardy lark]

[sullen dove]

no way vil hasnt done it yet

[clever belfry]

cause i showed him fuuny dehya team

[sullen dove]

epic

[clever belfry]

ive been cooking furina teams

[sullen dove]

ya i mean the first 20 minutes of questing is what made me the most annoyed at paimon

[tardy lark]

friend told me about furina/nahida/new char/dehya as well

[sullen dove]

when navia says what happened and paimon goes "OH NO WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?"

[clever belfry]

u mean neuv in that team?

[sullen dove]

how fucking stupid can she be

[tardy lark]

probably

[clever belfry]

also annoyed at her in the poisson part w/ furina

it works but u kinda drop her stacks a lot

[sullen dove]

eh dont remember what she said

[clever belfry]

id run pamber on nahider there

[sullen dove]

pamber?

oh weapon

[sullen basin]

waiting for this super important talent change by removing/moving this useless "heal and delete bad stuff" button

[frosty karma]

is it still bugged

[sullen dove]

that button should either have half the cd or heal like 3x as much

[frosty karma]

that it doesnt reset wehn you reset a boss

[clever belfry]

yea

[frosty karma]

love that

[sullen dove]

the mr worldwide cutscene was so fuckin good too

[sullen basin]

oh yeah 3m cd for only 20% health... Enraged Regen is 2m and does like 10x more than that

[sullen dove]

fuck ER

impending victory

40% heal 30s cd

resets on mob kills

[clever belfry]

bro i fully redid my arms talent the other day

and forgor to take IV

and i DIED

[frosty karma]

25sec cd even but sssh

[sullen basin]

how about they give us rogue's sprint

with a longer duration and shorter cd

give us plainsrunning from old taurens and call it walking mountain or something then its fine and definitely warrior like

[wispy dock]

Bro 2x leap on 20-25s CD woukd be lit

[sullen basin]

yeah but keep bounding stride

[wispy dock]

Of course

Would be so OP in pvp tho so they wouldn’t do it

[sullen basin]

dont care

just make it not work in pvp

ez

or like reduce the max range of the leap in pvp

[wispy dock]

Sounds good to me

[sullen basin]

they can do that they have the tech

[wispy dock]

I’m still waiting for chain blink off the gcd with 0 CD 🤣

Be fast AF boi?

[sullen basin]

mages arent real

[wispy dock]

They aren’t people

[sullen basin]

they're a psy-op to make warriors scared

[wispy dock]

Real casters are warlocks

[sullen basin]

we dont have double or triple leap because of mages

they need to be able to hard counter us

[wispy dock]

They scared of the big angry guy

[sullen basin]

casters should be scared of the big angry guy

just let us take less magic damage the more rage we currently have or something so we can use daggers and be untouchable 99% uptime ez

[wispy dock]

We be like the Incredible Hulk

The angrier and redder we get the more damage we do

[sullen basin]

just give us a new stance called like magebreaker or something please take 50% less magical damage and reduce effectiveness of CC on us by 5000% and do 30% less damage idc

where's our juggernaut stance where we can only move forward and turn, and get faster as long as we dont stop

[oblique trail]

!!!!!!!!!

[fluid cedar]

fury rework soon ™️ ?

[sullen dove]

in midnight maybe

[rotund steppe]

fury warrior deleted

commander warrior

aug 2.0

[sullen basin]

in 14.3

[sullen basin]

sounds more like an arms thing because fury is the berserker guy and arms is just the "i have a sword hehe" guy

[fast mural]

arms is about big calculated hits fury is just unga buznga

[sullen basin]

exactly

fury is the berserker guy 🙂

arms is just the "hehe sword" guy

[fast mural]

they said no more support specs so we are save

[sullen basin]

for now yeah

[meager void]

I play fury like a warrior poet

Quoting Nitzche while zuggin

God is dead and so are you

[sullen basin]

I play fury like someone who just started playing in Shadowlands and doesn't have a high skill level

[rotund steppe]

delete aug

[heady saffron]

i just 123232323232323

[tepid lily]

hello, should i use my spark for anything useful?

[rotund steppe]

nope

just wait

[meager void]

Balancing monkeys are full at work

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-19404599

5 days ago, we were all gonna craft sporecloak

[desert cloud]

pepos is 450 ring without gem > 447 with gem ring ?

[deep burrow]

no

[desert cloud]

FUUUK

[deep burrow]

just sim

[covert blaze]

no

[fickle bluff]

a ring is ~12 ilvl iirc

[gaunt flare]

so jus to confirm, SMF is still pretty much trash even this patch right?

[deep burrow]

ye i'd say socket is like 10 ilvl on ring

[covert blaze]

more stats more gooderer usually

[gaunt flare]

i just want to dual weild my thunderfury's in raid T_T

[covert blaze]

yes

[gaunt flare]

damn

[wind furnace]

What are you boys using for M+ and raid talents?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead talents

[noble elm]

Sometimes, I like to run m+ as smf just to relish in the reactions

[fickle bluff]

do you indulge in a plate of unseasoned rice and chicken while doing so

[noble elm]

Plain oatmeal made with water, and boiled chicken

[left perch]

ban circumvention detected

[wind furnace]

Using the Annihilator build?

[fickle bluff]

no

[wind furnace]

Cold steel then? lmao

[fickle bluff]

if you have t30, yes

youll only switch to annihilator when you actually get the new tier set

[covert blaze]

Awfully familiar name

[quick rain]

Whats best rune for fury now?

[noble elm]

It’s gonna depend on your stats

[livid lake]

Sim it

[meager gyro]

have peeps actually seen a higher ilvl drogbar trinket yet?

[livid lake]

[quick rain]

Im at 35 haste, 57 mastery, 15 crit and 12 vers

[heavy solstice]

how is fury looking for M+ next season, from just a pure damage perspective? hard to find solid info on that since most breakdowns just focus on the lack of utility... been playing ret mostly this expac, but feeling like a change lol

[gusty compass]

dmg wise its good.

[quick rain]

1. im in this discord for the help, not for people to tell me to go somewhere else and find my own answers. I dont know how to sim or understand half the websites.

[fading bane]

then you should find out how to sim, as its the best tool for gear

[gusty compass]

Numbers wise warriors overall are doing good numbers on m+. You can watch Critcake going it through on his vids! The playstyle is boring as hell but that's something different.

[fading bane]

there are like a million yt vids on it

[clever belfry]

You will never improve if you don't figure out anything yourself, sorry

[covert blaze]

so you want people to sim your character for you?

that's not gonna fly

[clever belfry]

Thats against raidbots tos technically

[covert blaze]

if you ask how you can sim something we will tell you

[clever belfry]

:)

[rotund steppe]

is it? .-.

[eternal sundial]

its also literally in skyhold rules

[covert blaze]

the implication of account sharing premium probably

[rotund steppe]

ohhhh

makes sense

[clever belfry]

Yeah no ones gonna enforce if u sjm your friends char, but like dont do it in a public space

[quick rain]

I didnt ask anyone to sim. i asked what runes were best/people using,

[eternal sundial]

I use mastery runes

they sim the best for me

[rotund steppe]

i use haste

[livid lake]

Learning to sim is really really useful. It not very difficult, it can really help you figure out your stats, enchants, bis gear, ect. There are a couple videos on youtube that explain it really well, I'd recommend checking them out, they can be really helpful.

[covert blaze]

and you need to sim yourself to know the right answer, that's the entire point

[fading bane]

mastery is by far best fury stat

[gusty compass]

What did you guys craft first? Thinking of doing the wrists with Shadowflame.

[fading bane]

so mastery runes

[gusty compass]

My boots got it right now

[livid lake]

I use 1 mast 1 haste with crit phial cause that is what the sims say

[rotund steppe]

depending on you stats and gear the sim tells you differently

[clever belfry]

having to use mixed runes 💀

[covert blaze]

and you asked for best rune, not what people are using

[silent burrow]

Bro ain’t no way

[livid lake]

I know

It was like that last time I checked, but I haven't really looked at my fury sims for like 2 months.

[rotund steppe]

i should check mine

[heady saffron]

idek what runes are lol

is this a 10.1 thing?

[rotund steppe]

i have no idea when they appeared lmao

[covert blaze]

10.0

[livid lake]

Shadowcore oil

[paper ivy]

guys what would u recommend for Leg emblieshment 463 craft

shadowflame?

[livid lake]

I wouldnt craft legs in case you get leg tier. but if you have to I guess shadowflame

[keen stone]

whats the meta crat rn

[livid lake]

Allied wrists and shadowflame on lowest I suppose

My shadowflame is on my belt

[paper ivy]

what would u craft?

[rotund steppe]

nothing

my man u stacked

[livid lake]

Realistically you can wait, but I guess you could do shadowflame belt. Id just sim it

Using Gear Compare

[covert blaze]

@paper ivy you should just wait in case more balance happens

[livid lake]

I got trolled by superbloom and got a 1 hand cause I was accidentally on fury loot spec 😦

Otherwise Id be 448

[keen stone]

superbloom gave me 3 cloaks

zzzzz

[rotund steppe]

im using nothing it gives me

unless its a weapon

[livid lake]

I just hope I get a fury weap quick from M+

[keen stone]

still no deets on leggo right

[rotund steppe]

nope

now that i think

is it gonna be unlocked day 1 or its gonna be like last season that we have to wait to the rwf

[keen stone]

im assuming wait to rwf, but they also said it was gonna be easier to obtain than previous tier iirc

[rotund steppe]

yeah theres the stacking buff to get it this time

[oblique trail]

It's the runes you apply to your weapon, like buzzing, hissing and howling rune

[keen stone]

so im expecting more of a quest liek you did with shadowmourne/FoOF/Taregoas's Rest

[oblique trail]

they give you crit, mastery and haste respectively

[heady saffron]

ahhh

[iron portal]

Ah bane

[strange pivot]

best way to farm flightstones?

[burnt stone]

[lunar sierra]

guys about new trinkets, which would be bis for fury

[eternal sundial]

droptimizer is supported for new tier

[elder epoch]

check bloodmallet/wowhead guide

[night stone]

Is fury really as bad as its rated in tier lists or are the tier list ratings just based on the fact we’re shit for the s2 new affixes and dps is fine?

[rotund steppe]

1. yes z tier

2. what new affixes

oh nvm

[upbeat plume]

what tier list are we even talking about

[rotund steppe]

the incorporeal and shit

[upbeat plume]

most of those are fucking garbage

[rotund steppe]

3. tier lists are garbo

[covert blaze]

don't look at tier lists

[upbeat plume]

90% of the tier lists floating around are just some dude with his feelycraft opinion lol

[frozen berry]

Has anyone calculated what % a upgrade our teir set is for us? Like how important it is for us to get our 2/4set?

[rotund steppe]

or max farming content lmao

[frosty karma]

i wonder if fury is trolling on tindral mythic since removing or killing the roots early spawns another add that pulses raid wide damage, so the entire niche of fury's giga OF burst is kinda useless there

dunno though, didnt do testing

but i guess you cant just blast your CDs into the roots

[rotund steppe]

just kill the adds

[night stone]

Yeah i figured, especially since i rarely push above mby a +22 with my friends lol tier lists dont matter at all

[rotund steppe]

[upbeat plume]

theres also that mechanic on one of the bosses not sure if it was that one where your supposed to aoe the roots and if you remove them through a cleanse (like avatar) it spawns an add

[rotund steppe]

man i wish i had friends

[frozen berry]

Lot more aoe this raid teir so we should be better?

[frosty karma]

20x 25k fire dmg per second on the raid after unloading on the roots lets go

[rotund steppe]

ye but we are not that aoe focused anymore

[upbeat plume]

our burst aoe is still fairly solid we just dont get it as often

[frosty karma]

i just went through all bosses, and the only one that did that was tindral afaik

[frozen berry]

Oh wow..Maximum just did a 2 1/2 hr teir list today lol

[rotund steppe]

i wanna see lmao

[upbeat plume]

yeah if I recall killing them early is fine with damage, but if we use avatar or odyns during a huge aoe moment we spawn the add lol

cause it happens with any type of cleanse

[frosty karma]

yea

[olive wraith]

Warriors suck give buff

[rotund steppe]

tu

tru

[fading bane]

you mean the tier list that he had 0 input on, and brought in people for each class with no real context of the rest of the tier list

[rotund steppe]

anyone got a link?

[olive wraith]

Give fury inspiring presence. Auto attacks have a chance to double strike

Let us intervene afflicted

[rotund steppe]

give fury lust

[wary fjord]

[vernal night]

^^^^

[upbeat plume]

oh boy thats my que to leave chat lol

[wary fjord]

give fury a pet, we a pet spec now

[covert blaze]

people will not sandbag their class, surely

[olive wraith]

Give fury a third 2h weapon

[rotund steppe]

4th

give us 4 arms

[fading bane]

this is the real spec ranking

[wary fjord]

remove the GCD on fury

you do as much dps as you can mash

[olive wraith]

Funny enough that wouldn’t be that good with this tier set

[wary fjord]

remove cooldowns

there

[fast mural]

typical warrior being middle of the pack

[olive wraith]

Gratz you just reverted the bt cd change

[wary fjord]

i mean all cooldowns

[rotund steppe]

we never top

[wary fjord]

[covert blaze]

better than being ww and being always bad

[wary fjord]

odyns fury no cooldown

just spam

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure we’d still spam bb-bb-bt

Then of

[fading bane]

20k dps gain from legendary

[olive wraith]

Oh I guess you’d have to ramp in there

[wary fjord]

aoe with no cooldown odyns fury tho

[rotund steppe]

200K fify

[olive wraith]

If we had no cooldowns I’m pretty sure ravager would win

[rotund steppe]

even then we would be below outlaw lmao

[olive wraith]

I’m okay with being mid

[wary fjord]

oh god, i couldnt imagine the lag having that many ravagers out at once

have multiple fury warriors in a raid

[rotund steppe]

i wanna be top at least for 3 weeks

[wary fjord]

i want the legendary to just be good

surely they cant mess it up right

[olive wraith]

Reroll feral

[fast mural]

member prepatch SL

[fast mural]

or prepatch DF rather

[wary fjord]

thats only on resto druid

[olive wraith]

Caught me

Feral still looking good though

[wary fjord]

ye

the moment when the intern accidentally applied that as a druid aura instead of a resto aura

and feral just murders the game

[frozen berry]

Oh ya, will the bloodthirst teir WA from T30 still work with T31 or do we need to get a new one?

[fading bane]

the t30 wa has nothing to do with t31

[olive wraith]

It becomes pointless

[fading bane]

so it wont do anytthing

[wary fjord]

pretty sure that WA tracks stacks of the T30 buff, so it wont work

[frozen berry]

Oh, I saw peeps still using it on the ptr...

[olive wraith]

T30 tracks bt crit chance

[fading bane]

there is like nothing you need to track about t31

you play the same

[olive wraith]

Only thing you care about is not using tier stacks on bt if you can avoid it

[fading bane]

tier stacks only work on BT?

huh

[olive wraith]

Bb

[fading bane]

oh like that

ye

[radiant egret]

one question, rn we have the catalyst to convert gear to T30 set, once new phase launches next week we no longer can convert to T30 right?

[fading bane]

correct

[radiant egret]

so we should spend the conversions we have left

copy

[fading bane]

yes spend them all

if u want the tmog aswell

cant get cloak tmog from raid

gotta catalyst

[left perch]

Deja vu

am I high or

[left perch]

that’s not correct

you can infinitely convert t29 and t30 pieces right now today

[covert blaze]

if you have s2 items you can still convert them, no?

and for free

[left perch]

Yea

[fading bane]

🤷‍♂️ just send them now anyway

[left perch]

There’s nothing to spend they took them away

no currency required

T31 has a new charge type tho

[hard widget]

Quick question. Do we get enraged before using odyns, or does the effect from titanic rage enrage us before the damage comes out?

[modest condor]

titanic rage enrages before the damage

[hard widget]

Thanks!

[torn wind]

is raidbots APL already updated or?

[modest condor]

for st yes

[torn wind]

ty

[surreal blaze]

I don't see any pins on it. Do we break 4 set for 2x 2-set or wait for 4 set?

[left perch]

break for 2-2 likely

and switch to new talents

[rotund steppe]

i wonder if they would make a T32 for the fated season

[flat river]

what happens in fated btw

do we get all tier sets?

[snow edge]

🔮

[rotund steppe]

i hope not

[flat river]

yes understand

[rotund steppe]

i like changing the playstyle

[flat river]

then what

[frozen berry]

They'll prob just make it so we can upgrade the ilvl of newest teir set right?

[flat river]

fuck

[rotund steppe]

thats the lazy and most probable answer

[snow edge]

They gave some very preliminary info in an interview, but nothing since

Basically all they’ve confirmed is fated will happen, and dinars will happen again

[rotund steppe]

pog for dinars

[snow edge]

Ye don’t mind dinars

[frozen berry]

we gonna be dw'ing fyrak axe + Nel sword? lol

[rotund steppe]

prob lmao

with whispering icon and the cata signet as trinks

[cedar geyser]

do most people use titania's fury warrior

[fading bane]

i cant even remember how they did tier in last fated

[rotund steppe]

i pick one of those and only pick what i need

[frozen berry]

Do you mean Titan's Grip?

[cedar geyser]

sorry, missed a word

titania's fury warrior WA

[frozen berry]

lol np, yes, esp in this teir with us getting a legendary 2hander

[spare otter]

just came back to the game, we dont press raging blow now?

[frozen berry]

oh derp me, disregard

[upbeat plume]

once you get the 10.2 set no its the anni build, which has seen some relatively major rotational changes

[spare otter]

I see, so what is the filler then? Just looks like there'll be gaps in rotation where you got nothing to press

since slam is 9 secs

[upbeat plume]

not really no, they reduced the cd of slam and its further reduced by haste

there are very rare gaps if you dont do the rotation right but there not super often after they did some tuning to the rotation

[spare otter]

Okay that doesnt sound bad

just really strange not pressing raging blow since i last played fury in shadowlands

[young swan]

i think most people use luxthos or just sub to their fav WF streamer

[upbeat plume]

check the pins for the solution lol archie made a joke about it

[dawn pivot]

so we dont use ravager anymore?

[spare otter]

yea i saw lol

i was so confused haha

[red burrow]

How does the tierset change gameplay for a guy who hasn't played since it launched? Do we just spam bt now?

[rotund steppe]

[young swan]

pretty much just BT + ramp

[upbeat plume]

Im over ravager its been nearly 2 tiers lol

[young swan]

fill with slam + ww + exe as needed

[upbeat plume]

Im fine with them pushing us into a new setup at least for a tier

and a half (counting fated)

[red burrow]

Sounds like a decent rotation. Do we need to worry about timings on anything?

[upbeat plume]

on your big cd windows you space our odyns+avatar so you dont lose time on the dot or dancing blades in ST

[young swan]

u dont care about DB as much as you care about ava dropping now

[upbeat plume]

aah okay my info is old

on that lol

[red burrow]

What is dancing blades?

[upbeat plume]

its one of the choice nodes that modifies odyns fury

[red burrow]

Oh. The auto attack mod

[upbeat plume]

yeah since were anni its pretty strong for ST

with the 10.2 set

[red burrow]

Wow. We're using that now? I never would have guessed that would ever end up meta at the beginning of expansion..

[upbeat plume]

its changed alot from the beginning

[frosty karma]

they are making us play it

[red burrow]

That's fine with me. I always thought it looked fun anyways.

[upbeat plume]

its not as degenerate as it was in the beginning of the xpac with RA so its more or less fine now

[gilded pawn]

there will be no caps if you play correctly

you will have 1 empty gcd every 5 minutes

[upbeat plume]

ah is it down to zero with correct play now?

[gilded pawn]

yeah sims has 0.8 seconds of downtime

which is 1 gcd

[upbeat plume]

I havent been keeping up with the chatter as much in the past couple weeks

nice

[woven heath]

That's good to know.

[gilded pawn]

in a real fight you have mechs to do

means you have time to let your spells go off cd

so its even less

[red burrow]

Sounds like I can easily jump right back on and do alright. Only prob is getting the tierset. Not looking forward to that grind.

[upbeat plume]

nah its super easy now

[flat river]

excuse me? we're playing warrior, only zug zug.

[upbeat plume]

all of our power comes from the 2 set nearly anyway

[woven heath]

Will be functionally 0 then. If you don't have to spend 1s on a raid mechanic over 5m I'll be shocked.

[upbeat plume]

so you can have it in the first week

[red burrow]

Well cool. Thanks for all the info.

[woven heath]

So, what are people planning for their sparks?

[upbeat plume]

weapons arent as valuable this go around as the crafted gears ilevel cant go above raid gear after a certain point

so probably just the suggested embelishment pieces

for me at least lol

[untold geode]

for someone who come back to wow with this patch, if i understand, you dont need to do raid to have your set now ?

[gilded pawn]

you never had to

it just takes longer if you dont raid

[woven heath]

There's a new alternative to getting tier gear outside of the raid.

Every 2 weeks you can convert 1 piece of gear into it's tier set equivalent.

[gilded pawn]

its 2 weeks now?

it was one week last tier

[untold geode]

oh that really really cool, and the piece your convert is equivalent to a piece from normal mode ?

[frosty karma]

yea but they gave us one charge for raid opening

[sand nacelle]

yeah

[woven heath]

Correct. The first charge comes in on Tuesday (Wed in EU).

[sand nacelle]

I'm almost sure I saw tier pieces in M+ vault, but not completely sure. Is it possible to get tier pieces in M+ vault?

[gilded pawn]

they ilevel stays the same

[gilded pawn]

yes

[sand nacelle]

pog, as the kids say

[woven heath]

That includes the M+ row.

[untold geode]

ok ok thanks !

[sand nacelle]

what do you mean?

[woven heath]

Gear from the vault earned from doing m+ may be tier gear.

[sand nacelle]

Yeah, you can upgrade it, but I was asking if it can be directly a tier piece, without the upgrade

[gilded pawn]

yes

[woven heath]

Do be more specific, no conversation is needed. It starts as Tier.

[wicked shuttle]

Evening lads quit wow after most thinking about relapse in wow

What's a good starter guide for fury

[covert void]

roll havoc

[wicked shuttle]

Is that a talent tree sorry been away for a while

[covert blaze]

wowhead

[wicked shuttle]

Is icyveins still around?

[rotund steppe]

is a bit sad we cant really say uninstalll anymore

[covert void]

wowhead 10.2 fury guide has a build for t30 and t31 sets.

[rotund steppe]

the game is decent

[nocturne oyster]

Do we have a guide for if you don't have t30?

[wicked shuttle]

T30 fucking hell

[nocturne oyster]

Like, if you're brand new, and just trying to catch up with a new alt or smth

[wicked shuttle]

I was full hero in SoO

Don't know what number that was

[hard widget]

Quick execute phase question, i assume execute sims over bloodthirst but under bloodbath yes?

(with ashen)

[modest condor]

yes

[hard widget]

❤️

[untold geode]

your weekly chest wednesday (or tuesday if you are a feet fetish), will be count as season 2 ? or blizz give us a gift and count for season 3 ?

[eternal sundial]

since you didnt complete any season 3 m+ nor kill any new raid bosses

i dont see how itll ever give you s3 items

[rotund steppe]

whats the best covenant for fury warrior?

[eternal sundial]

all around kyrian

[glad coyote]

depends are you raiding or m+?

[eternal sundial]

raid you can argue for nf

necro/venth if ur cringe and dont pad

venthyr is really good on halondrus specifically though so yea

[rotund steppe]

guys what do i start with i cant decide

[eternal sundial]

factorio vid

[modest condor]

you should probably start with clicking on #off-topic

[wanton mirage]

can anyone with enough knowledge confirm me that which key the key lady will give me if I don't do any key this week? my highest key done in the past was timed 25.

[eternal sundial]

do you know micheal hendricks cuz hes a goated factorio rabbithole

[glad coyote]

what key do you have

[eternal sundial]

not high enough to not just play videogam

[modest condor]

whatever key you would have gotten normally -11

[glad coyote]

not true

[modest condor]

highest key done in the past doesnt say much

[glad coyote]

you'll get -11, but by not doing a key it drops by 1, so -12 from waht you have

[modest condor]

if "the past" was last week or "the past" was 3 months ago has a completely different result

[glad coyote]

yes

[tardy lark]

thats like current and current

[wanton mirage]

let me check what key I have now

[dapper goblet]

cant go wrong with outdoor boys

[wanton mirage]

24 key now

[balmy shore]

you’ll get a 13

[glad coyote]

so time that and you'll get a 12

[balmy shore]

oh yeah

if you time it

[glad coyote]

dont do a key and drop it by 12

[modest condor]

if you time it you get a 13, if you dont you get a 12

[glad coyote]

time gets a 12, dont do anything you'll get a 11

[modest condor]

isnt it -11

[glad coyote]

yes

but

if you dont do anything its still -11, plus -1

so -12

[modest condor]

yes so if you dont do anything it becomes a 12

[rocky leaf]

for fury single target, do you guys try to get 5 stacks of slaughtering strikes before using rampage, or just using rampage on CD regardless?

[glad coyote]

sorry he has a 24 or 25

[modest condor]

ignore slaughtering strikes

he has a 24

[wanton mirage]

i got 24 because I had timed a 25 before

[rocky leaf]

so just rampage on cd regardless

[glad coyote]

my b

[fading bane]

i finished Dark Souls 3 do i seed farm nopw

[modest condor]

yes

[tardy lark]

no real point

[modest condor]

become a farmer

[glad coyote]

seed farm is meh

[fading bane]

fuck them seeds

[modest condor]

dont forget to equip the farmer title

[marble swift]

if i do a key this week, do i get a keystone from the vault at equivalent level?

[fading bane]

is 2 shotting Gael normally?

[modest condor]

2shotting gajeel?

[tardy lark]

[fading bane]

Slave Knight Gael

rolled and smoked

[eternal sundial]

if u dont turbo giga omega farm

then 2 pulls is sick

[wanton mirage]

thanks for helping with math guys, I knew I could count on u guys 🙂

[fading bane]

im level 115

[eternal sundial]

i cant count beyond 5

[fading bane]

Frieda took me 13

the most of any boss

[eternal sundial]

whack boss

tbf

[fading bane]

i thought it was sick

[rocky leaf]

what about blood thirst? any benefit in using it?

[left perch]

Phil I compliment your UI today

egar concurred

[eternal sundial]

thanks

[fallow stratus]

So how's warrior looking everyone? I'm intrigued lol

[tardy lark]

somewhere middle of the pack for both specs seemingly

[fallow stratus]

So average? lol

[glad coyote]

im preparing for a buff at some point early on

[fallow stratus]

Not the worst place to be

Legendary won't be enough to give us a kick up a tier?

[glad coyote]

we havnt been touched at all

[shell jackal]

alright gamers

[glad coyote]

no idea what the lego effect is

[shell jackal]

what're some of your guys' goals for day 1 of the patch?

full normal clear, +19 timed, maybe first 3 HC is mine

[glad coyote]

day 1 of patch was this week

[tardy lark]

day 1 of the patch was almost a week ago

[shell jackal]

i mean day 1 of the content lads

the raid, the new m+ season, the pvp season

[tardy lark]

plenty of seed content

[glad coyote]

new content is already out

[shell jackal]

seeds

ok so ur not hearing me

next wednesday

[glad coyote]

wednesday?

you mean tuesday

[shell jackal]

i'm in europe

ok mfer listen

[tardy lark]

everywhere is murica

[shell jackal]

hahahahah no please

[glad coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/viralhog-gun-fire-murica-flag-america-gif-12183553

[shell jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[glad coyote]

say start of s3

thats what you wanna say

[modest condor]

log in and have fun

[tardy lark]

everybody understood what he meant

[shell jackal]

thank you mr aagaard

[glad coyote]

at least time all 15's

[shell jackal]

anyway ye, my hope is a full normal clear, first 3 bosses on HC down for vault, and a 19 key cleared (timed or otherwise) for vault

[glad coyote]

and push 17's and 18's

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[shell jackal]

goddamn that's big

[clever path]

I'm so sad that they haven't fixed aug. I was so sure that they would fix it for s3 and that they just let be op, so it doesn't end the season early

[shell jackal]

yeah i cant wait to press slam in m+

[fallow stratus]

I'm deciding between warrior and dh for my melee, dh is obviously nuts, but warrior is more fun

[untold geode]

im planing to be onyour bag so you carry me, thanks

[sinful spoke]

i wanna have fun and enjoy the game

:feelsgood

[modest condor]

you want to do a 19 on the first day?

[tardy lark]

fun is the bigger factor unless you find enjoyment in playing whats good

[modest condor]

i wish you good luck with that one sir

[glad coyote]

why not

[shell jackal]

we're wheelchair in s3 so i'm not carrying anything

[shell jackal]

yeah i have some gigablaster friends that wanna run it

[clever path]

I only did a 21, so I start at 10 and learn the dungeons first

[glad coyote]

i run with 2 premades, 1 during day between work meetings and 2nd at night

[tardy lark]

arent they just tuned as 23s or did guildie scam me

[trail bane]

aiming to clear 3 hc but also a 19 on the first day

[modest condor]

yeah there's no way you're gonna time a 19 day 1

[glad coyote]

sure

people will time 20's day 1

[clever path]

No

[untold geode]

aiming to find a +5 (let the noobs dreams)

[modest condor]

people may

he wont

[shell jackal]

damn

no faith

[modest condor]

maybe some 4k+ season 2 score andies may be able to

[clever path]

Bro, this season we have some of the hardest dungeons

[modest condor]

remember ilvl goes up by 39

you're effectively going in with nothing

[clever path]

Just tyrannical as an affix will gear gate people for dawn of the infinites

[shell jackal]

we have some of the best dungeons from legion. i'm hyped.

[tardy lark]

silm, the man prolly has a family damn

[modest condor]

im not calling him bad

im telling him he's severely underestimating the difficulty of +19 on day 1

[fallow stratus]

@tardy lark I very much am a meter slave lol, but I try not to be.

[shell jackal]

no i see their point, dw, no offense taken ❤️

[tardy lark]

if hes looking at people doing ptr keys and pugging 28s with relative ease, hes doomed

[tardy lark]

then you'll most likely find more fun in dh

[rotund steppe]

im prob going for a 18+ and a full normal clear

stilll rcoering from covid

for the 3rd time

[shell jackal]

^

same

[modest condor]

yeah if you could actually do +28s with ilvl 440 then we would be farming +37s by the end of the season

[shell jackal]

bro i had it for the second time recently

[clever path]

Did blizzard make M+ so easy?

[shell jackal]

shit is awful

[untold geode]

u are just too good

[tardy lark]

on ptr people were doing Atal 28 fairly easily i think

[rotund steppe]

on ptr people were doing some impressive stuff at 450

[tardy lark]

which is not gonna be the case on live

[clever path]

Let's see. Maybe blizz just buffed the shit out of it

I hope they don't make season 3 like season 2

[tardy lark]

Pretty sure they rolled the dungeons out with S2 scaling factor on them

on PTR that is

[fallow stratus]

@tardy lark That makes me sad 😦

[tardy lark]

i mean try out both

[clever path]

Maybe they should raise kshero to 3k

[tardy lark]

might find the fun of warrior worth more than the fun of doing big dig dps on dh

[glad coyote]

didnt DH just get nerf?

their tier set?

[frank dawn]

PTR was def using S2 scaling numbers.

They are reducing key levels by 11 for a reason

[tardy lark]

Yup

[clever path]

I thought they just reduce it so much for the ilvl jump

But gear is so easy to get anyway

[frank dawn]

Well yeah. Scaling, ilvl jump. All the same really

[keen dove]

Whats the best opener for single target with the annihilator build? Should we reck-of-rampage-roar- avatar or is it like reck-avatar-rampage-roar-of?

[untold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/indeztv-indez-faceroll-indez-faceroll-keyboard-roll-gif-21390062

[heady saffron]

cant wait to get a bunch of gear and my lfr legendary axe so i can go do m+2-4's to flex on the lesser classes

[left perch]

Are we twins

[heady saffron]

[left perch]

also damn, haven’t watched that show in like 30 years dawg what a reference

[heady saffron]

think they got a new movie recently that i havent gotten around to watching yet

[left perch]

Oh man I should check it out too

[burnt stone]

[clever path]

Do you think aug will ruin the season again, or is blizz gonna fix it last minute

[final birch]

🤨

[clever path]

Well apparently it's still OP

[snow edge]

They’re not going to redesign the fundamentals of a spec a few days before season start

[final birch]

It is, and will be op.

[clever path]

I mean the season wasn't actually ruined, it just didn't make sense to try to get very high rio

[final birch]

The season was ruined for any key pusher

That pushed it pre aug

[burnt stone]

Hmm, won’t you reduce slam’s cooldown a little more?
Even if Rage is 80, if BT is available, the rotation of having to cast BT is not fun.

[sand nacelle]

why?

[clever path]

Well I mean it was not ruined for people, who didn't go for 0.1% and just had set goals like 3k or ksh, or all 20ies

[final birch]

I disagree

Some people have only so much time and wanted to say, get 3k or even +20’s

Aug and shit that came with it made it impossible to get invited to keys that get you rio if youre off meta

And that started in +20 - hell, at the start even in +17 people were begging for certain specs to come

[clever path]

Remember when people complained at the start of season 2 before 10.1.5 about shadow priest 😂

[final birch]

It was a valid complain

[clever path]

And then aug + mage rework came out

[left perch]

Computer: define “ruin the season”

[worn rain]

he's right

before aug introduction it was easiest time to get into key since legion I think

after

god help you if you don't play some of exodia pieces

[left perch]

I am 10x better at warrior than I am at aug, BUT

I get 10x more invites vice versa

so with my current schedule, no point being brown man

[clever path]

The issue of rerolling is that you become less skilled

[summer quail]

if you're asking if aug is gonna be "required" for higher keys again, then yes probably

[hollow elk]

they are gona end up nerfing it more and buffing its own dmg to compensate. its gona end as a full blown dps with tons of utility. which is what people want for m+ anyways. aug is here to stay unless they literally remove their utility and bucher their dps

[left perch]

Yep. But if I have limited time to play do you think I want to wait 1 hour to be more skilled or to spend that hour gaining skill?

[summer quail]

it's actually hilarious how much aug has gotten nerfed and they are still insane

ebon might was 10% hahah

[fast mural]

kinda like holy pala

[worn rain]

i'm praying that they gonna treat it like gladiator

into the trash in next expansion

[olive wraith]

Mastery increases EM stats right?

[fast mural]

they said they dont want aug to be required for m+ groups so they likely are gonna nerf it real hard after rwf is over

[summer quail]

what do you mean? EM increases crit damage while inside the spear

[olive wraith]

Ebon might

[hollow elk]

xD i mean elissian might also em

[summer quail]

oh, abbreviations are only warrior for me

[modest condor]

you cant just come in here and use EM for something different than elysian might man

[olive wraith]

My b we were talking about aug

[snow edge]

Huge mistake

Hang this man

[frozen hawk]

Extreme Mistake

[upbeat plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[summer quail]

ebon might only increases mainstat so it doesn't increase mastery. i assume you are asking if the added damage that we get from it is increased by mastery, which it should? @olive wraith

[olive wraith]

I mean doesn’t mastery increase the main stat ebon might gives

[summer quail]

oh you mean their mastery

KEKW

idk lol, i'm not a lizard player

[olive wraith]

Release aug I think could grant up to like 13% stats or something

Unless I’m wrong

[jolly goblet]

I am horrific at this game btw dont clown too hard

Am I missing anything important here? Or does this look fine 💀

I do not use WeakAuras either

[rotund steppe]

thats some

[jolly goblet]

uh oh

[rotund steppe]

organization

[plush ice]

how do you set up a spear/roar maco that auto drops spear where you are at?

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Spear of Bastion] [@pulsar wing] Spear of Bastion; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

that dosn't seem to work

[jolly goblet]

you shoulda seen it earlier

think it would give you a heart attack

[summer quail]

pressing 7 seems super annoying

[rotund steppe]

yes

unless u bind 7 and 8 to the mouse buttons as i did

[rotund steppe]

i got dis

[burnt stone]

icon is too big lol

[rotund steppe]

i like em big

[burnt stone]

[jolly goblet]

think i might just swoop in and copy icl

cant take the clowning for my hotbar no longe/r

[left perch]

I know keybinds are subjective but wow I do not like these

[jolly goblet]

💀

[fast mural]

siegebreaker on 7 ?

how long are your fingers ?

[jolly goblet]

well

ya see

i dont use that 😎

[left perch]

That’s what she said

[rotund steppe]

wot

[jolly goblet]

im washed

[fast mural]

why spec it then ?

[rotund steppe]

u dont use it on cd?

[jolly goblet]

i dont really know what i am doing fellas

learning

slowly

[soft inlet]

Maybe I missed something earlier, but 7 seems to be his rek macro. Not siegebreaker.

[burnt stone]

How is my WA?

[soft inlet]

Oh, different person's ui, lmao

Also, that's onslaught now, ain't it?

[snow edge]

Just it change to BB icon after RA?

[rotund steppe]

tried this but i like to see my buttons

[snow edge]

I do prefer all buttons

[burnt stone]

Even without any modifications, when the RA buff is activated, the BT icon changes to BB.

When it was BB, only the glow function was added

[jolly goblet]

These still up to date ?

[young swan]

for this week yes

[snow edge]

Well till 2pc of t31 right? I assume they’re strings for t30 builds

[young swan]

correct

[snow edge]

[sinful spoke]

[burnt stone]

My main character is human with honor 6 and my alt character is honor 10. Will I be able to get honor 18 next week?
I did not use the reputation items given by subquests.

[left perch]

Hello Mr XantAuga

[sudden tusk]

hai

[clever path]

is our 10.1 tier bonus still active?

[summer quail]

yes

[snow edge]

Do you mean t30? If so, yes

[frozen hawk]

heck i'm still rocking T29

[main palm]

https://tenor.com/view/why-persian-room-cat-guardian-but-why-trendizisst-anyaboz-gif-2156104475561014590

[frozen hawk]

i skipped s2 on the warrior to dabble in some spriesting

c:

[left perch]

Key invite enjoyer detected

[frozen hawk]

truth

[rotund steppe]

at least it wasnt dh

or even worse

aug evoker

[frozen hawk]

i can't play voker because i like seeing my mog too much

[rotund steppe]

based

[unreal cape]

so i just saw the class balancing changes blizz did yesterday and warrior isnt even mentioned at all..

feels bad

[modest condor]

what kind of tuning do you think warrior needs?

we're average before legendary

and both specs have a niche that they're very good at

[covert blaze]

warrior is fine

[final birch]

35% aura buff

take it or leave it

[unreal cape]

avg dmg, no utlity

[modest condor]

true

ok but what does utility have to do with a balance patch?

[unreal cape]

idk im just sad warrior wasnt even mentioned in the recent balancing

[granite arrow]

I assume the idea is that since we have no utility, we should do above average damage, but ultimately I'm happy as long as fury is fun 😌 😌

[unreal cape]

there are other classes doing same or better dps with utility

[modest condor]

what you're asking for is a talent tree rework and that's not something they're just gonna drop out of nowhere half a week before the new raid

[unreal cape]

yea

[modest condor]

we will be above average once we have the legendary

and as i said both specs have a niche that they're very good at

[final birch]

that's stupid logic ngl

[modest condor]

i doubt any spec can compete with arms execute

[final birch]

trading utility for damage

ideally every spec would have different kind of utility that shines in different circumstances

[lunar summit]

We dont even know what the axe does

It mifht be a big utility

[covert blaze]

FF14 logic