#fury
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What’s convid
10.2 stuff is fun for a day.
Did you see the FFXIV fanfest where some furry got everyone sick THEN MADE A COMIC NARCING ON HIMSELF THAT HE HAD COVID AFTER
I spent 3 months pushing io last season for them to release augvoker while I was on vacation for a week, and for title cap to go up 100 points and the new meta comp going like 4 key levels higher
one of the funniest fucking things ive every seen
that shit was great
also furries r weird
I have been gearing up my alts the last few days
It’s pretty fast
Got 30
Ilvls in a few hours
i mean the real issue
is unless they actually turbo dunk aug
its gonna be meta for long enough that keys can be capped
if they dont nerf it before people are decently geared
exactly why I unsubbed
I saw that they werent changing it
and realized my time would be wasted
I mean, they’ve been nerfing it a lot
it will still be the meta m+ comp
There was one yesterday
Not an altoholic myself. But I also only talked about fun. Ofc you can do stuff for days!
na, I didn't get covid (though several people I know and was around did)
But you always get the crud after any kind of big gathering like a convention - it's just guaranteed
Yeah, that’s why I don’t go to large gatherings
They said they did not want it to be meta. and i believe they will get to that point. TBH i bet you aug receives actualy nerfs after RWF is over
they dont want to shotgun it too hard so close to the event
ima be honest i don't trust blizzard to know how to balance for shit
yeah just so many different bugs and whatever for your body to try to fight and process. happens every time
so i don't see it getting serious adjustments until next xpac
the crud is just a generic term for like... a thousand(+) people all being shoved into the same place, with all their unique bacteria and whatnot mingling - you're going to get sick, no matter what
hits some people more or less than others, but it pretty much always happens unless you super hermit and hide away from people
but I like to drink and make bad decisions so...... 😷
but who knows maybe they'll surprise me and absolutely gut it for m+. But the problem is i just simply question the judgment of anyoine who saw what that spec was, and thought adding it into the game when no one asked for it would be a good idea. Like it's not hard to even just guess the ramifications of adding a spec like that
on top of it being teared down a bit. i think the other issue is other specs/classes not being able to bring enough
As a warrior man its hard to justify myself in a key
we didnt even get M+ rally specific tuning as a compensation
when aug has rally at half the cd
which is ironic because the patch b4 augvoker came out, warrior was probably in its best state for m+, perhaps ever
i mean everything was
but i gotta bedge before i talk more about aug
otherwise i wont sleep enough
everything was great till 10.1.5 
Sure but Aug was absolutely obscene when it came to the difference
Compared to earlier examples between the top and bottom
give blizz time, they will nerf aug into the ground
S1 and pre 10.1.5 was pretty balanced.i was able to compete with our dk and watlocks in raid if i played good. And i was seeing most of the specs in the keys. After 10.1.5 i slowly lost my interest into m+ and and raiding.
Looking parses after kill was enjoyable before aug. Now i hate to look for if i get any aug buffs
I swear those scalies steal dps and parses
adding a support spec was never going to end well
it either needed to be strong enough that you NEEDED one or it would be DoA
Where is fury standing stat wise now, crit cought up or still mastery haste ish
So smth like mastery>haste=crit?
For some reason at my sims crit falls off after 25-30% but again idk if i can trust all the sims so early
I do believe haste would drop in value after 30 as well
I do believe feelycrafting would drop in value after 30 too
Time will tell it seems
Haste 34-35% , Crit 25-30% , mastery 60-62% then versatility. This is what my sims show
the problem is the 2p has 0 benefit when it comes to crit
Value wise. But it's probably best u can one of the simcrafters in disc
Yeah the 4p has the crit benefit
But you get 4p regardless wont you?
2p does not gain value from crit
ye so it kinda evens out
so it's kinda not too much of one stat due to deminishing returns it seems
yes at the end we will end up with some of all stats. we're already hitting drs on 2 stats in aberrus
find the haste sweet spot around 32-35% , then mastery 60-62% then crit 30% and then versa jumps on top on my sims atleast
For arms atleast right now im sitting on 50% crit and 40%haste
Love to be able to play both specs but stats still differ then it seems
But again lets see tbh i'd say just always keep following the sims
fury stats for arms is pretty decent
ye but mastery is pretty decent for arms
just coz a spec prefers certain stats doesn't necessarily mean the other stats are bad on them
Makes sense
depends greatly on your level of gear
and what you're running
Why’re we getting less value out of haste? Don’t we have extremely high uptime on bleed?
And our rage generation scales even better with haste now as well
Not saying it’s wrong, but where’s the big difference making it the case?
It does, which is why it's a bit silly to give a general statement of "30% of X stat is where it drops off"
generalities exist for a reason though
i am aware yes
it's not so much about getting less value out of haste per se, so much as getting more value out of other things as we get into higher and higher stat brackets
To specify what I mean - we’re gonna have proportionally more rage generation compared to rage spending because of auto attacks but especially now with Annihilator
Sorry if I sounded dismissive
yeah but if you're already casting Rampage every 2-3 GCDs anyway, that extra rage gen isn't really doing a whole lot
especially with wft youll barely ever notice it
it actually breakpoints, if you really wanna dive that deep into it
Yeah but couldn’t the haste potentially give breakpoints in terms of the occassional empty gcd?
simc try to not find random breakpoints people would never be able to abuse in gameplay challenge (impossible)
unless you missplay, not really
Eh I mean there are a ton of breakpoints for various things, but they tend to be mostly academic
just charge weave
this is the joke i made yes
But they're just irrelevant to players
not really, since haste affects most every rotational ability equally
one wrong button press and its just out the wjndow anyjow
which is to say that the GCD and ability cooldowns are compressed at the same rate
all haste would do is make that empty GCD shorter, but relatively speaking its still an empty GCD either way
I guess I’m misplaying with the new build then, because I feel like it’s not that rare to get the empty GCD
What Fury does is get a lot more bursty during cooldowns, and its leaning pretty hard into Mastery/Versatility
play around Bloodthirst, not Rampage
Yeah I am 😭
think what they mean is the proportionally larger extra rage from anni over the compression of gcd/cds maybe getting u a ramp where u wouldnt have one, allowing a nkn empty gcd
Yeah, as I said - theoretically maybe, but practically? eh
But if there’s one it could maybe mean you would be able to focus on BB>Ramp over BB>BT>Ramp in some cases
Time to download swing timer weakaura 
Annihilator is nice, but it's still only about 14% of your rage gen
Ya i agree, just wanted to put it out clear cause there was some speaking in circles again
Also drops off doesn't mean bad, it just means it's starting to fall a bit compared to other stats that probably aren't hitting DR already - it was already happening in Season 2, it just lasted a little longer (keep in mind the S2 set bonus)
I guess haste does also increase Hurricane uptime
although Mastery is just god stat, it's actually always been kinda over budget, cause it was never really tuned around having 90%+ enrage uptime
Didnt we always have that in df tho xd
We did, and like I said, it wasn't really tuned around it
We're using the same relative mastery scaling we did last expansion, just increased to DF values
except enrage uptime jumped dramatically from tier 1
(it should always be better than versa imo cause that has tangible defensive benefit)
Every spec design should aim for vers as their worst stat tbh
BiS profile atm is
- 21% crit
- 26% vers
- 27% haste
- 62% mastery
so when I say Mastery is way ahead
it's way ahead
Sheesh 26% vers
is that including the crit phial?
it hits several points
Pin those stats xD
what is the stat point breakdown on that?
it's all just a byproduct of reaching such high secondary stat inflation that we have... well a ton of stats to go around, so several of the weights start to merge together
Holy shit haste is booty
again, that's because that profile is going beyond the breakpoint (not by much though)
Mastery being above off hand dps is also meme
Is that entirely because of the lack of OH scaling on BT?
Oh what is it then?
I thought off hand dps didn’t contribute to the scaling of BT
OH DPS has always been low, like these are my current Season 2 weights
but OH and OH DPS are very different
the OH is still generally the second most important slot (beyond trinkets/tier/special effects) due to the high amount of stats
That still looks like we’re scaling off our OH dps way more than next tier :o
OH DPS isn't directly factored in abilities that don't have an OH component to its hit, but in most cases those two weapons are the same DPS anyway, so it's not really an important distinction
I guess that might change with the legendary, presuming it (should be) higher ilevel
I guess it becomes really important to put biggest ilvl in main hand now though
well it always has been
Considering the Evo lego was 457, I imagine it will be higher ilvl
simply because OH damage is halved
Ye but even more important
Would be a bit silly if the lego is equal ilvl to another normal weapon
I mean, sure "more important" but it was already extremely important so it's a meaningless difference lol
Saw someone in log review say that having highest ilvl in main hand was a common mistake - this was wrong then I take it
maybe back in like... WoD
it's 10 item level but has a 1% chance to kill the enemy every hit
but not since then, I wouldn't say it's extremely common
there was some confusion in previous expansions where we had distinct offhand attacks (like Enh Lava Lash), but it's some time since then
ye if we follow the same logic the leggo should be 496
Legit can’t wait to see the effect
Good morning everyone. It appears that our rotation has indeed shifted a little, but somehow, by reading the rotation on wowhead, I can't really picture the way I play Fury now. Is it "just spam bloodthirst, fill a slam every 9 or so, everything else on cd"?
Because we are running abandon now, we don't want to spam rampage anymore? How exactly does that work?
here we go, here's a fun little plot
pretty much have to do tight plots like this, any long term projections are basically a straight line of all four stats
so you can see crit looping around, and just starting to pick up some steam
Is it the same for MT?
while mastery is just up down, up down, up down
this is a very short projection though, so not really the best analysis (plus we don't have 500 extra stats to pick up anyway)
Also how do you make those plots? (Is there some documentation somewhere)
simc magic
pretty much the main thing to worry about in Season 3 is just grab ilevel though lol
Might of the ocean would give you the crit
yes but that's not gaining stats, that's trading one stat for another
which is an entirely different context (and main reason stat weights are less preferred than just simming gear outright these days)

Kinda both off but also in topic: do you think people are gonna spam Throne of Tides just like they did UNDR for the trinket?
Might is gonna be good for m+
It seems like it’s basically vial but better
Might is a pretty good MT trinket, but it's not really the best trinket from what I've seen
AtalDazar trinket sims really well on ST
is might better than mirror?
I'd definitely pick it up early if you can though, as it's one of the better ones from Mythic+ specifically
if you don't need the haste, yeah
both megadungeon trinkets also seem strong
No mirror sims higher on bloodmallet
But it’s a small diff iirc
as with most things, depends on your build and level of gearing
bloodmallet isn't really setup for MT right now either
And I prefer 1.5 min cd over 3 min
Ah okay didn’t know
i don't really like the multitarget on bloodmallet
Actually BM doesn't have the newest profiles yet anyway, it's still running old trinkets and embellishments; not that they're a huge difference
then again i personally don't sim multitarget at all
Me neither after Archim said it doesn’t work xd
Ye I mean isn’t entirely optimized for it
Hey Guys, could anyone tell me if we crit BT on 3/4 targets in aoe then the CD od OF is reduced by every crit or just one?
just once
would be so good if it were per target
Yeah it has a 500 ms internal cooldown iirc
do we know how the talent build is gonna look like with 2/4 set and before any set ?
Before any set, you keep the season 2 setup with am/os/ravager
after 2set, you go annihilator with the build in the pins/on wowhead
if you don't swap at 2p, you effectively don't have a 2p bonus
Thank You
I guess that’s true xd
Tier set should be given to sub rogue first anyway, so you can acquire 4 set straight away by the time you’re given a piece
I'm pretty sure that Outlaw is still higher both pre and post set
They seemingly get a 12% upgrade from last tier set
Donno if this is propaganda though
the sheet is accurate, but its not displayed in the best way imo

the sheet has our 4pc as 5.5%
but when i simmed it myself its 9%
and it was 7% at one point
hey guys, i was levelling and my main rotation rotates around my cd's and Blood thirst as "1" on my keybind and Raging Blow as "2" .. now i got Annihilator and it replaces raging blow. with what can i replace it ? with Slam?
ty ty
im bookmarking my sim that shows 4pc as 9% gain for next week
could i get less pixels
I legit can't read that
it's like, my eyes without glasses
Just download more resolution
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same ilvl and no new stat distribution
so a top gear with gems and enchnts is more accurate
cus stats shift with diff tier pieces
not that my guild is gonna be interested in distributing gear based on this
Ayo we’re actually biggest zenith upgrade
Nvm 5.41 is not bigger than 5.44
I imagine some guilds will also prio tier to their best players first
apparently everyone's gonna be outlaw anyway
Ye I mean they’re too broken not to play as a rogue right
sub has the highest gain
but idk if u play it
outlaw is pretty good and so is assa apparently
it might just be Assa ST and Outlaw on cleave
Assa has absolutely disgusting peaks rn
Outlaw being the highest st dps spec is still fever dream material
Assa is like nuts with Aug + PI i think
ez for me
I'm a trial rn so gl..
im a known idiot
F
Ive only ever been benched on one boss since BoD, and i dont plan on ending the streak
Outlaw is more uptime reliant though, so gonna come down to that as well
i dont care about tier iv'e claimed prio on legendary 
I've been benched once for prog and it was for Anduin prog
still don't know if that was a blessing or curse
Anduin was a good boss
I was benched on Mag kill
Superbia had like 180 pulls I think on him
but that was the last time I was benched since like bfa
It was kinda crazy though going from the highs of Halondrus
To being benched for 2 weeks on Andy
I was the only warrior in my guild in voti tho, and before that I was in shit guilds with roster boss and I was a pumper
according to progstats.io superbia also killed it before any major nerfs
I remember setting up the cursed Arms FoB build for Anduin
my soul when I saw I was benched
all my efforts..
is there actually a cap
some ways of getting crests dont count towards cap
so for raid opening you want to basically run the old build until 2p or 4p correct ? or is it worth running the new build straight away?
not until 2pc
thanks mate
was the evoker legendary personal loot
yes
yes
gg
I still dont have either the rasz or sark mount
I feel like Im one of the only CE players without atleast 1
I see pinned embellishments but no talents yet, we still going for the 2 button specc with current tuning?
talents are in guide
I got essence trinket 5 months after release and you complain about mounts?
@chrome plover
I was benched on Sark prog because I kept disconnecting
F
They got it to 3% one of the 3 pulls I was away
Luckily I was there on kill next week
we did a load of pulls on mythic neltharion as 19 ppl
We kinda did as well considering we had an uh dk dealing 65k dps on avg
Don’t know tbh
Deep rock galactic
it costs money
any fromsoftware game
Brawlhalla idk
if you got Xbox pass. Lies of P
I don't
Im looking at the free games on steam and they all look boring
meh im jujst gonna watch a movie before i go for my eye test
Gg
may i ask if slam got changed and worth using it? i saw the pin and that is why i ask
you slam with t31
oh ok so till i get 4pc t31 i use the old build i guess! i just wonder if it is worth to use 4pc or 2pc with replacing with higher ilvl pieces! sorry if it is asked again and didnt see it
Use new 2p with new build
and the new build is the one annihilator and odyn if i im right?
yes
ok thx
Hello fellow warriors
Embrace the weeb, play Genshin
Never
Coward

genshin is actually a good game for free

:woo:
Where can ifind the T31 rotation guide gor S3? On wowhead i obly can see T30 guide for S3.

once you get t31 youd switch to the other skills
like what
also did you scroll down
Doesnt matter what set i use cauze of rota?
There's two templates for each mplus and raids.
One for t30 and t31
Just look at the t30 for now till you get t31
And click in the skills that you're using on each of the rotations then the page will generate a rotation for ya
Anyone hear about the speculation that the wow anniversary buff won't apply to dream wardens Rep?
Is anyone planning to farm fyrrak tank trinket for m+? It Sims pretty good.. or there are better options?
it's worth to upgrade 463 weapons ?
i wouldnt bother upgrading rn, as u should be spamming m+ next reset anyways
keep it for whenever the first wave of upgrades is here and u can then choose what to upgrade better 
I’m not a weeb
But it is good
Dota was fun when I used to play
I played for 10 minutes, made my char then died on a beach and gave up
How is it relative to league
You kinda need a build to follow in poe, but the first time you go through campaign it’s pretty good
Dota is more punishing. Heroes have turn rates, you lose gold on death and height on map makes a difference
is it worth savin sparks for a 2h or would you go ahead and craft wrists?
Hmm sounds confusing
It kinda is. It’s a good game with a lot of depth, but very often the meta is kinda slow and falling behind can feel impossible to overcome
hahaha
I was bad enough at league
never made it out of bronze
poe is best game ever made perhaps
only played 2 games of dota and they both lasted 70+ minutes and i wanted to die
League is fast paced, so maybe the slower pace of dota will suit you. Who knows
Maybe
I think poe is good if you have 200 hours to sink into understanding wtf is going on if you start late
Playing that game without someone to answer your questions at hand is a horrible experience
This season d4 was pretty good
D2R also bangs still
I’m quite fond of terraria
Or you can find a ps3 emulator and play all the old games
Final fantasy series are cheap af on steam most times
I really wanted to play the new god of war game but I dont have a PS5
are there any gear upgrades to be had this week?
Nothing that lasts
you wont miss out at all
get your epics from emerald dream
that you can upgrade to 463, and thats it
It will be out on pc sooner or later
where do you get them from? rares?
You don’t need to craft anything right away
Superbloom
Weekly bag
superbloom quest and the quest for doing 5 seeds iirc
nice, ty guys
is it okay if i charge and then reck/avatar or vice versa ?
Ok, a question about whelp crests. I see some reputable warriors rocking 463 weap atm and I'm not sure why
is the math so that you wont really need whelps and should just upgrade the weapon to 463?
Im holding because you can turn whelps into drakes and I figure we will be starved for drakes for a bit
or am I wrong here?
Idk, my guildmaster said using drakes is fine and he knows better than i do so i spent them
@oblique trail hey do we know what the best race is iim consiideriing raceswapping my warrior
vulpera, of course
vulpera
furry furry is the way
np
Yeah, especially once you get into hc where wyrms drop
No reason to spend them either
463 weapon strong
Drake's will become obsolete very quickly
Yeah when all your gear is 463
That’s why you save so you can upgrade items that doesn’t drop on high item@level next week
I mean it will make you stronger at the start of the season
rat
ok, I'm sold. 463 weapon inc
vulpera
ohhh! iis it because of the defensiive benefiit?
Imagine paying to go furry. Just level one for free and enjoy more time behind the furr
ye the scurry racial passive gives you 100% dodge chance
Hey there. Haven't played since DF release. Is pvp conquest gear viable in pve? What's the max ilvl of conquest gear? Can I transform conquest gear into tier piece with catalyst and use it in pve? I've noticed that no one talks about pvp gear when it comes to gearing for pve. Thanks
@oblique trail ?
@left perch ?
they changed pvp gear in dragonflight so that it is quite low ilvl but gets a huge ilvl boost in any pvp content
so generally it isnt that useful in pve, I dont know the exact ilvls
Pretty sure it's like lfr ilvl or so in pve
but gets omega buffed in pvp
so yeah
kind of a good change imo, pvping to gear for pve was wack and pve'ers wearing op pve gear in pvp was also wack
shadowlands s1 moment

Well they had a question for you
and I answered
blindass

btw i got to 16 renown on main in the end and cba to grind
yeah it's like 408 base, 433 or something on max ilvl in s2
Dude I found a few more quests I missed and I’m stuck at like 9.1 now
did you slingshot?
I think I'm renown 8
Never played league but DOTA was really fun
and Im fairly sure I've done everything except the pvp quest
I’m 15 1/2
wdym slingshot
i got to 10 on my alt and then did everything on my main
and it got me to 15 1/2
But cant be arsed to do regular world quests on a contract to get 16
Yea I heard that was called sling shot or something
gaming
Thursday is anniversary, right? Can quite easily get to 20 then
i guess you could call it that yeah
+19% rep
thanks
I think in s2 the pve ilvl was like 405 at best, and when you did arena it was 450.
You could upgrade it to like 430/450 if you climbed the arena ladder tho so it was semi useful
grow with the fur. Embrace it.
You get it
What is best additional proc on items? Speed, leech, avoidance?
Save drake crest this week ?
avoidance
for the hardest (uwu) content
does the shadowflame embellishment to cloak (or wrists) count as 2 (both) embellishments?
like get the cloak and thats all you can equip if you are running it
if you got 2x shadowflame
why would it count as two?
its 2x embelliushment
dont know what ur asking tho lol
1=1
2=2
can confirm
2+2=5
thx
im sassy cuz servers down, sowy
oh shit NA is up soon
but not really
cus 10 hour maintenance
wait what
its not tuesday, im trippin
should be a short one

but you know blizz...
EU servers basically never down 
no use to upgrading them since it counts off the upgraded cap
ok while shervers down ima try to work out this crests math on my own
ez4eu
NA = skill diffed


with t31 and full st how often are we actually hitting slam? just when we dont have bloodthirst/bloodbath available?
Felt like I was alternating rampage and bloodbath 90% of the time when testing
or ww
thats kinda why im asking lol do we basically just neglect slam (not like we wanna hit it anyways cuz slam BAD) and just always alternate if possible and only slam or whirlwind if its a must
i wonder if we can make a weak aura that evverytime we use slam it sounds "bonk!"
no
no
Classic L take from Titan's Grip Virgins
go play classic
Classic Titan's Grip Virgin response.
Classic raging warrior rreaction... I am so proud.
We all could learn a thing or two about rage generation from Banezi.
Are we truly a 2 button spec now
and we will win against arm warrior
feels good

my hand can recover
not exactly math but I get it now
you can safely use drake crests as long as you know that you WILL HAVE enough drake crests to upgrade all slots to 463.
and knowing that means knowing if you will cap drake crests every week
which you gotta be extremely casual to not do
Will we switch over to new build on 2p 2p or is keeping old 4p better?
this the math from silm
@az.eu
cool ty!
Someone help me pick, I can't decide between playing as zandalari or orc. I like them both too much 😭
human
vulpera, always vulpera
orc is way better, swap to alliance for mechagnome tho
Dwarf is the supieror warrior. But Orc with Hunchback is the better of the two options
yes my little banerzi
I have a very dumb question (I've played several thousand hours of classic but never retail), what is the actual practical difference between fury and arms? I don't understand fundamentally how they differ in terms of rotations and stuff. Is fury just more enraged-proc based?
arms for slow people fury for zoom zoom people
except its not
Fury Zugs arms doesn't
I play frost dk atm and fury seemed more similar than arms
been running prot warrior all expansion, rolling fury this tier. Should I change my missives to last tier stats or to new stats even though I dont have the new tier set yet
Both have their set rotations, as found in the pins, Fury is all about building and spending in 10.1 and in 10.2 it is a bit more about minmaxing BT casts.
More info is in the pins.
Arms is just as fast as Fury, but got a different rotation and they (apparently) don't really care about building - as they are just spending, and cant do that fast enough, atm.
Short and sweet
Okay, sweet! I like the building and spending back and forth, so I think Fury was a good pick
fml I read the faq and not the pins
Welcome to the club
Fury superiority
any updates for elv ui yet
Hey fury pals, my guild is having us submit droptimizer sims for 10.2 and submit them to our wowaudit. I'm a bit confused how I should run these sims considering our build won't change till we get 2-set. What would you guys suggest for sims prior to getting the gear? Hope this made sense.
Id just tell them that sims only apply to off-set pieces, trinkets, weapons, etc
droptimizer doesn't sim tier set bonuses anyway, unless you are wearing 1 or 3 piecesd already which would complete the set, if that makes sense
Makes sense. I felt like it would be impossible seeing how it's a "drastic" change in talents.
At least on the fury side
Make fake sims
That’s what wowaudit is for
You sandbag your sims hard so you can get gear
Like 30% dps up for tier
if you want to sim tier i can give you strings to put into topgear
then you import annihilator talents and select them too
r the emerald rares just not spawning at all or what 😄
is wafting devition better than Sophic?
I was just about to ask, does anyone have the settings for my current gear/s2 talents -> 2pc2pc normal/heroic + annihilator
Couldn't figure it out in raidbots
i can DM you strings
ty
dont suppose anyone knows if you can play 1handed (pre legendary) without completely inting?

i mean
how can i sim when i dont know if theres even a 1handed build
hence the question lol
not the most helpful answer my guy
i took annihilator talents removed one vicious contempt and bloodcraze for SMF, dunno if thats how you do it
2x 447 1h weapons
one question, im mostly 415, what is the best way to upgrade my gear?
enter the new zone and do stuff
do content
drops 424 everywhere
and to get more than 424?
is that playing both SFM buffs too?
or if you have gold, buy said 421/424 stuff on auction house, its BoE
is this with both SFM talents? was considering fyrak weapon and maybe waycrest bleed 1h too
the second SMF talent is a waste
Unless you have a crazy ilvl upgrade and its only temporary Titan's Grip most likely makes it useless to run 1h
there are no 1h builds because theres never an actual reason to run smf
yet
Think the last number I saw was smf is a 10% damage loss
That’s without legendary cause we don’t know what it’s like
fair is that running stat only weapons or considering WM bleed wep / Fyrak
yeah i mean with legendary its no brainer
was just interested if sfm was viable without being a total int
if its a few % would be interesting but
Not sure
its viable sure
10% probs too much
not optimal
ye^
i mean
Smf had forgestorm last season and no one used it
you can faceroll 20s with smf daggers but you won't be pushing pinnacle content with it
Double shadowflame at 447 is doing better than 447 allied wrist and 447 shadowflame for me. When would we expect wrist to become better?
i mean
double dmg proc is better than 1 dmg proc
but the vers brings a bit of utility to the team
isnt the wrist?
wrists will be better with more targets/rumblings of it being better at tippity top ilvl
youre thinking chest
Hello everybody. Just wanted to hear about crafted items. Do you guys wait to get a second spark for a 2h or is there a better item to get crafted first?
and wheres the util?
crafting a 2h wep when 1st boss drops a 2h and we get a leggo is insane
You give yourself vers
read it, FOR not TO
The chest gives others vers
You don't just "get" the legendary, if it's anything like the evoker one
i do
what do people be choosing for the new spark recraft?
vers wrists for sure ong no cap
Does raidbots consider you to have 4 allies nearby when simming the wrist?
yeah
Is there new ilvl for Drogbar rocks?
no
Well that's my problem with it then. One shadowflame and vers wrist does less damage than double shadowflame
vers wrist will scale better with gear
right now shadowflame is better
as you get better gear you get more value from vers, while shadowflame stays at the same amount
whats keylevel decrease from vault key next week?
This is what people were saying about lariat last season, but it never became better than double shadowflame
I think lariat was for aoe
lariat was aoe yeah
Most people chose to just stick with st
nobody thought lariat was better on st
For me, 2x Shadowflame simmed better for ST
1 lariat and versa wirsts simmed better for 5T and a lot better on 8T
just craft vers wrists week 1 and be happy
At the beginning of the season, before anyone had sim data, they thought we would switch to lariat again later on in the season
I’m just gonna hold
I would hold, in case the blizz decide to a blizz
we have sim data of vers wrists being better in higher ilvl this time
gear compare my beloved
Where can I grab the current talents again that we should use before tier? I wanna make sure I have the right one saved here
perfect thanks making sure they were still there
Been fury the entire expansion, should I stay fury or go arms?
what best craft for 463 or wait?
If you want to try arms, go for it. If you want to stay fury, stay fure
If I wanna do more dps
wait two weeks and see where the coin lands
Sounds good
First week going into the raid, Arms should be ahead on ST dominant fights
But it'll otherwise change which spec is the best between fights in the raid
As for M+, usually Fury is ahead
Arms is looking really solid for m+ rn
Jungledrums say arms is better than Fury even
There's no real harm in crafting stuff now, but personally I'm just waiting till raid week to see if they're doing anymore tuning changes
Pretty sure they did another embellishment tuning in the latest patch notes for some healer/caster boots or w/e
@oblique trail spongie has a question for crafting
I was thinking my rings first possibly since its a safe bet maybe
Ring with food emb probably be in my first 3 crafts
Anyone have any speculation about crafted items?
Shadowflame
Oh look pins says the other
are there insights on those timerift trinkets with ilvl 450 and if they are any good?
@oblique trailwhat do i craft

banezi didn't write that
craft me a shaft pit swimming pool
For my sim, the are worse than hourglass and oce.
i thought mayber the doomhammer trinket is good on ilvl 450
@oblique trail What should I craft with my first spark I currently have lariat + wrist for M+ but also a sporecloak in bag for progression, right now I have 34.6% crit without phial (41.2% with phial but sometimes I go vers phial for more survivability) with 37.3% haste, 19.8% mastery and 11% vers. Should I just craft more crit + haste gear or do you think I should balance out my stats a bit? I feel like 13-14% vers is very strong for M+ as it helps me survive big burst events easier.
on it 🫡
what are people crafting with their crests?
Question o the day it seems
since you only got 2 basically
As long it aint the SMF question, then we are fine
safe bet to craft a wep?
its prob weapon or a trinket
if i get wep from first boss mythic, then i wont spend any on wep
but if i dont, ill prob send on a m+ wep
Not wep
fury over arms for pve right?
I would not craft a weapon, as we dont know how easy it is to get a legendary
Which pve
raid
Fury is ahead on st fights with t31 I think
Arms probably has a couple fights
No reason to swap back if forth if you don’t want to. Play what you enjoy
Fury and Arms are so close on ST (assuming 4pc) that what is better entierly depends on how the fights suit each spec
is it frequent 5 target cleave furyt
is it 2 target arms
good point
best spec is both specs
What if i already have a weapon
Then you do big dam
If you crafted yourself a weapon with your shard, then you already committed to it. If you dont get a weapon in vault, then you are still ahead.
So don't worry about it. There are only happy accidents
but dont you know we're hard locked into one spec, we have to decide now what spec we will play for the rest of the patch
@oblique trail What should I craft with my first spark I currently have lariat + wrist for M+ but also a sporecloak in bag for progression, right now I have 34.6% crit without phial (41.2% with phial but sometimes I go vers phial for more survivability) with 37.3% haste, 19.8% mastery and 11% vers. Should I just craft more crit + haste gear or do you think I should balance out my stats a bit? I feel like 13-14% vers is very strong for M+ as it helps me survive big burst events easier.
This is known
true...
you're actually a traitor if you swap spec
your account will get deleted
stay loyal to your spec, dont cheat
you will get cancelled on wowhead comments, compwow and twitch chat
my favourite tiers are those where i can play both specs on prog :)
I play fury because every time i play arms it lasts a week and i go back to fury for months because i miss it xD
Gems and recrafting stats is expensive >_<
Hey Critcake
Wassap
you should craft wrists with a toxic patch on and toxic thorn boots because you'll be rerolling to rogue since warrior is F tier and won't be brought to any raid team, the 5% AP from battle shout is not going to make up for how bad warrior is and you should just give up on it now before the raid opens up
@red yew
only way to play the raid as warrior is by buying boost, not even pug want your warrior buff 
Ok thank you benzai!
I reroll rog now
Anyone know if there are any good Taunt Reflects in the new dungeons?
F tier for fuck good
F tier for frappuccino
warrior really that bad?
yes, we all collectively got to show up at blizz hq, and then beg on our knees for buffs
Yeah
pins
ahh, ok ty
REAL AS FUCK
common benzai W
doomhammer trinket gives me +1k dps
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/urzmQ8WGdDN6gtQMM7du89
but i dont know if i wanna get rid of my beacon
The ones who care about that probably already have
what’s +1 level when it’s dropping by 11
the diff between like an 8 and a 9 next week who cares
is 2p2 any good upgrade? read something about the sims being weird because they simmed old 4p with new talents?
With it dropping by 11 it's pretty pointless unless you're doing 26s+. The next week key will be low enough to 3 chest and get up quickly
But ppl telling me if you don't run a key this week you start with 0
Does anybody know how to get this tint for Helya's Gaze (from Legion Mage Tower)
Even if you start with a +2, you'll still get the opportunity for an ilvl upgrade from the vault if you ONLY do the +2.
no longer obtainable
I pulled a 26 from my vault. Will i get 15 if i dont run anything?
I have the Helya's Gaze already. Did you mean tint is no longoer obtaninable too? @half cargo
Yea, but my problem is I couldn't find to requirement for unlock it
14
If you don’t time a 26 this week
@golden hare I already did. No info. Just "No Longer Available"
you don't have the base ?
I have
The base was from doing the challenge in legion
what the
That is the mage tower one no?
he broke the game
yea
gg
tf
uhh
It's the RBG one. Gotta win 10
Nome pointed out how its 10% scaling now and not 8% like before, so if he feels like 26 is his limit then I wouldnt even bother trying to do a 26 this week
yea I mean that was in reference to the other guy, if you can do a 26 you’ll try and do a 26 but it doesn’t rly matter
@proud bough Should I do that while use one of the Helya's Gaze appearance as tmog right?
it’s just like 2 or 3 extra keys you might have to do leveling it up next week
doesn't matter
over doing just a 20
@golden hare I guess it is because I am pretty sure I did more than 10 RBG
I don't think that matters anymore. They unlocked appearance gain across the board for a lot of things. As long as you have done the mage tower back in Legion (which you clearly already did), it won't matter
Did you win them?
do you have to log on the character you did mage tower on? 
No
yea i'm out of ideas then
@proud bough Yes, I won
maybe a support ticket angle
Did you do all 10 wins after unlocking the mage tower appearance (and within like.. the last expansion?)
Oh damn really.. The MFers been lying to me
saying i get a 0
if no key ran this week
are you guys finding the 450 weapons to be an upgrade? sims are telling me it's not on a 447, and 441 ashkandur. Same enchant. It's haste mastery (winters stand) bit surprised.
link
Winter's stand was an upgrade for me, but I didn't have an Ash
@proud bough Yes, I got the achivement in DF
You got an article showing this information?
Idk then dude, sorry. Might be unobtainable now :\
I never saw in feed
i am kinda certain i got it in DF
I'd try redoing it with the weapon mogged
@proud bough I am researching. I will inform you if I find some source
👨🦼
link the sim
🧎♂️
This website shows requirements
@proud bough You are right! I need to win 10 RBG https://youtu.be/9HD6O56DT3E
Important: My graphics card crashed once I started recording the Fury Warrior appearances, so I apologize if the lower resolution bothers you. Furthermore, I was editing the entire Arms Warriors part while knowing my laptop would be picked up for repairs any minute – I hope my stress doesn’t show too much. ^^’
Biggest shoutout to those who are s...
gg
did you do MT on a different warrior?
because the mogs are account wide
whereas the actual artifact skins themself arent
Skins are as well
^ they updated those reqs a bit ago
Like you can unlock Balance of Power skins on all your characters after doing it on only one character
thank god
@fickle bluff I did with only one character
you can still do it!! :DDDD
baby imma munch
yippeee!!!!
Don't worry, you can just pay another $15 a month for a new account to grind it out the realy way
why the guides telling me to go Anni build when i sim 10k more on raidbots as the ravager build
because you don't have the new tier set
You need 10.2 tier
how do you get that?
time rift
whats that
out of valdrakken top of every hour
doesn’t specifically say anything about not doing a key this week but I assume it should just be the same rules as normal week by week in addition to the -11 next week
storms fury?
from this one
it does
hmm
can you target that trinket or rng
Warriors and reading
not sure about until acquiring full t31 set bonus
Wtf don't leak my name 🥹
tell me who is in your pfp now. 
why tf is my damage red?
kurisu makise
dont have any debuffs
from steins gate
Rez sickness ornsomething
nope 0 debuffs
dstance?
w
Whats that
wtf is steins gate
weeb
Maybe its from the new hero talent thing
Time machine microwave anime
Steins gate is goated

Thanks man
sorry for being poor my bad

:woo:

I'd sugar daddy Erga but I'm also poor
So are hidden apperances available to grab nowadays? or gone are the days
everything but MT
thats MT then i assume?
yes
ngl arms mage tower was way better than fury
fury is just like two colorful corn dogs on a stick
Whereas arms was an actual like vrykul sword with the split down the middle
i miss my DK mogs
that shits dope
Imagine mogging anything that's not Taeshalach
thankjs i appreciate the thought 
can’t you use any emote from this server
why would that be a reason
It's animated
Or is animated emotes strictly nitro I feel like there’s no way that’s true
animated requires nitro

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