#fury

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sudden tusk
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who was like IM NOT GONNA MISS THSI CON I DONT CARE

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and now like 400 people are sick cause of one dude

south kayak
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What’s convid

frozen tartan
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10.2 stuff is fun for a day.

south kayak
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A new strain?

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Oh you were in blizzcon?

sudden tusk
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Did you see the FFXIV fanfest where some furry got everyone sick THEN MADE A COMIC NARCING ON HIMSELF THAT HE HAD COVID AFTER

serene vessel
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I spent 3 months pushing io last season for them to release augvoker while I was on vacation for a week, and for title cap to go up 100 points and the new meta comp going like 4 key levels higher

sudden tusk
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one of the funniest fucking things ive every seen

serene vessel
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also furries r weird

south kayak
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It’s pretty fast

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Got 30
Ilvls in a few hours

sudden tusk
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i mean the real issue

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is unless they actually turbo dunk aug

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its gonna be meta for long enough that keys can be capped

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if they dont nerf it before people are decently geared

serene vessel
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exactly why I unsubbed

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I saw that they werent changing it

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and realized my time would be wasted

south kayak
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I mean, they’ve been nerfing it a lot

serene vessel
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it will still be the meta m+ comp

south kayak
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There was one yesterday

frozen tartan
edgy widget
south kayak
sudden tusk
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They said they did not want it to be meta. and i believe they will get to that point. TBH i bet you aug receives actualy nerfs after RWF is over

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they dont want to shotgun it too hard so close to the event

serene vessel
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ima be honest i don't trust blizzard to know how to balance for shit

sudden tusk
serene vessel
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so i don't see it getting serious adjustments until next xpac

edgy widget
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the crud is just a generic term for like... a thousand(+) people all being shoved into the same place, with all their unique bacteria and whatnot mingling - you're going to get sick, no matter what

south kayak
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Unless you get lucky

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Which you can

edgy widget
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hits some people more or less than others, but it pretty much always happens unless you super hermit and hide away from people

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but I like to drink and make bad decisions so...... 😷

serene vessel
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but who knows maybe they'll surprise me and absolutely gut it for m+. But the problem is i just simply question the judgment of anyoine who saw what that spec was, and thought adding it into the game when no one asked for it would be a good idea. Like it's not hard to even just guess the ramifications of adding a spec like that

south kayak
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Remove the knock up from upheaval

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Or eruption

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Whatever has that

sudden tusk
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on top of it being teared down a bit. i think the other issue is other specs/classes not being able to bring enough

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As a warrior man its hard to justify myself in a key

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we didnt even get M+ rally specific tuning as a compensation

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when aug has rally at half the cd

serene vessel
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which is ironic because the patch b4 augvoker came out, warrior was probably in its best state for m+, perhaps ever

sudden tusk
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i mean everything was

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but i gotta bedge before i talk more about aug

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otherwise i wont sleep enough

toxic grove
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everything was great till 10.1.5 critcake

forest rose
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there's always someone on top and always someone on the bottom

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the cycle never ends

south kayak
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delete all specs except fury

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it will be top and bottom then

oblique trail
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Compared to earlier examples between the top and bottom

forest rose
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give blizz time, they will nerf aug into the ground

stuck bison
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S1 and pre 10.1.5 was pretty balanced.i was able to compete with our dk and watlocks in raid if i played good. And i was seeing most of the specs in the keys. After 10.1.5 i slowly lost my interest into m+ and and raiding.

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Looking parses after kill was enjoyable before aug. Now i hate to look for if i get any aug buffs

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I swear those scalies steal dps and parses

forest rose
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adding a support spec was never going to end well

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it either needed to be strong enough that you NEEDED one or it would be DoA

sterile remnant
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Where is fury standing stat wise now, crit cought up or still mastery haste ish

autumn mica
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With the tier set crit gains some value yeah

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But not over the top

sterile remnant
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So smth like mastery>haste=crit?

autumn mica
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For some reason at my sims crit falls off after 25-30% but again idk if i can trust all the sims so early

sterile remnant
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I do believe haste would drop in value after 30 as well

oblique trail
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I do believe feelycrafting would drop in value after 30 too

sterile remnant
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Time will tell it seems

autumn mica
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Haste 34-35% , Crit 25-30% , mastery 60-62% then versatility. This is what my sims show

summer quail
autumn mica
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Value wise. But it's probably best u can one of the simcrafters in disc

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Yeah the 4p has the crit benefit

sterile remnant
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But you get 4p regardless wont you?

autumn mica
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2p does not gain value from crit

summer quail
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ye so it kinda evens out

autumn mica
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so it's kinda not too much of one stat due to deminishing returns it seems

summer quail
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yes at the end we will end up with some of all stats. we're already hitting drs on 2 stats in aberrus

autumn mica
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find the haste sweet spot around 32-35% , then mastery 60-62% then crit 30% and then versa jumps on top on my sims atleast

sterile remnant
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For arms atleast right now im sitting on 50% crit and 40%haste

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Love to be able to play both specs but stats still differ then it seems

autumn mica
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But again lets see tbh i'd say just always keep following the sims

summer quail
sterile remnant
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Mastery into haste?

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Werent they still prefering haste and crit

summer quail
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ye but mastery is pretty decent for arms

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just coz a spec prefers certain stats doesn't necessarily mean the other stats are bad on them

sterile remnant
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Makes sense

edgy widget
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depends greatly on your level of gear

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and what you're running

errant vessel
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Why’re we getting less value out of haste? Don’t we have extremely high uptime on bleed?

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And our rage generation scales even better with haste now as well

clever belfry
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u use your rage faster with haste too

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that does not matter

errant vessel
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Not saying it’s wrong, but where’s the big difference making it the case?

oblique trail
errant vessel
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Of course it matters

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Annihilator autos scale better with haste than normal autos

edgy widget
clever belfry
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i am aware yes

edgy widget
errant vessel
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Sorry if I sounded dismissive

edgy widget
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yeah but if you're already casting Rampage every 2-3 GCDs anyway, that extra rage gen isn't really doing a whole lot

clever belfry
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especially with wft youll barely ever notice it

edgy widget
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it actually breakpoints, if you really wanna dive that deep into it

errant vessel
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Yeah but couldn’t the haste potentially give breakpoints in terms of the occassional empty gcd?

clever belfry
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simc try to not find random breakpoints people would never be able to abuse in gameplay challenge (impossible)

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unless you missplay, not really

edgy widget
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Eh I mean there are a ton of breakpoints for various things, but they tend to be mostly academic

clever belfry
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just charge weave

clever belfry
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But they're just irrelevant to players

edgy widget
clever belfry
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one wrong button press and its just out the wjndow anyjow

edgy widget
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which is to say that the GCD and ability cooldowns are compressed at the same rate

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all haste would do is make that empty GCD shorter, but relatively speaking its still an empty GCD either way

errant vessel
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I guess I’m misplaying with the new build then, because I feel like it’s not that rare to get the empty GCD

edgy widget
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What Fury does is get a lot more bursty during cooldowns, and its leaning pretty hard into Mastery/Versatility

edgy widget
errant vessel
clever belfry
errant vessel
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Yeah exactly

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But I don’t know what haste breakpoint that’d be

edgy widget
errant vessel
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But if there’s one it could maybe mean you would be able to focus on BB>Ramp over BB>BT>Ramp in some cases

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Time to download swing timer weakaura yep

edgy widget
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Annihilator is nice, but it's still only about 14% of your rage gen

clever belfry
edgy widget
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Also drops off doesn't mean bad, it just means it's starting to fall a bit compared to other stats that probably aren't hitting DR already - it was already happening in Season 2, it just lasted a little longer (keep in mind the S2 set bonus)

errant vessel
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I guess haste does also increase Hurricane uptime

edgy widget
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although Mastery is just god stat, it's actually always been kinda over budget, cause it was never really tuned around having 90%+ enrage uptime

clever belfry
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Didnt we always have that in df tho xd

edgy widget
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We did, and like I said, it wasn't really tuned around it

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We're using the same relative mastery scaling we did last expansion, just increased to DF values

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except enrage uptime jumped dramatically from tier 1

clever belfry
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(it should always be better than versa imo cause that has tangible defensive benefit)

edgy widget
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it should, but I wasn't comparing it to just vers

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lemme put it this way

errant vessel
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Every spec design should aim for vers as their worst stat tbh

edgy widget
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BiS profile atm is

  • 21% crit
  • 26% vers
  • 27% haste
  • 62% mastery
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so when I say Mastery is way ahead

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it's way ahead

errant vessel
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Sheesh 26% vers

winged vale
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is that including the crit phial?

errant vessel
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When is mastery dr hit?

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Like what percentage

edgy widget
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it hits several points

chrome summit
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Pin those stats xD

idle oriole
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what is the stat point breakdown on that?

edgy widget
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it's all just a byproduct of reaching such high secondary stat inflation that we have... well a ton of stats to go around, so several of the weights start to merge together

errant vessel
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Holy shit haste is booty

edgy widget
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again, that's because that profile is going beyond the breakpoint (not by much though)

errant vessel
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Mastery being above off hand dps is also meme

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Is that entirely because of the lack of OH scaling on BT?

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Oh what is it then?

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I thought off hand dps didn’t contribute to the scaling of BT

edgy widget
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OH DPS has always been low, like these are my current Season 2 weights

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but OH and OH DPS are very different

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the OH is still generally the second most important slot (beyond trinkets/tier/special effects) due to the high amount of stats

errant vessel
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That still looks like we’re scaling off our OH dps way more than next tier :o

edgy widget
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OH DPS isn't directly factored in abilities that don't have an OH component to its hit, but in most cases those two weapons are the same DPS anyway, so it's not really an important distinction

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I guess that might change with the legendary, presuming it (should be) higher ilevel

errant vessel
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I guess it becomes really important to put biggest ilvl in main hand now though

edgy widget
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well it always has been

oblique trail
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Considering the Evo lego was 457, I imagine it will be higher ilvl

edgy widget
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simply because OH damage is halved

errant vessel
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Ye but even more important

oblique trail
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Would be a bit silly if the lego is equal ilvl to another normal weapon

edgy widget
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I mean, sure "more important" but it was already extremely important so it's a meaningless difference lol

errant vessel
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Saw someone in log review say that having highest ilvl in main hand was a common mistake - this was wrong then I take it

edgy widget
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maybe back in like... WoD

tropic atlas
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it's 10 item level but has a 1% chance to kill the enemy every hit

edgy widget
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but not since then, I wouldn't say it's extremely common

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there was some confusion in previous expansions where we had distinct offhand attacks (like Enh Lava Lash), but it's some time since then

summer quail
errant vessel
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Legit can’t wait to see the effect

obsidian glade
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Good morning everyone. It appears that our rotation has indeed shifted a little, but somehow, by reading the rotation on wowhead, I can't really picture the way I play Fury now. Is it "just spam bloodthirst, fill a slam every 9 or so, everything else on cd"?
Because we are running abandon now, we don't want to spam rampage anymore? How exactly does that work?

edgy widget
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here we go, here's a fun little plot

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pretty much have to do tight plots like this, any long term projections are basically a straight line of all four stats

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so you can see crit looping around, and just starting to pick up some steam

errant vessel
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Is it the same for MT?

edgy widget
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while mastery is just up down, up down, up down

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this is a very short projection though, so not really the best analysis (plus we don't have 500 extra stats to pick up anyway)

errant vessel
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Also how do you make those plots? (Is there some documentation somewhere)

edgy widget
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simc magic

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pretty much the main thing to worry about in Season 3 is just grab ilevel though lol

errant vessel
edgy widget
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yes but that's not gaining stats, that's trading one stat for another

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which is an entirely different context (and main reason stat weights are less preferred than just simming gear outright these days)

slim coral
errant vessel
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Kinda both off but also in topic: do you think people are gonna spam Throne of Tides just like they did UNDR for the trinket?

oblique trail
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Might is gonna be good for m+

errant vessel
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It seems like it’s basically vial but better

edgy widget
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Might is a pretty good MT trinket, but it's not really the best trinket from what I've seen

fading bane
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AtalDazar trinket sims really well on ST

summer quail
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is might better than mirror?

edgy widget
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I'd definitely pick it up early if you can though, as it's one of the better ones from Mythic+ specifically

edgy widget
fading bane
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both megadungeon trinkets also seem strong

errant vessel
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But it’s a small diff iirc

edgy widget
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as with most things, depends on your build and level of gearing

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bloodmallet isn't really setup for MT right now either

errant vessel
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And I prefer 1.5 min cd over 3 min

errant vessel
summer quail
slim coral
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I’m just gonna loot brand and augury

edgy widget
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Actually BM doesn't have the newest profiles yet anyway, it's still running old trinkets and embellishments; not that they're a huge difference

summer quail
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then again i personally don't sim multitarget at all

errant vessel
edgy widget
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It does work, when it's setup for it

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and MT isn't entirely set up yet

errant vessel
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Ye I mean isn’t entirely optimized for it

tall surge
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Hey Guys, could anyone tell me if we crit BT on 3/4 targets in aoe then the CD od OF is reduced by every crit or just one?

edgy widget
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just once

summer quail
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would be so good if it were per target

errant vessel
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Yeah it has a 500 ms internal cooldown iirc

drifting cloud
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do we know how the talent build is gonna look like with 2/4 set and before any set ?

oblique trail
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Before any set, you keep the season 2 setup with am/os/ravager

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after 2set, you go annihilator with the build in the pins/on wowhead

errant vessel
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Wait what really?

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I thought we swapped on 4 set

oblique trail
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if you don't swap at 2p, you effectively don't have a 2p bonus

tall surge
errant vessel
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Tier set should be given to sub rogue first anyway, so you can acquire 4 set straight away by the time you’re given a piece

oblique trail
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I'm pretty sure that Outlaw is still higher both pre and post set

errant vessel
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They seemingly get a 12% upgrade from last tier set

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Donno if this is propaganda though

fading bane
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the sheet is accurate, but its not displayed in the best way imo

errant vessel
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Agree

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If it’s accurate we’re 2nd prio though which is nice

chrome cobalt
fading bane
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the sheet has our 4pc as 5.5%

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but when i simmed it myself its 9%

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and it was 7% at one point

glass kelp
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hey guys, i was levelling and my main rotation rotates around my cd's and Blood thirst as "1" on my keybind and Raging Blow as "2" .. now i got Annihilator and it replaces raging blow. with what can i replace it ? with Slam?

oblique trail
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yes

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put slam where rb was

glass kelp
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ty ty

fading bane
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im bookmarking my sim that shows 4pc as 9% gain for next week

errant vessel
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Is that with same ilvl though?

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And stat spread

median token
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they sim with the new set at the same ilvl

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you dont

wild mural
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I legit can't read that

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it's like, my eyes without glasses

errant vessel
median token
wild mural
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im gonna download more RAM

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we lose dps from 2p?

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but then gain a but from 4

fading bane
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so a top gear with gems and enchnts is more accurate

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cus stats shift with diff tier pieces

wild mural
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not that my guild is gonna be interested in distributing gear based on this

errant vessel
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Ayo we’re actually biggest zenith upgrade

wild mural
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I was one of the first in my guild with 2p cause I won the roll

errant vessel
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Nvm 5.41 is not bigger than 5.44

oblique trail
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I imagine some guilds will also prio tier to their best players first

wild mural
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apparently everyone's gonna be outlaw anyway

errant vessel
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Ye I mean they’re too broken not to play as a rogue right

fading bane
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sub has the highest gain

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but idk if u play it

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outlaw is pretty good and so is assa apparently

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it might just be Assa ST and Outlaw on cleave

oblique trail
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Assa has absolutely disgusting peaks rn

errant vessel
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Outlaw being the highest st dps spec is still fever dream material

fading bane
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Assa is like nuts with Aug + PI i think

wild mural
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i've heard most are gonna be outlaw

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but idk take whatever I say w/ a pinch of salt

oblique trail
wild mural
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im a known idiot

fading bane
errant vessel
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Outlaw is more uptime reliant though, so gonna come down to that as well

wild mural
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i dont care about tier iv'e claimed prio on legendary xan

oblique trail
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I've been benched once for prog and it was for Anduin prog

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still don't know if that was a blessing or curse

fading bane
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Anduin was a good boss

wild mural
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I was benched on Mag kill

oblique trail
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Superbia had like 180 pulls I think on him

wild mural
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but that was the last time I was benched since like bfa

oblique trail
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It was kinda crazy though going from the highs of Halondrus

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To being benched for 2 weeks on Andy

fading bane
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we had 150

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but we also killed it earlier prob

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dont remember when nerfs came

wild mural
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I was the only warrior in my guild in voti tho, and before that I was in shit guilds with roster boss and I was a pumper

oblique trail
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according to progstats.io superbia also killed it before any major nerfs

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I remember setting up the cursed Arms FoB build for Anduin

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my soul when I saw I was benched

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all my efforts..

wild mural
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is there actually a cap

fading bane
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some ways of getting crests dont count towards cap

wild mural
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hmmm

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I've spent a load aswell

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I must have had like 100 free crests

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wtf

fading bane
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whelp are the worst tho

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should get many of them

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it gives u like s2 ilvl gear

wild mural
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yeah

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this bad boye

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I need to update my WA I know

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better

white tulip
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so for raid opening you want to basically run the old build until 2p or 4p correct ? or is it worth running the new build straight away?

fading bane
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not until 2pc

white tulip
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thanks mate

wild mural
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was the evoker legendary personal loot

fading bane
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yes

summer quail
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yes

wild mural
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okay im never getting it

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gg

fading bane
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gg

wild mural
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I still dont have either the rasz or sark mount

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I feel like Im one of the only CE players without atleast 1

prime cape
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I see pinned embellishments but no talents yet, we still going for the 2 button specc with current tuning?

fading bane
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talents are in guide

sterile remnant
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I got essence trinket 5 months after release and you complain about mounts?

wild mural
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@chrome plover

errant vessel
wild mural
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F

errant vessel
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They got it to 3% one of the 3 pulls I was away

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Luckily I was there on kill next week

wild mural
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we did a load of pulls on mythic neltharion as 19 ppl

errant vessel
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We kinda did as well considering we had an uh dk dealing 65k dps on avg

wild mural
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???

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how

errant vessel
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Don’t know tbh

wild mural
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gimme a good game to play

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im bored of wow

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already

errant vessel
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Deep rock galactic

wild mural
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it costs money

fading bane
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any fromsoftware game

errant vessel
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Brawlhalla idk

fading bane
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if you got Xbox pass. Lies of P

wild mural
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I don't

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Im looking at the free games on steam and they all look boring

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meh im jujst gonna watch a movie before i go for my eye test

chrome plover
errant vessel
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can you use a 70 boost on someone with lvl 70 already?

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to get the renown shit

deft thicket
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may i ask if slam got changed and worth using it? i saw the pin and that is why i ask

fading bane
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you slam with t31

deft thicket
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oh ok so till i get 4pc t31 i use the old build i guess! i just wonder if it is worth to use 4pc or 2pc with replacing with higher ilvl pieces! sorry if it is asked again and didnt see it

lavish grove
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Use new 2p with new build

deft thicket
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and the new build is the one annihilator and odyn if i im right?

summer quail
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yes

deft thicket
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ok thx

flat river
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Hello fellow warriors

silver mantle
wild mural
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Never

silver mantle
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Coward

oblique trail
toxic grove
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genshin is actually a good game for free

lavish beacon
narrow narwhal
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:woo:

icy cliff
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Where can ifind the T31 rotation guide gor S3? On wowhead i obly can see T30 guide for S3.

clever belfry
hollow elk
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once you get t31 youd switch to the other skills

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like what

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also did you scroll down

icy cliff
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Doesnt matter what set i use cauze of rota?

hollow elk
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There's two templates for each mplus and raids.

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One for t30 and t31

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Just look at the t30 for now till you get t31

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And click in the skills that you're using on each of the rotations then the page will generate a rotation for ya

clever path
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Anyone hear about the speculation that the wow anniversary buff won't apply to dream wardens Rep?

tall surge
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Is anyone planning to farm fyrrak tank trinket for m+? It Sims pretty good.. or there are better options?

heavy galleon
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it's worth to upgrade 463 weapons ?

frosty scroll
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i wouldnt bother upgrading rn, as u should be spamming m+ next reset anyways

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keep it for whenever the first wave of upgrades is here and u can then choose what to upgrade better okayge

wild mural
tardy lark
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But it is good

next canopy
wild mural
wild mural
tardy lark
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You kinda need a build to follow in poe, but the first time you go through campaign it’s pretty good

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Dota is more punishing. Heroes have turn rates, you lose gold on death and height on map makes a difference

limpid kelp
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is it worth savin sparks for a 2h or would you go ahead and craft wrists?

wild mural
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Hmm sounds confusing

tardy lark
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It kinda is. It’s a good game with a lot of depth, but very often the meta is kinda slow and falling behind can feel impossible to overcome

wild mural
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I was bad enough at league sadge never made it out of bronze

chrome plover
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poe is best game ever made perhaps

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only played 2 games of dota and they both lasted 70+ minutes and i wanted to die

tardy lark
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League is fast paced, so maybe the slower pace of dota will suit you. Who knows

wild mural
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Maybe

tardy lark
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I think poe is good if you have 200 hours to sink into understanding wtf is going on if you start late

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Playing that game without someone to answer your questions at hand is a horrible experience

wild mural
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Hmm fair enough

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I miss D3

tardy lark
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This season d4 was pretty good

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D2R also bangs still

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I’m quite fond of terraria

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Or you can find a ps3 emulator and play all the old games

wild mural
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I’ve gone off Civ a bit sadge

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That’s what I would play but idk

tardy lark
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Final fantasy series are cheap af on steam most times

wild mural
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I really wanted to play the new god of war game but I dont have a PS5

hardy crow
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are there any gear upgrades to be had this week?

fading bane
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Nothing that lasts

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you wont miss out at all

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get your epics from emerald dream

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that you can upgrade to 463, and thats it

stiff barn
hardy crow
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where do you get them from? rares?

left perch
stiff barn
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Superbloom

hardy crow
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superbloom dailt?

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daily

stiff barn
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Weekly bag

fading bane
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superbloom quest and the quest for doing 5 seeds iirc

hardy crow
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nice, ty guys

glass kelp
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is it okay if i charge and then reck/avatar or vice versa ?

meager void
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Ok, a question about whelp crests. I see some reputable warriors rocking 463 weap atm and I'm not sure why

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is the math so that you wont really need whelps and should just upgrade the weapon to 463?

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Im holding because you can turn whelps into drakes and I figure we will be starved for drakes for a bit

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or am I wrong here?

summer quail
#

Need drakes for 463 weapon

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As well

meager void
#

then Im confused as fuck

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why would they spend drakes at this moment?

summer quail
#

Idk, my guildmaster said using drakes is fine and he knows better than i do so i spent them

solemn plover
#

@oblique trail hey do we know what the best race is iim consiideriing raceswapping my warrior

meager void
#

vulpera, of course

warm crag
#

vulpera

meager void
#

furry furry is the way

solemn plover
#

but ty

warm crag
#

np

fading bane
#

Drakes have no value

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no reason to hold them

stiff barn
#

Yeah, especially once you get into hc where wyrms drop

civic drum
#

No reason to spend them either

summer quail
#

463 weapon strong

stiff barn
#

Drake's will become obsolete very quickly

fading bane
#

apprently you can turn drakes into wyrms or some shit

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but it has a requirement

civic drum
#

Yeah when all your gear is 463

fading bane
#

so you need to be 463 ilvl to do so

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and by then wyrms are also obsolete

civic drum
#

That’s why you save so you can upgrade items that doesn’t drop on high item@level next week

summer quail
meager void
#

ok, I'm sold. 463 weapon inc

solemn plover
steel copper
#

Imagine paying to go furry. Just level one for free and enjoy more time behind the furr

oblique trail
scarlet blaze
#

Hey there. Haven't played since DF release. Is pvp conquest gear viable in pve? What's the max ilvl of conquest gear? Can I transform conquest gear into tier piece with catalyst and use it in pve? I've noticed that no one talks about pvp gear when it comes to gearing for pve. Thanks

left perch
oblique trail
chrome plover
#

so generally it isnt that useful in pve, I dont know the exact ilvls

oblique trail
#

Pretty sure it's like lfr ilvl or so in pve

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but gets omega buffed in pvp

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so yeah

chrome plover
#

kind of a good change imo, pvping to gear for pve was wack and pve'ers wearing op pve gear in pvp was also wack

oblique trail
#

shadowlands s1 moment

chrome plover
left perch
oblique trail
#

and I answered

left perch
#

WHAT

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sorry I didn’t see

chrome plover
#

blindass

left perch
chrome plover
wild mural
#

yeah it's like 408 base, 433 or something on max ilvl in s2

left perch
#

did you slingshot?

wild mural
#

I think I'm renown 8

next canopy
wild mural
#

and Im fairly sure I've done everything except the pvp quest

polar trail
#

I’m 15 1/2

chrome plover
#

i got to 10 on my alt and then did everything on my main

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and it got me to 15 1/2

polar trail
#

But cant be arsed to do regular world quests on a contract to get 16

chrome plover
#

then i did all world quests with contract

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and im 16

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^^^

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yeah

left perch
chrome plover
#

I guess I get to 18 on wednesday before raid

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comfy

left perch
#

gaming

polar trail
#

Thursday is anniversary, right? Can quite easily get to 20 then

chrome plover
polar trail
#

+19% rep

left perch
#

You could upgrade it to like 430/450 if you climbed the arena ladder tho so it was semi useful

meager void
steel copper
#

You get it

icy cliff
#

What is best additional proc on items? Speed, leech, avoidance?

grand tundra
#

Save drake crest this week ?

meager void
#

for the hardest (uwu) content

orchid ginkgo
#

does the shadowflame embellishment to cloak (or wrists) count as 2 (both) embellishments?

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like get the cloak and thats all you can equip if you are running it

fading bane
#

if you got 2x shadowflame

meager void
#

why would it count as two?

fading bane
#

its 2x embelliushment

meager void
#

yeah, if you get 2, its 2

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and 1 is 1

fading bane
#

dont know what ur asking tho lol

meager void
#

1=1
2=2
can confirm

fading bane
#

2+2=5

orchid ginkgo
meager void
#

im sassy cuz servers down, sowy

fading bane
#

oh shit NA is up soon

#

but not really

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cus 10 hour maintenance

#

wait what

#

its not tuesday, im trippin

meager void
#

should be a short one

dense elbow
meager void
#

but you know blizz...

fading bane
#

EU servers basically never down keks

torpid tusk
meager void
#

ok while shervers down ima try to work out this crests math on my own

clever belfry
#

NA = skill diffed

chrome plover
rotund steppe
lilac totem
#

with t31 and full st how often are we actually hitting slam? just when we dont have bloodthirst/bloodbath available?

polar trail
#

Felt like I was alternating rampage and bloodbath 90% of the time when testing

lilac totem
#

thats kinda why im asking lol do we basically just neglect slam (not like we wanna hit it anyways cuz slam BAD) and just always alternate if possible and only slam or whirlwind if its a must

rotund steppe
#

i wonder if we can make a weak aura that evverytime we use slam it sounds "bonk!"

lilac totem
#

oh u def can

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and at this point? prob required xD

long nimbus
#

I need

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All of you

#

To spec into Single Minded Fury when the servers open again.

oblique trail
#

no

rotund steppe
#

no

long nimbus
#

Classic L take from Titan's Grip Virgins

oblique trail
#

go play classic

long nimbus
#

Classic Titan's Grip Virgin response.

oblique trail
#

blocked

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get owned

long nimbus
#

Classic raging warrior rreaction... I am so proud.

#

We all could learn a thing or two about rage generation from Banezi.

inner sedge
#

Are we truly a 2 button spec now

obtuse basin
inner sedge
#

feels good

obtuse basin
inner sedge
#

my hand can recover

meager void
#

not exactly math but I get it now

#

you can safely use drake crests as long as you know that you WILL HAVE enough drake crests to upgrade all slots to 463.

#

and knowing that means knowing if you will cap drake crests every week

#

which you gotta be extremely casual to not do

young ether
#

Will we switch over to new build on 2p 2p or is keeping old 4p better?

meager void
bitter tartan
#

@az.eu

young ether
clever path
#

Someone help me pick, I can't decide between playing as zandalari or orc. I like them both too much 😭

fickle bluff
#

orc

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with the hunchback

compact knot
#

human

meager void
#

vulpera, always vulpera

icy sable
#

orc is way better, swap to alliance for mechagnome tho

meager void
#

oh mechagnome master race for sure

#

server up

long nimbus
#

Dwarf is the supieror warrior. But Orc with Hunchback is the better of the two options

solemn plover
cedar geyser
#

I have a very dumb question (I've played several thousand hours of classic but never retail), what is the actual practical difference between fury and arms? I don't understand fundamentally how they differ in terms of rotations and stuff. Is fury just more enraged-proc based?

toxic grove
#

arms for slow people fury for zoom zoom people

fickle bluff
#

except its not

long nimbus
#

Fury Zugs arms doesn't

cedar geyser
#

I play frost dk atm and fury seemed more similar than arms

cedar galleon
#

been running prot warrior all expansion, rolling fury this tier. Should I change my missives to last tier stats or to new stats even though I dont have the new tier set yet

dense elbow
#

Short and sweet

cedar geyser
#

fml I read the faq and not the pins

dense elbow
#

Fury is the right pick when you ask in #fury that is for sure

toxic grove
#

Welcome to the club

long nimbus
#

Fury superiority

fleet heath
#

any updates for elv ui yet

red jackal
#

Hey fury pals, my guild is having us submit droptimizer sims for 10.2 and submit them to our wowaudit. I'm a bit confused how I should run these sims considering our build won't change till we get 2-set. What would you guys suggest for sims prior to getting the gear? Hope this made sense.

frosty karma
#

Id just tell them that sims only apply to off-set pieces, trinkets, weapons, etc

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droptimizer doesn't sim tier set bonuses anyway, unless you are wearing 1 or 3 piecesd already which would complete the set, if that makes sense

red jackal
#

Makes sense. I felt like it would be impossible seeing how it's a "drastic" change in talents.

#

At least on the fury side

gilded pawn
#

Make fake sims

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That’s what wowaudit is for

#

You sandbag your sims hard so you can get gear

#

Like 30% dps up for tier

frosty karma
#

if you want to sim tier i can give you strings to put into topgear

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then you import annihilator talents and select them too

rustic obsidian
#

r the emerald rares just not spawning at all or what 😄

ionic raptor
#

is wafting devition better than Sophic?

tacit crag
#

Couldn't figure it out in raidbots

frosty karma
#

i can DM you strings

tacit crag
shell wagon
#

dont suppose anyone knows if you can play 1handed (pre legendary) without completely inting?

warm lark
shell wagon
#

i mean

#

how can i sim when i dont know if theres even a 1handed build

#

hence the question lol

#

not the most helpful answer my guy

frosty karma
#

i took annihilator talents removed one vicious contempt and bloodcraze for SMF, dunno if thats how you do it

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2x 447 1h weapons

radiant egret
#

one question, im mostly 415, what is the best way to upgrade my gear?

frosty karma
#

enter the new zone and do stuff

willow cradle
#

do content

frosty karma
#

drops 424 everywhere

radiant egret
#

and to get more than 424?

shell wagon
#

is that playing both SFM buffs too?

frosty karma
#

or if you have gold, buy said 421/424 stuff on auction house, its BoE

shell wagon
# frosty karma

is this with both SFM talents? was considering fyrak weapon and maybe waycrest bleed 1h too

willow cradle
warm lark
fickle bluff
#

there are no 1h builds because theres never an actual reason to run smf

warm crag
#

yet

olive wraith
#

Think the last number I saw was smf is a 10% damage loss

#

That’s without legendary cause we don’t know what it’s like

shell wagon
#

fair is that running stat only weapons or considering WM bleed wep / Fyrak

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yeah i mean with legendary its no brainer

#

was just interested if sfm was viable without being a total int

#

if its a few % would be interesting but

olive wraith
#

Not sure

warm crag
#

its viable sure

shell wagon
#

10% probs too much

warm crag
#

not optimal

shell wagon
#

ye^

rotund steppe
#

i mean

olive wraith
#

Smf had forgestorm last season and no one used it

warm crag
#

you can faceroll 20s with smf daggers but you won't be pushing pinnacle content with it

rotund steppe
#

true its not 10%

#

its 11% keks

full portal
#

Double shadowflame at 447 is doing better than 447 allied wrist and 447 shadowflame for me. When would we expect wrist to become better?

rotund steppe
#

i mean

#

double dmg proc is better than 1 dmg proc

#

but the vers brings a bit of utility to the team

fickle bluff
#

no it doesnt

#

wrong allied piece

rotund steppe
#

isnt the wrist?

fickle bluff
#

wrists will be better with more targets/rumblings of it being better at tippity top ilvl

#

youre thinking chest

slow fable
#

Hello everybody. Just wanted to hear about crafted items. Do you guys wait to get a second spark for a 2h or is there a better item to get crafted first?

rotund steppe
fickle bluff
#

wait until you actually get gear

#

a 2h weapon is usually not the way to go

fickle bluff
rotund steppe
#

the fake aug vers

fast mural
#

crafting a 2h wep when 1st boss drops a 2h and we get a leggo is insane

olive wraith
#

You give yourself vers

fickle bluff
#

read it, FOR not TO

olive wraith
#

The chest gives others vers

rotund steppe
#

mb

full portal
#

You don't just "get" the legendary, if it's anything like the evoker one

heady saffron
#

i do

exotic cradle
#

what do people be choosing for the new spark recraft?

compact knot
#

vers wrists for sure ong no cap

full portal
#

Does raidbots consider you to have 4 allies nearby when simming the wrist?

compact knot
#

yeah

somber parcel
#

Is there new ilvl for Drogbar rocks?

compact knot
#

no

full portal
#

Well that's my problem with it then. One shadowflame and vers wrist does less damage than double shadowflame

compact knot
#

vers wrist will scale better with gear

#

right now shadowflame is better

#

as you get better gear you get more value from vers, while shadowflame stays at the same amount

umbral ingot
#

whats keylevel decrease from vault key next week?

compact knot
#

whatever ilvl key youve done this week - 11 levels

#

ive done a 23 so ill get a 12

full portal
#

This is what people were saying about lariat last season, but it never became better than double shadowflame

olive wraith
#

I think lariat was for aoe

compact knot
#

lariat was aoe yeah

olive wraith
#

Most people chose to just stick with st

compact knot
#

nobody thought lariat was better on st

dense elbow
#

For me, 2x Shadowflame simmed better for ST

#

1 lariat and versa wirsts simmed better for 5T and a lot better on 8T

compact knot
#

just craft vers wrists week 1 and be happy

full portal
#

At the beginning of the season, before anyone had sim data, they thought we would switch to lariat again later on in the season

olive wraith
#

I’m just gonna hold

dense elbow
#

I would hold, in case the blizz decide to a blizz

compact knot
#

week 2 i mean

#

dont craft rn bbgirl

compact knot
#

gear compare my beloved

ocean thistle
#

Where can I grab the current talents again that we should use before tier? I wanna make sure I have the right one saved here

oblique trail
#

They should be in the wowhead guide

#

under the talent builds tab

ocean thistle
#

perfect thanks making sure they were still there

brisk heron
#

Been fury the entire expansion, should I stay fury or go arms?

alpine flax
#

what best craft for 463 or wait?

dense elbow
brisk heron
#

If I wanna do more dps

dense elbow
#

wait two weeks and see where the coin lands

brisk heron
#

Sounds good

oblique trail
#

First week going into the raid, Arms should be ahead on ST dominant fights

#

But it'll otherwise change which spec is the best between fights in the raid

#

As for M+, usually Fury is ahead

olive wraith
#

Arms is looking really solid for m+ rn

dense elbow
#

Jungledrums say arms is better than Fury even

olive wraith
#

The arms aura buffs doing work

#

Plus the newish fob build slaps

dense elbow
#

Fury will scale better with the legendary

#

just you wait

oblique trail
#

Pretty sure they did another embellishment tuning in the latest patch notes for some healer/caster boots or w/e

dense elbow
#

caster boobs

solemn plover
#

@oblique trail spongie has a question for crafting

ocean thistle
#

I was thinking my rings first possibly since its a safe bet maybe

olive wraith
#

Ring with food emb probably be in my first 3 crafts

dim meadow
#

Anyone have any speculation about crafted items?

left perch
#

wrists and forgor the other

#

not cloak

livid lake
#

Shadowflame

left perch
#

Oh look pins says the other

white relic
#

are there insights on those timerift trinkets with ilvl 450 and if they are any good?

golden hare
#

@oblique trailwhat do i craft

dark flower
golden hare
#

banezi didn't write that

oblique trail
wanton mirage
white relic
#

i thought mayber the doomhammer trinket is good on ilvl 450

red yew
#

@oblique trail What should I craft with my first spark I currently have lariat + wrist for M+ but also a sporecloak in bag for progression, right now I have 34.6% crit without phial (41.2% with phial but sometimes I go vers phial for more survivability) with 37.3% haste, 19.8% mastery and 11% vers. Should I just craft more crit + haste gear or do you think I should balance out my stats a bit? I feel like 13-14% vers is very strong for M+ as it helps me survive big burst events easier.

golden hare
rocky leaf
#

what are people crafting with their crests?

dense elbow
#

I am just holdin' till next week

#

see what drops or not

olive wraith
#

Question o the day it seems

fading bane
#

since you only got 2 basically

dense elbow
#

As long it aint the SMF question, then we are fine

rocky leaf
#

safe bet to craft a wep?

fading bane
#

its prob weapon or a trinket

#

if i get wep from first boss mythic, then i wont spend any on wep

#

but if i dont, ill prob send on a m+ wep

olive wraith
#

Not wep

rocky leaf
#

fury over arms for pve right?

dense elbow
#

I would not craft a weapon, as we dont know how easy it is to get a legendary

olive wraith
#

Which pve

rocky leaf
#

raid

olive wraith
#

Fury is ahead on st fights with t31 I think

#

Arms probably has a couple fights

#

No reason to swap back if forth if you don’t want to. Play what you enjoy

fading bane
#

Fury and Arms are so close on ST (assuming 4pc) that what is better entierly depends on how the fights suit each spec

#

is it frequent 5 target cleave furyt

#

is it 2 target arms

rocky leaf
#

good point

mossy fox
#

best spec is both specs

flat river
dense elbow
#

Then you do big dam

flat river
#

Like crafted shadowflame

#

Do i upgrade it or

dense elbow
#

If you crafted yourself a weapon with your shard, then you already committed to it. If you dont get a weapon in vault, then you are still ahead.

So don't worry about it. There are only happy accidents

fading bane
#

if you only play 1 warrior spec

#

you are doing it wrong

modest condor
warm crag
#

@oblique trail What should I craft with my first spark I currently have lariat + wrist for M+ but also a sporecloak in bag for progression, right now I have 34.6% crit without phial (41.2% with phial but sometimes I go vers phial for more survivability) with 37.3% haste, 19.8% mastery and 11% vers. Should I just craft more crit + haste gear or do you think I should balance out my stats a bit? I feel like 13-14% vers is very strong for M+ as it helps me survive big burst events easier.

fading bane
#

like both spec use very different gear

#

one uses 2h

#

other uses 2x 2h

mossy fox
#

you're actually a traitor if you swap spec

modest condor
#

your account will get deleted

mossy fox
#

stay loyal to your spec, dont cheat

#

you will get cancelled on wowhead comments, compwow and twitch chat

fading bane
#

my favourite tiers are those where i can play both specs on prog :)

flat river
#

Gems and recrafting stats is expensive >_<

#

Hey Critcake

#

Wassap

oblique trail
#

@red yew

fading bane
#

only way to play the raid as warrior is by buying boost, not even pug want your warrior buff keks

red yew
#

I reroll rog now

livid lake
#

Anyone know if there are any good Taunt Reflects in the new dungeons?

narrow narwhal
#

F tier for fuck good

fading bane
#

nonoon

#

F tier for fuck bad

#

we are bad

red yew
#

F tier for frappuccino

rocky leaf
#

warrior really that bad?

fading bane
#

yes, we all collectively got to show up at blizz hq, and then beg on our knees for buffs

gilded pawn
#

Yeah

urban drum
#

primal vambraces are bis bracers for 10.2?

#

bis list says so but wanted to be sure

clever path
#

pins

urban drum
#

ahh, ok ty

golden hare
#

common benzai W

white relic
#

but i dont know if i wanna get rid of my beacon

next canopy
#

How come M+ is so dead?

#

Don't ppl want to run a key for next week lo

proud bough
#

The ones who care about that probably already have

sullen dove
#

what’s +1 level when it’s dropping by 11

#

the diff between like an 8 and a 9 next week who cares

young ether
#

is 2p2 any good upgrade? read something about the sims being weird because they simmed old 4p with new talents?

hardy shuttle
#

With it dropping by 11 it's pretty pointless unless you're doing 26s+. The next week key will be low enough to 3 chest and get up quickly

next canopy
#

But ppl telling me if you don't run a key this week you start with 0

rose cloud
#

Does anybody know how to get this tint for Helya's Gaze (from Legion Mage Tower)

proud bough
#

Even if you start with a +2, you'll still get the opportunity for an ilvl upgrade from the vault if you ONLY do the +2.

next canopy
half cargo
#

if you mean just the specific colour then disregard

#

i misread

rose cloud
#

I have the Helya's Gaze already. Did you mean tint is no longoer obtaninable too? @half cargo

golden hare
#

if you have the base you can get the tint pretty sure

rose cloud
#

Yea, but my problem is I couldn't find to requirement for unlock it

half cargo
#

weird that the page doesn't list it

#

all the other individual ones are specified

golden hare
#

go to skyhold with it equipped and go to the forge

#

should say the requirement there

sullen dove
#

If you don’t time a 26 this week

rose cloud
#

@golden hare I already did. No info. Just "No Longer Available"

golden hare
#

you don't have the base ?

rose cloud
#

I have

sullen dove
#

The base was from doing the challenge in legion

golden hare
#

what the

sullen dove
#

That is the mage tower one no?

half cargo
#

he broke the game

golden hare
#

yea

half cargo
#

gg

sullen dove
#

tf

golden hare
#

uhh

proud bough
golden hare
#

it's probably 10 rated bg wins

#

yea

final birch
sullen dove
#

yea I mean that was in reference to the other guy, if you can do a 26 you’ll try and do a 26 but it doesn’t rly matter

rose cloud
#

@proud bough Should I do that while use one of the Helya's Gaze appearance as tmog right?

sullen dove
#

it’s just like 2 or 3 extra keys you might have to do leveling it up next week

sullen dove
#

over doing just a 20

rose cloud
#

@golden hare I guess it is because I am pretty sure I did more than 10 RBG

proud bough
golden hare
#

do you have to log on the character you did mage tower on? peepostudy

proud bough
#

No

rose cloud
golden hare
#

yea i'm out of ideas then

rose cloud
#

@proud bough Yes, I won

proud bough
#

So I see

#

lol

golden hare
#

maybe a support ticket angle

proud bough
#

Did you do all 10 wins after unlocking the mage tower appearance (and within like.. the last expansion?)

next canopy
#

saying i get a 0

#

if no key ran this week

covert void
#

are you guys finding the 450 weapons to be an upgrade? sims are telling me it's not on a 447, and 441 ashkandur. Same enchant. It's haste mastery (winters stand) bit surprised.

golden hare
#

link

proud bough
rose cloud
#

@proud bough Yes, I got the achivement in DF

next canopy
proud bough
next canopy
#

I never saw in feed

golden hare
#

i am kinda certain i got it in DF

half cargo
#

I'd try redoing it with the weapon mogged

rose cloud
#

@proud bough I am researching. I will inform you if I find some source

dapper goblet
#

👨‍🦼

half cargo
#

🧎‍♂️

covert blaze
#

This website shows requirements

rose cloud
#

@proud bough You are right! I need to win 10 RBG https://youtu.be/9HD6O56DT3E

Important: My graphics card crashed once I started recording the Fury Warrior appearances, so I apologize if the lower resolution bothers you. Furthermore, I was editing the entire Arms Warriors part while knowing my laptop would be picked up for repairs any minute – I hope my stress doesn’t show too much. ^^’
Biggest shoutout to those who are s...

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golden hare
rose cloud
#

I will open a ticket. I already win 10 RBG

#

Thank you for your support

fickle bluff
#

did you do MT on a different warrior?

#

because the mogs are account wide

#

whereas the actual artifact skins themself arent

eternal sundial
#

Skins are as well

proud bough
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^ they updated those reqs a bit ago

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Like you can unlock Balance of Power skins on all your characters after doing it on only one character

golden hare
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thank god

rose cloud
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@fickle bluff I did with only one character

oblique trail
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nooo! I wanted to grind out balance of power on all of my characters!!!

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fuck!!!!

golden hare
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you can still do it!! :DDDD

desert cloud
oblique trail
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yippeee!!!!

proud bough
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Don't worry, you can just pay another $15 a month for a new account to grind it out the realy way

jagged patrol
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why the guides telling me to go Anni build when i sim 10k more on raidbots as the ravager build

oblique trail
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because you don't have the new tier set

jagged patrol
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ok should specify

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lol

compact knot
frosty karma
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whats that

oblique trail
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the event next to valdrakken

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happens every hour or so

compact knot
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out of valdrakken top of every hour

sullen dove
frosty karma
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storms fury?

sullen dove
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from this one

golden hare
proud bough
jovial coral
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Bro Erga

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smh

oblique trail
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hmm

frosty karma
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can you target that trinket or rng

covert blaze
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Warriors and reading

oblique trail
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not sure about until acquiring full t31 set bonus

golden hare
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smh

jagged patrol
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so im blind

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sorry

jovial coral
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Wtf don't leak my name 🥹

sullen dove
sleek zenith
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why tf is my damage red?

sleek zenith
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dont have any debuffs

oblique trail
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from steins gate

sullen dove
sleek zenith
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nope 0 debuffs

fickle bluff
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dstance?

sullen dove
jovial coral
sleek zenith
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wtf is steins gate

oblique trail
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weeb

jovial coral
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Maybe its from the new hero talent thing

narrow narwhal
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Time machine microwave anime

covert blaze
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Steins gate is goated

oblique trail
fading bane
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non nitro users, so he has to copy it and link it as a gif

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instead of emote

golden hare
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sorry for being poor my bad

jovial coral
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Poor?

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Lies

covert blaze
narrow narwhal
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:woo:

fading bane
serene vessel
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weeb emotes

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:cringe:

covert blaze
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I'd sugar daddy Erga but I'm also poor

fading geode
fickle bluff
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everything but MT

fading geode
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thats MT then i assume?

fickle bluff
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yes

sullen dove
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ngl arms mage tower was way better than fury

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fury is just like two colorful corn dogs on a stick

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Whereas arms was an actual like vrykul sword with the split down the middle

fading geode
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i miss my DK mogs

sullen dove
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that shits dope

covert blaze
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Imagine mogging anything that's not Taeshalach

golden hare
sullen dove
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why would that be a reason

covert blaze
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It's animated

sullen dove
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Or is animated emotes strictly nitro I feel like there’s no way that’s true

fading bane
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animated requires nitro

sullen dove
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Is this website actually that dogshit

oblique trail
golden hare
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"website"

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gg

covert blaze
sullen dove
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Whatever this is

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app

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You can open it in a web browser

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basically a website

fading geode
fading bane
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I pay monthly for my Ryan Gosling (me) to wink at you

oblique trail
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discord is chromium or w/e you call it

sullen dove
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da hell izzat

fickle bluff
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electron

fading bane
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chromium is basically

oblique trail
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I think you can bring up inspect element

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somehow

fading bane
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hopiums brother

covert blaze
oblique trail
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on discord