fury

[errant vessel]

yeah extremely niche situation

but not sure if it makes sense to refresh ashen if you only have 1 stack? Given that you're outside of execute phase and won't reach execute phase within 15 sec

in that very niche scenario as well

[oblique trail]

I don't know the actual mathematical answer, but getting as many empowered BBs into your spear is more important than refreshing a single Ashen stack outside of Execute

[iron portal]

Glad you are back to og pfp bane 👀

[oblique trail]

Is what I assume anyway

[oblique trail]

For now 🐀

[rotund ginkgo]

Did yall craft wrists already?

[oblique trail]

nop, waiting till raid week

[rotund ginkgo]

For after the raid or before?

[oblique trail]

Before raid, but just want to see if they'll do any final embellishment tuning

I'm in no hurry anyway

[errant vessel]

you're able to craft 1 486 item right

first raid week

[rotund ginkgo]

486 how

[oblique trail]

It's probably too late since they already gave out 1 spark, but you never know with Blizz

[lucid tiger]

thanks! am finally back to fury since a long while, hyped to raid

[tame yarrow]

Back to fury from arms?

[lucid tiger]

back to fury from windwalker

[oblique trail]

condolences

[lucid tiger]

i forgot how fun it is to min max few button specs instead of playing WW piano

[tame yarrow]

Thinking about arms vs fury atm

[plush flower]

fury>

[oblique trail]

First week of raid Arms might be ahead, but generally later into the season when you have more gear, they should be more even on paper

But it'll always come down to the fights and what else you're doing

[tame yarrow]

But will it be fun though 😄

[oblique trail]

I can't tell you

[tame yarrow]

Will try the RA build on puppet this weekend 🙂

[plush flower]

so dont craft anything until next week

[lucid tiger]

usually always like that

[oblique trail]

The RA/Annihilator build will play differently when you have the tier bonus

[lunar summit]

odins fury is gonna be so fucking sick

[plush flower]

what is priority craft or is it still up in the air

[tame yarrow]

Desyncing Avatar and Reck seems weird for me

[oblique trail]

You desync them at most with 4-5 seconds

[teal sable]

I can upgrade a weapon to 463, should I do it?

[tame yarrow]

OF is awesome though

[teal sable]

Are you guys playing with the exact same playstyle this week?

[lunar summit]

save your stones for next weeks gear unless you plan on raiding day 1 and min maxing for that first night

[oblique trail]

Until 2p yes

[errant vessel]

tbf coming fury build is prob harder to minmax than ww

[lucid tiger]

maybe, but atleast no faerie stomp

[errant vessel]

true

and no tiger statue

[feral quartz]

I wanna race change from female Orc to feel like I actually changed something this tier do I go Tauren or Troll fellas

[lucid tiger]

the saddest spec

[oblique trail]

the one you like the visuals of the most

neither are the highest simming spec anyway if that's what you really care about

[lucid tiger]

and I dont mind hard, but fury is so much more cohesive

[errant vessel]

true and factual

[feral quartz]

I need to figure out what kind of feet I prefer. And I want a higher simming one while staying horde I know human is bis

Feet

[oblique trail]

well to each their own

[feral quartz]

Tauren big af and I like troll attack animations. Might just go troll since I might full send arms when mythic prog starts

[lucid tiger]

imorph is bis if you can’t decide

[oblique trail]

monkatos

[lucid tiger]

dont know a single person to get banned for it in 10+years

[feral quartz]

I wish atomic recalibrator wasn’t a 12 hour cd

[lucid tiger]

rotate cd with guildies 👁👁

[feral quartz]

This is the way

[toxic junco]

which time warp trinket is the way to go?

[lunar summit]

mirror

[oblique trail]

Assuming you meant time rift, you can sim the trinkets with these codes in Top Gear

However they're unlikely to be much of an increase if you already have good trinkets from S2

#fury message

forgot the link

💀

[radiant coyote]

You think this build is going to be harder to play than the one we had this tier?

[oblique trail]

Harder? Don't think so no, but it'll be different to what people have played for a while so it'll take a bit for people to get used to it

It's more about weaving abilities rather than spamming

[summer quail]

Yes i think so. Still won't be difficult tho

[chrome summit]

how will aoe work now when ww have a CD btw? it works out?

[oblique trail]

The WW CD is hasted

And by the time you've spent 4 attacks, you can WW again

[chrome summit]

ah cool cool

and we just replace RB with slam? basically as RB is auto

[oblique trail]

Yes

[chrome summit]

is new fury less "hectic"?

[fickle bluff]

no

[chrome summit]

hmm good 😛 i like it being fast xD

[oblique trail]

It's probably gonna feel more hectic to some people since you're juggling abilities on CD instead of just spamming 1-2 buttons with the occasional 3rd

[naive beacon]

do wae just craft weapon with the new spark

[narrow narwhal]

No

Long answer: no

[serene stirrup]

whats the short answer?

[compact hollow]

no

[light stump]

any idea why human / void elf simming so high this patch?

Used to be Tauren/Dwarf on top, right?

(just curious, not going to change race for this)

[ancient badger]

will it be worth it to go 2p T30 / 2p T31 or should we wait full T31 to equip it and play around ?

[rustic obsidian]

gonna reach R10 on alt...main is not human either...is renown 18 doable until wednesday or should I wait for the anniversary buff?

[oblique trail]

ok sending a snapshot during lust + recklessness on pull

[clever belfry]

You need to get r10 on alt before dmf runs out
Then you need to do weeklies on main before dmf runs out
then you hold all tokens / upcoming weeklies for anni

[rustic obsidian]

can bash through campaign too right

[clever belfry]

Technically you lose a tiny bit, but it shouldn't matter

as in chapter 2 i think gives 2500 straight up, not a token

[rustic obsidian]

yeah I am farming fuckin seeds, as I have no human alt...missin 300rep... and WQ is bugged 😄 😄

[clever belfry]

Id knock it out with dmf so you don't have to waste time next week

no contracts for regular DF wqs?

[idle oriole]

All your reck windows are gonna enter this loop to some degree regardless of lust

[oblique trail]

And you have reck every 90 seconds

[clever belfry]

sometimes you'll get a starved global

[ancient badger]

have u done other WQs with contract ?

[oblique trail]

minus the procs

[idle oriole]

2/3 of the time you are purely pressing BB/Rampage

[clever belfry]

same with rb and ramp now

[oblique trail]

Sure it's still spammy, but to a lesser degree than before

[rustic obsidian]

yep 🙂

just some pet battle WQ not done

but thats a pain

[ancient badger]

same here xD

[clever belfry]

imo it feels less spammed cause u don't press the same button in a row as often + your rage bar is a lot less hectic for most of the fight (as u dont have 90% reck uptime)

[oblique trail]

Which is what I initially meant by it's more weaving instead of spamming

[clever belfry]

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

rude

[oblique trail]

[idle oriole]

Yea it varies based on what phase of the fight you are in and whether you are in excecute

[molten wing]

they should have added another support spec in 11.0

[idle oriole]

The weave aspect is solely outside of reck and excecute

[clever belfry]

which still is a majority of the fight

unless u get big lucky

u REALLY want wft tho

[idle oriole]

But this introduction of micro states in which your rotation and priority changes is a lot more complicated than last tier

[clever belfry]

makes it feel twice as smooth

[oblique trail]

Luckily I'll have 2 enhance shamans next tier

so we're bing chilling

[idle oriole]

I mean we are still sitting at 47% reck uptime

[clever belfry]

(+bläst)

[oblique trail]

47% is also a whole lot less than 90%+

[clever belfry]

And 35-0 is overrepresented in that uptime cause u got more rage to spend

but alas no reck, no exe may not be the majority of the fight then, but just like 45%

What a shame that i am a ljar

[idle oriole]

I doubt it since you prio excecute over ramp in sub 35%

[oblique trail]

Liar and a simp

[idle oriole]

So you get more rage but you also readily overcap

[clever belfry]

Still press more ramps

[idle oriole]

I do not think so but can not sim it right now

In excecute you at the very most rampage every third global

[hasty tree]

would love a warrior support spec where u scream at your group the whole time

[idle oriole]

Outside of tier set proccs

[clever belfry]

Which is more than outside reck outside exe

cause u literally dont gen the rage for it unless u proccd wft out of the wazoo

[idle oriole]

But less than inside reck outside of excecute

[toxic grove]

First week only loot from +11 right ?

[idle oriole]

Inside reck outside of execute you ideally rampage every other global

[oblique trail]

no, first week is loot from everything

This was changed going into Dragonflight

[toxic grove]

so +20 drops 470?

[oblique trail]

yes

[toxic grove]

Neat thanks

[fleet sorrel]

[clever belfry]

[oblique trail]

[steel shard]

https://tenor.com/view/swifty-bad-news-wo-w-warcraft-reallybadnews-gif-20257015

[narrow narwhal]

What is this new fangled emote from

[oblique trail]

This?

[toxic grove]

I cried at that video

[steel shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/790643719736524855/1171882776111366194/image0.gif?ex=655e4be2&is=654bd6e2&hm=dc55c7415f1f8e4e1ee117a723fd0c29f298fefb27662294ca83863f26603c72&

[oblique trail]

how did you know I am boogie

[steel shard]

the anime pfp

[narrow narwhal]

Yes

[oblique trail]

Genshin Impact

everyones favourite gacha game

[marble fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-meme-cringe-imagine-gif-23477312

[narrow narwhal]

Oh ok

My games RN are just wow and SF6. Idk how you gamers have the time for like 3 daily quest games

[oblique trail]

I don't play it, just know about it

Also no shot I am doing dailies on wow either

[narrow narwhal]

Good anime character

[oblique trail]

at least apart from the typical WQs etc

[narrow narwhal]

I will get the rune when I get the rune

[oblique trail]

you will not find me spending multiple hours doing every WQ with a contract

[steel shard]

just get an alt to rank 10

and then main to rank 9

macro all rep tokens together into 1 button

and boom

20

the echo way

[tardy lark]

Got fixed pretty fast

[tacit abyss]

Its global cd now

[steel shard]

cinda lame

alot of ppl abused it

abuse early and quick i quess

[narrow narwhal]

I will get the 0.3% increase when I get it

[eternal sundial]

You need a factorio type game

Load it up once every month

Accidentally spend 40 hours at once playing

Repeat

[narrow narwhal]

That's what I was doing with witcher 3 on my off days

I told my guild I'd be showing up every other week to heroic/normie mode because of work

[clever belfry]

🇨🇳 GLORY TO THE CCP 🇨🇳

[tardy lark]

[oblique trail]

[iron portal]

☠️

[wild mural]

cmon man i want the raid already

[narrow narwhal]

Sorry you gotta wait

[wild mural]

aaaaaaaaaaa

[narrow narwhal]

Grind some irl work like me

[rustic obsidian]

so we pump all with main chars...just leaving tokens for the anniversary?

[narrow narwhal]

If you have the time, I have noticed that people get to 10 on an alt, get to 9 on their main and hold all the tokens waiting for the anniversary buff

[rustic obsidian]

i have done the alt 🙂 just wondering if 18 is doable before wednesday

[keen dove]

It is if u farm seeds for 20+ hours

If u don’t want to then wait

Anniversary

[dry fable]

Does anyone know if you use Avatar with Titans Torment talented and use Odyns Fury afterwards, do you get 6 stacks of the new 2 set?

[clever belfry]

you do yes

[dry fable]

oki nice, ty

[storm meadow]

Stupid question : Does the S3 talent build recommended with T31 still slaps with T30 in MM+ ? (I wonder if I can start adapting towards the new rotation now)

[oblique trail]

No, the S3 talents are bad for the current tier gear

[cerulean bronze]

Hi everyone,
Why do we want to craft Shadowflame (on cloak/bracers) than the neck Elemental Lariat.
Does the dmg of shadowflame is higher than the proc of 500~ secondary stat (with uptime of 15-20%) ?

[oblique trail]

You want to craft the Allied Versa wrists first together with Shadowflame, or the Frostfire legs if you're only going to play M+

Lariat is bad early on when you have few sockets, and is first when you're more geared with full sockets

[wild mural]

getting there

[warm crag]

ramper

[wild mural]

soon i will be a big boye

[cerulean bronze]

Oh, so in few months people will all socket, would prefer to go lariat than shadowflame (to extend the duration of the proc of lariat, is that correct) ?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[cerulean bronze]

Thanks for the answer :)

[tidal mirage]

How much higher ilvl does my weapon have to be before I ditch Ashkandur?

[wild mural]

soon no more kaching

[gray osprey]

Depends 441 or 450 Ash?

Also, just sim it

[tidal mirage]

Just a 441

[gray osprey]

454 weapon from Gnarlroot should be higher, but check with the sim first

[tidal mirage]

This is the way

[tidal mirage]

Right, thanks. I just didn’t want to assume I’d be lucky with drops. This is my first time being decently geared going straight into the next season.

[wild mural]

there was only 1 legit option from the dream infusion

[desert cloud]

so is haste now bad for fury in S3 ?

[summer quail]

ofc not

[stuck bison]

Is there a any reason to save 90 drake crests for next week or if i find a good item i upgrade it to 463? Sorry if it is a dumb question

[next mica]

Haste was already softcaping last s

[desert cloud]

well the wowhead guide

says so

it's lowest prio below crit

[summer quail]

it does not say haste is bad

[desert cloud]

i'm i blind or smtjing

[next mica]

Higher ilvl=higher stats=you achieve haste caps easier

=you can put stats elsewere

[desert cloud]

so we still wanna keep up the 30% haste right ?

[desert cloud]

i ain't reading allat bro

[next mica]

You want to keep what sims higher

[summer quail]

sim, trust the robot

[winged tartan]

hey my warrior is pretty low since i skipped s2 almost entirely. any tips to gear this mofo

https://www.wowhead.com/list=208518132/eu-burning-legion-klamerawar

[desert cloud]

do rift and dreamsurge t oupgarde to 450

then turn them into tier set

[winged tartan]

can we still catalyst previous sets?

[desert cloud]

by next week u'll have full 450 tier 4set

yu

i just did it 1 hour ago

[wild mural]

yeah did these on weds

[winged tartan]

does it take a lot of time? gonna be able to play on monday

dont know if can make it in time before reset

[wild mural]

nah campaign took me like 45 mins

[winged tartan]

ohh the rifts and dreamsurge are campaings? thought they are events like superbloom or smth

gonna read on that

[wild mural]

I mean, superbloom takes 10 mins

dreamsurge isn't part of 10.2

[winged tartan]

and should i craft the wrists or wait for second spark to get 2h wep? gonna try and pug some normals but dont know how it will go

[next mica]

Id start with wrist and cloak

[winged tartan]

it says on wowhead that dreamsurge items are 415, did they raise it in 10.2?

[oblique trail]

yes, both dreamsurge and time rift items were increased

[winged tartan]

sweet, gonna get that on monday

are there any wep to get there? since both my ashkandur and crafted sword are 424

[wild mural]

yeah I got this

[rustic obsidian]

is it like that even if not human? 😄

[serene moat]

Do rifts an dreamsurges drop adventurer gear that's legit for s2 catalyst?

[errant vessel]

Have all rare drops increased in ilvl or is it only the rares in Emerald Dream?

[rustic obsidian]

whats the ilvl from rares in the dream?

[errant vessel]

Not sure just know they drop stuff that’s on the updated ilvl tracks

[fading bane]

assume u get the veteran gear or what its called

[wild mural]

424 hu

[fading bane]

which goes to 437

[wild mural]

adventurer goes to 450, veteran goes to 463, idk about after that

[fading bane]

i dont remember names

[gray osprey]

Champ 476, Heroic 483, Mythic 489

[fading bane]

adventurer goes to 450

i assume u get that from rares

[serene moat]

But can you transform those drops into s2 set?

Doesn't make any sense

[wild mural]

No

you can't

[fading bane]

any item that drops in emerald dream is a s3 item

so it will be made to t31

[wild mural]

fuckin worth it baby

[fickle wyvern]

With the annihilator build, is it worth to overcap rage to weave in bloodbaths? or do we rampage back to back?

[serene moat]

So you cannot make 450 4p next week without raid drops. As started above.

Neither t30 nor t31

[fading bane]

you get 2pc next week for free

2k score / AOTC + Catalyst

[fading bane]

you always spend ur bloodbath

so yes, overcap if needed to cast it before ramp

[fickle wyvern]

thank you

[serene moat]

Yes, 2p, not 4p

[fading bane]

for 4pc u need to get from raid

[serene moat]

But that has nothing to do with farming adventurer gear this week

[fading bane]

nop

[serene moat]

So the statement above was trap. Ty

[fading bane]

adventurer gear gets instareplaced anyway

can farm if u got nothing else in life to do

[serene moat]

Catch-up for low gear twinks at least

[fading bane]

i boosted a shaman, and i spend this week gearing it a bit rather than degen seed shit

[rustic obsidian]

could anyone confirm or not....if done R10 alt... dont have main human.... is it doable with contract etc...and dmf...to just use all the tokens to get 18 before wed night raid...or do we have to wait for the anniversary?

its only 9% more

[grim thicket]

Im currently 16 on my main so yes it is doable

[rustic obsidian]

u not human? and u slammed all tokens in?

[grim thicket]

Im horde on both, got alt to 10.
Then went main and when I was about 100 rep from renown 10 I slammed a 2.5k token which put me at 12 immediately

That’s the only thing you need to do and you should be fine

[rustic obsidian]

why using the 2.5k token before 10?

[grim thicket]

Cuz then the whole 2.5k gets doubled

[rustic obsidian]

after 10 it wont? 😄

[grim thicket]

The 100% rep bonus is coded in a weird way so a token gets the whole benefit even if it surpasses 10

As long as you are not 10 when slammed

[hard widget]

You need to get an alt to 10. Then on ur main get to 9 renown and as close to 2500 as possible. Then u use the 2.5k token with darkmoon buff and u'll get the full double

[rustic obsidian]

ok thats a weird bug or coding

😄

thanks

[hard widget]

Its not a bug

[grim thicket]

Just shit coding from blizz

[rustic obsidian]

and afterwards...I can slam all the others in?

[grim thicket]

Yeah just slam the rest

[rustic obsidian]

or should I slam them before 10 too

ok

[wild mural]

At renown 11 you get to touch grass

[grim thicket]

As long as you don’t accidentally surpass 10 when slamming random shit

[hard widget]

It doesnt matter, the only thing u can do is use the 2.5k token at 9 renown as close to 10 as possible. The rep u need in total wont change so

Unless u want to use them with anniversary buff next week thursday

Then u save ur stuff till that

[rustic obsidian]

would like to be prepared on wed so

have to do it this way

[hard widget]

Well enjoy playing farmville then

[grim thicket]

It’s not too bad with seeds anymore

[hard widget]

Averaging 200 rep an hour not too bad?

[grim thicket]

Daily rares is 250 rep which is about 1.5k every week

I haven’t done seeds on my main at all and I’m 16

[wild mural]

Im never gonna get the augment rune tbh

[grim thicket]

Except for the 5 weekly ofc

[shy knot]

This patch has solid 2hrs of content

[rancid ermine]

How in the hell is everyone getting renown so quickly?

[hard widget]

They get 10 on an alt to have 100% extra rep gains on main till lvl 10

[rancid ermine]

I am at 5 so far

[hard widget]

Then use a 2.5k token right before 10 for a big boost

• darkmoon buff

[rancid ermine]

Ah

[hard widget]

And after that its farming seeds for rep, wq's and daily rares

[rancid ermine]

Thank you

[shy knot]

Cant you just buy the rune atm on ah?

[tardy lark]

Nah you could do some shenanigans popping all the tokens at once for 200% rep on all of them after grinding the rep on alt

Got fixed in a couple of hours

[hard widget]

U can buy augment runes on AH but the one u get from rep is infinite. And at 20 you get a crest for upgrading a crafted piece to 476

[shy knot]

You will get that stuff naturally week1 tho right ?

[hard widget]

U wont get 18 renown naturally week one

[shy knot]

On raid release

[hard widget]

Unless u coordinate

[modest condor]

yeah this whole rep farm is a huge waste of time and people are degenning over nothing imo

99% of people will get the rune well before they hit their first dps check even if they just log on daily for like an hour

[fading bane]

they made rep so much faster to get

if u do it weekly

with the seeds giving bonus rep for first 5 of the week

[lavish grove]

[shy knot]

Forbidden reach felt larger

[lavish grove]

It was larger

Bcuz of vault or whatever

Where you use keys from rares

[fading sky]

15 3/4 on main cba to do more

[lavish grove]

5 renown, cba grind on my alt, just waiting for the anniversary to use my tokens

[shell trellis]

anyone knows exactly how Touching grass works at 11 renown?

[lavish grove]

Ban in wow

[fast mural]

wdym 89 mainstats for normal and heroic is important

[desert cloud]

wtf are u talking abt

i literally just catalysted 2 450 items

like an hour ago

to T30

[fast mural]

and next week you get 2 more

[desert cloud]

y

[fast mural]

unless you have the 450 pieces from echo/sark

i bought 450 trinket

[desert cloud]

y if u have a guild u can just get the other 450 that aren't available in raid

to be fully 450 by next week

[fast mural]

im probably not gonna go for helmet or pants either cause the leg enchant is expensive and my helmet has a socket

[willow cradle]

That was my exact thought, although some people enjoy that grind regardless.

[rigid stirrup]

And that there isn't jack shit to do rn

What is this that I'm reading about 450 catalyst

For the previous tier

[fast mural]

thats 2 weeklies

dreamsuirge and time rifts

only costs whelpling crests to get them to 450

[willow cradle]

I do the daily stuff and then go play something else, I don't feel like the early grind is worth it when my guild isn't that close to HOF and I'm going to gain so much more next week via m+ and raid

[rigid stirrup]

Thx bb

[heady wedge]

is any of the time rift trinkets good for fury ?

[fast mural]

fragment of shalamayne simmed the best for me but sim it yourself just in case

[heady wedge]

where is that one? cant see it

nvm found it

[unreal pollen]

Hello, would there be a war fury fr to explain a little about the changes for 10.2 please? 🙂

[dense elbow]

This is a English speaking server. Sorry, could you please translate and then ask again?

Sounds like you want 10.2 explained. It is in the pins

[fading bane]

bonjour

[sour iron]

so when you guys get 4p you go to the 'weird' build?

[winged tartan]

bonjour

[willow cradle]

Allô, le guide sur wowhead et très bon

[winged tartan]

bonjour too

[unreal pollen]

😍 thx

[pearl cradle]

hi guys so i dont have any legendary yet and im doing some gear catch up because i didnt play 10.1 should i make my wrist now 463 or should i wait

the companionship bracers sorry

[plucky ice]

can upgrade it later, doesn't matter much

[dense elbow]

Wait, also wrist is prob a crafting spot

[solemn plover]

Hi banezi

[pearl cradle]

oh isnt like allied wristguard of companionship the bis?

[fading bane]

yes

[pearl cradle]

wait im a noob sorry be patient with me lol so max item level for this is 483? how does that happen it only says 463

[dense elbow]

Read make as upgrading a world item still, just hold if you are not going to push into the raid

Let the world first ppl chose and then see how it pans out

[meager void]

I would wait because I'm sure they gonna throw a banana on the room with the gear balancing monkeys before tuesday

this monday, we were all gonna craft sporecloak

on tuesday, the monkeys went apeshit and its no longer the case

[plucky ice]

Spore belongs in the trash

[dense elbow]

RIP sporecloak, it got dragged through the streets by the neck

[plucky ice]

I'm glad it's gone and won't forgive bad play anymore

[meager void]

but i wanna play badly

[dense elbow]

You call it bad play, I call it last man standing

[plucky ice]

xdd

ppl used it and they still were the first ones to die

[meager void]

preach

[plucky ice]

that's a monka

[burnt stone]

Hi brothers, I suddenly have a question while watching APL.

• charge,if=time<=0.5|movement.distance>5

Can I interpret "time<=0.5" to mean less than 0.5 seconds before the battle starts?

[meager void]

the first few moments

i had the same question

I read that as within 0.5s of battle starting, if you are over 5y away, you charge

[serene moat]

Where did u get those 2 450 pieces from?

[fading bane]

from s2

[burnt stone]

charge,if=time<=0.5|movement.distance>5

"|" Isn't this OR, not AND?

[patent basin]

Hey guys I’m coming back from a pretty large break. Been playing on and off since SL but nothing consistent. The new patch so far seems fun are there any guides out there that can show me some direction on what to expect for fury warriors for 10.2 that go over different builds for m+ and raid?

[meager void]

had the exact question as well. The rest of the APL suggests its an AND but I never confirmed

[silk ridge]

If only there was a channel for guides resources and FAQs

[serene moat]

Well, he just have his 2 cent without reading the whole conversation. Nothing to do with what we said

[fading bane]

always gon happen

[patent basin]

I obviously can’t read that’s why I’m asking. I see it now just above the channel

[silk ridge]

🫡

[coarse nest]

Hello fello non reader

[burnt stone]

I'm curious about this conditional "if=time<=0.5".

Do you mean 0.5 seconds after the battle starts?

Because there is a similar APL in DH.

"the_hunt,if=time<10&buff.potion.up"

I am confused as to whether Hunt can be interpreted as telling you to cast the potion buff within 10 seconds of starting the battle.

[serene moat]

True. Anyways, I don't like ppl spreading misinformation.

[fading bane]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[meager void]

lemme delve deeper, 1s

[patent basin]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/face-keyboard-slam-angry-rage-gif-5303652

[iron portal]

oh no

Gif apocalypse again

[coarse nest]

non reader gaming pov

[burnt stone]

[meager void]

I was wrong. The | is an OR most likely.
Don't know about the DH APL but I bet there has to be a line for "cast the potion buff" at battle start.
Which would mean that yes, you should cast hunt within the first 10secs but only if the potion buff is up.

[burnt stone]

thanks bro

[meager void]

but if the | is an OR this line is indeed kinda funky.

shouldnt be problematic but it does mean it tries to cast charge even if the distance is less than 5y

it tries and fails, so no issue.

[burnt stone]

To be precise, it is logical that charge should be made when the distance to the target is 5 or more within 0.5 seconds of the battle time, but there is no problem with the operation.

[oblique trail]

Hi boose the e-girl

[modest condor]

| means OR, that line just tells you to use charge either on pull or when a target is more than 5 yards away (for sims with movement)

[solemn plover]

yippeee!

[sage smelt]

If you truly wanted to min/max - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpskL-KYxFU&t=114s

[wild mural]

egirls, catgirls, whats next

[sage smelt]

before raid reset next week

[late cape]

Will there even be enough whelpling crests for that?

[long nimbus]

Single Minded Fury is next

[sage smelt]

according to the video 2 pieces this week, 2 next so yes?

[late cape]

Well this week we get a lot of one-time whelpling crests but next week we only get an additional 90 right?

[left perch]

Easily

Idk if it would be a min/max thing, more value for alt catch up

If you’re competitive, you’re probably not doing this because crest upgrade is more valuable

[wild mural]

gotta get those day 1 100's

[late cape]

Crest upgrade eats into the upper crests cap anyway this time around though right?

[gilded pawn]

Yeah this just means “opener”

[long nimbus]

What about the day 1 lazies? Day one, I do nothing and fall behind then quit the game and blame the devs.

[left perch]

(Not locked in)

[left perch]

Yea

[wild mural]

[eternal sundial]

Womenmen

Feminine boys

[wild mural]

me irl

[meager void]

ooh I get it now. thx silm

[wild mural]

I love the new moonkin model

[left perch]

does it kind of look like the blizzard yeti outfit thing?

i think i saw one in game briefly

[rose cloud]

Wth is this bug 😄

I guess because lag spike

[rotund ginkgo]

my guildie sent a really weird chart about which class benefits the most from 4p within the zenith family (monk/rogue/evo/warr)

so i fixed it for him

what yall think?

[late cape]

Why are there Arms warriors in this example for the fury warrior chat

[rotund ginkgo]

SOMETIMES we try arms just to further understand how superior we are to them

so i thought it'd be included

i dabble in arms every now and again to remind myself to not do it

whos logging in to tend to their garden today?

[meager void]

this looks roidstack level wrong

[rotund ginkgo]

idk

[eternal sundial]

reread what u said

this is info on t30 4p vs 2p2p

which doesnt say SHIT about how much you benefit from 4p

[wild mural]

my ladygarden

dodgy take alert

[languid estuary]

hey guys, simming 111k, hitting 90k on raid dummy ST, any common mistakes I may be making? Taking a quick break from arms while they (hopefully) fix the spec

[frank dawn]

you don't have any raid buffs/lust/etc on the target dummy

unless you specifically turned all of that off in the sim

[languid estuary]

I didn't, I'll re-sim now

Ahh perfect, simming for 93k so that's pretty much on the mark

[rotund ginkgo]

phil i made a joke

should i grab a tierset item from time rift or should i grab the shiny trinket?

[eternal sundial]

# Time Rift Trinkets
# Paracausal Fragment of Thunderfin Humid Blade of the Tideseeker (450)
# trinket1=,id=207005,ilevel=450
#
# Paracausal Fragment of Doomhammer (450)
# trinket1=,id=206964,ilevel=450
#
# Paracausal Fragment of Sulfuras (450)
# trinket1=,id=206956,ilevel=450
#
# Paracausal Fragment of Azzinoth (450)
# trinket1=,id=206972,ilevel=450
#
# Paracausal Fragment of Frostmourne (450)
# trinket1=,id=206983,ilevel=450``` use this ye

for trinkets

[rotund ginkgo]

should i grab trinkie or should i grab a tierset item though

[eternal sundial]

sim it I guess?

[dense elbow]

Answer is yes

[languid estuary]

I just realised I've made a bit of an error and am using the wrong talents (As Icy veins has talents listed for S3 tier set) Where can I find the best talent trees for S2 set

[dense elbow]

Prob still in the pins, scroll a bit down and find 10.2 guide

[languid estuary]

(sorry if it's already pinned here, I can't find anything)

[dense elbow]

If not warcraftlogs it

Just copy te build from top on the boss or m+ dung you going to do

[rotund ginkgo]

😢

[rotund ginkgo]

so ill sim two 450 tierset vs a 450 trinkie

ait

no need i guess @eternal sundial

[gusty compass]

Shalamayne or Azzinoth trinket to buy and craft 450, what do you guys reccomend?

[hoary cove]

does anyone have a 10.2 warrior spreadsheet for bis drops?

[thorny peak]

Time rifts gives 450 gear?

[devout grove]

Do i use Avatar or OF first in an opener?

[gusty compass]

Yes, you can buy item and craft it to 450

[slim pollen]

Both dreamsurge and time rift weekly reward currency gets you 428 items uppgradeable to 450 🙂

[meager void]

i wouldnt use crests for those tho

a 9key will drop 454

[paper temple]

There's practically no other use for whelp crests

[oak crest]

wow a 437 green shalamyane trinket beats my 447 Vial

[icy vine]

i thought crests can be upgraded upwards now once they can longer be used to upgrade gear

[paper temple]

It still counts towards the max apparently

[strange panther]

The endless chase for new when stuff becomes obsolete.

[meager void]

Im on 100% on how this works tbh. But I'm playing it safe till next week at least.

[sullen basin]

sim is telling me to use double sophic devotion should i trust that

[strange panther]

Robot knows.

[strong tusk]

how long does it take for annihilator to feel right

im having a tough time lol

[rigid stirrup]

it felt alright once i stopped pressing q and e

[olive wraith]

Are you just going for the rotation or actually looking at damage rn

[modest condor]

you're not supposed to play annihilator without the new tierset

[strong tusk]

i was just gooing to rotation but it prolly feels bad cuz im playing it without any tier

fresh 70

dingus

[modest condor]

well the rotation itself wont change much i guess

[olive wraith]

What’s the issue

[modest condor]

you'll just press OF more often

[strong tusk]

seems much slower than before idk maybe im nuts

[olive wraith]

Also what’s your haste at

Are you able to bt every other gcd

[modest condor]

well yes

you need deft to get to anni in the first place

[olive wraith]

Is bt not hasted

[clever belfry]

it is

the flat reduction applies before haste

[oblique trail]

[olive wraith]

Not sure how much haste you need to hit it every other gcd

[modest condor]

0

[olive wraith]

Well that’s good

Then probably a rotational issue

[glass kelp]

Guys what oes T30 stand for ?

[modest condor]

tier 30

the setbonus from abberus

[serene vessel]

its crazy to think we've had 30 tier sets at this point

i feel old

I still remember trying to complete my t2 set

[dark flower]

When else will you ever be using whelpling crests bro lol

[meager void]

and simming for the 3ilvl difference while using t30 on the T31 APL is surely gonna bring up funky results

[olive wraith]

Could also use whelp to upgrade into drake or Wyrm

Whatever the next one up is

[modest condor]

the APL should work with t30

[meager void]

funky in the sense that its gonna suggests upgrades that might not be so when 2pc-2pc is achieved

tbf, its also a matter of opportunity

this is the one item Ive got to sim for.

and Im almost sure that the extras from 3ilvl wont make a difference when loosing all that mastery from crafted 447

[hollow glen]

Fully juice it and regem?

[regal falcon]

For crafted gear is the piece of armor the allied bracers the best thing to craft for now?

[meager void]

for now. But (and I know I'm insistent on this) wait a bit.

[regal falcon]

Fair enough

[gusty compass]

Whelp crest you can use

keep Drake crest for M+

Whelp crest you will get it just playing the game.

[clever path]

is anyone having the dryad fire drill ,WQ just not actually happening? no fires, no drenching orb, nothing, yet it still pops up?

[opaque stump]

bugged, look in group finder for people sharing a working phase

[strong tusk]

how does fury look in competing in dps with Ret this season in aoe

[candid falcon]

quick question, what is the "shadowflame cloak"

[covert blaze]

a crafted cloak with a shadowflame embellishment on it

[candid falcon]

cool

[manic kettle]

When you quest out in the world and do stuff there, do you use a mythic+ or raid talent build?

[ocean thistle]

Not worth breaking our current 4 set I assume till we get new 2set at a min?

[candid falcon]

m+ usually

[manic kettle]

alrighty thanks!

[jolly mist]

I see in the pins that we don’t shift build/rotation til we get T31. Is that until we get 2 or 4 pc. Also seconding the question about when it’s worth breaking our current tier.

[fading bane]

2pc u swap

its worth breaking current tier when u get 2pc

[lyric wagon]

where's the best place submit feedback on wowhead or icyveins guides if we find a bug or outdated info?

[sleek zenith]

how is fury ST to utter garbage atm :((

my arms sims like 12k higher without bis stats

[fading sky]

Well fury sims above arms in new tier

[sleek zenith]

ye but thats once you have 4set right?

[fading sky]

Also arms responds better to split stats

[sleek zenith]

with the current tier set i have my feral druid guildie simming 152k while im at 132

[acoustic seal]

arms was also buffed pretty substantially to offset some stuff fwiw.

[fading sky]

So saying u sim higher in arms may have seb reasoms

Like how much crit u have?

[sleek zenith]

like 23% i think

between 23-27% depending on what items i swap in

but my warrior guildie had the exact same his arms also simmed like 11k higher then fury

[urban nimbus]

Was wondering, are the benefits of the legendary weapon that warriors can use out yet?

Or is it encrypted and hidden still?

[jade ocean]

still hidden

[urban nimbus]

How can furry use 2 hand weapons btw. I thought fury was one handed weapons.

[jade ocean]

So many time ago

[serene vessel]

I've seen a lot of stuff where furry needs 2 hands to wield somethging

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok, got it now.

[agile kestrel]

is it worth do craft wrists this id?

[covert blaze]

[fast mural]

finally

[indigo quarry]

thats big news

blizzard making us reroll even more

[winter shoal]

If this is retroactive that's giga

[left perch]

Thank guck

[vale reef]

poggers

[clever belfry]

balls

[spiral night]

Its a trap

[winter shoal]

You can get free 450 t30 helm

https://youtu.be/vpskL-KYxFU?si=O1v8W9JT7C5XRY9N

With a socket if you have the vault token things

[vale reef]

yeah, the ilvl isn't special just funny it proc'd socket/avoidance

[wild mural]

new warrior race

[fleet epoch]

Bee-trayer

[ember apex]

do u keep that form in combat

[winter shoal]

New xmog LOGIN

[wild mural]

i dunno but you cant use your spells

[ember apex]

what about my abilities

idc too much about spells

[wild mural]

thats what i mean

[ember apex]

thats what you mean thats what i was saying

[wild mural]

you get some special bee abilities

you can't hit things

[ember apex]

oh i thought it was a toy

ill stick to being a big naga for 2minutes

or the furlbog toy

[wild mural]

I think I've completed every quest in the emerald dream

💀

[ember apex]

you love that zone huh

[wild mural]

its aight

[ember apex]

are u gonna get a poster

little displate action

[wild mural]

noi

[ember apex]

i thought u said u were moving ur family portrait from above the fireplace w/ an emerald dream displate

[wild mural]

they did not have to make it so thicc

[rigid stirrup]

gyatt

[ember apex]

i remember when u swapped the picture of u and ur GF together to a screen shot of Vashj'ir when cata came out. u were like "i friggin love thise zone"

[wild mural]

huh

[ember apex]

sry

[winter shoal]

Carlo stays :chatting:

[ember apex]

this* zone

[wild mural]

[arctic portal]

Is there a save first craft for fury? Versa wrists maybe? 👀

For m+ ☝🏻

[gilded pawn]

thats safe

[sleek meteor]

Hi guys, I have not played since the release of dragonflight, I have returned now to raid in 10.2. When I raided at the beginning I created some jewelry items like the elemental lariat and was very op. no longer worth upgrading them to current level? I do not see in any guide that mentions neither the necklace nor the jewelry rings.

[ember apex]

gear ur character and start doing the new raid content before u decide what to craft

lariat will be good later in the patch

when u have more sockets

rn allied wrists look kinda pog but we wont know

they nerfed all the good shit

[left perch]

its a vehicle

[ember apex]

they need to make that a toy

[left perch]

agree

[ember apex]

and let me do 1 pull every hour as a bee or something

naga is good. only lasts 2 mins but its up every 20min

[sleek meteor]

thanks carlo, I will wait for more progress on the patch before creating anything.

[ember apex]

i go naga > furlbog > the maw tormentor guy > the undead doctor

[steep fable]

Is there any info available regarding the new rotation priority?

[ember apex]

yeah save ur sparks and it will be clear after a week or so

wowhead guides are WiP if that's what ur asking

[steep fable]

yeah, this....thanks for the info - cheers

[ember apex]

what i do is i look at top performing logs for specific fights and look at abilities timeline

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[devout maple]

anything safe to say on what to craft with first spark? or just wait for further tuning?

[young swan]

just wait until tuesday/wed

no reason to craft now when they could just nerf shit for fun

or buff shit for fun

[devout maple]

yeah that's what i thought

[clever path]

The least angry fury warrior

[devout maple]

after what they did to sporecloak haha

[past pivot]

No it’s not. Or else you wouldn’t have asked. But no harm. Also, be sure to keep checking the pins. You’ll see updated recommendations and advice there early in the patch.

[young swan]

also rip to anyone spending crests this week when u can trade up xd

[fickle bluff]

counts towards cap though so not the end of the world

[fast mural]

trade up is basically useless

[clever path]

Trade up is for like if you need like one or two levels at most

[devout maple]

of course i thought of it. but just wanted to hear another opinion on that. but yeah i'll check the pins and wont cause any other spam lol

[clever path]

Or if you're like missing two crests

[fast mural]

its when you dont want to do a dungeon to get wyrm crests so you just trade drake ones up

if it counts towards the cap it litteraly doesnt matter since you cap everything anyway

[young swan]

you're fine axekandi is just weird

always says shit like that

[past pivot]

Yeah. Always says shit like check the pins.

[young swan]

shit like implying he didnt actually think something because he was seeking reassurance

[past pivot]

I said lol. It was trying to be funny. Have a sense of humor for god’s sake.

[young swan]

weird i dont see the word lol

[dapper goblet]

👨‍🦼

[indigo quarry]

you going place !

he got an upgrade

[wild mural]

he do be zoomin

[cyan heron]

Anyone mess with the time rift trinkets??

[pastel flax]

With no tier set, is the Anger Management build or the Storm of Swords generally better to run, or is it sort of a wash regardless?

[modest condor]

AM

[chrome plover]

cant you see that's a bloody hilarious joke
🤣🤣💯

[wild mural]

y are u so funny tho

[red yew]

Lord forgive me for what I'm about to do

[jolly mist]

Just got a chance to check my phone. Tyvm!

[oblique trail]

[mossy fox]

[covert blaze]

[onyx fox]

[dire badge]

[left perch]

It’s weird those are out of sync

[coarse nest]

[left perch]

Oh only daze is

come on daze

[dire badge]

ban vhys in tmy and here for breaking the train

[coarse nest]

[left perch]

[onyx fox]

I’m on mobile sorry

[eternal sundial]

will do

[red yew]

[indigo quarry]

the weebiest emote in skyhold

who's idea was it ?

[graceful plinth]

[oblique trail]

[fading bane]

prob Vil

[oblique trail]

Vils

[wild mural]

truly

[coarse nest]

Is it a good or bad thing if I don’t recognize where the emote is from

[rotund steppe]

why we all wooing

[coarse nest]

[rotund steppe]

[wild mural]

how can you hate smf

[rotund steppe]

they are not the warrior way

[wild mural]

so this is all vendor trash now

[rotund steppe]

yeah

[wild mural]

yes they are you're just a heathen

[rotund steppe]

D:

[jolly mist]

I have one thing to add

[wild mural]

gaming

[jolly mist]

(Jk I don’t have nitro and can’t Woo)

[rotund steppe]

talk to me when u can carry anything bigger than a stick

[half cargo]

[rotund steppe]

[wild mural]

ask ur mum

[rotund steppe]

why bring my mommy into this

[livid lake]

[unreal onyx]

why don't I get sparks for the PvP weekly

(yes PvP is on)

[coarse nest]

Yo this undead kinda badass bro ngl

[solemn plover]

@oblique trail hey man ive been comparing DH to fury and im considering swapping to DH is there places where fury does better?

[oblique trail]

no fury is f tier sorry to tell you

time to give up on brown class

only place it does better is in the bin

[solemn plover]

so i go purple class?

[coarse nest]

If you play the worse spec you’ll parse higher since no one else plays it

[oblique trail]

[coarse nest]

🧠

[solemn plover]

[desert cloud]

warriors are viable

[indigo quarry]

always are

[wild mural]

I know that set looks so good on undead

[shadow flame]

@mossy fox how is your warrior feeling this tier

[desert cloud]

🤓👆

Play whatever is fun

[meager void]

are you in the dream?

[unreal onyx]

yes

[solemn widget]

is fury opener for ST pinned anywhere?

[meager void]

you get em from killing players and for those mobs within the Frenzy

not sure if somewhere else too

[meager void]

its pinned in wowhead.com and icyveins.com

[mossy fox]

same as usual

it's a warrior

[winter shoal]

reck > charge > ramp > OF > bb > repeat until OF dot falls off > avatar + roar/spear + pot > into normal rotation

[solemn widget]

is that T30 opener or T31 Opener?

[winter shoal]

t31

t30 doesn't use OF

[solemn widget]

is the T30 opener pinned anywhere my b

[winter shoal]

Oh yeah that'd probably be on wowhead but it should be
reck > charge + rav (I use @pulsar wing and press when my charge is almost over) > ava + pot > ramp > roar/spear > ramp > regular rotation from there

[solemn widget]

thank you

[winter shoal]

They fixed the berserker's torment bug so it's basically just pop your cds and blast

Oh I forgot rav in there my b

[jolly mist]

The reason you don’t spam avatar at the start is to double dip the OF DoT, right?

I haven’t played that build in a minute

And I’m trying to 🧠

[oblique trail]

that opener is for t30

not t31

t31 is when you use Odyns Fury

[jovial light]

His first opener was t1

31*

[jolly mist]

Right

[jovial light]

and the second one is current opener

[oblique trail]

oh sorry

extremely tired rn

[winter shoal]

Not sure exactly what you mean by double dip but I think the idea is correct, you OF first so you can get the advantage of the cdr, then avatar when OF bleed is off and dancing blades duration has ticked somewhat (it should be 4ish seconds left by the time you press ava)

[oblique trail]

this opener is giga scuffed though

[jolly mist]

Double dip as in not overwrite the first dot with your avatar OF

[static bison]

can u get old tier now? with catalyst?

[oblique trail]

you are wasting 3 set bonus empowered BBs outside of Spear

[winter shoal]

How so? You get set bonus stacks from Ava

[oblique trail]

and unless you're using titanic rage, that OF isn't enraged

[winter shoal]

I play roar anyways so /shrug

[oblique trail]

read what I wrote

[jovial light]

Remember it is avatar that triggers OF

[winter shoal]

That's true my b, should be rampage first

[oblique trail]

And what I mean is that with that opener, the OF you hard cast gives you 3 empowered BBs that aren't buffed by Spear

[jolly mist]

How are we feeling about the fluidity of Fury rotation with T31? I hated the storm of swords build early in DF, but with the CDR on OF it might feel totally different

[oblique trail]

They have slightly lowered the CD of Slam when specced into SoS

But generally you'll rarely have any downtime atm

[jovial light]

I've had no downtime

[jolly mist]

Pressing slam

[winter shoal]

There's no downtime unless you fuck it up

[oblique trail]

what's different to pressing slam compared to rb

they both do the same thing

[jolly mist]

I don’t inherently hate slam, I just loved how many stacks of RB we always had

With the cooldown of slam reduced

The OF CDR from tier, and generally more haste than we had early DF, it sounds like all my issues with the build will be gone

[oblique trail]

It's generally a pretty fluid playstyle when you get the hang of it

Though pray you get a Windfury totem

Since it'll make a very noticeable difference

[jolly mist]

True AA’s matter even more with this build

[winter shoal]

Sim sheet says 9k dps / 4%

[warm crag]

why would you

rogues exist

[oblique trail]

I will because 2 windfury givers exist in my coming raid party

[warm crag]

i will sleep soon

[oblique trail]

I will simply extort them

[late night]

hello what are the best parts of the T31? plz

[oblique trail]

I will also sleep soon bestie

[warm crag]

destroy them

[winter shoal]

Yeah looks like the sim with spear uses it after the hard cast OF
I'll have to look more into it with roar, I think you'd delay it to combo with ava tho

[jolly mist]

I’m gonna miss my WA for the T30 set that made a cha-ching sound when I had enough stacks to make BT worth pressing

[oblique trail]

Don't see why you would, you get Ava from using OF

[winter shoal]

Isn't it reduced effectiveness from TT tho

Or am I cooked

[oblique trail]

It's just lower duration

The damage buff is the same

[winter shoal]

Oh lit

[wraith gull]

i love that WA

[winter shoal]

You can still use it, it just reminds you when you've gone so dry that bloodcraze is carrying you

[jolly mist]

It’s so good

[versed cipher]

do we have new weapon enchants or still wafting/sophic

[covert coyote]

Just make a new WA that cha-chings when OF is off CD

[fading sky]

When u get bb oroc

[covert coyote]

Think that would be too frequent. I’d lose the dopamine from rampaging too much.

[pastel oak]

Do you still play odins fury spec without 2/4 set?

[covert coyote]

No, not till new 2 set

[abstract dirge]

execute > rampage with t31 or rampage - bb whenever available?

[covert coyote]

If you won’t overcap rage probably. I’d think weaving exe between bt CD would be ideal.

[pastel oak]

Where can i find info about specs pre 2/4 set

Only ones i find is about when u have set

[kind swift]

hey guys / with the new 4p how is the opener ?

[pastel oak]

Check icy veins. Lots of info with 4 set

[old rover]

would the ran a 16 17 or 18 and get an item from the great vault next reset that you can upgrade to mythic staying for season 3 ?

[warm crag]

wowhead fury rotation guide seems accurate

[fickle bluff]

you will get a s2 item next week

[arctic raft]

Same, loved that thing

[modern leaf]

i skipped season 2. did they nerf spear? or am i trippin?

[prime charm]

Where is the best place to view the rotations for the T31 preferred builds? Cant see them on wowhead

[wild mural]

keys have tilted me into pulling out protuwu

[lavish grove]

I pulled out brewmaster, had a lot of fun too

[rotund ginkgo]

any 463 allied wrist enjoyers?

or yall waiting?

[lavish grove]

Waiting for now, will craft something closer to reset

[rotund ginkgo]

why waiting? curious to hear

[fast mural]

cause blizz can buff /nerf anything until raid releases

[lavish grove]

Don't feel the need currently plus there almost certainly will be patch before raid opens

Giving their last moment giga nerf to spore cloak, I'd rather wait

[fast mural]

everything is nerfed to the point where everything is about the same or completly useless

the only thing that can happen is buffs

[lavish grove]

hope so

But wrists probably safe craft anyway

[fast mural]

the only cope is that lariat wont be buffed

[unreal onyx]

I crafted my 447 1 day before nerf

[rotund steppe]

now i see

why xeos went rogue

[rustic obsidian]

is raidbots live with all the nerfs btw?

[nova garnet]

@warm crag xoxo miss u

[warm crag]

[tiny copper]

Does the 2p buff stack?

[olive wraith]

Like stack damage?

Or stack charges

[tiny copper]

The charges

[olive wraith]

Yes

Stacks to 6

[tiny copper]

Ty

[olive wraith]

Of grants 3 avatar with TT grants 3

[lavish grove]

I crafted 447 too. Good thing we didn't waste new spark

[forest tapir]

Why does WW now have a CD?
Can't I remove it via with talents anymore?

[heady saffron]

probably this

[forest tapir]

Ahh yes thats it, thanks!

[tulip swallow]

cringe talent

[heady saffron]

coming back after a year of not playing, for 10.2 and that change to reckless abandon is messing with me lol

[olive wraith]

It being only the next cast of bt?

[heady saffron]

yah

[wild mural]

imma beeg tank

104k overall in BH

[olive wraith]

Meh I feel like you don’t really notice it since you can only cast 1 bt anyways

[heady saffron]

oh bt, i meant rb

still using this tree havent bothered to look up what the goto is currently

[olive wraith]

Oh we don’t do RA without new tier

We running am os

[heady saffron]

i see, guess ill mess around with it in a few mins see what all i should change

[olive wraith]

Copy the t30 build

[thorny peak]

yo like what was worth it from dreamsurge/time rifts for ppl thats not in mythic gear from last season?

[olive wraith]

Just take out the bt talents and use extra rb talents if you don’t have tier

[heady saffron]

aight, thanks a bunch :)

[delicate burrow]

do we stay same builds until 2pc?

[young swan]

you swap to annihilator at 2/2

[delicate burrow]

is it the same for arms?

[young swan]

arms builds dont change

[craggy turret]

what means 2/2?

[loud mist]

t30 2p/ t31 2p

[delicate burrow]

2set of old tier 2 set of new tier

[craggy turret]

thanks buds

[heady saffron]

oh t30 isnt the upcoming set kek so i still need to find 2 decent slots/ilvl versions of the current raids gear
hmm i see

[compact prairie]

gearing question. I'm 440 with 0pc tier, everything is 437-447. I'm out of whelp stones. I have 3 catalysable pieces.
my plan was to get a 4th token on tuesday, farm up whelp stones, and upgrade two pieces with 90 stones before catalysing them.
so I'd have
450, 444, 437, 437 tier pieces
I can get 2pc now since I can't upgrade the 437s more on tuesday. though I figured I'd wait and make sure I don't get any out of LFR on tuesday

any feedback? I think I'm out of options for upgrading my gear further this week

[warm crag]

isnt the catalyst infinite charges now for s2 gear

[young swan]

new tier comes out tuesday so i just wouldnt worry about it, gonna be massive ilvl jumps when it comes out anyways

[compact prairie]

yes, but I don't have 4 pieces of catalysable gear, and they become un-upgradeable after catalsyt

[rotund steppe]

isnt a charge every 2 weeks?

[young swan]

its infinite for previous seasons

[copper root]

dont worry about it ur at a good i lvl do normal raid and spam mythic+

[compact prairie]

just trying to fiddle where I can. if I don't get any tier on tuesday, I'd like to be ready for raid on wednesday

[young swan]

for current season its 1 every 2 weeks

[warm crag]

no one expects you to be tiered up for a raid that just came out

[copper root]

spam mythic+ on tuesday

[compact prairie]

I assume it takes a fair bit of ilvl to make up for missing tier bonuses though, even t30

[warm crag]

isnt the time rift gear all s2 and catalyzable?

[compact prairie]

yeah, that and dreamsurge. one each per week

[warm crag]

hmmge

i mean don't overthink it really

[copper root]

yeah your dmg might suffer compared to others with tier but that will be short

[warm crag]

if you wanna optimize gear you'll get plenty of chances next week

[compact prairie]

I get it's overoptimizing, just fiddling while I wait

[warm crag]

pester a guildie for an m+ group for tues/wed probably a better use of your time

[compact prairie]

we'll be running for sure

is there a rough guideline of ilvl comparison to tier set bonuses?

[warm crag]

probs not

you will probably find a catalyzable piece if you look hard enough

idk if the 430 boes that are dropping rn are s2 or s3

[compact prairie]

to my knowledge the only things that catalyse are time rift and dreamsurge

[warm crag]

and s2 gear

[compact prairie]

right

I just remembered veteran track takes whelp tokens too, so forget all this, I shouldn't have even wasted the tokens on crafting 447 gear

[rotund steppe]

im just wating for raid

[warm crag]

is 450 lfr or normal equivalent

[fast mural]

lfr

[opaque thistle]

There any time rift trinkets worth picking up at 450?

[warm crag]

droptimizer it for your character

[opaque thistle]

Forgot that was a thing

[half cargo]

Strong believer in the chill til m+ angle

Don’t burn yourself out for no reason

[warm crag]

burn yourself out in m+

[half cargo]

[opaque thistle]

I live burnt out. Already got 4 toons at 15....

[warm crag]

why

[opaque thistle]

Bored at work

[solemn plover]

strong believer in the attacking @warm crag angle

[warm crag]

i cannot deny its effectiveness

[wild mural]

based

[heady saffron]

is lariat and pants not good anymore for embellishments? came back and someone told me lariat is trash now

:s

[unreal onyx]

lariat might be good again later in the season with full sockets