fury

[ember apex]

dont forget how they released the previous 2h strength legendary

[next canopy]

I can't believe all this time. He's been a warrior.

[rotund steppe]

shadowmourne?

[ember apex]

shadowmourne u had quest and only 1 person could work towards it

yeah

b/c u had to funnel them shadowfrost shards

[left perch]

It wasn’t that only 1 person could

[rotund steppe]

its gonna be like the evoker one

[covert blaze]

8 year expansion relevant

[rotund steppe]

but a bit less hell

[left perch]

it’s that that was ideal

[covert blaze]

fuck me it's more than 8

[distant niche]

wtf they extended it to 7pm

[left perch]

I can’t fingers

[left perch]

GOD DAMNT

[distant niche]

ffs

[next canopy]

Omg small indie company

[rotund steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[covert blaze]

ban this guy

[next canopy]

Guys look at the similarities here.

[fast mural]

surely last minute arms changes are the reason

[ember apex]

bro thats it

[fast mural]

warr dev holding up the patch

[ember apex]

i cant take that stupid face

1 more time

[next canopy]

Ok Super Spaz

[ember apex]

same face. same energy

[rotund steppe]

fury uncapped aoe now

[ember apex]

stop posting creepy faces now plz

friggin weird

[next canopy]

What is that lol

[ember apex]

its from a movie

[next canopy]

Looks scary

[ember apex]

its a horror movie so that makes sense

the taking of deborah logan

[rotund steppe]

i took the photo

[valid moon]

wow server won't be up until tomorrow

good night gentlemen

[ember apex]

alzheimers patient that gets possessed and her mouth opens like a snake and tries to swallow a kid whole in a cave

[next canopy]

omgggg haha

[slim coral]

3 warriors to fyrakk baby

[covert blaze]

wtf is this emote i love it

[next canopy]

Sounds like something you'd find on pornjub.com

[lavish beacon]

[mossy fox]

i smoked copium before stating this btw

just a bit

[covert blaze]

[mossy fox]

[rotund steppe]

[covert blaze]

crit you should downplay warrior so it gets buffed wtf are you cooking

[next canopy]

This symbol is the modern day warrior.

[slim coral]

Gotta sell the spec, you did great

[next canopy]

Bring back the ALPHA

[sinful hawk]

wait are servers still not up?

[next canopy]

and the OMEGA

[burnt stone]

[silent burrow]

More extendo

[burnt stone]

[next canopy]

Omega Extendo

[ember apex]

he's going to do that and then warriors aren't going to get brought to raid

that's whats gonna happen

[slim coral]

Ok who put feral in B

They don’t know what they are doing

[covert blaze]

+1 carlo cooked take

[rotund steppe]

no worries guys

11.0

that will be the time

warrior s+++

[covert blaze]

spear removed in 11.0

[rotund steppe]

spear moves with you

[frank dawn]

I mean if you're called a Slayer and aren't top dps

what are they even doing

[covert blaze]

spear is just blue ravager

[tulip swallow]

11.0 gonna be even more scuffed than 9.0 and 10.0

We don't have a great record with modern .0 patches

[peak lagoon]

new fury is worse in M+ than 10.0 RA

[rotund steppe]

slayer special move is fill the room with ravagers everyone stacks hurricane up to 100 stacks

[tender bear]

jeeze they did in warriors again?

[covert blaze]

LETHIMCOOK

[tender bear]

i dont feel like we are strong enough to be done in

[peak lagoon]

arms is gonna be blasting in M+ and raid

[ember apex]

are we going to be like PoE slayer archetype and just be overleech monsters

[mossy fox]

we're B tier but we're getting 3 arms warriors on rwf mythic fyrakk

100% no cap

[fast mural]

[frank dawn]

Mountain Thane gets multi-target stormbolt, so Slayer get multi-target Ravager

seems legit

[mossy fox]

sounds good

[tender bear]

jeeze laweeze

[olive wraith]

Arms bad no toxic

[peak lagoon]

2 is extremely likely if it actually has important 2 target cleave and then execute

FoB is disgusting

[tender bear]

guess switch up to druid like they want lol

[covert blaze]

can you smell

what the critcake is cooking

[left perch]

Famed Slayer of Fyrak Slayer Vhys

[clever path]

overall? fury?

[frank dawn]

Is Fury execute still close to Arms or did somethign change where Arms is pretty significantly ahead. Seems like the discussion around that has changed the last few days related to Arms execute damage

[tender bear]

ya i agree

[fading sky]

its closer this season aint it ?

with vicious contempt ?

[young swan]

fury is still close

[peak lagoon]

10% behind ish right

[young swan]

still like 10% behind

[peak lagoon]

in execute

[frank dawn]

ah ok

[fading sky]

thats fully st build fury ?

[tender bear]

so boss dps arms is beating fury now?

[fading sky]

which lets be honest, makes no sense playing 😄

[young swan]

yeah

[olive wraith]

We ahead in non execute stage though

[young swan]

they're VERY close

[frank dawn]

Fury is still overall higher than arms afaik, but yeah it's close

[fading sky]

if u play fury should still play with ww coz that realisticly would be what u are used for no?

[silent burrow]

Fury does significantly better execute than 10.1 but arms just does more execute.

[fading sky]

ah fuck if i know. just a feeling

[young swan]

most of your aoe damage is incidental from OF

[next canopy]

Is the new zone in the dragon isles?

[tender bear]

last i heard warrior were A tier what happened that dipped us to B?

[minor halo]

its in outland

[young swan]

rogues sandbagging

[tender bear]

ah

[peak lagoon]

id put arms in A tier and rogues in DDDD

[young swan]

we should be a-tier but we arent as good as rogues

[fading sky]

well if u play ST u dont have the big aoe of though but the tiny

if sims are true rogue is dddd no ?

[peak lagoon]

yes

[young swan]

rogue should be s-tier, yes

[tender bear]

Rogues been busted for a minute

[fading sky]

like outlaw heavy heavy st with decent cleave im guessing

[young swan]

just whispyr sandbagging

[viscid flare]

tiers are a fake concept created by big content to sell more tier lists

[fading sky]

Sub can burst like a MOFO

assa is just decent dmg no ?

[young swan]

sin is very fucking good

[tender bear]

ya he is

[peak lagoon]

sin is new UHDK

[rotund steppe]

do you guys think if i buy the epic edition wil i get prio on the axe?

[fading sky]

ok

jesus

[tender bear]

lbvs its the axe why we are all here

[ember apex]

from my GM. do i roll the dice w/ winning a warrior raid spot or do i play a busted but potentially future nerfed spec

[fading sky]

i main Aug

[rotund steppe]

[tulip swallow]

nah rog never gets nered

you good

[fading sky]

there will deffo be 1 of the 3 specs

[ember apex]

dude if i have to play rogue

[rotund steppe]

what

[fading sky]

that will be very good

[slim coral]

Play warrior for Lego

[ember apex]

the 1 patch theres a 2h strength leggo

[viscid flare]

play the spec u are best at and guarantee urself a raid slot by virtue of being a better player

[ember apex]

thats what i want to do

[fading sky]

its easy for me to say ive got a warrior spot in my guild though

[ember apex]

but i heard our 10.2 trial has poggers warrior logs

[fading sky]

well make him toxic

😄

[ember apex]

i cant do that i try to make friends w/ everyone regardless

[tender bear]

where we put out a shout for raid find on here guys?

[ember apex]

maybe ill make friends w/ a sysadmin at WCL and see if i can get them to do some magic on his page

[tender bear]

need a guild thats got a warr spot for raids on 10.2

[ember apex]

GL. u have 1 week friend

[rotund steppe]

g

l

[ember apex]

check everywhere and start spamming apps everywhere

[hasty tree]

is our rally still one of the strongest raid cds and do you still want maybe 2 warriors for it on certain bosses?

[ember apex]

nerfed rally > nerfed AMZ apparently

[viscid flare]

rally still maintains the advantage of not requiring the raid to be stacked so at the very least we got that going for us

[upbeat plume]

they nerfed 95% of ALL raid cds

for healing

[ember apex]

yeah but nerfed rally apparently still pog AF

[fast mural]

we still have a raid buff so no worries

[rotund steppe]

they say they play but i really wonder what is their thought process

[ember apex]

hunter buff tho lmao

[fast mural]

wsant rally nerf because the healer changes ?

[ember apex]

yeah it was grouped in

we were collateral damage

[upbeat plume]

not really any different since everything got nerfed rally maintained its relative strength in terms of other cds, just everything sucks more now so the value of it didnt really shift compard to other things lol

[fast mural]

darkness also got nerfed no ?

[sage ether]

raid buff + raid cd + 2h leggo = 3 warriors on fyrakk

[ember apex]

well this is AMZs 2nd big nerf and rally's first

so in that context

it's pog AF in comparison

[fast mural]

3 legendaries before its even unlocked

gigachads

[upbeat plume]

not really cause AMZ was so hilariously ahead before that first nerf

[sage ether]

ez

[fast mural]

you know what rally is better than AMZ and darkness ?
you are still able to see shit on the ground

[ember apex]

that's what im saying

and we dont have to position nothin. we dont have to move to a spot

we just press the shit

[fast mural]

actually they should make rally have spear animation in the 30 yard radius

[ember apex]

its gonna be like those lightmode memes of a dude sitting in a dark room then all of a sudden a bright flash of light

[fringe anchor]

Can I macro recklessness to always cast after avatar or is there ever a time I cast avatar on its own?

[sinful hawk]

speaking of rally, when does it make the most sense to use it, before the mechanic hits or after? I have this weird thought of it doing some kind of heal effect but never really thought it all the way through.

[fringe anchor]

do you not press rally to stop people dying to the hit?

[fast mural]

using it before the hit is best

since you get more hp

potentially saving people

[sage ether]

you hit it when your weak aura glows cause your healer officer assigned it when they want it

[fringe anchor]

based take

[sinful hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-book-of-boba-fett-this-is-the-way-the-armorer-mandalorian-gif-25545276

[fast mural]

when the alarms go off i press it

[pearl lagoon]

The health gain is temporary, it’s not a heal really. You want it before the mechanic

[sinful hawk]

[random bough]

how is fury looking for the new patch?

[covert blaze]

this

[fast mural]

yes

[narrow narwhal]

Yes

[sage ether]

maybe

[lavish grove]

[unreal cape]

yes

[forest rose]

maybe

[mild kraken]

so as soon as patch drops we running annihalator?

[fast mural]

no

[cedar edge]

2p

[fast mural]

once you get 2p

[mild kraken]

thank god

i didnt wanna kms yet

[cedar edge]

i know

sadness approaches

[winter shoal]

It should be required to post your PTR /played before complaining about annihilator

[mild kraken]

does it help that i played it season 1

[fast mural]

no

[winter shoal]

It's much better in 10.2 than previously

[cedar edge]

Does ptr have pvp

[fast mural]

that actually makes your case worse

[winter shoal]

idk pvp is for nerds

[cedar edge]

thats what i thought

[mild kraken]

can you even play the class properly like stfu

[cedar edge]

ty

[fast mural]

they did test the solo que rbgs on ptr

no idea if people actually did it tho

[winter shoal]

I'm not sure what that was supposed to mean tbh but literally log into PTR and give it a try, it's not bad

I dare say it has a higher skill ceiling than current fury rotation

[mild kraken]

LOl what rampage bloodthirst on repeat????

ur slow

[fast mural]

this just shows you how brain dead current fury is

[winter shoal]

Yes

[winter shoal]

Have you uhhh looked at the patch notes

[strange panther]

Its pretty boring.

[winter shoal]

RA changes and SoS changes specifically

[mild kraken]

Ur making me lose brain cells

im out

[winter shoal]

👋

[fast mural]

everyone is gonna shut up about annihilator once they see the bloodthirst /bloodbath execute crits

[rotund steppe]

lmao yeah

[sage ether]

storm of swords rly works out the same because ya wanna spend the ww stacks anyways. just does more dmg and makes it so braindead kids dont spam it. it helps bad gamers

[rotund steppe]

everyone compains and havent played it

[winter shoal]

Ehh the WW cd can be kind of cringe because there are niche scenarios where you want to WW more than every 5th global but yeah

[mild kraken]

ur right calc like i dont watch countless hours of crit playing the talents

[sage ether]

thats tru but for the most part

[fast mural]

watching = playing

[mild kraken]

its not different at all

[fast mural]

didnt know im a rwf raider

[rotund steppe]

my brother in odyn haent touched the ptr

[mild kraken]

i dont need to touch ptr to be a god

[rotund steppe]

i recommend u do before compaining

[sage ether]

im watching max's teir list. im basically a god gamer on all classes now

[mild kraken]

well it sucks

[covert blaze]

lmfao

[mild kraken]

ill come back

and say it sucks

[next canopy]

Where does the crit come from

[rotund steppe]

have fun then

[mild kraken]

i wont

[fast mural]

tier set

[rotund steppe]

tier set

[next canopy]

Ooh sexy

I remember BT hitting hard a couple season ago and it felt nice

[winter shoal]

Mf really out here like an angsty teenager promising not to have fun

[rotund steppe]

mf is a regular in fel hammer discord

[winter shoal]

Like you're allowed to not like something but uhh maybe try it first?

[olive wraith]

I think people are projecting 600k+ bb in execute range

[winter shoal]

PTR is literally free

[sage ether]

hitting BT last season felt good when ya spread big dammy

[fast mural]

is that the dh one ?

[winter shoal]

tier set doesn't cleave now sadeg

[rotund steppe]

yeah

[covert blaze]

i watched a video i know how it feels

[fast mural]

why am i not surprised

[mild kraken]

mf is not who u think he is

[winter shoal]

Holy :chatting:

[olive wraith]

Are you even good? No toxic

[covert blaze]

i hated the idea of anni and I after I played it, it's fine

[winter shoal]

I won't lie I thought anni was gonna be turbo cringe but after the changes it's pretty deece imo

[rotund steppe]

didnt we all?

[winter shoal]

I do think AM is more fun than RA in general but wcyd

[fast mural]

once we saw big numbers pop up

[winter shoal]

CDR on OF is similar enough gameplay-wise

[fast mural]

fury down bad for big numbers

[olive wraith]

I wish we just did ramp bb bb bt

[fast mural]

why

[winter shoal]

I'd commit soy sauce on the side if that was our actual rotation all patch

[rotund steppe]

if we did that everyone rerolls to fury lmao

mf frost mage classic rotation

[olive wraith]

That sounds so fun

Pumping 2 buttons

[fast mural]

1.5 button class

[cedar edge]

little bloated innit

[strange panther]

Gotta trim it down when wow goes live for the xbox.

[fast mural]

have you seen people play ff14 with controller

i think they can handle it

[sullen dove]

delayed again

[rotund steppe]

ff literally has 3 buttons in aoe and 3 in st

[sullen dove]

[rotund steppe]

wot

LMAOOOO

[cedar edge]

good news maintenance SHOULD be done by next tuesday

[winter shoal]

NA beta testing again Sadeg

[strange panther]

Small indie.

[fast mural]

you will get it earlier than EU

[silk wharf]

Oh man, is this 4 extra bag slots bad?

[winter shoal]

I will be asleep

[fast mural]

[dreamy sierra]

Perfect. Just in time when I get off work

[covert blaze]

another hour boiiiiis

[copper root]

doesnt even matter real content next week

[cedar edge]

Last wing of LFR is several weeks away

[fast mural]

augment rune hype

[rotund steppe]

man i wanna read my quest text

[fast mural]

isnt there an addon that does it for you?

[olive wraith]

This week is alt catchup week

[rotund steppe]

not for retail

[next canopy]

This is like the old blizzard way

They got so good about underpromising and over delivering

[loud locust]

hey when is wow done and servers are up?

[winter shoal]

allegedly in 1h15m

[loud locust]

k

[compact knot]

isnt it 15 mins rn

[young swan]

no

1hr15m

it just got extendo'd

[valid moon]

Told you

https://tenor.com/view/gotem-gif-18695498

[serene vessel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1069667540151844884/1105576426926776391/attachment-1.gif

[slim coral]

FInally a tier list we are good in

[sullen dove]

i like looking in this server anytime anyone makes a tier list

you always on point

[slim coral]

[sharp jolt]

bruh

[reef cave]

[junior gale]

Slayer is bis

I will fight anyone who says otherwise

[cedar edge]

nah mountain thane goes hard

unquestionable

[junior gale]

ok but like whenever you read slayer in your head use the Halo voice

[cedar edge]

Based

slayer S tier

[urban nimbus]

Is the APM required for fury warrior a lot btw?

[fast mural]

colossus>slayer

[covert blaze]

???
doom? hello?

[junior gale]

nah old school halo voice better

[clever path]

Not a fan of this annihilator meta this patch tf

[junior gale]

More like Colossus loser

[rotund steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31OXTVU8uK0

[covert blaze]

Colossus goes hard ngl

[junior gale]

there it is baby

[fast mural]

colossus can make me finally 6ft

[urban nimbus]

Compared to BM Hunter, which spec requires more button pushing I wonder?

[winter shoal]

They're both effectively gcd locked so APM will be basically the same

[urban nimbus]

Ok, got it.

[winter shoal]

BM and fury are probably 2 of the easiest classes in terms of rotation in the game though so I wouldn't worry much if those are your options

[covert blaze]

https://youtu.be/t5TK1OxEj9A
0:55

[winter shoal]

Zhai you know you can link to a timestamp right

[covert blaze]

yeah i know but it catches people off guard

[urban nimbus]

Any good fury macros as well btw?

[winter shoal]

I think they're on the wowhead guide

[urban nimbus]

Ok, got it.

[tardy lark]

only macros you need are the stance macro and the RB into slam macro

[fast mural]

honestly no need for macros anymore since we need to space out our CD´s for odyns fury proc

[covert blaze]

you still need a macro for spear

[fast mural]

never used one for it

[winter shoal]

One for ava + spear/roar + trinkets would be good

[covert blaze]

[fast mural]

every time i used a mouse over macro for spear it ended up on the ceiling

[tulip swallow]

it's so tragic man

why would they let that happen to us

Whenever you want to leap somewhere the game says no, but it has no problem with letting you throw your spear on the wall

[next canopy]

I don’t understand this concept. Slayer Colossus

How will these titles work

[fast mural]

think of it as subclasses

or ascendancys

[next canopy]

Like you could be a fury colossus?

[winter shoal]

Join us roar enjoyers

[fast mural]

fury gets slayer and mountain thane

[next canopy]

Or fury slayer

[tulip swallow]

each spec only gets access to 2/3 of them

[next canopy]

Ahh gotcha

[chrome plover]

it's a choice, like a covenant

[empty rivet]

slayer probably best

for dps

[urban nimbus]

Yeah fair enough, main issue is that I can't do well on even BM back in Abberus with 20 parses in terms for hero bosses. Hope this goes better for me lol.

[chrome plover]

you choose slayer, you access the slayer tree, you choose mountain thane you access the mountain thane tree

[next canopy]

Kinda cool

[chrome plover]

you can switch between them how you do with talents

so i imagine maybe mountain thane for high keys (utility) and slayer for raid potentially

[next canopy]

If the skills / talents are fun that’s really cool

[tulip swallow]

They said low friction instead of no friction so i'm a little bit concern

[chrome plover]

or maybe one is just giga good and we only play that (more likely)

[fast mural]

better comparison would be you either are a fury warr with roar or fury roar with spear

[rigid stirrup]

bro give me WC3 blademaster

[fast mural]

but only passives

[chrome plover]

one of the mountain thane ones is storm bolt hits 3 targets

[next canopy]

It’s all only passives,

[tulip swallow]

3 targets wtf

[next canopy]

?

[fast mural]

yes

[rigid stirrup]

mirror image and windwalk pls

[tulip swallow]

let it be uncapped 😡

[fast mural]

they said they dont want to add button bloat

[next canopy]

Omg haha

[fast mural]

which is a good thing

some tanks are struggling

[chrome plover]

that's the only one that was actually showcased

[next canopy]

I actually like that. Too many buttons is overwhelming

[fast mural]

thunderclap was blue

[tulip swallow]

as long as the passives are cool I don't mind

[winter shoal]

You ever tried hekili? A friend of mine uses it for BM and she has a 95 average on heroic

[tulip swallow]

assuming they also fix up the current tree

[next canopy]

Can we see what each sub spec will have or that’s not out yet?

[tulip swallow]

I think we have names but not much else

[next canopy]

What the fuck is a mountain thane

[covert blaze]

a thane

from the mountains

[tardy lark]

lore shit

who knows

[tulip swallow]

idk probably dwarf shit

[chrome plover]

we dont know what exactly each spec is

but you can guess

(we know warriors because they showed it)

[urban nimbus]

Tried it, it was confusing for me tbh in terms of replicating what it told me to do.

[chrome plover]

and druid i think?

[tulip swallow]

wtf why does demon hunter only get 2

[covert blaze]

dh

[chrome plover]

oh you meant what talents they have

[chrome plover]

[covert blaze]

it has 2 specs brother

why else

[dim willow]

It's a warrior asking the question

[tulip swallow]

imagine if we got third dh instead of aug

[next canopy]

thane
/THān/
nounHISTORICAL
(in Anglo-Saxon England) a man who held land granted by the king or by a military nobleman, ranking between an ordinary freeman and a hereditary noble.

What a shit name call it like Berzerker

BERZERKER

[meager gyro]

Mountain thane leak, heroic leap replaced by mountain fall. Now becomes massive AOE DMG

[covert blaze]

not with ''z'' that's cringe

[next canopy]

Ur right

[sullen dove]

big

[tulip swallow]

I think it's thane because of the dwarf stuff, but it's weird for everyone else

[valid moon]

Server got delayed 4 hours more

[chrome plover]

ty NA 🫶

[tulip swallow]

I would be ok with that, lets me

[next canopy]

I hope it is so I can sleep too

[valid moon]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-sleepy-gif-27609170

[next canopy]

We talking four hours from the original or four hours from the latest

[edgy widget]

I think they should delay EU launch too, just to be fair

[next canopy]

@valid moon

[covert blaze]

[chrome plover]

yeah totally agree

[tulip swallow]

Let them suffer

[next canopy]

What is the EST now?

[sullen dove]

8

[edgy widget]

about an hour from now

[sullen dove]

yea

[next canopy]

Oh ok cool

[sullen dove]

surely no more extensions

[edgy widget]

idk, they can take all the time in the world for all I care

[next canopy]

I’ll see you all at the world tree

[sullen dove]

if i miss out on 1 day of daily rep grinding and i get pushed back a day on aug rune gonna go GRRRRR

[edgy widget]

it's just quest content that'll be knocked out in a couple hours anyway

[sullen dove]

how dare they push back my plans for an item that doesnt matter

[next canopy]

^ it’s just not right

[covert blaze]

@edgy widget sorry for tag but do you think race sims on bloodmallet are to be trusted rn? not sure who does them or w/e

[edgy widget]

I don't see why you wouldn't, since it pulls from the same thing that everything else does

but it's also just races, so who cares

[tender bear]

i dont really understand what the whole hero class stuff means

could someone explain it a bit?

[covert blaze]

Yeah no idea if the sims came from the same place.
Yeah i know race doesn't matter, just wanted a reason to just send human for dps + rep

[torn shale]

Any idea if Sporecloak is the play given the nerfs or what will be? Patch again?

[next canopy]

Read up 5 min

[chrome plover]

you have a small bonus tree in between the class and spec talent trees based on which hero spec you choose, each spec has 2x hero specs allocated to it

[valid moon]

Man, you got me there, warrior brain here.

[chrome plover]

nah it seems pretty dead

[tulip swallow]

If they're making lots of changes bloodmallet is behind sometimes, but race sims should be p static

[tender bear]

thanks chawie

[next canopy]

It got renamed in hot fix to Shitcloak

[chrome plover]

np, it's still at least 8-10 months away, probably more, we'll find out a lot more later

[loud locust]

damn

[tender bear]

do we know what the warrior hero specs are yet?

[loud locust]

i swear its been fucking 1 hour and a half

[torn shale]

that was my take too. I just dont know other than bracers whats even worth it at this point? Lariat? lol

[tender bear]

ahhh

[tulip swallow]

I wonder if it's worse than that cope shield necklace now

[valid moon]

Here playa

[valid moon]

.

[chrome plover]

^

[tender bear]

nods wark i mean the actual talents

[chrome plover]

nah not yet

[tender bear]

gotcha

[valid moon]

https://tenor.com/view/talents-gif-27502395

[chrome plover]

we know one of them makes storm bolt hit 3 targets but thats the only one they showed

[tender bear]

a thane is a footpad i.e. rogue so thats confusing

[chrome plover]

i thought a thane was a king

[tender bear]

thane in lore is a brigand

usually was demonstrated well with cutthroat/thief/footpad/ hobit esk stuff

hobbit*

[chrome plover]

hm

[tender bear]

i dunno maybe the lore changed since i was in the lore game back in MuD days when it all kicked off

havent heard thane in a minute

[next canopy]

Sounds like a rogue

[tardy lark]

fucking love playing hobbit warrior

[tender bear]

ya

rogue ish for sure

[next canopy]

It must be like mountain king

[tender bear]

nods

[next canopy]

My older brother Magney

[tulip swallow]

all the dwarf kings are thanes, yeah

[tender bear]

ah ok neat something i never heard

[next canopy]

Maybe it’s a play on Thanos

[tacit abyss]

Exactly

[tender bear]

i dont think so because its for warrior class

:p

i just cant understand why a rogue outdoes a warrior in pvp lorewise on WoW

never understood that

pve*

[elder burrow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/hero-talents-coming-in-the-war-within-deep-class-fantasy-system-335865

this explains the Hero Talents as they stand right now

[tender bear]

like how ya gunna have a rogue out dps a warrior make it make sense

[next canopy]

Yeah it’s dumb

They should hide better

And like cry better

[tender bear]

oh interesting; kinda like a dragonflight flight talent tree

[elder burrow]

Yes

[tender bear]

i mean make em stronger in pvp (er.. ) but give them pve too? interesting strat there lore wise

[edgy widget]

instead of getting more talent points on the main trees, everyone gets a 3rd talent tree (so Class / Spec / Hero)

• The Hero tree is only 10 points (out of 10 that you get from leveling), making it much smaller, but you get to fill out the whole thing

• Think of it like the Legion artificts, though with a couple choice nodes, so it's not completely binary

• Each spec can also choose between 2 Hero talent trees, so there's a little more variety still
  e.g: Arms can be Colossus or Slayer, Fury can be Slayer or Mountain Thane, Prot can be Mountain Thane or Colossus

[covert blaze]

[next canopy]

Just tried connecting

Nothing

[elder burrow]

Should be interesting to play around with

[tender bear]

lol jeeze should call this 10.2 the druid wet dream

[next canopy]

Going back to my kids

Keep me posted

[covert blaze]

wym

[chrome plover]

forms

[next canopy]

This hero stuff is like next xpac?

[chrome plover]

ye

[rotund steppe]

y

[covert blaze]

yes

[chrome plover]

we get points from 70-80

each level

[tender bear]

forms / everything they show is by druid example; class reworks all of it

just obvious druid love this time

[covert blaze]

it's because druid is special, it has 4 specs

and hero talents are for 11.0

not for 10.2

[next canopy]

Tonight is a big night for me. I’m going to look at all the gear and decide if I need to play this fricken game

[tender bear]

lol paladin druid always been the faves for the devs

haha bro i feel that

i never felt much for druid; they are super cool looking but their kit is always way over complicated. gotta have 100 macros/keybinds/Special keybinds to roll a good job on one

at least the last time i played one

[rotund steppe]

im gonna bet something

lock is gonna get buffed

in less than a month

[tender bear]

locks one of two S tier right now

they definitely got buffed

[rotund steppe]

i mean again

[tender bear]

mage may be a sleeper with arcane cleave we will see

unholy dk is nasty as hell too

so is elemental sham

rest are A tier or lower

but you know how that stuff goes

here today; gone tomorrow

[slim coral]

nothing sleeper about mage

spec is always good in prog

[covert blaze]

mage is always good

[tender bear]

ya but fire is the best

[slim coral]

a good arcane is always on top

[tender bear]

unless arcane missile cleave turns out how it looks

meh depends on if you are talkin myth or raids imo

played mage from vanilla until BFA definitely enjoyed seeing things move towards arcane like they have

but i think fire still is slightly better

lots less work with mana consumption too which is annoying

[slim coral]

idk hopeful has shown me the light of arcane

that spec is op

[tender bear]

hopeful a youtuber?

[slim coral]

instant dollars mage

idk if he's classified as a youtuber but he streams on twitch

[tender bear]

checking him out

[slim coral]

https://youtu.be/Xl-YWAjGuuM?t=2508

[wanton mirage]

we SMFing?

[olive wraith]

No

If you get lucky and that’s your first drop maybe you run smf until 2h sims better

[wanton mirage]

but Archi put that in alternative :3

[slim coral]

no smf would only be good week 1

and that's in a RWF scenario

[olive wraith]

Assuming that’s your only wep drop week one maybe you run smf for a week

[slim coral]

after the first week it gets gapped

dan warr said he might run it week 1 but doesnt wanna talk about it due to RWF incase he does end up going it

[tender bear]

@slim coral so bro if you go back to that vid; i watched (was def interesting btw ya i see what you mean) however; check all the fights he used fire for most of em. cool vid tho and i see your point on it being a good end game spec. think his numbers cranked a bit harder on fire though.

@ baze highest DPS he hit on all fights was 230k+ as fire

@slim coral ** mb

they are definitely a lot closer than i thought though

[slim coral]

he used fire on certain fights because they were switching between the specs to test

[tender bear]

nods i getcha; his fire spec did best

but if that arcane cleave hits like i think it will on missiles that'll change

[sullen dove]

lmao we not playing this patch today

unfort

[clever belfry]

na noobers

eu sweep

[rotund steppe]

BRO

WTF

[slim coral]

THis is the pure ST fight and he was on top by 20k as arcane

[clever belfry]

look at her go

she is so happy her whole nation is drowning

[slim coral]

Server waiting room

[valid moon]

TOLD YA

[strange panther]

18 years of this, are you really surprised?

[tulip swallow]

[glad coyote]

we arent switching specs till we get 4 piece next week right?

like this week specs stay the same until we get new tier

[slim coral]

whos' week

we

I'm switching rn

[clever belfry]

you swap on 2set
new tier is not available next week

[sullen dove]

[clever belfry]

its the week after

[glad coyote]

yeah so no changes this week

[sullen dove]

me when i acquire her c6 in 1 10pull

[slim coral]

I can sandbag

[clever belfry]

i mean id do that if i did that

[tender bear]

fire at the end of fight on smolderon

[valid moon]

Yeah, Classic FTW

[slim coral]

that's arcane

[tender bear]

nah he just switched sec i will pull it out right before he does after he drops em

[slim coral]

also hopeful is the best arcane mage imo

outside of firedup

[cedar edge]

where warrior

[tender bear]

same fight before the ending; then he swapped to arcane at 232k

was fire; from what i see it is his heaviest fight by 20k ish and was fire

[slim coral]

yeah but imo I don't think tryingog is as good on arcane

as hopeful

[rotund steppe]

[slim coral]

so I'd have to see what hopeful does against himself on both specs

[tender bear]

ya his rotation is great

nods i think its very very close but im pretty sure fire is slightly got edge bro but i agree on that its semantics at that point

i do think arcane has more utility too imo

i would guess it is situational for sure which is better but the highest number possible is slightly fire for now. now imagine them arcane missiles CLEAVING

[slim coral]

yeah arcane just has better room for skill expression

[tender bear]

think it will be huge

agreed

[slim coral]

we'll see at RWF!

[untold moth]

did the wowhead Rotation page not get pushed its 10.2 update? it still talks about T30P4

[tender bear]

haha for sure bro

[slim coral]

Things are still updating

[untold moth]

heard that

side question, can we still use Crushing Blow (RA) with anni?

i thought anni removed both

[olive wraith]

No

[slim coral]

you cannot

that's why you cannot trust the wowguide rn

[brittle folio]

Anni replces it

[olive wraith]

Wowhead is borked rn

[slim coral]

everything should be fixed by next tuesday

[cedar edge]

wtb 10.2 early access

[slim coral]

rn I wouldnt bother with trusting anything atm

[untold moth]

my plan: enjoy the emerald dream, grind renoun

well, if the server was up

[meager void]

trust your zug

[untold moth]

::insert Mr. Turner this is where my server would be, if i had one, meme::

[worldly night]

what embellishment are we using now that the sporecloak got a large last min nerf?

[untold moth]

new crit one and allied wrists?

thats my feelscraft

[worldly night]

ty

[untold moth]

im a purple parsing late tier heroic clear raider, maybe check with anyone else 😉

[sullen dove]

guide'll probably say within a week

[tight igloo]

dont craft until next week

[sullen dove]

also yea no reason to craft anything this week anyway

[tight igloo]

can just get changed halfway through the week

[sullen dove]

unless like it is a near bis embell

[covert blaze]

probably wrist + something else

[sullen dove]

like pretty likely youre doin wrist

[hardy cargo]

I heard wrist+sfp

[sullen dove]

but u might not want a 463 wrist if your current 447 one has socket

[glad coyote]

depends raid or m+

[hardy cargo]

From crit

[next canopy]

Where do ppl put their money? 1 hour extension or right in the nick of time for 8 pm EST

[hardy cargo]

Already been extended to 9 est

[sullen dove]

theres already an extension

its 9 est

[next canopy]

oh damn mine is always delated

delayed

[tender bear]

im feelin 10-12 EST

[next canopy]

doesn't show extension on battlenet

[tender bear]

if i had to guess

[sullen dove]

in game one almost always insta updates

on loading screen

[glad coyote]

rip

time to bet more money on college basketball now

[silent burrow]

NA beta testing

[restive peak]

GL bois we callin it, EU release in Lincs mind!

[glad coyote]

do we yet know what the lego affect is?

[young swan]

no

[next canopy]

Night bro. I think I’m in same boat.

[elder burrow]

I'm thinking it'll be tomorrow morning for me

[spice vine]

Hey guys todays patch day gl and have fun

[lunar summit]

Yar

[spice vine]

@young swan wtf u are in hots and I did not catch an inv?

[restive peak]

❤️

[lunar summit]

Is there a fury warrior hero in hots?

[shrewd osprey]

king varian iirc

[slim coral]

Gl this tier king

[spice vine]

ye u can play varian with twin blades

[slim coral]

Mike misses you

[shrewd osprey]

or the barbarian from diablo 3

[spice vine]

holy mike

which mike

[slim coral]

that mike

the priest

or healer

[spice vine]

oh ya I know that mike

[hardy cargo]

samuro is also real fun hes wc3 blademaster

[young swan]

i dont have u on bnet do i?

[spice vine]

Fix it

[lunar summit]

They never gave us varians swords as a transmog huh?

Sadge

[keen kindle]

Shalamane will never be an xmog probally

[sudden tusk]

gonna play abathur and rat your base all game

[young swan]

cringe

[sage ridge]

Is the new tier set available on the first week of the season?

[young swan]

no

well

it can be

[slim coral]

You don't get funneled your tier set?

It's a 30 percent dps gain bro

[zenith moat]

Too bad we share tier token with the yellow op reworked class

[urban nimbus]

What class is that?

[pliant obsidian]

I did'nt raid this season but does'nt most gear go to healers tanks etc first or is that strategy dead?

[next canopy]

Do WF raiders clear mythic raid with like noob gear in week 1?

[slim coral]

that hasnt been a thing in forever

[pliant obsidian]

ok and why?

[slim coral]

dps = faster prog

healing ain't gonna kill the boss

[pliant obsidian]

tanks die its a wipe right?

[slim coral]

tanks don't die

unless it's like a sark p3 style fight

[pliant obsidian]

we are talking about wow right?lol cmon they die a lot

[slim coral]

where they have to learn some niche intearction

[covert blaze]

bad tanks when they have to do something more than the bare minimum

[slim coral]

I mean In the guild I'm in I've never had a issue where the tanks were the reason we didnt kill the boss

[pliant obsidian]

ahh ok so tanks just use mostly talents etc not so much gear anymore?

[slim coral]

I mean they still use gera you just don't prio them for gear

esp tier sets

[gilded pawn]

the raid is usually balanced around the weakest tank

therefore the stronger tanks dont really struggle to live outside of exceptions

[pliant obsidian]

in that case i might just go prot this season stay away from that gear drama stuff

[gilded pawn]

rerolling from dps to tank is as easy as pressing n

[zenith moat]

11 hours maintenace

[gilded pawn]

and if you are in a guild they should know what they are talking about

and if you arent in a serious guild it doesnt matter

[keen kindle]

Tanks only die if they play like shit

[gilded pawn]

when was the last time you played retail raid out of curiosity

[keen kindle]

I mean we just base off whoever gets the biggest upgrade for tier at least

2 and 4pc over 1 and 3

[pliant obsidian]

pretty much dragon soul raid was my last raid as prot niighthold was my last one i did seriously

[keen kindle]

Oh

[slim coral]

dragon soul?

[pliant obsidian]

yea

[slim coral]

when tf was that

[pliant obsidian]

cata

[keen kindle]

That makes a lotta sense

[gilded pawn]

ok there you go

[pliant obsidian]

i was a avoidance tank

[wispy quest]

Well your in luck, dragon soul is comming back

[slim coral]

ok yeah you're like 5 years behind the tech

[keen kindle]

Ohhhh yeah

Wow has changed

[compact knot]

does anyone have actual correct sim %s

for tier

[gilded pawn]

the only time tank survival is a thing is in HIGH m+

[pliant obsidian]

yea game got a lot easier for most stuff mythics look kinda hard mostly positioning i guess

[spice vine]

or when I am tanking

[gilded pawn]

get hekili

fast

[spice vine]

and the pack contains 1+ crocodile

[lyric sluice]

Is Sporecloak still BiS after the nerf?

[slim coral]

Tol Dagor

[wispy quest]

I remember tanking my first mythic raid, I was surprised I had to use my cds to not die and couldn’t just spam dps rotation

[pliant obsidian]

hopefully this season i can find a good guild but my realm has not many options

[wispy quest]

I was a heroic Andy back then

[slim coral]

damn there is no monkaS emote

[compact knot]

i hate tanking uldaman

as prot

dot ticks for 500k per second

[spice vine]

bleeds are not very good to tank as prot

[slim coral]

those are not crocs

[keen kindle]

Check evreywhere

[compact knot]

through shield wall

[next canopy]

Did they extend past 9 pm est now?

[slim coral]

no

[wispy quest]

Imagine not being dwarf

[slim coral]

Ian told me servers were coming up at 9

[rotund steppe]

[pliant obsidian]

so in real high keys do you as a tank have stopping points like behind walls etc like uldaman?

[slim coral]

stopping points?

[wispy quest]

You mean los?

[next canopy]

Never tanked in my life

[pliant obsidian]

yea los

[slim coral]

I mean you gernally los any pack that has a hard cast

that cannot be interrupted

[next canopy]

Does it feel anything like being dps

[compact knot]

uldaman first part of the dungeon is so bad for prot

kiting required

if not your instantly dead to bleed

[pliant obsidian]

oooh

[next canopy]

Really that’s weird

Felt like a tank would be more tanky lol

[slim coral]

servers up

gogogogoog

[covert blaze]

tanking is giga boring

[pliant obsidian]

shockwave maybe lol

[slim coral]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL THE SERVERS ARE UP

YOU CAN PLAY THE GAME

[next canopy]

Ty

[distant niche]

All my F tier fury brothers log on!!!

[pliant obsidian]

gonna see if servers are up see what ui corrections addons etc need updating

F tier were always meta lol

[covert blaze]

huh

[distant niche]

Bruh

[lean heart]

[compact knot]

actually up btw

[lean heart]

no but fr servers are up

[next canopy]

I can’t get past Battle.net launch

[glad coyote]

insta disconnect

[lean heart]

whether or not you can actually log in is a diff question

[glad coyote]

good luck

[compact knot]

loading bar is edging me

[next canopy]

I’m in

[lean heart]

blue bar boss

[covert blaze]

🫦

[cedar edge]

LET ME IN

[lavish sage]

anyone have 10.2 talent tree link

[remote brook]

are there supposed to be new quests available?

[lavish sage]

yes /

[urban nimbus]

Should I play a human or mechagon warrior btw?

Thinking of choosing between the two at the moment.

[olive wraith]

Niffen

[clever path]

Human is BiS atm

Regardless of faction

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok. Let me guess, cause of racial anti-cc ability?

[clever path]

Human Spirit passive

[urban nimbus]

Oh ok

[snow edge]

There are talents in the pins, they shouldn’t be used with existing tier

[urban nimbus]

Going to level a 70 human.

Hope it doesn't take that long.

[clever path]

+1% secondaries from all sources is kinda good

[urban nimbus]

Isn't it 2%?

[clever path]

Use your War Within boost

Pretty sure it's 1%

[urban nimbus]

Did not preorder yet lol

[clever path]

Now you have an excuse

[urban nimbus]

Isn't leveling fast anyway, like a day or so fast?

[clever path]

It's pretty fast, but iirc you need a group

[urban nimbus]

Fair enough.

I usually do lfg and questing for xp.

[lavish sage]

ye i just wanted to see if t30 talents changed

[urban nimbus]

Shame I did not do it durring Turbulent Timeways.

[clever path]

I was too lazy playing Pokemon lmao

But I'm already Human War

[urban nimbus]

Hope missing the xp boost from it is not worth a panic over.

[lavish grove]

Also anniversary soon for xp boost

[urban nimbus]

Yeah but I want to level now.

Hope I can finish to level 70 by tommorow.

[lavish grove]

If you pay someone for boost 60-70 should be easy

[snow edge]

Nothing changes currently

[cedar edge]

talents turbo freaked

[urban nimbus]

I am poor though, only have 150k gold lol.

[hazy storm]

for new season can we already farm for higher level gear? or does that come out next week?

[remote tulip]

whats the main talent build we use for fury atm?

[fickle bluff]

anger management

[young swan]

next

[remote tulip]

AM s2?

or storm of swords

[lucid owl]

are you guys just running the annhilator setup for open world atm?

[snow edge]

It’s still just the same as pre-reset

No talent changes until you pick up the new tier

[lucid owl]

kk ty

[hazy storm]

thank you. are the FAQs talent section updated to 10.2? casue nothing changed

[remote tulip]

oh ok so CSHB

[hazy storm]

oh answered

[lucid owl]

appreciate the dilligence

lol

[remote tulip]

ya idk which build do use since everything is new

[fickle bluff]

nothing has changed

[snow edge]

Well nothing is new

[young swan]

not yet

[fickle bluff]

play the exact same thing you used yesterday

[hazy storm]

thank you

[snow edge]

Hence my comment about it being the same as pre-reset

[remote tulip]

ok got it sorry lol

[full portal]

what is the shandris scouting report? Should I use it?

[fickle bluff]

skips the 10.1.7 quests on alts

[full portal]

I have it on my main

[hollow hare]

can we still craft 447 items?

[left perch]

you can still craft ingenuity items if you want my bro

[fickle bluff]

you needed to have crafted the crests already

dont think you can now theyre grey items

[tidal mirage]

😭

[full token]

getting a lot of 1h... is SMF viable at all?

[fickle bluff]

loot spec arms and stop getting them

[full token]

yeah was late to that

i was arms loot spec and wq still gave me a 1h

[compact crater]

such a single mided individual

[olive wraith]

What ilvl is wq

[full token]

431.. upgradeable to 450

[olive wraith]

Poggers

[compact crater]

is m0 allrdy higher ilvl now?

or next week?

[olive wraith]

Start of new season

[compact crater]

ok

[olive wraith]

So next week

[compact crater]

and whats the best way to get the 90 drakes crest this week?

[olive wraith]

Imagine m0 dropping bigger ilvl than 20s

Drake is hero track?

Or champ

[compact crater]

i think champ

[olive wraith]

Heroic raid and 12-15 keys

Maybe 11

[compact crater]

but they dont drop the new chrests dont theyß

[olive wraith]

No

[compact crater]

was talking about the new ones

[olive wraith]

Can we get new ones yet

[compact crater]

yep

[olive wraith]

Probably can’t get 90 drake

[compact crater]

i saw max getting 2 each from plating dream seeds

but then you have to plant 45 of them

[olive wraith]

You sure it was drake?

That seems kinda broken

[compact crater]

i´m sure it was drake

its whelping, drake, wyvern, aspect

and he got drakes

[olive wraith]

Oh drake must be veteran track then

[compact crater]

and most preperation guides also say that you should get 90 drake crests this week

looks to me that drake is champion

[olive wraith]

Hmm

Oh it stops at 463 that’s why

I guess that makes sense

Planting 45 times seems obnoxious

[compact crater]

yeah

there has to be other ways to obtain them

[tall goblet]

gearing my warrior for this patch what specc should i be without any teir set?

[olive wraith]

Whichever you plan on being

[tall goblet]

on wowhead it only shows a t30 and t31 specc

raging blow or bloodthirst

[olive wraith]

Oh you mean talents?

[tall goblet]

what should i do without either

yep

[olive wraith]

Raging blow with am

[tall goblet]

and then change to bloodthirst when i get 4set?

[olive wraith]

2p

[compact crater]

when you get 2p you change build

[tall goblet]

sounds good ty

[olive wraith]

By bloodthirst I’m assuming you mean anni

[tall goblet]

whatever wh has listed as t31

were the other world events like dreamsurges and fyrakks assault supposed to give upgraded gear?

[olive wraith]

I think so

[tall goblet]

i went to the flake vendor and theyre still selling 402 so i went back to the dream lol

[olive wraith]

I think the events themself might give higher ilvl

Not sure though

[valid moon]

No ravager on M+ build?

[edgy widget]

Reminder: Nothing important changes until you actually get T31, next week at the earliest

[valid moon]

Thanks Arch

[whole pier]

whats the best race for m+?

[serene vessel]

dwarf/NE

[olive wraith]

Not for t31

[whole pier]

whats good about nightelf?

[serene vessel]

shadowmeld

u can do a lot of cheese tactics with shadowmeld as well as it helps you do certain pulls

[whole pier]

interesting i heard human was also good but is that incorrect?

[serene vessel]

humans never a bad dps class for m+