i cant wait for prot warr tallents tbh
#protection
cinder storm
Unless dks damage is sent to a pit, I don't see how it won't be close to being meta in df with tier being added as a talent
cinder storm
You can still do a lot of damage without gavel, and you can go from 1 bonestorm stack to 9
zealous willow
The interesting part is the vampiric blood tallent , that red its cd and the other one that explode for the dmg u selfhealed durning vampiric it might be big aoe dps in high keys
and u can have that with tier and lege bonus from shadowlands
cinder storm
And, we don't know of they won't add eventually another broken 2H
zealous willow
i think they will try to please most classes in df
we might get a good shield something
urban portal
Hopefully they add a broken 1h
urban portal
Unless dks damage is sent to a pit, I don't see how it won't be close to being m...
Watch them zero out every aura buff in 10.0
Dk and prot warrior goes to gutter in dps
cinder storm
urban portal
I don’t think dk does abusurd damage rn if you look at sims
Especially on st
If you don’t have gavel
zealous willow
they are rly good ,cus they are not trading anythjing for being immortal
- this passive haste from new seasonal affix might make them a lot broken with rune regens and blood boil spams
strong forum
Unless dks damage is sent to a pit, I don't see how it won't be close to being m...
Bro it all comes down to numbers
Just looking at talents doesn't tell any story
odd tree
Unless dks damage is sent to a pit, I don't see how it won't be close to being m...
idk, they nerfed it hard when they made it a talent. only 1s extension and no strength buff. yes they'll still have great parry, but keeping it up won't be as easy, that's why the planned nerf earlier in this tier was changed.
strong forum
Bdks uptime on DRW will plummet
odd tree
^
odd tree
0.33s
strong forum
They won't have 80%+ uptime on DRW anymore, not even close
So yeah, just wait and see
odd tree
the only thing that might save it is now deathstrike also extends
strong forum
Nerf said gavel is worse than a haste/vers weapon for fort weeks
strong forum
So clearly gavel isn't OP enough
strong forum
Nerf didnt have a 285 until yesterday
272 gavel is still a 3k dps gain LOL
If you really think that a 278 haste/vers is better than 272 gavel
strong forum
Then sorry, but you have the real big fucking dumb
dawn canyon
There is this take nome has on him
dawn canyon
Ok so
Essentially
Nerf is really good at dungeons
But not the best at the classes
strong forum
Also, gaga knows
dawn canyon
minor helm
strong forum
What a cunt
drifting fable
nome is his own hero 
strong forum
Be the hero you want in your life
dawn canyon
The Artist
minor helm
Crit called me a big stupid idiot head and he spit on me when I asked him for help
No he would never
strong forum
Was he wrong tho?
minor helm
odd tree
sounds about right
drifting fable
lament musk
wtf
sick sentinel
refuse to roll orange or teal or purple
dawn canyon
I roll dice
minor helm
dawn canyon
I got 7 eyes
zealous willow
Try to predict me dps meta in s4 please
sick sentinel
45 reknown, lvl 55 75%
minor helm
Arms #1
dawn canyon
Try to predict me dps meta in s4 please
Wl ww rog
BDK hpal
Or pri idk
Idc rather
sick sentinel
shame NF paladin never took off, has to be stonks with WF rogue and like melee huntar
sick sentinel
banner
intervene for DR
you can use banner to line up with whenever you pull a lust and nuke boss so the party gets a ++% to primary
whenever they drop all their crap too
urban portal
banner lasts for like 5 seconds
urban portal
you can use banner to line up with whenever you pull a lust and nuke boss so the...
they dont get a % to primary
sick sentinel
trippl warlock
urban portal
unless you are talking about enemi
which is trash
its the bis ilvl parse farming cov
you walk into mythic jailer naked
press summer
and die
zealous willow
after survival nerf are we gona see mm shine ?
dawn canyon
Or both if i get my pala off his ass
dawn canyon
after survival nerf are we gona see mm shine ?
Who knows
zealous willow
i cant ressist my self to lvl up new blood elf looking mm hunter 😦
sonic crag
Is this correct?
urban portal
1.3 cpm on execute
sonic crag
Hmm. Missed some executes for sure. Thanks
sonic crag
thats a +15 SD btw
jagged pier
okay your revenege and SS are still low
cobalt seal
Toxic
verbal hill
meat hook or grim codex in vault, any good?
dawn canyon
book n hook
verbal hill
what
dawn canyon
issa meme
lofty widget
neither of those are particularly good
verbal hill
what about for fury or arms?
drifting fable
major socket
verbal hill
😦
lofty widget
sounds like tokens to me
drifting fable
take that
dawn canyon
ez
lofty widget
thts good
drifting fable
primary stat go up 
verbal hill
😄
chrome falcon
should i open vault in prot for 7 ilvl upgrade on shield
or arms/fury to get a mythic gavel to troll my dps
drifting fable
theres only 1 more vault where it matters so send it for the gavel tbh
shut summit
def troll
chrome falcon
went for fury so i had a shot at the 285 1h at least but missed it
we'll get em next time
strong forum
i gots a socket
sick sentinel
false accuser 278
zealous willow
Any of u saw the new dungeons , if yes, are they cool?
undone verge
personally I dont really like necro
undone verge
think the minigame is too gimicky
chrome falcon
You just press banner and don’t have to think about it
There isn’t really a minigame
Banner doesn’t change your playstyle
Yeah that’s just
The prot warrior minigame
Aka the game
toxic pewter
Any of u saw the new dungeons , if yes, are they cool?
I've seen both a lot on twitch and they are great. Art team hit it out of the park once again!!
toxic pewter
Oh dang true
undone verge
im not saying its hard but it bores me
chrome falcon
But
That’s not necro then
That’s just warrior
The playstyle would be identical without banner
None of your gameplay would change
undone verge
damage would be a lot less annoying without banner
chrome falcon
What’s annoying about it though
undone verge
keeping it up on certain fights
tanks become glorified arcade games and blizzard wonders why no one plays them
urban portal
i think its quite the opposite
chrome falcon
Are all games not just glorified arcade games
urban portal
people believe that tanking is just trying to survive and snoozefest otherwise
bores them
"oh lemme just press mitigation when a tank hit comes"
thats what average wow players think
drifting fable
tanks are just dps but things hit us
urban portal
raid tanking alternates from snoozing to fighting for your life
drifting fable
depends on the fight but yes tanks usually get the easiest mechanics
undone verge
bro all prot warrior is for me right now is keep banner up dont worry about taunting cause I always have aggro
its super boring
and keys as necro is just a snoozfest
drifting fable
🤷♂️ reroll ig
waxen orbit
and keys as necro is just a snoozfest
You mind if I ask your CPM?
lofty widget
you can have high cpm and be bored with the spec
waxen orbit
Cool
undone verge
one sec in key
urban portal
and kyrian is fun to you?
undone verge
more fun than necro
urban portal
pressing a big dam button every 45 seconds and proceed to regular rotation?
not even big dam
medium dam
then maybe you just dont like the spec
necro doesnt change your playstyle
it just makes it faster
kyrian literally doesnt change your playstyle
cds on cd
cinder storm
If he's not doing high keys kyrian is fine, specially if it's more fun
For him at least
You do you big boy
undone verge
You do you big boy
❤️
robust surge
man prot warriors do dirty things to mord'retha
cinder storm
Why are you hitting yourself?
urban portal
until i get baited into SRing a death bolt
undone verge
necro doesnt change your playstyle
yes necro doesnt change the buttons you press, and Its super fun on fights like sausage and rygelon or skolex, but its not fun for m+ because you dont have that instant aggro gen of spear. And m+ rotation is a glorified ST rotation since you spend outburst on SS for rage gen to fuel banner. Spear is also more interesting in m+ because of its tether aspect and short cd with mikanikos which allows for lots of kiting
Im not disputing its good, or not fun for you, but thats just my thoughts
zenith vine
that bad huh
waxen orbit
yes necro doesnt change the buttons you press, and Its super fun on fights like ...
While I heavily disagree, the way you voiced your opinion in a civil and reasonable way is respectable
👍
open bluff
but its not fun for m+ because you dont have that instant aggro gen of spear.
if you don't have instant aggro in m+ as any covenant, the covenant isn't your issue
waxen orbit
You also stated why you prefer Spear and why it’s more engaging and gratifying from your perspective. We need that type of discussion more here rather than the typical shit of:
“I think X is good.”
“X is bad.”
“You’re wrong.”
“Nah you.”
cinder storm
🧟♂️ > 🦅 > 🧚 > 🦇
mighty valley
civil discourse is bad. you're wrong
waxen orbit
dusky mica
I think they should bake the gameplay aspect of banner into Avatar. As in, you generate rage and you extend avatar by spending rage.
strong forum
but im gonna miss playing around outburst and banner
mighty valley
as someone who was venthyr prot all the way up until 9.1.5 i support people following their hearts
waxen orbit
I think they should bake the gameplay aspect of banner into Avatar. As in, you g...
This
strong forum
I think they should bake the gameplay aspect of banner into Avatar. As in, you g...
well thats kinda what AM is for
i agree, but AM already kinda is there
so youd double up on that part, feels kinda weird
open bluff
10.0 AM: rage spent extends avatar rather than reduces its cd 
waxen orbit
Pls no
open bluff
would feel like shit but i can see blizzard pulling something like that
chrome falcon
10.0 AM: not in the game
dusky mica
Also if they're gonna make the smurf spear a baseline spell it needs to be chains, not beams of blue light. More like Diablo Barb chains
waxen orbit
^
undone verge
imagine if hunters got wild spirits
waxen orbit
Also if they're gonna make the smurf spear a baseline spell it needs to be chain...
More aesthetically fitting with the class and also not as fucking brutal on my eyes and hard to see with swirlies on the ground
dusky mica
I'm scared of the boring shit were likely to get in our tree, man. Warrior always left till last with the locks.
waxen orbit
Rend and bleed shout looks promising so far
urban portal
why i love condemn
waxen orbit
But I’m huffing copium
urban portal
because im -1 button
hell ye
i love not having a covenant
and struggle with 22s
urban portal
rend is no longer a crit damage buff tho
urban portal
rend is a dogshit maintenance button
tbf you are only going to cast it once
and refresh it with TC forever
mighty valley
i would accept that
urban portal
and the bleed generates rage (hopefully)
open bluff
a button you push once is just dumb, rather bake rend into TC directly
waxen orbit
Make it apply from Execute and bake in Ashen Juggernaut as a talent choice
urban portal
a button you push once is just dumb, rather bake rend into TC directly
pretty sure the only reason rend is a button is for non prot
waxen orbit
mighty valley
who's gonna tell us all to take it to the other channel
dusky mica
which expac was the rend expac for Arms.. was it WoD?
urban portal
so arms would still maintain it
urban portal
but banner is on gcd
strong forum
exactly
waxen orbit
just dont have it on GCD
This
strong forum
its FUCKING AWFUL
dusky mica
I remember tabbing 3 mobs over and over as arms, it was pretty cringe.
cinder nova
I hope they're gonna take a lot of stuff back off GCD
toxic pewter
im excited for the age of bleedwarr
toxic pewter
true
strong forum
and look how shit their threat it
or bdk
if BDK didnt have 3 weapons their threat wouldnt exist
cinder nova
Just make outburst a passive and make it not shit to hit TC over SS in cleave
dusky mica
On the other trees a lot of old shit has returned.
So were probably getting silence on throw back, disrupting shout, flags
waxen orbit
Flags
mighty valley
please no flags
cinder storm
Flags?
waxen orbit
MoP
dusky mica
In mop we had 3 banners/flags
mighty valley
i will accept one flag, and that's a banner, on my back
cinder storm
They worked similar to banner?
waxen orbit
Nah they were like totems
dusky mica
One was a demo shout copy. One was a challenging shout copy. And the good one increased crit and crit damage.
waxen orbit
Was godawful for PVP balance and also just felt clunky incorporating in a PVE environment
But that’s just my take
dusky mica
As nom said, we used the shit ones to move around in pvp mostly, they were kinda shit in raid
toxic pewter
im down for banners to come back
dusky mica
Crit banner was pretty good though as we also had vengeance back then. So Garrosh solo tanking was a banger.
I can see banners of some form in the tree. Maybe as part of those 'pick this or that' combo nodes
waxen orbit
If we get that prepare for literally only the crit banner to be taken until +28 and above where demo banner is taken
chrome falcon
no shot we get a crit dam+ banner
dusky mica
Banners were a bit annoying on the ol' keybinds though
waxen orbit
Personally, I prefer everyone to be OP and just tune up the scale of the mobs
👍
Makes for more fun gameplay
8.3, 7.3
dusky mica
I prefer everyone to suck and Prot Warrior be OP.
waxen orbit
dusky mica
This is how it should be
open gazelle
What trinkets we rocking next season? I mainly enjoy defensive ones btw
shut summit
rdm / aegis / ows
open gazelle
What is rdm and ows can’t remember
cobalt seal
In state warrior gonna be, defensives trinkets aren't needed
carmine pine
Brew
cobalt seal
has he consider pressing buttons?
urban portal
thats skill issue
carmine pine
I asked
urban portal
ripping aggro is actually hard
carmine pine
Lol
carmine pine
Doing double his p1 dps
urban portal
hes not pressing buttons then
carmine pine
12k in p1
carmine pine
It's hard out here for a prot trying to blast
carmine pine
The most hes done in p1 is 8k but it was just for 1 pull
So hes obviously just not pressing his buttons
carmine pine
Its bad...
minor helm
Send one that makes me look good tho
carmine pine
At least the blood dk we had last kill could semi keep threat
carmine pine
I either start sandbagging my dmg in p1 or rip aggro and die from the debuff
urban portal
and yoink a CE
minor helm
You’d be surprised
urban portal
@carmine pine you got room in your guild
ill be a 2nd prot warrior
it has to be good
carmine pine
Lol
minor helm
4 woyer
carmine pine
Blessed wf group
urban portal
but anyways
brew literally cannot use their resources to survive
their energy does not correlate into survival
so you are really curious what hes using his globals on
vivifying the raid?
lusty tiger
Anyone else unable to play other tanks because zzz? I actually have no desire to touch a different tank spec anymore why have you all forsaken my with this fun
If I can’t get a key on my hunter going in 5 min I switch to prot every time and never regret it
primal cape
i just play dk doing big pulls then team is wiping and i can blame healer not dealing with bursting
waxen orbit
Damn I slacked hard this season
For the record, this shit is cap
I ain't never play with frost or fury bro
Cap
urban portal
Dang raider is teaching us the 2s meta
waxen orbit
I could've went harder than top 30 if I just comitted man, three 27s on fort/bolster hardest dungeons in the same day :/
Damn
minor helm
For the record, this shit is cap
Not even a good comp
waxen orbit
Okay what in the name of Christ am I looking at
minor helm
carmine pine
My top comp isnt even on my war =*(
drifting fable
holy shit
waxen orbit
Not even a good comp
"babe wake up, new meta comp just dropped"
minor helm
strong forum
drifting fable
this is the one i was waiting for tbh
carmine pine
Now that's a comp
urban portal
How can a comp have neither st nor aoe
strong forum
Good enough to time 24s relatively comfortably
carmine pine
Because it has giant dicks
primal mauve
Hey guys where can I find a video on how to keep banner up for necrolord prot warrior...or can someone explain it to me?
grave crane
Go hit a target dummy and practice is really it. Use LS with the conduit and hit SS as long as your not gonna overcap rage. Use IP to dump rage
Charge weave and intervene on CD with reprisal
primal mauve
Do you guys use both shield block charges as soon as you can?
grave crane
You’ll get a feel for it but I use charge and then one SB and then intervene usually then another SB but I’m also not as good as the other guys in here
primal mauve
I got a lot of dumb questions, I tried necro and couldnt get that insane uptime youtubers are talking about so I went back to nightfae even if it isnt optimal at all
strong forum
If you can't get the uptime going then kyr is your best option after that
NF is fine too
ocean yoke
you can still run fae/kyrian especially if youre doing lower content, you just wont reach the level that necro can
primal mauve
im run +18-19 on my druid (i know its easier) because I feel like the warrior is too squishy. So I must be doing something wrong
chrome falcon
Post logs if you have them
wild hemlock
i think im addicted to prot pally...
primal mauve
my prot warrior does like 13 keys lol
wild hemlock
holy fucking fun
wild hemlock
shits crack
grave crane
Just play what you want, and if your feeling squishy your probably not blocking hits or using reprisal
wild hemlock
right into the veins
dawn canyon
prot warrior lives off of proper play
and the best way to find ways to improve
is logs
strong forum
If you think any tank is squishy below like +27s then you're 100% missplaying/have a bad group
chrome falcon
If you feel squishy then swapping a defensive buff for an aoe nuke is not the play
dawn canyon
even from 13s
primal mauve
K ill post logs when I get home
grave crane
Yeah people not kicking in DOS is gonna be a bad time
dawn canyon
dos gone soon 
strong forum
Thank god
dawn canyon
dawn canyon
grave crane
It’s German. For The SL dungeon The
But actually interested for legion and BFA dungeons
primal mauve
ALso to use reprisal effectively do I intervene someone and immediatly charge back...or do I walk back?
jagged pier
If you think any tank is squishy below like +27s then you're 100% missplaying/ha...
tanks are squishy wish someone would have told me
waxen orbit
ALso to use reprisal effectively do I intervene someone and immediatly charge ba...
SB = good
Charge gives SB
ocean yoke
ALso to use reprisal effectively do I intervene someone and immediatly charge ba...
youll want to intervene a melee rather than intervening out then charging in as it wastes a free revenge. you can generally walk out to charge back in fairly easily
grave crane
Walk back but just intervene a melee
primal mauve
youll want to intervene a melee rather than intervening out then charging in as ...
ahhhh
lol
ocean yoke
the free revenge proc is ez bait to reset shield slam cd
sweet summit
do you need zereth mortis full quest line on alt to get 278 conduits?
no, covenant campaign
drifting fable
the revered on enlightened gives like 239 or some shit
prime oyster
New to prot, I got a 278 Viscera of Coalesced Hatred, is that just as good as a 272 Codex or should I keep trying for Codex?
grave crane
Codex bad
sweet summit
and will do more damage
prime oyster
oh pog
sweet summit
and probably more healing too
drifting juniper
i've done covenant campagins
but it says i need souls entwined and keystone hero
if its zereth mortis q line i cba tbh
lofty widget
it is
prime oyster
keystone hero is 3k dungeon score I think
distant crystal
souls entwined is completing the ZM campaign
drifting juniper
what a load of bullshit
drifting juniper
i got unity to avoid that thing on alts
distant crystal
are we talking about the 278 conduit thing?
drifting juniper
yeah
distant crystal
yeah the campaign part is fairly quick
the hard part is 3k io/elite pvp/full mythic clear
grave crane
You need 3k io or all that shit lol
distant crystal
i never bothered w/ 3k on my raid main 😮
just got CE last week but still can't get it because I played a melee alt for lords of dread lol
sweet summit
drifting fable
i wonder what causes it to double up the classes like that
unless you really did run with 2 bms all season
modern brook
<:wicked:937093876857045012>
This comp is like one of those high school movies where the cool guy (you) has to make the nerd (your team) hot
chrome falcon
thank you blizzard very cool.
very good expansion.
(those are my most run dungeons and yes that it votw at the top with over 50 runs)
grave crane
How big of a gain was the trinket from vault?
grave crane
Damn so actually legit
strong forum
Ye it is
chrome falcon
like 6-7% of my dam on most ST fights in raid
grave crane
Did you get it Matt
grave crane
Worth 50 runs?
grave crane
Oof
sweet summit
i wonder what causes it to double up the classes like that
this was our genuine comp
strong forum
So I zoned out
strong forum
So it's actually taric
drifting juniper
You need 3k io or all that shit lol
i am 3k but my campagin is 3/7
strong forum
I thought it was some hearthstone taric lookalike
drifting juniper
since this is an alt
mighty valley
i worked at riot five years, do not speak of league of legends in here
chrome falcon
got diamond maining taric jungle then stopped playing entirely
drifting fable
wait it really makes you do the questline for that conduit thing?
chrome falcon
just like i hit 3k io then stopped doing m+ entirely
sweet summit
i lvoe riot games
drifting fable
on top of KSH?
sweet summit
io love legaue ogf legens
chrome falcon
if you installed the game it took up too much of your life
cinder storm
League of degens
strong forum
League is what turned me into a person who doesnt play without a reward structure
Cuz that game really doesn't give you anything for playing it
Except "yeah okay I just lost time"
ionic fern
Depends what you want.
drifting fable
thats pretty much how i was at the end of my life on it
modern brook
League is the game with the big cat that's never good right?
strong forum
I want stuff to show for having done it
drifting fable
just literally was having 0 fun and only going for rank
ionic fern
I want stuff to show for having done it
Play ranked.
Get higher rank.
There you go.
ionic fern
😂
ionic fern
You get stuff to open boxes.
Etc
I haven't bought a skin in a while
And still get skins
strong forum
Can buy all of that
ionic fern
🤷
drifting fable
yay boxes
ionic fern
I mean, you do you.
I enjoy League - provides me with a sense of accomplishment if i outplay the opponent etc.
drifting fable
i hate the RNG F2P skin system anyways
strong forum
Nah I'm long past that
drifting fable
i almost never got a shard for a character i enjoyed
sick sentinel
Ew league of legends
strong forum
Idk the "start at 0 every 40min" is annoying
Which is also why I don't like rogue like games
Couldn't play hades for longer than 20min without being bored
And it's omega praised
modern brook
Nom confirmed casual
ionic fern
😄
strong forum
"hey I finally got a build going oh I died, guess I start at 0 again, ah well I'm hard gated until I complete another 500 runs to get more unlocks to best the game"
chrome falcon
blizzard can fuck off with emailing me about the 50% xp bonus btw
there's exactly 1 email i want to receive from blizzard right now and it's not about fucking xp bonus
drifting fable
i mean theres typically overall progression to work towards in rogues
ionic fern
"hey I finally got a build going oh I died, guess I start at 0 again, ah well I'...
JEah, i'm not gonna start arguing with you as it won't lead anywhere. 😂
People enjoy different games/accomplishments and it's totally fine.
strong forum
Ye
I'm just built really poorly when it comes to game enjoyment
Like omega bad taste
drifting fable
i see what you mean by league poisoning that haha
strong forum
Skill progression like in rocket league is something that doesn't interest me at all
sick sentinel
there's exactly 1 email i want to receive from blizzard right now and it's not a...
Woah calm down there buddy
chrome falcon
i will not
mighty valley
woah matta's stopped being an anime boy
distant crystal
he wants the email that says he's unbanned from chat
mighty valley
and of course you all talked about league of legends
chrome falcon
excuse me i was not being a fucking anime boy
sick sentinel
His the main protagonist in a high school anime
molten rivet
in m+ when do you go best served cold and when do you go booming voice ?
strong forum
BSC does win in raw aoe dmg, but banner management and boss dmg is better with booming
molten rivet
k
strong forum
Like I've done up to 16k dps with booming voice
molten rivet
overall ?
strong forum
Ye
chrome falcon
BSC wins in raw damage but that's not counting the extra avatars and banner duration from BV
molten rivet
feels like i haev to many globals to setup burst window tho, dno :p
chrome falcon
you don't have a burst window
molten rivet
when do you use last stand these days?
molten rivet
what if you BL 1st pull with banner, do you last stand after lust ?
strong forum
Nah
verbal hill
So many buttons man
chrome falcon
why would you do that
molten rivet
idk 😄 thats why im asking 😛
strong forum
LS + Lust means instant 30sec banner duration stacked up
chrome falcon
literally the only button you don't press on cooldown
is shield wall
and i guess spell reflect
everything else just slam when it's up
molten rivet
how many globals should you wait with outburst window for SS over TC?
regal yacht
Will protection be get any buffs to climb the tank ranking in S4?
strong forum
2 at most
molten rivet
ait
chrome falcon
max 2 but just don't be in that situation in the first place
put TC on cooldown when you're close to a proc
mighty valley
slap yourself every time and remind yourself to plan ahead in the future
molten rivet
how can i avoid that dont you send SS instant always ?
mighty valley
you can miss one global to slap yourself
chrome falcon
Will protection be get any buffs to climb the tank ranking in S4?
almost certainly not considering we're already very strong
molten rivet
is it better to hold SS ?
chrome falcon
if i'm about to outburst i'll skip SS for one global to guarantee i get to outburst it next global
molten rivet
it stacks up right, if you use 2 revenge in a row it gives you a stack ?
mighty valley
make sure you don't empty rage so you can hit some revenges for reset hopes
regal yacht
Is there a max time of banner you can stack up?
lofty widget
no, can keep it going forever
chrome falcon
i think they mean like if there's a max duration
strong forum
Longest duration that's been stacked was 1min
strong forum
My longest one was only like 40ish seconds or smth like that
I'm getting old
Washed up
molten rivet
guess pf boss with red sliem and lust
strong forum
1 of the bosses to stack it
regal yacht
I seem to have alot of trouble sustaining it. Do you bind SB or IP to you other abilities to keep from rage Capping?
strong forum
I seem to have alot of trouble sustaining it. Do you bind SB or IP to you other ...
No
Just have an easily accessible bind for IP
And for your general rotation
molten rivet
Cuz you can omega execute perfect reprisal weave there
what does that mean ?
strong forum
Ghost boss in Top let's you charge extremely often
So you get literally perfect reprisal value
And if the boss is long enough in execute you can stack up some dummy long banners
regal yacht
Best I can do is sustain a static number with in combat then as soon as I'm transfer pack my duration is dropping and I can't recover the time.
molten rivet
oh you mean you run out, charge in and interrupt ?
regal yacht
Maybe I need to be charging and intervening more
strong forum
Don't need to interrupt
lofty widget
you just charge when shes casting draw soul or whatever its called
molten rivet
can you reflect the cast ?
strong forum
No
molten rivet
whats sots 😄 ?
strong forum
Shrine of the storm in bfa
molten rivet
oh right
shut summit
you deflect it but yea doesnt do shit
molten rivet
ye run out reflect, good times
sand drum
I wonder what counts as "not behind" like how much to a degree "around" you when block still active :>
tepid nest
I wonder what counts as "not behind" like how much to a degree "around" you when...
id be very interested to know the answer to this too
lofty widget
180 degrees, minus maybe 1 degree to either side
modern brook
^ it's 180 flat cause u can side run and still block
If you can hit your target with auto attacks you can block your target
At least with regards to facings and angles
@sand drum and @tepid nest so yall see it
sick sentinel
Shrine of the storm in bfa
boss 2 and 3 in specific give me pugging nightmare flashbacks
cinder storm
Boss 2, stand on corner until one dies, rest on hill, boss 3 kick anyone who can't do a simple mechanic, yell when people kick your SR
sweet summit
shrine was fucked on higher keys
3rd boss arbsorb shit scaled with fort or some dumb shit like that
sick sentinel
for me SotS experience was macro "STOP INTERRUPTS" and spam it boss 2, pray nobody dies to giga tornadoe, boss 3, pray nobody stupid enough to get hit by orb, making squid game job harder, but you can just pull him like 1 feet away and he resets
more wipes to "can't clear the squid" than any other
cinder storm
3rd boss arbsorb shit scaled with fort or some dumb shit like that
First shield jump on the water and pray you get out on time, second shield soak all the orbs
sweet summit
got to a point where orbs were never enough and you played all in the water
sharp night
3rd boss was bis, get MCed and then td proc as you run to the water and kill your whole group
sick sentinel
it was always more like, the first one if your doing a 10 to 15 key, takes like all 4-5 orbs, and a few hits, and you'd get more and more balls as time went on than what was needed
i think you could just pally bop it away early
sweet summit
3rd boss was bis, get MCed and then td proc as you run to the water and kill you...
repressed memories...
sick sentinel
the team i was with agreement was kite the balls, let ppl hit the balls once squid'd
then attack
sharp night
was also fun on witches
sick sentinel
grevious 3 witches WCM, dear god no
warm plinth
i think you could just pally bop it away early
yeah you could pre-immune it with magic immunities but you had no way of knowing if it was going to go on you
open gazelle
Looks like IP is staying in dragonflightt but last stand is only a 2 min cd, avatar and charge generate more rage, and we get the wall as a talent
sweet summit
charge generates the same rage, they just baked rank 2 into rank 1
open gazelle
^
sweet summit
and avatar already generates 30 rage
the avatar thing was a buff for arms
(i think)
open gazelle
Disregard middle sentence
sick sentinel
it is done
cinder storm
All the people fighting about PI are grey parsers, change my mind
sweet summit
bold statement
dawn canyon
there is 2 ends to it
the "my parse is bad cuz no pi" section
and the people you give Pi to because they are really good
cinder storm
Yeah, the issue are the speed clears, once wlogs finds a way to separate those logs from "normal" ones people will stop crying about it, sadly, community perception something that sometimes guides what Blizz does
But like ion said, parses are something created by players not by them
sick sentinel
you put numbers to anything somebodies going to parse it out
dawn canyon
pi generally okay unless ur a pi less good demo
then its sad because your parse isnt 99 cuz no pi
sick sentinel
anything that can have a high score will have a highscore list
dawn canyon
anything that can have a high score will have a highscore list
in this vein the guy cheated highscored for world record way back
sick sentinel
he's gone through some crazy back cancer or something i heard KJ
dawn canyon
yea
sick sentinel
had to have surgery and people were making fun of him for it
dawn canyon
guy's cool and deserves all the best
sick sentinel
summoning salt is better youtube videos, arcus is my favorite professional speed runner, and then mike matei at the end of list,
carmine pine
my cotanks threat got better after a few more pulls
there was a pull tonight where i ripped like 6 seconds after he taunted in p1 lol
chrome falcon
that ^ also happens to me a lot
i think it's basically unavoidable if you rip 2 outbursted SS in like 3 seconds and one or both crit
carmine pine
even when hes keeping up with me on dps i am out threating him by so much
chrome falcon
no other tank has 50k globals especially that close together
carmine pine
we had a hunter mding him on cd at 1 point
that was the 1 nice thing about when i played veng
i couldnt rip aggro even if i tried
coral marsh
Does cypher gear work in the mage tower/timewalking in general?
forest meadow
it is done
Welcome to the light
ocean yoke
even when hes keeping up with me on dps i am out threating him by so much
oh thank god its not just me ive been having threat rips all the time for jailer it seems in p1
carmine pine
i just want to blast
but if i dont sandbag my dps a bit i just chain rip
and its not a good time
ocean yoke
ive had a few times its getting close just before the tank soaks where i have to sit on my hands
novel temple
hi, im getting back into wow
how're warriors doing pre and post 4p/double legendary?
oh and what addons and weakauras would you all recommend?
also, i looked at the pins. so the tier set weakaura is already a given
sonic crag
Don't attempt any serious content without 4pc and double legendary. Unless you got guild who will carry you I'd stick to low keys until you have tier and leggos
Unless you're super god tier good at prot warrior then who knows. You can overcome a lot with skill, but those power spikes are nuts
mighty valley
Warriors are good but community still thinks they suck so getting into pugs can be hard
vernal vale
Not my best play tonight but i did get mythic skolex
novel temple
so 4p is god like
hardy ridge
just got CE bois!
mortal brook
good work
hardy ridge
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1ymMJqZr4b8YP9fQ#fight=29&type=damage-done this is my log if jakey wants to tell me im shit
low blocked hits
too much rage wasted report me
warm plinth
just got CE bois!
Big congratulations my friend
mighty valley
Congrats!!! That’s huge!!! Banned for bad log
hardy ridge
ty lads ❤️
ionic fern
ionic fern
<@238357283996696576> how many dungeons in your raider.io recap this season
And you?
👀
ionic fern
👀
echo egret
Do we have any idea of the difficulty of fated raids ?
warm plinth
I've heard the affix is kind of laughable
strong forum
Normal heroic and mythic
blazing condor
Good one
ionic fern
Cool.
I usually end with 2 or 3 stars.
echo egret
Most of my guildies are not really interested in spending time wiping again in the raids, so if it’s tuned hard we prob won’t raid at all
ionic fern
Most of my guildies are not really interested in spending time wiping again in t...
Good decision.
onyx vessel
didnt fleshcraft @ionic fern
neither did i probably stacked it up for boss
cuz 2.5m
75% increased rage gen + 80% reduced cd on last stand still couldnt keep banner up 100% of the time
onyx vessel
Cool.
I usually end with 2 or 3 stars.
Ill teach you its called just zug zug
Or run as a 5 man pull whole floor and watch your team die
And be like why you dead
ionic fern
I honestly don't care. 😂
onyx vessel
ionic fern
I only did Torghast for the legendaries
As soon as i got them i bailed
Never touched thme again.
onyx vessel
You and 99% of the playerbase
ionic fern
Also, all i do is run to the floor boss pretty straight and kill it.
onyx vessel
Normally all you need for a perfect run
Ive gotten 200 in speeds before
With like 50%
onyx vessel
Cuz you a team player
Im a solo pleb
Did way to many visions in bfa
Got 2 sets full sockets
ionic fern
Cuz you a team player
Nice one.
onyx vessel
Not a teamplayer eh
Pwarr in a nutshell
Runs ahead healers like i need a second
Banners running fuck you i pull
onyx vessel
Healer shouldnt worry about calling a wait
Fucking urh exists
Then the dps kill vy relic
spice axle
hi guys is there any sheet for blockable/reflectable spells of Season 4 dungeons? or will be?
ionic fern
Pins
wild hemlock
dude u guys... prot pally
sick sentinel
im probably too stupid to play pink prot
wild hemlock
now all i want on prot war is a way to silence and group more mobs
wild hemlock
im probably too stupid to play pink prot
its actually brain dead ez
sick sentinel
i'm gunna roll red prot in the final like 4 days i have left on wow
wild hemlock
literally brain dead
you push your buttons and dont think
push ardent defender wings, divine toll
sick sentinel
oh right? you know how you guys say "i never press my buttons", i used to play world of tanks from 2013-2018
this might explain it
- ret paladin in 2004 wow, then rogue which is both auto attack carried class
grave crane
tried a 17 top yesterday after not playing my warrior for almost amonth or maybe more. went well till ghost wing, no one can kick the bone mages i guess
sick sentinel
tried a 17 top yesterday after not playing my warrior for almost amonth or maybe...
those bone mages suck, but the teal guy soul whatever sucks worser
he can potentially solo your entire group with whatever that spell is, very easily on fort
ionic fern
draenor and legion dungeons will be added too?
Yes, i know. 🙂
spice axle
ty
hard vessel
We are ranked right below dk in naowhs tier list, are you guys rdy for reroll Inc?
sweet summit
NO
strong forum
Nah, cuz 90% of them will be turned off by having to actually play well
grave crane
tier lists ewww
dawn canyon
hello my name is dratnos and today i will ruin 7 specs community perception
- ass rogue
- pwar
- bear
- ret
- your mom
6/7 cba
sick sentinel
5) your mom
urh mom
grave crane
"they just dont bring any utility" and pwar as we all know struggles with magic damage, no i havent played a pwarr but i know they do
dawn canyon
damage
sick sentinel
utility = live longer = do more dps
grave crane
shit i may go watch a dratnos tier list just to see what he says
sick sentinel
yes, survival hunter is very nessecary to survivaling a pug
grave crane
my utility is absolutely blasting 30k SS crits
sick sentinel
and warlock
undone verge
my utility is absolutely blasting 30k SS crits
Anduin SS crits tho
I think my record is 140k
Or was that execute on monstrous
I feel like that was SS but now I’m unsure
grave crane
probably SS its like a 200% modifier then with avatar and DS and banner yeah probably
undone verge
Yeah sounds about right
wild hemlock
has cro been hiding
ionic fern
We are ranked right below dk in naowhs tier list, are you guys rdy for reroll In...
Let brainless people re-roll, it's fine. 🤷
sick sentinel
broken wrist
ionic fern
They will all come over and then be surprised why they are not doing well because they can't keep up with the CPM.:D
cinder storm
Yogi, if you could make anything different from what you've done regarding tanking, what would you change?
sick sentinel
fortified week, with raging and bolstering, or quaking
fight some caster skeleton trash boy and he 1 shots you with an ice bolt at 20% hp
ability wise nothing important comes to mind
chilly brook
Tbh
Remove fort/tyran
Would be the best QoL change they could do on a playability week by week front
sick sentinel
could help for leveling players to see "this attack will be much more deadly in higher difficulties" how boss 2 mists only does 1 arrow on normal, entire party mythic
dawn canyon
Tyra zzz
Idk fort means longer pulls so more aoe
It's cool till kicks oneshot
Truege
strong forum
Affixes need to have positives too
Like the seasonal affixes
Kiss/curse
The only curse affixes are dogshit, and the combination of the least shit is what decides a good week
Which is just bad game design
The dungeons already scale indefinitely
Let that be the deciding factor of difficulty
Not some arbitrary affix fucking you over cuz it just randomly add more hp to mobs or heals them
^
minor helm
sick sentinel
Not some arbitrary affix fucking you over cuz it just randomly add more hp to mo...
compare DG and typhoon and rop to our fear everything in random directions or maybe none
crap, LFR stuck on halondrous when i enter, should be fun
strong forum
I once had a 12min halondrus in lfr
When I first came back to 9.2
That was interesting
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
6 m 19 halondrous here
vernal vale
This
cinder storm
Here's a fun kiss/curse, there's a debuff similar to hakkar's that happens randomly and when you get it you can also spread it to adds, (but make the circle half the size) and if you want to keep it up longer the tank will have to chain pull since it refreshes once it jumps to adds but not to players
verbal viper
hi folks, kinda new here to this discord - been tanking lower keys on my warrior as kyrian - do you guys prefer necrolord or kyrian?
urban portal
low keys i pref kyrian
wild hemlock
i even still run kyr on 15-18s tyr week
my banner up time is ass unless its a boss on tyran weeks
need to get better at chain pulling and pooling some IP's while running pack to pack
vernal vale
hi folks, kinda new here to this discord - been tanking lower keys on my warrior...
As someone who's been playing my alt horde toon recently I prefer necro in basically every situation. My alt is only double legendary and no tier.
The one time I like another covenant it's going Fae for AA so I can better interrupt/stun casters.
Pugs at low keys are even worse about interrupts
unreal sinew
just hit 60 on my prot warr (loved tanking with it while leveling)
however, im just at a complete loss on what to do from here
should i just focus on ZM until the legendary?
use LFR and hope to get a piece i can turn into a set piece?
is there a cheat sheet or a good Vid i can watch for all this crap? lol
patent osprey
focus on double legendary -> play kyrian until then
prio shield -> wep -> rest stuff
ocean yoke
just hit 60 on my prot warr (loved tanking with it while leveling)
however, im j...
id focus on ZM instead of hurting yourself in LFR. ZM will get to probably around mid 230s on its own+the free belt. that + your main leggo +a crafted 262 boe off the ah will get you to a good starting spot
patent osprey
with or without 4 set it's not too different so it can be a bit delayed
u also most likely won't have the material to force set pieces in the catalyst
mellow bridge
lofty widget
still 100, just gotta time your banners properly