you always could?
#protection
sweet summit
lavish oracle
BFA warrior, pls
waxen orbit
Only every 1 second?
strong forum
mighty valley
haste
strong forum
it feels slower than 1sec
mighty valley
actually haste does nothing
sweet summit
it's not hasted
mighty valley
i am a fool
sweet summit
yeah
strong forum
often i cant press it fast enough
mighty valley
send me to hell
sweet summit
smhing
waxen orbit
Okay but still what simian mouthbreathing idiot is trying to make us play TC build
sweet summit
that waS ME
mighty valley
the one that was very popular in bfa?
sweet summit
get owned
lavish oracle
love to clap
waxen orbit
BFA felt awful hitting TC that much frfr
sweet summit
idk i enjoyed it
sweet summit
not sure if i enjoyed the tc spam or the fact that the spec was so fluid
but i enjoyed bfa warrior
sharp dew
Hitting tc in bfa feels better than hitting revenge, not even dps wise but just feeling wise. Revenge feels bad imo
lavish oracle
Revenge is the least interesting button we have
sweet summit
wth
sharp dew
Worst animation, worst sound, worst everything
drifting fable
these are some hot takes
muted nexus
the animation is t-rash
lavish oracle
would rather hit WW, tbh
waxen orbit
Let me get this straight
mighty valley
revenge has no theme anymore. just give it the legion treatment and make it hella cool
sweet summit
how do you recognize an animation
waxen orbit
You guys don’t like an ability
sweet summit
don't think i've ever just
waxen orbit
Because it sounds weird
lavish oracle
I don't like revenge because the frontal hitbox is weird
lavish oracle
I miss half the shit I'm looking at for no reason
waxen orbit
That’s a skill issue lol
drifting fable
it hits 180 in front of you?
lavish oracle
That’s a skill issue lol
lmao, this is the most fighting game response you could have given
sharp dew
No contest
waxen orbit
I mean I’m not trying to fight man
lavish oracle
no like
waxen orbit
I’m just pointing out it’s a 180 cone
waxen orbit
Ohhh okay
muted nexus
lavish oracle
skill issue, lol
fallow osprey
There are entire departments in game companies whose sole job is sound and animation design so you may not care about sound/animation but to pretend like it’s a minor thing is silly
lavish oracle
is the most FGC thing you can say
waxen orbit
Took me a sec kekw
waxen orbit
There are entire departments in game companies whose sole job is sound and anima...
I know, I’m literally looking at going into the field
fallow osprey
Congrats
mighty valley
the difference in feedback between when you implement something with bad temp sound/vfx vs. good temp stuff is night and day
fallow osprey
It is
mighty valley
animation is tougher in wow for sure since the character is small and the screen crowded but sound is a huge part of satisfaction
waxen orbit
Maybe give it a lightning arc or something with a reverb crackle
lavish oracle
I also don't think it's a 180 degree cone but I'd have to check
waxen orbit
If you really like the Thor aesthetic
waxen orbit
I also don't think it's a 180 degree cone but I'd have to check
Nah it is
drifting fable
it is
mighty valley
i just think if they're embracing it as our consistent rage spender then the "revenge" theme doesn't fit it any more
but it's functional so why would they spend resources on it
waxen orbit
The name is leftover from what Revenge used to be
sharp dew
I’ve just never liked revenge that’s just my opinion though. Legion Antorus shield slam+ip 0 second 20-60rage spamming 110cpm-fun, bfa Thor mode-fun, sl revenge-still enjoy it obviously but just not at the level of the other 2 as far as cool factor
waxen orbit
A single target strike back based on the damage you recently took
mighty valley
it was originally only available when you dodged, blocked, parried
was low damage but very efficient rage:threat
sweet summit
was also ST only
chrome falcon
it hit 2 things in wotlk->mop
sweet summit
had to talent into it hitting a 2nd target in wotlk at least
sweet summit
big fuck dam
mighty valley
anyway it's my pet peeve of prot warrior that doesn't affect how it plays at all
median tulip
There are entire departments in game companies whose sole job is sound and anima...
Pls can we has a better Revenj animation/sound?
mighty valley
it is a bit confusing in the metas where our biggest damage comes from our rage builders
tropic linden
I would like a better spender... Virtually we have 3 spenders, IP, Execute and Revenge, but it's always only 2 on our rotation. And on ST it doesn't fell good to Revenge to spend rage
sweet summit
SB is also a spender :susge:
sweet summit
oh really
chrome falcon
yeah
tropic linden
Or make it barskin like
chrome falcon
dunno why
tropic linden
I can actually spend
sweet summit
nah active mitigation should be spenders
tropic linden
cause with a 16 sec CD is not a real spender
I can't dump range on SB
Would be cool if I could
mighty valley
idk i think it's fine, we have a damage spender and an inefficient off-gcd dump
tropic linden
Idk, but having only revenge and IP as a mean to dump rage don't feel good
Execute is a fun button to press
But only 20% of the fight
wild hemlock
i agree ip sucks but damn with tier warrior is so fun
sweet summit
you'd just like another ST damage spender?
wild hemlock
itll be sad to get our rage and spending cut in half
mighty valley
they could make a single target revenge that's a little better on ST but that's an extra button, do not clutter my bars please
tropic linden
you'd just like another ST damage spender?
Idk what i want, but I know that now is not how I want to be
sweet summit
what's the appeal of having so many spenders?
wild hemlock
but itll be nice nothaving the APM and crazy feedback we have now
chrome falcon
choices
sweet summit
Idk what i want, but I know that now is not how I want to be
that's fair
sweet summit
but having one button for ST, one for 3 targets, one for 5+ targets, one defensive and one execute is just button bloat for no reason?
mighty valley
matta coming in with the "remove AM" hot take
tropic linden
Or make IP mean something
wild hemlock
i dont agree with more buttons but i dont like spamming ip jsut to dump
sweet summit
wait now i am confused
you want outburst to increase rage generation, but you don't like spending so much rage
chilly brook
Okay but still what simian mouthbreathing idiot is trying to make us play TC bui...
TC build was good
dawn canyon
Clappa 
chilly brook
Having a CD that actually sped up the pace of the rotation was quite nice tbh
sweet summit
i agree
tropic linden
Our spenders don't feel good to press a lot of times. Maybe we don't need more spenders, just better spenders
sweet summit
that's a very good point, iroh
trying to think of things that can be done about that though
chilly brook
Everyone is so caught up on the fact that thunderclap itself was so broken but they forget that it made Avatar have a huge impact on the flow of the class every time you pressed it
sweet summit
mighty valley
fuck heroic strike
ionic fern
Please no.
sweet summit
Everyone is so caught up on the fact that thunderclap itself was so broken but t...
if revenge still fucks you're likely not forced to TC every 2nd gcd either
carmine pine
i just want sudden death back as prot
sweet summit
sudden death is good
carmine pine
just felt nice
chilly brook
if revenge still fucks you're likely not forced to TC every 2nd gcd either
Idk unless you’re gonna cap on rage why wouldn’t you?
sweet summit
because revenge would be more damage
waxen orbit
Exactly
chilly brook
Having to press TC every time it’s off CD feels bad
It only feels bad because TC does abysmal damage now
tropic linden
And abysmal rage generation
waxen orbit
Right but it still feels kinda bad even when it did good dam
chilly brook
Wut
Idk man
Pressing a gcd that hit everything for 20k around me every other global felt pretty damn good
mighty valley
why would it feel worse to press button that does big dam + gives rage vs button that does less dam + spends rage
chilly brook
Especially in 8.0 when it meant you could have like 80% uptime on demoralizing shout
That’s kinda a super cooked take
tropic linden
IMO our spenders should be our main dmg source. Not SL
lavish oracle
revenge spends it
waxen orbit
Spenders should be main source of dam
chilly brook
Like that’s a “ha it’s cool to hate on UF build now cuz it was broken amirite guys”
sweet summit
our spenders are our main damage source
urban portal
i think revenge feels bad to press cuz i like the tc sound
waxen orbit
It just feels natural
sweet summit
in SL
chrome falcon
matta coming in with the "remove AM" hot take
this unironically i think
late agrees
disagree with me and get banned
waxen orbit
Like that’s a “ha it’s cool to hate on UF build now cuz it was broken amirite gu...
I mean that’s not what it is
tropic linden
Spenders should be main source of dam
Wut?
mighty valley
i know this is just a typo but i'm memorializing it forever
ionic fern
disagree with me and get banned
Ok, i disagree.
lavish oracle
AM is fun to play with, I don't know why you'd want to remove it
chrome falcon
take it up with late
lavish oracle
just silly
sweet summit
IMO our spenders should be our main dmg source. Not SL
_ _
waxen orbit
AM should be baseline
chilly brook
The only cooked thing about BFA playstyle was that revenge was just so badly undertuned
urban portal
AM is definitely fun but i dont like it baselined
outlaw has AM baselined this tier
their 3 minute CD is effectively 90 seconds
urban portal
but cucked by downtime
ionic fern
AM encourages proper play in the current iteration of the class.
mighty valley
i think it's correct that generally spending rage should be your greatest damage source, but it's ok if sometimes a cooldown flips things around
chilly brook
Spenders should be main source of dam
Technically that’s not even how the spec works now
minor helm
chilly brook
Your biggest source of damage is still shield slam
lavish oracle
On ST, sure
chilly brook
It’s just throttled by CD and mob count
sturdy sable
No your biggest source of damage is spending your rage correctly to have more outbursts
waxen orbit
Not in M+ and rev is still #2 being directly tailed by execute in ST
sturdy sable
Which you then spend on shield slam
waxen orbit
Main dam overall should still be revenge in M+
sturdy sable
If your going to be pedantic do it right
median tulip
AM is definitely fun but i dont like it baselined
AM itself goes baseline, but additional talents are required if you want it to affect different abilities; in Prot you can select to add Shield Wall, Avatar, Demo Shout and Ravager to AM, but the talents are widely spread throughout the tree
sharp dew
Main dam overall should still be revenge in M+
What do you mean bro, don’t you guys all play UF still? 
chilly brook
No your biggest source of damage is spending your rage correctly to have more ou...
Pre outburst fam
lavish oracle
AM itself goes baseline, but additional talents are required if you want it to a...
what would it do baseline if you had to add all those things?
sturdy sable
Oh we are talking about stuff in the past thats currently not relevant?
So in this case you should have heroic strike be one of your main contributors of your damage
median tulip
what would it do baseline if you had to add all those things?
No idea
urban portal
yeah then it as well not be baseline
chilly brook
Oh we are talking about stuff in the past thats currently not relevant?
Even if we’re talking now
And that’s vigilant which is a lot of cleave
median tulip
But that is kinda how the various Druid Berserk abilites work; each empowers the overall Berserk
waxen orbit
And that’s vigilant which is a lot of cleave
Combine your spenders…
lavish oracle
I wouldn't mind that with Avatar, tbh
toxic pewter
Evokers gonna steal our tier
lavish oracle
but I also don't want to be bear 2.0
dawn canyon
we are tanks
sweet summit
you're tank, you're not exactly prioritized for loot with master looter anyway
toxic pewter
I am always prio
strong forum
tank is literally the lowest prio
dawn canyon
ur not getting it
strong forum
its dps > healer > tank
dawn canyon
dps>>heal>tank
toxic pewter
I am number 1 I bow to no scallie
jagged pier
Never get loot again
mighty valley
once upon a time tanks were top prio......
toxic pewter
I will crush them.
lavish oracle
just join a guild that doesn't use master loot
toxic pewter
LOL ok
chilly brook
Combine your spenders…
Ok
Spenders: 3243
Builders minus melee: 3649
Builders:4856
Soooooo
Your builders are still the main source of dam
urban portal
i think its fine to have spender=builder
sweet summit
yeah we heard you the first time, apb
urban portal
fury builder is main damage rn
waxen orbit
Ok
Spenders: 3243
Builders minus melee: 3649
Builders:4856
They’re close
sweet summit
melee does not count lol
waxen orbit
Melee don’t count
chilly brook
It generates rage and resets your main builder
minor helm
Apb gonna say melee counts
mighty valley
this is too much math for a warrior channel
chilly brook
But again
minor helm
Bet
sweet summit
no that's devastator
chilly brook
If it doesn’t count
mighty valley
i preferred the irrational dooming
chilly brook
You’re still behind on spenders
toxic pewter
Apb gonna say melee counts
Wat
minor helm
sharp dew
Lmao what
drifting fable
minor helm
Lemme have it
toxic pewter
I challenge u to a tank off
waxen orbit
toxic pewter
U accept ?
sharp dew
🤣
chilly brook
Your builders do ~11% more dps than your spenders
toxic pewter
🦗
chilly brook
At least according to my log
sick sentinel
ughhh warrior chat going mongo again
minor helm
Of course
sick sentinel
some things never change
carmine pine
sharp dew
Who are you talking to btw apb
toxic pewter
that is in df
minor helm
Gotcha
toxic pewter
Who are you talking to btw apb
they no who day r
chrome falcon
i preferred the irrational dooming
it's not irrational
median tulip
Your builders do ~11% more dps than your spenders
Yeah, but my Spenders heal me, extend banner and reduce the CD on Avatar and SW
blazing condor
what i miss
dawn canyon
sweet summit
nothing, king
toxic pewter
Execute is a builder and a spender
sweet summit
go back to sleep
waxen orbit
what i miss
Apb is fighting shadow people again
chrome falcon
we've seen a bunch of probably high power budget nodes that are lame as frick
median tulip
what i miss
Datamining
chrome falcon
3 lame SL legendaries
blazing condor
toxic pewter
cobalt seal
Sure
toxic pewter
Then I challenge him to a tank off
sweet summit
i really really really don't care
minor helm
blazing condor
#vegan
urban portal
Into havoc
you turn this chat into vengance
toxic pewter
Yes agreed
sweet summit
shut up gg
toxic pewter
It is it’s in a phased situation
waxen orbit
Can you three just get the lube, buy a nice bottle of wine for yourselves, fuck each other and get rid of all the tension?
dawn canyon
Can you three just get the lube, buy a nice bottle of wine for yourselves, fuck ...
wtf
toxic pewter
Thwump want us to recreate his fantasies
blazing condor
me in the corner of the room
toxic pewter
I’ll pass thx
cobalt seal
@sweet summit is getting rage
sharp dew
you turn this chat into vengance
waxen orbit
Quit beefing it’s a discord for a video game
toxic pewter
U first
sweet summit
no
minor helm
waxen orbit
Erga is like an angry stepdad putting up with his two screeching children in the backseat
toxic pewter
Nothing to leak
sweet summit
there is no point
toxic pewter
It’s all available on twitch
sweet summit
so you can leave
toxic pewter
Me too
sweet summit
🙂
blazing condor
i just want <#148897941883584512> to be a human channel again...
🤝 
chilly brook
Yeah, but my Spenders heal me, extend banner and reduce the CD on Avatar and SW
Look I’m just pointing out your spenders aren’t your main source of dam anyways
waxen orbit
LOL
chilly brook
And your best damage per global is a builder
toxic pewter
Best ability is execute
chilly brook
Best ability is execute
Execute is good
toxic pewter
It’s a spender and a builder
sweet summit
?
chilly brook
Massively inflated though comparatively to what it will be in DF
waxen orbit
?
It’s the second time he’s said it, pretty sure he’s baiting
He didn’t get a response the first time
drifting fable
only pretty sure eh
chilly brook
Our spenders are extra propped up by banner currently
toxic pewter
No it gives you rage when you use it and target still lives
chilly brook
Apb always trolly
sweet summit
it refunds
sweet summit
that's not building
strong forum
Its building as much as SB builds...
Just because it feeds the rage feedback loop, doesn't mean it's a rage builder/generator
toxic pewter
You’re getting back rage you wouldn’t normally have if you didn’t use the ability
blazing condor
it can proc SS which in turn builds but doesn't really make it a builder per se
ig
toxic pewter
If you revenge instead of execute
sweet summit
You’re getting back rage you wouldn’t normally have if you didn’t use the abilit...
"getting back"
not "building"
strong forum
its an important difference
toxic pewter
You will lose
strong forum
apb im certain
sweet summit
i will not lose
drifting fable
minor helm
strong forum
youll lose
median tulip
I'm wondering if it's possible to log in as one of the unreleased and look at the spellbook to find out if things have been baselined
blazing condor
losing =/= accepting defeat
minor helm
This is why mwahi liked so much
waxen orbit
🍿
toxic pewter
Massively inflated though comparatively to what it will be in DF
Execute is only going to get stronger in df
chrome falcon
yes but apb is always the one actually starting shit
i don't even respond to him anymore
blazing condor
then dont respond
chrome falcon
i just see 4 angry people
blazing condor
that makes it one less
chrome falcon
and a bunch of "1 blocked message"
chilly brook
Hey guys
toxic pewter
Lol, what have I said that angers people? Execute is a spender, but it also has a built in build mechanic
chilly brook
New class gets to steal our tier now
blazing condor
hey Griff (matt)
chilly brook
sweet summit
banger thwump
waxen orbit
toxic pewter
chilly brook
hey Griff (matt)
Hi dog with crown
strong forum
chilly brook
Who may or may not be goodstuffe
blazing condor
susge
strong forum
more reprisal value
toxic pewter
Prot warrior is low on tier prio anyway
strong forum
oh wait
chilly brook
Actually huge if it applies to charge tbh
minor helm
i will simply not invite evokers to the raid
I told my guildies if they roll zenith straight to bottom of prio list
toxic pewter
The scallie will be taking ur loot
minor helm
Actually huge if it applies to charge tbh
Leap
sage yacht
lesgooo shitton of traders then
sweet summit
king attitude
toxic pewter
Evoker happened
blazing condor
dragen 
chilly brook
The healing spec looks fun
toxic pewter
Can’t wait to play a dragon
chilly brook
Can’t wait to play a dragon
You can play now
toxic pewter
Auto correct
waxen orbit
toxic pewter
chilly brook
Bruh yes you do
dawn canyon
toxic pewter
Pink class leave this web sight
shut summit
Evoker actually dope ngl
Is fun from the little I've played so far, need some dungeons
waxen orbit
toxic pewter
Make all tanks OP
We are getting condemn
strong forum
waxen orbit
strong forum
ik
chilly brook
strong forum
its giga good
toxic pewter
Still think bolster and last stand should just merge into a single ability
strong forum
we can also play seismic
without needing to sac reprisal/defensive for it (probably)
chilly brook
Imagine
Last stand being added back to AM
And bolster bringing it down to 1m CD
strong forum
maiden oxide
Is there a haste soft cap?
sweet summit
seismic is a confirmed spell on the alpha client
there is a "soft cap" at 40% unbuffed where the tax is getting to big to continue stacking haste
strong forum
That’s just speculated right?
no, seismic is back
on the warrior tree
its not even prot specific afaik
strong forum
it doesnt affect TC, so fuck UF
waxen orbit
Someone link warrior tree
strong forum
waxen orbit
I can’t find it
sweet summit
there is none
grave crane
it really should affect TC instead of ww
strong forum
its on the datamine blog
toxic pewter
Wat u guys think
sweet summit
i think that's alright
waxen orbit
Oh so no warrior tree it’s just the leaks aight
toxic pewter
Ya
waxen orbit
Wat u guys think
Potential for RWF but kinda idk otherwise
sweet summit
so a lot of this depends on where you find them in the tree
strong forum
i bet wall competes with unbreakable
toxic pewter
Aoe taunt will be 2 min cd which seems interesting
sweet summit
hope it does tbh
waxen orbit
i bet wall competes with unbreakable
Easy ass choice then
grave crane
i mean if wall and unbreakable dont compete its a raid cd every time you use it which will just passively reduce thier damage intake
toxic pewter
I’m going wall build for sure
waxen orbit
Not raid wide
sweet summit
real
waxen orbit
Real
toxic pewter
Go bubble hearth
We over here talking about serious business
No need for pink input
waxen orbit
Here we go again
toxic pewter
lady Gaga begin bubble hearths
Apb shatters that shit destroy pink class execute plant flag
toxic pewter
sage yacht
we need battle shout
minor helm
we need battle shout
I’ll come eu be ur shout
wild hemlock
Aoe taunt will be 2 min cd which seems interesting
is it 4 now?
toxic pewter
Ya currently 4
waxen orbit
400
toxic pewter
Feel like we getting some solid quality of life improvements
dawn canyon
that's actually so good
pvpers in shambles
chilly brook
wrong pic
toxic pewter
Honestly they keep saying it makes no sense with lore and shit but they really missed the mark here to be honest
waxen orbit
Cant wait to get tossed off cliffs at the end of a fight 
chilly brook
This class is lookin poggies man
waxen orbit
Gotta sell the expac somehow
chilly brook
including adding a fix to MW
miss me with that
I got better places to spend my talent points
sand pebble
i been watching evoker and it looks actually fun - cast while moving, dk runes, dh movement
echo egret
I am pretty pissed they are keeping Divine Toll for prot paladins, it’s such an overpowered perk in M+
chilly brook
I am pretty pissed they are keeping Divine Toll for prot paladins, it’s such an ...
you can't introduce something that pivotal and remove it
chrome falcon
divine toll is made overpowered by two insane pieces of borrowed power
echo egret
Their base avenger’s shield was more than enough to have an upper hand regarding interrupts
errant oriole
is it me or they didnt add too much to prot wars? lol
hazy edge
DF divine toll is very different from the current one
Avenger’s Shield doesn’t generate holy power for ppal anymore
dawn canyon
hazy edge
Instead it gives either cdr on abilities or %dr on targets hit
Nope
First Avenger doesn’t exist anymore
dawn canyon
potent anvil
I imagine prot pala tree is still a work in progress
So still stuff remain to be seen
hazy edge
Then moment of glory got reworked to pseudo take over the other half
Yeah ppal tree is still being worked on
These are just what they have somewhat finished
Still missing over half the tree
dawn canyon
i just hope we see the proper ones soontm
echo egret
Remove Avenger's Shield interrupt and it's a non-issue
dawn canyon
new moment of glory is pog
chilly brook
Bruh they’d need to giga buff that talent for it to be worth it
mortal brook
first avenger would have to be there, since mog says 'additional'
between sera, dt, mog, rp, setting up tankadin to be a 45/90ish tempo, looks like.
bfa-ish
chrome falcon
they just slammed every avengers shield effect ever into the ppala tree i like it
they're losing ringing clarity and the legendary but divine toll is gonna be just as strong to press
toll with mog up is gonna give you an insane absorb
i dunno the new mog seems pretty pogged up to me
yeah i mean i'm certain ppala is gonna get some sweet utility too
people want ppala artifact ability back and i get that
but i feel like divine toll feels even better to press
lusty grotto
@modern brook @strong forum where is Late and Ghash? is wow good yet? is reflective plating back?
chrome falcon
no reflective plating yet but we don't have our full tree
so we're currently huffing copium that it'll be there
join us
lusty grotto
not gonna happen cause i bet they wont even think about reflective plating 😦
hmmm i dunno if i should resub soon
my homies gone
Late and Ghash riparooni
chrome falcon
late is still around
strong forum
<@204081428869283843> <@192743144276623360> where is Late and Ghash? is wow goo...
ghash is kill
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
ghash is kill
nuuu
strong forum
Late is afk until DF
modern brook
<@204081428869283843> <@192743144276623360> where is Late and Ghash? is wow goo...
Late's blue
no
lusty grotto
i might resub soon but dunno, its been my longest break from wow
modern brook
no
lusty grotto
sir
modern brook
High key Wow is a lot of fun if youj have a group you're willing/able/want to progress with
even SL
I dont have that rn so :/
modern brook
I'm a cutting edge raider and so i can lord that over people for at least another expansion
strong forum
we're close to it
strong forum
all it requires is a touch of 1 or 2 nobs
lusty grotto
i see i see
strong forum
and its just hard to play hard to master rn
like even my performance varies from key to key
lusty grotto
chef nimchip will make a comeback
and stewart
the fish
hard to play hard to master is enough incentive
remember BFA s1? lul
chrome falcon
i'm so upset they rebuffed unstoppable force
oblique garnet
Late is afk until DF
chrome falcon
god please no
lusty grotto
are naeno, riki and kaege still around?
lusty grotto
<:peepostudy:617259554530656262>
hullo sir
oblique garnet
Naeno is around but never speaks
lusty grotto
riki is gone i see 😦
lusty grotto
Naeno is around but never speaks
typical
oblique garnet
Technically i could come back to wow rn but cba paying money to blizzard without actual proof of good expansion
lusty grotto
still laughing at the scolding due to OT
yeah i kind of agree
i had like a list of things i needed to see done before i could think about a resub
borrowed power gone and cross faction were 2 of them, and i suppose those are either done or coming up
oblique garnet
I had enough gold to barely finish this tier now im almost at 0 so idk
lusty grotto
i quit 2 months before the streamers did so s1 for me
oblique garnet
Idm borrowed power but man the game content outside of raids has to be good
lusty grotto
yeah i agree
also of course full account wide shit, but eh
i feel that one has been said too many times
oblique garnet
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Done.
lusty grotto
chrome falcon
lusty grotto
the one thing i havent seen, because i suppose people don't really think the idea is okay is a comeback to 10man raiding
like even mythic raiding
would be so much simpler to recruit for etc
oblique garnet
Dont think 10 mans will make a comeback in wow anytime soon
lusty grotto
yeah
i think they are dead set on sizes, which is weird because when you think about it
WoW reduced player raids from 80+ people in EQ
to 40
then to less than that
and then just stuck it out
i think the typical raid designer and mythic raider are just used to the set number
would be nice to have a shakeup, but probably too much to ask
oblique garnet
Giving 10 mans as an option would kill guilds
Many of the more casual ones i mean
lusty grotto
nah not as an option
simple crystal
Hey, I know it's not on the subject, but I wanted to ask a question, is there a crit/maest cap?
or I can use everything I have of hast/vers
lusty grotto
oh no don't worry about it, i'm just rambling
oblique garnet
Hey, I know it's not on the subject, but I wanted to ask a question, is there a ...
There is diminishing return on stats but we just go for highest ilvl gear generally
There really isnt a bad stat for us
strong forum
You don't want haste/vers exclusively either, you want a healthy mix
errant oriole
so what do you guys think of the speculations?
strong forum
No point speculating
errant oriole
yeah that sorry lol
errant oriole
I hope to god prot is not going to get screwed again -_-
oblique garnet
I wonder if the talent that converts 10% of armor into strength is on top of vanguard
simple crystal
I asked these days about the Trinket codex, I was told here that it is bad, for prot! more me looking at Raider IO the top war use it and the scale!
chrome falcon
They are wrong!
undone verge
Codex is only really good in very high end situational content
lofty widget
nah not even
simple crystal
currently I'm using scale and crystal, I'm running after the gambit
lofty widget
only rygelong these days? or did they nerf him too much
strong forum
Not even ryg
undone verge
true with the nerfs ig
strong forum
It was never good for us
strong forum
Forgot what
mortal brook
I asked these days about the Trinket codex, I was told here that it is bad, for ...
yeah that's called margin for error
woeful cypress
can i come back to prot warrior yet, do the data mine look fun
strong forum
Yes, and currently pwar is giga fun
oblique garnet
He is writing dogshit in all dragonflight channels
Who
slim zinc
Yes, and currently pwar is giga fun
Pepecopter confirms
autumn pendant
oblique garnet
Ag
autumn pendant
woeful cypress
Yes, and currently pwar is giga fun
is the tier fun? im a slave and only play meta tanks, but im quitting my guild and going to a shit one so i can just go back to prot war
oblique garnet
Hes not wrong
autumn pendant
strong forum
Pwar is now even faster
oblique garnet
is the tier fun? im a slave and only play meta tanks, but im quitting my guild a...
Why would you not just tank on warrior in your current one?
woeful cypress
my guild was making me play meta tanks before
modern brook
his guild is stinky and thinks their prog is stopped because he isnt bdk or whatever
modern brook
and not cause he has 43 dps that are consistently dead on the firsat mechanic
woeful cypress
well 2 months ago it wasnt lol
modern brook
(note this is a guess)
strong forum
Nothing changed since then
lusty grotto
oh man Vil
woeful cypress
sure things ahve changed
oblique garnet
No not really
lofty widget
nothing changed
strong forum
Nothing relevant in terms of pwar
cinder storm
pretty much the same
oblique garnet
Raid changed class is the same
lofty widget
except execute buff maybe
woeful cypress
ony top of getting more item levels there have been litteral class changes to other tanks
fathom stag
I'm hoping my RL let's me swap to pwar for fated raiding. Not sure how necessary BDK is going to be.
cinder storm
not here
oblique garnet
Warrior was best tank for jailer 2 months ago too
It did by far the most damage while living easiest
lofty widget
if anything pwar got nerfed in raid cause they reduced hp of bosses, which means less execute time
cinder storm
cant fix what is not broken
strong forum
Brew didn't get touched
Vdh didn't get negatively impacted
Bear got rofl stomped like 3 months ago
Bdk got barely nudged too
Ye pwar got actually nerfed on jailer
Cuz execute is much shorter now
woeful cypress
guys youre trying to convince me to play my favorite class i dont get it
im litteraly quitting my guild to go play warrior forever lol
strong forum
We're just stating what has been true all tier
If anything we're flaming your guild
cinder storm
only metaslaves are slaves to other peoples words
strong forum
woeful cypress
meh, I think that dk has done more dmg most of the tier
chrome falcon
if your guild tells you what to play they're very cringe
strong forum
Bdk is still more dmg yes
chrome falcon
source i run a guild and would feel very cringe if i told someone what to play
cinder storm
Easier to play too with 4p
oblique garnet
Huh
lofty widget
if your guild feels the need to micro manage what you play like that, theyre probably not in a position where it matters
oblique garnet
Warrior isnt hard
strong forum
Warrior is 30x harder than other tanks
chrome falcon
it's harder than everything else
well it's actually like
the spec is totally fucking brainless
but you have to play fast
woeful cypress
wait where does the difficulty in prot warrior come from
errant oriole
shoot I got told i would have to read a 10 page essay on how to properly prot war >_>
woeful cypress
reprisal is not hard
chrome falcon
can you keep up 85 cpm consistently
oblique garnet
can you keep up 85 cpm consistently
Yes
cinder storm
"reprisal is not hard" famous last words
chrome falcon
yes i know you can late so can i
autumn pendant
so which one is it
chrome falcon
but a lot of people can't
strong forum
If you're good at warrior, it's not that hard
lusty grotto
i trust both
oblique garnet
so which one is it
This is a case of theory versus the execution
strong forum
If you're not good at warrior, it's very hard
oblique garnet
Nome what affixes is it this week
lusty grotto
hol up
strong forum
Raging explo
strong forum
It is
woeful cypress
us talking abt reprisal forever ago and you said was ez!
waxen orbit
It is hard if you don’t know prot lol
lusty grotto
sir 😦
ive been around for how long
have i been forgotten
has chef nimchip been forgotten
woeful cypress
ya i dont do outburst, but even with banner it was w/e
strong forum
In raid its still easy
In higher m+ keys it can pose a challenge
You're not allowed to be lazy
woeful cypress
ya im not a key do'er so no opinion
lusty grotto
ez
waxen orbit
You can’t just BDK autoparry not top dam deathstrike half cracked out
woeful cypress
whats with all the new prot warrior names on top of WCL
did the old ones all quit
lofty widget
probably
strong forum
Rerolled bdk
oblique garnet
has chef nimchip been forgotten
Yes
lusty grotto
or old people came back
woeful cypress
i recognize like 4 guys on the top 10 lol
chrome falcon
their fingers probably fell off
strong forum
No real pusher is playing pwar rn
woeful cypress
my return will be glorious
strong forum
Just a bunch of bad players
woeful cypress
APM is gone
oblique garnet
late y u do dis
Im just honest always
waxen orbit
Quit, rerolled, or got their fingers amputated
lusty grotto
Im just honest always
i still have your NA acct on my friend list
oblique garnet
i still have your NA acct on my friend list
Its both now i can see you gaming sometimes
autumn pendant
If you're not good at warrior, it's very hard
here , my friend made list of difficulty
lusty grotto
yet
errant oriole
lol
autumn pendant
oh shush gaga
woeful cypress
i think fury warrior is most out of place
waxen orbit
hazy edge
I think Andy had the best tank in current pwar
autumn pendant
Fight me
strong forum
But some are out of place
strong forum
Fdk ret pal and fury are on the correct spot
lusty grotto
oblique garnet
How much is wow token in eu atm
strong forum
Like 330k?
autumn pendant
imma check give me sec
oblique garnet
lusty grotto
<:danderson:904606068108304424>
woeful cypress
Bolster cdr from 1m -> 10 sec / what do this mean? bolster only gives 10s off ls now?
lusty grotto
oh no
woeful cypress
wall being a talent is kinda cool i guess
lusty grotto
hmm...
lusty grotto
my bootyclap build is ruined
mortal brook
I think Andy had the best tank in current pwar
leaks D:
strong forum
Actual garbage
lusty grotto
nome why are you so mean to chef nimchip
strong forum
Bfa pwar was in hindsight actually dumbfuck easy
oblique garnet
lusty grotto
yeah it was
strong forum
The fun part is just a numbers thing
Which is why people enjoy brew rn
Cuz it's just overtuned numbers from tier
dreamy wedge
And Brew is literally just "hit the best button in your kit on cooldown, get thicc"
woeful cypress
i cannot hate, i am also a bremaster enjoyer
oblique garnet
Ok thats a bit rude now
lusty grotto
get mike ybarra or whatever the fuck hes called on the phone
dreamy wedge
Me thinks depending on where it is, the party-wide shield wall might be problematic. Would suck if it's in a bad spot but we're "forced" to take it
lusty grotto
didnt he play war or something
lusty grotto
ok this was fun. ill be back in a few months to check on my homies late, bullfango, nome, matt, ghash, riki, sense and so forth
someone rez ghash and riki please
lady gaga
shut summit
lusty grotto
old flame
If anyone wants to bug me to stream some alpha content for them, I'll be downloading after raid tonight
chilly brook
Me thinks depending on where it is, the party-wide shield wall might be problema...
I’m not taking it if it’s in a bad spot
autumn pendant
No
chilly brook
There’s not been a reason yet as to why you’d be “forced” to take it
Since it already exists in SL
And there is 0 use case
dreamy wedge
A fair point, but in SL it has a very heavy opportunity cost to the warrior. I don't think it'll be a problem but I really hope it's not one
chilly brook
If it’s in a bad spot in a talent tree it would also have a heavy opportunity cost
fickle ingot
Hello, I am trying to prog mythical level 20 keystones rn, and wanted to see how crucial the codex trinket is to my success.
shut summit
it isnt
fickle ingot
I see, ty.
grave crane
Is bad for us
sick sentinel
whoever said to make sun king blessing fire mage, i did it, i'm trying to do LFR get 4 set
sick sentinel
well, i was arcane for a while, i have the 262 leggos for that, just not 291's, or only 2 of them rather
patent osprey
chilly brook
Hello, I am trying to prog mythical level 20 keystones rn, and wanted to see how...
Codex is dogwater
Literally a trap trinket
urban portal
Hello, I am trying to prog mythical level 20 keystones rn, and wanted to see how...
Codex is a detriment to your success
slender scaffold
I'm spoiled from blood/bear/protP being able to pretty much not care if my healer is asleep. I know protW is more of a mitigate/avoid tank, but is there any combination of traits/trinkets/covenant/conduit/etc that will move my warrior at least closer to that feeling?
urban portal
No
cobalt seal
I'm spoiled from blood/bear/protP being able to pretty much not care if my heale...
Yes
Pressing your buttons
Will help that felling
mighty valley
people have got to stop saying "the shield wall talent is bad because the legendary is bad"
to use the SL legendary you have to give up a legendary
to use the talent you have to give up one talent point, and we have no idea how hard or easy that is right now
plus you might be able to easily pair it with something like the wall
which is impossible now
deep steppe
Seems like Scale2.0
drifting juniper
did u guys talk about titanic throw already
feels good to have aoe ranged aggro
mighty valley
yeah, nice qol depending on where it is
mighty valley
yeah i'd never go out of my way to grab it
chrome falcon
i thought it did that to the main target
drifting juniper
38% AP is not low for aggro
mighty valley
but if it's easy to pick up sure, it'll make pulling nice
chrome falcon
and then fuck all to everything else
drifting juniper
its like paladins sending avenger shield for aggro
chrome falcon
if it's that much to everything then that's cool
also looks like they're 5xing the damage on shockwave
which is nice
mighty valley
it just says it does heroic throw damage to everything in the radius
urban portal
itll probably be around 1.5 revenges
i think
its on a cd tho
but regular throw is on a cd for dps warriors
mighty valley
they'd better balance it so there's no incentive to use it on CD
urban portal
its pvp talent now
its still a pvp talent
thats why it says morale killer on the top
the formatting is just wrong
urban portal
i would take 4 prot warriors per raid