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That’s very impressive
pls dont
Who pulls mobs into echelon
how does that happen
Yah kill before starting echelon in my opinion
ah
It happens to the best of us. Who here hasn’t ass pulled before.
Then die
and maybe
hit the dummy so you don't get 25% uptime banners
Yah prob best to kill then start echelon
might as well play kyrian at that point
It’s not like you can accidentally pull echelon
Unless someone mind controlled your mouse
Well you live and you learn
its a year into expac
That’s solid wisdom earned. Can’t get that on a training dummy.
exactly lol. to far in the season for some of the mistakes listed lol
but i went acros the bottom arrow, and this puled more crap
so wo died early, we didn't have wo 100% of time we needed it, he got pulled
I’ve never seen that pack pulled in my life
hey im having a hard time keeping agro with more mobs any tips?
It happens yogi. Good news is you finished the dungeon. That’s what really matters
He probably didn’t
Revenge more
It’s an 18 sanguine echelon
have dps wait a bit
theres literally a 2 ad wo at top fo screen
revenge more
if you're really desperate you can avatar+TC the pull
Use ravager too
alright thanks
Are you using ravager
no
ravager on the mobs and then charge in
Oh yeah def throw ravager asap
you're not using ravager??
as it takes a sec to kick in
yeah i would definitely recommend using the spell that does big aoe burst
if you're struggling with aoe threat
I’m proud you are doing 18s yogi. Soon you will be doing 20s. That’s bad ass
pretty sure he said key ended early
smae
Let me know if you start
We can get in a discord call even
if u want good pwar gameplay
Do some training
nome streams every now and then
Ya he does 5 tank runs
highly recommended, mf got a good music taste
Pretty fun
i want to start streaming my raids in df
guess with who he does those
just need non-UK internet
you watch him floorpov on 5 tanks?
Lol
terrible upload and literally took me 56 straight hours to download lost ark when it came out
Holy crap
its decent content 
can you pay more and get better speeds
also their paladin seems good at the game
gonna tell mandl that
I have like 5mbps upload. Not very good
Get ready for the rise of the second pwar though
Hell yea
Pepecopter is rising
more dam more good
good name
Meyra is a traitor
PEPECOPTER RISING
not one of those X-clap guys
nerfclap andyclap lepanclap etc
hey can anyone help me get to 50 ill pay 67k gold im lvl 28 rn
just play the game man
do dungeons and quests
What server u on
Minimum wage or what
area 52
down baaaaad
lol
I am poor
imagine people from NA being in Area 52
I could use the gold for df..
what a surprise
Go work 30 minutes at McDonald’s
its sooo unfun to do
I can spam dungeons with you
bet
If you pay me half gold at start
alright ill dm when im ready
it's a scam
Too lazy at the moment
dont do it
Ok
wdym
you gonna lose your gold
never pay before the job is done
man just play the game
Half at start is normal
are you sure you're watching the right vods
probably not

i only recall a +3 weekly nw


Cro you can call me a troll but please do not call me a scammer without proof
That is rude
okay scammer

true, to scam you'd have to convince somebody first
Lmao
They come back for s4
no
Or df
hey friendos. I am just choosing my covenant for the first time and I've heard Kyrian >>>> for Prot, but I really like the idea of the banner movement and stuff with Necrolord. Is going Necro going to be a big nerf over Kyrian?
Necro.
oh
well isn't that swell
I dunno, heard all the top warrs are running Kyrian or something
but who knows what I read
yknow whats even better
banner is cool, right?
now imagine you have it THE ENTIRE time

wait how do you have it the entire time lol
yeah that info is about 6 months out of date
necro is much, much better
legendary called glory
Unity legendary combined with tier set
oh that's fine
so happy i spent 150k on them week 1 
do you just upgrade the one you have
would it be smart for me to wait
No
and is there a date on S4?
That’s up to you if you have the gold available might as well do it now
I have a feeling they will have an upgrade system for season 4 legendaries
Or even just keep them at 291
But I have been wrong before
I couldn’t have put it better myself
I have like 3 mil lol but I don't exactly like wasting it if it's gonna be useless, but they'd probably piss everyone off if they did that right?
will do
Practice necrolord. It’s a lot of fun
log runs
which set is it? the most recent raid?
so I can just RF the shit set for now to get the bonus
learning necro is like learning piano
oh lord what is that? I literally just got back to the game haha sorry for all these questions. haven't played since previous xpac
its a way to make everything tier items
so you dont even have to raid for tier
well yeah, doing keys/raids is also good but target dummies are free real estate to practice muscle memory
the quest at the very top of your quest list.
do that
and whatever it changes to do those quests
picked a good time to come back at least
I was doing some research . (Prot warrior in vanilla -> cata and sprinkled in for rest of the expacs)
Is necro best m+ ? It was kyrian all expac but it was listed on icy veins
yes necro best for all
Necro dream lives
if I am at 32% haste should I still gem and enchant for haste?
yeah probably
wasn't sure about diminishing returns or what not
they kick in mildly at 30%, get worse at 40%
oh
you don't actually lose stat, you just don't gain as much per point
how on earth would you lose stats from gaining stats
O_O
thats what im saying
I think he’s trying to explain how diminishing returns works
yeah i just... don't know who could be confused
no worries,
Well if you never dove into your stats .. DR was never a concern
The scaling decrease in haste% after a break point has not always been the case .. plus DR hasn’t been very relevant since mists
DR is totally relevant for stuns in mythic + type thing
after 3, no effect, stun spell is is useless if it deals no damage or effect
Oh that’s a different DR than haste breakpoints
But okay fair
..feels like your being argumentative for no reason
and a longer stun is preferable to do first it possible in terms of DR, so like, storm bolt first, then shockwave, dunno where cow stomp fits in, but im saying you get a 4second stun off storm bolt, then u do next stun and it states 3 seconds but its half'd duration, so thats 1.5 seconds, and then cow stomp/shockwave 2 seconds is only 1 second
You are correct .. however you started with stat break point dr and then swapped to stun / interupt DR .. apples and oranges
Hail the queen

drw
dragon rawr
dragon roar auto include for df
this brings up questiin also, can huunters tame dragon
Is codex a meme trinket?
Maybe
Also maybe not bad for vdh
Wouldn’t surprise me is bad for bdk
Cuz they have so much mitigation
general thing is it's bad for every tank. the only exception is vdh once you get to higher fort keys, and bdk once you get to giga insanely high keys.
i'm using an alchemist stone though
its 262 but i put on wrong progenitor essentia augment thing
I would switch that out for a ring or something and just use codex until get better trinket like soleah or phial personally
What’s ur other trinket
Ya try to get higher ilvl scale
And just use codex. Get jewel crafting ring with high Haste
That’s what I would do until able to replace codex
My friend who was a dk who was an alchemist go to trinket for bfa was such stone cuz he could get more healing from his potions which he made
Sound logic for a bdk main imo
Nope not really
In regards to current m+ circuit .. how viable is warrior vs how represented is it
Probably the biggest gap ever between community perception/representation and viability
perfectly capable, community thinks it's shit
In the wise words of Andybrew, prot war is insanely underrepresented. you could get 4k io as prot no questions asked. Just no one is playing it.
biggest issue with prot warrior right now is it requires more than 2 brain cells to play
so the average wow player is going to give it a wide berth
I’ve been tanking since vanilla .. I put my shield on the shelf after cata to play my warlock but I did tank through the expacs didn’t raid tho .. so I’m willing to dust off the shield
honestly if you pug the hardest part of prot warrior is getting into keys
but once you're in prot is literally the immovable object and unstoppable force rolled into one, have surprised quite a few pugs over the last couple of weeks carrying them
To quote one healer I pugged with: "I thought Prot war was bad"
I dont have trouble getting into 15s
A braindead fish could tank 15s though
BREAK OUT THE SHIELD BABY
I never said tanking 15s was hard
People still buy 15 carrys
So you can see if you push keys you are probably the 1% er


yeah, they're called blood dks 
I have had some atrocious DKs when I've been playing my Shaman and Priest
Being FOTM means a lot of the shitlers play DK
yeah, but they can still usually manage 15s
You could probably run a 15 successfully without a tank at this point in the season
Guys, in M+ (Necro 4pc) AOE priority: ShieldSlam > Revenge/execute > TC?
ye but add like 10 more > before TC
Meta spec
Means alot of shitters are gonna play it cuz easy groups
Locks and hunters who dont do shit but you invite them cuz you expect them to pump
meta chasing 
Too true 
the worst part is people that meta chase are still incapable of playing the classes that are overtuned to their actual potential
Monk tanking is pretty fun too damage breakdown is 
so it's just a mild gain at best
🍺
Dont know how many times im looking at my buff bar up top seeing 0/5 priest buff
arms is also arguably mad fun
Hmm probably
prot is a blast tho, so it's hard to play 1 character with 2 specs
I dont like it
Watching mdi watching them pull shit on bosses doing 100k dps makes me wanna do it
now i am alting afflic lock
You dont get whacked if you kill them before they do anything

Run a monk aoe stuns kill them in the stuns
i meant patch wise
O yeah big whack
thats one of the ones i haven't tried with 4pc / lego setup yet
if they ever untrash spriests clunk tier aoe i will reconsider playing it
until then my spriest is coffin mode 🛌
A friend of mine is a spriest main they do alot of dmg just small trash mobs kinda suck
He hates when i pull huge
the dmg is good
Yeah they very strong
but the aoe rotation squatting on a talent is so gross feeling
because it comes via a channel
that if you don't have basically perfect input and a certain haste breakpoint, you can only get 2/3 possible casts
i will give them top marks for the visuals though, the little shadow duders are 
apparitions*
Don't see too many spriests tho
Doesnt mean there weak just not fun to play m+ like aff lock
Multidotters

spriest def requires more class depth knowledge, the rotation gets wild
its visually rewarding though 
Prot war requires that spammy playstyle with banner
yea prot war is surprisingly difficult to maintain banner effectively
Reprisal just kinda a pain to use
took me like a solid week of smashing low-mid keys to practice
If we had intercept like in bfa
Would be crack
Setup a focus marco on the survival hunter and spam it

I should do that but i get into the fury warrior playstyle
Just smash face and end up with no rage for shield block and rocked

been there 
monk stagger system is actually dummy op
Its honestly the easiest feeling tank
i haven't done prot pala, only did bdk in 9.0
Ive only done pwarr and monk so i can't really speak well this xpac
Did boost a dk but was too lazy to set it up
Perfect time to do it since you can swap flux at 1500 to 1250 for alts
Bad deal but who cares
i could give surv another try, but it all depends on whats gonna happen with 9.2.5
i can't find any surv info on it 
Fair mm can pump comparable dmg
Just survival massive instant burst
Mm will probably pull ahead
With the addition of old raids being scaled up and legendary bow existing and being busted af
Could defo see a resurgence of mm hunters instead in shaded
Old sl raids
iirc the secondary scaling is very favorable for hunters in general
could mean big numbers for mm

Secondary scaling is a myth
You realize the gap between Windwalker and say shadow priest is like 3% ish
Nothing compares to borrowed power
That being said survival is getting a nerf come 9.2.7, though not sure if they are nerfing st or aoe
However they are getting jotungeirr back which will make their on pull burst crazy
i guess this realistically means mastery, for the most part
Yeah those are all myths
Doesn’t matter when survival has the insanely op jotungeirr
While ranged hunters are stuck with the bow
i'm more or less referring to the ilvl bump which means more overall secondary stats
that comes with 9.2.5
Yes
what is it, 311 or some poop?
That means 0 compared to any balance changes or borrowed power they may have access to
Just like how fury warrior scales well with stats
Dumpster tier right now
Dumpster tier in 9.0
Until blizzard gave them 29% aura buff+46% damage on melees
obv something like 2-5% of a secondary isn't going to be a game changer
Shadow priest had that happen twice to the opposite affect, scales well
Blizzard hits em with the nerf bat in 9.1
And again in 9.2
Turns out your spec don’t scale well if blizzard doesn’t like you
well yes of course
my only complaint is i don't have any solid news/word on the actual nerfs
also how does the world feel about phial vs sack?
Sadly some of the best damage ftinkets we have as prot
just sim them
Phial is better cuz mainstat
Sack averages out in St due to the proc doing more dmg
But the more targets there are, the better phial will become cuz of str

Got to 3k io on my alt bdk after a top 23 then timed a pf 24, DPS died twice on mist 25 first boss...honestly, nothing beats the fun that is pwar
Im gonna ”phial” for divorce
W
Are there any abilities worth macroing together? Like SS and SB? I’m getting overwhelmed by the amount of button there is to press
No
The one 2 u can macro and should are intervene and charge
Someone at a computer than can get to the macro please post
Don’t worry about it. I’m a filthy clicker so I use healbot as my party frames and have right click set to intervene
I’ve tried key binds and idk I just can’t
you'll have a bad time being a pwar as a clicker
I feel I’m doing alright so far. Only been playing prot warrior for 2 weeks now and got almost all 15s timed this week. Banner uptime is what I need to improve the most. It’s around 40~50% uptime
can you hold banner up 100% on a dummy?
I’ve had times where I’ve had it up when it’s coming off cd but that when my pugs really good and keeping up on interupts and I’m not scrambling around trying to get everything grouped up nice
thats neat
but do yourself a favour and try keybinds its gonna save you so much hassle in the long run
I tend to lose focus on building and spending rage when I’m running around kicking casters and shit
pwar prolly least good clicker tank
You know what is
A dead tank is a clicker tbh
Maybe a bear
Or dk
Ive probably tanked with a clicker
Been like why do i always have threat

just keybind like r or f
My f is interrupt and r is shield block
guys
i have a problem
my NF shapeshift silences me
i have to remove it by right click
anyone had similar problem at any time?
all i can do is flame keybinds sorry
Are you inside the covenant Hall of the nightfae?
No and it doesnt matter
whenever i try to use any spell it says cannot do that in shapeshift form
Kek
No clue what to do about it besides swap cov back and forth or logout
See if that fixes anything
done that
ticket
Maybe it has something to do with the auto unmount option in the interface section?
Nah it's because most dh abilities have the "not is shapeshift" aura tag. Samething happens if you try and Lichborne on a dk in soulshape. You'll need to create a cancel macro for it.
You definitely can
You’ll never go back to clicking after you figure it out
Clicking is dogshit
i honestly think its impressive that you do 15's with clicking
I mean we out geared 15s in like, February
Let the man click he's got all the cheater healer addons to make it work
my friend has a char arms and can do some 23++ while clicking
Ye but tanking is different tho
but just overpower and some skills
can ≠ good to do
its a choice, if they think its better, it is
also he plays like that since vanilla, so he must be a master on it.
That’s kinda where I’m at. I played all of BC, wrath, and cata clicking. Just came back a month or 2 before SoD dropped.
id relearn but its your choice
I’ve tried. And actually my plan was to have this warrior be my intro into keybinds but mannnnnnn I picked the wrong spec lol
tanking clicking?
oh well, harsh ngl
Not really. Played PoE for a bit before coming back to wow. Wouldn’t really consider the flask piano as keybinds
i dont know how poe works so thats prolly not of help
but i usually recommend grabbing 1-5ish and then adding other comfortable clicks to your binds
That’s what people in my guild have said but I can’t imagine using WASD for movement plus 1-5 keybinds
what do u use for movement?
My fingers would be a pretzel
q and e are good since you arent spamming a/d all the time so your fingers and go up and click those
i use 12345qerfyxcvgtzh and mouse side buttons 
scrollwheel works but i dont use that
A and E are strafe
Howdy gang
in the end it is personal preference
Q*
How goes it this fine day
howdy partner
i strafe with a and d
same %
🤠
^ *
Who here clicks. We got any clickers in the house
i have an unadmittable amount of keybinds on shift + <key>, including function keys 
shamefully raises hand

in my defense ive been clicking since vanilla and im old 😛
Clickers LEAVE THIS WEBSIGHT
Been clicking since BC. Also old
im not old but i surely feel my back already
how do you click when warrior has like 8 pages of abilities 

so u click and then select area?
Ya
What worries me the most is I can’t type without looking at my keyboard so if my hand moves a little bit I’ll have to look at my keyboard to get my hand back in position
yep
its a matter of practice imo
most keyboards have a physical trait on the home row key(s) that help you locate resting positions
you don't have to key bind if you don't wanna, but i think most ppl would recommend it
Yes
usually a little nub 
Click em all
Nothing bound
apb is confused
may i see where on your screen your actiobars are
Major trolls occurring at the moment
no combi of wasd 1-5 and click the rest

some people play like that
i know a guild thats 11/11 hc with mostly 50+ ppl, and all clickers too
Only “bind” I may have is I right click a melee frame on healbot to intervene
it's whatever if u enjoy the game like that ig, just know that you're actively hindering your potential
hc isnt a good indicator since u can omega outgear it
When I say someone is a clicker, it means majority of their abilities are bound. Have like 1-4 abilities that they found difficult to bind as clickable. That is what is occurring. No one actually clicks all abilities.
Plenty of people click
I main enhance and have Aotc in SoD and Current raid plus push mythic
I have people in my CE guild who click most of their abilities
they did take 70+ pulls on a nerfed jailer to get him down @dawn canyon

main enha without binds
hah
dayum
Yup
bruh my fingers hurt looking at those
even then i use z
how long are your fingers
their sub money
xd
from uh farthest finger to pointer i can press shift J
Lmao
Ban all scammers
with 1 hand
bit of a stretch tho
Cromation just dm me- he told me he is a clicker
clickable WA!
f keys 
noawh ui
🤮
!!
naowh's one is classcolor unit frames so get rolled
i like dis
i made 
i half copied the one from Sense
i think my fury one is better but arms is higher equipped ilvl so i do that 
An old ss of mine
i really like that one haha
its clean fa
don't
it hurts
@wintry nymphfury 
There's like 3 typhoons and rejuvs hanging around
whats the brown bar under WA
target of target
arms one i made based on my dk one and havent updated in a while
didnt fit the fury footprint 
ah luxthos
i disliked his fury one so i made a copy of some other aura
which then devolved into what i have now

Ya that was when I had my ui in perhaps it’s most efficient stage
Made a lot of changes since then
it looks like what i imagine f2p with ads would look like
that is not your ui
@toxic pewterfrom when is "your" screenshot
my ui from now ... with wa, i never liked luxthos so made my own except for the ob and spell reflect
are you a clicker
but i know i click too much - just find it hard to change to binds
You can watch videos to help you with keybinds
you'll never like keybinds until you force yourself to learn how to play on them
once you do though 
at least u have 7 keybinds
is that charge/intervene on split macro?
yeh
Time for blade kit and gargoyle heart
its not like this on my other dh tho
Cromation - please do not make fun of my ui
but a scammer gotta scam
I am a simple man, I played druid for some time
ofc you did scammer

Do you not have ur racial macroed to SS or revenge?
It’s belf
no...
on gcd
i click it
Can’t macro it
Since when are racials on gcd?
Yea think orc and troll aren’t
I’ve been fucking up. As a troll enhance I have the racial macroed to storm strike. Though all racials were off gcd
Vulpera is
Troll is off gcd
Should line up racial with other cd’s probably
Enh shaman doesn’t have cds
Oh
Yup. Ain’t gotta line nothing up
wolfs on uh cdr'd cd 
Well fae transfusion and PI so I get that juicy haste inside my haste circle
pi 
Wolfs are up so often you just send it
ya ofc but still needs a click
Honestly I would say to try out a logitech g600 mouse for binds.
why?
I started on just a keyboard but going to a 12 button grid mouse really is nice for keeping binds clean and easy without twisting your hand
You don't need a mouse to play wow
alt, shift, and control modifiers are all super easy with any button on the mouse
(keybinds)
1-5 qerfzxc
you have plenty of buttons to bind stuff
My spouse stuggled with keyboard bindings but the mouse helped them figure it out.
Its another option to learn keybindings and I've been very happy with the logitech mouse.
Comfortable in the hand and has a good resolution for anything you want to do.

Real and true
I’m excited for the df ui update
I’ve got some serious sausage fingers tho
Hey ilvl is good
both are ilvl for me, 272 in both
ye the neck looks nice
crit vers
iirc a socket is like 12 ilvls or something
haste/crit+socket is nice
no your neck looks nice @hazy edge 😉
on a jewlery piece
are you back to playing prot warrior yet
or do you still have to maintain alts
I am 🙂
nice
full time Warrior now
Prison
so now im back DPSing on my warrior for raid
so I can key on my warrior xD
for next tier
is your guild doing 9.2.7 raids
yep

you know you are still blocked right
end of the day, i'm just some random guy trying to play a video game, nothing more or less, anything before and beyond you see past that is a fascade

Got 278 Sitchflesh to replace crafted ring, which trink should use? I know codex isn't great it's basically all I have atm lol
That avoidance codex gave me a half chub
Is 4% by itself ye
you spending valor on codex
is hilarious
considering you prob don't have much to spare
I didn't my guild is just bad and I got that really early
I literally have not gotten good trinkets all season
sounds like my luck
I would personally just use codex until can get a soleah’s or phial or something
Valor went to upgrading the 10,000 accessories and converted tier I got until I finally got 278s from vault for those slots
I know So'leah's is good, but using it in groups of people where other people have it is such cancer
sounds like you should use RDM instead of codex
wait
you have soleah and RDM
and are using those 2?
I don't have a So'leah's no, my friends do
And they bitch about how sharing it is aids

It’s not that bad
If I had a So'leah's this conversation wouldn't be happening lol
Oh didn’t realize he had an rdm
reading is hard we know
I was using RDM and Codex, now I was thinking of replacing the Codex with the alch stone
Mkay, stone and RDM it is then lol. Next season this will be easy, just raid and get Aegis+RDM and never think about it for the rest of the xpac
Asuming they don't nerf the shit out of them
In good groups where you can make sure it doesn't drop prolly better ye. I don't have that luxury; in a family good with a buncha boomers
But been playing with them for like 15 years so like, not going anywhere
what
rdm still nearly stacks up with most trinkets and its dated a patch now, id imagine it will be nuts again
aegis is broken
Our healer is slow, in more ways than one, if I go too fast he can get frazzled
and so is OWS
you dont need a healer
yeah thats the holy trinity right there
I don't, the dps do.
sounds like a they problem
I mean, it is, but there's not much I can do about it. Like I said, I've been playing with them since I was a kid I'm not gonna be like "y'all bad bye lol"
so easily the trash that i have the most trouble with is the trash in streets in the first boss room. is there a rime or reason why they do much damage to me?
where did we say that
just play your game and OWS is broken
you dont need a healer to survive
neither should dps die
in 5-10s
so I kinda missing the problem of playing OWS
We've pushed up to 15s now, and most assuredly they do in fact die...unfortunately.
Like a lot. RIP the poor Enh shaman esp.
If you play to your strengths you can carry a 15 hard
Frontals are annoying 

Nothing worse than a loser who leaves his team behind
you
A true leader realizes he is his team
can't spell team without prot
If your team is dying
That is on you
The buck stops at the tank
We are the leaders of the team
No
Can blame healer and dps until your dying breath
But eventually you must realize
Your lack of success is on you
We are the leaders
We carry the responsibility
can you stop trolling?
Yes exactly. Failing is direct result of actually not leading your team effectively.
You are beginning to learn.
I’m not trolling, I firmly believe all I have typed.
ofc you do
I believe it, because it is true.
We just have different philosophies
doesn't make yours less wrong
You prefer to go it alone, leave “losers” behind
I prefer to embrace responsibility and lead my team to victory
Have you consider checking a doctor to fix you?
schizophrenia is kinda of a serious thing
Which is strange why you joke about it so much 🤔
sim and check if it is









