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toxic pewter
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We many not agree but I defend all my prot warrior brothers

urban portal
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That’s very impressive

cobalt seal
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pls dont

urban portal
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Who pulls mobs into echelon

sick sentinel
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wo ending too early

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and ass pull

dawn canyon
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how does that happen

toxic pewter
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Yah kill before starting echelon in my opinion

cobalt seal
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lol

dawn canyon
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ah

toxic pewter
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It happens to the best of us. Who here hasn’t ass pulled before.

dawn canyon
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git gud or get got

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it happens

urban portal
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Then die

cobalt seal
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and maybe

urban portal
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Why would you pull

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With the mob alive

cobalt seal
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hit the dummy so you don't get 25% uptime banners

toxic pewter
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Yah prob best to kill then start echelon

cobalt seal
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might as well play kyrian at that point

urban portal
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It’s not like you can accidentally pull echelon

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Unless someone mind controlled your mouse

toxic pewter
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Well you live and you learn

dawn canyon
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its a year into expac

sick sentinel
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i wanted to go along the top arrow

toxic pewter
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That’s solid wisdom earned. Can’t get that on a training dummy.

dawn canyon
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someone will have messed up invis

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in a sang week there before

scenic mural
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exactly lol. to far in the season for some of the mistakes listed lol

sick sentinel
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but i went acros the bottom arrow, and this puled more crap

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so wo died early, we didn't have wo 100% of time we needed it, he got pulled

cobalt seal
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(you spend so much time in MDT)

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and that's the skip you do?

scenic mural
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yeah what ami seeing right now

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terrible plan to begin with

urban portal
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I’ve never seen that pack pulled in my life

raw wagon
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hey im having a hard time keeping agro with more mobs any tips?

toxic pewter
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It happens yogi. Good news is you finished the dungeon. That’s what really matters

urban portal
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He probably didn’t

toxic pewter
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Revenge more

urban portal
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It’s an 18 sanguine echelon

dawn canyon
scenic mural
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theres literally a 2 ad wo at top fo screen

chrome falcon
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if you're really desperate you can avatar+TC the pull

toxic pewter
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Use ravager too

raw wagon
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alright thanks

dawn canyon
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you will not out aggro a fully bursting fury the second you pull

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so have em wait

toxic pewter
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Are you using ravager

raw wagon
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no

dawn canyon
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ravager on the mobs and then charge in

toxic pewter
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Oh yeah def throw ravager asap

chrome falcon
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you're not using ravager??

dawn canyon
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as it takes a sec to kick in

chrome falcon
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yeah i would definitely recommend using the spell that does big aoe burst

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if you're struggling with aoe threat

toxic pewter
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I’m proud you are doing 18s yogi. Soon you will be doing 20s. That’s bad ass

scenic mural
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pretty sure he said key ended early

toxic pewter
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Well

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Can’t win ‘em all

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Yogi you should start streaming. I’d watch that

raw wagon
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smae

toxic pewter
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Let me know if you start

raw wagon
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same*

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type ur twitch in if u do

dawn canyon
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for content yes

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gna be uh

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interesting

toxic pewter
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We can get in a discord call even

dawn canyon
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if u want good pwar gameplay

toxic pewter
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Do some training

dawn canyon
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nome streams every now and then

toxic pewter
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Ya he does 5 tank runs

dawn canyon
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highly recommended, mf got a good music taste

toxic pewter
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Pretty fun

chrome falcon
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i want to start streaming my raids in df

dawn canyon
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guess with who he does those

chrome falcon
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just need non-UK internet

toxic pewter
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Wat wrong with uk internet

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Bad upload

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Or somethin

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I genuinely don’t know

dawn canyon
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colour

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thats wrong with it

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
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Lol

chrome falcon
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terrible upload and literally took me 56 straight hours to download lost ark when it came out

toxic pewter
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Holy crap

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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can you pay more and get better speeds

dawn canyon
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also their paladin seems good at the game

cobalt seal
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gonna tell mandl that

toxic pewter
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I have like 5mbps upload. Not very good

slim zinc
toxic pewter
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Hell yea

slim zinc
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Pepecopter is rising

dawn canyon
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more dam more good

dawn canyon
cobalt seal
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Meyra is a traitor

toxic pewter
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PEPECOPTER RISING

slim zinc
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Nom chose it

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Nom chose well

dawn canyon
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not one of those X-clap guys

cobalt seal
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you should lose IV for that

dawn canyon
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nerfclap andyclap lepanclap etc

slim zinc
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Nothing weak like that here

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Full on pepecopter

toxic pewter
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apbclap

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That my new name

raw wagon
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hey can anyone help me get to 50 ill pay 67k gold im lvl 28 rn

dawn canyon
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just play the game man

toxic pewter
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Lmao

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This guy totally trolling

dawn canyon
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do dungeons and quests

raw wagon
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but im lazy

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LMFAO

urban portal
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67k

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Lmao

toxic pewter
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What server u on

urban portal
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Minimum wage or what

raw wagon
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area 52

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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Omg that my server

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No joke

raw wagon
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lol

toxic pewter
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I am poor

cobalt seal
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imagine people from NA being in Area 52

toxic pewter
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I could use the gold for df..

dawn canyon
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leveling boosts

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is the most HORRID

cobalt seal
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what a surprise

dawn canyon
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THING

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EVER

urban portal
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Go work 30 minutes at McDonald’s

dawn canyon
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its sooo unfun to do

toxic pewter
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I can spam dungeons with you

raw wagon
toxic pewter
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If you pay me half gold at start

dawn canyon
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do mop tw at 50

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more fun thansl

raw wagon
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alright ill dm when im ready

toxic pewter
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Ok I’ll dm you tomorrow

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Ate mcdonalds

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
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Too lazy at the moment

cobalt seal
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dont do it

toxic pewter
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Ok

raw wagon
cobalt seal
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you gonna lose your gold

toxic pewter
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Cro says I can’t do it

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Oh

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LOL

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you think I’m the scammer

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Jesus wtf dude

cobalt seal
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never pay before the job is done

dawn canyon
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man just play the game

toxic pewter
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Half at start is normal

dawn canyon
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its <16h to 60

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so just play

viral arch
dawn canyon
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probably not

viral arch
dawn canyon
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i only recall a +3 weekly nw

trail glacier
dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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Cro you can call me a troll but please do not call me a scammer without proof

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That is rude

cobalt seal
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okay scammer

toxic pewter
viral arch
trail glacier
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cro being rude weird

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that has never happened before

toxic pewter
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Lmao

dawn canyon
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bro everyone cool is friends with yuzu on discord... damn

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she been hustlin

toxic pewter
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Who that

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I’ll add them as friend

dawn canyon
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yuzu is someone who was active here mid sod and since quit the game

toxic pewter
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They come back for s4

dawn canyon
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no

toxic pewter
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Or df

plush prism
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hey friendos. I am just choosing my covenant for the first time and I've heard Kyrian >>>> for Prot, but I really like the idea of the banner movement and stuff with Necrolord. Is going Necro going to be a big nerf over Kyrian?

toxic pewter
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Necro.

dawn canyon
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you are lucky

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necro is the better pick

plush prism
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oh

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well isn't that swell

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I dunno, heard all the top warrs are running Kyrian or something

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but who knows what I read

dawn canyon
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yknow whats even better

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banner is cool, right?

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now imagine you have it THE ENTIRE time

toxic pewter
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Get ready to go fast cosmos. Real fast.

plush prism
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wait how do you have it the entire time lol

chrome falcon
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necro is much, much better

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
plush prism
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how much do you think it costs to craft that this late into expansion

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the lego

dawn canyon
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40k for both

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tops

plush prism
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oh that's fine

toxic pewter
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Season 4 soon, so legendaries may be going higher

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Ilvl wise I mean

dawn canyon
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so happy i spent 150k on them week 1 critcake

plush prism
toxic pewter
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I hope so

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No one knows yet

plush prism
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would it be smart for me to wait

cobalt seal
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No

plush prism
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and is there a date on S4?

toxic pewter
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That’s up to you if you have the gold available might as well do it now

dawn canyon
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3 resets iirc

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its very son

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soon

toxic pewter
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I have a feeling they will have an upgrade system for season 4 legendaries

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Or even just keep them at 291

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But I have been wrong before

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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I couldn’t have put it better myself

plush prism
toxic pewter
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Wow

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Do it

plush prism
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will do

toxic pewter
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Practice necrolord. It’s a lot of fun

dawn canyon
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log runs

plush prism
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which set is it? the most recent raid?

dawn canyon
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yep

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armaments of the infinite infantry

plush prism
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so I can just RF the shit set for now to get the bonus

toxic pewter
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Creation catalyst

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Check wowhead for creation catalyst

dawn canyon
slim zinc
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learning necro is like learning piano

plush prism
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oh lord what is that? I literally just got back to the game haha sorry for all these questions. haven't played since previous xpac

dawn canyon
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so you dont even have to raid for tier

cobalt seal
slim zinc
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well yeah, doing keys/raids is also good but target dummies are free real estate to practice muscle memory

toxic pewter
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Do you have reprisal yet cosmos

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Gotta get that too. That’s important

sick sentinel
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do that

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and whatever it changes to do those quests

dawn canyon
cursive tree
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I was doing some research . (Prot warrior in vanilla -> cata and sprinkled in for rest of the expacs)

Is necro best m+ ? It was kyrian all expac but it was listed on icy veins

chrome falcon
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yes necro best for all

cursive tree
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Necro dream lives

errant oriole
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if I am at 32% haste should I still gem and enchant for haste?

mighty valley
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yeah probably

errant oriole
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wasn't sure about diminishing returns or what not

mighty valley
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they kick in mildly at 30%, get worse at 40%

errant oriole
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oh

sick sentinel
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you don't actually lose stat, you just don't gain as much per point

mighty valley
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how on earth would you lose stats from gaining stats

errant oriole
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O_O

sick sentinel
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thats what im saying

cursive tree
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I think he’s trying to explain how diminishing returns works

mighty valley
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yeah i just... don't know who could be confused

sick sentinel
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no worries,

cursive tree
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Well if you never dove into your stats .. DR was never a concern

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The scaling decrease in haste% after a break point has not always been the case .. plus DR hasn’t been very relevant since mists

sick sentinel
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DR is totally relevant for stuns in mythic + type thing

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after 3, no effect, stun spell is is useless if it deals no damage or effect

cursive tree
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Oh that’s a different DR than haste breakpoints

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But okay fair

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..feels like your being argumentative for no reason

sick sentinel
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and a longer stun is preferable to do first it possible in terms of DR, so like, storm bolt first, then shockwave, dunno where cow stomp fits in, but im saying you get a 4second stun off storm bolt, then u do next stun and it states 3 seconds but its half'd duration, so thats 1.5 seconds, and then cow stomp/shockwave 2 seconds is only 1 second

sweet summit
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not relevant, yogi

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wrong DR

cursive tree
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You are correct .. however you started with stat break point dr and then swapped to stun / interupt DR .. apples and oranges

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Hail the queen

toxic pewter
agile pumice
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dks would disagree

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damn u got me

sick sentinel
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drw

agile pumice
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dragon rawr

sick sentinel
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dragon roar auto include for df

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this brings up questiin also, can huunters tame dragon

analog radish
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Is codex a meme trinket?

toxic pewter
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Who else excited for neltharian’s fury

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Codex bad. See pin for confirmation

analog radish
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Is it good for BDK?

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sorry wrong discord

toxic pewter
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Maybe

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Also maybe not bad for vdh

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Wouldn’t surprise me is bad for bdk

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Cuz they have so much mitigation

hazy edge
# analog radish Is it good for BDK?

general thing is it's bad for every tank. the only exception is vdh once you get to higher fort keys, and bdk once you get to giga insanely high keys.

analog radish
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i'm using an alchemist stone though

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its 262 but i put on wrong progenitor essentia augment thing

toxic pewter
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I would switch that out for a ring or something and just use codex until get better trinket like soleah or phial personally

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What’s ur other trinket

analog radish
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scale but only 239

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its locked cuz its a season 2

toxic pewter
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Ya try to get higher ilvl scale

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And just use codex. Get jewel crafting ring with high Haste

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That’s what I would do until able to replace codex

sick sentinel
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My friend who was a dk who was an alchemist go to trinket for bfa was such stone cuz he could get more healing from his potions which he made

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Sound logic for a bdk main imo

chrome falcon
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Nope not really

cursive tree
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In regards to current m+ circuit .. how viable is warrior vs how represented is it

chrome falcon
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Probably the biggest gap ever between community perception/representation and viability

open bluff
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perfectly capable, community thinks it's shit

hazy edge
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In the wise words of Andybrew, prot war is insanely underrepresented. you could get 4k io as prot no questions asked. Just no one is playing it.

open bluff
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biggest issue with prot warrior right now is it requires more than 2 brain cells to play

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so the average wow player is going to give it a wide berth

cursive tree
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I’ve been tanking since vanilla .. I put my shield on the shelf after cata to play my warlock but I did tank through the expacs didn’t raid tho .. so I’m willing to dust off the shield

open bluff
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honestly if you pug the hardest part of prot warrior is getting into keys

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but once you're in prot is literally the immovable object and unstoppable force rolled into one, have surprised quite a few pugs over the last couple of weeks carrying them

median tulip
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To quote one healer I pugged with: "I thought Prot war was bad"

onyx vessel
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I dont have trouble getting into 15s

median tulip
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A braindead fish could tank 15s though

onyx vessel
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Respond with your welcome for the carry

onyx vessel
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I never said tanking 15s was hard

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People still buy 15 carrys

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So you can see if you push keys you are probably the 1% er

toxic pewter
open bluff
median tulip
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I have had some atrocious DKs when I've been playing my Shaman and Priest

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Being FOTM means a lot of the shitlers play DK

open bluff
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yeah, but they can still usually manage 15s

median tulip
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You could probably run a 15 successfully without a tank at this point in the season

hearty perch
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Guys, in M+ (Necro 4pc) AOE priority: ShieldSlam > Revenge/execute > TC?

hazy edge
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ye but add like 10 more > before TC

onyx vessel
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Means alot of shitters are gonna play it cuz easy groups

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Locks and hunters who dont do shit but you invite them cuz you expect them to pump

onyx vessel
muted nexus
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the worst part is people that meta chase are still incapable of playing the classes that are overtuned to their actual potential

onyx vessel
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Monk tanking is pretty fun too damage breakdown is wicked

muted nexus
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so it's just a mild gain at best

onyx vessel
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Keg smash 40%

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Zoomer spec

muted nexus
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im not even a zoomer sadge

onyx vessel
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Go from playing pwarr to monk

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Fortyounonce?

muted nexus
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🍺

onyx vessel
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Dont know how many times im looking at my buff bar up top seeing 0/5 priest buff

muted nexus
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arms is also arguably mad fun

onyx vessel
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Hmm probably

muted nexus
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prot is a blast tho, so it's hard to play 1 character with 2 specs

onyx vessel
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I dont like it

muted nexus
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spin go brrr

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at 258 ilv

onyx vessel
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Survival hunt dmg with 4 peice

muted nexus
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i alted surv in 9.0 and loved it

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then i skipped 9.1

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and went mm in 9.2 keks

onyx vessel
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Watching mdi watching them pull shit on bosses doing 100k dps makes me wanna do it

muted nexus
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now i am alting afflic lock

onyx vessel
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But trash i play with gonna do like 10k dps and die

muted nexus
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surv getting clapped in 9.2.5? idk the deetz

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i heard destro is gettin whacked

onyx vessel
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You dont get whacked if you kill them before they do anything

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Run a monk aoe stuns kill them in the stuns

muted nexus
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i meant patch wise

onyx vessel
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O yeah big whack

muted nexus
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i haven't seen anything on surv

onyx vessel
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Lock turns into a 2min burst class

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Instead doing perma big dam

muted nexus
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afflic feels great rn tbh

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destro just felt too boomy

onyx vessel
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Demo

muted nexus
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thats one of the ones i haven't tried with 4pc / lego setup yet

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if they ever untrash spriests clunk tier aoe i will reconsider playing it

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until then my spriest is coffin mode 🛌

onyx vessel
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A friend of mine is a spriest main they do alot of dmg just small trash mobs kinda suck

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He hates when i pull huge

muted nexus
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the dmg is good

onyx vessel
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Yeah they very strong

muted nexus
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but the aoe rotation squatting on a talent is so gross feeling

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because it comes via a channel

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that if you don't have basically perfect input and a certain haste breakpoint, you can only get 2/3 possible casts

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i will give them top marks for the visuals though, the little shadow duders are wicked

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apparitions*

onyx vessel
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Don't see too many spriests tho

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Doesnt mean there weak just not fun to play m+ like aff lock

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Multidotters

muted nexus
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spriest def requires more class depth knowledge, the rotation gets wild

onyx vessel
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I believe it

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Some people like that shit

muted nexus
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its visually rewarding though gladge

onyx vessel
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Prot war requires that spammy playstyle with banner

muted nexus
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yea prot war is surprisingly difficult to maintain banner effectively

onyx vessel
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Reprisal just kinda a pain to use

muted nexus
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took me like a solid week of smashing low-mid keys to practice

onyx vessel
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If we had intercept like in bfa

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Would be crack

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Setup a focus marco on the survival hunter and spam it

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I should do that but i get into the fury warrior playstyle

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Just smash face and end up with no rage for shield block and rocked

muted nexus
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been there sadge

onyx vessel
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I do low keys on the monk

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Rushing jade wind and kegs

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Easy mode

muted nexus
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monk stagger system is actually dummy op

onyx vessel
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Its honestly the easiest feeling tank

muted nexus
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i haven't done prot pala, only did bdk in 9.0

onyx vessel
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Ive only done pwarr and monk so i can't really speak well this xpac

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Did boost a dk but was too lazy to set it up

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Perfect time to do it since you can swap flux at 1500 to 1250 for alts

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Bad deal but who cares

muted nexus
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i boosted a hunter not knowing the mm rotation is 3 buttons

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regrat

onyx vessel
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Play survival

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Or bm

muted nexus
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i could give surv another try, but it all depends on whats gonna happen with 9.2.5

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i can't find any surv info on it sadge

onyx vessel
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Fair mm can pump comparable dmg

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Just survival massive instant burst

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Mm will probably pull ahead

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With the addition of old raids being scaled up and legendary bow existing and being busted af

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Could defo see a resurgence of mm hunters instead in shaded

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Old sl raids

muted nexus
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iirc the secondary scaling is very favorable for hunters in general

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could mean big numbers for mm

onyx vessel
urban portal
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You realize the gap between Windwalker and say shadow priest is like 3% ish

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Nothing compares to borrowed power

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That being said survival is getting a nerf come 9.2.7, though not sure if they are nerfing st or aoe

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However they are getting jotungeirr back which will make their on pull burst crazy

muted nexus
urban portal
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Yeah those are all myths

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Doesn’t matter when survival has the insanely op jotungeirr

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While ranged hunters are stuck with the bow

muted nexus
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i mean mastery works differently for each spec

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but yes i understand that

urban portal
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Yes I know what you are talking about

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And I’m saying stat scaling means 0

muted nexus
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i'm more or less referring to the ilvl bump which means more overall secondary stats

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that comes with 9.2.5

urban portal
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Yes

muted nexus
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what is it, 311 or some poop?

urban portal
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That means 0 compared to any balance changes or borrowed power they may have access to

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Just like how fury warrior scales well with stats

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Dumpster tier right now

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Dumpster tier in 9.0

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Until blizzard gave them 29% aura buff+46% damage on melees

muted nexus
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obv something like 2-5% of a secondary isn't going to be a game changer

urban portal
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Shadow priest had that happen twice to the opposite affect, scales well

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Blizzard hits em with the nerf bat in 9.1

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And again in 9.2

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Turns out your spec don’t scale well if blizzard doesn’t like you

muted nexus
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well yes of course

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my only complaint is i don't have any solid news/word on the actual nerfs

muted nexus
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also how does the world feel about phial vs sack?

vernal vale
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Sadly some of the best damage ftinkets we have as prot

mighty valley
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just sim them

strong forum
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Phial is better cuz mainstat

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Sack averages out in St due to the proc doing more dmg
But the more targets there are, the better phial will become cuz of str

brittle owl
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u can phial my sack

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😳

nocturne pecan
cinder storm
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Got to 3k io on my alt bdk after a top 23 then timed a pf 24, DPS died twice on mist 25 first boss...honestly, nothing beats the fun that is pwar

onyx vessel
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Hold up

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Dephial

blazing condor
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Im gonna ”phial” for divorce

dawn canyon
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W

feral jewel
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Are there any abilities worth macroing together? Like SS and SB? I’m getting overwhelmed by the amount of button there is to press

jagged pier
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No

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The one 2 u can macro and should are intervene and charge

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Someone at a computer than can get to the macro please post

feral jewel
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Don’t worry about it. I’m a filthy clicker so I use healbot as my party frames and have right click set to intervene

dawn canyon
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you will not play pwar well clicking

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unless you have starcraft apm

feral jewel
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I’ve tried key binds and idk I just can’t

strong forum
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you'll have a bad time being a pwar as a clicker

feral jewel
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I feel I’m doing alright so far. Only been playing prot warrior for 2 weeks now and got almost all 15s timed this week. Banner uptime is what I need to improve the most. It’s around 40~50% uptime

dawn canyon
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can you hold banner up 100% on a dummy?

feral jewel
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I’ve had times where I’ve had it up when it’s coming off cd but that when my pugs really good and keeping up on interupts and I’m not scrambling around trying to get everything grouped up nice

dawn canyon
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thats neat

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but do yourself a favour and try keybinds its gonna save you so much hassle in the long run

feral jewel
#

I tend to lose focus on building and spending rage when I’m running around kicking casters and shit

onyx vessel
#

Ive done clicking while eating ice cream mid key

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It melted on my keyboard

dawn canyon
#

pwar prolly least good clicker tank

onyx vessel
#

You know what is

#

A dead tank is a clicker tbh

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Maybe a bear

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Or dk

#

Ive probably tanked with a clicker

#

Been like why do i always have threat

dawn canyon
#

just keybind like r or f

onyx vessel
#

My f is interrupt and r is shield block

dawn canyon
#

f is kick r is execute

onyx vessel
#

Excute for me need to be rekeybound

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Its on like alt q

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💩

dawn canyon
#

i had it on r for both dps

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so i just put it there for pwar too

drifting juniper
#

guys

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i have a problem

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my NF shapeshift silences me

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i have to remove it by right click

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anyone had similar problem at any time?

dawn canyon
#

all i can do is flame keybinds sorry

strong forum
#

Are you inside the covenant Hall of the nightfae?

drifting juniper
#

No and it doesnt matter

#

whenever i try to use any spell it says cannot do that in shapeshift form

strong forum
#

Kek

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No clue what to do about it besides swap cov back and forth or logout

#

See if that fixes anything

drifting juniper
#

done that

dawn canyon
#

ticket

sick sentinel
#

... dh problems

drifting juniper
#

pretty annoying ngl

#

might aswell creat cancelaura macro for it

tough inlet
#

Maybe it has something to do with the auto unmount option in the interface section?

drifting juniper
#

nope didnt work

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i even changed my shapeshift

hazy edge
#

Nah it's because most dh abilities have the "not is shapeshift" aura tag. Samething happens if you try and Lichborne on a dk in soulshape. You'll need to create a cancel macro for it.

restive sage
#

You’ll never go back to clicking after you figure it out

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Clicking is dogshit

wintry nymph
#

i honestly think its impressive that you do 15's with clicking

modern brook
#

I mean we out geared 15s in like, February

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Let the man click he's got all the cheater healer addons to make it work

shell fox
wintry nymph
shell fox
#

but just overpower and some skills

dawn canyon
#

can ≠ good to do

shell fox
#

its a choice, if they think its better, it is

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also he plays like that since vanilla, so he must be a master on it.

feral jewel
#

That’s kinda where I’m at. I played all of BC, wrath, and cata clicking. Just came back a month or 2 before SoD dropped.

dawn canyon
#

id relearn but its your choice

feral jewel
#

I’ve tried. And actually my plan was to have this warrior be my intro into keybinds but mannnnnnn I picked the wrong spec lol

shell fox
#

tanking clicking?

dawn canyon
#

prot would be ideal to have binds

#

do you play any other games with keybinds?

shell fox
#

oh well, harsh ngl

feral jewel
#

Not really. Played PoE for a bit before coming back to wow. Wouldn’t really consider the flask piano as keybinds

dawn canyon
#

i dont know how poe works so thats prolly not of help

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but i usually recommend grabbing 1-5ish and then adding other comfortable clicks to your binds

feral jewel
#

That’s what people in my guild have said but I can’t imagine using WASD for movement plus 1-5 keybinds

wintry nymph
#

what do u use for movement?

feral jewel
#

My fingers would be a pretzel

dawn canyon
#

q and e are good since you arent spamming a/d all the time so your fingers and go up and click those

wintry nymph
#

ive always had stuff like

#

1234, q e r f c v g t + those with Shift combo

dawn canyon
#

i use 12345qerfyxcvgtzh and mouse side buttons gladge

wintry nymph
#

or even alt

#

oh ye mouse buttons too

dawn canyon
#

scrollwheel works but i dont use that

feral jewel
#

A and E are strafe

toxic pewter
#

Howdy gang

wintry nymph
#

in the end it is personal preference

feral jewel
#

Q*

toxic pewter
#

How goes it this fine day

wintry nymph
#

howdy partner

dawn canyon
#

i strafe with a and d

wintry nymph
#

same %

toxic pewter
#

🤠

wintry nymph
#

^ *

dawn canyon
#

no point in keyboard turning

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when you can just move with camera

toxic pewter
#

Who here clicks. We got any clickers in the house

muted nexus
#

i have an unadmittable amount of keybinds on shift + <key>, including function keys sadge

elfin surge
#

shamefully raises hand

toxic pewter
elfin surge
#

in my defense ive been clicking since vanilla and im old 😛

toxic pewter
#

Clickers LEAVE THIS WEBSIGHT

feral jewel
toxic pewter
#

Im old too

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Haven’t clicked a button since the spring of 1992

wintry nymph
#

im not old but i surely feel my back already

muted nexus
#

how do you click when warrior has like 8 pages of abilities deadge

wintry nymph
toxic pewter
#

Yeah you guys gotta bind

#

Time is now

dawn canyon
#

how do you click spear

#

or ravager

wintry nymph
#

or ravager

#

ye

dawn canyon
#

so u click and then select area?

toxic pewter
#

YapeepoBlush

feral jewel
#

What worries me the most is I can’t type without looking at my keyboard so if my hand moves a little bit I’ll have to look at my keyboard to get my hand back in position

elfin surge
#

yep

muted nexus
#

most keyboards have a physical trait on the home row key(s) that help you locate resting positions

wintry nymph
#

you don't have to key bind if you don't wanna, but i think most ppl would recommend it

feral jewel
muted nexus
#

usually a little nub peepoBlush

toxic pewter
#

Wait you guys only click like one or two buttons right

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The rest you have bound

feral jewel
#

Click em all

toxic pewter
#

Wat

#

Ok you guys must be trolling

feral jewel
#

Nothing bound

wintry nymph
#

apb is confused

dawn canyon
#

may i see where on your screen your actiobars are

toxic pewter
#

Major trolls occurring at the moment

elfin surge
#

no combi of wasd 1-5 and click the rest

muted nexus
wintry nymph
toxic pewter
#

And they say I’m a troll phil

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Nobody clicks all the abilities

wintry nymph
#

i know a guild thats 11/11 hc with mostly 50+ ppl, and all clickers too

cobalt seal
#

still higher banner uptime than yogi

feral jewel
#

Only “bind” I may have is I right click a melee frame on healbot to intervene

muted nexus
#

it's whatever if u enjoy the game like that ig, just know that you're actively hindering your potential

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
#

When I say someone is a clicker, it means majority of their abilities are bound. Have like 1-4 abilities that they found difficult to bind as clickable. That is what is occurring. No one actually clicks all abilities.

minor helm
#

Plenty of people click

wintry nymph
#

i stil think its impressive anyway

#

xd

feral jewel
#

I main enhance and have Aotc in SoD and Current raid plus push mythic

minor helm
#

I have people in my CE guild who click most of their abilities

wintry nymph
#

they did take 70+ pulls on a nerfed jailer to get him down @dawn canyon

dawn canyon
wintry nymph
#

i have it on 2

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close one

dawn canyon
wintry nymph
#

hah

dawn canyon
#

dayum

feral jewel
#

Yup

wintry nymph
#

y for spell reflect

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isn't that kinda far ?

muted nexus
#

bruh my fingers hurt looking at those

dawn canyon
#

y is below a and s

wintry nymph
#

ooh

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i see

#

qwerty for me

#

that makes sense then

dawn canyon
#

even then i use z

wintry nymph
#

the heck

#

thats so far

toxic pewter
#

Ban all clickers

#

Who with me

dawn canyon
#

my fave bind is alt W

wintry nymph
#

how long are your fingers

dawn canyon
wintry nymph
#

xd

dawn canyon
#

from uh farthest finger to pointer i can press shift J

toxic pewter
#

Lmao

wintry nymph
#

i can do that too

#

but

#

thats not optimal

#

mid key

#

i could reach

#

shift 9

cobalt seal
#

Ban all scammers

wintry nymph
#

with 1 hand

cobalt seal
#

who with me

wintry nymph
muted nexus
toxic pewter
#

Cromation just dm me- he told me he is a clicker

cobalt seal
#

clickable WA!

muted nexus
#

f keys wicked

toxic pewter
#

Wtf

#

People actually use f keys

#

Wat

wintry nymph
toxic pewter
#

🤮

wintry nymph
#

!!

cobalt seal
#

what do you mean

dawn canyon
#

naowh's one is classcolor unit frames so get rolled

cobalt seal
#

it's not like I spent 1 day

#

changing the UI

wintry nymph
#

it looks strangely similar to naowhs

#

that you can get by subbing to him

dawn canyon
#

keybinds on weakaura?

wintry nymph
dawn canyon
#

i made peepo

wintry nymph
#

i half copied the one from Sense

dawn canyon
#

i think my fury one is better but arms is higher equipped ilvl so i do that keks

toxic pewter
#

An old ss of mine

toxic pewter
wintry nymph
#

its clean fa

wintry nymph
toxic pewter
#

Lol what

#

Don’t what

wintry nymph
#

it hurts

toxic pewter
#

Back when I played some druid

#

What you mean

dawn canyon
#

@wintry nymphfury gladge

wintry nymph
#

how do flame clickers for playing like that, when you played with that UI

stone spoke
#

There's like 3 typhoons and rejuvs hanging around

toxic pewter
#

Yeah that was for a while ago

#

I changed a bit since then

wintry nymph
dawn canyon
#

target of target

wintry nymph
#

ah

#

aight

#

nice one

#

prefer arms tho

dawn canyon
#

arms one i made based on my dk one and havent updated in a while

#

didnt fit the fury footprint sadge

wintry nymph
#

this was mine

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in 9.0

#

its a bit different now

dawn canyon
#

ah luxthos

wintry nymph
#

yes

#

still use that for fury / arms, not for prot tho

dawn canyon
#

i disliked his fury one so i made a copy of some other aura

#

which then devolved into what i have now

muted nexus
toxic pewter
#

Ya that was when I had my ui in perhaps it’s most efficient stage

#

Made a lot of changes since then

muted nexus
#

it looks like what i imagine f2p with ads would look like

sweet summit
#

that is not your ui

toxic pewter
#

Huh

#

Wat

dawn canyon
#

@toxic pewterfrom when is "your" screenshot

elfin surge
#

my ui from now ... with wa, i never liked luxthos so made my own except for the ob and spell reflect

toxic pewter
#

are you a clicker

elfin surge
#

but i know i click too much - just find it hard to change to binds

toxic pewter
#

You can watch videos to help you with keybinds

muted nexus
#

you'll never like keybinds until you force yourself to learn how to play on them

#

once you do though bedge

dawn canyon
muted nexus
#

is that charge/intervene on split macro?

elfin surge
#

yeh

sick sentinel
#

Time for blade kit and gargoyle heart

drifting juniper
cobalt seal
#

that we know

#

it's not yours

toxic pewter
#

Cromation - please do not make fun of my ui

cobalt seal
#

but a scammer gotta scam

toxic pewter
#

I am a simple man, I played druid for some time

cobalt seal
#

ofc you did scammer

toxic pewter
#

Hating on a man’s ui

#

That’s so like you

cobalt seal
#

if that was your UI

#

but it isn't

toxic pewter
dawn canyon
#

first image

toxic pewter
#

Lol

feral jewel
urban portal
#

It’s belf

elfin surge
#

no...

urban portal
#

on gcd

elfin surge
#

i click it

urban portal
#

Can’t macro it

dawn canyon
#

belf racial macro
/use Arcane Torrent

toxic pewter
#

What’s a macro

#

You mean micro

feral jewel
#

Since when are racials on gcd?

toxic pewter
#

Some are

#

Some aren’t

urban portal
#

Belf is

#

And so is goblin missiles

toxic pewter
#

Yea think orc and troll aren’t

urban portal
#

Stat buffs aren’t

#

Fairly sure human isn’t either

#

Lightforged is

feral jewel
#

I’ve been fucking up. As a troll enhance I have the racial macroed to storm strike. Though all racials were off gcd

toxic pewter
#

Vulpera is

urban portal
#

Troll is off gcd

toxic pewter
#

Should line up racial with other cd’s probably

urban portal
#

Enh shaman doesn’t have cds

toxic pewter
#

Oh

feral jewel
#

Yup. Ain’t gotta line nothing up

dawn canyon
feral jewel
#

Well fae transfusion and PI so I get that juicy haste inside my haste circle

dawn canyon
#

pi garms

feral jewel
#

Wolfs are up so often you just send it

dawn canyon
#

ya ofc but still needs a click

vernal vale
cobalt seal
#

why?

vernal vale
#

I started on just a keyboard but going to a 12 button grid mouse really is nice for keeping binds clean and easy without twisting your hand

cobalt seal
#

You don't need a mouse to play wow

vernal vale
#

alt, shift, and control modifiers are all super easy with any button on the mouse

cobalt seal
#

(keybinds)

cobalt seal
#

you have plenty of buttons to bind stuff

vernal vale
#

My spouse stuggled with keyboard bindings but the mouse helped them figure it out.

#

Its another option to learn keybindings and I've been very happy with the logitech mouse.

#

Comfortable in the hand and has a good resolution for anything you want to do.

cobalt seal
#

that requires people spending money

#

while I'm pretty sure everyone has a keyboard

sick sentinel
#

according to dalle mini a bad wow ui is the default one

toxic pewter
minor helm
#

Real and true

toxic pewter
#

I’m excited for the df ui update

feral jewel
sick sentinel
#

i can choose this or literal the same belt equipped but 6 ilvl higher belt

hazy edge
#

Hey ilvl is good

urban portal
#

the socket looking kinda good tho

#

whats the stats on the belt

sick sentinel
#

both are ilvl for me, 272 in both

hazy edge
#

ye the neck looks nice

sick sentinel
#

crit vers

urban portal
#

iirc a socket is like 12 ilvls or something

hazy edge
#

haste/crit+socket is nice

patent osprey
#

no your neck looks nice @hazy edge 😉

urban portal
#

on a jewlery piece

urban portal
urban portal
#

or do you still have to maintain alts

patent osprey
urban portal
#

nice

patent osprey
#

full time Warrior now

urban portal
#

no more brew prison

#

how was that

patent osprey
#

Prison

#

so now im back DPSing on my warrior for raid

#

so I can key on my warrior xD

#

for next tier

urban portal
#

is your guild doing 9.2.7 raids

cobalt seal
#

didn't a mod

#

tell him

#

to stop the youtube videos?

urban portal
#

yep

sick sentinel
#

rip

#

only serious warrior discussion here

#

srs bsns only

#

😠

cobalt seal
sick sentinel
#

you know you are still blocked right

cobalt seal
#

he seems more worried about it then me

sick sentinel
#

every single time i talk to you, its combative

#

so i blocked you

cobalt seal
#

it's not like I prob have 20 people blocking me

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sick sentinel
#

end of the day, i'm just some random guy trying to play a video game, nothing more or less, anything before and beyond you see past that is a fascade

toxic pewter
dreamy wedge
#

Got 278 Sitchflesh to replace crafted ring, which trink should use? I know codex isn't great it's basically all I have atm lol

sick sentinel
#

That avoidance codex gave me a half chub

dreamy wedge
#

Is 4% by itself ye

cobalt seal
#

is hilarious

#

considering you prob don't have much to spare

dreamy wedge
#

I didn't my guild is just bad and I got that really early

#

I literally have not gotten good trinkets all season

cobalt seal
#

all season?

#

and you just have those 2?

dreamy wedge
#

That and a reactive defense matrix from last season

#

Swear to god

open bluff
toxic pewter
#

I would personally just use codex until can get a soleah’s or phial or something

dreamy wedge
#

Valor went to upgrading the 10,000 accessories and converted tier I got until I finally got 278s from vault for those slots

#

I know So'leah's is good, but using it in groups of people where other people have it is such cancer

cobalt seal
cobalt seal
#

you have soleah and RDM

#

and are using those 2?

dreamy wedge
#

I don't have a So'leah's no, my friends do

#

And they bitch about how sharing it is aids

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
#

It’s not that bad

dreamy wedge
#

If I had a So'leah's this conversation wouldn't be happening lol

cobalt seal
#

use RDM lol

#

you have a better trinket

dawn canyon
#

Codex aint it and apb is on copium

#

Rdm is good

toxic pewter
#

Oh didn’t realize he had an rdm

cobalt seal
#

reading is hard we know

dreamy wedge
#

I was using RDM and Codex, now I was thinking of replacing the Codex with the alch stone

cobalt seal
#

sell codex

#

or disenchant

dreamy wedge
#

Mkay, stone and RDM it is then lol. Next season this will be easy, just raid and get Aegis+RDM and never think about it for the rest of the xpac

#

Asuming they don't nerf the shit out of them

dawn canyon
#

OWS aegis

#

Arguably

dreamy wedge
#

In good groups where you can make sure it doesn't drop prolly better ye. I don't have that luxury; in a family good with a buncha boomers

#

But been playing with them for like 15 years so like, not going anywhere

dawn canyon
#

Youre the tank you may chain pull

cobalt seal
#

sounds like if it drops

#

it's on you

ocean yoke
#

rdm still nearly stacks up with most trinkets and its dated a patch now, id imagine it will be nuts again

cobalt seal
#

aegis is broken

dreamy wedge
#

Our healer is slow, in more ways than one, if I go too fast he can get frazzled

cobalt seal
#

and so is OWS

ocean yoke
#

yeah thats the holy trinity right there

dreamy wedge
#

I don't, the dps do.

cobalt seal
#

sounds like a they problem

dreamy wedge
#

I mean, it is, but there's not much I can do about it. Like I said, I've been playing with them since I was a kid I'm not gonna be like "y'all bad bye lol"

timber nest
#

so easily the trash that i have the most trouble with is the trash in streets in the first boss room. is there a rime or reason why they do much damage to me?

cobalt seal
#

just play your game and OWS is broken

#

you dont need a healer to survive

#

neither should dps die

#

in 5-10s

#

so I kinda missing the problem of playing OWS

dawn canyon
#

As dps with OWS i just ninja'd

#

So as tank it's even easier

dreamy wedge
#

We've pushed up to 15s now, and most assuredly they do in fact die...unfortunately.

#

Like a lot. RIP the poor Enh shaman esp.

dawn canyon
#

If you play to your strengths you can carry a 15 hard

cobalt seal
#

if they die

#

you ignore them

dawn canyon
cobalt seal
#

and keep playing

#

and play towards yourself

toxic pewter
#

No, cannot ignore your team

#

You are a leader

cobalt seal
#

scammer

#

pls stop

#

ty

toxic pewter
#

You must carry and protect your team

#

That is most important aspect of tanking

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
#

Nothing worse than a loser who leaves his team behind

cobalt seal
#

you

toxic pewter
#

A true leader realizes he is his team

open bluff
#

can't spell team without prot

toxic pewter
#

If your team is dying

#

That is on you

#

The buck stops at the tank

#

We are the leaders of the team

open bluff
#

eh

#

if the team's dying it's probably because the healer goofed

toxic pewter
#

No

#

Can blame healer and dps until your dying breath

#

But eventually you must realize

#

Your lack of success is on you

#

We are the leaders

#

We carry the responsibility

cobalt seal
#

can you stop trolling?

toxic pewter
#

Yes exactly. Failing is direct result of actually not leading your team effectively.

#

You are beginning to learn.

#

I’m not trolling, I firmly believe all I have typed.

cobalt seal
#

ofc you do

toxic pewter
#

I believe it, because it is true.

cobalt seal
#

but as usual

#

you are wrong

toxic pewter
#

We just have different philosophies

cobalt seal
#

doesn't make yours less wrong

toxic pewter
#

You prefer to go it alone, leave “losers” behind

#

I prefer to embrace responsibility and lead my team to victory

cobalt seal
#

Have you consider checking a doctor to fix you?

#

schizophrenia is kinda of a serious thing

toxic pewter
#

You are correct. It is very serious

muted nexus
#

is this too much haste

#

or not enough wicked

toxic pewter
#

Which is strange why you joke about it so much 🤔

cobalt seal