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toxic pewter
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Yogi the season is almost over, I want to see you do some 20s

cobalt seal
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nothing he said

toxic pewter
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I believe in yogi- always have

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Yogi do you stream?

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I would watch you

sick sentinel
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is the slam basically a 1 shot for dps first boss halls 17 and above?

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hunter goes in, yeeted to 20% hp by something > dead

toxic pewter
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For dps definitely hurts them yes

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After certain point it is 1 shot. Especially on tyran

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They really shouldn’t be near you at all to be honest

sick sentinel
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thats the log

sinful plover
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Does this also soak ranged attacks in front of me like spell bolts? Or only physical attacks?

lofty widget
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including dots

marsh aurora
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every attack for 8 sec is reduced by 5k

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it's insane

sinful plover
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So it’s time to start grinding for it

hazy edge
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As long as you are facing it

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I mean

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Just wait

toxic pewter
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Might as well wait for s4

hazy edge
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You’ll be able to get a free mythic one in s4

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sinful plover
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O shit i forgot about that! Hell yeah.

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robust surge
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that pack in front of Hakkars area is the bane of my existence on my prot warr

sinful plover
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The shadow core pack

robust surge
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yes

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I never feel safe there

hazy edge
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Dos is prots worst key

sinful plover
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Yeah

errant oriole
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dos needs taken out of the game 😦

toxic pewter
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Yes dos my most disliked key

sinful plover
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The magic damage sucks

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Then the first pack of Hakkar wing on inspiring affix

robust surge
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yeah that shits troll

toxic pewter
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Platform packs still mess me up on fort if things don’t go well

sinful plover
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What’s also troll is kyrian on sanguine

hazy edge
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Just los the caster and have dps go kill the dudes

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So the caster runs at you and doesn’t inspire the dudes

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Or just skip the pack

sinful plover
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True that

chrome falcon
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3k wasted rage

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eesh

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more IPs

toxic pewter
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You got this yogi

royal lodge
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On heroic Jailer, better to use the wall for more shield walls or reprisal for more shield block?

lofty widget
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reprisal

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with correct play SW is a 1 min cd with reprisal

royal lodge
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Okay, thanks.

river escarp
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So I decided to play pwar for 9.3 and just got both Leggos. Are Leggos going to be higher than 291 next season?

urban portal
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Likely

toxic pewter
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Hoping there will be a way to upgrade legendary instead of having to buy new base item. Or even just keep it at 291 to be honest

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I’m very poor

urban portal
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im still playing with 235 reprisal

toxic pewter
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Nice

dawn canyon
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Considering making a 291 EB mines still 235keks

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river escarp
cobalt seal
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considering everyone is gonna play 9.2.7

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you might be alone in 9.3

river escarp
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k

grave crane
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There won’t be a 9.3 I’d what he’s saying. But no one knows just yet about Lego levels

sick sentinel
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i try to explain what i did wrong while it makes sense to me so i attempt to get feedback and make notes of it

cobalt seal
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I had to see the replay

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to understand what you said

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and what you said made no sense after watching it

sick sentinel
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i'm gunna have to do an alt or new main or whatever in DF probably

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if i were to purchase the epic DF, i'd send current warrior to high pop ally with some gold

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boost a warrior horde on this server,

dawn canyon
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Not recommend to aim it on clothies etc

sick sentinel
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it was a hunter, he went, 90% > 20% > dead in span of about 0.75 seconds

dawn canyon
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Hunters probably cant live it

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Since i have more HP and a 10% Dr during enrage

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Still chunks a lot

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Had this wonderful 21 Halls where the dh tank killed healer and hunter with one slam

cobalt seal
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you prob shouldn't face

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the slam

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towards people

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sick sentinel
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besides the obvious turtle and detterence i know huntar has SOME form of flat % dr

dawn canyon
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Hunters Mark dr

sick sentinel
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i think they get some when they do th leaf heal

dawn canyon
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But cmon

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Dont fucking slam your dps

marsh aurora
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they have a spell that gives 20%

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when pet is not up for MM

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:worry:

sick sentinel
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i dunno how he got slammed, nobody else did

marsh aurora
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that's not much compared to a fucking hoa slam

dawn canyon
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If he runs into you it's his fault

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dawn canyon
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Lmao

cobalt seal
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he just stood towards the party

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surv went in

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and got hit

dawn canyon
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Yea on pull i prefer turning him

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Just in case

marsh aurora
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i turn in to the wall usually

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and kite close to the wall for a while on tyrannical

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so it doesn't get too crowded for the 2nd set of beams

dawn canyon
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I dps halls a lot more than i tank it but usually turn away and then walk into the Center before he beams works

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2nd beams is sketchy but usually dies before

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Although i shouldnt have been top boss dam on my fury critcake

marsh aurora
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if you tank a few slams close to the wall you get 2 sets of beams for pretty much free

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assuming you cleared left side

dawn canyon
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You can also turn him inwards and slam the poop

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marsh aurora
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I can do that on baer cause i'm geared, my war can't do that cause poopoo gear

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ok leaving both sides alive on tyrannical isn't ideal to begin with

sick sentinel
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yeah, he ran up to me under the location where i was standing, as the ability went off

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poof

marsh aurora
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cause you don't want to lust this boss

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so he's gonna be running around for a bit

dawn canyon
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Ideally you dont have it back by then

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But it's not that fast this week

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Sanguine shards

sick sentinel
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hunter didnt get in position

marsh aurora
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i'll be happy when they let us spell reflect the stigma instead of beam

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that shit hits way too hard

dawn canyon
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Turn off debuffs on your unit frames

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And buffs on your Player frame

sick sentinel
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this is moments before disaster

marsh aurora
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jesus do you even see that

dawn canyon
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Idk man this is the 3rd interation of your UI and it's not getting any better

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Short dbm anchor is good

marsh aurora
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did you buff mid fight ?

dawn canyon
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Rest highly debatable

toxic pewter
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I believe and support yogi in all endeavors

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He is a good man

dawn canyon
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That's cool but like

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You cant play in this

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Or rather

toxic pewter
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If his ui works for him then let the man play

dawn canyon
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This makes it needlessly complex

marsh aurora
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oh if that works for him

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all good

toxic pewter
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It works well

dawn canyon
toxic pewter
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He did a +17 as far as I know

dawn canyon
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You can see the log, right?

cobalt seal
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"well" - 26% uptime on banner

dawn canyon
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Be careful cro you're about to be labeled a hater and bully

cobalt seal
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this doesn't seem

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a timed key

toxic pewter
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He finish it

cobalt seal
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I can also finish a 40 in 5h

toxic pewter
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Can’t time them all

cobalt seal
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and say I finish it

toxic pewter
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Yogi is a leader

dawn canyon
cobalt seal
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Apb is a troll

toxic pewter
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NO SIr

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You are the troll!!

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I am supporting my brother

cobalt seal
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doesn't make the fact that you are a troll wrong

dawn canyon
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Add more 1!1!!1 to make it more believable

toxic pewter
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Yogi swore he would not even do anything higher than 15

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And now he is doing 17s

sick sentinel
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yeah, the seeason resets in a few days anyway

dawn canyon
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You're the troll @toxic pewter! 1!1!1!1!1

cobalt seal
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"doing"

toxic pewter
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Gonna be doin 20s next week

dawn canyon
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See? A lot better

cobalt seal
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doing requires timing keys

toxic pewter
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Not every1 makes it on time sometimes

dawn canyon
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Doing your mom, untimed

toxic pewter
cobalt seal
toxic pewter
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You are doing well yogi

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My dad passed away

dawn canyon
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Pullout game weak 😵‍💫

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Sorry, toxic

cobalt seal
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who wouldn't having a troll kid

toxic pewter
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You are out of line sirs

cobalt seal
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I don't do drugs

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sorry

dawn canyon
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Yea im out of coke

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Im sad critcake

sick sentinel
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Shield block: 100% block

cobalt seal
dawn canyon
cobalt seal
sick sentinel
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we literally just angry bois

dawn canyon
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Angry at u not using sb 😵‍💫

toxic pewter
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You guys really hurt my feelings

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Not going to lie

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My dad was a good man

dawn canyon
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You are best of not taking things on the internet very serious

toxic pewter
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I think it’s best I take a break from the discord

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You win

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Cro

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You win

dawn canyon
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This again?

sick sentinel
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spoiler he returns

toxic pewter
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Good night and good luck

sick sentinel
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u stuck in the maze with us

dawn canyon
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Cya tomorrow

sick sentinel
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forever

cobalt seal
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I found his weak spot?

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this can be abused

dawn canyon
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Even if id prefer just pointing out shit takes

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People's family is none of my business

cobalt seal
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you know the prob of his dad being alive still is like 50/50?

dawn canyon
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Doesnt matter to me

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Had this guy we joked abt it since he overreacted to it and turns out their mother got murdered critcake

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Thats why id prefer not just going down on that cuz you never know what people go through

modern brook
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Also this isn't #makingfunofdads

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Ask mwahi. He might make the channel.

blazing condor
sand pebble
blazing condor
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maybe someone got ressed

cinder storm
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I'm a Yogi believer

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But damn of he needs to clean his ui

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Too much information you don't use/need to see/keep track off

wintry nymph
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man, reflecting that scythe on last boss TOP feels so good

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big deeps

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:D

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was only a 15, but still

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250k damage

dawn canyon
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peepostudy low exe

wintry nymph
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very true

dawn canyon
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Dead to fast prolly

wintry nymph
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had a couple 275 ilvl players in a 15, so ye died pretty fast

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also, i just didn't press it enough

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:)

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im 273 on prot warrior, whats an overall dps that i should be aiming at?

jagged pier
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~12k

wintry nymph
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mmh aight

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got some work to do

dawn canyon
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Tf the dps doing

cobalt seal
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Well

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Considering that dps

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You really didnt press execute

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From what you said i was expecting like 11k on someone

wintry nymph
wintry nymph
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as I said, got some work to do

cobalt seal
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Can always log

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To find what the work is

wintry nymph
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i might at some point

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im still getting used to prot in general

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so not having to look at my bars every now and then would be a good thing

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i feel like im capping a bit on rage somtimes instead of pressing more revenge / IP + im not executing enough

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switched to sense's UI (partly) which is really working for me already

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really liking it

open bluff
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Tank DPS is somewhat reliant on your actual DPS pumping, shorter pulls generally mean bigger numbers (especially if you can squeeze in executes during avatar)

wintry nymph
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the i checked, DK was 274, monk 252 and mage was 265

open bluff
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Not saying it’ll fix all your problems

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But it’ll help

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Wait your dk’a 274?

wintry nymph
open bluff
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And he got beat by a 250 ww

wintry nymph
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was running kyrian by accident too

wintry nymph
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played arms right before and forgot to switch back

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lots of stuff not optimal but hey, only 15 haha

open bluff
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Eh, kyrian isn’t a major yikes, shit happens

wintry nymph
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true

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prefer necro tho

jagged pier
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ppl just bad at game

wintry nymph
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ye dk wasnt pumping

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i did get some pretty big pulls, but man just didn't keep breath up long enough

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i saw that runic power bar drop really really fast

open bluff
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yeh, and last I checked frost is still largely a “just push buttons” spec

wintry nymph
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i was running that sweet merciless bonegrinder on arms

open bluff
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Explains his 370 io wadner

wintry nymph
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m

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300 io on dps

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he usually tanks

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3k rating on tank

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probably not optimised / used to frost

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and he is a dudu main

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so alt aswell

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can't really blame the guy

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8/11 M this tier so not half bad of a player

open bluff
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Just sucks at frost 👀

wintry nymph
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hah

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he a balance dudu

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can't be good at everything

pallid quiver
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8/11 M, can't play Frost

people are strange beings

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at least breath requires at least some familiarity to not cripple your own DPS

wintry nymph
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i mean, to defend him, he only did 2 keys as frost so he probably isn't familliar with the spec

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atleast he didn't die and all that in the key, besides getting knocked off by the whirlwind once keks

topaz field
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after what i have witnessed on 20s yesterday with my resto im not shocked any more

jagged pier
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🤷

wintry nymph
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🤷‍♂️

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Not everyone is the same

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haha

topaz field
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well i mean if his conduits are right

wintry nymph
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ur just good @jagged pier 😉

topaz field
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it helps a lot on ww not to play fae and brew conduits

pallid quiver
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Breath runs the risk of crippling your DPS if you mess it up, so he does have that at least

jagged pier
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well my point is just because he hasnt played it before inst an excuse for being bad

pallid quiver
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other specs you can fumble and still keep DPS, but playing breath and doing it wrong actually hurts a lot

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That being said, should've played obliterate then

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of course i ain't check any logs or anything like that so i could be wrong on all aspects

topaz field
zealous willow
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I love playing dk , cus of self sustain and almost not needing the healing from healer and cus of that reason i dont play warrior tank , but i see now they are a lot better with the tier set and im leveling atm my prot to give a shot. How u guys feel the self sustain of the warrior and is it that bad in m+ . do u die alot of cus healers mistake or slack ?

jagged pier
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if u play warrior correctly your health doesnt move

open bluff
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I carry my groups more often than not if healers die, but also not doing bleeding edge keys

jagged pier
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or go down

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literally soloed the last 50% of the last boss in a 20 HoA this week

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because the healer cant look at statues

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well not 50% 40% i guess

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cause of the soak mechanic

dawn canyon
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Slam healer and kill it to send a message xeos

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Oh last boss

jagged pier
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TLDR if u play correct indom is pretty much enough to keep u alive because u take so litterl damage

jagged pier
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needless to say we didnt time the key

dawn canyon
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Oh i had a 21 Halls depleted cuz hunter INSTANTLY dies to first Statue

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Also no curse dispell Halls critcake

jagged pier
dawn canyon
zealous willow
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Damn warriors rly

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got some love from blizard at last

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i saw a guy doing 42k executes

dawn canyon
zealous willow
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I rly want to push season 4 with warrios and i hope they will be good 😄

topaz field
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i had my first 130k execute on ingra Execute

dawn canyon
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This doesnt work anymore since the Boss dies before Min 8

wintry nymph
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the fuck

dawn canyon
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No it's a smoothie

wintry nymph
jagged pier
wintry nymph
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i see

jagged pier
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and hes running sigil

wintry nymph
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stlil that seems like a lot

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ah

jagged pier
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so 40% plus banner

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plus avatar

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plus demo

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plus sigil

wintry nymph
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stonks

jagged pier
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plus 8 stacks of ashen

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plus whatever else

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celestial buff

wintry nymph
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pots

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damn

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big damage

zealous willow
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Btw i see ppl play with necro for banner and i saw a guy who is keeping his banner alive 2m +

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is it only good for high keys or it is worth for 10-20 range keys too ?

topaz field
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also for 10-20

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just because its the best in general

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but if u want to full dps a 10

zealous willow
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so no matter what we go necro

topaz field
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u might see better results on kyrian^^

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but 10 is idk xD

zealous willow
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yeah not 10 i t was typo

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i do mostly 20s

topaz field
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ye u should run necro

jagged pier
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so u can have a banner for alot longer than 2 mins

topaz field
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u just need to get a feeling how your tierset works

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and then u need to use your reprisal basically on cd

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and you will have good banner uptime

jagged pier
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and yes no matter what u run necro its a 30% dps increase and like even higher than 30% suvivability increase

zealous willow
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What u think for season 4 affix

jagged pier
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boring

zealous willow
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It's hard to predict how that stats will effect all tanks , but do u think we will go crit ?

jagged pier
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no

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haste

topaz field
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just give us double outlaw prot ww meta back thank you blizzard

zealous willow
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i think fire mage will be meta

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affly warlock

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and maybe rogue cus of shroud and no skip affix

topaz field
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bah if i get another season of warlocks i start league again

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cant stand any more wls

zealous willow
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fire mage bracers from mechagon

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and they scale good with stats

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for affly im not sure btw

tame jasper
topaz field
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u have to w8 for tuning

tame jasper
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but aside from that I don't know about any changes so tanks wont switch...

topaz field
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perhaps Ion decides they were just joking

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ye dk will still be nonplusultra

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because he needs zero healing even on 28++

tame jasper
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but i dont care, I think I will only play S4 only for portals and KSM

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Don't have a raid anymore anyway so fated raids are not available too

strong forum
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People are too obsessed with meta

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I for one welcome the non-rogue meta

dawn canyon
lament musk
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Need more brown class

topaz field
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rogues are your natural friends as a warrior dont understand that hate

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is critcake that famous arms war who rerolled wl?

minor helm
dawn canyon
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Rolled and smoked

wild hemlock
lament musk
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I'm still playing warrior man....

minor helm
lament musk
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wl barely sees play

jagged pier
dawn canyon
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Ele fuck good

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Fun spec

slim pier
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It would be fun

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if it did damage

dawn canyon
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It does

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I beat ur SV on ele

slim pier
dawn canyon
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Rolled and smoked bozo

slim pier
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you did?

dawn canyon
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I did

slim pier
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That must have been in an alternate universe because id on't remember

dawn canyon
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It's as real as me beating ur wl in first pull of the SD we did before the dismiss incident

slim pier
sick sentinel
# sick sentinel

somebody ask why i had recastd battle shout here, shaman got 10-15 yard ahead of me and then i was going to put down world marker for the beam i was intending to block and explwin to group,
i then see shaman lightning bolt going at boss and boss goes merks shaman with melee since im a bit out pf range and not readt, maybe merks hunter in the confusion, everyones back alive i, i cast bs, i think we got the boss, and i see it happening and try to type nooo, but priest just angeled

wild hemlock
slim pier
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I'm not serious

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I think it's fun too

cinder storm
wild hemlock
slim pier
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yeah that's true

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I dislike that

devout heron
cobalt seal
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Is asking for troubles

wild hemlock
devout heron
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that would be so braindead

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tho

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but moving tanks killing eq dps, i totally agree

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i was playing ele only on dungeons like gambit cause of that

wild hemlock
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this sanguine week really hammered it home

languid carbon
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In a good way?

devout heron
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bad way

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probably

topaz field
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when we are in execute do we only press SS, execute and SB?

chrome falcon
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on ST yes pretty much

topaz field
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apart from avatar etc

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so i would ignore revenge procs?

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if i had enough rage

chrome falcon
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yeah probably

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unless you're low rage and need an SS proc

hazy edge
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Kinda. You can use them to fish for SS resets

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On st you pretty much ignore them besides this

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On like 3-4+ targets it’s good to use them regardless

topaz field
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thx

orchid frigate
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What 3 items will ppl pick in next season?

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Protwar ppl 🙂

dawn canyon
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ows aegis rdm all seem good

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but aegis mythic is a relatively easy grab if ur lucky

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cuz tbh nine wasnt very tricky

orchid frigate
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true will probably be a lot of pugs up for that

hazy edge
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Ye ows, rdm, whatever you want

wild hemlock
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ows aegis and prob a wep

hazy edge
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I’ll probably grab a high ilvl weapon or something

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Depends on what I have by that point

wild hemlock
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ows and aegis are 100% though for sure

hazy edge
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Mmm I’d rather have rdm over aegis personally

wild hemlock
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personally ive never had rdm, what does it do well?

hazy edge
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We’re already very tanky and rdm does really good dam

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It’s everything codex wishes it could be

wild hemlock
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true. aegis is just soooooo good

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ill probs get all three for trinkets then

topaz field
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is ows still so good if u get a ton of haste from affix?

wild hemlock
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i actually have to learn how to raid tank next patch

hazy edge
topaz field
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i also think aegis is an overkill on prot most of the time

hazy edge
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And max ilvl ows next patch is like 8.5% haste

topaz field
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tho i have not really experienced lethal keys yet

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rdms dmg is absurd btw

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from 252 to 318 or w/e the ilvl is

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the dmg doubles

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more than doubles even

hazy edge
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Yup

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rdm is gunna be busted

wild hemlock
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shitttt ill prolly get rdm then

topaz field
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ye rdm is must have on every single tank

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its st dmg is also pretty good

wild hemlock
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fawk it drops late though doesnt it?

topaz field
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yes

wild hemlock
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i dont want to raid tank at all lol

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maybe ill go dps

hazy edge
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Just do lfr fated

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And get it as one of your 3 free ones

topaz field
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it was guardian

wild hemlock
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i need the currency to upgrade though, correct?

topaz field
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yes but u get it for "free"

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if u just kill enough raid bosses

hazy edge
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The free ones are mythic ilvl

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No need to upgrade

wild hemlock
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yeah ill never tank mythic on this guy

topaz field
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so like if you want to spend it u should do it for rdm

hazy edge
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Unless they changed that

dawn canyon
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guardian is more of a "can we kills PS" thing

topaz field
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because aegis is an easy boss

dawn canyon
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im confident in my current guild to get it done gladge

urban portal
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If skips still work than it’ll be easy

dawn canyon
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they might not be the best but they are fun

lofty widget
hazy edge
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Whelp

lofty widget
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and you have to kill 20 hc/mythic bosses to upgrade it

dawn canyon
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i mean you can just go kill all up to council all up to ps and all up to andy

sick sentinel
#

they could bring a new version of onyxia to Dragon Flight

#

just sayin

dawn canyon
#

and get them all mythic ilvl

dawn canyon
sick sentinel
#

well, dragons an stuff magic shit yo

#

science

topaz field
#

do we already know how tiersets work?

#

u just upgrade?

hazy edge
#

Iirc yes

topaz field
#

same stats as this season and same slots?

hazy edge
#

Just throw them int the catalyst like this season

#

Ye

#

Only thing that’s changing is ilvl

sick sentinel
#

craft + upgrade would be ideal for me, you can craft it to heroic raid level quality, but you can only have mythic raid version drop on mythic raid boss

topaz field
#

ye or vault gear i guess

#

so basically like this season

sick sentinel
#

and so, like, it might be cool if you can get parts from LFR for LFR craft set, then you move on to normal, which is harder, same for heroic and if you really want mythic gear, time to join a serious guild

urban portal
#

There is no shot you’ll be able to upgrade lfr gear

#

I don’t think normal tokens exist

topaz field
#

no i doubt that too

sick sentinel
#

it drops components needed to craft lfr eqaul (wishlist)

#

which is then used to craft

topaz field
#

can u currently upgrade hc gear?

#

to 272?

#

if not u have your answer (:

urban portal
#

In 9.2.7 raids will drop tokens that lets you upgrade gear

#

If you missed the memo

sick sentinel
#

i think like, more of a path of progression that leads you to a dead end once your looking for the very best shit like jaithys hammer or whatever from jailer, not saying that should be craftable

urban portal
#

But i don’t think they said if it’ll be normal-heroic-mythic, or you can skip straight from normal to mythic

sick sentinel
#

and its like, well, if i want this mythic item, no other way, but i've done heroic already, i dunno how to say it

urban portal
#

Yes that’ll be how next patch works

brave dragon
urban portal
#

Thought so

wild hemlock
#

im sad i cant call talent tree fridays if alpha actually hits the 14th

#

saw a comment on reddit that a bunch of wow streamers had to sign NDA's for alpha. not sure how accurate that is though

sweet summit
#

🤨

wild hemlock
#

i was getting good at guessing talent tree drops 😦

#

blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, ya know

cobalt seal
#

They 100% gonna get stuff leaked

jagged pier
#

the only thing we know about alpha is the choice got added to the launcher, but its not accessible

#

remeber the DF stuff was on the website hidden for like a month or longer before they annocuned it

wild hemlock
#

so were most likely not getting fat alhpa build on the 14th?

jagged pier
#

could come tomorrow for all we know

#

🤷

wild hemlock
#

sick

jagged pier
#

could come in the next 5 seconds

minor helm
#

I have it I’m just not giving it to you

minor helm
wild hemlock
#

fingers crossed this is the week 🙂

sick sentinel
#

legs, dk left too fast for me to offer them

dawn canyon
#

What Banner uptime

sick sentinel
#

need to exit game to finish log file

lofty widget
#

you can see uptime in details "buff uptime"

sick sentinel
#

it was like, 24.5 % in the one i showed last night which is .... nope

cobalt seal
#

I bet 30.9%

sick sentinel
#

on streets, is triple bosses on a timer, or on HP % gating

lofty widget
#

timer

sick sentinel
#

so it's possible to beat one long before next one comes i guess

lofty widget
#

it is

cobalt seal
sick sentinel
#

way i understand that boss is tank all 3 in the middle, but at like, execut and below HP you take boss 2 to a far wall corner let him die, then take boss 3 in centre

#

have to attack some binds boss 3 i know that gravity bomb thing, i swear that boss is the only wall for me in streets, sometimes final

chilly brook
#

I mean tank the last boss near the orbs tbh, if you kill it in the right spot, the orbs all come out in the same place and it makes picking them up super easy when you have the buff

sick sentinel
#

i would kill bosses at these locations based on what i know (final death location ideally)

lofty widget
#

thats fine... you can take the last boss a bit closer to 2nd boss to make it easier for melee to pick up balls

sick sentinel
#

final boss i usually put a mark on healer or top dps or somebody seems like they are there mentally, try to follow them

cobalt seal
#

you for sure like to put marks

#

when they aren't needed

sick sentinel
#

besides that the only thing that scares me at all in streets is the mario rotating damage sticks

cobalt seal
#

and just confuse players

median tulip
#

The Hyperlight beams that the miniboss just before the first boss uses are unpleasant, but very easy to dodge

sick sentinel
#

do i need to attack the prison takes place on first boss with tyranical, i know your supposed to have him away from the dps that gets hit with it

robust surge
#

nah let the dps kill the cage

#

and the dps that gets targeted with cage is the one that runs away

sick sentinel
#

what about can he been freedom'd out, bop something else, long as it don't rest the boss

sick sentinel
#

has to be pre immuned

#

e.g pre freedom, pre bs, pre turtle etc

serene steppe
#

Do people two phase Muehzala at +20 tyran with pugs?

lofty widget
#

well you can definitely still 1 phase on a 20, i'd argue it's faster and safer to 2 phase tho, depending on comp

#

since it lets dps use cds on muehzala instead of holding for the adds

serene steppe
#

The highest tyran DoS I have done is a +16 so dunno at what point you wanna two phase him

#

Dont wanna send one guy each and nobody kills their add 😄

lofty widget
#

you should be fine to 1 phase

ionic fern
#

KInda impossible to answer.

#

Your PUGs can do 20k DPS each

#

Or 10k DPS each.

lofty widget
#

right

ionic fern
#

So just see how your group is

#

And make a decision.

lofty widget
#

tbh i did a few tests in like 22-24 dos a while ago and theres almost no time-difference between 1 and 2 phase

distant crystal
#

wut

#

how can you spend like an extra minute on another phase and it not cost time

lofty widget
#

well you dont really

distant crystal
lofty widget
#

like i said you get dps cds on the boss instead of adds, which is time saved as well

#

i didnt say they were totally equal in time, 2 phasing is probably 30 or so seconds slower

#

it's just a lot safer, and you rarely need those 30 seconds to actually time the key

serene steppe
#

Cool, thanks for the help!

sick sentinel
#

i fee like this is a bad way to pull

#

no urh/vy for a long time

chrome falcon
#

i am once again begging you to spend less time on MDT and more time on a target dummy

urban portal
#

^

#

this is why i love hold W dungeons

#

so yogi can stop getting distracted

cobalt seal
#

I didn't see him answer

chrome falcon
#

no idea

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
#

You are doing great yogi

toxic pewter
#

You are the actual troll here

dawn canyon
#

just go left man

#

dont think about route think about play

carmine pine
#

Love a good hold W dungeon

minor helm
#

Yogi how do you hate all addons except for the one you can actually play without?

chrome falcon
#

i honestly feel like 90% of people who use MDT don't need to

#

i don't even have it installed anymore

toxic pewter
#

Yogi keep doing what you doing. Don’t let the haters bring you down to their level.

#

Love you brother

#

He is improving he’s up to 17s now

#

When he posted his progress everyone made fun of him for not timing

#

I had his back and congratulated, that’s for sure.

#

People making fun of him for using mdt, a solid and very well made addon used by millions

#

All he did was mention his pathing

#

Paths are very important

#

I respect yogi for working on his pathing

#

It’s good work he’s putting in

#

that don’t matter let the man play his game

#

He is a leader

#

He is a brother of mine, a strong warrior, something you know little to nothing about.

lofty widget
toxic pewter
#

All of a sudden mdt is a shitty addon zzzz LOL shame on all of you

#

yikes

#

Talk about true trolling

ocean yoke
#

you and the mobs had his back keep it up king

chrome falcon
#

LMAO

lofty widget
#

true lol

toxic pewter
#

Yogi is improving. He swore he wouldn’t even do anything higher than a 15

#

Posts he’s doing 17s

#

Immediately shit on by all

#

For shame

#

Then went on to berate me just for congratulating my brother on his success

chrome falcon
#

look man if yogi doesn't want people to comment on his keys

#
  1. he can tell us that himself
toxic pewter
#

Someone even went as far as saying they’re happy my dad is dead

chrome falcon
#

and 2) he probably shouldn't post everything that happens in every run he does

toxic pewter
#

He is doing well for himself

#

I got his back

#

I have friends and respect for my brothers

#

There’s a fine line that’s for sure

#

He is out on the front lines leading groups

#

He has to route accordingly

#

Best way to improve is to run the dungeons

chrome falcon
#

see this is why i unironically think apb should get banned

#

giving people shitty advice as a joke

toxic pewter
#

Telling him to hit a dummy

#

That is bannable in my opinion

sweet summit
#

it is not

toxic pewter
#

Best way to improve is to run the dungeons

sweet summit
#

it is genuinely good advice

toxic pewter
#

Na

sweet summit
#

for someone who struggles with the basic rotation

toxic pewter
#

Best way is keep going

#

Leading groups

#

Best way to tank is to tank

lofty widget
#

you get better at the class by hitting the dummy, you get better at the dungeons by runningthem

toxic pewter
#

And improve

#

No

lofty widget
#

yogi struggles with the class so..

blazing condor
#

tanking is knowing your class and knowing your role

toxic pewter
#

You get better tanking by tanking the content

blazing condor
#

you cant lead a group in a dungeon if you cant play your class

toxic pewter
#

He can play his class

blazing condor
#

maybe in a vacuum

toxic pewter
#

Best way to get better tanking is to actually tank. Not hit some figment dummy

blazing condor
#

we've seen the vods where we give advice

stark sage
#

the main benefit with hitting a dummy is that it lets new players learn at their own pace
if you're brand new to the game and you dont have a mentor, you should not just jump right into dungeons to learn how to tank

blazing condor
#

its pretty apparent

#

that he is doing many mistakes

lofty widget
toxic pewter
#

No one can play optimally

#

this man tanks

lofty widget
#

yikes, ok

toxic pewter
#

He is a leader

blazing condor
#

all i hear rn is cope on why not to actually grind the game

toxic pewter
#

And you’re telling him to hit a dummy and uninstall mdt

ocean yoke
#

working out how to press buttons good to do before hand so youre not sitting in a dungeon wondering how to play your class instead of how you want to play the dungeon

#

different skills

lofty widget
toxic pewter
#

Telling him not to actually play the game

#

This man is a tank. He is our brother. He will tank the dungeons.

blazing condor
#

if you can play your class without looking at the buttons then you can ACTUALLY focus on whatever else is happening = learning how to tank a dungoen properly

urban portal
#

i mean

chrome falcon
#

another evening of having the entire channel derailed by apb baiting everyone

#

good job squad

toxic pewter
#

I am not baiting

#

Best way to get better is to tank

chrome falcon
#

oh i dunno if you're familiar gaga but

#

this is what apb does

toxic pewter
#

I will continue to support yogi

#

He will keep tanking that’s for sure

chrome falcon
#

active detriment to the community

blazing condor
#

its just three/four people every evening who are on opposite sides and getting into meaningless discussions where no one changes their minds

urban portal
#

he should just be queuing random 15s

#

and limit test

toxic pewter
#

I will not see yogi sidelined- he has already sidelined himself at times.

ocean yoke
#

ah i cant wait for the shitshow this channel will be when the talent tree comes

toxic pewter
#

He deserves to tank for groups just like everyone here

sweet summit
#

definitely does not apply anymore

#

📉

blazing condor
#

worst timeline

sweet summit
#

that's fair

chrome falcon
#

don't blame late

#

late actually banned apb

#

for a little while

blazing condor
#

when skyhold needed their mods the most, they vanished

sweet summit
#

blame mwahi for going camping

#

tbh

lofty widget
chrome falcon
#

i dunno he bought us a few hours

toxic pewter
#

We just have differing opinions- you believe hitting dummy is way to improve rotation and get better. I believe that is done actually playing the game

blazing condor
#

both achieve the same thing

#

one does it better

chrome falcon
#

yes apb and i am good at the game and not a total fucking dumbass

blazing condor
#

its just min/maxing

chrome falcon
#

unlike yourself

#

and thus

#

my good opinion > your terrible opinion

sweet summit
toxic pewter
#

Only way to improve as a tank is to actually tank. Apparently you guys disagree

blazing condor
#

no one is ever gonna change their opinion on this so better to just all stfu okayge

toxic pewter
#

Which I encourage yogi to do

sweet summit
#

listen, apb

#

you need to play your spec well

#

before you can tank well

#

those are two distinctly different things

toxic pewter
#

Yogi plays well. He got red mount

sweet summit
#

that is not a very high bar

chrome falcon
#

also, like

toxic pewter
#

Well everyone’s bar is different

chrome falcon
#

gonna be real honest

#

having this much of a conversation about someone who seemingly isn't even in the chat

#

is pretty fucking weird

#

i'm not even trying to talk about yogi

#

i'm just talking about good habits

sweet summit
#

but yea

toxic pewter
#

More often than not the right thing to do is the hardest thing to do

#

Good day gentlemen

blazing condor
#

and scene

#

thanks for today

#

see yall tomorrow with the same shit

pallid quiver
#

"I wonder what's going on in the Prot Chat today, winder if there's something I can help wi-"

I see everyone's entertained. I wish this wasn't happening, but the worst parts of life are the most successful, I suppose.

toxic pewter
#

Not an act, dog

chrome falcon
#

yeah i mean this is the issue i have

#

is that apb's constant derailing

#

is probably putting people off asking actual questions/posting logs

toxic pewter
#

Derailing with opinions you just don’t agree with

#

That’s just how the world works

blazing condor
#

you know that bringing it back up and talking about it doesn't help it either

#

idk what yall think you're gonna get out of arguing the same things every day but i don't think it's working

#

we can just agree to disagree and then not instigate more pointless discussion okayge

lofty widget
#

"this town aint big enough for the two of you"... or something along those lines

toxic pewter
#

I read people telling yogi to uninstall mdt, not worry about routing, and hit a dummy. I spoke my mind- keep working on your pathing and keep tanking to improve. That’s all I did.

waxen orbit
#

Only a 24 but the leech outhealing FC and Aegis is fucking keksquad

blazing condor
#

its called we do a bit of leeching

chrome falcon
#

jesus

#

how much leech do you have

waxen orbit
#

I'm a gracious man

urban portal
#

its just that it has uncapped hps for the big pulls

waxen orbit
pallid quiver
waxen orbit
ocean yoke
#

thats a pretty gamer group comp

urban portal
#

after murlocs pulls get realy small

waxen orbit
#

That's cap

#

Boralus is big pulls

pallid quiver
#

my phone's shit what are we looking at

chrome falcon
#

thwump owning okayge

waxen orbit
#

Just tryna say that if your leech is even 5-6%, you'll still get a lot of survivability value out of it if you just slam your buttons

pallid quiver
#

okay ot downloaded, that's a non-negligible amount of leech

waxen orbit
#

Made up for 461 HPS overall

#

Or 7.8%

dawn canyon
#

gz

waxen orbit
#

Gotta do the Instagram meme page circles

dawn canyon
#

🤝

strong forum
#

Imagine not having over 7% leech smh

waxen orbit
#

True sadge

#

A 40 leech cloak dropped from the Streets

#

But it had mast

#

I let the ret have it

dawn canyon
#

i have 7% leech

#

7.05

pallid quiver
#

Oh, random thought, not prot specific but I know you guys in here the best, I came back to playing WoW a bit after halfway through S3, and I had to take a bit more break time for some fighting game obligations I had, so I'm only at like ~265 ilvl or something and still yet to hit 2k io due to just flat out not touching some dungeons yet. Is it gonna be trivial enough to get 278-ish gear when S4 does it seem like or should I get off my lazy ass with some time I can spare to try and grind my gear a bit up for a bit more of a headstart?

waxen orbit
#

Alright lads 25 Streets, we're getting a full offmeta comp

#

Ret pal, enh sham, feral druid

waxen orbit
#

I like pain

ocean yoke
pallid quiver
waxen orbit
ocean yoke
#

i love it

#

get a mistweaver in there

waxen orbit
#

If I really wanna be a maniac I'll pull the rug out and slap in my 27 Spires

simple crystal
#

hey, i need to clear up a doubt, i'm playing with war prot recently, and i'm using codex and the scale as a trinket, and a guy just told me that codex is the worst trinket! Could you please guide me I have the DOS crystal too

dawn canyon
#

what trinkets do you have

#

they are right

#

codex is dogshit

toxic pewter
sweet summit
#

double on use is kinda cringe but it can work and will net better results than running codex

#

ideally you'd use phial or sack instead of a 2nd on use

waxen orbit
#

I have both Phial and Sack but I find the haste of Technique is solid DPS replacement for the other two, plus the haste is big defensively

simple crystal
#

i have IDK,Crystal,scale and codex

muted nexus
#

does viscera have trash scaling 270+?

dawn canyon
sweet summit
#

ya vicera kinda poopy

toxic pewter
#

Ya soleah str and haste nice

sweet summit
#

very mediocre trinket

muted nexus
#

bummer D:

simple crystal
#

IQD*

dawn canyon
#

iqd not poggers but not the worst

muted nexus
#

soleahs continues to be a myth for me

sweet summit
#

it'd run opc+scale in this case, Jaiminho

simple crystal
#

OPC?

muted nexus
#

ornate power crystal

simple crystal
#

ok

muted nexus
#

derp, overwhelming

sweet summit
#

overwhelming power crystal, yeah

simple crystal
#

what would be the 2 biss that I can farm in DG?

#

soleahs+scale?

toxic pewter
#

Scale and soleah is good for me

simple crystal
#

ok

#

thnx

toxic pewter
#

Many like phial

sweet summit
#

scale is the best defensive trinket you can get from dungeons, so that might be a perma run if you need it

#

other than that you can run soleah from gambit, sack from streets or phial from plaguefall

#

ideally you do mythic the nine and get aegis (it is very very op defensively)

stone spoke
#

Next season when de other side doesn't exist you'll never miss scale, aegis will be back

sweet summit
dawn canyon
#

aegis yuge

toxic pewter
#

What trinkets are expected to be best season 4

#

Aegis and ows right

sweet summit
#

ows if you can maintain stacks > elegy > ows if you can't maintain stacks

toxic pewter
#

I see

sweet summit
#

obv aegis bis defensively

toxic pewter
#

How long out of combat does ows drop off

sweet summit
#

matrix will still be really good

#

15 sec iirc

toxic pewter
#

Hmmm

#

Soleah could even still be good I suppose

muted nexus
#

are they updating any loot tables for the legacy dungeons revamped in s4?

sweet summit
#

afaik we don't know

toxic pewter
#

Then again mythic elegy better than soleah even

sweet summit
#

not always

toxic pewter
#

I see

dawn canyon
muted nexus
stone spoke
#

I'd assume they would update the loot tables or youd run a dungeon for no loot

toxic pewter
#

Yah are there any good trinkets from the dungeons on anyones radar realistically

muted nexus
#

not from the revised content so far, no

#

it's all stat stick trash

dawn canyon
#

theres a numerically worse mini sigil in wod

toxic pewter
#

I see

muted nexus
#

i pray they don't hamstring the loot tables to that junk sadga

sick sentinel
#

2 278 rewards, so, blade kit and a 278 i already have, naturally

simple crystal
#

I'm having trouble dealing damage with war tank! could you please help me

sweet summit
#

press revenge!

simple crystal
#

ok!

sweet summit
#

no but for real, if you have logs we will happily look through and give more concrete answers

#

but generally it's just "press buttons, press revenge"

scenic mural
#

So is next week really raging Explosive?

dawn canyon
#

yes

sick sentinel
#

not that scary TBH

#

rogue, hunter druid

#

interupt

dawn canyon
#

Explosive depends on group

mighty valley
#

explosive isn't bad just kind of tiresome

toxic pewter
#

Yeah explosive suks

sick sentinel
#

explosive only sucks when someone like the whole team doesn't kill em

dawn canyon
#

healer job

sick sentinel
#

1-2 smites / equivilant

dawn canyon
#

Sw:p

cobalt seal
#

that was popcorn

#

it was like a broken record

#

no matter what people told

#

always the same answer

#

Classic troll job

dawn canyon
#

you remember when we won yesterday and he "left"

cobalt seal
#

you told me to not use his family

#

I blame you

toxic pewter
#

I never said I’d leave for a long time

#

Just needed a break for the night

#

A man can only take so much

cobalt seal
#

humanity would be better

#

off

toxic pewter
#

I think you need to take a breath

mighty valley
#

what's going on in your life to make you so aggro crom

toxic pewter
#

All will be ok Cro

zenith vine
#

Jeez what are you guys doing in here

toxic pewter
#

They think I’m a troll

#

But unfortunately cro has become that which he hates most

cobalt seal
#

think know*

toxic pewter
#

I guess I will be hitting the old dusty trail again

#

You win cromation

#

I may not agree with what you say- but I will give my life for your right to say it. Good day.

cobalt seal
#

@dawn canyon see

toxic pewter
#

That u cromation

#

That u

cobalt seal
#

Oh ty

#

😽

dawn canyon
cobalt seal
toxic pewter
dawn canyon
#

for example his horrid taste in gifs

toxic pewter
#

That me when thinking about how disappointed I am in cromation. He fought so valiantly against the trolls… only to become the troll himself.

#

“I must fight fire with fire” he thinks

dawn canyon
#

ok nvm go ham with the dad shit idc

toxic pewter
#

Little does he know…

dawn canyon
#

i wont help but u slay queen

toxic pewter
#

That is what trolls do

cobalt seal
#

I literally never told anyone that I wasn't a troll

dawn canyon
#

(hes a draenai iirc)

cobalt seal
#

you seem to say that alot

toxic pewter
#

I am not a troll. I am a simple man

cobalt seal
#

so you in the logic of "to see one you have to be one"

#

you admitting you are a troll

urban portal
#

^

toxic pewter
#

No you admitted it

#

I am in fact not a troll. I get things wrong here and there but I am only human.

cobalt seal
scenic mural
cobalt seal
#

how do you know?

toxic pewter
#

Because it’s what you are doing.. a self proclaimed troll

dawn canyon
#

the yogster can make anything scary

scenic mural
#

exactly lol

cobalt seal
toxic pewter
cobalt seal
#

you literally did a great job earlier vs 5 people

#

that was worthy of popcorn

sick sentinel
#

not wrong i put sanguine on +18 echelon

toxic pewter
#

I was just defending yogi in his absence. Nothing more nothing less

sick sentinel
#

the wo ended early and somone got butt aggro on the gargoyl

toxic pewter
#

I will even defend you cromation